Alex Clark Explains How Make America Healthy Again Helped Trump Win the Popular Vote and What Conservatives Must Do Next

[00:00] Alex, welcome. How are you?

[00:01] >> I'm so good. And I have a tirade to

[00:04] unleash.

[00:05] >> Oh boy.

[00:06] >> I am so excited to talk about Maja today

[00:09] and just some crazy wins and also some

[00:11] really wild stuff that's down the

[00:13] pipeline that we should be concerned

[00:14] about. But I have a lot to say. So I

[00:16] literally wrote out last night. I stayed

[00:17] up all my notes because I was like, I

[00:20] have to be like on point. Make sure I

[00:21] remember everything I want to say.

[00:23] >> So I have to interrupt you first. Okay.

[00:24] Alex Clark is one of our most amazing

[00:28] team members.

[00:30] She has been with Turning Point USA for

[00:32] seven years. Six. Six years. Alex was a

[00:36] morning radio host in Indiana. Tyler

[00:38] Boyer found you on Twitter, I believe.

[00:42] Right.

[00:42] >> Um social media. It's a little bit of a

[00:44] mixed story. So, I came to YWS in 2018

[00:49] as an attendee.

[00:49] >> Our Young Women's Leadership Summit. So,

[00:51] when I say that our Young Women's

[00:52] Leadership Summit develops leaders, this

[00:54] is what we're talking about, right?

[00:55] >> Yeah. So, I just came. I didn't know

[00:57] anybody. I literally went by myself and

[00:59] then Turning Point had followed me on

[01:02] Instagram after that. And so Tyler's

[01:04] marketing team DM'd me and were like,

[01:07] "Hey, we'd love to work with you just as

[01:09] an ambassador." And I said, "Actually,

[01:11] I'd like to work for you and I have a

[01:13] show idea." So then that kind of uh got

[01:15] the ball rolling and Tyler was like,

[01:16] "Okay." Cuz Turning Point had never done

[01:18] a show.

[01:19] >> We had never done a show.

[01:20] >> So I kind of pitched that idea and that

[01:21] was the very first show that Turning

[01:22] Point had ever done. I had created this

[01:24] pop culture show called Popitics and

[01:27] that was the first thing and so yeah at

[01:28] the time Tyler was overseeing

[01:30] >> it was pop culture met politics at the

[01:32] time right. Yep.

[01:33] >> And the pop culture without the

[01:35] propaganda.

[01:36] >> That's right.

[01:36] >> That was what it was right.

[01:37] >> Yeah. It was like E-News and Fox News if

[01:38] they had a baby and and like this was it

[01:40] had never been done. It was like really

[01:42] crucial and this show got all these

[01:44] young women through the pandemic. I

[01:46] mean, I was using celebrity

[01:47] entertainment stories to call out BLM

[01:50] and all these things. And it was like a

[01:51] very digestible way for a young girl

[01:53] scrolling on social media to hear

[01:55] conservative ideas.

[01:56] >> And so, Alex made that super popular.

[01:58] And then, Alex, you started to talk more

[02:00] and more about health and wellness. This

[02:03] is before the term maha ever existed.

[02:05] You were maha before maha. And so walk

[02:08] us through that whole journey towards

[02:10] now just to kind of complete the story,

[02:12] Alex is without a doubt one of the most

[02:14] influential voices for young women in

[02:16] America and without a doubt in the whole

[02:19] wellness health space. So how did you go

[02:21] from pop culture without the propaganda

[02:23] to raw milk? So, one I want to say that

[02:26] Turning Point USA and Charlie were one

[02:27] of the first really big supporters of

[02:30] Maja even um because during the pandemic

[02:32] I wasn't required to get the vaccine and

[02:36] I had never

[02:37] >> I hope not cuz I worked there too.

[02:38] >> Well, that's what I'm saying, right? So,

[02:39] like Charlie immediately was like we're

[02:41] not requiring our employees to have to

[02:42] get this, of course. And so, I had never

[02:44] thought of anything in regards to big

[02:47] pharma before. I had actually never even

[02:48] heard that term. Like I grew up in the

[02:50] most conventional ultrarocessed food

[02:52] household ever, far from the raw milk

[02:55] lands of California and Indiana. Like so

[02:58] I didn't know any organic food stuff.

[03:00] And um so I never really cared about it.

[03:02] And then when the pandemic happened and

[03:04] they were mandating the vaccine, I was

[03:06] so gravely disturbed. I mean I was

[03:08] unsettled in my spirit. I I just

[03:10] immediately called it as demonic. It it

[03:12] was demonic to tell people if you don't

[03:13] get this vaccine, you're not going to be

[03:15] allowed to participate in public life

[03:17] and public space. you're not going to be

[03:19] allowed in different businesses. You

[03:20] might you might have to lose your job.

[03:21] Um, and so I went down the rabbit hole

[03:23] and I started reading everything I could

[03:25] about Monsanto and corruption and the

[03:27] American Heart Association and all these

[03:29] different things. And I wanted to talk

[03:31] about it with my audience. So, I had

[03:33] transitioned from that pop culture show

[03:35] to doing a long form uh podcast where I

[03:38] was interviewing people just anyone and

[03:40] everyone that had an interesting story

[03:42] or had an expertise that was

[03:43] counterultural. That was my first

[03:44] podcast with Turning Point. And I

[03:46] started kind of sneakily pivoting to

[03:49] doing mostly health and wellness

[03:50] interviews on that show. And then um

[03:52] February of 2024 last year, I talked to

[03:56] Turning Point and I said, "Listen, I

[03:58] think I want to rebrand the entire show.

[04:00] I think the whole future of conservatism

[04:03] and the Republican party with women is

[04:05] health and wellness." And it was kind of

[04:06] like deer in the headlights. Like

[04:08] everybody was like, "What are you

[04:09] talking about?"

[04:10] >> I bought into it for the record.

[04:11] >> Charlie bought into it. So char like

[04:13] there was definitely some people that

[04:14] were like I don't know Alex and Charlie

[04:16] first of all when I brought up I want to

[04:18] do a pop culture show from a

[04:19] conservative perspective. Charlie said

[04:21] let's do it. There was no hesitation

[04:23] when I said I want to do a health and

[04:24] wellness show and focus on this. Charlie

[04:26] said absolutely. Actually Charlie

[04:28] interrupt me. I didn't even finish my

[04:29] sentence talking about culture

[04:30] apothecary and he was like I don't

[04:32] understand the question. Yes. So like it

[04:34] it was amazing to have that support and

[04:36] you know Charlie just said look

[04:38] everything that you have brought to

[04:39] turning point from politics to now with

[04:41] culture apothecary everything that you

[04:42] said we need to do to focus on young

[04:44] women has been right so far so we trust

[04:47] you you have full creative freedom which

[04:49] not a lot of other conservative media

[04:51] companies can say I will say that their

[04:53] talent doesn't get creative freedom like

[04:55] I have been given which has been amazing

[04:57] but um so I said February 2024 let's

[05:00] focus on health at YWS our young women's

[05:02] leadership summit In June of 2024, I

[05:05] said on that stage, "This is the future.

[05:06] If we want to win uh female voters, this

[05:08] is the stuff that we need to be talking

[05:10] about. It is so important to to

[05:12] undecided female voters." Two months

[05:14] later, RFK comes out, Glendel, Arizona,

[05:16] endorses President Trump and talks about

[05:19] we're going to make America healthy

[05:20] again. And I was front row. First of

[05:23] all, Charlie was so generous and had

[05:25] hooked it up so that I could get to meet

[05:27] President Trump backstage, which is if

[05:28] you've ever met him, it's like two

[05:30] seconds. you know, you're like, I have

[05:31] to what is the one thing I'm going to

[05:32] say to to impress him or or have

[05:34] something to say? And I said, "Mr.

[05:36] President, please keep talking about

[05:37] food and pharma. This is the biggest

[05:39] issue with undecided female voters."

[05:40] That's what I said. And he said, "You're

[05:42] going to be very excited." And and I was

[05:45] like, "What does that mean?" And uh so

[05:48] then I w he walks out with RFK on stage

[05:51] and I'm not kidding you. I'm front row

[05:54] and my jaw drops. I mean, it was like my

[05:56] reaction to Taylor Swift of the Aerys

[05:57] tour. I'm jumping up and down. My fist

[05:59] is pumping. Bricksuit, if you follow him

[06:02] on X, Bricksuit has a video of me like

[06:04] you I'm just screaming the loudest I've

[06:06] ever screamed. And President Trump looks

[06:08] just at me and he points and he gives

[06:10] like a wink and a thumbs up like I told

[06:11] you you were going to be happy. So it

[06:13] was um it was just so amazing. And so

[06:15] that happened and I had planned without

[06:19] knowing that RFK was going to partner

[06:20] with Trump. I had no idea that was going

[06:22] to happen, right? I didn't know that

[06:23] Maha was going to be a thing. I just

[06:25] knew that I could see in my show

[06:27] downloads when I talked about these

[06:29] issues that my downloads were going

[06:31] crazy. I was like, "Oh, this is

[06:32] resonating with women that these

[06:34] topics." And so, um, I wanted to keep at

[06:37] it. And Maha goes off. I get invited to

[06:40] testify at the Senate with RFK in

[06:42] September. And the show Culture

[06:45] Apothecary, I had just rebranded like

[06:47] two weeks prior. The show explodes. So

[06:49] much so that Charlie said to my team,

[06:52] "These there's no way these numbers are

[06:53] right. I need you to run them again. And

[06:55] my team said, Charlie, we've ran them

[06:56] seven times.

[06:58] >> True.

[06:58] >> So the the show just like goes crazy. It

[07:01] was the exact like cultural zeitgeist

[07:03] that we needed to to like really appeal

[07:06] to people because all of the sudden it

[07:07] was like, whoa, conservatives are

[07:09] talking about health and wellness. Well,

[07:10] who's doing that that's openly

[07:11] conservative? And it was like me.

[07:14] So, um, then a lot of people discovered

[07:16] me and yeah, it's just been incredible.

[07:19] We have over 40 million downloads on the

[07:22] show in counting. Um, average episodes

[07:25] are getting like uh well I don't know

[07:28] this is going to be broadcast so I don't

[07:29] know if I'll go that I'll say all that

[07:31] but uh

[07:31] >> your competitors are listening.

[07:32] >> Yeah, I don't want to say all that. I

[07:33] I'll keep that to the chest but yeah

[07:35] over 40 million downloads in counting

[07:36] and just

[07:37] >> that's a big number everybody. It's big.

[07:38] >> Just this last month uh between my

[07:41] Instagram and the show's Instagram we

[07:43] have over 40 million views on our

[07:45] content. So just yeah really wild stuff.

[07:48] Um, and it's it's just been really

[07:51] exciting.

[07:51] >> Well, and you've been an amazing

[07:52] warrior, Alex, and you you've always

[07:54] been right. You know why Alex's right?

[07:55] She listens to her audience. She finds

[07:57] things that the media is ignoring, and

[07:59] then she goes all in on them, and they

[08:00] seem as if they're like niche issues. I

[08:02] believe that Maha, Make America Healthy

[08:04] Again, was one of the reasons why Donald

[08:07] Trump won the popular vote and one of

[08:09] the reasons why he ran the table in all

[08:11] seven swing states.

[08:12] >> Okay. It absolutely is. It absolutely

[08:14] is. And so, I have so much to say about

[08:15] this. When we were at the Young Women's

[08:18] Leadership Summit this past June, I had

[08:23] this has never this has actually never

[08:24] happened. I mean, I've been with Turning

[08:26] Point for six years. I've never had

[08:28] women come up to me at that conference

[08:30] for Turning Point USA, very openly

[08:32] conservative, and say, um, I would have

[08:36] never come to a conservative event. This

[08:38] is my very first time, but I'm here for

[08:40] MA. like they came and then they were

[08:43] like I'm I don't I'm scared to like

[08:45] totally say it yet but I think I'm

[08:46] becoming conservative and and I was like

[08:49] that's amazing like you're so welcome

[08:51] here and so the theme that I had chosen

[08:53] for YWLs this year was welcome home I

[08:55] said I wanted it to be hospitality

[08:57] because we had gained millions of new

[09:00] female voters to the GOP to the

[09:02] conservative movement and so what is so

[09:03] crucial to understand is that we are not

[09:06] in a committed relationship with these

[09:08] women yet okay we are in the talking

[09:10] stage They are assessing the situation.

[09:12] Jenz knows what I mean. We are in the

[09:14] talking stage. We're not official and

[09:16] they are trying to decide if they want

[09:18] to be official with us. And so if the

[09:20] GOP is serious about winning midterms

[09:22] and just elections here on out, we

[09:26] cannot forget these maha moms and these

[09:28] women that really deeply care about this

[09:31] >> deeply.

[09:32] >> And and keep and I want you to keep

[09:34] going on this, Alex. I was just

[09:35] affirming what you were saying that I

[09:37] totally and completely agree. And so

[09:40] let's build this out a little bit

[09:41] further. And I want to get into all your

[09:42] big wins. For someone that's in the

[09:44] audience listening, they're like, "What?

[09:45] What? What? What do you mean maha?"

[09:46] Like, I mean, I'm Maha. I put olive oil

[09:49] on my salad. Like, you know, I'm maha.

[09:52] Like, I drink Diet Coke. What is this

[09:54] thing? Try to because it there's a

[09:56] spectrum, right? It goes all the way

[09:58] from cold plunges to 72-hour fasting to

[10:02] supplementation to, you know, keto or

[10:05] even just wanting to be healthy. The way

[10:07] I view it, then I want your view. Maha

[10:09] is we were lied to during COVID. We're

[10:12] super sick and we want to be healthy and

[10:14] we're we're willing to entertain things

[10:16] that we were told false prior. That's

[10:17] what I think maha is. What would you say

[10:19] it is?

[10:20] >> Yeah, you're you're right. Um and I can

[10:22] speak to this from a millennial

[10:23] perspective. Charlie and I are basically

[10:24] the same. We're the exact same age. We

[10:26] graduated high school the same year.

[10:27] We're a couple months apart. So for

[10:29] millennials especially, just to give you

[10:31] a good idea, we grew up the vaccine

[10:35] schedule starts to explode. But it's

[10:36] even worse now. Some states you have to

[10:38] have over 90 vaccines to be able to

[10:39] attend public school between 0 and 18

[10:41] years old. That's insane. Um, but the

[10:43] vaccine schedule starts to explode. GMOs

[10:45] are introduced to our food system. The

[10:47] the food pyramid that we were given in

[10:49] public school curriculums was completely

[10:50] bought and paid for by industry. So, it

[10:52] wasn't actually based on any real health

[10:54] guidelines. It was just who paid to have

[10:55] a bigger slice of the pyramid. So, we're

[10:57] going to promote that to kids. And then

[10:59] um we also were told you know fat is bad

[11:01] for you, red meat is bad, butter is bad,

[11:03] we need to introduce seed oils,

[11:05] ultrarocessed food is good, it's more

[11:06] convenient. Um we were all put on birth

[11:10] control. The girls in my generation were

[11:12] all told as a catch-all band-aid that we

[11:14] should all be put on hormonal birth

[11:15] control for absolutely no reason. Oh,

[11:17] you get cramps, you should be on birth

[11:18] control. You have a pimple, you should

[11:20] be on birth control. You just don't know

[11:22] how to track your cycle. Well, you're

[11:23] too stupid to learn that. We'll just go

[11:25] ahead and put you on birth control. and

[11:26] we were not given informed consent about

[11:29] how that can totally wreck our our

[11:32] bodies. Um, you know, you have a 230%

[11:34] plus increase of developing an

[11:36] autoimmune disease, which I now have.

[11:38] Uh, if you're on it for nine plus years,

[11:40] um, you uh have a high like quadruple

[11:43] risk of increased anxiety, depression,

[11:45] being on the pill, um, which of course

[11:47] now you have so many women um, on

[11:50] anti-depressants in America, which is so

[11:53] sad. Um, and then the biggest problem is

[11:56] that it d it it it hides your um your

[12:00] symptoms that there's something going on

[12:02] hormonally, right? So So this is a big

[12:05] thing. We're seeing infertility rising

[12:06] 1% every year. When you were on the pill

[12:09] for like a decade, you could have signs

[12:11] of endometriosis, polycystic ovarian

[12:14] syndrome, different things that if