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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeJD Vance Warns Gen Z About Becoming Paupers in Their Own Country at High Point University
JD Vance delivers a direct message to young voters at High Point University in North Carolina, addressing housing costs, illegal immigration, and the breakdown of the American dream. Fresh off a four-hour Joe Rogan podcast appearance, Vance contrasts Kamala Harris's lack of vision with Donald Trump's plans to restore middle-class prosperity. He warns that this generation faces unprecedented challenges, soaring home prices, wage stagnation, and the threat of being drafted into World War III, all stemming from failed leadership. Vance argues that young Americans should be angry about becoming the first generation less prosperous than their parents, and outlines specific policy solutions on energy, immigration, tariffs, and college debt that could reverse decades of damage.
A Message to the First Generation Facing Decline
JD Vance opened his remarks at High Point University with a stark warning for the room full of college students: they should be angry. Not angry in an unfocused way, but specifically upset about being the first generation in American history unlikely to own homes, earn family-supporting wages, or accumulate wealth rather than debt. Speaking alongside Charlie Kirk at a Turning Point USA event, Vance argued that this dire situation wasn't inevitable—it was the result of deliberate policy choices made by a failed generation of political leadership.
The event came on a whirlwind day for Vance, who had just completed a nearly four-hour interview with Joe Rogan that was set to drop the same afternoon. Despite visiting three states in one day and maintaining a grueling campaign schedule, Vance took time to engage directly with students at High Point, a university in North Carolina—a state he noted has over 120 colleges and universities filled with Gen Z voters who will determine the election outcome.
Kamala Harris: An Empty Vessel for Failed Ideas
Vance drew a sharp contrast between Kamala Harris and even political opponents he disagreed with, like Barack Obama. While he had many policy disagreements with Obama, Vance acknowledged that Obama at least had genuine beliefs about how to govern America. Harris, he argued, does not. She represents an empty vessel for whatever prevailing ideas dominate Washington DC, and those ideas are particularly harmful to young people.
When asked about her policy proposals, Harris consistently deflects to talking about her middle-class upbringing rather than offering specific solutions. Vance pointed out that he too grew up in a working-class family, but that personal biography isn't a substitute for actual policy. The three prevailing Washington ideas that Harris embodies are especially damaging to young Americans: using them as "cannon fodder for foreign military misadventures," allowing millions of illegal immigrants to undercut their wages and compete for jobs, and pursuing policies that have driven housing prices up 45% in North Carolina alone.
The Housing Crisis and Illegal Immigration Connection
When student Rowan asked about the housing crisis and strict zoning regulations, Vance outlined a comprehensive approach to making homeownership affordable again. The solution involves multiple components: reducing energy costs through drilling, cutting federal regulations that make construction expensive, and fundamentally addressing illegal immigration.
Vance explained that no matter how many homes America builds, if the country continues allowing unlimited illegal immigration, those immigrants will occupy houses that should go to American citizens. This isn't theoretical—it's visible at both national and local levels. Where illegal immigration surges, housing prices spike. He contrasted this reality-based approach with Harris's proposal to give $25,000 to home buyers, which he argued would simply increase housing prices by $25,000 without increasing supply.
The Harris plan has an even more troubling detail: it would extend that $25,000 not just to American citizens but also to people in the country illegally. Meanwhile, her policies ensure that housing costs would rise by $35,000 to $50,000, meaning Americans would still lose even with the government check. Trump's approach focuses on actually lowering costs rather than covering them up with handouts.
Energy Policy as Economic Foundation
Vance repeatedly emphasized that energy costs drive virtually every other cost in the economy. When diesel fuel increases 45%, groceries delivered by trucks become more expensive. When gasoline costs more, lumber delivered to construction sites becomes pricier, making houses more expensive. The solution is straightforward: "drill baby drill."
This means reducing regulations on the energy sector, building pipelines to transport energy efficiently, and unleashing America's natural resources. The benefits are twofold: creating good-paying jobs in the energy sector while simultaneously making everything cheaper for consumers. Whether buying groceries, clothes, or homes, everything becomes more affordable when energy is abundant and cheap. This represents a core principle of Trump's economic policy that Harris fundamentally opposes.
Tariffs, Tax Policy, and Rebuilding American Manufacturing
When student Julia asked how the Trump administration would improve the economy for twenty-year-olds, Vance started with a joke about growing up in a working-class family before diving into specifics. The current American tax code rewards overseas investment while penalizing domestic investment, which means fewer factories and businesses built in America, less technological innovation, and lower wages for workers.
From the 1950s through the 1970s, American workers received consistent pay increases year after year. From 1980 onward, that stopped—with one four-year exception: 2017 to 2020, when Donald Trump was president. Trump made it easier to build in America and harder to build overseas, which is why workers finally saw real wage growth again.
Vance explained how tariffs actually work, countering the Harris campaign's claim that they're simply a tax. When an American business decides whether to build in China or America, China offers $3-per-day slave labor while America requires middle-class wages. Vance argued this is good because he wants Americans to earn good wages, but it requires penalizing companies that choose Chinese slave labor. A tariff is that penalty—when companies try bringing Chinese-made goods back into America, they pay a tariff. This protects middle-class American jobs and encourages domestic investment.
The Threat of World War III and the Draft
When student Brett asked about potential war with China and the possibility of a draft, Vance gave perhaps his most sobering answer of the event. He stated clearly that he doesn't believe it's an exaggeration to say America is sleepwalking toward World War III—a war that could require drafting people in that very room.
Looking at history, Vance noted that Russia invaded sovereign nations under George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Biden-Harris, but not during Trump's four years. The reason wasn't just strength but also smart diplomacy. Trump was willing to engage with adversaries, even bad people, because effective diplomacy requires talking to everyone, not just allies. Despite media attacks, Trump sat down with North Korea's leader after North Korea threatened Hawaii with an ICBM in early 2017. After that meeting, the threats stopped completely.
Prevention is the best way to stop a war. In the South China Sea, that means making a Chinese invasion of Taiwan as costly as possible by ensuring Taiwan has enough weapons to defend itself. Unfortunately, Harris's policy of sending massive resources to Ukraine has depleted what's available for Taiwan, actually making Chinese invasion more likely. By defending Ukraine the way the administration has, they've made war with China more probable. Terrible world conflicts almost always come from incompetent leadership rather than evil leadership—people who don't think through second and third-order consequences.
Campus Safety and the Gang Takeover of American Communities
When Paige, a graduating senior considering moving to New York City, asked about safety for young women given illegal immigration levels, Vance gave blunt advice: don't move to New York City until after the election. He urged her to vote in North Carolina first, explaining that he'd be worried about moving to one-party states and cities where violent crime is moving in the wrong direction, largely due to massive illegal immigration.
While most illegal immigrants aren't criminals, enough are that criminal behavior has increased significantly. Vance recounted being asked by a reporter if Republicans were overstating gang activity since "only a handful of apartment complexes" had been taken over by criminal gangs. His response: are you hearing yourself? He doesn't want Paige or any American moving into a complex taken over by gangs while journalists minimize it as "only a handful."
The solution requires three major policy changes that Harris implemented and Trump will reverse. First, Harris dramatically cut deportations—if people know they'll never be deported, they keep coming illegally. Second, finish the border wall. Vance has visited the border more than "border czar" Harris, and at certain locations you can see border wall slabs lying in the dirt, rusting, because she stopped construction. Border patrol confirms that where the wall was built, illegal immigration dropped massively. Third, end catch-and-release. When someone claims asylum, Trump's policy kept them in Mexico during adjudication while Harris lets them roam America freely for 10 to 15 years.
The Coalition Realignment: From Cheneys to Tulsi and RFK
Charlie Kirk highlighted the remarkable political realignment occurring around the Trump campaign. On Harris's side stand warmongers who sent young Americans to unnecessary no-win wars: Liz Cheney, John Bolton, Leon Panetta. On Trump's side is what Vance called an "Avengers team": Vivek Ramaswamy, Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.—two people who ran for president as Democrats, a former co-chair of the Democratic Party, and the most successful entrepreneur of the modern era.
Vance wished he could travel back to 2003, when he enlisted in the Marine Corps as an 18-year-old high school senior, and warn his younger self: when a Cheney controls American foreign policy, bad things happen. He didn't know then that Cheney-led policy would lead to innocent deaths and foreign policy disasters. Today's young voters do know this, so they should vote accordingly—not rewarding the party of Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, and Kamala Harris, but supporting Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, and Donald Trump.
The trade of Liz Cheney for Tulsi Gabbard is one Vance celebrates enthusiastically. Tulsi essentially ended Harris's 2020 presidential campaign by pointing out that Harris built her career throwing innocent people in prison. Now Tulsi, a lifelong Democrat, supports Trump and has become a Republican. Bobby Kennedy, also a lifelong Democrat, now backs Trump. What changed? The Republican Party became the party of common sense: stopping unlimited illegal immigration, having schools that educate rather than indoctrinate, pursuing diplomacy and American strength rather than chaos and war. Americans don't have to agree on every issue, but if they think present-day America is too crazy and weird, they can throw the bums out and give the country the change it needs.
College Debt, University Accountability, and Price Transparency
Junior student Grant asked about keeping college loan interest rates low so students don't spend years in debt paying double or triple the original loan amount. Vance pointed out an often-overlooked fact: student debt in America has reached approximately $1.7 trillion, while university endowments and foundations have also collected about $1.7 trillion in wealth. The very universities putting students into lifetime debt servitude are overcharging them while not being honest about what students actually get from their education.
Two major changes are needed. First, real price transparency and honest disclosure about degree benefits. When Vance went to college, he had no idea what he was getting into. Students should know exactly what they're getting from each degree program, which means colleges must be more honest. Second, end lifetime debt servitude. Vance contrasted this with Harris's approach of shifting debt from one citizen group to another—having plumbers and electricians pay for college students' debt. That's irrational and unfair because plumbers and electricians aren't at fault for the college debt crisis; university administrators are.
The solution: college debt should not follow graduates for life. If someone accumulates significant debt and faces financial difficulty, colleges shouldn't be able to collect indefinitely, sometimes even garnishing wages before paychecks arrive. America has created a generation of debt servants, and that must change. Colleges must take accountability—not fellow citizens—for the debt crisis they created.
Faith, Ethics, and Listening to Ordinary People
Hayes, vice president of the campus Turning Point USA chapter and a political science major, asked how Vance's faith and ethics have been tested as a politician, and what advice he had for students entering the workforce. Vance emphasized that nice people can also be tough—kindness doesn't mean weakness. He encouraged students to be kind, virtuous, and generous in spirit, but always maintain toughness. Both qualities can coexist and both are useful.
His first major test came early in his Senate term during the East Palestine, Ohio train derailment. After the crash, authorities set off what amounted to a chemical bomb in this small town. Vance visited repeatedly over subsequent months, and poorer residents with less influence kept telling him things were wrong, particularly that creeks were contaminated despite official assurances of safety. He faced pressure to ignore them, to dismiss them as crazy people who didn't know what they were talking about.
But an inner voice told him this was his job: listening to people, especially the downtrodden that nobody else hears. He had his team drive him to a creek, stuck a stick in the water, and found an oil sheen—clearly not safe. He realized that always listening to media or people with fancy credentials is wrong. Sometimes those credentials are used to silence fellow citizens. Future leaders must listen to everyone, even when media or others say they shouldn't.
What helped Vance in that moment was thinking about his grandmother who raised him. She would never have dismissed a poor person from East Palestine saying the water wasn't safe. She would have listened. That's the most important leadership lesson: listen to people, even when they might be wrong, because you have to listen first. Biden calling half of America garbage for supporting Trump, and Harris and her running mate calling Trump supporters Nazis and fascists, is fundamentally about silencing people. Leaders must listen to everyone they serve, regardless of how they vote.
Government Spending, the Deficit, and Elon Musk's DOGE
Trinity, a freshman, asked about sticking to a budget given increased living costs and mounting national debt. Vance explained that these problems connect directly: when government spends more than it collects, it prints money, which shows up as inflation. The average North Carolina family is about $29,000 poorer because of Harris's inflation. They didn't see it in an IRS bill but in groceries, rent, and car payments. This inflation is a hidden tax from government overspending.
Cutting spending requires targeting specific areas. Illegal immigration costs America between $150 billion and $500 billion annually in housing, welfare, Social Security fraud, and Medicare fraud. Addressing immigration would produce massive savings. America is also still spending money from the COVID era unnecessarily. The pandemic is over—thank God—and the country should never return to those Draconian measures, but more importantly, should stop spending like it did during COVID. These two changes alone would significantly lower costs and put long-term budgets on sustainable paths.
This issue affects young people more than Vance's generation because they'll be paying off current debt far longer than current politicians. When Harris proposes new spending, students should ask if it's worth the lifetime of debt payments. Almost always, the answer is no. Vote for fiscal sanity by supporting Donald Trump.
Trump has created DOGE—the Department of Government Efficiency—to be run by Elon Musk. While the name is playful, Musk has a proven track record of cutting waste. The current budgeting process is absurd: Congress waits until the government nearly runs out of money, then passes a bill spending the same as last year plus inflation. It's like a household getting to credit card delinquency, then opening another card to avoid dealing with it for another year. Eventually the credit runs out.
Musk's approach is simple: bring private sector perspective to actually examine the budget line by line, asking how much is being spent on each program and how much should be spent. This basic questioning will likely find hundreds of billions, maybe trillions, in savings. This isn't money politicians decided to spend; it's money spent because they kicked the can down the road. DOGE will rationalize the federal budget for the first time in decades.
The Broken Social Contract and Generational Theft
Charlie Kirk framed the closing argument around an unrecognized breakdown in the social contract. Politics exists to ensure that children have better lives than their parents—that's the fundamental purpose. But generational theft has occurred. Vance, as the youngest vice presidential candidate in roughly 150 years and the first millennial on a major party ticket, can see what this generation experiences. They face challenges nobody has lived through before. When parents say "it was hard when we were younger," they faced fundamentally different circumstances.
The likelihood of renting rather than owning has increased dramatically for this generation. If current trends continue, this will be the first generation less prosperous than their parents—a reversal of American history.
Vance's closing argument was direct: young people should be pissed off. They're the first American generation unlikely to own homes, unlikely to earn family-supporting wages, and more likely to accumulate debt than wealth. They should be angry because this came from failed leadership. Older generations created an economy where young people incur debt rather than wealth, a college debt crisis that follows them for life, an economy where wages don't support families, and a housing market where buying homes is nearly impossible. This was a policy choice.
Different policy choices are possible, but only if young people get angry about their situation and vote for change. Donald Trump has been predicting since the 1980s and 1990s that America's path would create a generation of paupers in their own country. He was right. During his four years as president, he undid decades of damage, but one term isn't enough to fix everything. He needs another four years to undo more damage from career politicians, but he cannot do it without young people's help.
The choice is clear: more of the same broken promises, sloganeering politicians, and failed bureaucrats, or real change under Trump's leadership. Young people especially cannot reward those who want to make them paupers in their own country. Vance wants them to be owners of America, because the country will be stronger when that's true.
Video Transcript
thank you all thanks Charlie it's good to be here and thank you again to High Point you know we were scrambling to try to find a venue and we found one and who would have known that college campuses aren't the easiest place to find uh find spaces to do events but um JD great to see you um I don't want to spoil the lead here but I will say a lot of people are probably wondering you were on Joe Rogan yesterday so a lot of people were like I was yeah yeah we we did almost four hours with Joe Rogan and that's called the introduction yeah that's right we covered almost every imaginable topic and it's supposed to to drop around 1:00 today so the episode will be out today you guys will have to listen and tell me what you think so so you're you're traveling the country you're in three states today U meeting with voters and here in North Carolina uh it has actually I believe it's 120 plus universities colleges or community colleges it it's it's very it's populated with Gen Z and voters that care about um their own future owning homes so on and so forth what are you hearing from voters and what is your opening message to younger voters that are not sure how to think about this election yeah well first of all I think younger voters in some ways have the most to lose or the most to gain from getting this election either right or wrong because you know one of the things that worries me when I hear Comm Hara speak is I hear a person who doesn't have strong or sincere views about what she actually wants to do set to the side any policy disagreement you might have with kamla Harrison I have a lot and set to the side by the the way a policy disagreements you might have with a person like Barack Obama and I have a lot there what I would say for Barack Obama but I would not say for kamla Harris is that he actually has beliefs and thoughts in his head for how he wants to govern the United States of America and I hate to say that I don't think you can say this about kamla Harris now the problem there is that that person becomes an empty fessel for whatever the prevailing ideas that are governing in Washington DC are and what are the Prevailing ideas that are governing in Washington DC that affect young people proportionately number one that we should use our young people as Canon fodder for foreign military Misadventures that are frankly going to get a lot of your peers killed unless we have a smarter foreign policy I think you guys have a lot to lose because we are on the precipice of many broad regional Wars potentially even a World War do you want a person like kamla Harris negotiating in private rooms with people like Vladimir Putin and G jingping or do you want a guy like Donald Trump actually sticking up for the United States of America I think the answer to that question is obvious the second prevailing idea in Washington DC is that we should let in millions upon millions of illegal immigrants who compete against Young Americans for important jobs who undercut the wages of American workers and it's American workers of every color every background but we have to recognize that when you let in millions upon millions of illegal aliens it really sever severely undercuts the wages of people especially people who are entering the workforce which is true of every person in this room and the final thing I'll say Charlie is if you look at the biggest drivers of why why are homes unaffordable in the United States of America right now why have housing prices gone up by 45% in the state of North Carolina but by similar levels in all of the major Battleground States uh or even higher levels the answer is that one we're not building enough homes right and if you look at Donald Trump's regulatory policies versus kamla Harris's regulatory policies yes if Donald Trump is President we will build far more homes than we would if KLA Harris is the president but it's important to recognize that no matter how many homes you build if you allow an unlimited wave of illegal immigrants to come into the United States of America those people are going to end up owning the houses or living in the houses that ought by right go to American citizens and this is something you see whether you look at it at a locality by locality level if you look at it at a national level when you let in way too many illegal immigrants the price of housing shoots through the roof so the question young people have to ask is do I want to have a job where I earn a good day's wage for a good day's work because if so you've got to vote for Donald Trump do I want to raise a family in an environment or just build a life in an environment where I can afford to buy a home because if you'd like to do that the only person is Donald J Trump KLA Harris's policies are going to produce more war more poverty higher housing prices and lower wages for American workers you guys have more to lose than anybody because if we let the American dream as Charlie said in his introduction if we let the American dream disappear in the United States of America the consequences are going to fall hardest on the people in this room that's well said and and so let's dive deeper into part of it less and less young people believe it's even possible to restore the American sure and and it needs to be a rebirth of optimism that our best days can be ahead um president Donald Trump has laid out an amazing agenda starting with of course no tax on tips no tax on overtime drill baby drill uh no tax on social security largest middle- class tax cut and increasing the pool of homes talk more about how we just need to reinvigorate the psyche of a younger generation that has just sometimes checked out has become largely cynical about their future yeah well I I think the way to reinvigorate America is to do it substantively and to do it with real ideas that are going to improve the lives of our citizens not with these ridiculous slogans I mean you know you ask kamla Harris a question even in a softball interview and I'll say this for KLA Harris I think that every time she answers one of these questions we pick up about 50,000 or 100,000 votes because you know they'll say what what is your specific what is your specific plan to to lower the price of groceries what's your specific plan to make the American dream of home ownership more affordable and she'll say well I grew up in a middle- class family like okay I grew up in a workingclass family and I I you know that's not a solution to the problems that the country is facing it's important to talk about your background so people know who you are but it's also important to talk about the details and what I think that President Trump is fundamentally proposing is he's he's trying to make it easier to invest and build build things in the United States of America whether that's a home a family a business he's trying to make it harder to Offshore and ship the American dream to other countries that that's fundamentally if you look at his tax policy his tax policy and again he can talk about the details better than anybody but you look at his tax policy it's about if you work if you build a life if you're creating a company or working in a business in the United States of America we are going to make it easier for you to be rewarded for your hard work if you're shipping jobs overseas we're going to make it harder for you to do that and we're going to penalize you for doing that if you're trying to build a home if you're trying to unleash American Energy we're going to make those things easier for you I mean there are very very specific things that you can do I think to invigorate the American dream and to invigorate the American population but if you don't have a real plan for how to get this country back on track people know when they're being lied to and I think that a lot of people who listen to kamla Harris even people who might agree with her ideologically who might consider themselves more left of center if you listen to kamla Harris pay attention to what she says she has no plan to make your life better that's why she's spending all this time talking about Donald Trump and calling her fellow Americans Nazis and garbage kamla Harris is way more interested in Donald Trump's past than she is your future and we need a president who knows that the way to get the country back on track is to govern it effectively to give people a specific sense of what that Vision looks like and then to implement that vision and let Americans do what they do best which is build a good life for themselves that's what has to change and that's what's so different about kamla Harris's present leadership versus the change that Donald J Trump is offering he's telling you what he's going to do for you she's talking about what he did four years ago um so so last question here before we get to some questions um I I want to talk about this unique moment of who is coalescing behind president Trump and also who is uh lining up behind kamla Harris first on kamla Harris you see these war mongers that have sent young men and women like this in this room to unnecessary no- win Wars such as Liz Cheney you know John Bolton Leon Panetta but on President Trump's side you're part of this kind of Avengers team sure and you got vrama Swami you got Elon Musk Tulsi gabard Bobby Kennedy you have two people that formerly ran for the presidency as Democrats the former co-chair of the Democrat Party you have the most successful entrepreneur of the modern era Elon Musk can you talk about this realignment because for people that might be more Center left I think it's important to realize two people that ran for the presidency as Democrats are now enthusiastically behind Donald Trump yeah so if you guys go back to 2003 I was a junior Min well sorry I was a senior in high school in 2003 I enlisted in the United States Marine Corp in 2003 and most of you my my assumption is most of you were either not even alive then or were very very young and I wish that I could go back in time and tell myself from the perspective of 2003 that if Dick Cheney is in control if a person with the last name of Cheney is in control of American foreign policy it is a damn shame and a lot of bad things are going to happen because of it because you guys are now even though you weren't alive then I I can tell you my my old 18-year-old self is coming forward into the future and telling you guys when a Cheney is telling you how you should live your lives and how you should vote you should run in the other direction and that is what you have an opportunity to do I didn't know at the time that a Cheney in charge of American foreign policy would lead to a lot of innocent Americans and also other people losing their lives I didn't know that it would lead to disastrous foreign policy you guys now know that so vote like you know it and don't reward the party of Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney and kamla Harris reward the party of Tulsi gabard Elon Musk and Donald J Trump because they're the ones who are going to accomplish peace and prosperity for all of you in this room but for all of your peers too it is an amazing thing I mean if you think about this Tulsi gabard probably ended kamla Harris's presidential run in 2020 remember kamla didn't make it to the primary in 2020 because Tulsi gabard observed rightly that Harris had built her entire career off of throwing a lot of innocent people in prison and that was it for KLA Harris well now who's Tulsi gabt supporting she was on the stage with me last night in Pennsylvania and by the way Charlie if talk about your all-time political trades I love the fact that we traded Liz Cheney for Tulsi gabber that is a hell of a good thing something I'm very happy about but but but you ask yourself you know because it's a big change right right I mean Bobby Kennedy was a lifelong Democrat and now he's supporting Donald J Trump Tulsi Gabbert a lifelong Democrat is now a Republicans supporting Donald J Trump uh you know what has changed and I I think it goes back to basic Common Sense okay we are now the party of common sense of not letting in unlimited waves of illegal immigration of having schools that educate rather than indoctrinate children of having a common sense foreign policy that's more built around peace and diplomacy and American strength than American weakness and War and Chaos we are the common sense party and that is really the realignment that's happened you don't have to agree with me on every issue you don't have to agree with Donald J Trump on every issue but if you think that what's going on in the present moment in the United States of America is just a little too crazy and a little too weird to use the democrat's favorite word of this cycle then you have an opportunity to throw the bums out and give the American people the change that they need now here here's here's another final observation on make I mean I you know one I I'm joined today by a very dear friend and he told me that he just took his kids out of school now I imagine that most of the young people here probably all of you don't have children yet but a lot of you will one day and do you want to raise your families in a country where you can send your kids to school and have confidence they're going to get a good education I think that should be the right of every American child and every American parent is we give a good education to the children who grow up in the United States of America and I'm just telling you a friend of mine a guy I trust very dearly he just pulled his kids out of school because he doesn't believe that under KLA Harris's leadership his kids are getting the education they deserve again you have an opportunity to change that vote for Donald J Trump in six days or before love it all right let's uh let's get to some questions here we have um some students here at High Point in a local area so please introduce yourself hi my name is Julia is mic on great hello perfect we can hear you hi my name is Julia I would just like to say senator Vance and Mr Kirk thank you for being here today Senator Vance my question for you today is specifically how will you improve the economy in a way that it benefits 20-year-olds young 20-year-olds such as myself Julie thanks so much for the the question and you know I want to start out by saying I grew up in a workingclass family I'm kidding kidding now you you asked you asked for specifics so let me let me give you a few specifics okay so right now the American tax code is designed in a way that rewards investment overseas and in some ways penalizes investment in the United States what does that mean that means fewer factories fewer businesses fewer you know non-factory businesses whether it's manufacturing or non-manufacturing are being built in the United States of America that means we have less technological innovation in the United States of America and that means our workers aren't earning the higher wages that we want in the United States of America if you go back to the 50s the 60s the 70s workers were getting consistent pay increases year-over-year from about 1980 on workers didn't get really a solid pay increase for 40 years the one exception the four-year exception was When Donald J Trump was president from 2017 to 2020 because he made it easier to build things in the United States of America and he frankly made it harder to build things overseas that's the number one thing is to change the tax code and you hear this word tariff a lot okay tariff is thrown around a lot you know the the kamla Harris campaign says that it's a tax well here's what a tariff actually does say for example that you're you're an American Business and you're deciding whether to build a company or expand a company in China or in the United States of America now what China has going for it is that you can pay literal slave laborers at $3 a day where in America and I think this is a good thing you've got to pay people a middle class wage now why is that a good thing because I want all of you to earn good wages for a good day's work but if you're going to encourage investment in the United States of America you've got to penalize the companies who choose to make their things in China and the only way to penalize them is what's called a tariff if they try to bring something that was manufactured by those Chinese slave laborers back into our country we're going to slap a big fat tariff and say you've got to pay a penalty to get that stuff back into our country that's how we protect protect the middle- class jobs of our citizens and that's how we make it easier to invest in the United States of America there's a second thing Charlie already said this but I'm going to repeat it because it's very important think about the biggest driver of cost increases I don't want you just to earn a good wage I also want you to be able to afford to buy things with the money that your hard-earned dollars um with with the with the hard-earned dollars that you earn okay so why are costs getting so high it's complicated but the the biggest single driver is energy think about this if a truck driver is paying 45% more for diesel then the groceries that truck D ever delivers to the grocery store are going to become way more expensive we talk about housing if the guy who's delivering the lumber to the job site is paying 40% more for gasoline then all of us are going to be paying more for the houses that are built with those delivered materials so how do you get energy costs lower you drill baby drill that is the fundamental principle of Donald Trump's Economic Policy now what does that mean that means you reduce regulations on the energy sector you build pipelines so that we can get energy from one place to another very easily you make it easier to unleash our great energy economy and you're going to create a lot of good jobs in the energy sector but you're also going to make it so that Julia you and your friends pay less when you go to the grocery store or when you go and buy clothes or when you go and buy a house everything becomes cheaper if we unleash the American Energy economy and that's why it's a critical piece of Donald Trump's economic plan thank you uh I think we're going to go here is that right you have a mic if not uh you here next okay great hi I'm Rowan hey Rowan how are you hi nice to meet yall nice to meet you um again I just want to say thank you both Senator and Mr Kirk for being here today we're really grateful that you decided to come spend some some time in High Point um as far as my question goes we know that many voters in our generation have expressed concerns about our financial futures um amidst the current housing crisis we've seen a lot of stricter zoning building regulations especially from local governments especially from Democrats and it's definitely been very detrimental to our housing system what specifically do you see in policies changing that will help to ensure that we can one day own home yeah thank you for the question Rowan and you know one just to go back to the energy cost that's a big driver of housing cost so lowering energy cost is going to help us lower the cost of housing now the second thing is you're right that a lot of these local regulations put in place by governments local governments primarily Democrats make it harder to build housing but there's a lot that we can do on the federal level to reduce regulations and make it easier to build houses in the first place we want to do those things and frankly we probably want to make it harder for those local government to restrict the supply of housing so again all of you guys can actually afford to buy a home or at least to rent a home at a reasonable rate when you guys are at the the point when you want to do that and then the final thing that I'll say Rowan is you you need to pursue the kind of tax policy that allows people to invest in building in the United States of America and and again that's something that we've really gone in the wrong direction on the last few years is you you got to ask yourself if you invest in the United States and you make a fair amount of money and we want people who invest to be able to make money are you paying a bigger tax on that than if you invest overseas and if the answer is yes then we're penalizing people who are building houses and other things in the United States of America we've got to change that and between reducing the regulations reducing the energy costs and I'll go back to reducing illegal aliens who are competing with Americans for scarce homes I think we do we we can actually make the American dream of homeownership more available and more affordable again the way that I think about this is the country is in in so many ways in such a good spot right I mean you guys are talented you're smart you guys are going to develop skills in the workforce you don't even realize that you have we've got the most incredible resources the best natural resources of any country in the entire world we are ready to unleash a golden age of American Prosperity but only if we fix the broken leadership in Washington that's what we're going to do that's what we all get an opportunity to do in five six short days thank you really quick I just want to um make sure that kamla's awful plan is highlighted she wants to give $25,000 per person which sounds good for a home what will that do to housing prices almost immediately I think that's important to compare in contrast yeah so so if you don't increase the supply of houses and then you continue to allow illegal aliens to compete against American citizens for those houses what you will necess necessarily do is you give $25,000 you're going to increase the cost of housing by $25,000 so again this this is fundamentally the difference between the kamla Harris approach and the Donald Trump approach Donald Trump is trying to make it easier to build and invest and to create things in our country commala Harris is trying to pass out free money to cover over the fact that her own policies are why housing is so expensive and Charlie it's not just if you look at the details of her plan she's not just saying she's going to give $25,000 to American citizens she's also saying she's going to give $25,000 a lot of times to people who aren't even in the country legally to begin with so you're probably going to you know you you know even if her plan is implemented which I'm skeptical but even if it's implemented your housing prices are going to go up by 354 $50,000 and then you get a $25,000 check in the mail have you won or lost in that equation meanwhile if Donald J Trump's plan gets implemented you're going to be paying less for housing to the tune of 25 45 $50,000 that's how you win and that's how you make American housing more affordable yeah and she won't even send a $25,000 check it's like a tax um incentive which every every realtor will just say every house more expensive shoot right up yes ma'am hey Paige I'm a senior at High Point University graduating in May and congratulations thank you I'm starting to look at my options on where to move and work after college my question is how will you and president Trump fix the amount of illegal immigrants in this country specifically relating to the safety of young women like myself thinking about moving to New York City after school sure sure well it's a very good question Paige first of all don't move to New York City until after the election that's you know vote in North Carolina and then you can move somewhere else afterwards we really need your vote here in North Carolina um I mean honestly Paige I wish I could give you a different answer but I'd be very worried about moving to some of these you know one party States and one party cities because if you look at the levels of violent crime especially assaults muggings things like that they're moving in the wrong direction and they're moving in the wrong direction in large part because we have l in massive amounts of illegal immigration into our country and most of those people thank God aren't criminals but a lot of them are which is why we see increased levels of criminal Behavior you know I I was asked by a news reporter it's one of the most shocking questions I've ever been asked where she said aren't you guys overstating the problem of gang activity among illegal aliens because only a handful of apartment complexes have been taken over by criminal gangs and my response was are you hearing yourself only a handful of apartment complexes well Paige I don't want you to move into a complex that's been taken over by a criminal gang and then some journalist is going to say well Paige it's only a handful of apartment complexes right you've got to actually be able to enforce our borders and and specifically there are three big things that Kam Harris did that we're going to undo and accelerate so that we can actually get our border under control the first and most important is KLA Harris really cut down deportations if you know you can come into the country without ever being deported you're going to keep on coming into the country illegally so we have to reimplement deportations in the United States of America the second is and I've been to the Border more more times than our illustrious borders are comma Harris I if you go to certain parts of the Border you will see slabs of border wall laying in the dirt rusting because she stopped construction of the border wall and the border patrol will tell you that where the border wall was constructed you saw a massive decrease in the amount of illegal immigration let's just finish that border wall and cut down even more on illegal immigration and then the third thing page and this gets a little bit into the details of immigration policy but it really matters is when a person comes to the United States and says that they're claiming Asylum what do you do with that person Donald Trump answer was they have to stay in Mexico while that claim is adjudicated KLA Harris's answer is we're going to let this person roam freely in the United States of America for 10 15 years that's called Catch and Release we've got to stop Catch and Release we do those three things I think we'll cut down on violent crime and will make it easier for you to choose to live where you want to live but I hope you'll come and live in Ohio or stay in North Carolina not go to New York City thanks Paige yes sir uh do you have something you want to say no okay thank uh thank you very much for coming to meet us all Senator and um thank you for fitting Us in within your busy schedule uh my name is Bret and my question for you is many of my generation are concerned about a possible war with China and more importantly with that for us a possible draft sure and so with Rising tensions within the South China Sea border clashes between India and China what do the Trump Vance administration's plan to deescalate from this Rising crisis yeah BR it's it's a very important question and look this is the thing that I worry the most about for this generation is that if we don't get foreign policy right A lot of people in your generation are going to pick up the pieces and fix the mistakes of the current generation of American leadership and I don't want you to have to do that I want you guys to build great lives I want you to work in great careers I want you to start families I want you to be able to live your dreams not have to go and fight a war because Kamara is screwed up again as she's been doing for the last three and a half years and it's going to get a lot worse if we promote her to president of the United United States and you know our specific plan to deescalate in the South China Sea is you know it's it's somebody said it some smart strategist said the best way to stop a war is to prevent a war from starting in the first place and this is what you know if you go back to Donald Trump's foreign policy consider Europe Russia invaded a Sovereign Nation when Barack Obama was President Russia invaded a Sovereign Nation when George W Bush was president Russia invaded a Sovereign Nation during the Biden Harris Administration the one time in the last two decades that Russia didn't invade a Sovereign Nation was when under the four-year administration of Donald J Trump now why was that and people always say especially my fellow Republicans they always say well Donald Trump's foreign policy was strong well it was strong and that's definitely true but that's only half of it it was also smart because even though the media accused him and attacked him for it he was willing to engage in diplomacy sometimes even with very bad people because you can't just talk to the good people when you're engaging in diplomacy You' got to talk to everybody that's what real leadership looks like again I was with tulsy gabard yesterday and she told me and I I didn't realize this that there was a major threat from North Korea of an ICBM an intercontinental ballistic missile hitting Hawaii early in 2017 well that threat came from North Korea and what did Donald Trump do Donald Trump went and talked to the leader of North Korea even though all of the media said that he shouldn't and guess how many threats against Hawaii were made after Donald Trump had that sitdown meeting zero because sometimes you can't just be strong you have to be smart specifically in the South China Sea the the the solution here to prevent war is to make it as costly as possible for the Chinese to invade Taiwan in the first place everyone will tell you that if the Chinese establish territory in Taiwan if they establish a beach head in Taiwan it becomes very hard and a lot of people get killed so you prevent them from doing that and the way you prevent them from doing that is to make sure they've got enough weapons to defend themselves again prevention is the best way to stop a war you know an ounce of deterrence is worth a lot more than a pound of stupid foreign policy from kamla haris so we've got to do the deterrence and unfortunately we're just not doing that now this is one of the you know more difficult questions that exist in American foreign policy is because kamla Harris has been sending so many resources to Ukraine we actually don't have enough to send to Taiwan so by defending by by approaching the Russia Ukraine situation in the way that we have we've actually made it more likely that that the Chinese will invade Taiwan and we need to pursue a foreign policy that makes it less likely and that's what's going to change when Donald Trump is President thank can I just ask a followup is it an exaggeration to say that we are bumbling towards World War II that might include a draft of some people in this room I don't think that's an exaggeration at all I I think that we are sleep walking ourselves into World War II and if you go back to all of the really terrible World conflicts they almost always come from incompetent leadership rather than evil leadership right it's people who just aren't smart and aren't thinking about you know if I do this thing you can't just think about the immediate consequence you've got to ask yourself what is the second order and the third order consequence if I send a lot of javelins and a lot of artillery shells to one country does that mean that another country is not getting the resources necessary to prevent itself if I spend a lot of money over here do the Chinese perceive that we're weaker than we should be because we haven't spent that money on our own defense these are the things that Donald J Trump thinks about and unfortunately these are not the things that KLA Harris thinks about so do I think that we're at the greatest risk of a third world war in my lifetime Charlie absolutely I do and if there is a third world war it is the people in this room who are going to be drafted and called upon to fight it I don't want that I do not want you guys to have to put on a uniform not because you're patriotic and volunteer but because your country forces you to because kamla Harris has blundered us into another significant conflict but the opportunity to stop that and to take the country in a new direction is this election so get out there and vote for many reasons but maybe the most important reason to get out there and vote is to prevent World War I amen yes ma'am hi Senator Vance my name is Hayes I am uh vice president here of Turning Point USA my question for you is as a politician how has your faith and ethics been tested and as we're going into the workforce I mean I'm a political science major um what advice do you have for when um inevitably our faith in us iics are also tested um or as our generation knows does the nice guy always finish last sure well though he I don't think the nice guy always finishes last but sometimes the nice guy also has to be tough right so remember that just because you're nice doesn't mean that you're weak and remember that nice guys can also be tough and i' I'd encourage or nice gals can also be tough and I'd encourage you guys to absolutely be kind and virtuous be generous of spirit but also always be a little tough right both both of those things can be true and both of those things can be useful you know probably the first time that my my faith and my my ethics and my my sense of my duty to the people of Ohio was tested was early on in my Senate term when there was this terrible train derailment in East Palestine Ohio and you probably saw the images you can go and Google it but basically there was a train derailment and and it was a mistake we maybe didn't know it at the time but they set off a massive chemical explosion after the train derailment which just you know basically it was like a chemical bomb went off in this small town in nor Eastern Ohio and so I went and visited the town many times over the next few months and one of the things that I kept on noticing is that the residents and they were normally the residents who were a little poorer who didn't have as much money who didn't have the same influence they would come up to me and they would say this thing is happening or that thing is happening in particular they kept on telling me that even though they were being told that the creeks in the town were safe they thought they saw evidence of chemical pollution in the creeks and that was on one of my first visits there so I said okay you know here here's here's what I was being pressured to do I was being pressured to ignore them to basically say oh they're crazy people they don't know what they're talking about but some inner voice was saying this is your job your job is to listen to people sometimes the downtrodden that nobody else is listening to so I said to my team drive me to a creek I want to go see this for for myself and I stuck a stick in the water and it was like an oil sheen in a creek in East Palestine Ohio it was clearly not safe and it was clearly not healthy and I realized in that moment that if you always listen to the media or you always listen to the people who have fancy credentials and look all of you are college students you're you know when you graduate you will get a very fancy credential sometimes those fancy credentials are useful but sometimes the people who use their credentials to silence their fellow citizens are just wrong and part of your job as a future leader is is going to be to listen to the people even if they're not always the people that the media or somebody else tells you you should listen to and what helped me in that moment Hayes is I kept on thinking about the grandmother who raised me and I'm sure that all of you have some person some person of influence in your life who's kind of is a core part of you forming your conscience I kept on saying what would my grandmother do because what my grandmother would not do is if some poor person from East Palestine came up to me and said Senator I don't think the water is safe she would not have said go back to your car I'm not interested in what you're you have to say she would have said listen to people listen to people maybe sometimes they're going to be wrong by the way but you still have to listen to them first and that's maybe the most important lesson I've learned as a leader is the media and you see this with Joe Biden Joe Biden called half of America garbage for wanting to vote for Donald J Trump KLA Harrison her running mate have been calling people who support Trump Nazis and fascists what is that ultimately about it's about silencing people it's about telling the American people you're not good enough to voice concern over the policies of comma Harris's leadership my job is to listen to people whether they vote for us or not our job as Leaders is to listen to the people that we serve and that is my promise and that's something that my faith has been very very important in making sure happens thank you a right here yes ma'am hi my name is Trinity and I'm a freshman here at High Point University it's awesome to meet you guys and nice to meet Trinity thank you my question to you is with the increased cost associated with living and the debt the US is racking up how important do you believe it is to stick to a budget and how well do you believe President Trump will stick to that budget it's it's a very good question Trinity and and they're actually connected right these problems are connected because when the government spends more money that it takes in then it has to print that money and that printed money shows up as inflation so the average North Carolina family is about 29 ,000 poor because of commonly Harris's inflation now they didn't see that in an IRS bill but they saw it in their groceries bill they saw it in their rental bill they saw it in their car payments that inflation is a hidden tax on American citizens and it comes partially from when the government spends more money than it that it than it takes in so what we have to do is is is we have to cut spending in this country and there are a lot of very specific things that you can do to reduce the amount of money the federal government is spending I mean look there is so so much stupid stuff that your government does with your tax dollars we could get back to some very common sense fiscal principles very quickly and you're answered your question about whether Donald Trump is going to work for this absolutely Donald Trump is going to work for this because we know when we're elected that one of our mandates is to lower the cost of living for our citizens and you can't do that unless you take care of the ridiculous out ofont control spending from the federal government and there are a few things that you can do so number one people don't realize this but the cost of illegal aliens to the United States of America is somewhere between $150 to $500 billion per year okay and that's housing benefits that's welfare benefits that's Social Security and Medicare fraud we can do a lot just by taking care of the immigration problem we're also still spending a lot of money from the co era that we shouldn't be spending that the the the public health pandemic thank God it's over and we should never go back to some of the Draconian measures that we took then but it's over now we should not be spending money like a drunken sailor like we did back during the co era so you do those two things you can really really lower the cost of living but also get our long-term budgetary picture on a more sustainable pathway and as Charlie knows like so many other issues this one affects you more than it does me right because all of you are going to outlive me hopefully all of you are going to outlive me you're going to be paying off the debt that we're incurring right now for a lot longer than any of our politicians so when you see Harris suspending proposals you ought to be asking yourself is it worth the debt that I'm going to be paying off for the rest of my life almost always the answer is no we should vote for fiscal sanity which is why Donald J Trump needs to be our next president now now just a a fun little wrinkle to that that I know everyone in the audience will enjoy um president Trump has blessed Doge the the department of government efficiency run by Elon Musk I mean it's a little bit silly at the same time Elon has a track record of cutting spending and in waste can you just comment on that a little bit the philosophy being that we haven't had a real good examination of federal budget especially with new Biden spending yeah so here's I've been in the senate for a couple years here's how we do budgeting in the United States Senate and the United States house and this is going to sound like an exaggeration it's not we basically get right to the point where the government runs out of money and then somebody says okay let's just pass a bill where the we spend the exact same amount that we did last year only with a few per increase for inflation and then everybody votes for it not me but most people vote for it and that's how we do budgeting in the in the in the government it it it's like if you're a household you get right to the point where you're about to be delinquent on your credit card and your mortgage and then you just say all right we're going to take out another credit card we don't have to worry about it for another year but eventually you got to worry about it because eventually the line of credit runs dry what what Elon Musk is talking about is very simple it's taking people with a different perspective a private sector perspective and actually looking at the budget saying how much are we spending on this program how much should we be spending and doing that asking that basic question for every line item in the federal budget and I guarantee that when you do that Charlie you're going to find hundreds of billions of dollars maybe even trillions of dollars of savings of your money that we're spending not because we even said we need to spend this money you may disagree with that decision but it's not like a politician said we need to spend this money we're spending it because we kicked the can down the road and what Elon Musk and what a lot of us are talking about with this department of government efficiency is actually going in and saying all right we're going to look at how much we're spending we're going to compare it against how much we should be spending and we're going to actually rationalize and make sense of the federal budget for the first time in a very long time I love that uh who is up yes sir hi I'm Grant I'm a junior at High Point University and my question for you is as you know college is more expensive than ever because of the economy and a loan will be double or triple of what it originally is is so what can the Trump Administration do to keep the interest rates low such as a cap on student loans so students are not in years of debt yes sir very very important question and you know one of the things that we we don't talk enough about is that while the student debt in this country has is is at this point I believe about $1.7 trillion you know that University endowments and Foundations have collected about $1.7 trillion of wealth of okay so the very universities that sometimes and I don't think it's true of High Point University but it's true of a lot of our colleges they're putting students into a lifetime of debt servitude they're overcharging students are overpaying and also the colleges aren't being honest about what the students are actually getting out of their education so I think that we need to do two things number one we need real price transparency and also real uh transparency about what the benefits are are of a college degree when you go to college your college should have to tell you here's what you're going to get out of this particular degree here's what you're going to get out of this particular program of study I had no idea what I was getting myself into when I went to college uh you should know what you're getting yourself into when you go to college and that means that colleges have to be more honest about it here's the second thing we need to not have a lifetime of debt servitude follow around our students and and I want to contrast this because when kamla Harris talks about this issue issue she's basically talking about Shifting the debt from one group of citizens to another having plumbers and electricians pay for the debt of college students I think that's irrational and it's unfair because it's not the plumbers and the electricians who are at fault for this college debt crisis it's very often the university administrators themselves who are not being honest with you guys about what you're getting out of college experience so here's one thing we should do we should say that if you are accumulating a lot of college debt that debt is not going to follow you around for the rest of your life that's a simple policy choice that we made and we're going to unmake it because if you incur a lot of debt and you know you you get into a situation where you're in a tough financial position you should not have the colleges able to collect on your debt sometimes even garnishing your wages before you can actually get the paycheck that's coming to you we've created a gener ation of debt servants that's got to change and frankly it means that colleges have to take accountability not our fellow citizens the colleges have got to take accountability for this college debt crisis they've created so so so in closing um we have to wrap it up to kind of make the the final argument here to younger voters across the country and here in North Carolina as I mentioned there is this unrecognized breakdown in the social contract we you we do politics for many reasons but basically we do it to make sure that your kids have a better life right that's why we do what we do and it there has been generational theft that has occurred to this generation and JD you're kind of in the middle here I hope you guys understand this is the youngest vice presidential candidate I think in what like 150 years first Millennial on a major party first Millennial and I'm a millennial here so we we we we share a generation in that way and so JD has an an ability to really see into what you guys are experiencing and understanding um a lot of these problems you guys have never lived no one's ever lived to this before and your parents say oh it was hard when we were younger they had a much different set of circumstances than you guys did the the likelihood of you renting and not owning is much more likely to rent not own if things continue so kind of summarize this all together JD for a generation where the social contract has been broken and we must renew it so my simple argument to all of you and to all of your generation is that you should be pissed off and why should you be pissed off you should be pissed off because you're the first generation in the history of the United States of America that is unlikely to be able to own a home that is unlikely to be able to earn a wage on which you can raise a family that is more likely to be indebted than you are to accumulate wealth and the reason you should be pissed off is because it's come from a failed generation of American leadership the people who are older than me and older than you they have failed you they have created an economy where you're more likely to incur debt than you are to incur wealth they've created a college debt crisis that follows you around for your entire life they've created an economy where you can't earn wages that support a family they've created housing market where it's nearly impossible for most Americans of your age to be able to buy a home this was a policy Choice the failure that has fallen on your generation was a policy choice and we can make a different policy choice but only if you guys get pissed off about the position you've been put in and vote for a change in leadership that is fundamentally what Donald Trump his entire lifetime if you go back to the 1980s and the 1990s Donald Trump was predicting that if we went down this road it would lead to a generation of American young people who were poppers in their own country and he was right about it and then he became president and for four short years he undid Decades of damage but you can't undo all the damage in one 4-year term you need longer and that's what he's fundamentally asking you to do give him another four years to undo more of the damage of a failed generation of American Career politicians but he cannot do it without your help you guys get to make the determination are you angry and are you voting for more of the same more of the same broken promises more of the same sloganeering politicians more of the same failed bureaucrats or are you voting for the real change of Donald J Trump's leadership I'd encourage you vote for president Trump vote for me vote for a new direction of this country you guys of all people in the United States of America you cannot reward the people who want to make you poppers in your own country I want you to be an owner of the United States of America because our country is going to be stronger if that's true God bless you thank you for having thank you guys so much [Applause]
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