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Charlie Kirk Reveals How Tik Tok and Young Voters Fueled Trump's Historic Comeback Victory
Charlie Kirk breaks down the unprecedented shift in young voters that powered Trump's comeback, revealing how his Tik Tok strategy generated a billion views in 90 days and reached working-class Americans in ways traditional media never could. Kirk shares the untold story of how October 7th inadvertently opened the door for conservative content on Tik Tok, and how Baron Trump's podcast strategy helped secure a massive 30-point swing among young male voters. This candid discussion with Chris Cuomo explores the defining moments of 2024 that made Trump's victory possible.
The Tik Tok Phenomenon That Changed Everything
Charlie Kirk's Tik Tok account has become a cultural force, generating between 60 to 80 million views daily. His videos regularly hit astronomical numbers—50 million, 138 million, 226 million views per clip. But the story of how Kirk gained access to Tik Tok reveals a fascinating chain of events that nobody saw coming.
For years, Kirk and his team at Turning Point USA tried to establish a presence on Tik Tok but faced censorship on campus-related topics. Then October 7th happened, and everything changed. The platform became a hub for anti-Israel sentiment among Gen Z, which accelerated the push to ban Tik Tok in the United States. Mitt Romney even stated publicly at a security conference that they were banning Tik Tok specifically because it was sowing anti-Israel sentiment.
With an incoming Trump administration on the horizon, Kirk's team saw an opportunity. They reached out to Tik Tok with a proposition: treat conservative content fairly, and they would become one of the platform's biggest advocates. Tik Tok responded positively, laying out transparent rules for content moderation.
Reaching the Muscular Class
Kirk began posting recordings of his college campus discussions—open dialogues he had been conducting for 12 years. The response was immediate and overwhelming. Five million views became six million, then ten million, and eventually a billion views in just 90 days.
What surprised Kirk most wasn't just the volume but the demographic composition of his audience. Tik Tok became the most effective platform he had ever used to reach the working class—janitors, waiters, waitresses, Uber drivers, police officers, and firefighters. The audience was also remarkably diverse, including substantial Black, Hispanic, Asian, and Pacific Islander viewership.
Kirk recalls speaking in Vegas where numerous Hispanic and Asian-American service workers approached him, all having discovered him through Tik Tok. They thanked him for connecting dots and presenting ideas in an engaging, accessible format. The platform's entertainment value combined with substantive political discussion created something unique in conservative media.
The Historic Shift in Young Voters
The 2024 election witnessed a seismic shift in young voter behavior that few predicted. According to Wall Street Journal reporting, Trump achieved a 14-point lead among men under 30—a drastic 30-point shift from 2020 when Biden held a 15-point lead. Among women under 30, Harris led by only 18 points, down from 32 points in 2020.
Nationally, voters under 30 comprised 16% of the electorate, up from 13% in 2020. Harris's support among young voters shrunk to just six points over Trump (52% to 46%). Economic issues dominated their concerns, with 39% of young women and 42% of young men prioritizing jobs and the economy above all other issues.
Baron Trump played a significant role in this strategy, recommending appearances on platforms like Adin Ross's gaming streams and various podcasts that drew hundreds of thousands of views. The campaign reached young voters through college events, Tik Tok, and popular podcasts—a multi-platform approach that met young people where they already spent their time.
The Bro Vote Controversy
Chris Cuomo raised an important point about the term "bro vote" being used in media coverage. He sees it as a pejorative—a way of diminishing what resonates with young men and a continuation of an intentional strategy of bringing down young men in public discourse.
Cuomo noted that he gets called a "bro" despite being 54 years old, and the term is never used positively when describing podcast appearances or voter outreach. When media discusses "bro podcasts," there's an implicit dismissiveness, as if it's beneath serious political discourse.
This dismissive attitude extends to figures like Joe Rogan, who Cuomo describes as having an amazing platform rather than being a thought leader himself. Rogan's audience skews right, and his willingness to host long-form conversations with various guests creates value. The pejorative framing of reaching young men through these channels, Cuomo argues, represents a strategic mistake by Democrats.
The Defining Moments of 2024
When asked to identify the pivotal moments that led to Trump's historic comeback, both Kirk and Cuomo offered compelling analyses.
Kirk identified three critical factors:
- Elon Musk's Purchase of Twitter: This allowed freedom of speech on a major platform, changing how the entire country consumed information. The national popular vote tilt indicated that information consumption patterns had shifted nationwide, not just regionally. Issues like immigration and Ukraine suddenly gained traction in ways they couldn't on other censored platforms.
- The Indictments of Donald Trump: When Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg indicted Trump on charges that even legal experts struggled to explain, Trump became a martyr to his supporters and a sympathetic figure to regular Americans. People who couldn't afford groceries saw a man they'd been told to hate facing prison time, and it didn't compute. They turned to MSNBC and legacy media for explanations, heard only that Trump was a Nazi and threat to democracy, rejected that narrative, and went to X (Twitter) to find alternative perspectives.
- Elon Musk's Endorsement: On July 13th, the day Trump survived an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, Musk publicly endorsed Trump. Kirk believes divine intervention saved Trump's life—one millimeter made the difference. But Musk's subsequent all-in commitment proved decisive. Drawing from Walter Isaacson's biography, Kirk notes that when Musk focuses on an objective, he becomes a laser beam. He slept on the Tesla factory floor until production issues were resolved. For SpaceX launches, he dedicated his entire life until rockets flew successfully. For Trump's campaign, Musk lived in Pennsylvania for 45 consecutive days, dedicating his fortune, time, and energy with singular focus. Kirk calls Musk "the highest capacity person on the planet" and describes this combination as a force multiplier that literally saved civilization.
Cuomo offered a complementary perspective, emphasizing the inflation narrative as the crucial pivot point. The left found itself in the untenable position of trying to convince Americans they weren't actually paying more for things, or that if they were, it wasn't really a problem. Bill O'Reilly, a frequent guest on Cuomo's show, would consistently begin and end his analysis with gas pumps and grocery stores—the basic economic realities that determine quality of life.
When gas, groceries, rent, mortgages, and healthcare costs are all higher, and the media simultaneously tells voters that the president under whom those costs were lower is the problem, it creates cognitive dissonance. Thanksgiving and Christmas approaching made these economic realities impossible to ignore or spin away.
Cuomo also validated Kirk's analysis of social media as a "force multiplier," noting that independent and fringe voices (using fringe not as a pejorative but to describe non-mainstream perspectives) have done exceptionally well in podcast and social media spaces.
The Rules of Political Success
One fundamental principle emerged from the discussion: do everything, be everywhere, talk to everyone. This approach has become less popular as people retreat to their ideological silos, but Trump's campaign demonstrated its enduring value.
Trump went everywhere—Tik Tok, podcasts, gaming streams, traditional rallies, and college campuses. Each platform offered different audiences and different opportunities. Would Joe Rogan have been the same situation for Kamala Harris as for Trump? No, but that's the nature of different audiences. The key is taking the opportunity regardless.
Cuomo noted that Trump should continue this approach, consistently talking about what he's going to do rather than getting mired in backward-looking battles. He also acknowledged that Trump enjoys being challenged when it's done from a good place in good faith—he likes delivering the occasional cheap shot, but he values substantive dialogue.
The Future of Political Media
The success of Kirk's Tik Tok strategy, Trump's podcast tour, and the overall effectiveness of alternative media platforms signals a permanent shift in political communication. Legacy media no longer controls the narrative or the distribution channels.
Kirk's podcast ranks in the top five on both Apple and Spotify. His daily radio show reaches syndicated audiences. His YouTube, Instagram, Rumble, and X accounts all serve different demographics. But Tik Tok—the platform conservatives couldn't access until circumstances forced its hand—became the most effective tool for reaching the diverse, working-class voters who ultimately decided the election.
The irony is profound: October 7th, a tragedy that reshaped Middle Eastern politics, also inadvertently opened the door for conservative voices on Tik Tok. That opening, combined with Trump's willingness to go everywhere and talk to everyone, created the conditions for the greatest political comeback in American history.
The 30-point swing among young male voters didn't happen by accident. It resulted from meeting people where they are, speaking to their economic anxieties, and refusing to be limited by legacy media's gatekeeping. Kirk's billion views in 90 days, Musk's complete commitment, and Trump's relentless energy combined to create what Kirk describes as a force that saved civilization.
Whether one agrees with that characterization or not, the data is undeniable: young voters shifted dramatically, the national popular vote tilted Republican, and alternative media platforms proved more influential than traditional networks in shaping political outcomes.
Video Transcript
Rob can you pull up Kirk's uh uh Tik Tok
account and if you just pull up Kirk's
Tik Tok account do you dance a lot on
the Tik Tok very rarely if you pull up
his Tik Tok I just want I just want to
show this real quick the Tik Tok story
is crazy and I want you to talk about
this Rob just do me a favor let's go
through some of the clips
okay if you go to popular it's the best
way to because this is all recent
election go to the right go all the way
to the right okay so check this out look
at this year zoom in a little bit Rob if
you could 49 50 million let's be honest
50 million 37 keep going 138 226 23 keep
going Rob this is just the last 22 217
236 20 20 164 go a little lower 92 85
143 60 million views on a daily basis
okay while you're going through this
now Charlie there's Instagram that's a
different audience there's YouTube
different audience you got radio yep
syndicated different audience you got
Rumble different audience X different
audience Tik Tok when you're in the
streets or you go places and people say
I watch your stuff on radio I watch your
stuff I listen to your stff on I watch
you on YouTube I watch you on Instagram
how often do you hear Tik Tok Tik Tok is
80% of the unbelievable you know I hang
out in the streets a lot that's what I'm
no let me say let me say a couple things
on Tik Tok I I'm blown away by this and
look we do a lot on social we do a lot
on podcasting and praise God the podcast
is doing really well so we were trying
to get by the way he's being modest it's
a top five podcast on Apple and Spotify
right now while we're speaking right now
if you look at him he's top five apple
and top five Spotify please continue
thank you yeah and so we a we've been
trying to get on Tik Tok for a while and
Tik Tok had a censorship regime that was
very sensitive to topics that we would
discuss on campus and we kind of just
said forget it well it's interesting and
I have a whole theory that October 7th
was the event that led to the end of the
Democrat Party and I could lead it
through four or five different examples
and I I think Chris would actually agree
with this because it's just an objective
analysis not a partisan one and the the
buried lead of the October 7th was that
it it got Tik Tok banned and remember
the Tik Tok ban stalled based on just
China concerns but Tik Tok was the The
Hub of a lot of the anti-israel
sentiment that was brewing with Gen Z
and then all of a sudden the Tik Tock
ban got uh resurfaced Mitt Romney said
at a security conference we are Banning
Tik Tok because it is sewing anti-israel
sentiment in the United States so Tik
Tok gets banned and our team we had this
idea like hey Tik Tok is in a place
where they don't want to get banned with
an incoming Administration let's send
out a tweet saying hey guys let's do one
more chance if you treat us fairly we'll
become Tik tok's like biggest right-wing
fan right and I will talk and they
reached out and they were great they
said the here are our rules we will uh
transparently enforce them again they
they very very sensitive you talk about
trans stuff it's like incredibly right
even if you do it diplomatically and we
said great so uh again this is all
transparent it's all public there's no
like back room deal and so we started
posting my old College discussions there
because I've been doing this for 12
years where we just have open dialogues
and we started to get 5 million views a
day six million views a day and 10
million views a day and so over the
summer I said well what if this election
season I do like 25 campus stops and we
kind of create these open a discussions
and they might go viral especially on
Tik Tok that could influence a lot of
people to view the election the way
obviously I want them to view it and
yeah look on Tik Tok alone it was a
billion views in 90 days it's like 60 to
80 million views a day and I that sounds
like a number but all of a sudden here's
what was amazing it was the most
effective way I ever reached the working
class in my career the muscular class
janitors waiters waitresses Uber drivers
police officers fire Fighters even more
so than YouTube and and Instagram for
whatever reason something about Tik Tok
really reaches people that Donald Trump
was trying to win 10 or 15% more of and
final thought I'll make on this it's the
most diverse audience that I would I'm
talking about black Hispanic um Asian
young and I'll just tell one story I was
in Vegas about to speak and there were a
bunch of you know waiters and waitresses
coming up asking for pictures all
Hispanic all Asian-American Pacific
Islander that saw me on Tik Tok and
they're like thank you you connected
dots I think and it is a form of
entertainment what we do on Tik Tok
because it's ideas that are kind of
colliding and so PR praise God if you
would have told me a year ago that we'd
have like one of the largest Tik toks
out there in conservative media and all
politics I would have said no way but
and we can go whatever Direction you
want uh Pat but I believe without the
horror and the tragedy on October 7th
and the events that came subsequent um I
I I don't know if we would have had the
success on Tik Tok that we did there's a
there's a story that came out Rob if you
can't oh there it is so it's a Wall
Street Journal story a few days ago
young voters helped fuel Trump's win
okay so and this was kind of interesting
because one day I get a call from Vanity
Fair and they're asking me about what do
you think about the fact that Baron
Trump is getting all these podcast Bros
for his father to get on and what do you
think about that strategy and all this I
said you're talking as if it's a bad
idea on what he's doing I'll read this
to you young voters helped Trump fuel
Trump's win Trump's win included a
14-point lead among men under 30 a
drastic 30-point shift from 2020 when
Biden had a 15-point lead for women
under 30 Harris Harris led by 18 points
a drop from 32 points in 2020 nationally
16% of Voters were under 30 up from 133%
so three plus in 2020 with Harris a
support among them shrinking to just six
six points over Trump 52 to 46 economic
issues dominate a young voters concerns
with 39% of young women and 42% of young
men prior prioritizing jobs in the
economy Trump's campaign reach young
voters through college events Tick Tock
they're talking about you right here and
popular podcast following advice from
his son Baron who recommended appearance
on platforms such as Aiden RZ drawn
hundreds of thousands of views now Aiden
sure gamer all this stuff but a lot of
this if I was to hear someone for
example celebrity gets on oh wow he was
on Aiden great oh my God he was on Logan
Paul and Mike m great sure influence
yeah I can't believe Logan had him on I
get
it Jake actually broke down a 32-minute
video to explain why he's voting I think
that translates you get young voters to
say that's right right that doesn't make
any sense what are you talking about
this doesn't make any sense Chris again
the sport of politics how big you're in
this space you've been in it your entire
life your father's a two-term governor
your brother's a governor so it's not
like you how big of a deal was this for
young voters to flip like this and be
inspired to come out and vote for Trump
so one of the rules in politics is do
everything do everything be in yes mode
go everywhere you can talk to anyone you
can uh that has become less and less
popular as people seek their Silo right
now again this is also evidence of
underperformance I'll start with saying
bro vote to me I don't think is coming
from a good place by the way I don't I
don't think we got to talk about that
defining it as broot I I see is what
does that mean what is brote mean to you
to to me I see it as a way of
diminishing um
what resonates with young men and I
think it's a continuation of a very
overt intentional strategy of bringing
down young men I don't get that blaming
them bro is to me it's it's it's oh you
think it's a pejorative oh yeah I think
it's a I okay okay and I'm okay with it
I I don't I don't see who is called Bros
I get called that you know I'm 54 years
old you know and I see so you think when
people label that they're they're trying
to use it as a oh yeah because because
it's never one of them I got it so when
you're when they say these bro podcast
he's going on like almost like why would
you waste your time getting on it's an
and it's a disrespect it's an extension
of how how people in the media not to
speak for a whole group obviously but
you never hear anything good about Joe
Rogan except his reach now do I see
Rogan as any kind of functional
equivalent to either of you guys no cuz
you're thought leaders I may not not
agree with your thoughts I may not uh
you know I may not want to Echo your
thoughts but you're thought leaders Joe
has an amazing platform that you got to
give him credit for having where he has
guys like you on it that's that's the
appeal his audience is not Independence
his audience breaks right and that's
fine that's fine but to be a pejorative
and say these Bros like somehow it's bad
to have young men wanting to vote for
you I think is a mistake Trump did what
you're supposed to do he went everywhere
so should have Harris was Rogan going to
be the same uh situation for her as for
him no but that's the way it is you know
when When Donald Trump at some point
decides to come on news nation and sit
down it's not going to be like he's
sitting down with Newsmax or Fox News
but you take it the audience gets where
you are he love it he'll love it though
that's the thing that he likes to be
challenged if it's done from a good
place in good faith was he invited oh
yeah no as long
as all the time though he likes it I
agree although he likes he likes to
deliver a cheap shot by the way fair
enough but I think I think you'd do a
good job if and if you came from a
perspective of you want to make sure the
American people have Clarity on what he
believes right my my point is look I
think he needs to sit down here's my
feeling about it okay let's move on the
Democrats have to process the
Republicans had to process in the
midterms process figure it out figure
out what you want don't get overwhelmed
with blaming things uh as as some kind
of Battle of agendas which is is what
the left is doing but that's their
problem we have to be focused forward
Trump should be talking about what he's
going to do all the time can I stay on
this topic I want to stay on this topic
and I want to get your expertise on this
topic so the reason why I'm talking
young voters we're staying here with the
young vs topic is I watch you
know Super Bowl like right now pisses me
off that uh Cincinnati Bengals are three
and five and they've won most they've
lost most of their games by less than a
touchdown whatever
3534 Tom tells me their quarterbacks
suck and I'm
like okay he's a number one quarterback
right now in yardage touchdown to
interception I think he's number one or
number two in that but they're three and
five and they're not the way they're
playing right now they're not going to
do anything major now in NFL you could
still make it to the playoffs and you
could still be formidable later on it's
all about momentum but one could watch a
game and it could say well the
differentiator in 2024 is XYZ it's the
running game as is NBA Cleveland Cavs
are off to a 120 record it doesn't
matter when it comes on to the pla in
politics right now a lot of events
happened last 12 months I remember a
year and a half ago I'm bringing guests
here and we're having different
conversations and a lot of people were
still DeSantis they were even
uncomfortable to be Pro Trump I would go
to events and guys were kind of like
whoa you got to be comfortable you know
don't be too Pro Trump because you're
even losing the conservative vote this
was about a year and a half two years
ago that was happening you have to kind
of be like ah relax a little bit when
you're being to to to yeah in primary
mod bring it down a little bit right but
then in the last 12 months specifically
if this is a sport in the last 12 months
to both of you guys what would you say
were the defining moment where it
flipped and by the way I'm not expect I
I'd like to see one from both of you
guys but also reasons for example
Bobby's
walkout okay we hosted that event I
remember that that was uh that was
turning I remember was it an a fist or
was it a no but come on if you see those
kind of kind of pyrot Technics you know
who your ab is insane yeah so but but
that that that's that's that's that just
come X neilo that's well you you you
come on Pat you know that's a turning
you realize we've been in the business
of doing events for a while and I would
expect nothing less from a guy like you
I've been at your event I see you in the
back the guy works like 247 at his event
running the whole show he's phenomenal
but Bobby coming out that Alliance Tulsi
musk coming out musk's 2.1 billion
impression on X Rogan's
podcast assassination attempt all the
the younger voter going out there
getting the Tik Tock folks if you were
to say a few of the events in 2024 that
led to Trump making the greatest
comeback of all time what would you say
that was I I I I have to pick a couple
uh the first of which was Elon musk's
purchasing of
Twitter and and I believe that for many
reasons because it allowed for you put
that as one yes I I think I agree I
think I agree I do I do and the reason
being is that you saw a national popular
vote tilt a certain way which is
indicative that the entire country is
consuming information differently right
this was not just a regional tilt it's
not just that Trump ran a better
campaign in Pennsylvania which he did
it's not just that we chased more votes
in Arizona which we did it's that the
whole country is consuming information
that makes them view things differently
now you could say oh because it's
inflation all that sort of but national
public polling that there was this
moment where the country started to care
more about immigration the country
started to care more about what's
happening in Ukraine public attitudes
were changing and I believe that is
because we had a platform that finally
allowed freedom of speech because all
the other ones were clamping down on it
so I think that's number one and then
number two I think it would be the
indictments of Donald Trump starting
which when the Rubicon was crossed when
Alvin Bragg indicted Donald Trump in New
York for this ridiculous just concocted
pile of garbage that no one could
explain and Donald Trump was then viewed
correctly as a martyr by his supporters
and a sympathetic figure to the people
who couldn't afford groceries and for a
a regular person the equation of the
formula was built I can't afford stuff
that I used to and the guy I've been
told to hate is now facing prison time
that that doesn't make sense to me and
so then what happened is that regular
everyday people would go turn on the
networks they say Okay help me
understand this MSNBC help me cuz a lot
of people would give the benefit of the
doubt they said okay and they heard
nothing but he's a Nazi he's a threat to
democracy and he must be locked up and
regular people didn't buy that and then
where did they go pbd X to Twitter and
they saw a different story and so I
could keep on going and then finally the
day what day did Elon Musk endorsed
Donald Trump July 13th the day that
Donald Trump got shot in Butler
Pennsylvania and I I the hand of God was
on Donald Trump I really do I believe
that it was one it was one millimeter
that you know saved his life but then
Elon Musk going all in you know this I
mean I I I I'm read elon's book The
Walter isacson W it's unbelievable he
he's like a laser beam when Tesla's not
hitting its objectives he sleeps on the
floor of the Tesla fact the Giga Factory
until it's done if the Rockets aren't
getting up on time he dedicates his
whole life if he wants Donald Trump to
go to the White House what did he do he
lived in Pennsylvania for 45 days
straight and dedicated his fortune his
time his energy like a laser beam
nothing else mattered and when you had
that kind of focus from obviously the
highest capacity person on the planet
coupled with Donald Trump you're you're
talking about a a force multiplier the
likes of which that literally in my
opinion saved civilization Chris what
would you say I like the phrase uh Force
multiplier uh that's absolutely what
social media is I agree with your
analysis about people
uh using social media as much as any
media now uh now there's a problem with
that because social media is not as
reliable uh on a lot of levels um
Independent Media uh depends on the
outlet uh what the vetting is what the
structure is but yes that was a big
factor the social media component of the
dialogue is very important um Chris
Wallace leaving CNN to go start a
podcast and like people saying oh this
is a watershed moment well no it is
depends what he does with his podcast by
way he's probably not going to do very
well but I'm saying right because it
could Fade Into because what it has done
very well well Fringe and dissenting
voices have done very well in that space
Fringe don't as a pejorative not as a
pejorative uh people on the outside of
the spectrum of thought correct um
non-main Party People yes okay so what
do I think if I had to pick it and I get
why you mitigate it cuz it's more than
this but if I have to pick a pivot point
it was the inflation narrative because
what happened was the left got caught in
a space of trying to convince you that
you weren't paying more for things and
that that wasn't really a problem and
that's a very tricky space I would have
a famous conservative come on every week
named Bill O'Reilly and his analysis
would would begin and end with the gas
pump and the grocery store and I say
yeah but what about that he said
gas is higher than it
was groceries are higher rent mortgage
higher there's your nut that's your nut
and we haven't even included uh health
care costs yet which also went up so
when all of those things are worse now
and they're telling you that the guy
where they were better is the problem it
doesn't compute that's what I thought
was a big pivot point and of course
there are hundred other things that went
into it Jordan Peterson's right there
there's never a single Factor
explanation for a complex situation um
that to me but we can pinpoint causes
set in motion for sure um she they
couldn't get away from that reality
thanksgiving's around the corner
Christmas is around the corner there was
a moment that camea was uncomfortable
saying Merry Christmas she wanted to say
happy holidays Rob can you play this
clip go and play this clip for the
audience go ahead and when we all sing
Happy Tunes and sing Merry Christmas and
wish each other Merry Christmas these
children are not going to have a merry
Christmas
how dare we speak Merry Christmas how
dare we okay you can pause it right
there so guess what I want to say Merry
Christmas this Christmas very simple and
if you are confident enough to say it as
well we had a very deep deep discussion
because not everybody that works here is
Christian would say listen guys we want
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scripture in it let's see if we have an
audience for Pat I don't know if it's a
good idea and all this other stuff
that's what I stand for you want it
great you don't want it I toally get it
but if you're watching this and you want
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Rob can you show some of the stuff that
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