And then I'm asking you listeners to pray for me that I will be courageous and boldness bold enough not just to speak truth to people who would call themselves my enemies but to people who would call themselves my friends. [Music] Hey friends, welcome to the Alisa Childers podcast where it is my goal to equip Christians to identify the core beliefs of historic Christianity, discern its counterfeits, and proclaim the gospel with clarity, kindness, and truth. And today might be the most important podcast episode that I've ever recorded. And I want to ask my regular listeners to please listen to this whole podcast all the way to the end because there are some changes coming for me. Not huge changes, but I want you to be aware of where I believe God is leading my ministry. I have thought and prayed over the past several days, talked with trusted adviserss, talked with my husband, and I want to go on record uh about where we're at and where we're going. And I think that will start to crystallize and make more sense as you listen. But just want to ask my regular listeners to please listen all the way through to the end before we get into the topic of today which primarily I'm going to be talking about the Charlie Kirk Memorial and what God is doing in the world and where ultimately that's leading this ministry. I want to share a couple of announcements with you. First of all, many of you have joined us at our Unshaken Conference events. We've done several of these events with Natasha Crane and Frank Turk, which so many people in the world now know the name Frank Turk because, as many of you have discovered, Frank was with Charlie on the day he died, standing fairly close to him when he was martyed. And Frank was actually in the van with Charlie trying to resuscitate him on the way to the hospital. And if you haven't seen any of that, I really encourage you to go to Frank's various social media accounts either under crossexamined with a D or Frank Turk on Instagram. You can find some of those podcasts where he talked about that. He's been all over media outlets over the past week sharing the gospel, always bringing everything back to the gospel and the whole world has found out who Frank Turk is, which I'm delighted by. But Frank is one of my ministry um colleagues. We work together quite often and we work together on this unshaken event. And ultimately, it's our goal to go to different churches and help them find language to talk about and engage with a lot of the things that many churches are afraid to talk about. And Natasha Crane and I hosted Frank's uh radio show for him this week, which will come out on Friday. So, be looking for that. But one of the things we pointed out when we were talking about our unshaken conference is how difficult it was to find churches who were willing to come let us talk about things like critical social justice. Talk about things like transgender ideology, radical queer theory, abortion, deconstruction. These were topics that many churches that we inquired about were not willing to talk about. And I ultimately think the silence of many evangelical leaders, the silence of many pastors on topics like these has led us to the cultural moment and the great spiritual darkness that we find ourselves in in our culture today when the church is silent. Darkness has a free pass. I've shared a lot of thoughts over this past week on Instagram and YouTube, and I'm going to try to bring all those together for you today. But I really want to invite you to come out for our two upcoming Unshaken events. We're going to be on October 25th in San Kmeni, California at Calvary Chapel South OC. And then on November 8th, we're going to be at Stonebrier Community Church in Dallas, Texas. You can go to unshakenconference.com to register for those events. If you can get anywhere in the vicinity of those places, please come join us. It's a day of equipping Christians. It's joining together with like-minded Christians. And I am particularly fired up. I know Frank's fired up. I know Natasha is fired up. And we really want to help the church to begin to engage with some of these topics if they haven't already. Because as I pointed out on Instagram, the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk was not just because we couldn't come to the same table. It wasn't because we just need to learn to put our differences aside or rhetoric is polarizing or this or that like so many people are saying and well-meaning people mind you. But this is a clash of worldviews. The problem that led up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk is that half our country has been indoctrinated with the Marxist ideology of oppressed versus oppressor. Many people adopted that ideology unknowingly because they didn't understand what the end result of that ideology is. According to that ideology, the way we resolve our differences is not unity. It's not talking to each other. It's not coming to the same table. It's revolution. It's violence. Now, at the same time, we're being told that words are violence. And I'm even seeing this from otherwise faithful Christians. well-meaning Christians who have lots of influence online. I saw a post this week that said that when we overstep our boundaries with our words, when we violate the sacred space of someone else with our words, when we demand that our words be heard in certain situations, we are actually doing violence to other people. Now, I get why that's appealing. I get why that is persuasive. But friends, we have to be discerning. We have to be wiser than this. We have to be smarter than this. If words equal violence, then violence becomes a justifiable response to words. So please, I beg you, Christian, be discerning. Make sure that you are engaging ethics, politics, theology, deriving your opinions on those things from the Bible. Because if you do not do that, you will be swept up by these false worldviews that sound pretty, that sound nice, but ultimately have an end goal of violence and bloodshed. If you think I'm being too intense, if you think I'm exaggerating, I think maybe you should consider that you've been brainwashed by some of these ideas. Ali Bestki posted something on Twitter about how people were commenting how Erica Kirk forgave her killer and yet at the same time are those same people are calling for the death penalty. And what she pointed out is that if you have a problem with that, then you don't understand the biblical distinction between a civilian Christian's responsibility to forgive, to be willing to forgive, versus the government's biblical responsibility to wield the sword. These are two different things, but they work together. The Bible has something to say about politics and government and ethics. And we as Christians, I think lots of us have woken up to this over the past week, several days, to this fact that we have to apply our biblical worldview to all areas of life and not buy into the false narrative that we have to compartmentalize those things off and only talk about actual Bible verses. The Bible gives us principles that reach into all of those areas. All right, with that said, I want to share some of my experience at the memorial. I actually had the privilege of attending in person. I was actually going to go. In fact, when I found out where it was going to be, when it was going to be, and that I was available to go, I booked my hotel. I booked a rental car. And I had no idea if anybody else was going to come. I just knew I had to be there. And I was just going to stand with the general, you know, crowd waiting to get in. I just wanted to be a part of it. And I want to commend and thank Seth Gruber who texted me and asked me if I was coming and then offered me uh a seat on the floor with in his group that that he had um set aside. And so, Seth, thank you for that. It was a life-changing day for me. This whole week has been a life-changing week, I think, for many of us. I shared a couple of podcasts ago how the Lord has really convicted me of areas where I was timid, areas I and when I tell people this, they say, "Oh, but you're so bold." No, friends. I I had fear and pride that I didn't even know was in there. I had cowardice that I didn't even know was in there. And the Lord has convicted me. And that's why I want you to listen to the end because there is going to be a few changes in the way that I approach certain things like public events and and things like that. But I want to share this first. So, thank you, Seth, for inviting me to be a part. So, I got to attend with Christopher Euan and his mother, Angela, Monnique Don, and Christo Bontregger from the Center of Biblical Unity. We all drove in together and and sat together. And I want to ask you guys right now to pray for Christopher. Uh the night of the memorial, he flew home and the next morning, he had a terrible freak accident. and at the time I'm recording this is paralyzed from the neck down and possibly at this very moment in surgery. Um the doctors I believe are I think it could go either way. They're hopeful. The biggest thing we're praying right now is that this will not be permanent. I have been praying for Christopher since I found out. I want to invite you to pray for Christopher. Maybe we'll have more updates by the time this podcast comes out, but either way, he needs a ton of prayer. His mom needs a ton of prayer. Lift Christopher up in your prayers, please. But we all attended together and we were all staying at the same hotel. We got an Uber together. We had a wonderful Uber driver named Eric. Pray for Eric when you think about him. We he he did a fantastic job. Got us there. And then we had to walk for what felt like a long time to get through the specific door we were supposed to go in. And then we were on the floor and it was just amazing. There were hundreds of thousands of people around the arena. There was a deep sense of hope and joy that you could almost just feel. There was politeness. People were being kind. It was more diverse than the secular media will probably report. And there was a real likemindedness among the people. And there was some undeniable facts about the day. And this is ultimately what I want to talk with you about today. I'm going to share with you five undeniable facts that happened during the day. And then I'm going to spend a little bit of time unpacking how I'm thinking about those facts and how we kind of pull it all together theologically. But before I do that, I want to tell you about our first sponsor for today, and that is 7 Weeks Coffee. 7 Weeks Coffee is America's pro-life coffee company, and they're on a mission to fund the pro-life movement, one cup of coffee at a time. They've just hit an amazing milestone. Over $1 million donated to the pro-life movement. Here's how it works. a 7 weeks coffee. They're called that because at 7 weeks, the baby is the size of a coffee bean. And it's when the heartbeat is clearly detected on an ultrasound, which is why they give 10% of every sale to support pregnancy care centers across the country. 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Number two, God is doing something significant in the hearts of people. Number three, there was a mixed bag of people there. There were false teachers. There were opportunists, people with wrong motives, mal intent, people attracted to the power. That's a fact. We're going to talk about that. Number four, there was some really bad theology spoken from the platform. We're going to unpack it. Number five, there was some really good theology spoken from the platform. So, let's drill down into this point. Number one, the gospel was preached to the whole world by several people with boldness and with clarity. This is my overall takeaway. This is what I held in my heart as I went home. That's what I've been thinking about this whole time. Think about the impact of one life, Charlie Kirk, that led to I was joking with a friend, even the non-Christians were preaching the gospel at the Charlie Kirk memorial. even maybe Christians, people that didn't really have all their theological ducks in a row. So many people kept bringing it back to Jesus Christ and repent and the gospel was preached to people around the globe. I I last numbers I heard was a 100 million people heard the gospel and I just rejoice. That is my main takeaway and that is the main reason I'm rejoicing over that day. I thought the example given by Erica Kirk forgiving her husband's killer was the highlight of the entire day. This was a very long day. It began with worship that happened even before I believe the live stream went on unless I don't know if they live streamed that part or not. But there were uh worship leaders Brandon Lake Carrie Job and uh Corey I can't remember the other guy's name but um so that was all going on and even Okay. So so we're going to begin to get into how I'm processing all of this. I have been a very strong vocal opponent of the New Apostolic Reformation and I will continue to be. So don't think that because what I'm about to say is positive that I'm not still deeply concerned about that movement infiltrating something beautiful that God is trying to do. I remain concerned. But with that said, what's an undeniable fact is that all three of those worship leaders really honored God. They glorified God. They brought they they directed people's attention to God. They made a distinction. One of them, I believe it was Brandon Lake, even made the distinction that Jesus will save you if. There was an if you trust in him. It wasn't universalism. It wasn't progressive Christianity. So, I praise God that that happened. I'm seeing posts from people who have never listened to Christian music in their life, who have never been even curious about church, post things like, "That music was so beautiful. I I want to hear more of that music." And so I'm cautiously optimistic about that. Now, those three I looked up to see if they are affiliated with Bethl Church in Reading, which is sort of the spearhead of the New Apostolic Reformation. If you don't know what I'm talking about with that, I have several podcasts on that. In fact, just a couple weeks ago, I did a whole podcast on the disturbing theology of one of their main worship leaders. And while I believe at least two of the three, maybe all three have worked with Bethl or been affiliated in the past, they're not at this moment still affiliated with Bethl. That doesn't mean that they're not influenced by that theology. It doesn't mean that there's not reason for concern, but I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful, guys. Let's pray for them, okay? Let's pray for them. There's a huge weight on their shoulders. There's a huge weight now with all eyes on them. And I want to put Chris Tomlin in a separate category because um as far as I understand there's no affiliation with Bethl or N with Chris Tomlin. I actually toured with Chris Tomlin decades ago, 20 something years ago and um it was just super nice guy and I was very especially impressed with him. I think his set came after the live stream began. And what I so appreciated about Chris Tomlin is that he didn't draw attention to himself. He did nothing to try to tell people anything about himself. He didn't showboat. He brought honor and glory to God. You could see that he was filled with the joy of the Lord. The only thing he did say was scripture that at the name of Jesus, every knee will bow, every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord. So Chris, well done. Well done. And I think the music in particular had an important role to play. I'll be honest, you guys, my my regular followers know that I've talked about this. When there's worship sets, I go into existential angst. And I was in a bit of existential angst at the pre-worship that was going on. Um, I just do I I I get in my head about it because I came out of a very charismatic background that did a lot of worship that was very feelings and emotionbased and there was some of that going on and I was I wasn't, you know, loving it. But that's me and I don't want to let my jadedness and my cynicism cloud what God might do in someone's heart. So, I want to encourage us to not be cynical. There are a lot of us that have left N churches. a lot of spiritual abuse in those movements. And I get it and I understand why we are guarded and concerned. Um, but let's just pray. Let's pray for them. Let's pray for people. I think God is doing something in hearts. Okay. So, that's what I'll say about the music. So, the gospel was preached to the whole world by several people with boldness and with clarity. Undeniable fact number two is that God is doing something significant in the hearts of people. There is a momentum right now toward revival. Now, my longtime listeners, you know, I'm talking different than I normally. I'm I'm allergic to the word revival. I almost have come to hate that word because there are these false movements that try to manufacture revival. They hold these big rallies, these big events where they whoop everybody up into an emotional frenzy. They prophesy the same thing that they've been doing for 30 years. Revival is going to start in this place with this person and spread across the country. And of course, those prophecies never come true. But there's something different, I think, about what's happening with this. True revival will be hallmarked by repentance. True repentance. I have been skeptical of what's is called revival sometimes when it's just people sitting around in a worship service getting the feels. I'm skeptical to call that revival. I try to keep an uncynical heart toward it. If God is working on someone's heart and leading them to repent and trust in Christ, then I rejoice in that even if it's happening in that kind of a scenario. But this is different. We're seeing things all over that aren't necessarily marked by emotionalism. I saw a tweet from uh Cabbat Phillips of the Daily Wire showing how students from his area were so inspired by the events of this past week that they set up a table at the mall giving away free Bibles with a sign that invited people to come talk to them, ask them a question, let them pray for them, and they were just standing there. And I'm seeing reports of all sorts of people who you and I might have thought in our unsanctified flesh were beyond help, were beyond hope. They're posting that they're curious about Jesus now. They're coming to church for the first time. They're reaching out to their Christian friends. They're wanting to know more about the Lord. They're placing faith in Jesus. Just last week, a girl that I went to high school with reached out. This is a girl I never ever would have thought would become a Christian. Well, she's become a Christian. She's trusted in Christ. And she was asking me, "What is the best Bible? What should she read?" You guys, we have an unprecedented opportunity as the church right now to seize this moment, to get out there, disciple somebody. People are flocking to our churches. People are coming in and they're going to need disciplehip. They're going to need for us to help them. They're going to need for us to reach out to them. I I shared this on the podcast that I hosted for Frank and I'll share it with you just as an example of something that you could do. I reached out to two people this week and I invited them to study the Bible with me. I just said, "Hey, let's get a book. Let's study the Bible and we can zoom once a week or meet in person, but but let's let's do this. Maybe something like that. Maybe you can send a care package to somebody that has a Bible. maybe an apologetics book and uh something like the story of reality by Greg Kokal that will help give a kind of systematic overview of the biblical worldview in a very easy to understand way there's so much that we can do to help disciple this isn't the moment to be critical listen you know me my my followers you know me I'm very skeptical I'm always saying beware of this beware of that and that continues I remain concerned because I'm going to get to that in with the next point but my point is let's sees this moment. This is what I posted on Instagram and Twitter. And this is my call to pastors. Pastors, I beg you, preach the word of God boldly and with clarity. Quit pandering to culture. Be free of the fear of man. Be filled with the fear of God. Say what needs to be said. Get fired if you have to. People flocking to our churches don't need rock concerts, flashy video bumpers, spineless pep talks, standup comedy routines, or vague principles that they have no idea how to apply. They don't need information on how to live a good life. They need to be born again, filled with the Holy Spirit, and transformed into the image of Christ. They need strong Christian community to walk with them, disciple them, pray with them, laugh with them, cry with them, and support them. I'm not saying that your videos, your music, overall production can't be or shouldn't be excellent. I'm saying that stuff doesn't actually matter that much in comparison to what these souls and all of us actually need. I promise you, if one person leaves because of your boldness, 10 more will fill their seat. God is bringing them to your doorstep. Oh, that every Christian pastor would understand the times and respond accordingly. And then I ended with 2 Corinthians 3:12. Since we have such a hope, we are very bold. God is doing something significant in our midst. And I know that a lot of you are really feeling that. you're really seeing that and this is the time to realize that. Now, I want to talk a little bit about revival because my dad was a part of the Jesus Revolution revival that took place in the early '7s. He was a drugged out hippie that walked through the doors of a church and wanted to know what all this Jesus stuff was about. And he ultimately ended up trusting in Christ. And listen, guys, it was messy. It was really messy. There was even a cult that sprung out of that whole movement. There were people who went off into universalism. There were people who were snatched away by the prosperity gospel. There was so much going on. It was very messy. There were even my parents told me about this one group that was baptizing people naked in the river. And you know, they had to tell them, well, you know, we should probably wear clothes if we do this. It was messy, you guys. And this this is going to be messy, too. We have to prepare for a little bit of messiness. The people that have just trusted in Christ for the first time, when they come to your church, they might be stepping out in the sermon to smoke a cigarette and come back in. They're brand new. They're babies, guys. We have to be merciful and gracious and realize that they need disciplehip. They need to be brought along. Um and and maybe the cigarette isn't the biggest issue right now. There are going to be people coming into our churches, this is very important, that bear the scars of irreversible damage done to their bodies from radical queer theory and the radical transgender ideologies. There are a lot of people who have been caught up in that lie that are going to be coming into our churches. Don't judge them. Love them. Welcome them. preach the truth to them because it's the truth that will set them free. But realize that maybe they've trusted in Christ, but they might still look like their old self. You know, my dad tells this story when he was a hippie, how, you know, he still now obviously you can look like a hippie and be a Christian. There's nothing wrong with that. But he giggled at the story of an old lady who came up to him and she said, "I'm so glad Jesus cleaned you up on the inside. I can't wait for him to clean you up on the outside." You know, that early movement in Calvary Chapel was really a mix of real conservative, buttoned up suit and tie people and then these barefoot hippies that were walking in. That was really shocking. They they didn't know what to do with that. There's going to be people coming in that might look different than your Sunday morning typically looks. Welcome them. Realize that that we need to love them and reach out to them. Okay, enough about that. Let me tell you about our second sponsor. That's good. 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You're going to get a free add-on for the life of your subscription, plus $40 off when you subscribe using my code Alisa. So again, go to goodranchers.com, use my code Alisa for that $40 off and that free add-on for life. So okay, yeah, it's going to be messy. All right, now let's come to number three. Now, undeniable fact, there was a mixed bag of people at this memorial. I mean, I saw NAR prophets. I saw high up people in what I believe is a very dangerous movement, the deliverance movement. Um, there were people that I know for a fact are opportunists. I know there are people that were there with wrong motives, with mal intent. Guys, any time something really sweet and pure and good and beautiful happens, lots of people are going to be drawn to it. I want to draw your attention to a couple of scriptures where this was the case. So, do you remember when Jesus was performing miracles, right? He was known for this. And during his trial, after he was arrested, the Bible talks about Herod. Jesus was going to be sent to Herod for uh him to be questioned. And here's what it says. And this is um oh, I didn't write down. This is from the Gospel of Luke. It says, "When Herod saw Jesus, he was very glad for he had long desired to see him because he had heard about him and he was hoping to see him some sign done by him. So he questioned him at some length and he made no answer. Now I think it's interesting that Jesus didn't answer him because he knew his motives were wrong. But there's another example of this of Simon the sorcerer. It says this is from the book of Acts I believe where Simon the sorcerer offered to pay the apostles money to have the gifts that they had. It says, "Now when Simon saw that the spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles hands, he offered them money, saying, give me this power also so that anyone on whom I lay my hands might receive the Holy Spirit." But Peter said to him, "May your silver and per and sorry, may your silver perish with you because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money." And what's so interesting is, think about this. The the Holy Spirit being given was real. That was the real thing. But there was this opportunist that was wanting to pay money to have that same power. He wanted the power to be able to do that. And I think there's a little bit of that going on. There's a little bit of that in this sort of potential revival that we see happening. So there was a mixed bag of people there. There truly was. It's undeniable. Number four, there was some really bad theology from the platform. And part of this is like I was sitting next to Christopher Yuan the whole time and we would kind of giggle like when somebody would say something that sounded almost like universalism. We would just be like, "Not so much. Not so much." Um, but at the same time, let's not let our hearts grow cynical. I think people genuinely were trying to honor Charlie by talking about God and talking about the gospel. Uh, so here's a quote. Tulsi Gabbard, bless her. God. I I really like her a lot. And as far as I understand, she's Buddhist, maybe. Uh and and she said this. She said, "Take shelter in God. Draw strength and fearlessness from the Lord. He sits within every one of our hearts just waiting for us to choose him. To say as Charlie did, God, use me for your will." Now, look, I think this was so well intended. I think she really meant this to honor uh Charlie. But let's talk about the theology of this, right? God is not sitting within every one of our hearts. That would be pentheism. Pentheism teaches that when God created the universe, he poured his spirit into all created matter. Kind of filling it like a hand fills a glove. Whereas the Bible teaches that God is omnipresent. He's everywhere all at the same time. And the reason he's everywhere all at the same time is because he is spirit. God is spirit. He doesn't have a physical body, meaning he's not contained by physical matter. Now, I have several podcasts on pentheism if you want to go back and listen for those. I'm not trying to pick on Tulsi Gabbard. I just want to say, look, it's possible to be in an audience and say, "Oh, I appreciated what that person said. I disagree with what that person said." And so, I just wanted to point that out. There there are a lot of people that maybe even are on the right track that have bad theology that we want to have be gracious toward because they're learning and that's going to be the case. I think that's the case maybe with Tulsi. Pray for her. Pray that all of this will lead to her salvation. Pray that all of this will lead to Trump's salvation. It was very obvious from his speech that he is not a Christian. He pointed out that Charlie was the better man. You know, he kind of made this joke where he said, you know, Charlie or Erica just forgave the man who killed her husband. He goes, "Charlie was a better man. He would want me to forgive, but I don't. I I I hate those guys. I hate my enemies." I mean, that was Trump saying like, "Charlie was the better man. Be like Charlie, right? So, pray for Trump. Pray that Trump will be convicted of his sin. Turn from his sin and trust in Christ." So undeniable fact number four, there was some really bad theology spoken from the platform. But number five, there was some really good theology spoken from the platform. My colleague Frank Turk brought the white hot gospel heat. If you haven't seen his speech from Charlie's memorial, go listen to it. He covered the gospel. He covered penal substitutionary atonement. He covered imparted righteousness. He covered justification by grace through faith alone and it was beautiful. I thought Rob McCoy did a really good job of proclaiming the gospel and even inviting people to stand to take a public stand. And I don't know what it looked like on the live stream, but there were a lot of people who stood up. You guys, if nothing else, all of us as Christians should be absolutely rejoicing that people like Donald Trump, Elon Musk, the entire Daily Wirecast, Ben Shapiro, trying to think who else was there. They heard the gospel on top of a hundred million people watching on the live stream. They heard the gospel. They were preached to. They know the truth. This is amazing. This is an absolutely amazing thing that has happened. And I think we're seeing the ramifications, the ripple effect that's happening all over the globe. So overall, I am incredibly optimistic. I am hopeful. I am not letting my guard down with discernment. And that's what I'm going to talk about next. 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Bring this into your home or your church. Make this a part of your disciplehip. Go to foundationworldview.com. Use my code Alisa. All right. As as I close out today, I want to share what's next with this ministry. In the past, I have approached public events in a very specific way. I have approached them from a very guarded place and I believe that was right up until now. I I just I'm not actually going to go back and say what I did was wrong because I think I was being to the best of my ability applying my principles to how I work out public events. So there were many public events that I declined because there was going to be on the platform somebody that I believed was a false teacher or somebody that was in error enough that it would lead somebody astray to see my picture next to them. And that was my conviction and that was I think right and I've talked about this with my husband and we talked this through even last night. It was right uh for me in that moment because there's not this is where you have to take biblical principles and apply them out and then there's a measure of personal conviction. I talked with even several pastors and I got mixed reviews. Like I asked one pastor that I very much respect, "Should I do events if there's a false teacher platformed?" And one pastor that I very much respect said, "Yes, anywhere you can go, as long as they'll let you say whatever you want to say, do it." And I've had other pastors say, "No, I think it's wise to not be platformed next to somebody like that because that could be misleading to the people you're trying to help discern the times." And so up until now that has been my view. But again I think this is in the area of personal conscience. So there are going to be people in the discernment space that disagree with me. And listen, I get it and I respect it. I do. But my view on this has changed. And I'm I want to do my best to articulate why it has changed. The moment that we're in right now, people's hearts are soft. They want the Lord. They're searching for meaning. They see the darkness of our culture. They are drawn to the light. Not everybody, but many are drawn to the light. And I'm of the mindset right now that I don't want to abandon them to the false teachers. So, here's a perfect example. TPUSA just released their college tour schedule and a lot of people are rightly concerned that on the list of people who are going to be going to colleges to be on the mic in these events, there are maybe two evangelical Christians. You have Hindus, you have Catholics, you have people who I don't even know what their worldview is. Maybe they're agnostic, maybe they're atheist. And so here are my thoughts on that. First of all, TPUSA as a broad entity is not a Christian entity. It's a secular entity that is trying to save America. I as a Christian want to save America. So I think what TPUSA, even broad TPUSA is doing is a good thing. And under the secular banner of hey, let's pull our resources to try to save our country from the radical leftist ideology, I'm on board with that. So, but at the same time, if I'm not saying I don't know that I would have this opportunity, but if I did have the opportunity to go with TPUSA, for example, to one of these colleges and I had the opportunity to get on a microphone with a lost kid and I could tell them about Jesus and share with them truth and shine light into the darkness. Why would I not do that? Why would I abandon them to the atheists, to the people who maybe only have the goal of saving America? I want to save America, but I want to save that kid. And I think that's what Charlie was trying to do. He was trying to save our kids. And so, you might see my name on something. I'm not saying it would be that. I don't know if I'm big time enough for that. I would love to do it, but you might see my name on something like that. But I want to go on record and explain why you're going to see my name on something like that. Now, there's this more narrow category of TPUSA faith. And TPUSA faith is a Christian entity. That is the one that is going to be equipping pastors. And that's the one I've actually honestly had more of a conflict with because they platformed in the past at least people who deny the deity of Jesus, atheists. N they are quote unquote prophets. And I'm very conflicted about that because it's under the banner of Christianity. But at this time, I I really want you to hear my heart on this. I want to try to change the minds of as many people as I possibly can. So, if there's an opportunity for me to be a force for good in that organization, I want to be open to that. So, here is my where I'm landing what I've decided with the full agreement of my husband and my trusted advisors. I'm going to be doing events that I wouldn't have done before if and only if I can say whatever I want from the platform. And then I'm asking you listeners to pray for me that I will be courageous and boldness bold enough not just to speak truth to people who would call themselves my enemies but to people who would call themselves my friends. That can be harder. I want to go on record and as saying that if you see my name on a poster with somebody who is a false teacher, that does not mean that I'm promoting them or advocating for their views. In fact, I'm praying for the courage to be able to speak truth from the platform about that very thing. Let's clean it up. Let's do what we can. But we can't abandon the hungry world to the atheists and the Buddhists and the people that are trying to save our country from a secular perspective. We got to get in there. And that is where my conviction is leading me as of now. Please pray for me. If you disagree with me, pray for me. You're going to be seeing a lot of people rightly concerned about some of the names that are being seen together. Just like the the revival that happened around the my dad's era was messy. This is going to be messy. But I vow to do my absolute best to keep my nose in my Bible, to be bold and courageous to speak truth to my enemies and my friends. And by God's grace, we can have some impact. Listen, as a Christian, I want to save my country, but that is not my primary goal. I want to save souls. I want to save souls. And there is a moment in time right now where people are hungry. They want it. And I don't want to abandon them. So that's where I'm at. Again, I'll ask you to pray for me. And let's remember as we pursue Christ to keep a sharp mind, a soft heart, and a thick skin. [Applause] [Music] for you. No turning right or left. We'll make it through the road that's narrow and the gate that small. Don't give up. It's going to be worth it all. [Music]
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