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Bill O'Reilly Confronts Evil: Charlie Kirk's Assassination and the Battle for America's Soul
Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck to discuss his haunting new book Confronting Evil and the assassination of Charlie Kirk. O'Reilly draws chilling parallels between today's rise in evil and the 1930s era of Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo. The conversation explores Kirk's legacy as a young champion of traditional American values and Judeo-Christian philosophy, Putin's dangerous transformation into an uncontrolled psychopath, and the imminent collapse of corporate media that invested everything in hating Donald Trump. O'Reilly predicts a ferocious backlash against the progressive left and explains why evil always destroys itself, though it takes countless innocents with it. This frank discussion reveals how one man's dedication to truth and God can spark a movement that changes everything.
The Rise of Evil in Modern Times
Bill O'Reilly explains that about a year ago, he identified a disturbing trend that became the foundation for his latest book. He recognized a rise in evil not seen since the 1930s, when figures like Tojo, Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco plunged the world into a conflict that killed 100 million people in World War II. While not yet at that extreme extent, O'Reilly saw the same pattern bubbling both in the world and within the United States.
His book, Confronting Evil, was released on a Tuesday. The very next day, Putin launched missiles into Poland in an ultra-dangerous escalation, and hours later, Charlie Kirk was assassinated. When an interviewer described the timing as "haunting," O'Reilly agreed completely. That's what evil does—it haunts, it spreads, and it destroys.
America's Distraction Problem
O'Reilly observes that Americans have become dangerously distracted by social media, the bubbles people create around their own lives, sports, and endless entertainment. These distractions cause people to look away from the real threats facing the nation and the world. The ability to retreat into a comfortable, personalized reality has never been easier, and it's preventing people from confronting the evil that operates openly in society.
Charlie Kirk's Remarkable Legacy
Charlie Kirk stood out as an exceptional figure because at a very young age, he possessed the maturity to understand that he wanted to take a stand for traditional America and Judeo-Christian philosophy. O'Reilly points out that at age 31, he himself was "lucky he wasn't in the penitentiary," and jokingly suggests Glenn Beck actually was. Kirk was light years ahead, demonstrating the true spirit of America—having a belief system and promoting it for the greater good of the country.
Most good people, even those who occasionally disagreed with Kirk's positions, admired his commitment. There was nothing else to it—Charlie Kirk did what he believed was right, and he lost his life doing it. When you strip away the emotion and look at the facts, O'Reilly sees Kirk's death as another apparent victory for evil, but emphasizes that it really isn't.
How Evil Destroys Itself
O'Reilly's research for Confronting Evil revealed a consistent pattern: all heinous individuals—Putin, Mao, Hitler, Ayatollah Khomeini, and the 14 others profiled in his book—ultimately destroy themselves. Evil always self-destructs, but the tragedy is that it takes so many people down with it.
The shooter who killed Charlie Kirk didn't just destroy Kirk and his family. He destroyed his own mother, father, and two brothers. That's how evil spreads—in concentric circles of devastation. O'Reilly spoke with Donald Trump about this at Yankee Stadium, noting that Trump is "a much different guy than most people think" and understanding the profound impact of this senseless violence.
The Coming Backlash
If Americans pay attention and grasp the destructive nature of evil, it will become much more difficult for evil to operate openly. O'Reilly predicts a ferocious backlash against the progressive left in particular, and believes this backlash will be Charlie Kirk's enduring legacy.
When Glenn Beck asks whether one assassination is enough to wake people up—noting that it took three or four assassinations in the 1960s before the Jesus revolution occurred—O'Reilly acknowledges that some people will never wake up. They simply don't want to live in the real world, and with social media, phones, and computers, it's never been easier to avoid reality. But you don't need everyone. You just need enough people who are willing to see clearly and act.
The Collapse of Corporate Media
O'Reilly declares that corporate media is finished in America. It's over, and this will play out completely within the next five years. The corporate media invested so much of its credibility into hating Donald Trump that it destroyed itself. Hate was the key word, and it proved fatal.
For the first time in 10 years, O'Reilly was invited to do a major interview on CBS with Major Garrett. This only happened because SkyDance bought CBS, and SkyDance understands that the CBS brand is over and needs complete rehabilitation. The company is owned by Larry Ellison—the second richest person in the world and owner of Lanai in Hawaii—with his son running operations. Unlike the previous management, they're not ideological, but they were appalled at the deterioration of network presentations.
NBC hasn't reached this conclusion yet, but it will have to. ABC just focuses on weather reports—"it's snowing in Montana." The cable networks are all finished. Even Fox News, once Trump leaves the political stage, has nowhere to go because they've invested so heavily in Trump coverage.
This collapse takes a huge weapon out of the hands of the progressive movement, which was completely dependent on corporate media to advance its cause. That era is ending.
The Next Generation Has Already Left
O'Reilly notes that his daughter, 26, and son, 22, never watch network television. Glenn Beck confirms the same with his children. They're not going to watch The Voice, Dancing with the Stars, or any juggling competitions. The audience has already moved on.
The networks banished sane voices with huge followings—people like Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly. They couldn't get on air. Stephen Colbert got fired because he refused to put any non-progressive voice on his show when discussing the country. He simply censored opposing viewpoints. But he wasn't fired for censorship per se—he was fired because that approach led to horrible ratings. His defiance toward the people signing his paycheck was ultimately his undoing. Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel also have terrible ratings, but Colbert was particularly in-your-face about it.
Evil Requires Power Structures
Evil can only exist if the mechanisms of power are behind it. In Confronting Evil, O'Reilly examines this principle through individual case studies. The chapter on Putin is by far the most important because, in O'Reilly's opinion, Putin would use nuclear weapons. He's a psychopath, and he would actually do it.
On Thursday night, O'Reilly received a call from the president's people asking if he would meet President Trump at Yankee Stadium for the 9/11 game. When a president asks you to meet him, you meet him, even if it takes three days to get into Yankee Stadium from Long Island, especially when the president is coming.
The meeting was significant. Trump values O'Reilly's opinion, and they discussed Putin and the dramatic change in him. O'Reilly had warned Trump that Putin had transformed from the first administration—when Trump controlled Putin to some extent—to being completely out of control. This pattern always happens with dictators: Hitler, Mao, the Ayatollah, Stalin. They get worse and worse and worse, and then they blow up. That's where Putin is now.
But Putin couldn't do any of this without the consent of the Russian people. They are allowing him to kill women and children. There have been a million Russian casualties. For what? For what purpose? The senselessness is staggering.
Why the Book Matters Now
Confronting Evil has taken off in sales because people finally want to understand evil. They're finally taking a hard look at it, and the Charlie Kirk assassination served as an impetus for this examination. The book's timing, which one interviewer called "haunting," has proven prophetic.
The Power of Good
Glenn Beck observes that Charlie Kirk wasn't just a neutral character—he was a force for good and for God. That combination resembles Martin Luther King Jr., who spoke up for civil rights while also speaking truth scripturally and advocating for God. Beck admits he wouldn't have predicted it, but that combination strangely still works in America. And he believes it's changed everything.
O'Reilly's message is clear: evil destroys itself, corporate media that enabled evil is collapsing, and the legacy of people like Charlie Kirk—who stood for traditional values and faith—will spark the backlash needed to confront the darkness threatening America and the world.
Video Transcript
[00:00] Mr. Bill O'Reilly, welcome to the
[00:01] program. How are you, sir?
[00:03] >> Good, Beck. Thanks for having me back. I
[00:05] appreciate it. How have you been?
[00:07] >> Uh, you know, last week was really
[00:08] tough. I know it was tough for you and
[00:10] everybody else, but um, you know, it's
[00:14] just I haven't I haven't seen anything.
[00:16] >> Uh, family, okay? All of that. I
[00:20] >> Yes.
[00:21] >> Yeah. Family's okay. Family's okay.
[00:24] >> Good. That's the most important thing.
[00:26] >> It is. So, Bill, um, what do you make of
[00:30] this whole Charlie Kirk thing? What what
[00:32] happened and where are we headed?
[00:35] >> So, my analysis is different from
[00:37] everybody else and no surprise to you.
[00:39] You've known me for so long. Um about a
[00:43] year ago I was looking for a topic for
[00:46] because I had a contract to do another
[00:49] book and I I said you know what's
[00:52] happening in America uh and around the
[00:55] world is a rise in evil. This it takes a
[00:59] year to research and write these books.
[01:01] And not since the 1930s
[01:05] uh had I seen that happen to this
[01:08] extent. In the 1930s, of course, you had
[01:12] Tojo and Hitler and Mussolini and Franco
[01:15] and all these guys, and it led to a 100
[01:17] million dead in World War II. The same
[01:19] thing, not to the extent, but the same
[01:22] thing was bubbling
[01:24] >> in the world and in the United States.
[01:26] So, I decided to write a book,
[01:27] Confronting Evil. The book comes out
[01:28] last Tuesday. And on Wednesday, Putin
[01:31] lobs missiles into Poland, ultra
[01:35] dangerous. And a few hours later,
[01:37] Charlie Kirk is assassinated. And one of
[01:40] the interviewers uh said to me last
[01:43] week, "It your your book is haunting
[01:47] is haunting."
[01:49] And I think that's extremely accurate
[01:52] because that's what evil does.
[01:56] And in the United States, we have so
[01:58] many distractions.
[02:00] uh the social media, the bubble pit
[02:02] people create around their own lives,
[02:04] sports, whatever it may be that we look
[02:08] away.
[02:10] Now Charlie Kirk was an interesting uh
[02:12] fellow because at a very young age uh he
[02:16] was mature enough to understand that he
[02:19] wanted
[02:21] to take a stand
[02:24] in favor of traditional America and
[02:28] Judeo Christian philosophy.
[02:31] He decided that he wanted to do that
[02:34] way. you know, when I was 31 or
[02:36] whatever, I was lucky I wasn't in the
[02:38] penitentiary. And I believe you were in
[02:39] the penitentiary.
[02:41] >> Okay. So, he was light years ahead of
[02:45] us.
[02:46] >> Yes.
[02:47] >> And and he put it into motion.
[02:49] >> All right. Now, most good people, even
[02:52] if you disagree
[02:55] with what Mr. Kirk says on occasion, you
[02:59] admire that. That's the spirit of
[03:02] America. That you have a belief system
[03:05] that you go out and try to promote that
[03:08] belief system for the greater good of
[03:11] the country. That's what it is. There's
[03:13] nothing else to it. That's what Charlie
[03:16] Kirk did.
[03:18] And he lost his life by doing it.
[03:22] So when you essentially break all of
[03:24] this down, you take the emotion away,
[03:27] all right, which I have to do in my job,
[03:31] you see it as another victory for evil,
[03:36] but it really isn't. And this is the
[03:39] ongoing story. This is the most
[03:42] important story.
[03:44] So when you read my book, Confronting
[03:45] Evil, you'll see that all of these
[03:48] heinous individuals, Putin's on a cover,
[03:50] Ma, Hitler, uh, Ayatollah Homi, and then
[03:55] there are 14 others inside the book.
[03:57] They all destroy themselves.
[04:00] The evil always destroys itself, but it
[04:03] takes so many people with it.
[04:07] So, this shooter destroyed his own
[04:10] family
[04:12] and and Donald Trump uh I talked to him
[04:15] about it last week at Yankee Stadium and
[04:18] and Trump is a much different guy than
[04:20] most people think. Um,
[04:22] >> he destroyed his own mother and father
[04:24] and his two brothers.
[04:27] >> That's what this killer did in addition
[04:28] to the Kirk family.
[04:31] So, evil spreads
[04:34] now.
[04:36] If Americans pay attention and come to
[04:40] the conclusion that I just stated, it
[04:42] will be much more difficult for evil to
[04:45] operate openly. And that's what I think
[04:48] is going to happen. There's going to be
[04:50] a ferocious backlash against the
[04:53] progressive left in particular
[04:57] to stop it.
[05:00] And I believe that is what Mr. Kirk's
[05:03] legacy is going to be.
[05:06] I I agree with you on on all of these
[05:09] fronts. Um I wonder though, you know, it
[05:13] took three or if you count JFK, four
[05:16] assassinations in the60s
[05:19] um to confront the evil, if you will,
[05:23] before people really woke up and said
[05:26] enough is enough. And then you got the
[05:27] big Jesus revolution after that. Is I
[05:31] hate to say this, but is with as far
[05:35] gone as we are, is one assassination
[05:37] enough to wake people up?
[05:40] >> Some people
[05:42] some people are never going to wake up.
[05:43] They just don't want to live in the real
[05:46] world, Beck. And it's never been easier
[05:49] to do that with the social media and the
[05:51] phones and the computers. And you're
[05:53] never going to get them back, but you
[05:55] don't need them.
[05:57] So, let's just be very realistic here in
[06:00] the Glen Beck show. Let's run it down.
[06:05] The corporate media is finished
[06:08] in America. It's over.
[06:12] And you will see that play out in the
[06:14] next 5 years
[06:16] because the corporate media invested so
[06:19] much of its credibility into hating
[06:22] Donald Trump.
[06:24] And the hate is the is the key word.
[06:27] You'll find this interesting, Beck. For
[06:29] the first time in 10 years, I've been
[06:33] invited to do a major thing on CBS
[06:36] today. I'm going to do it today
[06:38] >> with Major Garrett.
[06:41] Now, that only happened because Sky
[06:44] Dance bought CBS. And Sky Dance
[06:47] understands the brand CBS is over and
[06:51] they're they're going to have to
[06:53] rehabilitate the whole thing. NBC has
[06:56] not come to that conclusion yet.
[06:58] >> No,
[06:58] >> but it will have to. And ABC just does
[07:00] the weather. I mean, that's all they
[07:02] care about is it's snowing in Montana.
[07:05] >> Okay.
[07:07] >> The cables are all finished. even Fox
[07:10] once once Trump leaves the stage
[07:14] there's nowhere for FNC to go because
[07:17] they've invested so much in Trump Trump
[07:20] Trump.
[07:22] So the fact of the matter is the
[07:25] corporate media is over in America. That
[07:27] takes a huge cudgel out of the hands of
[07:31] the progressive movement because the
[07:34] progressive movement was dependent
[07:38] on the corporate media to advance its
[07:41] cause.
[07:42] That's going to end, Beck.
[07:47] >> Well, I would hope that you're right.
[07:48] Let me ask you about
[07:50] >> When have I been wrong?
[07:52] >> When have I been wrong? Well, you've
[07:54] known me for 55 years.
[07:57] Where am I wrong?
[07:59] >> Okay. Okay. All right. All right. All
[08:00] right. We're not here to argue things
[08:01] like that. Um, so uh um tell me about
[08:05] Sky Dance because isn't Sky Dance
[08:08] Chinese?
[08:09] >> No, it's uh Ellison, Larry Ellison,
[08:14] uh the second richest guy in the world.
[08:16] He owns uh Lai in Hawaii.
[08:19] Uh the big tech guy and his son's
[08:21] running it.
[08:23] >> Yeah. Okay. I thought Sky Dance I
[08:24] thought that was You do you know them?
[08:28] >> Yeah. And and they they're not
[08:32] ideological,
[08:34] but they were as appalled as most of us
[08:37] who pay attention at the deterioration
[08:42] of the network presentations.
[08:44] I mean,
[08:45] >> so do you think that they could
[08:48] >> 60 minutes used to be the gold standard
[08:52] >> and and and it just now that you know
[08:55] you I don't even watch anymore. You
[08:57] can't trust the word they say.
[08:59] >> I know. So, do do you think they can
[09:02] actually turn CBS around or is it just
[09:04] over?
[09:05] >> I don't know. It's very hard uh to
[09:08] predict because so many people now have
[09:12] bailed. I got uh a daughter 26 and a son
[09:16] 22.
[09:17] They never
[09:20] ever watch network television.
[09:23] >> And you got a bunch of kids too, right?
[09:25] >> Yeah. Yeah. They don't. They don't.
[09:28] >> Yeah. They're not going to watch The
[09:30] Voice, the dancing with this, the
[09:32] juggling with that. And you know, I I
[09:36] don't I think they can do a a much
[09:38] better job in their news presentations
[09:40] because
[09:41] >> Yeah. What they did uh all three
[09:44] networks is banish people like Glenn
[09:46] Beck and Bill O'Reilly
[09:49] sane voices with huge followings. Huge.
[09:54] All right. We couldn't get on there.
[09:57] That's why Co Bear got fired cuz Co Bear
[10:00] wouldn't refuse to put on any
[10:03] nonprogressive voice when they were
[10:06] talking about the country. Refuse. No.
[10:09] I'm censoring it.
[10:12] Yeah. And but it's not that he was fired
[10:14] because he wouldn't do that. He was
[10:15] fired because that led to horrible
[10:17] ratings. Horrible ratings.
[10:20] >> It was his defiance. Fallon has terrible
[10:22] ratings and so does Kimmel.
[10:24] >> But Coar was in your face. F you
[10:28] >> to the uh people who were signing his
[10:31] paycheck. Look, evil can only exist
[10:37] >> if the mechanisms of power are behind
[10:40] it. That's when you read confronting
[10:43] evil and I take them one by one. And
[10:45] Putin is the most important chapter by
[10:47] far because in my opinion Putin would
[10:51] use nuclear weapons. He would he's a
[10:55] psychopath.
[10:57] and and uh on Thursday night I I got a
[11:00] call from uh the president's people
[11:03] saying, "Would you meet uh the president
[11:04] Yankee Stadium for the 911 game?" And I,
[11:08] you know, when a president calls and
[11:10] asks you to meet him, you meet him.
[11:12] >> Sure.
[11:12] >> Okay.
[11:13] >> Right. I'll be there one time.
[11:14] >> Sure. You know, it'll take me three days
[11:17] to get into Yankee Stadium from Long
[11:19] Island, but I'll I'll start now.
[11:21] >> Especially Especially because the
[11:23] president's coming. But go ahead.
[11:26] Anyway, that was a a very uh I think
[11:30] that Mr. Trump values my opinion and and
[11:33] it was we did talk about Putin and the
[11:37] change in Putin and I had warned him
[11:40] that Putin had changed from the first
[11:43] administration where Trump controlled
[11:45] Putin to some extent. Now he's out of
[11:48] control because that's what always
[11:50] happens. It happened with Hitler. It
[11:52] happened with Mao. It happened with the
[11:54] Ayatollah. What happened with Stalin?
[11:56] Right down. Okay, they get worse and
[12:00] worse and worse and then they blow up.
[12:03] And that's where Putin is.
[12:06] But he couldn't do any of that without
[12:08] the ascent of the Russian people. They
[12:11] are allowing him to do this to kill
[12:15] women and children.
[12:17] A million Russian casualties for what?
[12:21] For what?
[12:24] Okay. So, I'm that's why this book is
[12:27] just in the stratosphere and now it's
[12:29] taken off because people want to
[12:31] understand evil. Finally, finally,
[12:35] they're taking a hard look at it. And
[12:37] the Charlie Kirk assassination
[12:40] was an impetus to do that.
[12:43] >> Yeah. And I think it's also an impetus
[12:46] to look at the good side. I I mean, I
[12:48] think Charlie was just not a neutral c a
[12:52] neutral character. He was a force for
[12:54] good um and for God. And I think that
[13:00] that combination is almost the Martin
[13:03] Luther King combination where you have a
[13:05] guy who is speaking up for civil rights
[13:07] but then also uh speaking up for God and
[13:11] speaking truth um scripturally. And uh I
[13:15] think that combination still strangely I
[13:18] wouldn't have predicted it but strangely
[13:20] still works uh here in America. And I
[13:23] think it's changed everything. Bill,
[13:25] it's always good to talk to you. Thank
[13:26] you so much for being on. I appreciate
[13:27] it. Um, it's Bill O'Reilly. The name of
[13:30] the book you don't want to miss is
[13:31] Confronting Evil. Um, and he takes all
[13:34] of these really, really bad guys down
[13:36] one by one and shows you that what
[13:38] happens if you don't do something about
[13:41] it. Confronting evil. Bill O'Reilly. And
[13:44] you can find it at billilly.com.
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