Candace Owens Condemns Erika Kirk's Decision to Share Private Charlie Kirk Footage with Andrew Wilson

[00:00] It's sick. It's disturbing. I'm so

[00:01] disturbed by it. Look, when I when I

[00:03] recognize what he was saying this

[00:05] footage was,

[00:06] that she had handed this over to him, it

[00:09] sickened me. I feel sick when I think

[00:11] about it. So, I'm done with the widow

[00:13] grift. It's expired. It's been a year

[00:15] now. It's over. I want I think Erika, in

[00:19] my opinion, is I think she's insane. I

[00:21] think there is something very wrong with

[00:22] her. She kind of scares me. There's a

[00:25] real darkness there.

[00:27] And if what I'm what I'm about to show

[00:29] you and demonstrate to you does not

[00:30] prove that to you, that there's just

[00:32] something socially and emotionally

[00:34] disturbed, then I don't think anything

[00:36] will. I really don't. And don't make

[00:38] excuses. Don't everybody grieves

[00:40] differently me today.

[00:43] Okay, so I'm going to tee this up for

[00:44] you. Let me remind you of the bizarre

[00:48] overreaction to the Fort Huachuca story

[00:51] from last December. Regard Mitch Snow, a

[00:53] man whose story I still I still, despite

[00:56] being in the middle of a lawsuit, I deem

[00:57] it to be credible. I took every measure

[01:00] that I should have taken as a journalist

[01:01] to confirm the story, to confirm what he

[01:03] said. I was very clear um that I can

[01:07] confirm where he was. I can confirm that

[01:10] this incident took place. I can confirm

[01:11] he was at Fort Huachuca. I can confirm

[01:12] which hotel he was at. But what I cannot

[01:15] confirm is his memory. He thinks he saw

[01:19] um uh you know, someone

[01:21] that to him he felt certain was Erika

[01:23] Kark. He thinks he saw Brian Harpole.

[01:25] That I I'm limited. I obviously can't

[01:27] confirm that, but I did try to. I

[01:29] reached out to Brian Harpole before I

[01:31] had Mitch Harpole before I had Mitch on

[01:32] my show and asked him for a clean

[01:34] answer. I messaged this man like five

[01:37] times. He never answered. He never

[01:39] answered and simply said, "I would have

[01:41] taken Brian Harpole's word over Mitch's

[01:44] at that time." But they got crazy. But

[01:46] this is when Erika suddenly started

[01:48] doing the PR rounds. She asked She

[01:49] asked, "Stop. Just stop." As soon as we

[01:51] mentioned Fort Huachuca, things just got

[01:54] crazy at at end of last year.

[01:57] And you know, we haven't really picked

[01:59] up that story since because we're going

[02:01] to find out stuff. We've obviously been

[02:03] collecting some other information, but I

[02:04] have a pending lawsuit, so I'm going to

[02:06] save that information for there. But

[02:08] fast forward to today, we're now what, 9

[02:11] months in a lawsuit away from having

[02:13] covered that story.

[02:15] And

[02:16] I would also like to add the fact that

[02:19] I'm very comfortable that I conducted

[02:20] myself way above board in trying to seek

[02:23] answers and get a confirmation from Ryan

[02:26] Harpole. And I'm looking forward to

[02:28] getting a real alibi through the court

[02:30] system. It's just we're going to find

[02:31] out. That's it. We are all going to find

[02:33] out about Fort Huachuca. Like it's now

[02:35] inevitable. There's a lawsuit.

[02:38] And suddenly Erica introduces us to

[02:41] Andrew Wilson over the summer.

[02:44] Our the public life we are now being

[02:45] introduced to Andrew Wilson, an

[02:48] obviously dishonest and disingenuous

[02:50] person who never cared about this case,

[02:52] who called Erica too to kill

[02:54] her husband,

[02:56] uh, regularly lambasted Turning Point

[02:58] USA for feminism and promoting these

[03:00] these these archetypes until she

[03:02] welcomed him into TPUSA headquarters.

[03:06] And then everything changed. And he

[03:07] doesn't know what's going on, but he's

[03:08] just going to get in front of Turning

[03:11] Point USA and um,

[03:13] troll the public, I guess. It's

[03:15] difficult to underscore

[03:17] how patently ghetto and trashy he and

[03:20] his wife are, okay?

[03:21] His wife had five children out of

[03:23] wedlock with three different men. This

[03:26] is just we can't pretend this is

[03:28] conservative. We can't pretend this is

[03:30] like on the anywhere near conservatism.

[03:34] They pious, religious, nothing of the

[03:36] sort. I will not have it. This is not

[03:38] Christianity. But I do want you to truly

[03:40] appreciate who these individuals are.

[03:42] You saw a lot of Andrew's character as

[03:44] he lied to my face repeatedly, lied

[03:46] about what happened 10 seconds ago. He

[03:48] does not care. He will lie. Like he's

[03:50] proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[03:52] But I do want you guys, since you didn't

[03:53] know who they were, I didn't know who

[03:54] they were, and Erica just gave them to

[03:56] us, right? I do want you to to see

[04:01] um see them. Like I I we just put

[04:03] together this little reel of them. I I I

[04:04] I find them to be truly just

[04:09] I'm I'm shocked that they're going

[04:10] further into relationship with these two

[04:12] individuals. And I have to apologize in

[04:13] advance here, because the language is

[04:15] obviously debased, but I have to paint a

[04:17] fuller picture. So, I will say, if you

[04:19] are watching this podcast, and know a

[04:21] lot of people who are underage, um do

[04:24] watch this podcast, or parents are

[04:25] watching this with their minor children,

[04:27] I would offer that now would be a good

[04:28] time for you to turn the volume down or

[04:30] off completely. Okay, here we go. This

[04:32] is just Rachel and Andrew Wilson. Here

[04:34] you go.

[04:35] >> I don't think that there's evidence to

[04:37] support that Epstein was involved in

[04:39] international uh sex blackmail

[04:42] operations. There's actually a lot of

[04:44] evidence that he was at least tied to

[04:46] intelligence agencies, which doesn't

[04:48] surprise me, because he was a banker for

[04:50] Rothschild, and he was a investment

[04:52] banker for other large uh banking

[04:55] operations. So, that wouldn't surprise

[04:57] me at all if he had intelligence links.

[04:59] Most of these guys seem to.

[05:01] Uh but I haven't seen any good

[05:02] compelling evidence that this guy was

[05:04] flying children around the world for

[05:07] other people to have sex with and then

[05:09] blackmail them. And that's where the

[05:11] mythology part comes in.

[05:12] >> Well, this is going to go viral, and a

[05:14] lot of people are going to take me

[05:15] seriously, and all they're going to

[05:16] remember is that I told you that you

[05:17] couldn't put down the Duncan Donuts long

[05:19] enough to make an argument. Now, can you

[05:21] make one or not?

[05:22] >> Oh, you know, this is schoolboy talk.

[05:25] This is schoolboy talk.

[05:27] >> down to a woman the way you do.

[05:28] >> what you think a real man

[05:30] >> man. You're actually very feminine,

[05:31] >> you think a real man is.

[05:32] >> You're you're a very feminine man.

[05:34] >> Yeah, nobody cares what you think real

[05:36] men are.

[05:36] >> Can you tell me all of the downsides of

[05:38] Donald Trump killing pedophiles in the

[05:41] Middle East?

[05:42] >> [laughter]

[05:42] >> Um first of all, do you know every

[05:45] single person Were those school girls

[05:46] pedophiles?

[05:47] >> It's institutionalized in the Iranian

[05:50] constitution.

[05:50] >> Just tell me, no, were the were the 200

[05:51] school girls pedophiles? You want to

[05:52] make sure that they're alive so they can

[05:54] get raped?

[05:55] >> You're a dyke. Don't talk about my wife,

[05:57] you stupid Shut your mouth.

[06:00] Shut your stupid mouth.

[06:02] >> Your wife with the three baby

[06:03] >> I just say, dyke?

[06:04] >> with the

[06:05] >> Sorry, doll. I'm sorry, dyke. Is she

[06:07] morally inconsequential in comparison to

[06:09] your licking?

[06:10] >> Keep shaking, Keep crying,

[06:13] BECAUSE YOU ONLY THOUGHT YOU COULD COME

[06:14] AROUND

[06:15] >> I'll shake and I'll say everything with

[06:16] the power [laughter] and vigor in my

[06:18] voice because I have strength and I'm

[06:20] NOT GOING TO I'M NOT YEAH, I'VE GOT

[06:23] OH, YOU'RE GIVING UP. YEAH.

[06:24] >> I'm not GIVING UP RIGHT NOW.

[06:26] >> MENTAL STRENGTH.

[06:27] >> HEY, you were brave

[06:29] >> Shut up, woman. Quiet.

[06:31] You what you did was you were a savage

[06:35] when I was unwilling as a man to pick

[06:38] your ass up and throw your ass out the

[06:39] window, which I can do in 5 seconds.

[06:45] >> This is TPUSA 2.0.

[06:48] Listen, that just it just you can't

[06:49] There's no defending this. There's no

[06:51] pretending it's not happening. They're

[06:53] hosting this guy. They're asking him to

[06:55] come in to teach people how to debate.

[06:58] They want access to middle schoolers,

[07:00] mandated access to middle schoolers and

[07:02] your children. This is what they're

[07:03] partnering with. You can't you you

[07:04] cannot ignore those facts.

[07:06] Charlie would have never ever ever

[07:09] welcomed Andrew Wilson into the Turning

[07:11] Point USA 1.0 fold, okay, Erica Kirk.

[07:14] It's no problem.

[07:15] Again, at the same time she's

[07:17] maintaining this I holier-than-thou

[07:19] Oh, I just can't believe what Candace is

[07:22] doing is just so horrible to be

[07:24] investigating my husband's murder

[07:27] and all the Lord the Lord will take care

[07:29] of things. And I keep telling you guys

[07:30] she's nasty behind the scenes. Erica's

[07:31] much more like this behind the scenes,

[07:34] right? She just manipulates people by

[07:35] crying and but she she's the one that's

[07:38] deploying these people. Now, fast

[07:40] forward to sometime in the wee hours of

[07:42] the morning last night cuz that's when

[07:43] Andrew is up. That's when he does his

[07:46] streams. That's when he raises money on

[07:48] his streams because he can't wake up

[07:50] early as he told me and PBD like he's

[07:53] he's a night owl. And he claims that

[07:56] he's in possession of a video that is

[07:58] going to debunk the Fort Huachuca story.

[08:00] We don't actually need that. We're in

[08:01] court. We're good. We're going to handle

[08:03] that. We I'm on top of it. Of course,

[08:05] the video he presents absolutely does no

[08:07] such thing, but that's beyond the

[08:08] relevant point here. What he presents is

[08:10] a private video of Charlie Kirk with his

[08:14] children on September 8th, a video that

[08:16] the world has never seen. Okay, he says

[08:18] Charlie is watching the Cub game with

[08:21] his children on the couch. So, I want to

[08:23] clarify that. This footage on September

[08:26] 8th, if this is actual footage from

[08:29] September 8th of Charlie on the couch

[08:30] would be potentially the last footage

[08:34] ever captured of Charlie with his

[08:35] children on Earth.

[08:37] Like I just want you to process that.

[08:39] How precious that footage would be.

[08:41] If you loved your husband and you loved

[08:43] your children and you you wouldn't even

[08:45] be able to look at this footage

[08:47] without crying. You wouldn't even be

[08:49] able to look at this footage without

[08:51] balling realizing it is the last

[08:53] potentially the last maybe she caught

[08:55] some on September 9th. Um potentially

[08:57] the last footage that you've ever

[08:59] captured of your husband with his

[09:01] children.

[09:02] You certainly would not be giving it to

[09:04] anyone.

[09:06] Least of all Andrew Wilson to troll the

[09:09] internet.

[09:10] But that's it. He does he presents this

[09:12] footage

[09:13] and I'm going to show you it.

[09:17] >> Who's paying for this, huh?

[09:18] >> 10 days.

[09:20] >> While you stay true to your dreams,

[09:21] let's stay true to you.

[09:25] >> It's the Cub Bears.

[09:27] >> Go Bears.

[09:31] >> And sorry, I said Cubs. I should have

[09:32] said Bears. And to be clear, this is

[09:34] nothing shocking about this footage.

[09:36] Erica is not beast in this footage.

[09:38] Um as I've already we've covered

[09:39] extensively, we knew that Charlie was

[09:41] home. Frank Turek was the one that told

[09:42] us initially that Charlie was home on

[09:44] the 8th watching the Bears game and then

[09:46] Charlie let us know as well because on

[09:48] his show the next day he recounted every

[09:50] minute of the Bears game. So if this is

[09:52] footage from that particular Bears game,

[09:54] this is not shocking. So I no one

[09:56] understands why she would give this

[09:59] footage out.

[10:01] No one has Erica could have just come

[10:03] out and given a clean statement herself

[10:05] if she wanted to present this as some

[10:07] sort of evidence which it wouldn't be.

[10:09] Um she could do it herself.

[10:12] She could she could literally go on to

[10:14] Charlie Kirk's platform which used to be

[10:16] a respectful platform. It isn't anymore

[10:17] obviously.

[10:19] And she could say, "Here's footage that

[10:21] I want to show you of my husband, my

[10:22] late husband who I love so much. This I

[10:24] can't even look at this footage. It

[10:25] brings tears to my eyes. But I wanted to

[10:27] show it to you because I wrongly think

[10:29] it debunks Fort Huachuca, whatever." Or

[10:32] maybe just presenting the footage in

[10:33] general to the public because it's the

[10:36] captured footage of your husband at home

[10:37] as Andrew Wilson is claiming not her by

[10:40] the way. We never get these official

[10:41] statements from Andrew Kolb, who is the

[10:44] official spokesperson for Turning Point

[10:45] USA. They basically try to send it in a

[10:49] direction that's not exactly legally

[10:52] clear. He can lie. Andrew Wilson can lie

[10:53] about everything. He has no official

[10:55] ties to Turning Point USA. He can

[10:56] present things to the public. He's just

[10:57] a chaos agent. And they can plausibly

[11:00] deny it in a courtroom. They can say,

[11:01] "Oh, well we are He does not He's not an

[11:03] official spokesperson for Turning Point

[11:04] USA. This is not what Erica told him

[11:07] when she sent him the footage. He's

[11:08] lying and he's happy to be that person

[11:10] for them."

[11:11] But I just want to talk about the

[11:13] lack of dignity

[11:16] and respect given to Charlie's memory.

[11:18] Okay, beyond this point no one will ever

[11:20] convince me that Erica left her husband.

[11:21] There's there's no way. I could not go

[11:24] through footage as his friend.

[11:27] I could not go through or watch footage

[11:29] of me and Charlie.

[11:30] It it hurt me. It It hurt me. It brought

[11:33] tears to my eyes. It It was not

[11:35] something that I could do. The idea

[11:38] of losing your husband in such a public

[11:41] way.

[11:42] Okay?

[11:44] Finding, having in your possession

[11:47] footage, which she never mentioned to me

[11:49] when I politely asked her when things

[11:51] were good about where she whereabouts

[11:54] were on September 8th. She never said,

[11:55] "Oh, I have footage of me. I was She

[11:57] never mentioned the Bears game. She

[11:58] never said that she recorded Charlie

[12:01] with the children. This is all a brand

[12:02] new narrative. Okay? Which is different

[12:05] from what she told me.

[12:07] When they were publicly saying Candace

[12:09] was his friend, we're going to go sit

[12:10] down with her. We're going to have his

[12:11] pub. Nobody mentioned Erica recording

[12:14] Bears footage of Charlie with the kids.

[12:16] I will say that. In fact, we were told

[12:18] he was with the nanny. Like the nanny

[12:21] Nanny's babysitters capture footage of

[12:22] your kids the whole time. Maybe she's

[12:24] sending it to Erica. Who knows?

[12:26] Why wouldn't Erica mention that to me?

[12:27] And if she really wanted the footage

[12:29] out, why not give to somebody more

[12:30] respectable?

[12:31] You have zero

[12:34] respect for Charlie or your children, by

[12:37] the way.

[12:38] Or his legacy.

[12:39] To give that footage, that what should

[12:43] be precious footage.

[12:45] Okay? Precious footage.

[12:48] To an internet troll.

[12:50] A chain-smoking internet troll and his

[12:51] trash wife for the purposes of trolling

[12:54] the internet only to confuse matters.

[12:57] This is not a debunk of anything.

[12:58] Nothing at all. And you don't need to If

[13:01] you want to debunk things, go to this

[13:02] man.

[13:04] You can go to her cousin. He's your

[13:05] friend. You could go to Megyn Kelly.

[13:06] She's your friend. You could go to the

[13:08] Daily Mail. You've proven they're your

[13:09] friend. You can go to Cash Patel. You

[13:11] could have the president of the United

[13:13] States, who's your friend,

[13:16] publish it onto

[13:19] the White House Twitter feed.

[13:22] But you didn't do any of that.

[13:24] Because you wanted

[13:25] plausible legal distance.

[13:28] Because you did not want to tie up

[13:29] people who are reputable, you wanted

[13:31] somebody who prides himself on being

[13:33] disreputable, who does not care,

[13:35] who's willing to lie for cash. He does

[13:37] not care at all. He's like, "I will say

[13:39] the thing." We watched him do that live

[13:41] over and over again on this show.

[13:43] And you did that for what purpose?

[13:46] I think to distract from the

[13:47] investigation. I think it proves that

[13:49] you had no respect at all for Charlie,

[13:51] your marriage, your children. It's sick.

[13:53] It's disturbing. I'm so disturbed by it.

[13:55] Like when I when I recognized what he

[13:57] was saying this footage was,

[13:59] that she had handed this over to him, it

[14:02] sickened me. I feel sick when I think

[14:04] about it. And by the way, guys, it's

[14:05] about to get sicker.

[14:07] Cuz she's also going to sell her mom.

[14:08] Okay?

[14:10] In addition,

[14:11] he alleges that Erica supplied him with

[14:13] a private text communication between her

[14:16] and her mother from September 8th.

[14:17] Again, nothing about these messages is

[14:20] going to tell us where Erica is. We're

[14:22] not going to be able to say whether

[14:23] she's on Fort Huachuca base, whether

[14:25] she's in Arizona. I've never said that

[14:27] she's in Fort Huachuca.

[14:28] I couldn't tell you. I don't have

[14:30] Mitch's eyes and I these people have

[14:32] been dancing around just giving an

[14:33] answer. They'd rather file a lawsuit

[14:35] than answer a text message. It's

[14:36] bizarre.

[14:38] But here is the text message thread that

[14:39] he showed

[14:41] about her,

[14:42] apparently between her and her mother.

[14:44] She's giving this information to Andrew

[14:47] Wilson. Like I I cannot process this in

[14:49] my mind.

[14:51] Mama Low,

[14:53] her mother writes,

[14:54] "Did you make it to the bank? You make

[14:56] the bank? I'm sorry. I am so much work

[14:58] and you're just tapped out." Erica says,

[15:01] "No, you're fine. I love you. I just I'm

[15:03] trying to fit it in. I'm still at the

[15:05] bank."

[15:06] Doesn't say what bank.

[15:08] Doesn't say where the bank is.

[15:09] "Charlie wants me to make him dinner,

[15:11] also. So, if I don't respond, I'm not

[15:15] ignoring you." The time is 4:13 p.m.

[15:20] They go on. It's 5:00

[15:22] Her mother writes, "The scale reaches

[15:25] 100.8

[15:26] after a late lunch." So, she's talking

[15:28] about her own weight and illness.

[15:33] And then Erica writes back, "Do you like

[15:35] broccoli soup?" I don't know why we're

[15:37] being Why are we putting this This is

[15:38] totally odd. This doesn't tell us

[15:39] anything.

[15:41] And then

[15:42] uh the mother replies, "Yes, please. Use

[15:45] only the flowers, not the stems."

[15:49] Okay? Stems kill, she writes.

[15:53] Stems connect to flowers, throw out.

[15:56] Erica responds at 7:18 p.m. It says,

[16:00] "Okay.

[16:01] How are you feeling?"

[16:03] Her mother at 9:20 p.m. says, "Okay, my

[16:06] tremors are intense."

[16:09] Then Erica writes back, "Please make

[16:10] sure you eat."

[16:13] We have learned nothing about where

[16:16] Erica is.

[16:18] Uh at a bank?

[16:19] If these are to be believed, if I I have

[16:21] no idea if these text messages are real.

[16:23] I have no idea why they're coming from

[16:25] Andrew Wilson. I have no idea what they

[16:27] have to do with Fort Huachuca. I really

[16:28] don't understand what they have to do

[16:29] with Fort Huachuca. It does nothing but

[16:31] demonstrate Erica's character. And

[16:33] that's why I wanted to harp on this

[16:34] because it's it's so disgusting that you

[16:37] would sell your sick mother

[16:39] and your the last memories of your

[16:42] husband with your kids to Andrew Wilson

[16:43] for the purposes of trolling. That's

[16:44] all. This is just a troll. There's

[16:45] nothing that's been clarified here.

[16:47] It's just meant to confuse people.

[16:50] And then he says, "Well, the metadata

[16:51] shows."

[16:53] And then he keeps showing the September

[16:54] 8th metadata. Like, Andrew Wilson is not

[16:57] even smart enough to know that you can

[17:00] just edit the metadata on your own phone

[17:01] for every photo that you have in your

[17:05] entire phone. Every photo, you could

[17:07] just take it, go through it, and you can

[17:09] edit the metadata to say whatever you

[17:10] want. And I think it is best illustrated

[17:12] illustrated by Baron Coleman's tweet. He

[17:14] wrote back this.

[17:15] He wrote, "Most people don't know, but

[17:17] bottled water dates back centuries. Here

[17:20] is a rare picture from March of 1609

[17:23] showing a bottle of bottled water in

[17:25] Persia. Trust me, bro." And he just

[17:28] edited the metadata to say that he took

[17:31] this photo

[17:32] on March 23rd in 1609.

[17:38] Andrew didn't know this.

[17:40] Nor does he care. He's meant to be a

[17:42] chaos agent. We're aware of what those

[17:43] people are. When governments get

[17:45] nervous, when the military gets nervous,

[17:47] we learned about this when people who

[17:49] were in my book club when I was like,

[17:50] "You absolutely must read chaos and what

[17:52] the government does." Then when you

[17:53] start to see these sorts of campaigns

[17:55] that are meant to distract, that to me

[17:57] feels like an intentional federal push

[18:01] that wants you to focus on this or focus

[18:03] on debunking this or responding to this.

[18:05] And that's why I say it's really

[18:06] important to remain focused. I uh do

[18:09] find Erica to be some sort of a

[18:12] odd government pawn. I think that has

[18:15] been It's very clear to me that she is

[18:17] uh the from everywhere that she's with,

[18:20] the people that she partners with, the

[18:21] lack of answers that she provides, and

[18:24] doing things that a wife,

[18:27] a widow, would not naturally do.

[18:30] Partnerships that you would not

[18:32] naturally make with people. Uh

[18:35] people like Andrew Wilson and Rachel

[18:36] Wilson. It's It is just unmistakable to

[18:37] me

[18:38] that there was something very wrong and

[18:41] deranged about Erica Kirk. And I will

[18:43] hear no more on the topic. It's like I'm

[18:46] asserting that as a fact after seeing

[18:49] this correspondence, which we should not

[18:51] have seen, and clarifies nothing.

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