Candace Owens Exposes 92-Person Coordinated Attack Group Targeting Her Over Charlie Kirk Investigation

[00:01] All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday.

[00:03] Sorry, I'm a little tardy. I had a sick

[00:05] two-year-old in my bed last night, and

[00:06] he's he's cute, but he sleeps like a

[00:08] psycho. Snores like an old man. Anyway,

[00:11] I know a lot of people today are

[00:12] discussing obviously celebrity blogger

[00:15] Perez Hilton this morning. Don't worry,

[00:17] we are not going to show you the video.

[00:20] I actually want to be honest with you, I

[00:21] haven't even watched the video because

[00:23] my social media guy alerted me to it

[00:25] last night. He said, "Don't watch it."

[00:26] And I said, "Okay." that my husband

[00:28] said, "Do not watch it after he saw it."

[00:31] I can't even watch scary movies. I've

[00:33] shared that with you. I'm very like

[00:34] spiritually sensitive to that stuff. I

[00:36] can't I can hardly make it through an

[00:38] Erica Kirk interview. Speaking of which,

[00:40] in hilarious news, Piers Morgan

[00:42] interviewed one of her spiritual

[00:44] adviserss, Victor Marx, the man that we

[00:47] interviewed. And Piers Morgan is very

[00:49] confused. This man who summons angels

[00:52] and demons into the room. Uh, Pierce has

[00:55] sort of landed upon the same conclusion

[00:57] that Victor is bizarre. Keep going,

[01:00] Piers. You might appreciate that uh all

[01:03] of these godly quote unquote godly

[01:05] people who Erica surrounded her husband

[01:07] with are of a particular variety that

[01:10] feels anything but holy or biblical

[01:13] despite the words that come out of their

[01:14] mouth, despite all of the pretenses.

[01:17] Anyway, we have a lot to cover today, so

[01:19] let's get into it. Welcome back to

[01:21] Candace.

[01:37] Okay, before we get into this Perez

[01:39] Hilton story, quick update for you guys

[01:41] on Officer Baggley, which may or may not

[01:44] be interesting, uh, giving given the

[01:46] recurring themes that we've been talking

[01:48] about in the Charlie Kirk assassination

[01:50] story. Uh, we learned that officer

[01:52] Baggley, while he was employed by the

[01:55] Utah County Sheriff's Office, so that

[01:57] was actually his last place of

[01:58] employment before he began working for

[02:00] UVU. He worked for a Utah County

[02:02] Sheriff's Office, but specifically he

[02:05] worked in the sex crimes detective unit.

[02:09] So, I'm pointing that out because I have

[02:11] been continually underlining that theme

[02:13] across the board. Various decoys like

[02:16] George Zinn arrested for child

[02:18] pornography. Seems like he was put up

[02:20] for this job uh of saying, "I did it. I

[02:22] did it." The guy who jumped up and

[02:24] started that chant, "USA, USA." He goes

[02:28] by David Sprag, but he actually changed

[02:30] his name. It used to be James

[02:32] Rollinsson. He confessed to me that his

[02:34] father got mixed up uh in crimes against

[02:37] children and and some sex abuse crimes

[02:39] against children. Uh, I also had shared

[02:42] with you in the past, maybe you don't

[02:43] remember, that I strongly suspect that

[02:46] Mike Mitchell, who is very central to

[02:48] the story, the former undercover cop who

[02:51] was Tyler Robinson's Boy Scouts leader

[02:54] who told him, "Oh, you know, they're

[02:56] going to they're going to arrest you

[02:57] either way and convinced him to sort of

[02:59] turn himself in or, you know, have the

[03:03] SWAT bang down your door." Well, as a

[03:05] reminder, we were able to find an

[03:08] undercover detective who was involved in

[03:10] Utah with cyber sex crime unit by that

[03:13] same name, Mike Michael Mitchell, but we

[03:15] haven't been able to confirm with

[03:16] absolute certain uh abs absolute

[03:18] certainty that it is uh the same Mike

[03:21] Mitchell. But I think it is because I

[03:22] just we don't really know what he did uh

[03:25] for the police. And usually that means

[03:27] you're undercover and if you're doing

[03:29] internet crimes. Uh yeah, I'll tell you

[03:32] one thing why this really matters and

[03:34] we've had that spreadsheet for you is

[03:36] because obviously when you are dealing

[03:38] with uh sex crimes over the internet,

[03:40] cyber sex crimes, you will find a hub of

[03:44] feds and feds do turn would be criminals

[03:48] into assets. You catch them uh touching

[03:51] the wrong link and here are your

[03:53] choices. You can either do this for us

[03:55] or you can spend the rest of your life

[03:57] with the whole world knowing you're a

[03:58] pedophile. These circumstances have

[04:00] happened in the past many times over.

[04:02] And so again, I'm entering that tidbit

[04:05] because it might be relevant down the

[04:06] line. Now, I had already been wondering

[04:09] aloud about whether some people were

[04:12] blackmailed into certain activity, and

[04:14] I'm going to continue to to wonder aloud

[04:16] about that, give myself permission to

[04:18] think while it's still legal. I also

[04:20] really wanted to get together a little

[04:22] list. I will I will keep building on

[04:24] this. You know, I love a list for

[04:26] I mean, just us to remind ourselves of

[04:28] everything that we were initially told

[04:30] about this case. Uh the influencers that

[04:32] came out and told us they were

[04:34] overwhelmed with evidence that has thus

[04:36] far been proven false or entirely

[04:39] unverifiable. We were told wait until

[04:41] the preliminary hearing. I was told that

[04:43] actually by Erica herself, saying this

[04:46] is her lawyer. This is when we gather

[04:48] all the evidence. Then at the

[04:49] preliminary hearing, we have a a chance

[04:51] to present that evidence and the public

[04:53] will know much more. Well, it's just

[04:55] important to pause and reflect and to

[04:57] recognize that from beginning up until

[05:00] this point, we have just been lied to.

[05:02] They have proven actually nothing. They

[05:04] continually call us the conspiracy

[05:07] theorists. They are the conspiracy

[05:08] theorists. Actually, we are fully in the

[05:10] throws of trust the science of Tyler

[05:13] Robinson. Just just trust that it's him,

[05:15] but we don't have to supply any proof.

[05:17] So, here's just a little brief list of

[05:19] things that I'm putting together. Uh,

[05:20] and like I said, we will continue to

[05:22] grow this, but we were told that Tyler

[05:24] Tyler's father turned him in. I have

[05:26] disputed this from the very beginning. I

[05:27] was the first person to say that is not

[05:29] true. I had a source and it was solid.

[05:31] That actually he was pressured into

[05:32] coming in and told that he had no other

[05:35] option or they were going to bang down

[05:36] his door. When we were told that, don't

[05:38] forget the Bill Aman narrative in the

[05:40] background. Bill Aman. This was such a a

[05:42] prevalent narrative in the mainstream

[05:45] that Bill Aman tweeted that he was going

[05:48] to award this brave father. Oh, could

[05:50] you imagine if you had to turn in your

[05:51] own son $1 million, which added to this

[05:55] myth and this lore of Tyler Robinson's

[05:58] father uh turning him in. And that has

[06:00] been determined to be a lie. I'm not

[06:02] saying Bill Aman lied. He could have

[06:03] been responding to the lie. But what I'm

[06:05] saying is uh I I believe Andrew Kovette

[06:07] admitted that Bill Aman did not give him

[06:09] $1 million and Matt Robinson, his father

[06:13] did not turn him in. They just kind of

[06:14] are moving on from that point. It didn't

[06:16] happen. Uh there we were also told that

[06:19] there is a video of Tyler Robinson

[06:21] taking the shot in 4K by the

[06:23] influencers. That is a lie. I proved to

[06:26] you that was a lie. They're now moving

[06:27] the goalpost and pretending that they

[06:29] never said it. that was there is no

[06:31] video of any person taking the shot

[06:34] actually doesn't exist major lie uh

[06:38] Tyler Robinson another thing that we

[06:39] were told uh andor his lover at various

[06:43] times are transgendered that's a lie

[06:47] Tyler Robinson is not transgendered I

[06:49] told you that very early on his lover

[06:50] Lance is not transgendered and the furry

[06:53] culture it's very difficult to explain

[06:56] but that is supposed to exist as an

[06:59] avatar are of some game player or some

[07:02] some some someone in game world that

[07:04] reminds you of yourself and I am told by

[07:07] people in the game world that Luna is a

[07:09] very popular character because they're

[07:12] sort of like antisocial and I don't know

[07:14] they were explaining to me who Luna is

[07:16] the very popular character in that world

[07:18] and who's going to account for that lie

[07:21] who's going to come forward and admit

[07:22] that they just sort of made that up I

[07:24] don't know we were similarly told in

[07:26] that same vein the reason why that lie

[07:28] was so crucial

[07:29] was that this was a politically

[07:30] motivated crime. Tyler Robinson, the

[07:33] whole text messages reflect some hate

[07:35] just can't be negotiated. I got to do

[07:38] this. Charlie, I had to take my shot.

[07:40] Charlie Kirk is here. That's crucial.

[07:43] That's the motive. We were told that

[07:45] that was because of Charlie Kirk's

[07:47] stance on LGBTQ issues. Least of the

[07:50] things that he is known for. Truly least

[07:52] of the things that Charlie Kirk is known

[07:53] for. If this was like, you know, Matt

[07:55] Walsh during what is a woman

[07:57] documentary, that might make sense. But

[07:59] Charlie Kirk, like, no, that's not what

[08:02] people when you think of Charlie Kirk,

[08:03] you don't think of transgendered issues.

[08:05] We know where he stands on it, but

[08:06] that's not that's not his claim to fame.

[08:10] Then suddenly the the boyfriend Lance

[08:13] testifies that he's never spoken to him

[08:15] about LGBTQ issues. So I guess for the

[08:17] first time he spoke to him about it

[08:19] after he killed Charlie Kirk via text

[08:22] message. Again, it's a very serious lie,

[08:25] but has now been debunked because it

[08:27] means the motive has evaporated. The

[08:29] political motive has evaporated. He said

[08:31] they didn't even speak about politics.

[08:32] He had never mentioned the name Charlie

[08:35] Kirk to him ever.

[08:38] Where's their motive now?

[08:41] We were told that there is footage of

[08:42] Tyler Robinson assembling the rifle on

[08:45] the roof. That is a lie. There is no

[08:47] footage of Tyler Robinson assembling the

[08:49] rifle on the roof. Blake Nef tweeted

[08:50] this the other day. He's lying through

[08:52] his teeth. He's lying through that bald

[08:55] head. Okay. Doesn't exist. Then he kind

[08:58] of tried to edit and say, "Well, we can

[08:59] deduce. We can deduce. We can deduce

[09:02] that somebody assembled a rifle on the

[09:04] roof." No, we can't deduce that. Is

[09:05] there footage? Yes or no? The answer is

[09:07] no. It was a lie. We were told that

[09:10] there was clear footage of Tyler

[09:12] Robinson's car on campus. That is thus

[09:14] far unproven. It would remain a mystery

[09:16] as as to if there was that footage why

[09:20] they wouldn't have presented at the

[09:20] preliminary hearing. What we have been

[09:23] presented with is blurry footage of a

[09:26] car that resembles Tyler Robinson's car.

[09:28] He's not the only person in Utah or in

[09:31] the United States or in the world that

[09:33] drives that particular vehicle in that

[09:35] car in that color. So, that is thus far

[09:38] unproven, but we we'll we'll be open to

[09:40] maybe this is they just didn't want to

[09:42] present it at the preliminary hearing.

[09:44] We were told Tyler Robinson was

[09:46] suicidal. That is a lie. I told you that

[09:48] was a lie. I from the very beginning he

[09:51] was not suicidal. In fact, he was so not

[09:52] suicidal that he agreed to turn himself

[09:55] in rather to walk in peaceibly. You have

[09:59] no other choice. That's what they told

[10:00] him. He agreed to go in peaceibly rather

[10:02] than subject himself to the possibility

[10:05] of an accidental death by SWAT team

[10:08] banging down his door. That's they just

[10:11] moved on from that. We were told that

[10:13] Tyler Robinson's gun was officially tied

[10:16] to the bullet fragment that was

[10:18] recovered in Charlie's autopsy. That's a

[10:20] lie. The ATF was very clear. That's why

[10:23] the influencer started pretending uh

[10:26] they were kind of trying to shroud uh

[10:28] the ATF testimony. That's my that's my

[10:30] belief of why they went so hard in on

[10:32] the last day because that ATF testimony

[10:34] was so crucial and very carefully

[10:37] explained that they no they uh they gave

[10:40] a range. She gave a range of what these

[10:43] metal fragments of which really only one

[10:46] of them uh could be tested. A range of

[10:49] what sort of weapons it could fit into.

[10:51] And in fact, it didn't cover a 3006.

[10:55] It didn't cover a 306. If you pay

[10:56] attention to that testimony, she almost

[10:59] debunked the idea entirely in my view

[11:02] that this was tied to Tyler Robinson's

[11:04] gun whatsoever.

[11:06] We were told Tyler Robinson's gun had

[11:08] DNA all over it. And I'm going to call

[11:10] that a lie by severe omission because

[11:12] every time they said this in the public,

[11:15] they refused to say, but five other sets

[11:19] of prints minimally were also found on

[11:21] the gun. And they refused to say that

[11:24] Tylers are the most degraded.

[11:27] Tyler's prints are the most degraded of

[11:29] all the prints that were found on this

[11:31] gun. That is a severe lie by omission to

[11:34] continually say they found his prince on

[11:37] a gun and not admit that five other sets

[11:40] were found of which one were his owned

[11:42] by his father and the other by Lance.

[11:45] Lance Swig is not why why are Lance's

[11:47] fingerprints on this family heirloom.

[11:52] Um and I am going to count this next one

[11:54] as a lie by severe omission that Terrell

[11:56] Farnsworth immediately turned over the

[11:58] footage to police. I'm going to call

[12:00] that a lie by severe omission because

[12:02] Terrell Farnworth took out we watched

[12:04] him take out an SD card. And actually

[12:08] what the police were given was not an SD

[12:11] card. They were given a hard drive,

[12:13] right? A USB file.

[12:16] So why when was that transferred? That

[12:19] feels relevant to me. You didn't they

[12:22] you can give an SD card to the feds. You

[12:24] don't need to be like, well, let me get

[12:25] this onto a USB or a hard drive. No,

[12:29] this tells me that it is plausible that

[12:31] that footage was edited, zoomed in

[12:33] perhaps,

[12:35] as Ni pointed to and then given to the

[12:37] feds for some reason because a zoomed in

[12:39] image would not show you what was

[12:40] happening on the ground beneath. I'm not

[12:42] sure, but these are a lot of of very

[12:46] severe lies that they're now just kind

[12:48] of moving on from

[12:51] what exactly I guess this is my

[12:53] question. What exactly in the narrative

[12:55] thus far which has been presented to us

[12:58] to the public, what are we supposed to

[13:00] find convincing? Because I want you to

[13:02] remember that in order to secure a

[13:04] murder conviction, you have to move a

[13:06] jury beyond a reasonable doubt. Beyond a

[13:11] reasonable doubt to secure a murder

[13:15] conviction.

[13:17] So to our detractors, which there are

[13:19] many, I ask sincerely, name one piece of

[13:21] evidence that has been entered into the

[13:23] public domain that you feel demonstrates

[13:26] that Tyler Robinson did this beyond a

[13:28] reasonable doubt. Because as we were

[13:30] going through this as a team, we were

[13:31] like, all they're left with right now is

[13:34] a text message confession, right? That's

[13:37] that's really kind of it. These were

[13:41] taken a text message confession which

[13:43] the police took from Lance's phone.

[13:48] Mind you, Lance should be a suspect in

[13:49] this. His prints are everywhere. He had

[13:51] access to all of Tyler's belongings. He

[13:53] says his alibi is I was sleeping. Okay.

[13:56] He's being protected by the feds. Like I

[13:58] said, he seems like an asset. Maybe they

[13:59] found him online doing some weird stuff.

[14:02] And those messages were presented

[14:04] without any time stamps. We don't know

[14:06] why that is.

[14:07] And also, it happens to be that when

[14:09] Lance's phone was photographed by the

[14:10] police, it was conveniently broken. Take

[14:12] a look here in the top left corner,

[14:16] right where we would be able to discern

[14:18] what time it was when the police took

[14:21] that. Their story is, oh, he came in on

[14:24] the night of the 10th or maybe it's the

[14:26] 11th. And when we spoke to him, well, it

[14:28] would be great if we could look at that

[14:29] time, but that he happened to break his

[14:32] phone, like stab it right in the corner

[14:34] where the time is. So, we don't get to

[14:35] guess or know when the feds actually

[14:37] took photos of those messages. Um,

[14:41] we also saw testimony in court that the

[14:44] police moved to use an Israeli tech firm

[14:48] to extract the messages. Celebrate, it's

[14:51] called, an Israeli forensic tech firm to

[14:55] extract those messages. Now, I don't

[14:58] know if it matters

[15:00] to them, but we all kind of think Israel

[15:03] killed Charlie Kirk just based on the

[15:06] actions and the mood of the Israeli

[15:09] government leaders, BB Netanyahu, and

[15:11] their plethora of uh Zionist supporters

[15:14] throughout the United States. They're

[15:15] obsessed with lying about the Charlie

[15:17] Kirk case. They just have to lie about

[15:19] the Charlie Kirk case. They have to try

[15:20] to debunk everything immediately. It's

[15:23] giving us the vibe that they could be

[15:25] guilty.

[15:27] So yeah, we'd rather not trust an

[15:28] Israeli tech firm to extract messages

[15:30] that do not sound at all as though they

[15:33] were written by a native English

[15:35] speaker. And I'll tell you what I mean

[15:36] by that. It sounds to me like someone

[15:38] using Google Translate, right? There are

[15:41] little idiosyncrasies in language that

[15:43] I'll give you when I learned Spanish.

[15:45] Okay? I remember like, okay, I know how

[15:48] to say to drink. Be

[15:51] ber.

[15:53] But actually they don't use bear ever.

[15:55] No. Everywhere you go they use tomar

[15:58] which is like to take. They say tomma

[16:01] like you take. So if you say be like if

[16:04] I put that into Google translate

[16:08] I want to drink it's going to give me

[16:11] be. And if I go and I then present those

[16:14] as text messages, Spanish people are

[16:16] going to clock you in 4 seconds and say,

[16:17] "This is not a native sp this is not a

[16:18] native Spanish speaker at all." We don't

[16:21] say, "But it means to drink." Yeah, we

[16:24] don't we don't we don't say that.

[16:27] In Tyler Robinson's text messages, we

[16:29] actual American English speakers, we

[16:32] don't say pooch and bad sniffer in

[16:34] casual language. I actually looked that

[16:36] up actually. Like sniffer is is

[16:38] Ukrainian. There's like a show called

[16:40] The Sniffer, Ukrainian show. It's

[16:43] totally crazy. We don't use that stuff

[16:45] in casual language. This is somebody who

[16:48] does not know how we speak.

[16:51] And it is of course entirely plausible

[16:53] that someone gained access to Tyler

[16:55] Robinson's iCloud. Maybe someone like

[16:56] his boyfriend

[16:58] gave access to his iCloud and someone

[17:00] sent text messages from a different

[17:02] location. All of that remains to be seen

[17:04] because don't forget Tyler's legal team,

[17:06] despite reasonable protestations, were

[17:08] not granted their discovery requests

[17:11] leading up to the preliminary hearing.

[17:13] Okay? They testified that they had not

[17:15] even been given access to their client's

[17:19] phone

[17:20] when they were requesting an extension.

[17:22] They were going, "Well, how are we doing

[17:23] with this hearing? We we don't have

[17:24] anything. We don't we can't even vet

[17:26] anything that you're putting on the

[17:26] stand. You're just going to allow

[17:27] hearsay?" Yeah, we're going to allow

[17:29] hearsay. That's what happened. Those

[17:31] text messages have not been vetted yet.

[17:35] Now, in addition to this, the public is

[17:36] noticing that the victim on this case,

[17:38] Erica Kirk, is inviting influencers into

[17:40] the courtroom. That doesn't make us

[17:42] think she's telling the truth.

[17:43] Especially because the influencers are

[17:45] lying. They have lied repeatedly to the

[17:49] masses. They get caught and they just

[17:50] keep lying as if their lives and

[17:52] livelihood depend on it. On top of that,

[17:55] her her organization, which she took

[17:57] over, um, in her husband's dead, Turning

[18:00] Point USA, is contracting the services

[18:03] of and platforming people who are meant

[18:06] to lie about this investigation

[18:08] full-time. It's their full-time job to

[18:11] attack Candace. I don't know if you

[18:13] happen to catch this, but over on X

[18:15] right now, it's trending. A group of 92

[18:19] influencers have been exposed targeting

[18:22] me exposed coordinating in a group chat.

[18:25] The group was brought together by an

[18:28] agent of Israel. No doubt uh in the past

[18:31] before Charlie was assassinated that

[18:33] this person hosted uh a spaces on X and

[18:36] went on record admitting that they

[18:38] gather intel. They collaborate with with

[18:40] Green Berets there. Uh they collaborated

[18:42] with a Daily Wire employee Cassie Akiva,

[18:44] the Gaza Humanitarian Fund, then run by

[18:47] Johnny Moore, to create files on people

[18:50] for the purpose of doing Israel's PR

[18:52] bidding. At that time, it was about

[18:54] what's happening in Gaza. And they were

[18:56] they were going after someone who

[18:59] [clears throat] Tucker Carlson had on

[19:00] his show. So, of course, the common

[19:02] sense question is, why is someone who

[19:04] focuses on PR for Israel focused on

[19:07] gathering 91 other people to attack me

[19:10] full-time over the Charlie Kirk case?

[19:12] Okay, I'll show you this. The group chat

[19:14] got exposed because a member of the

[19:15] group went rogue and was like, I'm done

[19:17] with this. This is this is no longer

[19:19] healthy for me. Here is what she said

[19:21] over two tweets. Shady Lady Katie wrote,

[19:25] coordinated efforts are coming from some

[19:27] of these people. Here are all the names

[19:30] who were in this group chat. I'm sh sh

[19:32] sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh

[19:32] sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh

[19:32] sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh

[19:32] sharing information, background checks,

[19:34] reporting accounts, whining and

[19:36] complaining all day about Candace Owens

[19:38] and even sharing Candace's own home

[19:41] address in this group chat. However, I

[19:44] will say that not everyone here

[19:45] participated. Some just lurked. Anyway,

[19:48] I am out of here. X is a digital

[19:50] unfruitful wasteland and I have a real

[19:53] life and to do. Go live your lives

[19:56] and build something. and she exposed 92

[19:59] members in this group chat which has the

[20:03] name protecting Mrs. Kirk.

[20:07] Protecting Mrs. Kirk and some of these

[20:08] names are not we know this is their I

[20:10] blocked them because it's just their

[20:11] full it's obvious it's their full-time

[20:13] job to attack me. Milk Bar TV, No Soup

[20:17] for Nles, Paramount, Not So Tactical,

[20:20] Bria Dale, Fake Catholic, Insurrection,

[20:24] Barbie, you know, just block block

[20:27] block. It's not even worth my worth my

[20:29] time. Like, it's just the most obvious

[20:31] operation in the world. Nice to see it.

[20:34] Nice to go through these, and you should

[20:36] go through these 92 absolute losers who

[20:40] are losing despite doing this. I don't

[20:43] coordinate. I'm not on any group chats

[20:45] with 92 operatives, 10 operatives, six

[20:48] operatives, two operatives. I don't do

[20:50] this. I work with my team. I look for

[20:53] information. I may, you know, reach out

[20:55] obviously to people who are also care

[20:56] about this case. Baron Coleman, hey, did

[20:58] you did you see this video? Give him a

[20:59] call. Did like, did you find this? Did

[21:01] you cover this topic? Tell me what he

[21:03] knows. No, no one's no one's

[21:04] coordinating to take down Erica Kirk.

[21:07] We're just coordinating to figure out

[21:08] who killed Charlie Kirk.

[21:11] And for some reason, these people find

[21:12] it to be synonymous with taking down

[21:15] Erica Kirk. I wonder why that is.

[21:18] So that's the question. Why does it take

[21:20] 92 operatives online coordinating

[21:22] sharing my personal information utterly

[21:24] psychotic? Okay, my home address. Why

[21:28] are they obsessed with the takeown of

[21:30] Canoans? Well, the answer is because

[21:32] they know that I know. They know that I

[21:36] know. Okay, we got another bizarre

[21:39] request today. This time from the Daily

[21:41] Mail, Charlie Spearing, the one who

[21:43] worked on the Trust Us, bro. Charlie

[21:45] definitely wanted Erica to take over the

[21:47] company because I watched the video. The

[21:49] author of that, the Aspen, I watched it

[21:52] so you don't have to guy.

[21:54] He wrote this to us today. We have

[21:56] sources who believe that Candace is

[21:57] being used by foreign operatives sending

[21:59] misinformation through her tip line. It

[22:02] is part of a much broader network.

[22:04] Really?

[22:06] Foreign operatives sending me the video

[22:08] of the rooftop? Foreign operatives

[22:10] sending me what? Like the pictures of

[22:13] the inside of the car. Take one, take

[22:16] two, everything that I've exposed. What

[22:17] What do you do you feel like came from a

[22:19] foreign operative? Why do you think the

[22:21] truth is coming from foreign operatives?

[22:22] I don't work with foreign operatives.

[22:24] This is a real network of people who are

[22:27] dedicating their time to wanting to

[22:30] learn and know what happened to Charlie

[22:32] Kirk. I mean, deep down we all have a

[22:35] sense that the state murdered Charlie

[22:37] Kirk. um that clearly it must have had

[22:40] Trump's permission uh because he's doing

[22:43] nothing to try to get to the bottom of

[22:44] what happened to his dear friend who

[22:46] helped to get him elected twice and we

[22:49] sends Israel's involvement.

[22:51] That's what's hap there's no foreign

[22:53] operatives that are working on this

[22:55] case.

[22:57] So yeah, the real issue is that they

[22:59] know that I know they're desperate now

[23:02] growing increasingly desperate and

[23:04] manic. Uh, we want FBI raids, anything.

[23:08] But I'm sorry, guys. Uh, it's all

[23:11] inevitable. Okay,

[23:14] it is inevitable. You are figuratively

[23:17] walking a plank. Charlie was betrayed.

[23:20] You can't spin that.

[23:23] Speaking of which, I have a question for

[23:26] Blakey Nef. Public challenge. Just one

[23:28] question, Blake. Let's see if you can

[23:31] remember. Oh, so transparent one. you,

[23:35] Danny Phillip, Mikey McCoy, and uh Nate

[23:39] Walker all walked into Temponogus

[23:43] Hospital together. My question for you

[23:46] is simple. Did you all travel there

[23:48] together? Did all four of you arrive at

[23:52] Temponogus Hospital in the same car? Yes

[23:57] or no?

[24:00] I'm asking for a reason. Another

[24:04] question and that's regarding Nate

[24:05] Walker because look what a new thing

[24:08] like to be just a new assistant the one

[24:09] who supplied Charles with that freedom

[24:11] t-shirt.

[24:13] The internet has taken notice and we

[24:14] would appreciate a clarification on his

[24:17] movements before the explosive goes off.

[24:20] Um because he's a young assistant and at

[24:22] around 12:15 he has his bag as

[24:25] assistants do. would have been many of

[24:26] these events. And he's speaking speaking

[24:29] with Dan Flood. And this is around

[24:32] 12:15.

[24:33] I'm going to show you that.

[24:36] Um, you can see he's wearing a bright

[24:38] blue shirt in the corner there. That's

[24:40] him talking. You could just catch him

[24:41] with his bag that's pointing. And then

[24:45] what happens after that? Dan's obviously

[24:48] talking into his shirt. Then Nate

[24:52] with I guess we're less than T minus 10

[24:56] before the explosive goes off. Um

[24:59] suddenly he's upstairs when that

[25:03] happens.

[25:05] He is this is him immediately following

[25:09] the explosive

[25:10] um around 12:25. So about I guess a

[25:13] minute and 45 seconds afterward. Here he

[25:15] is up near the flag of Hall's walkway.

[25:19] putting on sunglasses and he doesn't

[25:22] have his bag.

[25:32] Here he comes.

[25:38] And then we find him two minutes beyond

[25:40] that walking downstairs. Um, so people

[25:44] have questions and I think it's a pretty

[25:46] fair thing. You know, the public cares

[25:49] about Charlie. What? Where? Why did he

[25:52] go upstairs?

[25:54] What was um Maybe he went up there. I

[25:57] don't I don't know. Maybe I don't know.

[26:00] Dan Flood asked him to go up there to

[26:02] check on something. I don't know. We

[26:04] don't need to make up a narrative. We

[26:05] don't need to speculate,

[26:07] but we are asking for a specific reason.

[26:11] Anyway, I will leave that at that. I

[26:14] want to get into this Perez Hilton uh

[26:17] story. I guess you know what we should

[26:18] probably do. I didn't realize they've

[26:20] already been going here for 30 minutes.

[26:22] Let's take a quick break and then let's

[26:23] cover Perez Hilton.

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[29:26] Okay, so it's trending everywhere. Uh

[29:28] the video has fortunately been removed

[29:30] from the internet. Of course, you can

[29:32] find it in various pockets, but at least

[29:34] there is some sort of an honest attempt

[29:35] to remove the video across social media.

[29:38] Uh, but Perez Hilton, I'm going to tell

[29:39] you a little bit about him for my

[29:41] international listeners because I

[29:43] obviously do not expect that he made it

[29:45] across the pond. So, he is a gay

[29:48] celebrity blogger uh who really came up

[29:51] in the early 2000s. You you could

[29:53] actually argue that he sort of pioneered

[29:55] celebrity blogging uh in the time and

[29:58] the land before social media. He did it

[30:00] in a way, however, that I should make

[30:02] clear was very vicious and very mean,

[30:05] right? He would cover celebrities

[30:07] throughout their addictions, eating

[30:09] disorders, their relationships, um if

[30:11] they were, you know, struggling with uh

[30:13] anorexia, if they were in rehab, if they

[30:16] were begging for privacy. There was like

[30:17] no place that he wouldn't go. There was

[30:19] nothing he would not publish onto his

[30:21] blog. And he um uh would also include

[30:25] these gratuitous illustrations of these

[30:27] celebrities to suggest as an example

[30:29] that they were addicted to co cocaine

[30:31] like a little white scribble beneath

[30:33] their nose so to speak to imply that

[30:35] these people were on drugs. It was

[30:38] incredibly invasive to many celebrities

[30:40] who were all many of them extremely

[30:43] young at the time of his publications

[30:45] and uh dealing with their own

[30:47] insecurities obviously being in the

[30:49] public eye. They uh would eventually

[30:52] speak out about how his targeting and

[30:54] bullying contributed to their

[30:56] self-hatred or their self harm. And to

[30:59] be clear, I want to really stress he was

[31:02] vicious. He would call people ugly, fat,

[31:06] give them nicknames, and they would sort

[31:10] of I think a lot of them were like

[31:11] permanently damaged from this. One of

[31:12] them being Khloe Kardashian, who has

[31:14] changed her face many times. I he really

[31:17] targeted her and referred to her as a

[31:20] transvestite over and over again. Also,

[31:22] there was this massive scandal. To give

[31:24] you an idea of who he was, he posted an

[31:26] upskirt photo of Miley Cyrus, who was

[31:29] then just 17 years old. Right? That's

[31:31] the kind of stuff that he would do. And

[31:33] when he was interviewed about it, he

[31:34] would just be like, "Oh, it's not my

[31:35] fault that like whatever. This is what

[31:37] the public is interested in and these

[31:39] celebrities know what they're doing."

[31:40] She's 17 years old. Like, this is not a

[31:42] person that you should be publishing.

[31:44] Now, of course, this because it was like

[31:47] sort of the dawn of this and people

[31:49] maybe always wondered how celebrities

[31:51] lived and wanted to know about these

[31:54] celebrities. It just completely launched

[31:58] him. It actually gave him so much power

[31:59] in Hollywood. celebrities actually

[32:01] sought his friendship. So you can see

[32:03] he's hanging out with A-listers because

[32:05] he just wanted to be on his good side.

[32:06] It was almost like a form of social

[32:08] blackmail in a way because you didn't

[32:10] want to end up with him tracking you. So

[32:11] that's like Lady Gaga. I mean he was

[32:13] hosting wild parties with A-list

[32:15] celebrities because people basically

[32:18] wanted to end up on his good list.

[32:20] That's kind of the Perez Hilton

[32:22] phenomena uh in a nutshell. Now, in

[32:25] 2010,

[32:26] he did a total rebrand and he offered

[32:28] this public apology saying that he

[32:31] wanted to change his trajectory, wanted

[32:33] to change his ways, no longer play a

[32:36] part in the industry of bullying that he

[32:38] really built. And he tried to flip his

[32:41] brand by appearing on Ellen Degenerous's

[32:43] talk show. And here is what he said.

[32:46] >> So, when you asked to be here, I got to

[32:48] say a lot of people have said, uh, it's

[32:50] not a good idea and advised me against

[32:51] it and said, why would you want to do

[32:53] that? I believe in giving people second

[32:54] chances and you said you want to change

[32:57] and a lot of people don't believe you

[32:58] but if you say you want to change and

[33:00] you want to I I think it it takes a big

[33:02] person to look at themselves and say

[33:04] I've done wrong and I want to change so

[33:06] I want to listen to what you have to

[33:07] say.

[33:08] >> Yeah. You know over the last week and a

[33:10] half two weeks I've been doing

[33:11] everything I can to bring awareness to

[33:13] the the issue of the teen suicides and

[33:15] gay bullying. And in doing so, a lot of

[33:18] people have called me a hypocrite and a

[33:21] bully myself and a big one. And

[33:24] that's not how I want to be perceived

[33:27] and that's not what I want to put out

[33:28] there into the world. And it was a big

[33:30] wakeup call that so many people saw me

[33:32] that way. So, you know, from now on, I

[33:34] really want to be part of the solution

[33:37] and not part of the problem. I want to

[33:38] be the change that I want to see in

[33:40] others. So, I'm going to do things

[33:41] differently on my website than I have in

[33:44] the past. I'm not going to call people

[33:48] nasty nicknames. I'm not going to go the

[33:50] the mean route. I'm going to force

[33:51] myself to try and be funnier or smarter

[33:54] or or just do things differently, not

[33:56] doodle inappropriate things, not not out

[33:58] people, which I I have done all of those

[34:00] things in the past.

[34:02] >> That's right. So, yeah, he had a lot of

[34:05] power in Hollywood. Some people were not

[34:07] buying this rebrand, especially people

[34:10] who were impacted by the stuff that he

[34:11] did. Khloe Kardashian being one of them.

[34:13] She came out and was like, "This is

[34:14] nice, but no, like you've, you know,

[34:16] really damaged me." Now, I I should

[34:18] mention here the reason why some people

[34:19] weren't buying this was because at the

[34:21] same time of his attempted rebrand came

[34:23] the dawn of social media. So, his

[34:24] relevancy was sort of naturally fading.

[34:27] The paparazzi culture of the 2000s,

[34:30] he benefited from that tremendously. It

[34:33] changed with smartphones, right?

[34:34] Everyone suddenly became the paparazzi.

[34:36] This wasn't like unique capture and

[34:38] celebrity culture transformed. So, this

[34:41] was kind of like the Paris Hilton,

[34:43] Nicole Richie phase that he uh was

[34:46] enjoyed the boom of and then that sort

[34:47] of went away. I'm just telling you guys

[34:49] that on background uh because like I

[34:50] said, I'm sure he didn't make his way

[34:52] across the pond. People don't know who

[34:53] this guy is or why he's trending, but he

[34:55] really did build an empire of of sleeves

[34:58] and he embraced it until he didn't. Now,

[35:00] on the personal side of things, you

[35:02] should know that Perez as a gay single

[35:03] man uh in the new social media era made

[35:07] this decision also to have children via

[35:10] surrogacy. He's single. This is becoming

[35:12] an increasingly controversial topic. Gay

[35:15] men um using surrogacy, not having

[35:18] another parent in their lives. He chose

[35:20] to have three children, one in 2013, one

[35:23] in 2015, and one in 2017. One boy and

[35:27] two girls. So, he is a single father,

[35:29] which is important as we get into what

[35:31] happened last night. Okay? These

[35:33] children do not have another parent is

[35:35] what I'm stressing to you. So, over

[35:37] recent months, it's been clear that he

[35:39] is going through something. I mean, on

[35:41] March 23rd, he posted videos of himself

[35:43] from a hospital bed and said he almost

[35:46] died from severe sepsis and infections.

[35:49] He claimed that it started with the flu,

[35:53] but he didn't take his medications with

[35:55] food like he was supposed to. So he then

[35:58] developed an ulcer that eventually

[36:00] perforated. He was hospitalized for 3

[36:02] weeks and had emergency surgery. And

[36:06] then he said that because he was so

[36:08] close to death, he found God. And then

[36:11] he started sort of hawking these

[36:13] Christian t-shirts online and you know

[36:16] people either accepted that or thought

[36:18] that this was a new grift. One or the

[36:21] other. Now, yesterday what happened and

[36:23] I made like I said Skyler watched this

[36:25] video last night so I didn't have to. My

[36:27] husband watched this video so I didn't

[36:28] have to. I have sensitive eyes and ears.

[36:31] But in the video uh which ran live on

[36:33] TikTok, Perez Hilton was fully naked,

[36:35] drenched in blood with multiple cuts all

[36:38] over his body and he was cutting

[36:40] himself. He can be seen making cuts uh

[36:42] with a knife all over his body and he's

[36:45] completely out of it. He's on video and

[36:47] he's saying things like, "I am doing

[36:49] this for my children." Uh he's looking

[36:51] out of the window recognizing that the

[36:53] police are here saying shoot me you know

[36:56] mother foes mother f-words you know what

[36:58] I'm trying to say there and what

[37:01] happened was the update came from NBC

[37:04] obviously they took him gratefully

[37:06] peaceibly and the they hospitalized him

[37:10] uh after this live stream that he was

[37:12] doing this on a live stream on TikTok I

[37:13] should mention and he w the police said

[37:17] that they responded to his Miami area

[37:20] home um of the celebrity blogger and

[37:22] podcaster Perez Hilton after they

[37:24] received reports that he engaged in self

[37:25] harm in a live streamed video Tuesday

[37:27] night. A spokesperson for the Miami Dade

[37:30] Sheriff's Office said in an email that

[37:31] the deputies responded to reports of

[37:33] someone who was live streaming acts of

[37:35] self harm on social media. In a

[37:37] follow-up statement, the sheriff's

[37:38] office said that the person was safely

[37:40] recovered and taken by Miami Dade Fire

[37:43] Rescue to a local hospital where he was

[37:45] receiving medical attention. It said the

[37:47] de deputies spoke to the family members

[37:49] at the scene who confirmed the person

[37:50] had been alone inside the residence. So

[37:52] his kids were not there. The video which

[37:54] was streamed on Tik Tok before the

[37:56] platform pulled it appeared to show

[37:57] Hilton covered in blood with visible

[37:59] cuts holding a knife. And in the video

[38:02] viewers pleaded with him and asked for

[38:04] his phone number so that they could

[38:05] alert authorities. Um, and they note

[38:08] that he's a single father with three

[38:10] children, born via surrogacy, and he

[38:12] moved back to Miami after living in Las

[38:15] Vegas for three and a half years. Now, I

[38:17] want to share my personal opinion on

[38:18] this. I I think uh Paris Hilton is on

[38:21] drugs. I do. It's an opinion, not a

[38:23] fact, obviously. But I soon as I uh

[38:25] heard about this, soon as I heard about

[38:27] the sepsis thing, there was just

[38:29] something about it that felt to me like

[38:30] he is in the throws of a drug addiction.

[38:32] And obviously there is a deeper irony to

[38:35] that given how he built his career. But

[38:37] um there's been just a lot of changes in

[38:39] his life moving back into uh his

[38:41] mother's house I believe is accurate.

[38:43] He's living with his mother. His

[38:44] mother's raising his kids. That indicate

[38:46] to me that he's on some sort of a

[38:47] spiral. Um and not not something to be

[38:51] made fun of. I don't think that's funny.

[38:52] That's just my genuine opinion is that

[38:53] you're looking at somebody who has uh uh

[38:56] demons, you know, and that he could have

[38:59] been in some some sort of a a

[39:01] druginduced psychosis when this went on.

[39:04] He was also saying how he doesn't like

[39:05] himself. And you know, a lot of that is

[39:08] because Hollywood in general, the

[39:11] broader picture here is that we now have

[39:14] confronted the reality that sort of

[39:16] glamour and glitter of what we thought

[39:18] Hollywood was has fallen. uh we don't

[39:21] have the same opinion as we had about

[39:24] celebrities back in the early 2000s.

[39:26] They there's something about them that

[39:28] they felt so shiny and now we realize

[39:30] that these people are uh crazed dealing

[39:33] with their own issues. Many of them drug

[39:35] addicts, many of them involved in

[39:36] pedophilia. I'm not talking about Perez

[39:38] Hilton. I'm talking about what we've

[39:40] learned about Hollywood and many of them

[39:42] controlled by agents. We've seen now,

[39:44] you know, uh so many of them try to

[39:45] speak out. We saw what happened to

[39:47] Britney Spears. We saw what happened to

[39:48] Kanye West. We saw what happened to

[39:49] Michael Jackson. And of course, just

[39:51] what I've learned, uh, how Hollywood was

[39:54] set up truly, it was meant to be a cult.

[39:56] It's meant to be demonic. It was meant

[39:58] to draw people away from the church and

[40:01] into the cathedrals of theater. These

[40:04] people are performers and their idea is

[40:07] to attract uh the masses to uh

[40:13] I guess presentations about whether it's

[40:15] history. You watch a movie, you think

[40:16] it's real. The whole idea is that

[40:18] Hollywood was meant to drive us into um

[40:23] it almost like it was psychoanalytical,

[40:26] right? They created Hollywood because

[40:28] they wanted to control what we think. It

[40:30] was meant to be a brainwashing

[40:31] technique, so to speak. When you get

[40:32] into Sigman Freud and you get into PR

[40:35] and propaganda, that's what Hollywood is

[40:37] at its core. It's propaganda. And they

[40:39] wanted us to really sort of have this

[40:41] form of pagan belief in these

[40:43] celebrities as something to be

[40:44] worshiped. And it worked. It worked. I

[40:46] would say in my young younger years I

[40:49] was just oh my gosh Christina Aguilera

[40:50] oh my gosh these people are amazing. I

[40:52] would do anything to meet Christine

[40:54] Aguilera. That was supposed to be the

[40:56] magic trick. And I think that that now

[40:58] we have seen that illusion fade. And the

[41:01] fall so to speak or the current fall of

[41:04] Pier of um Perez Hilton sort of

[41:07] represents that moment. But here's what

[41:08] I want to warn about that. When

[41:11] something falls, and I'm referring to

[41:12] Hollywood more broadly, not specifically

[41:14] Perez Hilton, something has to rise to

[41:16] take its place. And I sense so deeply

[41:18] that that same occult worship, that same

[41:21] shiny new fake veneer drawing the youth

[41:25] in is what we are watching right now

[41:28] with the rise of this fake Christian

[41:30] grift that is happening. It is exactly

[41:33] what it it's like. It's Hollywood all

[41:35] over again, but this time it's going to

[41:37] be biblical. Uh I we the same players

[41:40] are involved. People that were in

[41:41] reality TV are now pretending that they

[41:43] can't get a sentence out without

[41:45] referring to the Lord. It is so much uh

[41:48] for me uh what I see happening with

[41:50] Turning Point USA. Like this is it. This

[41:52] is supposed to be the new Hollywood.

[41:54] This is the plan. They're supposed to

[41:55] get your children. They want to be

[41:56] inside of the high schools. And you're

[41:58] supposed to look the other way and go,

[41:59] "Well, this isn't bad." Like maybe your

[42:01] parents were okay with you watching TRL

[42:02] when you got home. Whatever. This is

[42:04] just culture. Now they're saying this

[42:06] isn't culture. is actually God. And

[42:08] that's really scary. It's the same

[42:10] paganism that is found and they try to

[42:13] protect it and say, "You can't question

[42:14] it now because we are giving it a new

[42:17] veneer. And this veneer is that it's

[42:19] godly." And we know scripture and we're

[42:22] not going to address the fact that at,

[42:24] you know, Turning Point USA events there

[42:25] are having gay orgies and that this

[42:28] person is cheating on this person, this

[42:29] person is sleeping with this person, an

[42:31] unbelievable amount of gay men that work

[42:32] at Turning Point USA. um that they are

[42:35] working behind the scenes with the same

[42:36] PR agents. The same vicious crisis PR

[42:39] firms uh that employed Hollywood is now

[42:42] employing these groups like Turning

[42:44] Point USA is now employing these

[42:45] influencers that are targeting your

[42:47] children. That is something that you

[42:48] have to pay attention to. Hollywood is

[42:50] falling and something else is rising to

[42:52] take its place. And in my honest

[42:54] opinion, it's more sadistic because it

[42:56] is targeting people through faith. And

[42:58] uh I just wanted to say that when I

[43:00] watch this, this is like it's like a new

[43:01] dawn, a new chapter. I do wish obviously

[43:03] Perez Hilton um I I hope he gets better.

[43:05] I hope he he truly finds God um and that

[43:08] he gets over whatever it is and the

[43:10] first way that you're going to get over

[43:12] any spiritual um demon that you're

[43:16] dealing with. That's why I do think this

[43:18] is a a form of possession is to be

[43:21] radically honest in your life. Like you

[43:24] need to be radically honest with what it

[43:25] is that you're going through. And I

[43:27] don't think he is being honest with what

[43:28] what it is that he's going through. And

[43:30] beyond anything else, pray for his

[43:31] children. I I it is in a very

[43:33] unfortunate situation. I don't know that

[43:35] I would live in Miami. Um if this is

[43:37] what I was living with or going through.

[43:39] Uh and yeah, I just wanted to make

[43:41] people aware of that. Hollywood is fall

[43:43] falling, but the occult is not going

[43:44] away. A perfect segue by the way into

[43:47] Victor Marks, one of Erica's spiritual

[43:49] adviserss. We all get the ick. We all

[43:50] know something's wrong. Like it's like

[43:52] we listen to Frank Turk. We just go,

[43:53] "This doesn't feel godly, but you keep

[43:55] telling me it is." Well, Piers Morgan

[43:56] interviewed Victor Marks and tweeted

[43:59] that it was one of the most bizarre

[44:01] interviews of his career. Yeah. Well,

[44:03] what's funny about this is Piers Morgan

[44:04] has been hosting people, attacking me,

[44:06] as he always does, uh, saying I'm wrong.

[44:09] Erica's the widow. He always accepts the

[44:11] slop up in the beginning and then a year

[44:14] on he admits that I was right. And so

[44:16] watching him react to Victor Marks is

[44:18] like, "This is the door, Piers. This is

[44:21] what we're saying. TPUs faith is

[44:23] something else." else. What Erica

[44:24] brought in around Charlie is something

[44:27] else. And we noticed and I want to show

[44:29] you this clip of Pierce Borggan

[44:31] questioning Victor Marks on, you know,

[44:33] just some details about his childhood

[44:34] that he also shared with us on this

[44:36] show. Take a listen.

[44:38] >> I mean, if you're three years old,

[44:39] though, how are you cutting a cat's head

[44:41] off? That requires a a strength, which

[44:44] I've got three sons. None of them would

[44:46] have had the strength at three years old

[44:48] or the dexterity to cut a cat's head

[44:50] off. How have you done that? That's what

[44:52] people are finding a little bit

[44:54] suspicious.

[44:55] >> I understand if you put your hand around

[44:58] your son's hand on the knife of a dead

[45:01] cat, could you not cut the head off of

[45:03] it?

[45:07] >> It wasn't me.

[45:08] >> No, I would say with great with with

[45:10] great difficulty.

[45:13] >> Have you

[45:17] I haven't done it. No.

[45:18] >> [laughter]

[45:18] >> This leads me to the probably the most

[45:20] contentious story, which is that when

[45:21] you were seven, the same abusive

[45:24] stepfather forced you to kill a man. Um,

[45:27] now local law enforcement and sheriffs

[45:30] in the Mississippi area where this event

[45:32] apparently took place have said there

[45:34] are no records, police reports or

[45:37] unsolved homicides matching your account

[45:40] from that time period. So, just to be

[45:41] clear, what exactly do you say happened

[45:44] here? Who was the man? How did you kill

[45:47] him?

[45:49] >> Well, I didn't murder anyone because I

[45:53] was a seven-year-old who was forced to

[45:56] shoot a person. My stepfather, again,

[45:59] >> holding my hand around a pistol to a man

[46:02] who was handcuffed and on his knees, uh,

[46:05] put his finger over the trigger and

[46:07] pushed it until the man was shot. I

[46:10] don't know who he was. He, best I can

[46:13] remember, he looked like a homeless

[46:14] fellow. So you've no idea where this

[46:17] happened or who the person was when you

[46:19] can see why people might be saying,

[46:20] "Come on, Victor. Did this really

[46:23] happen?" I mean, I let me put it to you

[46:25] a different scenario, which is, and I

[46:27] don't want you to be offended by this.

[46:28] I'm just putting it to you because I

[46:29] know it's something that can be a

[46:30] phenomenon where people, you said that

[46:33] these revelations have come out very

[46:34] later in your life, that a lot of people

[46:37] when they've suffered abuse or trauma or

[46:39] whatever it may be, their mind can play

[46:41] games with them. It can it can you know

[46:44] persuade them and I'm not saying this

[46:47] has happened but many people find some

[46:49] of these claims outlandish that perhaps

[46:51] your mind is playing games and that

[46:53] these incidents didn't actually happen

[46:56] but that because of your abuse you have

[46:59] persuaded yourself that they may have

[47:00] done is that a possibility

[47:02] >> well I studied and the answer is it's

[47:05] possible I mean I studied false memories

[47:08] and had 123 visits to a trauma

[47:10] specialist This is nothing that I wanted

[47:13] to go back to, [clears throat] but it's

[47:16] something that was still affecting my

[47:17] life. And you know, we we live in a very

[47:21] evil world.

[47:24] >> Yeah, it's possible he made everything

[47:25] up. I'm glad he got to that point. It's

[47:27] definitely possible he made everything

[47:28] up. And yeah, like I said, Pierce, keep

[47:32] going because we've done a lot of work

[47:33] on this and he's not the only one that

[47:35] make maybe has false memories.

[47:37] Everything about Erica's past, you start

[47:39] looking into it and you're just falling

[47:41] through a dark hole. Everything she

[47:43] presented herself to be to Charlie is

[47:46] and you just want us to let it go. It's

[47:48] no, this is who she was bringing around.

[47:49] This is the first person who we we got

[47:52] Erica home, greeted her in her and

[47:54] Charlie's apartment, crying, sharing

[47:57] across Instagram. The These are You're

[47:59] looking at Turning Point USA faith and

[48:02] they want access to children. I They're

[48:04] all wacky. They're all crazy pastors.

[48:07] You got Frank Turk hoping you saying

[48:10] signaling that I should be struck down.

[48:11] Using the Bible, the good Bible of

[48:13] course to do it. Yeah. Keep going,

[48:16] Pierce. I think eventually you will

[48:18] start to realize why people have a lot

[48:20] of questions about the faith push that

[48:22] Erica brought brought to Charlie um

[48:26] through Turning Point USA. Anyway, um we

[48:29] are going to take a brief break and we

[48:31] will be right back. All right, you guys.

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[50:29] Okay. Top comment from yesterday's

[50:30] episode in my mom era writes, "I have

[50:32] never known people to be so eager to not

[50:35] solve a crime." Yeah, that's that's

[50:36] Turning Point USA in a nutshell. They're

[50:38] just not interested in exploring any

[50:39] other leads. They can't articulate why

[50:42] they think Tyler Robinson did it and

[50:43] they keep accusing us of being the

[50:45] people that are going off of vibes when

[50:46] actually they are the conspiracy

[50:47] theorists. They are going off of vibes.

[50:49] You can't just look at a blurry image

[50:50] and be like, "That's Tyler Robinson."

[50:51] That's crazy. That's absolutely crazy.

[50:53] You have to show some evidence of

[50:55] something. Make something make sense.

[50:57] And yeah, like I said, using influencers

[51:00] to lie to the public is actually just

[51:02] increasing uh the amount of people who

[51:05] generally find you and your behavior to

[51:08] be suspicious. It's like it's having the

[51:10] opposite desired effect. So maybe a time

[51:13] to switch game plans there. Second

[51:15] comment, this person writes, "Blake

[51:17] Nef's anger single-handedly makes the

[51:19] entire TPUSA look completely guilty."

[51:21] Yeah, I've never It's crazy that they

[51:23] keep allowing him to have a platform.

[51:25] Um, I I don't see what the upside of

[51:28] that is. Like, was that promised to him

[51:30] that he was going to take over Charlie

[51:31] Kirk show or something? I just don't get

[51:33] it. It's It's so abysmal. It like hurts

[51:35] them. And you wonder who is doing their

[51:37] PR because it is just so misguided and

[51:40] it just catalyzes their des like their

[51:43] descent into chaos. like it doesn't make

[51:46] any sense to the public what they're

[51:47] doing, why they're doing it, or why they

[51:50] think that by spending enough money or

[51:51] hosting these people, they're going to

[51:53] be able to convince people not to

[51:54] believe their own eyes and their own

[51:56] ears. I also want to offer an update

[51:58] yesterday uh when I was uh talking about

[52:00] the burial. I was a bit uneducated when

[52:02] I said that I believed that you were not

[52:05] allowed to be cremated as a Catholic.

[52:07] Somebody sent me an email and reminded

[52:09] me or actually informed me that actually

[52:12] under Novvice Ordo. So that is sort of

[52:15] the 60s update. Uh actually yes there is

[52:18] a document which discusses and beginning

[52:20] in the '60s I think in 1963 uh you are

[52:24] allowed to be cremated under certain

[52:26] circumstances and so the person linked

[52:28] that. So I want to issue that correction

[52:30] and also uh plead ignorance because I

[52:32] told you guys that when I was baptized

[52:34] Catholic um it was done in the

[52:36] traditional Latin rights. My priest is

[52:38] everything is Latin rights. Latin

[52:40] rights. It is not. I I attend Latin

[52:42] mass. I don't I don't know enough about

[52:46] noisordo is what I would say. And so I

[52:48] always want to correct when I get

[52:49] something wrong. Uh and that was Yeah,

[52:52] you were correct on that. I looked that

[52:54] up and sorry, that's why I shouldn't I

[52:57] don't speak too much on Catholic affairs

[52:59] because I'm still learning and I would

[53:01] be the most uneducated about Novas Ordo.

[53:03] So, there's that. Uh, comments from

[53:06] today's episode.

[53:08] True Detective writes, "After Charlie

[53:09] Kirk's murder, I watched a video of him

[53:11] saying that he wants to be remembered

[53:12] for the courage of his faith. This led

[53:14] me to enroll in OCIA and be baptized in

[53:17] the Roman Catholic Church this past

[53:18] Easter. His physical death inspired a

[53:20] spiritual awakening. Keep fighting,

[53:22] Candace. It is honestly tremendous to

[53:24] consider that the push after Charlie

[53:26] died was so evangelical that they were

[53:29] angry and nasty and bitter towards

[53:31] Catholics. Like you couldn't even just

[53:32] be like, "Oh, my last conversation with

[53:33] Charlie." I was like, "Take a step,

[53:34] become Catholic." And they were like,

[53:35] "Ah, influencers." And yet it again had

[53:39] the opposite desired effect. The

[53:40] Catholic Church grew so much after

[53:43] Charlie's assassination. And um

[53:45] obviously I'm sure you've seen this, but

[53:46] like the Southern Baptist Convention,

[53:49] the numbers have been way down and going

[53:51] down every year. And I think it's

[53:52] partially in part to do due, and this

[53:54] doesn't mean that every evangelical

[53:56] church is like this, but we've seen too

[53:58] many in the public eye uh using Charlie

[54:01] Kirk's name that appear to be completely

[54:03] and utterly fraudulent people um who

[54:06] take a position and a stage and say,

[54:08] "I'm his pastor. I was his pastor." And

[54:10] they just come across like complete

[54:12] sleas balls that are actually not

[54:14] dedicated to faith, not dedicated to

[54:15] anything other than making people

[54:17] support Israel. So, it is interesting to

[54:19] consider that. Also, welcome home as

[54:22] Catholics say. Kyle, it is just who I

[54:25] am, writes, so much selfoness in here

[54:28] right now. It's so hilarious that they

[54:29] are spending so much money to get

[54:30] accounts to say such brainless beef.

[54:33] They can't actually think it's doing

[54:34] anything right. I don't think they

[54:36] realize that we've hit critical mass and

[54:38] we know that they're doing it. So,

[54:40] doesn't work. It just doesn't work. It I

[54:42] feel like it's a waste of so much

[54:43] energy. Like, they could just be doing

[54:45] something else, but they have to do

[54:47] this. It's terrifying though that

[54:48] they're just sharing my address in

[54:50] private chats. These like they're they

[54:52] are deranged and obsessed in a way that

[54:55] feels dangerous. And we knew when that

[54:56] was all happening when they were

[54:57] publishing my kids' cars and stuff that

[55:00] and it was it was meant to scare me and

[55:02] it is scary. It definitely is scary um

[55:05] as a parent obviously that they just

[55:08] have no boundaries and that I I mean I

[55:11] would I have no interest in publishing

[55:12] Erica's address. Like why why would I

[55:14] want to be in a chat with 91 people

[55:16] being like this is this is where Erica

[55:17] lives? That's what is it about actually?

[55:21] Just respond to the questions that are

[55:22] being asked of you. The truth is enough.

[55:24] Like I said, nobody is trying to take

[55:25] down Erica Kirk. We just want to figure

[55:28] out who killed Charlie Kirk. And for

[55:31] some reason, those two concepts for you

[55:35] are synonymous. Finding out who killed

[55:37] Charlie Kirk is akin to taking down

[55:40] Erica Kirk. Why is that?

[55:42] Why is that? That's what we're getting

[55:44] from you. Ben the Beast rides. Huge fan

[55:46] of yours and Andrew Tate. I love the

[55:48] interview that you did with him. What

[55:49] are your thoughts on his most recent

[55:51] arrest? In my opinion, it's another

[55:52] Matrix attack. Keep up the amazing work.

[55:54] So, I had gotten very like whenever I

[55:56] comment on things, I always want to take

[55:57] the time to read files and understand

[55:59] what's happening and give offer my like,

[56:01] you know, I guess non-legal perspective.

[56:03] Like, I'm definitely not a legal

[56:04] professional, but I do feel like I

[56:05] understand legal documents. And I was

[56:07] very much involved in reading through

[56:10] his Romanian documents when the charges

[56:11] were against him. And I said, "This case

[56:13] is going to fall apart." And people came

[56:14] at me and were like, "How could you?"

[56:15] And then the case fell apart. I had

[56:17] never seen such clear evidence that the

[56:18] girl uh there were actual literal text

[56:21] messages in WhatsApp of of her

[56:24] describing what she was doing and trying

[56:26] to get a free ride to Paris or London.

[56:28] And so I gave my opinion on that because

[56:30] I felt like my opinion was educated. I

[56:32] have not had time uh given everything

[56:33] that's going on to look into the UK

[56:35] case. I always felt like Romania was

[56:37] kind of holding him because the UK

[56:39] wanted them. And so I've just been the

[56:42] only thing I know right now are the

[56:43] headlines which is like this is a case

[56:44] from just like Russell Brand. It's like

[56:47] very a long time ago. I need to go

[56:49] through the documents and I am intending

[56:50] to do that and to give my opinion on

[56:52] what's actually happening in the UK.

[56:54] Obviously it is utter madness that um

[56:56] Andrew and Tristan Tate are in solitary

[56:58] confinement and just and uh we are

[57:01] living in a time where he got taken in

[57:03] Florida the home of Jeffrey Epstein and

[57:06] Jeffrey Epstein just lived the greatest

[57:08] life there. nobody that is a part of the

[57:10] Pepsi network has been taken down. In

[57:12] fact, they have been covered up um and

[57:15] have been protected by this

[57:17] administration. And so my mind just goes

[57:20] to just that understanding immediately

[57:22] that if our any government was actually

[57:24] committed to taking down traffickers, we

[57:26] the entire Epstein um list and the

[57:30] people who were benefited and had

[57:32] relationship with Epste and went on to

[57:33] that island would be exposed and yet

[57:35] they are in power. So there's that. But

[57:38] I do intend to get into exactly the case

[57:39] and and to explain to the public what's

[57:41] going on with that. Tony Hill writes,

[57:43] "Hi Candace. Congratulations on the new

[57:44] baby. I'm always so happy for you every

[57:46] time. Except I know that you that the

[57:48] time will come where you have to take a

[57:49] break from the show to welcome the baby

[57:51] as I sit with Candace withdrawals. Lol.

[57:53] Thank you for showing us true strength.

[57:54] We love you." Yes, maternity leave

[57:56] always comes with the news of the new

[57:58] baby. And I do miss you guys and uh it's

[58:00] it is it just it's going to come around

[58:02] so quickly and then um I'll be gone, but

[58:05] then I'll be back. So there's that. and

[58:08] we'll have time to uh do a lot of

[58:10] research, which I can't wait for. That's

[58:12] why we take off every sixth or seventh

[58:14] week, whatever it is we do here, so that

[58:15] we can research uh because there's a lot

[58:18] of information and a lot of stuff that's

[58:19] coming out. And of course, um they're

[58:22] going to be announcing soon, I guess

[58:25] September, less like what is it,

[58:26] September 5th, Ashley, that they're

[58:28] supposed to be saying whether or not

[58:29] they're going to go through with the

[58:32] Tyler Robinson trial.

[58:34] September 1st. Okay. Yeah. So, less than

[58:36] a month and that's going to open a whole

[58:38] new can of worms. Like I said, I'm

[58:40] hoping it goes through. I I I I want to

[58:43] see this thing through and see what this

[58:46] looks like and how they lie and how deep

[58:49] this is. So, there's that. I I um

[58:53] certainly don't think Tyler Robinson

[58:55] killed Charlie Kirk on a rooftop and

[58:57] acted alone. Olympia writes, "It sounds

[59:00] like Perez had a psychotic break. It's

[59:02] very sad, but honestly, when you live a

[59:03] life like that, you invite demonic

[59:04] activity into your world, in my opinion.

[59:06] I agree. I agree. Um, all that glitters

[59:09] is not gold. And he's now at a he's a

[59:12] later phase in his life. He's

[59:13] understanding that his relationships

[59:15] were not real. Um, the what he did for a

[59:18] living really was not real. And he I

[59:20] think he's kind of floundering. He

[59:21] doesn't know who he is or what his

[59:23] identity is um outside of that early

[59:25] fame that he enjoyed. And that is why it

[59:28] is so important to build a life of

[59:30] substance. Uh a life with family, a life

[59:32] with friends that are not pursuing the

[59:35] uh public eye. Like when we laughed, I

[59:38] remember that guy Adam on PBD was like,

[59:41] "Where are Candace's famous friends?"

[59:43] Like what a bizarre thing to say. What

[59:47] does that mean? That's pursue real

[59:50] things in your life, things that are

[59:52] filling. And um yeah, you will be

[59:54] fulfilled. There's that. and have faith.

[59:58] That is the I really hope for him that

[00:00] he finds true faith. I think he's kind

[00:02] of in the wilderness right now. Lola

[00:04] Wild writes, "I love you, Candace. Let's

[00:06] give him grace. What if he was doing it

[00:07] for his kids because they were getting

[00:09] payback through a humili humiliation

[00:11] ritual or sacrifice one of his kids?

[00:14] Maybe leaving the cruy Hollywood cult.

[00:17] Pray for the kids." Absolutely. Pray for

[00:19] the kids. And I'm I'm giving him grace.

[00:21] I don't have anything bad to say about

[00:22] Perez Hilton. Like, he's never done

[00:24] anything to me that I know of. Maybe he

[00:26] has maybe there was actually an article

[00:28] or two that someone told me about. I

[00:29] it's just it's all it's not relevant to

[00:31] me and what I'm doing here. I just think

[00:33] that there is a broader conversation

[00:34] that needs to happen about what this

[00:37] symbolizes. And yes, there are elements

[00:39] of this that are demonic. And yes, you

[00:41] should pray for everybody, even your

[00:42] enemies, um when they are dealing with a

[00:45] spiritual possession. I'm just saying

[00:47] that we are watching and we have been

[00:49] watching the collapse of Hollywood. He

[00:52] signifies that moment in a way. and be

[00:55] aware of where that's reemerging cuz

[00:57] that's it's it's the fake faith grift. I

[01:00] think we all see that exact same thing

[01:02] with a Bible bend which is to me even

[01:06] more deeply demonic to be true to be

[01:08] honest. Okay. Um

[01:11] I think I answer everything. Oh, Damn it

[01:13] writes to all of her detractors. I must

[01:15] say there is a beautiful soul glowing

[01:18] within Candace Owens. There is a

[01:20] beautiful soul growing, I should say,

[01:21] within. Um, you know, just I just love

[01:25] my kids. They're so great. And I just

[01:27] have tons of kids, guys. I I just should

[01:29] say that. They just make you laugh.

[01:30] They're so funny. They're especially at

[01:33] this age where they don't know anything,

[01:34] but they think they know everything. And

[01:36] just the things that they say are just

[01:38] watching the way their brains work. I

[01:39] just every single day without fail,

[01:42] there's just a moment where I am just

[01:43] laughing so hard at something that one

[01:44] of my children has said. And it's it is

[01:48] important to give yourself that

[01:49] perspective, too, dealing with little

[01:51] people problems. Um, it, you know, it

[01:54] just makes me happy every day. That's I

[01:56] think that's the reason why I'm happy is

[01:58] because I have kids and they add joy to

[02:00] my life and I have a a full family life.

[02:03] Anyway, if you would like to support the

[02:04] show, you know what to do. Go to

[02:06] candace.com, buy some merch. Especially

[02:10] now that we've learned about this group

[02:11] chat, I think it's appropriate for you

[02:12] to buy a stop anti-andism. There's this

[02:14] is obviously a league that we are

[02:16] fighting. It's it's never been worse. Uh

[02:18] the anti- candism that is going on, the

[02:21] coordination 92 people, it's it's the

[02:22] right thing to do to show people that

[02:24] you won't deal with this kind of hate.

[02:25] It's a hate that mutates. It grows in

[02:27] group chats. They put uh my address

[02:29] there. It's getting dangerous. We need

[02:32] textbooks. We need textbooks to teach

[02:34] children. We need laws passed in

[02:35] Congress. This is a way that you can

[02:38] join um and show your support uh for me

[02:41] and again stand against strongly against

[02:45] anti-anism. It has been especially uh

[02:49] strong in the last year. So anyway you

[02:52] guys uh thank you so much. You know I

[02:54] love you guys. We will see you tomorrow.

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