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Candace Owens presents compelling evidence that a mysterious object found in Charlie Kirk's transport vehicle may be remnants of his burned shirt, supported by expert testimony from fashion industry professionals and medical personnel. She also confronts Blake Neff's suspicious inability to recall his whereabouts on the morning of September 10th, and exposes deep connections between Turning Point USA employees through Bank of America Merrill Lynch, including Danny Phillip's grandfather Thomas Patrick, who once convinced Owens that Kirk was moving behind her back. The investigation reveals a complex web of Chicago connections, Russian speakers, and military affiliations that raises serious questions about who was really controlling Turning Point USA.
Burning Evidence: The Shirt Discovery
After releasing photos from inside the vehicle that transported Charlie Kirk to the hospital, viewers and experts flooded Candace Owens with emails identifying a mysterious burnt object in the back seat. What initially appeared to be burnt cardboard was identified by fashion industry professionals, home seamstresses, and medical personnel as the remains of Kirk's polyester shirt.
A plastic surgery nurse explained that when polyester is heated, it melts and looks like burnt cardboard. The nurse described treating burn victims where polyester shirts had melted onto skin, requiring surgical debridement to remove the charred fabric. The email detailed how electrical current generates heat, and if Kirk's shirt contained polyester, it would have melted onto his skin during the explosion.
To test this theory, Owens and her team conducted an experiment, burning a 50% polyester mix shirt. The results bore a striking resemblance to the object found in Kirk's vehicle. While not identical due to different burning conditions, the comparison was compelling enough to warrant further investigation. Owens is now attempting to obtain the actual remnants from Kirk's vehicle for analysis.
Blake Neff's Convenient Amnesia
Blake Neff, who worked on Charlie Kirk's radio show, has become one of the most vocal defenders of the official narrative surrounding Kirk's death. However, when questioned about his activities on the morning of September 10th, Nef claimed he couldn't remember where he went or what he did for several hours.
Nef flew on the private jet with Kirk to Salt Lake City that morning. Two SUVs were rented to transport the group. One carried Kirk, Mikey McCoy, Frank Turek, and John McGovern to a restaurant event for Kirk's final interview with Andrew Smith. Nef was in the second SUV but claims he has no memory of where it went, who was driving, or what he did during that time.
When pressed during an X Spaces conversation, Nef stated they went somewhere to "mark time" but couldn't recall any specifics about the location, the driver, or his companion. He eventually confirmed he was likely with Danny Phillip, Charlie Kirk's young assistant who had just graduated from college in May 2025.
Owens finds Nef's memory lapse particularly suspicious given his military background in strategy and war gaming exercises for the Marine Corps. September 10th should be a day etched in everyone's memory, yet Nef conveniently cannot account for several hours of that morning.
The Danny Phillip Connection
Danny Phillip's presence on that private jet and in the SUV with Blake Neff takes on new significance when his background is examined. Phillip was hired fresh out of Ohio State University, where he ran the Turning Point chapter, to work as Charlie Kirk's personal assistant. This seems like an unusually important position for someone so young and inexperienced.
The key to understanding Danny Phillip is his grandfather, Thomas Patrick, who was the executive vice chairman and CEO of Merrill Lynch for 25 years in Chicago. Patrick was a major Turning Point USA donor who personally informed Owens via email in 2019 that Charlie Kirk was lying to her about money. This occurred during the same period when Owens was experiencing a smear campaign calling her antisemitic.
Thomas Patrick's career at Merrill Lynch ended in 2003 when he was escorted out of his office for allegedly orchestrating a political smear campaign against Eliot Spitzer. After Merrill Lynch was acquired by Bank of America in 2008, it became Bank of America Merrill Lynch, which becomes relevant to understanding the broader network.
The Bank of America Merrill Lynch Network
A pattern emerges when examining the family connections of key Turning Point USA personnel through Bank of America Merrill Lynch in Chicago. Danny Phillip's father, Steven Phillip, worked as a vice president at Bank of America Merrill Lynch in Chicago and majored in Russian Studies. Tyler Bowyer's father was also an executive at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, and Tyler's first job was at Bank of America. He majored in Russian Studies at Arizona State University.
Even more striking is that Dennis Brownay, Erika Kirk's cousin who showed her around Romania during the Black Sea Rotational Force deployment, also worked at Bank of America Merrill Lynch in Chicago from 2008 to 2022. Before that, he served in the military. After leaving the military, he went to work for Bank of America Merrill Lynch, then briefly stopped to escort Erika around the Black Sea Rotational Force.
The concentration of Bank of America Merrill Lynch connections, combined with the prevalence of Russian speakers at Turning Point USA, suggests a coordinated network rather than coincidence. Owens notes that Iryna Mappen, married to John Mappin who wrote a supportive letter about Kirk, remarked in a private phone call that she was disturbed by how many Russian speakers were in VIP at Kirk's memorial event.
The Russian Speaker Phenomenon
The number of Russian speakers connected to Turning Point USA is remarkably high. Tyler Bowyer is fluent in Russian, as is his father. Elizabeth McCoy and her entire Ukrainian family speak Russian. Rob McCoy adopted a girl from Russia. Danny Phillip's father majored in Russian Studies. Iryna Mappen is a native Russian speaker who found the concentration of Russian speakers at Kirk's memorial disturbing.
Owens questions why there are so many Russian speakers in Arizona and suggests this cannot be mere coincidence. The pattern suggests intentional recruitment or infiltration of the organization by individuals with Eastern European connections and language capabilities.
The Permission to Kill Report
While Owens was in Spain, the NCRI (Network Contagion Research Institute) published a report titled "Permission to Kill: How Candace Owens Built a Digital Assassination Culture Targeting Erika Kirk." The report featured a target with crosshairs and the word "kill" in red, accusing Owens of creating conditions that would lead to violence against Erika Kirk.
The NCRI previously published a report claiming "Christ is King" was antisemitic, which Charlie Kirk himself criticized. Johnny Moore, Andrew Kolvet's former partner, sits on the NCRI board. The timing of this new report, released on the first day of Tyler Robinson's trial, seemed calculated to distract from the actual investigation.
The report claimed that Owens calling Erika Kirk a "clinical psychopath" on the Shawn Ryan Show constituted creating a digital assassination culture. Owens points out the hypocrisy, noting that Blake Neff called her a "knife-wielding psychopath on a subway" and numerous influencers constantly attack her credibility and character. She questions why only attacks on Erika Kirk are considered dangerous.
Owens expresses concern that this report might be laying groundwork for a false flag event where something happens to Erika Kirk and Owens is blamed, similar to how 9/11 was used to justify the Patriot Act and curtailment of civil liberties. She notes that Charlie Kirk was emphatically opposed to the idea that speech equals violence.
Andrew Kolvet's Accidental Admission
Andrew Kolvet attempted to discredit Owens by claiming she was lying about her conversation with him regarding Benjamin Netanyahu's phone call to Charlie Kirk. However, in his attempt to call her a liar, Kolvet accidentally confirmed most of what Owens had been saying for months.
Kolvet admitted that Charlie Kirk politely declined having Netanyahu on his show and that Kirk took a phone call from Netanyahu months later after receiving a letter. These were facts that only Kolvet could have known and that Owens reported early in her investigation. Kolvet's admission validates Owens' credibility on these points.
The only detail Kolvet disputes is whether Netanyahu offered to "take Turning Point USA to the next level" and whether Kolvet lost out on millions when Kirk declined. However, Owens maintains her account has never changed and that this information came directly from Kolvet. She also received confirmation from a family friend of Kolvet who said he was venting about losing out on millions when he returned to California.
Owens questions why Kolvet never publicly confirmed these details earlier, especially when Netanyahu was pretending that Kirk had no issues with him. She points out that Kolvet knew Kirk declined to have Netanyahu on his show and that Kirk texted the night before his death that he was done with Israel. Kolvet's silence on these matters, Owens argues, makes him complicit in hiding the truth about the pressure Kirk was under from Zionist influences.
Frank Turek's Evolving Story
Frank Turek's account of attending the restaurant event with Kirk has grown increasingly problematic. It was confirmed that Kirk was in the green room with three people: Johnny McGovern, Mikey McCoy, and Kirk's cousin. Turek admits he left and went outside or left early, raising questions about whether he was actually in the green room with Kirk.
Turek's story about FaceTiming his grown adult sons from the back seat of the vehicle after Kirk was shot has never made sense. The claim that military-aged men in their 30s desperately wanted to watch their father's phone screen to see Charlie Kirk answer questions at a university event defies logic. Owens compares this to something a 13-year-old Taylor Swift fan might do, not grown men.
Turek has changed his story multiple times, claiming people are taking his statements out of context. He initially said he was on the FaceTime call, then later claimed he wasn't. Owens suspects the FaceTime story is a "limited hangout" where Turek is admitting to being on a live video feed but lying about who was actually watching. She theorizes that the feed was going somewhere else, possibly to multiple people, and that someone was monitoring what was happening in real-time.
The Hamptons Connection
Andrew Kolvet called Owens and told her about a Hamptons summit where Benjamin Netanyahu called Bill Ackman's house and offered to take Turning Point USA to the next level, which Kirk declined. Kolvet also described the event as an "intervention" and communicated that Kirk had declined to have Netanyahu on his show.
Owens emphasizes she could not have known these details unless Kolvet told her, as she was not at the Hamptons summit. The fact that Kirk declined to have the Prime Minister of Israel on his podcast demonstrates Kirk's state of mind regarding Israel and Zionist pressure. If Kirk was truly pro-Israel when he died, having Netanyahu on would have been a significant opportunity, yet he was relegated to smaller influencers.
This information, combined with Kirk's text message the night before his death stating he was "done with Israel," paints a picture of someone who was turning against the very forces that had helped build Turning Point USA. Kirk's friends knew these were discussions happening over the previous year, making his assassination even more suspicious in timing.
Bank of America's Epstein Connection
In March 2025, Bank of America settled with Epstein victims for approximately $79 million. The victims sued because Bank of America Merrill Lynch was managing wealth for major Epstein associate Leon Black, who appears throughout the Epstein files. Bank of America moved $170 million to Epstein.
The lawsuit alleged that Bank of America failed to follow their own protocols and flag suspicious financial activities, which would have led to discovering that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in a trafficking ring. This connection is particularly relevant given the concentration of Bank of America Merrill Lynch connections among Turning Point USA personnel and their families.
Owens had previously been investigating Erika Kirk's connections to a modeling firm where Epstein was known to operate. Jean-Luc Brunel was the founder of this firm. Owens wonders if Epstein's network was rebuilt around Charlie Kirk and if Turning Point USA became a vehicle for money laundering or human trafficking.
The Young Employees Question
Several very young employees were given VIP roles and privileged access on the day of Kirk's assassination. Katherine Locastro, a young woman, was on the plane with Erika Kirk escorting her after Charlie died. Danny Phillip, Charlie Kirk's assistant fresh out of college, was given a seat on the private jet but apparently had no duties to perform for Kirk that day.
Owens questions why these young, inexperienced people were in such important positions on such a critical day. She is investigating whether there are family connections between these young employees and the broader network of Bank of America Merrill Lynch executives, military personnel, and Tyler Bowyer's orbit.
The Call to Ben Shapiro
One of the most commented-on aspects of the Kirk assassination is that no one called 911, but someone called Ben Shapiro to provide live updates. Shapiro was receiving real-time information about Kirk's condition while Kirk was supposedly receiving life-saving measures in the vehicle.
Viewers have speculated that Frank Turek's FaceTime call may have been connected to how Shapiro was receiving updates. If Turek was not actually calling his sons but was instead providing a live feed to others, this could explain how Shapiro and his security team (which includes former IDF personnel) were getting minute-by-minute information.
The fact that Shapiro was prioritized over emergency services raises serious questions about who was really in control of the situation and what their priorities were in those critical moments.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. We
have a very interesting show for you
today. Took us a lot of prepping because
like I said, the obvious point of this
assault from the overwhelmed influencers
is to distract us from the actual
investigation. A lot of stuff is coming
up and so we have to return to it with a
very interesting lead regarding that
unidentified object in the back seat of
Charlie's SUV, the one um that he took
to the hospital. Well, they were
supposed to be providing life-saving
measures to him. Um, at the same time,
Ben Shapiro is getting updates. A lot
going on. What we didn't expect was to
receive a flurry of emails regarding
what that object might be. It's very
interesting. Also, Blakey Nef, man, he
is drawing, I guess, a a very
interesting blank regarding what he was
doing on the morning of September 10th.
It's bizarre. I'm going to let you hear
what he has to say. What he doesn't
remember. Strange day to not remember
things. There's an entire portion of
that morning that he just doesn't
remember anything. And I have a hunch
about why that might be. The person he
seems to be protecting. Very obvious to
me. Lastly, Andrew Kovette accidentally
admits that I'm not a liar while
accusing me of being a liar. It was
really strange. He's a total doofus, as
we already know. But there seems to be
sort of a corporatewide crash out that's
happening right now. And frankly,
they're all just saying too much. So,
let's see what we can learn from them.
Welcome back to Candace.
Okay, so top of show very quickly I want
to share with you guys uh those very
interesting flutter of emails unexpected
that we received when we asked the
question before we went on air. We
released more uh photos from inside the
vehicle that Charlie was transported to
the hospital in. And you can make out uh
what looks to us to be those shards of
glass from the road mic. But there was
this one identifiable object that was
left in the back of the car. You guys
might remember it. The one that I
remarked sort of looked like a burnt
piece of cardboard. I didn't really know
what to make of it. What? Why does this
look like a burnt piece of cardboard
with blood but sort of thickened? Here
it is a little closer here.
Well, we open that question to you guys
because I'm not an expert at everything.
Uh what I am good at is trusting other
people to be experts at things and
accumulating a bunch of information from
them. And when I see a pattern in the
emails emerge, I suspect that there's
something there. And there certainly was
a pattern that emerged. We had, oddly,
people in the fashion industry reaching
out, a ton of them, insisting
immediately and persistently that what
we were looking at was the remains of a
t-shirt.
Huh? I went, "What? Excuse me? Okay,
what are we talking about?" We had a
range, by the way. We had people who
were stay-at-home mothers who have sewed
their own kids clothing, uh people in
the fashion industry, and on top of
that, doctors, plastic surgeons who
emailed and said, "You are looking at a
shirt." So, with that that full
spectrum, I thought, "Oh, we got to take
a look at this." They were informing me
that when polyester mix or polyester,
entirely polyester shirts burn, they
turn into what looks like an almost
hardened plastic or cardboard. And I'm
going to read you just one of these
comments and one of these emails so you
can just I guess see what we were
receiving. Here's a YouTube comment that
came in. Really bad internet here. I
tried to respond when talking about the
little square thick piece. I have been
making clothing for years as a mother of
10. This piece is a collar from the
t-shirt. The black would more than
likely be from the burning of the
explosion, but the thick folded and end
that's facing the camera. Most surely
the bias band, the seam of the t-shirt
that looks clearly cut off. Again, this
was echoed by people in the fashion
industry. And then from our our tips
inbox, we got this from an actual
doctor. Take a listen to this. I mean,
I'm going to read this email to you. It
said, "Please call me a plastic surgery
nurse if you use this. Do not use my
name for they are evil and I take care
of too many people in my life for me to
be fired or lose my life." I started to
email during the question of the pulse
oximeter. Used one today. The silver I
believe is the uh hypothermia blanket
that comes in that medical pack. I think
you figured that out. Your mind is
asking the right questions. But what is
the charred burned thing on the ground?
It is his shirt. I have taken care of
multiple burns as a plastic and
reconstructive surgery nurse and that is
his shirt. How? Just flatten out that
bunched up piece. Flatten it out in your
mind. Flip over the right side in your
mind. The top part is the bloody top of
the white shirt. The back is scorched.
Why? How? Because electrical current is
hot and the shirt had some polyester in
it. When polyester is heated, it melts.
It does literally like it it looks
literally like a lit cardboard. I had a
patient that got burned by a grill and
his shirt melted onto his skin uh stuck
to the skin. Part of it looked just like
that. It only had a little polyester in
it. Polyester is plastic. It took a
procedure called debridement to get the
charred shirt off of his skin in spots.
The black is necrotic burnt skin, like
burning a piece of chicken skin. I'm
sorry for the visual, but it is dead
skin, burned skin. They likely ripped
off his shirt and ripped off his skin.
So, in my opinion, it is his shirt
burned polyester and charred skin. Do an
experiment. Find that type of shirt and
lay it on an electrical eye on the
stove. Think about what it would do to
the skin. Burn onto it. You see it all
the time at blank. You can call a burn
MD. Hope that helps. You are in my
prayers. Please be safe. Really safe.
Crisis king and never give up. Go Max.
So again, the repetition of these emails
made me think that the experts, the
people who work in these industries
might know what they're talking about.
and I suddenly was looking all over my
house for a polyester shirt. Couldn't
find one. Best I could do was a mixed
polyester shirt. Baron Coleman um was
here the other day and he told me that
he thinks that that particular shirt
that Charlie was wearing was 100%
polyester, but the best I could find was
a 50% polymix shirt this morning and we
are waiting to receive a full polyester
one. We went ahead and just started
burning stuff. Me and the team went
outside and we just started burning the
shirt and I'm going to show you the
result that we got. I was totally
surprised to see. Of course, we don't
have blood on the shirt that we burned,
but this is what we got.
And I have to tell you guys, I think
there is something here. When you look
at the other object, look at this. Look
at this comparison. We did this this
morning. On the right, on the left, you
are looking at that remain. And then we
had people that were telling us that
they think that that portion up top
that's quite thickened might even be
remnants of the road. Mike, I don't know
about that. But that tippity top part
that you're seeing is what she is
referring to when she says the collar,
the seam. I can see that now. We
received another email where a woman is
telling me that you're looking at the F
of the shirt. I can't quite make that
out. But I'm stunned by this. I'm
stunned that we were able to replicate
that. And it's not perfect. Obviously,
an explosion versus us just lighting
something in a fire pit is going to be
different. But I am stunned by that
plausibility. and we're going to keep
you posted. I think there is something
there. I'm actually trying to get my
hands on what was left behind in
Charlie's vehicle. I'm ever determined.
Moving on to Turning Point USA and their
affiliates. They are obviously losing
their minds right now. Okay, of that
there is no doubt. They are throwing
every stone, making every accusation.
They are getting their hands really
dirty and in the process of course
making things infinitely worse for
themselves because
the genius at the organization, well,
he's no longer here. Charlie Kirk was
the only one with any brains, it turns
out. But you can start to sense this
real desperation. You're wondering where
it's coming from. You got to bring
influencers to court. Andrew Kovat is
all over the place. I mean, and I would
say just taking a look at the big
picture, one of the issues is that they
lack focus. Even the um the influencers,
they race from one illogical point to
the next point, forgetting what their
accusations were yesterday that don't
add up to their accusations today. At
first, the mainstream talking point was
Candace secretly loved Charlie. She
wanted him to herself. She wanted to be
Erica. She wanted to marry Charlie, but
he didn't love her. But now they've done
a complete 180. While I was in Spain,
they shifted gears and they decided,
"No, no, no, no. Okay, that's not
working." It wasn't love. It was the
exact opposite. Candace secretly hated
Charlie. That's you're starting to see
all over the place. She hated him. That
came direct from Andrew Kovette. And
oddly Blake Nef, who I also feel that I
I haven't made this clear to you guys. I
don't know that man. I don't know that
creature. Blake Nef and me, we don't we
don't go back because he had nothing to
do with the Turning Point story. In
fact, he never worked for Turning Point
USA if he is to be believed, right? He
works on the radio side of things. He
didn't even get hired to work with
Charlie at all in any capacity until
2022 after um he was fired from Fox News
or had to move on from Fox News because
of some racist comments. He then work
went to work for Stu Peters. Um and then
he moved on to start working with
Charlie after Tucker Carlson recommended
him because he's loyal. Blake Nef did
not return that loyalty. Blake Nef
doesn't have a loyal bone in his body.
Yet, he has been the most vocally
invested person, I would say, at Turning
Point in making sure that no one asks
any questions, that no one investigates
the Charlie Kirk murder outside of the
federal narrative. Blake watched our
episode yesterday, as he does every day.
I know Blake personally uh probably had
his routine disrupted while I was gone
for two weeks. And he tweeted this in
response, quite odd. Quite odd. He said,
"I decided against my better judgment to
briefly turn on Candace."
Okay, Blake, you watch every episode.
And she was spouting some theory about
UVU's military affiliated student hub,
MASH, as a part of the conspiracy. Yeah,
I think that's enough for me. Remember,
Candace privately envied and hated
Charlie, and she wants his killer to be
get away with it. Okay, Blleyaky. Um,
weird thing to take away from
yesterday's episode.
Talked about a lot. It's an oddly
specific thing to hone in on. That
particular detail is something Blake
felt that he wanted to immediately
dissuade. It's a fact, by the way. Just
introduced a fact that on the third
floor of Veloi Center, we're seeing all
this video people going up and down. It
is the MASH student center, the military
affiliated student center. So, of
everything that he could be upset with
regarding yesterday's episode, why did
that fact disturb him? Less we forget uh
Blake's truer background is in military
strategy. He supported war gaming
exercises for the Marine Corps before he
was removed from that position following
racist commentary. So Blake himself is
or was military affiliated. And for
whatever reason, his memory regarding
September 10th, a day that is etched in
my mind in remarkable detail has grown
fuzzy. You see, we have to remember that
Charlie had an event before the event,
which I said was unusual. It's like he
didn't they didn't want him to land in
Provo. He does this this restaurant
event a his last interview with a guy
named Andrew Smith. He flies into Salt
Lake City, not Provo. Blake Nef was on
board that private jet with Charlie to
Salt Lake City on that morning. Mikey
McCoy was also aboard that jet. Mikey
McCoy rented just two SUVs in Salt Lake
City, which were uh to meet them. We
know that one was carrying Charlie and
Mikey McCoy and Frank Turk and John
McGovern who works in gifts at Turning
Point USA raises money for them. and we
assume security. We know it's not Dan
Flood to that Savory Fund restaurant
event for Charlie's final interview. But
it turns out the other SUV when they
landed carried Blake Nef
to
He doesn't know.
He doesn't remember.
He knows he didn't go to the restaurant
event, but he doesn't know where he did
went or why he woke up early to go
nowhere in Salt Lake City. Where did the
SUV go? Who was driving it? What were
they doing? I kid you not. Blake Nef
jumped onto an X space and is trying to
sell, but he just simply doesn't
remember what he did when he declined to
just go with Charlie for his final
interview. Take a listen. And I'm sorry
in advance. There's a lot of people
talking over each other. It's an X
space. So, it's a bit of a frustrating
listen, but you'll get the point.
>> At the Saver Fund interview with Andrew
Smith before he went to UVU prior, I
wasn't at that event. I was in the uh I
was in the other SUV.
>> So, where were you in between time when
you got off the plane? Where did you go?
>> I was in the other SUV.
>> Did you go straight?
>> Did you go straight to UVU?
>> We had two SUVs. I was in the one
Charlie wasn't in and I was somewhere. I
don't I actually have no idea where they
parked it.
>> What do you mean you don't know where
you were?
>> I've never been I'd never been to Utah
before. We had
>> So, you got off to playing with Charlie.
You jumped in the other SUV. Where did
you go?
>> We went somewhere. Why would I Why would
I
>> You went somewhere.
>> Why would I remember that? Like, can you
consider for just one moment that I did
not know that was going to
>> Did you go straight to the UVU event
>> around the Oram Utah area? We went
>> Surely you've been asked these questions
by the authorities, right?
>> Why would I be asked the questions like
that by the authorities?
>> Because you're a key witness to a
murder.
>> No, I'm not. I'm one of 100.
>> Surely you can Hang on. Hang on. Hang
on. Surely you can remember where what
you did that morning.
>> I'm a key witness to Charlie's life. I'm
not a particularly important witness to
the murder.
>> So, you got off the plane, you got in
the SUV. Where did you go? Crime scene.
>> Hang on. Let me finish the question.
Where did Where did you go?
>> What do you mean where did I go?
You got off the plane, you got in an
SUV.
>> Did you go to a restaurant? Did you go
to the club? Where did you go?
>> We drove somewhere and because I wasn't
going to that event, we just like parked
and we marked time until the actual Utah
Valley event. And
>> who else was in your car? Do you have a
security guy with you?
>> I I don't remember the specific people
in my car. Uh I believe I
>> Ah, come on, Blake.
>> Oh, why would again, why would I
remember all of these things?
>> It's pretty easy. It was just you and
Danny Phillip.
>> That might be who it was. Yeah, that
might
>> You could remember that.
>> Any takers?
Any takers on
you flew on a private plane, you landed
and you got into an SUV and someone just
men and blacked your memory and you have
no idea where the car went. You have no
idea who was driving and you have no
idea who was there because why would you
remember
you should remember because it's like
not every day that you take a private
plane to a place that you've never been
and get into an SUV.
It's bizarre.
And then you see at the end someone says
you were with Danny Phillip. Okay, so we
Danny Phillip flew with them. Um and
then beyond that, I don't know if more
people were in the car. Beyond that, the
only thing he can remember is that they
drove off and they went somewhere
unknown to, and I quote, mark time.
Where they went, they don't know. But
they went to mark time. I mean, if you
don't want to go to the event with
Charlie,
why wouldn't you just sit in the parking
lot at the event that Charlie was going
if you're just going to mark time?
Ladies and gentlemen, something is very
wrong with that lapse. Okay. And a piece
of what's wrong and what my mind
immediately went to is uh Danny Phillip
because who is Danny Phillip? That's an
important question actually. Uh Danny
Phillip is is very young. He just
graduated college in May of 2025. It's
hired right out of college um to work
for Charlie. Danny Phillip. You might
recall many moons ago when we discussed
Mikey McCoy's call logs. Before Charlie
got shot at 12:02,
Mikey McCoy was on the phone with Danny
Phillip. I thought they were just both
at the event. Maybe. I don't know what
that phone call was about. And then
after Charlie gets shot, he's on the
phone for 10 minutes with Danny Phillip.
I thought it initially was Danny
McQueen. No, it's Danny Phillip, this
young kid fresh out of college. Um, and
I got to thinking, you know, again, why
were there so many these new young
employees that day that were given such
VIP roles? Remember we discussed
Katherine Loccastro? She was on the
plane with Erica escorting Erica after
Charlie died. Why? Why would you take a
young girl? Such a serious thing. Do you
know each other? Danny Phillip, Charlie
Kirk's assistant. That's a pretty big
job. You know, he had interned for them
the previous summer. Uh, but he was
selected, this young guy, to fly private
with Charlie to go to Salt Lake City
that morning. But apparently he didn't
have to assist Charlie. Charlie Kirk's
assistant just went to go mark time with
Blake Nef, a tw How old is this guy? 21,
22 years old. He gets awarded a seat on
a private jet to then go be ushered into
an SUV to sit and do nothing. Well, how
about you go get Charlie some water? How
about you follow him around and shine
his shoes? What are you doing? Who are
you?
Like I said, you're 21, 22, and you're
taking like a $10,000 seat on a private
plane so you can go watch Blake Nef
breathe. No. Mm- We're not being told
the truth. Something's not right.
Like I said, Danny was hired in May of
2025. According to his LinkedIn, he
graduated from Ohio State University.
That's correct. He was running the
Turning Point chapter at Ohio State
University or was a part of the Turning
Point chapter and then he went straight
to work for Turning Point USA.
But this was not a random appointment by
any means. The fact that Blake Nef was
reticent to say he was with Danny
Phillip made me more interested in Danny
Phillip. I went to people at Turning
Point said, "Who is this guy?" Everyone
says, "I don't know." We're kind of told
it was a family friend and he got this
like big job working for Charlie,
you know, kind of quiet.
So I got to doing what I do best. I
said, "Okay, well, who's who is this guy
who got in the job? Why do I feel like
there's going to be a connection to
Tyler Ber?
You see, the key to understanding who
Danny Phillip is
is his grandfather,
who I was shocked when I discovered who
it was because I knew his grandfather
personally before he passed in 2021.
Thank you, Andrew Kovette, for reminding
me. You thought you were surprising the
internet about the fight that Charlie
and I had. You got to watch more of my
show. You got to ask Blake. We already
discussed the argument that Charlie and
I had regarding Ike Pearlmutter, the
check, the money, 2019 when I said I
felt that people were intentionally
forces were pulling me and Charlie
apart. Suddenly, there's this smear
campaign calling me anti-Semitic.
Um, and at virtually the exact same
time, Turning Point had this major
donor,
major donor was very, I thought, good to
me named Thomas Patrick. Thomas Patrick
personally informed me via email that
Charlie Kirk was lying to me about
money. That is Danny Phillips
granddaddy. You know, I got to know who
everybody's granddad is. And I like I
fell apart when I realized who his
grandfather was. I said, I know that
man. I still have a text messages
between me and Charlie regarding Thomas
Patrick's email to me and I'm going,
what is happening, Charlie? Literally,
what is h why are you what is going on?
And now I learned Danny Phillip is his
grandson. And I am, like I said, beside
myself. I I needed a second today to
process this because it returns returns
me to the theory that Charlie and I were
having our strings pulled.
And I'm going to tell you more. Thomas
Patrick was the um executive vice
chairman and CEO of Mel Lynch. That's
wealth management investment firm. He
worked there for 25 years in Chicago.
Big guy, boss, very connected, very
political. Okay, Chicago, not an easy
place to make it in. Uh, and he was at
the top of the food chain
until 2003. He was unceremoniously
escorted out of his office for a scandal
in which he was accused of, of all
things, orchestrating a political smear
campaign against Elliot Spitzer, who he
didn't like.
Now, Maril Lynch, um, for the
uninitiated, I'm sure you've seen it.
You're going, "That sounds like Bank of
America." Meil [clears throat] Lynch is
the wealth management and investment
firm. And like I said, 25 years there is
not a short tenure when you he he was he
was a top guy, top boss, executive vice
chairman. And he was so powerful.
That's stunning for me to process that
he played a big role in convincing me
that Charlie was moving behind my back.
You will note and remember perhaps in
2008 following the financial crisis,
Meil Lynch was acquired by Bank of
America. So it became Bank of America,
Meil Lynch. That's going to become
relevant because Danny Phillips's father
Steven Phillip worked for Bank of
America Meil Lynch in Chicago. Chicago.
Chicago. Chicago. Everywhere. At the
same time that he worked at Bank of
America Maril Lynch in Chicago, so did
Tyler Berer's father, major executive at
Bank of America, Meil Lynch, and he has
cleaned the internet of his LinkedIn
graduated from Arizona State University.
Another coincidence is that Danny
Phillip, his Meil Lynch, Bank of America
dad also, you know, Tyler speaks
Russian, majored in Russian studies.
Same for Danny Phillip's dad. I don't
know if you remember a long time ago I
was telling you that it is indeed
remarkable just how many people at
Turning Point USA are fluent in Russian.
In fact, I remember that being one of
the things that Arena Mappen, married to
John Mappen, he's the one who wrote that
beautiful letter about Charlie, fiercely
loyal, instantly said something's not
right. We need to know what happened.
He's married to Arena and Arena is
fluent in speaking Russian. And she
remarked to me in a private phone call
that the thing that struck her as very
odd about the memorial event was that
everyone was speaking Russian.
She was disturbed by how many Russian
speakers were in VIP. And that makes
sense. You've got Tyler Boyer. You've
got Elizabeth McCoy and her entire
Ukrainian family. You've got Rob McCoy
who adopted a girl from Russia. remember
there are just so many Eastern European
neverending ties when it comes to
Turning Point USA.
I I've just never seen so many Russian
speakers in Arizona. I bet.
Anyway, I want to show you this visual
guide that I put together because it's
this Bank of America thing is super
interesting to me. Okay, so you've got
Tom Patrick. Tom Patrick, major Turning
Point donor, uh Meil Lynch, top brass,
um before or right before it merged with
Bank of America. Um you've got Steven
Phillip, that's going to be Daniel
Phillip's dad who is the vice president
also in Chicago. Bank of America, Meil
Lynch, Russian Studies. You've got Danny
Phillip who gets this job as Charlie
Kirk's assistant um just ahead of
Charlie Kirk's assassination. On this
one, you've got Tyler, of course, I told
you he's the guy who hired everyone. He
knows everyone. And his dad who's an
exec at Bank of America. In fact, Tyler
Boyer's first job was at Bank of
America. And he is, you look him up from
the relic in looks like New Jersey and
Chicago. Uh at the same time as Steven
Phil. Then you've got remember Dennis
Brownay,
Erica's cousin, who showed her around
Romania, the Black Sea rotational force.
At the same time that these guys were at
Bank of America Chicago, so was Erica
France's cousin Dennis. What are the
odds? Everyone's just so connected here.
Bank of America Meil Lynch 2008 to 2022.
Um he was also involved in the military
before that as you guys know. After he
left the military, he went to work for
Bank of America, Mel Lynch, and then
stopped quickly to show Erica around the
Black Sea rotational force. Um, so
that's interesting.
That's really interesting to me. I was
interested. I'm going to keep looking
into all of these people that I thought
were just so young and very involved
that day and seeing if I could just sort
of piece them all together, their
families. If everybody goes back,
everyone seems to just kind of go back
and be in this orbit of Tyler Ber and
co. By the way, funny story. I don't
know if you knew this, but Bank of
America actually settled with Epstein
victims in March of this year. Yeah.
They were sued because they were
managing wealth, Bank of America, Meil
Lynch, of the major Epstein associate,
Leon Black. I'm sure you've heard of
him. He's all over the Epstein files.
and um Bank of America moved $170
million to Epstein. The victims sued
Bank of America for not following their
own protocols and flagging the
suspicious financial activities which
they said would have led to to the fact
that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in a
trafficking ring. Anyway, they settled
for I think like $79 million. That's
just an interesting fact that I wanted
to share with you all. We'll be right
back after a break. All right, you guys.
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just doesn't remember. He just doesn't
really I mean, they were just marking
the time. He doesn't remember who was in
the car, who was driving, what they did
for that entire interview while they
were in Salt Lake City. Were they
renting a car? By the way, I'd like to
see if maybe there was another decoy
vehicle. If you work at a um rental car
rental place, maybe just in in the area,
maybe Las Vegas around Salt Lake City,
maybe see if there were any cars checked
out. uh Dodge Challengers that may have
been rented. I just have a hunch that we
may have rented somebody. I'm not saying
Blake Nef, although there was a bald guy
scene with three people in it, but maybe
there was a car rented somewhere from
Provo, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas that
was a Dodge Challenger. I just find that
that might be interesting. If you know
anything, more tips at canon.com. Also,
maybe you saw a bald man that looked
like he was suffering from amnesia
on September 10th.
you were driving and you saw him on the
side of the road and he said, "I'm
marking time. I'm marking time." If
that's you, we want to hear from you.
More tips at candace Owens.com because
we've got a confused bald man who
doesn't remember what he was doing on a
very a day that seems to be etched in
the minds of people over the world, but
not him. Doesn't know what he was doing.
And beyond that, Frank Turk's story
about attending the restaurant event is
getting interesting because it was
confirmed that Charlie was in the green
room and he had three people with him.
We know for a fact Johnny McGovern was
with him. We know Mikey McCoy was with
him and we're trying to figure out and
we know his cousin was with him. Uh
we're trying to figure out did Frank
Turk not go to the Green Woman with him.
He admits that he left and went outside
or left a little early. And Frank Turk
keeps tripping over his stories like
quite a bit. And so was Frank Turk. Did
anybody see Frank Turk at the restaurant
event? Was he in the car with Blake Nef?
Like I said, everybody's memory is hazy.
We're here to help. More tips at
kennos.com. Tips at kennosins.com. And I
can't wait tomorrow. We got a huge lead
on who Ben Shapiro was at lunch with um
on the 10th, the morning of the 10th in
LA. And so we will be we're in the
process of vetting that information and
we will be delivering that information
tomorrow. Moving on, I do want to get to
this report that was published. Now, you
may have seen it was absolutely bonkers.
The same people that brought you Christ
is King is anti-Semitic. The NCRI,
they do focused reports on I think
really just me things that I say and
they were really pushing and pedaling a
couple years ago that Crisis King is
anti-Semitic. They released this po uh
report during Lent. It backfired.
Obviously, um chief among people who
were very critical of this report was
Charlie Kirk himself. And Charlie didn't
care that uh the NCRI
um had Johnny Moore on their board.
Andrew Kovat's old partner Johnny Moore
on the board of NCRI when the Crisis
King report was published.
This twerp. Look at him. And then he
also was a part of course of this report
that was published about me accusing me
on the day the first day of a Tyler
Robinson trial of being a digital
assassin. I'm sure even though Andrew
Coat was pushing this report that he had
no idea it was coming up. He's just
responding naturally. The PR guy.
Anyway, it's entitled Permission to
Kill. Look, kill is in red. Oo, they're
serious guys. Focus group sat down and
said let's put the word kill in red. And
they have um obviously a target gunshot
and then they a scope looking at
someone. It says how Candace Owens built
a digital assassination culture
targeting Erica Kirk.
Okay.
So what is the purpose of this? We
should talk about that. I got all of
these emails. It wasn't just them. Tons
of uh organizations while I was on uh I
mean tons of media groups were reaching
out asking me to comment on this. I
think we had Politico. What do you say
about the fact that they researched and
saw that it's because of you saying
Erica's a psychopath was one of their
points. Calling Erica a psychopath on
Shawn Ryan, which literally um aired
that week. That that leads to people
wanting to kill Erica Kirk. Calling
somebody a clinical psychopath makes
other people want to kill them. Really?
So, why aren't you guys doing a report
on like Andrew Kovad and Blake Nef?
Blake Nef referred to me as a knife
wielding psychopath on a subway. Did
that lead to me getting death threats?
Does this only work one way? What about
all these influencers that are
constantly calling me sociopathic,
crazy, a grifter, uh, targeting me, uh,
the widow, these people that are going
out there and have been nonstop
producing content about me since I said,
"Really, Christ is king?" Does that put
a target on my back? Oh, no. It's only
It's only Erica. You can't notice when
Erica is lying to you and recognize the
signs of someone who is clinically
dissociated and might actually be a
psychopath. Why would I want Erica to be
hurt? Why would I want somebody who is
dissociated to be hurt? Why can't we
discuss clinical terms um without you
accusing me of murder? Why are you
accusing me of of setting the groundwork
for someone to be harmed? I've never
done that. I've never ever done that.
had never said go out and I've never
even said don't go to Erica's events.
Erica's done that. Erica made personal
phone calls to priests telling them not
to attend an event that I was at cuz
that's how she behaves behind the scenes
while she in the front pretend she's a
victim behind the scenes. She's quite
nasty actually. That's a fact. She's
been leading these attacks against me.
I'm sure she was on the phone with
Johnny Moore cooking this one up. Maybe
she wasn't. If she wasn't then she
should be concerned.
Okay.
Because when I walk through this in my
mind, the absurdity of the case that is
before us, when I look at the non-facts
that are being presented, when I look at
their intent of bringing social media
influencers into the courtroom, which
just makes a mockery of a justice system
and proves that they do not have truth
on their side, I then in my mind take it
to its natural end. What are they going
to do? You're going to arrive at the
moment where everything unfolds. It
feels like we're there, right? It's all
coming apart at the seams. Blake's
coming apart. Andrew's coming apart.
Influencers are dramatizing,
collapsing, overwhelmed, just trying to
sell this thing, right? Like, oh, what
are we going to do? Everyone all out
assault on Candace, bringing out people
from the woodwork. They're like, Candace
took her pencil in third grade and she
has something to say. We're bringing her
on the show today. I really I did
actually in third grade. I I did erase
someone's name on homework, so I was
afraid to not turn it. Never mind. It
doesn't matter. Anyways, I hope they
don't find Kathy. I did take Cathy's
homework. I'd like to confess that right
now. But the broader point is what are
they doing? Why are they why are they
appealing and going into the woodwork
and bringing all these people out and
attacking me non-stop? It feels like
they're losing
big time. I mean, they're getting
delusional. Candace has no audience.
It's over. She's crashing and burning. I
mean, like, what are we talking about?
Is it possible that to deal with this
they're going to like kill Tyler
or or they're going to like make up some
plan and pretend like Erica couldn't
deal she was overwhelmed and then
they're going to go oh we're pinning it
on Candace and now we also have the dial
back speech laws. Doesn't that seem like
they're they're kind of setting the
stage for that? all of the usual
suspects coming out with something that
does not pass the sniff test because no
one deals with more online attacks on a
daily basis than me.
Tens of millions of dollars is being
spent. I am listed, me and Tucker
Carlson in the faradox. They're
admitting it. They're not hiding it. We
have to take down Tucker and Candace
Owens and we're willing to spend the
money to do it. And yet nobody makes a
report and says if Candace anything
happens, if anyone says anything about
Candace, they're digital assassins. They
don't put somebody else in a scope.
What gives? It feels to me like it could
be the beginning of a plot, a government
plot. We can't win this thing. We need
to get influencers, independent
journalists off of this entirely. We
need a big event that allows us to crawl
back speech. Think of it like 911. 911
happens and then it's like, well, we got
to take away your freedom. We got to get
this bill passed immediately. Take your
shoes off and belts off at the airport
and now the government is allowed to spy
on you
because this terroristic event happened
and we're doing this for safety.
I feel like that needs to be said that
people are sensing that that's their
plan here, you know, to pull like, you
know, Erica got harmed by someone or
Erica harmed herself and this none of
this would have happened if it wasn't
this culture of quote unquote digital
assassination. And may I just state
emphatically
that Charlie Kirk was so opposed to this
this idea that speech equates to
violence.
When you're not calling for violence,
you're investigating real violence. And
now they're saying you investigating the
violence is the violence.
Huh.
Charlie was emphatically against that.
And the fact that Andrew Kovette is
sharing that and perpetuating that
culture, well, just reinforces what
we've always known. Andrew Kovette is a
traitor. My dream was correct. Check.
Accurate.
Speaking of Andrew and the Chyros
company and Johnny Moore, Andrew Kovette
during his crash out um was still trying
to protect BB but in the process
admitted that I was telling the truth. I
have maintained I think since September,
it might be October. I haven't changed
my story once that Andrew Kovette called
me and he told me about the Hamptons. I
my source was Andrew Kovette. It was I
told Erica that when we met face to face
and uh she conceded that yes BBNet and
Yahoo did call at Bill Aman's house. Now
her reason for Bill Aman calling was
that he was following up on the letter
that Charlie wrote him in May but that's
not what Andrew Kovette told me. He told
me that BB offered to take Turning Point
to the next level and Charlie said no.
That's all he said. And Charlie said no.
He also described how he des the uh
Hampton Summit was like an intervention.
And he also uh communicated to me on the
BB front. That's all he said. But he
also communed to me that um Charlie had
declined to have BB be on his show.
These are things that I could not have
known. I I was not at the Hampton
Summit, right? I was not at the Hampton
Summit.
So, how did I know that BB called? If
I'm not telling the truth, how did I
know so early that BB Net and Yahoo
called and made this phone call? How did
I know that Charlie something that only
Andrew Kovac could have known in that
same phone call that Charlie declined to
have BB on which demonstrates the state
of Charlie's mind against BB. That's the
prime minister of Israel. If Charlie was
pro- Israel when he died, that'd be a
pretty good guy to have on your podcast.
But instead, he was relegated to smaller
influencers because Charlie didn't want
to have him on. He was turning against
Israel. It was not a joke when he texted
the night before that he was done with
Israel. Everyone saw it coming and
people who were his friends knew that
these were discussions that we were
having over the last year. Anyways, this
is what Kovette tweeted. He conceded
basically every part of that
conversation except for the offer. He
said this again. This is Candace
admitting that she has zero proof. I
asked for proof and she screams, "I'll
take a lie detector test. Guys, I
promised." She's adding caveats,
hedging, changing her story. Literally
not changed my story once. But it's
important to point out what she just did
here. The psychology behind it is wild.
Okay, cool. He's going to pretend he's
smart now. She gets called out for a
bald-faced lie, a central lie to her
entire narrative. Then he immediately
retreats back to two true things that
are insignificant in an attempt to
confer truth onto the original key lie.
So he's saying, I'm playing the game two
lies and one truth, [laughter]
for what reason? Then he had concedes,
yes, we politely declined having Netany
and Yahoo on the show. So what? And yes,
months later, CK took a call from him
after he wrote him a letter again. So
what? Neither are extraordinary and
neither explain her next ridiculous leap
that Netanyahu offered to take TPUSA to
the next level and that I lost out on
either millions or billions when CK
declined all complete idiocy. Okay, so
beyond this doesn't even matter. He's
admitting that I told the truth. I have
stuck to the exact same story. I have
not pivoted once from my story that
Andrew Kovette told me this and so now
he's saying well I she told the truth
like 75% but then that last point was
definitely a lie and she just maintained
that lie forever. Why would I maintain
that lie? It's what I was told. It's
what from Andrew Kovette. I've never
changed that. And then it was confirmed
from a family friend of Andrew Kovette
who wrote me and said that Andrew said
that he lost out on millions when
Charlie said no. So that Charlie said no
came from Andrew Kovette. And the fact
that he lost out on some residual income
came from somebody who confirmed that
that yes, that did actually happen uh
because he was venting about that when
he came back to California.
Andrew, beyond anything else, why didn't
you confirm this earlier that I was
telling the truth? Was it weird for you
when BBNet and Yahoo was pretending that
Charlie had no issues with him and it
was all love? When you knew that Charlie
declined to have him on the show? When
you knew uh the night before that
Charlie was a fearful that he was going
to be killed? When you knew the night
before that he was on uh a text thread
saying that he had no choice but to
abandon the pro-Israel call uh cause.
Things that you never wanted to tell the
public. You never told the public any of
this. So, the fact that you're finally
conceding to the majority of it doesn't
make you look like a good guy. It makes
you look like a scumbag because you
should have told the public first. Erica
should have told the public first. It
shouldn't be me that is telling people
what he was living through with the
Zionists who were peerressuring him and
growing increasingly more maniacal in
their exam in their demands of who he
was allowed to speak to, who was allowed
to speak at his events. Charlie was done
with it.
You lied. And by the way, I don't think
silence is violence, but I do think your
silence is cowardice. Your silence uh
does actually commit onto you some
guilt. It's way we're way too far down.
10 months later, you admit that I told
you about everything and you're still
lying about the last bit. You did tell
me that BB Netanyahu called and offered
to take Turn Points next level next
level and Charlie declined just like you
declined him on his show.
So, I will leave it at that. Uh, you do
not look good. And I think the entire
world can see that you are the Judas of
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All right, so our top comment from
yesterday's episode came from Tori. She
wrote, "No one called 911, but someone
called Ben Shapiro." Let me tell you, we
had some interesting feedback. People
said, "I bet it has something to do with
Frank Churik and his FaceTiming."
Who was he facetiming? Who was watching
that live feed from the back seat?
That's been, I think, the number one
guess that people had in the comments
yesterday that it's going to be Frank
Churik and that live stream, which never
made sense. The story is just so stupid
on its face that he was facetiming his
like grown 35year-old sons in the middle
of the day at 12:23 because they just
love Charlie Kirk so much. They want to
hear him in basically something that's
structured, an amphitheater. They can't
hear anything. Ah, [screaming]
screaming. They just couldn't like get
tickets to an event or go to something
like SAS. It was just the UVU event. And
they were like, "Please, Daddy, please.
We just love him. We just please. I want
to hear him answer questions. You're a
grown man and this is what you're
doing." The grown men, they I was just
FaceTime. They just love watching
Charlie. This is what the whole story is
stupid. Okay. It doesn't doesn't pass
the sniff test on its f like why go be
an adult. Adults don't do that. Was it
like a Taylor Swift? Yay, Taylor Swift.
Maybe a Taylor Swift fan who's 13 years
old would do that. 100% they would do
that. I'll watch her through I love her
so much. I'll watch her through FaceTime
on your phone from the audience. Not
grown military men. Something's not
right about Frank Turk's story as well.
And he's changed it. He keeps getting
caught and oh, I misspoke. This is I
didn't mean that. And oh, people are
taking my stuff out of context. I said I
was the on the FaceTime call forever and
now I say I'm not. It's me versus me.
Frank Turk is messy. He is messy. And so
I do wonder while he was live streaming
and accidentally left it in the pocket
if that's like a limited hangout. He's
telling us a little bit there. Somebody
was on the phone on live stream. Maybe
more than one person. That feed was
going somewhere.
He was in that car and he wasn't just
praying. Maybe it's all going to come
out. I do believe that. Um, Moses also
had a top coming. He wrote, "Uh, wife,
honey, there's an intruder in the house.
I'm scared. Husband, call Ben Shapiro."
Just for live updates. Just for live
updates to his security team. That's it
happens to be former IDF people or I
don't know if you ever really leave the
IDF in MSAD. Um, we'll see about that.
Anyway, uh, comments from today's
episode. Let me scroll down. Alli
writes, "No matter the outcome of the
trial, but doesn't change a thing when
it comes to the shameless lies by Erica
in Turning Point USA. They betrayed his
legacy to Zionist, lied about the Iran
war views, abandoned Massie and Tyler
Robinson. Being found guilty does not
change these facts."
Look, I I think what I have shared with
you is Erica also suffered from amnesia
when it came to remembering how she knew
Tyler Boyer. And they seem to have a lot
of connections to Eastern Europe, the
two of them. Uh Arizona, Romania, and
now Chicago. Yeah, this this feels like
Erica was sent to fall in love with
Charlie Kirk. I've said that. I've
shared that. And I find it interesting
that we still can't get answers. The
attachment I had already began pulling
out the threads of Erica hanging out at
this modeling firm uh where Epstein was
hanging out. Jean Luke Brunell was the
founder of it. And I had wondered about
Erica's connections, potential
connections to Epstein world. Now we
have
what further connections? Did it just
get rebuilt around Charlie Kirk? Um part
of Epstein's network. a great place.
What is it? What are they concerning?
Launder money, right? Traffic people,
humans into organizations. I mean,
the picture of what Turning Point
became, in my view, is very bleak. And I
think it was intentional. Like I said to
you, I sense from the beginning, they
intentionally pulled me and Charlie
apart because I was the only person that
Charlie hired organically with Tyler not
being present on the spot. And then I
feel there were handlers after the Kanye
moment. And I told you Erica was playing
both sides of that as well. And I have
proof of that. And I'm still trying to
get the person who presented that proof
to allow me to share it publicly. But it
is literally Erica um saying that she's
got people inside the Kanye thing. And
Charlie and I had no idea. This is at
the beginning of their relationship. He
wasn't even officially dating her when
that Kanye stuff happened. So there were
external forces u that were at play
there.
Seven sheets writes, "It has been a huge
mask off time for the people who attack
you. Bravery, integrity, faith, and an
insatable quest for truth sets you
apart. You'd think his other friends
would welcome this. We appreciate and
support you in faith and prayers. Thank
you so much." Um Ryan writes, "Listening
to my 12-year-old while hearing Blake on
an exace that she put her head in her
hands and said, "What makes it worse is
that they're not even good at lying.
She's right. That is the frustrating
part. They're not good at it. I don't
know. I blacked out. I don't remember. I
know it was in the car.
Continued prayers for you, your family,
and your mission for truth. St. Michael,
pray for us. Christ is king. Indeed.
Tony Hill writes, "Hi, Candace. What do
you do on a daily basis is more than
investigating Charlie's murder. You're
opening the world's eyes to the
corruption that has plagued us for
decades. I don't know if Melania is
still your best friend, but you are
mine. Lol. Much love." I think I it does
bring me comfort to know that Charlie
knew his death would be tied to this
sort of a global awakening and it is
deep and it is connected and [snorts] it
is disturbing that they thought through
in my view using faith
like okay it'll be untouchable as long
as we give it a a spin a biblical spin
on what we're doing like the most
corrupt despicable pastors ever
lecturing us uh and telling us that we
have to get in line with corruption and
filth and rot and perversion
uh with um sexual devian, bunch of gay
men working at a company um all sleeping
with one another. This is the turning
point. No, it's not actually. It's
actually not. How's that feel? You're
you're completely out of control. Nobody
believes you because there's nothing to
believe. There's no truth in anything
that you guys speak ever. And even a
12-year-old can see that.
Zamut writes, "There is no freedom
without truth. I completely agree." And
this user writes, "I had hoped that you
were going to do competing Super Bowl
halftime broadcast, but anyway, we can
ask you to broadcast at 9:00 p.m. on
Thursday. That is the time slot for
Trump's address to the nation. Maybe we
will do a live." I I just can't stand to
hear him speak to be honest with you.
Um,
I just can't I mean there I told you
after Chuck Kirk's assassination and the
lack of words he shared, the lack of
demands for an investigation, he's had
nicer things to say about Lindsey
Graham. More to say about Lindsey
Graham, I suppose, than about Charlie
Kirk who got him elected. I just I'm not
interested. I'm going to force my
producers to watch it and tell me about
it. Sorry, guys. I'm really sorry.
Skylar's having a really rough week.
We're making him do all sorts of things.
You're just burning a t-shirt. You can
imagine working here. It's completely
insane. It's completely crazy.
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just feel so refreshed right now and
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see you guys. What I say tomorrow we'll
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And then I also have a most unusual
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