Josh Petersen Exposes Turning Point USA: Underage Drinking, Israeli Operatives, and Charlie Kirk's Assassination

Bye. Okay, I think we're live. And I hope that this is a better streaming account. I hope we're not blurry this time. >> We're live on YouTube again. >> The audio is fine. I don't um >> Oh, I think we are live. >> Yeah, we are. It says live. Sorry guys, technical difficulties. Is it the same live video as before? >> No, Josh. >> Here we go. >> Yes. >> Thank the Lord. >> Well, you're here. >> That's amazing. Okay, so should we give the backstory again since now it's working? >> No. with him now. >> Yeah, I think a lot of people got the backstory. >> Yeah. So, a lot of you guys already know who Joshua Peterson is. He used to work for Turning Point. Um, he released a couple videos on social media. A lot of them have been removed. Um, [clears throat] we have some questions for him. So, instead of going backtory about what his videos were about, we're kind of just gonna let him explain himself. >> What are you doing, Josh? >> Oh, I was just walking out to my car. Sorry. >> Okay. It sounded like your I don't know. >> Like my little studio. >> Yeah, that that [laughter] a good studio. Um, >> thank you so much for Oh, that was crazy. I should have just listened to Baron from the start. It's okay. It's new. >> Very new. We've never done this before, but okay. So, just to jump into it to stop wasting people's time. We're really We're sorry about all of that. So, just to give our audience a sense of who you are, um can you just give us a brief description about yourself? How old are you? >> I'm just 21 years old. Um I live in Sacramento, California. So, I moved out here um just a couple months ago. I moved out to South Carolina about a year ago and lived out there for a little bit, but I lived in California my whole life, so I decided to come back. >> Oh, really? >> Wow. >> I'm from Orange County. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Oh, nice. >> Where are you from? Are you from Sacramento? >> Yeah, I was born and raised Sacramento. >> Okay, cool. Yeah. Um also lived in Arizona before, too. I went to Arizona State. So you what years did you work for Turning Point? You're 21. >> Yeah, I worked uh for Turning Point from 2023 to 2024. >> So how old were you when you first started working for Turning Point? Because I know Turning Point likes to hire people like right after high school. Correct. >> Charlie even wrote that book. It's like don't go to college. >> I was 17 and a half when I went to training. So >> Wow. Whoa. >> You were graduated, right? Yeah, I was graduated. >> Okay. So, before we get into that, so you left Arizona. What are you currently doing for work now? >> Currently, I do solar work and roofing installations. So, kind of a big career switch for me, but I also do public speaking on the side. So, >> Okay. So, you said you started working for Turning Point when you were 17 and a half. >> Yes. And correct me if I'm wrong, but um when you when you said you were first hired, right, people at Turning Point took you out. >> Correct. >> So, were you underage at the time? >> Yes. And so were many other representatives as well. >> Wow. So, you're saying that people from Turning Point USA took underageed new hires out in Scottsdale on party buses and got them intoxicated. >> Correct. >> Wow. That doesn't really align with their values, does it? >> Not at all. It made no sense to me from the start and I was completely taken aback from it. >> And so, how did you get the opportunity to work at Turning Point and like you apply? Did someone recruit you? >> Yeah, I was uh recruited through Turning Point Faith. I worked under Boomer Bennett. Um he was the manager for Turning Point Faith in the West for them. So I worked as a church coordinator at my local church, Destiny Christian Church. Um that's located here in Rockland. And um I worked under them for about a year. And that's when I was kind of poached by Turning Point's main branch. They had a representative come in to the church and talk to me and say, "Hey, there's an open position at Turning Point. Like, I'm leaving the position." They said to come get you to apply for it. So, like, go send in your application and Yeah. >> Wow. Okay. And so, you were recruited at a very young age. How did they did they take you guys to bars in Scottsdale? Because I remember in your video you said that you guys took a bus that had like stripper poles on it >> and then they took you out and got you drunk. >> Also, I just wanted to mention on that point, I have been in like a like a public transit like a private bus that was rented before and it happened to have a stripper pole in it and I was like, "Oh, that's weird." But like maybe it was the only van that they had. So when you first said that at the very first part of your video, that was the first video I ever saw from you. I was like, "Yeah, whatever." Like I've been there, >> right? Like a lot of party buses have stripper poles in it. But like to to have like a Christian conservative >> conservative though that's where I was >> take underage kids that are 17 >> and that's what I also >> out in Scottdale. How did they get you to to bars in Scottdale if you were under 21? >> Yeah. So um the first bar that they took us to which was with all the administrators. So I'm talking all the higherups besides Charlie obviously he was not a part of this. But um >> speaking of like the college, the person who ran the college department, the person who ran the high school department were there and they took us to a bar called Buffalo Chip in Arizona. >> Oh, that's an 18 and up bar. Um >> Okay. >> Which is already kind of weird as it is. You know, it's a kind of unmoral unmoralistic for Christians to go to bars as it is. So, it was kind of weird. Um, and then the second uh day that we went out was with the senior representatives of Turning Point and those people got us into the bars. The bouncers did not ID anyone because they knew these people that were taking us in and just trusted them, I guess. Um, and these people went and bought us drinks at the bar and said, "Hey, drinks on us. Like, get as many as you want." And would just keep buying rounds. It was really weird. And they were totally aware that you were under the age of 21. >> Absolutely. Yeah. >> Wow. Okay. >> So, are any of these people and I know you can't name them. I know you have that NDA. >> Yeah. Josh has an NDA that lasts until 2035. >> That's insane. >> Two questions. One, did they make you sign that NDA like when you left or right when you got hired? Like >> it was day one. As soon as you walked into the training room, that was one of the first things they had you do. >> Okay. Very interesting. Second question. Hold on. Um, >> so all those people that you're not allowed to name. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> how do I word this? Are they in the news right now? Are any of them in the news and being talked about? >> Well, I know something. >> No. >> Okay. >> Not a lot of them. >> Okay. Yeah. I didn't figure because I didn't think someone like Brian Harple, head of security is going to be taking out the 17-year-old to the strip club. >> Right. >> But [laughter] someone that is in charge of hiring that >> Tyler >> is very known is Tyler Boyer. >> Correct. >> Correct. He says correct. >> Tyler is also big in the news right now. So I feel like if I asked like are any of these people in the news currently? I feel like he wouldn't have straight up said no. Well, I don't want to answer for him. Well, he can't. Well, he can't answer for him either. [laughter] >> I would say that a lot of the people that were involved with the situation when I was there were not publicly brought out yet and they probably won't be more than likely. Okay, that >> because some of these people are not bigger figures within the company, although there are some administrators that are lesser known that I would also consider to be a part of it. >> You have named a few that we've talked about in private and I will confirm that here. Um, I just can't publicly say their names as you know. >> Okay. Right. Are you able to say who interviewed you or who hired you for the positions? Okay. >> Yeah, >> his name was uh Chris. Um I can't go into last names, but uh Chris hired me. He was the college um representative hire and he everyone went through him for the college department. So yeah. >> Okay. And are you are you aware or are you pretty certain that Charlie Kirk did not know that that there were people that worked for him that were taking underage kids out drinking? >> Absolutely not. He had no idea about this. And I know about this because Charlie wasn't there for the first couple days of training at all. He was actually on a trip doing um I think an event. Um but he was not there when this was happening. And this was actually a pretty common occurrence where he wouldn't be there during training time. He normally had a lot of events in August, so it he was never really there. >> Okay. >> Right. Um, hey Josh, would you mind just turning the volume down on your phone by one really quick or two? Will you still be able to hear us in that case? >> Yeah, >> perfect. Okay, because I I've seen some comments of people saying that it's a little echoey. >> Oh, cool. I can't hear it at all now. Um, and what were your dates of employment? Just because I know there were people online that were saying, "Oh, did he even work for Turning Point? How we how can we verify that he worked for Turning Point?" Which you've sent us photos of you at Turning Point events working with people there, so we know and other people have reported that it's verified that you worked there, but what were the specific dates that you worked or the the months and years that you worked at for Turning Point? >> Yeah, so I was a contracted employee. I had a school year contract with them. So it was from August of 2023 to June of 2024. >> Okay. And >> Wow. And you got to meet Charlie quite a few times within that within those years. >> What what division of Turning Point were you involved with? Because there's Turning Point Action and then there's Turning Point USA. And what was your >> I was part of Turning Point USA. I was a college representative for their uh Northwest Territory. So I covered the Sierra Territory. Um that's coverage of northern California and northern Nevada. So I covered every college campus in that area. >> Okay. So you were traveling quite a bit. >> Yes, a lot. >> Did you like it? >> It was a really awesome job. Yeah. >> And like what was like your daytoday like? >> Um the average day it was very chaotic to be honest with you. Um, most days were driving from Sacramento up to Chico, um, and then out to Tahoe from there all in one day is a majority of the time. So, it was pretty chaotic. >> Okay. Dang. >> And so, like who who were like the main people that you worked with that maybe are still there right now? >> Chris. >> Yeah. [snorts] >> Um, Chris is one of those people. Um Tyler is one of them as well. Um Charlie Kirk, I worked with him several times. I had many events with him at Destiny Church, too. That is documented and well known. So if anyone doesn't believe me, they can look at that. Um >> but um a lot of the people that I did work with have left the company because of the same reasons that I have for leaving surprisingly. Um, but they are too afraid to speak out sadly. And I've tried convincing them, but that just hasn't Yeah, >> I can only imagine. >> So, you've spoken to these people and you're like, "Hey, we should speak out about this." And they're like, "No, I'm not I'm not going to do that. I'm afraid." Or >> Right. I have a text message that I can send you guys after the live to um from one of them that said, "I'm afraid for my life if I speak." >> And are you not? They're afraid for their life if they speak out against turning the blame. Of >> course, >> correct. >> I'm just verifying what he's saying just so everyone is hearing that. >> Um, were you not afraid like how long did you contemplate because you posted this video like what 10 days ago now or at least that's when I saw it and this is, you know, two months after it happened. And also follow-up question to that, how long did it take you to realize because I went through your Instagram and I saw like your past stories that you posted about when Charlie was first assassinated and it didn't seem like you were too skeptical up until maybe recently. >> Right. At first, I would say I wasn't too skeptical. You know, I just thought as anyone else would. It was just a crazy left lunatic that went and shot Charlie because of what he did and his views. But then I started thinking a little deeper about it and I'm like, you know, you got to realize who Charlie was and what he did and the impact that he made in the United States. He led the biggest youth conservative organization in history. >> Absolutely. >> He is solely the reason that Trump won the last election, too. And that is well seen in the numbers. Yeah. >> And with that being said, that kind of led me on to believe, okay, maybe there was some foreign influence in what happened to him or maybe there was some motive from inside. And I started watching Candace Owen's videos more and more because she had the same thought process as me. And the thing that I've been telling everyone that I've talked to about this is questions don't hurt anybody. And I wonder why everyone is going after Candace Owens so hard and calling her such a conspiracy theorist and a psycho just for simply asking questions. >> And that simply >> is what made me start digging deeper into everything and truly discovering what I did. >> Yeah. It's called the Stryand effect. >> Yeah. cuz she's just going, "None of this adds up. None of this makes sense. Make it make sense. Answer these questions." You know, there's all these conspiracy theories going around online. Okay, so Turning Point, our own government, whoever, let's squash the theories, answer the questions. But people aren't answering the questions. They're kind of dancing around the questions or they're saying you're crazy for for asking these questions, >> right? >> And so you were like, hm, this this doesn't really add up. >> Exactly. And I mean, I also looked historically too, if you look what they did to Trump back in 2016, it's kind of the same narrative, if you will, of making him out to seem crazy and making him seem like he is going to do nothing but evil and harm. But in reality, he didn't. And I mean, I have different views on him now because of foreign influence again, but >> I do believe truly that the same thing happens with Kansas. And I see that all of Turning Point's social media stars and allies are all simultaneously posting the same types of videos going after >> like literally beat for beat, word for word. And it's just like what? It's like they're reading off a script. >> The real accounts, >> right? And and that's just really concerning to me, too, is the organized effort to try to suppress Candace Owen's questions. >> Yeah. >> It's in the dodging and the smoke and mirrors. It's very, very odd. >> You know what was really concerning for me is um Can you ask um how really quick? how Alex Jones, I sent you this text. Um, I'm gonna show this on the camera here. Alex Oh, dang it. It's going to be reversed. Okay, so I'll just I'll just explain it really quick. I already sent this to you, Josh, but I want to explain it for the audience here. So, we all know who Alex Joan is, right? Um, typically would be on Candace's side about something like this and actually has been. We've seen videos of him talking about how he is like something's going on here. But as soon as this account posted a video of you five days ago, Alex Jones replies to it and says, "This guy needs to post photos of himself with Charlie in working at TPUSA." And I'm like, >> like Alex is a reporter himself. He could have verified this information easily. I went to your Instagram account and there's so many photos of you posting at TPUSA events. TPUSA >> posted you on their profile with events. You're like, you clearly worked there. You were friends with everyone who worked in TPSA. You follow them. They follow you. And it's like, >> why for one did he like go just do one quick search before tweeting that? And two, why is he even skeptical about this in the first place? I think I replied something that was like why because this is um so like what did I say? I don't I don't know what I said but I responded I was like not Alex Jones too. Come on. Like we've already lost a few good ones or decent. >> We've lost people. But >> um I didn't mean it like that. I meant like we've lost like like you know I meant like Nick Fuentes. I never even kept up that much with Nick Fuentes. So I don't know if it was a good one. I've seen a few clips, but >> so so um I want to dive more into your experience on that on that first night and also some of the things that you said about maybe the financial situations at Turning Point, but before I ask you that, um I know you said when you left Turning Point, but what was the main reason why you decided to leave? >> Yeah, personally, I just felt that there was a lot of pressure from the people on the inner circle of Turning Point, if you will. Um, and I will say that anyone that has worked for Turning Point is very aware that there was an inner circle there. And if you were not a part of that, you are not going to last. You are not going to enjoy your life there. And they're going to make you miserable. And that's exactly what they did to me. They made me as miserable as they possibly could until I eventually just gave up on the job. >> And what does that inner circle mean? And like what were they doing or conspiring that you didn't want to be a part of? >> Yeah. Um it was just kind of corruption if you will um of the upper levels uh differences and views from Charlie and opinions and stuff and very secretive type of things. like they wanted to have secret meetings with each other and like they would go off during training in secret little groups while everyone else was, you know, watching the um presentations and stuff and it was just it was like a little secret fan club almost like you get to sneak off and go do your own thing for a little bit and I just I never bought into it. I just didn't think of it as a good thing. I thought it was really weird and peculiar that that would be going on and let alone no one questioned it. >> So, were you invited to these secret groups? >> Yes. >> And were and you were told certain things about them, but you were kind of just like not interested. So, why don't you go more into um what you talked about in one of your videos that was removed where you were approached at one of those bar events by um people at Turning Point and I'll let you describe for yourself what you said about them, what country they affiliated with and what they said to you. Um if you want to talk about that a little bit right now. >> Yeah. Um so, we went out to the bar. Um, that was the night we went out to the bar with our senior representatives and they were um having us all drink. I had had a few drinks myself, I will say that. >> And they pulled me outside for a minute to smoke a cigarette with them and talk to them. I declined a cigarette cuz I'm obviously only 17 and a half. >> Um, but they start talking to me a little bit and they're like, "So, we we just overheard you talking about Israel earlier and we just wanted to know a little bit more like how do you feel about Israel?" and I said, "I feel neutral. Like, I think they're okay." At the time, I hadn't done too much research into what was going on or whatnot, so I didn't care. >> And they said, "Okay, well, we're part of a pro-Israel group within Turning Point, and we kind of promote for Israel within Turning Point, if you will." And they were like, "Would you be interested in stuff like that?" And I was like, "Not really. No, I'm just here for the college department. I work with colleges." Um because I thought it was some different group that they were with. Um and they said, "Oh, we're part of some Israeli coalition group that Turning Point hires to come here and work for them." And I was like, "Okay, whatever." Like, "That's weird." And I kind of shrugged it off and walked away. Um, but looking back now, I can see that was very weird and very odd of them to be talking about with me. >> And did they like tell you what their motive was of why they were involved with Turning Point and why they were coming out with brand new recruits and getting them drunk and asking them about this? >> They didn't lead me into anything like that personally. Um, but they just said that they were there to promote Israel essentially and just for the pro-Israel cause within Turning Point was their mission. >> H Okay. And so after this night out with these, what would you call them? Did you think that they worked for the MSAD like the Israeli CIA? >> Yeah, I mean at the time I did and I can't clarify if they did because I don't have their credentials. I don't know if they really did. >> They did, >> but I believe that they did. Yes. >> Well, they didn't say, "Hi, I I'm from Israel and I'm here for the MSAD." Is that what they said? Or you could just kind of >> like you could just pick it up based on the way they were talking about it like we're part of is Israeli group like just kind of implying if you will. >> Can you do you know if they were Americans or if they were like born and raised in Israel? Um, I do know that one of them has dual citizenship with the US and Israel. Um, that's a fact. I know that. The other one I am not 100% certain on. >> And do you know if Charlie was aware that these people had ties to the Israeli government? >> I don't think he did. No. >> Okay. >> Why is it that you'd think that he didn't know? I'm not I'm very pro Charlie and I 100% am with you. But at the time was there anything that set you off like oh I don't think Charlie's aware about any of this stuff and why in that case I'm not like look you're being so brave now. Kudos to you. You are doing clearly what no one else is able to do even though they want to do it other than Amanda and like a small handful of others who I guess distorted their voices. Not sure if that's I didn't actually see that. But um in that case, why didn't you go forward and say, "Hey, Charlie." I'm sure he's hard to get a hold of, but >> he is very difficult to get a hold of. Um and he's rarely even at the Arizona facilities when he was alive. He was rarely there >> because he's traveling the country all the time, >> right? He had his uh live free or die tour going on at the time, too, that he was promoting for at the time. So that was just taking off and he was doing a bunch of promotion for that. Um, so he was never really around in general and then us field representatives didn't get much of a chance to talk, you know, communicationwise one-on-one with him unless we were doing events. So it was just like you never really got the time to talk to him about stuff like that. And then the people that you were able to bring it up to, they were just going to bury it and that was the problem. So like your your sup super supervisors or whoever your leader was like it didn't matter if you brought it up to them really >> right >> because you said you had >> Yeah I was about to say what we're about to say yeah in your video you said like you brought it up to multiple people but nothing was done about it >> right >> wow is that why you ended up eventually leaving 100% like that's fully the reason >> that's more of the reason yes and then also they just like I said they made me miserable um they would make me do a bunch of um exterior stuff like I was saying, traveling to three different colleges in one day across two states and they're expecting me to do all this stuff and it's just it's insane. I think the last straw that I had with them with that was I went down to Sacramento State. They sent me up to Chico State after that, then to University of Reno, and then they called me at 8:00 p.m. at University of Reno and said that I had to go down to Vegas for an event the next morning. >> And this is you by yourself. You're just driving around doing this on your own, >> right? >> So, do you think they were trying to put you in a stressful situation so you would quit so they didn't have to fire you since you weren't on their team? >> Absolutely. I think so because Vegas was out of my territory as it was already. I only covered northern Nevada at the time and they told me that I had to be down in Vegas by 5:00 a.m. the next morning and that I had no choice or else I was going to be fired. So, >> how is any of this legal? >> I couldn't tell you. >> One thing on that note is I've seen a few people in the chat here. Do you have access to the chat? Are you able to see it from? >> Um, let me see. >> You are? >> I don't think so. >> You don't? Okay. So, couple questions here. One was from quite a while earlier. People were commenting about how if you are a minor and then you sign an NDA and I'm not sure how accurate this is, but does it not I'm sure you've looked into this since it's your NDA and you're like, well crap, you know? >> Yeah. >> Like, is it still legal since he was a minor? and have you talked to the lawyer? >> As long as you're 16 years old, you can sign an NDA. And then again, an NDA does not matter based on age. Um, even if I did have parent consent under 18 for some NDAs, my parents would have signed it, too. So, it wouldn't matter. >> Okay. So, you've told us some interesting stories. You've also made a video about the financial situation going on at Turning Point. I am not familiar with filing taxes with big corporations or anything like that, but you did talk about it. Can you give it us like a rundown of what you kind of discovered of the corruption going on with the financial situation with Turning Point? >> Absolutely. Um, so the IRS, it was stressed from day one of training. The IRS was going to be all over us all the time. and if we missed a single payment down to a a penny, they would sue the crap out of us or come after us as hard as they can. So, it was just burned into our heads from the start that we need to be very careful about money. And the thing that drew me to find out about this scheme of money going on was TurningPoint USA is a 501c3 organization which is a nonprofit um non-political so they can't affiliate with anything. Mhm. >> You follow the money from that charity, however, and that flows down to Turning Point Action, Turning Point Faith, and then Turning Point Endowment, which I didn't know about, and apparently Charlie didn't know about either. Um, and Endowment is a stock market branch where they pour millions of dollars into the stock market yearly and then get return on investments from that. And then the peculiar thing about that that I found was they had an employee fund for that that lists zero known employees. There's no employees on payroll. >> Yeah. As you mentioned, >> but there was $5 million going to somebody. And that money was tracked back to a Safeway uh strip mall, I think. And don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure >> strippers and alcohol. Yeah. >> Well, um there was a video that that Candace So on her video she released a uh a tip from someone that apparently was a close family friend of Andrew Kulvitz. And they said when Charlie died, Andrew was acting weird. And he said to them just in a conversation when Charlie Kirk said no >> to money from Benjamin Netanyahu. >> Andrew said when Charlie said no I personally lost millions of dollars. >> I think one >> do you think that that statement is accurate and why? I absolutely do. And I believe so because there was a lot of people like him around Charlie that felt the same exact way. And when he turned down that money, they all lost out on that. And I think the reason was was because Israel was pumping a lot of money into those people to try to flip him into turning into a pro-Israel cause. So, I personally didn't know any of these names before the past two months. I didn't know who Andrew Kulit was. I didn't know who Tyler Boyer, all these people. Brian Harpool, who's my number one right now, my number one uh suspicion. Actually, I hate Rob McCoy. I mean, I don't hate him. You can't hate him. You don't know him, but not a fan. Um, did you already know all these names before? Did you know all these people? >> They're like they're popular in Turning Point, right? They're the big guys. >> Very. >> Even though you didn't necessarily work with them or in their department per se, you definitely knew who they were. >> Yes. They were very well known within the company. >> Did you have feelings on them before? >> Yes. Um I never really felt very positively towards any of the administrators at Turning Point besides Charlie himself really because he >> And that shows on your Instagram that you felt very positive towards Charlie. Even absolutely can see stuff that you posted from before he passed away. >> Yeah. >> And after um and I know you have to go soon. >> You guys are good. >> Okay. >> I managed to get some more time, so I'm free. Don't worry about it. >> Well, thank say thank you to your fiance for uh our technical difficulties. >> What's your fiance say's name? Fiance. >> Maybe he doesn't. >> Her name is Shaya. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And she's tagged. She's tagged. Thank you, Shaya. Sh. >> Sha. >> Shana. Yeah. Thank you, Shaya, for letting Josh stay a little bit longer. This is our fault. >> So, I used to live in Arizona, like I said. Um, I was part of the Arizona Young Republicans group. A lot of those people worked for Turning Point USA as well. And I honestly wanted to quit my corporate job and come work for Turning Point. I didn't. Um, but after going to an America Fest uh event, I think it was in 2022, it really made me want to work for Turning Point. I was like, "Wow, like this company, their movement, like it's just so inspiring." And I've met Charlie before and like I was just like, "What an amazing human." And like just had so much respect for him in his company. And I just think if he knew the way it's how it's become, he'd be disgusted by it. And if he knew what was going on behind the scenes, like he would just be so disappointed and upset. But like people are like, "Oh, don't you think Charlie would know the characters of people around him?" But then again, like I mean look at Jesus. Jesus had people that stabbed him in the back. Julius Caesar had people that stabbed him in the back. Like, do you think that Charlie had no idea that these people had any nefarious motives? And and if you do agree with that, like do you think maybe some of those people are the people currently running the Charlie Kirk show? >> Yes, I do. And that is sad for me to say, but I was going to reference Julius Caesar actually because I felt Charlie's in the same position as Caesar. I think that somebody close to him was very involved in what happened to him. I'm not going to speak any further towards that, but people can make their own impressions. Um, and I also believe that people need to understand Charlie Kirk was a very busy man and he ran so many different organizations at the same time. Had to run events for all those and be the face of all of them at the same exact time. >> And it's difficult enough to run one nonprofit as it is that is very famous, but running three different ones at the same time, you're all over the place. You can't expect him to be able to know everything about what's going on back home, >> right? >> I have a question. >> Yeah. >> Based on what you said and also from the chat here, um, did you ever happen to meet Erica? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Um, and so she wasn't even really employed by Turning Point. Oh, yeah. She was employed at the time that you were working there as well, right? >> No. No, I don't think so. She never been an employee until after Charlie died. Now she's head of the company. >> Okay, got it. >> But she was there. Um, Charlie met us one day for I think it was the last day of training. He came in to visit everyone and that's when Erica came in too and she met everyone as well. >> Right. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And and like a lot of people Sorry. Do you want to finish? Go for So, since I feel like you wouldn't have an ending on this, but I'm not sure if you want to disclose this because I personally don't even know if I am willing to share how I feel about Erica, but are you? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Um, personally, I don't on the record, I don't have any hard feelings towards Erica. Personally, as a person, I can't say that she's a bad person. When I met her, she was very kind to me. She was very kind, very caring, I would say. She noticed that I had a very nice hairdo that day. I had just gotten a haircut. She was just very kind, if you will. Um, but from what I've seen lately, I have changed my opinion a lot and I'll leave it at that because >> I'm actually in like I'm so surprised to hear that she was a kind person because I have formed my own opinions on her based on the things that I've seen like girl, >> right? >> I I've I will say that I dislike her personality. I can say that. I can't say else. I dislike her personality, but it's good to hear that she's kind to you. That that makes me feel a little bit better, I guess. >> And I mean, >> I am trying to tiptoe around it. Obviously, you could tell I was trying to tiptoe around that as much as I could, but my views have very drastically changed since Charlie has been killed. >> Yeah. A lot of stuff. >> Yeah. And and she's always seemed like a very sweet person to me. Right. >> Um it it's just if I was in her shoes, um I would want to make sure every single theory, every single um shred of evidence was was heavily, you know, investigated. And I thought it was very interesting. Um, I think it was yesterday. She just said to stop, >> right? >> The video was very intense. She literally was like, "Stop." >> And it's like, >> I'm sorry. I don't think anyone is believing that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk alone. I think everyone in the world that has half a brain knows that that's not what actually happened. And if I were Charlie's real friends, if I was Charlie's family wife, I would say, "Let's investigate every single thing that we can because I would want to know what actually happened." And I would be concerned for my own life, for my family's life, or my friend's life. And for people to say to stop asking questions and to believe what the mainstream media and what the government is saying is insane to me. >> I absolutely agree. >> And so it it just like we're all human here. It's like you're looking at the way his friends and family are reacting and you go, "Were these really Charlie's friends or were they using him? Were they planted here for a reason? And I'm not saying we don't know. I'm saying my opinion looking out like if one of my if you were to die for one of my sisters or someone in my family or my fiance, which I don't have, but like husband in the future, whatever. I'd be like, "No, we're going to look at every single thing and we're going to figure out what happened." And the way that they're reacting is just not normal to me. >> Right. And it it makes them look suspicious because of the way that they're reacting. >> Absolutely. And that was what I was going to get to too, adding to what you had to say about that. It makes me very angry to see the videos of I will say this person's name Mikey >> best friends with Charlie Kirk. The moment that Charlie gets shot, he didn't even react. Didn't go over to Charlie. Instead, he just jumped on his phone and walked away. >> Literally on the phone immediately >> before Charlie. >> I was livid when I saw that. >> Did you know him? >> I did. I I've met him a couple of times as well. >> Did you think he was this amazing Mikey McCoy? Like everyone is saying like, is he that intelligent, that well spoken? >> You liked him? >> I did. I thought he was a cool guy because Charlie always hyped him up. Always said he was like his right-hand man. And he was always Charlie's guy. Like everyone looked to him like, "Oh yeah, that's Charlie's guy." But like I said, I referenced Julius Caesar for a reason. >> Dude, I'm sorry, but I've watched videos of him. And this was before everyone else got super insanely suspicious of Mikey McCoy. I heard it was like week one after the assassination where Candace was making videos. All she said about Rob McCoy was, "Hey, he tweeted something about me and I don't understand why." And I go and I look this guy up, Charlie's pastor. And she's like, "By the way, he's not even Charlie's pastor. Look him up, look up his family." And I saw Mikey McCoy and Rob McCoy. And I just did not like Mikey McCoy. I watched a video of his or something and he was so like, what's the opposite of wellspoken? Unwell spoken. I don't know. like his vocab. >> He he just seems a little uh disingenuous to me a little bit. >> Yes, >> there's that too for sure. >> And then I also just didn't like the fact that people were saying that Mikey McCoy was such a hero on that day. >> When you clearly see the video, as soon as Charlie is shot, he's immediately on the phone. He runs away. Where does he go >> before Charlie's body hit the ground? >> Same with Blake Nef. He just runs away and and it just it's a little it's just weird. Like if someone I was close with got shot, I wouldn't just take off and start calling people. And like I'm not accusing them of anything. I'm just saying that's not how people should >> react in that situation. And >> and I think that we need answers to what was going on. >> It's like if you're innocent, provide your phone logs. like who did you call? He the story kept changing too. First, oh I called my dad. No, first I called my wife. Oh no, first I called Erica. Then I called my wife, then I called my dad. And then Rob McCoy, his father said, Mikey was covered in blood. No, he wasn't. He wasn't. >> He also was apparently on the plane on the way back home from Ireland. M uh Rob McCoy or there's so much contradicting information and I feel like they do it on purpose so that there's so much contradicting information that you just give up. >> That's smok and mirrors. >> Did you notice that Rob McCoy started getting more involved towards the end of Charlie's life? >> Yep. >> Same with Mikey I think too. Right. And you notice that both of them, specifically Rob too, have been coming out against Christians and using the faith against Christians for questioning what happened to Charlie. >> Yeah. I think in one of his sermons, he literally said, "If you're an anti-semite," he said like in a sermon, like you don't belong here. >> Yep. And an anti-semit semite to him is anyone that's even questioning anyone Jewish that's involved like in this which is like okay >> anyway we could talk about like Rob McCoy and like all these other things for I could talk about this for three days straight but >> right >> about the doge department too. I really would like to hear about like your feel if you've felt safe if you what really brought you to post in the first place to come out to be the first person out of two that have said anything. Um what drove you to that and how do you are you safe? Have you noticed anything? I personally understand that I put my safety at risk by speaking out and I'm perfectly okay with that because I believe in God and I believe that God will protect me regardless. So I have no fear and I want to make that very loud and clear. Um, second of all, >> I am very proud to speak out and I prayed about it very hard after seeing a couple of Candace's videos and I said, I understand what this can do to my career and politics by saying stuff like this. I understand what it could do to my life and my reputation. And I gave it to God. And I feel that my heart was pushed to do the right thing. And the Lord said, "Let there be light when it comes to the truth." And I said, "Okay." >> And we love that. That's how we feel, too. I When we first started this, I was like, you know, if there are people involved that we wouldn't expect or would hope aren't involved, like this is scary to be talking about. Like I'm sure like we're being monitored, we're being watched. But I've told this to my family. I'm like, I've always had an interest in politics. I've always loved Charlie Kirk. I've always loved his mission. And when he died, I was beside myself. I I was hyperventilating, crying. I just I listened to him every single day. All of his podcasts. He had like five he would release a day on Spotify. And I listen to all of them because I literally believed in him so much. And I was just like, "No, you don't just get to kill Charlie Kirk and get away with it. Like, I'm sorry." And I had never like like always wanted to start a political podcast, which has kind of turned into a Charlie Kirk podcast. We're eventually going to talk about other things, but I am so dead focused on this right now because I am not not going to stop talking about this until we figure out the truth. And so, like said, it's like I pray to God for protection every night for you, for Candace, for Baron, for Ian, for anyone involved. >> Guy Harry that just went on C that's gonna go on Candace's show. Have you >> Yeah. a new source that she has which released insane information. It's like God knows the truth. >> God, I think loves people that are speaking the truth and aren't afraid to speak the truth. And that's what we're all just trying to do. So, we really appreciate you doing that. >> But you haven't noticed anything weird going on in your lives in the past week, right? Like I don't know. >> Not in particular. Um, I did receive a few no- caller IDs. Um, and I have I will say that one of these representatives that I did reference that was a part of one of these groups leaked my phone number out to several people who have messaged me. >> Would this be someone in security that would have your phone number? >> What's that? >> Would this be someone in security that would have your phone number? No, this was the representative because I asked the person who got my number, who gave it to them, and they disclosed exactly the person. >> Does his name start with a T? >> It starts with a J. >> Um, are you >> Oh, >> do you know a J? >> I have an idea. Justin Strife. >> Oh my god. No [ __ ] way, dude. [laughter] No [ __ ] way. Oh my god. >> All right, I just want to say one thing about him. So, apparently the day Charlie was shot, Justin Strike, I'll say his name. I'm not on an NDA. >> He didn't agree, by the way. He >> did not agree. Yes. I'm just saying he called a billion dollar donor >> who is now I'm assuming since Charlie's no longer with us >> is now working with Turning Point. >> Yep. >> So that declined, right? And >> to my knowledge, he declined it. >> Dude, this Justin Strife is that brought him to like this and got him and got him. I don't know if Justin Strife is the one that I'm with Brandy. Sorry, you're you're not in this conversation, >> but that's that's interesting. All right. >> Holy [ __ ] Sorry, someone said blonde language. Um, >> this is a kid show. Like Baron likes to say, this is a kid show. No, no cursing here. >> Sorry. >> But Megan Kelly curses on her show, too. >> Sometimes you get heated and you're upset and you cuss sometimes. >> Oh, can I have Justin Strife's phone number, by the way? No, we're not going to do that. I'm just kidding. >> Um, okay. So, I want to circle back to the Doge department. So, uh, Tyler Boyer made a statement saying, "Oh, well, we've always had, you know, we've always been audited." An audit is completely different than a Doge department. Doge Charlie wanted to go through the entire company, figure out where all this money was coming in and where it was going. Correct. >> Absolutely correct. >> Okay. So, he decided to do this Doge department how many days before he passed away? >> A week. >> A week. So, was it ever even implemented? >> Nope. And it was buried right after his death. >> And then Turning Point missed their first IRS audit in history. >> Yep. And we are familiar with that because what's the guy's uh YouTube channel? Uh Wolf of >> I know who you're talking about. That is the right guy. >> Yeah. Who knows what he's talking about. Can you explain a little bit more about that because I'm like I said I'm not familiar with how taxes work with big corporations and I'm sure a lot of people that are watching this aren't familiar and if you're not that familiar that's fine too but just you can explain anything that you know like kind of regarding that. Well, from my understanding, companies, specifically charities, 501c3s, which Turning Point was, it can't be partisan and it can't be for profit, >> right? And so that means everything that they bought, every flyer, every desk, every event that they put on, everything had to be written out on paper to the exact tee of what it costed and then base that on donations and return that to the IRS and show them how much money you have left at the end of the year so that they know that you're not just pooling this money on the side. That's from my understanding of what it is. >> And Turning Point failed to turn over this year and given that information of where that money was going. >> Okay. And from my understanding, some of this money was getting I'm going to use the word laundered. >> Yeah. >> Allegedly, um to employees that didn't even exist. >> Correct. >> To a department that didn't exist because they were they were wanting to IPA, right? >> Correct. Yeah. Um, yeah. Insane. Um, I feel like we should talk more about the stuff that you were actually involved with firsthand because we do have a few more questions. Um, I thought of one and then I freaking forgot it. Do you have >> Well, we have we have some questions for you regarding Charlie Kirk's case, how the investigation is going. But before we get into that, is there anything else you want to say about your experience with um the Israeli people that were speaking to you? Um this was a few years ago obviously. So like what do you think their their main motive was? Was just to make sure Turning Point was always on the pro-Israeli cause. >> Correct. I think that was their goal entirely was just to keep turning point going in the direction of keeping it pro-Israel. >> Okay. And so what are your thoughts on how maybe France is involved in this? >> I believe that France could be involved as well because of what happened with Candace. Um I definitely believe so. And do you think it was just be like a distraction because Candice was doing episodes revealing that Breijit Mcronone was allegedly born a man. Do you think that they >> were trying to >> prevent her from speaking more about that by allegedly assassinating Charlie Kirk to divert attention or do you think there was another motive? It could be that and I think that would solely be the motive. Personally, I don't see otherwise why France would be involved. >> Well, I heard that Charlie was trying to convince Trump to put like a 300 something, I don't know, dollar tariff on like French. >> Yeah, there was that too. That would also add to the motive. But personally for me, I don't believe France would be too involved in this based on what I've seen. >> So, you think maybe they were involved? Well, I'm sure you're aware of the Egyptian airplanes >> and how um France and Israel co-owned this hanger in Wilmington, Delaware, >> which is where the Egyptian airplanes were going to. And then in Wilmington, Delaware, there is a building on 920 North King Street, also known as One Rodney Square, which houses the FBI, the Secret Service, and the DEA. And people traveling from this hanger in Wilmington, Delaware, which is called it's owned by Satis. um they would bring these foreign dignaries from that hammer to one rod square but that our government had to be aware of who was on these Egyptian airplanes would have to physically be escorting them from that hanger to one Rodney Square. >> Right. And this has been going on for a while, which means allegedly, if this is true, Israel and France has been in on this for a while. >> Correct. And I do believe, yes, that France was partially involved. So I do take a step back on saying no entirely, but I think that Israel had the most punch in that, if you will. Okay, >> Baron. Baron's back. Um, okay. So, Josh, we are hitting up on an hour here. You did ask to go live for 30 minutes with us. I want to ask you, how can people support you? Um, where can we find you? What are you doing right now? What are you planning on doing? >> But after I have a few more questions for you, just so you know. >> Okay. Um, currently I'm doing small public speaking out in Sacramento. Um, my Instagram is a good place to support me. I do have a GoFundMe as well to support my speaking. Um, I can give you guys the link for that if you want to. >> We will link it to this video. >> And um, what do you public speaking about politics? >> Um, just anything in politics and Charlie Kirk as well. I do speak a lot more about what happened publicly since uh, a lot of people can't get me on MDAs in public. >> Right. Someone just commented you should write a book. You should I was literally gonna say that. Whoever Who commented that? Yeah, Robert. I was gonna say that and then I'm so glad you commented that, Robert, because I was gonna say you should write a book. Can't release it till 2035 because that's when your NDA from TPOSA expires, but send it to people. >> Smart. >> Send it to people. Know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Now, I don't >> I actually might take you guys up on that. >> I don't even want to think about that because it's morbid, but you need to send it to people. >> Yeah, >> just in case. >> I will. Just to be safe. just to be safe, send it to send it to me because I want to read it. >> So yeah, we'll link all of uh Josh's social media accounts, his GoFundMe. Um so before we let you go, um what do you really think happened to Charlie Kirk? How do you think the investigation is going and like how do you think it's going to like end? >> If you have a like set in stone opinion >> or just like thoughts, what do you think? Um, from the start of it, I think the reason Charlie got killed was because of how influential he was and how powerful he was getting. I think personally Charlie was going to be the president of the United States one day with the power that he had and the voice that he had. Um, and I've said it many times before on my social media and in public, but Charlie was literally the most influential man that Gen Z has ever seen. and >> and millennials too. He's the same age as me. I'm 31. He was 31. >> Um he was born in October. I'm born in March, but we were both like the same grade. But yeah, like my generation, Gen Z, like even older people by him, >> right? And he just had this aura around him, if you will. um that just captivated people and he just understood how to speak to people and how to get on people's level and just get to a level of understanding to know that hey it's okay to have conversation and he's just someone who could go into the most hostile environments and turn it into a paradise if you will >> just an open discussion. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. And that truly right there and I think because of his influence is what got him killed. Um now following along with that to the investigation process I think it's been terrible. I think it's disgraceful and I got many questions. Why did they cover up where did he where he got shot after a day or two? Why >> on Wednesday they paved over it on Sunday which we live in Utah. Uh, Mormons don't work on Sunday. >> There's nothing open on freaking Sunday, >> but they made sure it was covered on that Sunday. >> Also, LV, >> which is insane. >> Sorry, what' you say? >> No. Yeah, I just said that's insane. And then just the idea that there's so there's so much lack of interest from the FBI in these leads that Candace has provided that are very substantial and evidential. the most substantial like could there possibly be more substantial evidence >> and people that are like oh this is crazy. It's like you are literally just you're being bought and paid for right now because >> but there's still like people in my family who aren't being bought and paid for and know that and they still don't believe it and I'm just like how >> absolutely >> it's insane. And your family too, right? Right. >> A couple. >> Oh, people in your family also don't want to believe that maybe our government was involved. >> Oh, I was talking to you. Maybe Josh, too. >> Oh, >> my family doesn't either. >> Yeah. >> Um, yeah. And I understand it's it's very hard for people, I think, to wrap their heads around that people that they believed in for so long. Me as well, when I moved to Utah, I wasn't registered to vote in Utah. And so I literally took a flight to Arizona to go vote for Donald Trump because I really believed he was going to drain the swamp and be the most transparent president and administration yet. Oh, we're still talking about the Epstein files. >> Exactly. >> Um clearly Charlie Kirk's assassination. You're not like sorry but Cash Patel like you're not you're not being honest about this. It's so apparently obvious. And like that's my opinion. Like I'm very very very disappointed in this administration. And I'm not saying that they knew, but if they knew about Charlie beforehand, like literally like f you because Charlie dedicated his entire life to getting you guys elected. And if that is the case and you guys let him get killed, >> um it just there's just no words. There's just no >> words. >> And so what is your opinion on how you think this is going to turn out? Because I just I just don't know. >> I think if people listen to what Candace said and go Max, everyone I think everyone needs to do it. I think we all need to start asking the same questions Candace is asking. Put the pressure on. Don't stop. We can't stop because if we stop or we relent, it's going to go away. It's going to get buried. There's going to be something else that comes out that is just going to be bigger and this is just going to get blown into dust. But if we keep pressuring like Candace has been and keep consistency with it, they're going to break. And they have been breaking. And if we keep doing it, we're gonna get to the answers we want. >> Yes, >> you're you're so right. I think that people think that people are going to get bored of the story and they're going to move on to the next thing. The next thing I think they're going to be like, "Oh, aliens are coming. Isn't like a Threeey Atlas is supposed to be an alien spaceship that's coming to America or to the world. Sorry. And oh, this is going to distract everyone." Like, no. I'm sorry. Like, yeah, that'd be crazy. But I we're not going to stop talking about Charlie Kirk's assassination until we have answers. And we don't have any answers right now. And if, like you just said, if people like us, people like you, other people keep talking about this, >> it's not going to go away. And we keep discovering new things every single day. And all of the evidence is going to be so prominent that you can't pay all these influencers like sorry like Tim P, Dave Harris, like some of their captions and the way that they word videos. I'm like that is the most misleading thing you could have ever posted. Like that is not what Candace said. Um you were you're literally taking things out of context. You're fabricating things. You're misleading people that only watch Fox News. Like some people that I know like just, you know, they work, they go home, they they watch Fox News, and like that's their news source. And I'm like, you need to watch other things besides media groups that are literally run by countries like Israel, >> right, >> that are spitting a narative. >> Most of them. That's literally most of them. >> Yep. And and like I think they thought they could get away with this because JFK was kind of swept under the rug because there was no internet that was as prominent. Like there was no people videotaping >> being podcasters like us. >> There's no like tip lines of people sending information. And it's like, sorry, you publicly executed one of our favorite people to ever hit the earth and you think we're going to let you get away with that? >> Absolutely not. >> No. Sorry, but no. Um Josh, is there anything else that you would like to bring up or anything else that we haven't really touched upon? What did you >> I think we covered everything that we talked about to be honest. Um, well, I like I think we did like on the phone call. I mean, I think and a little bit more even. >> Oh, I have one more question. So, are there any um conspiracy theorists that you really agree with what they're saying online besides Candace Owens? I do you do you agree with what Candace Owens is saying for like >> 110%. Everything that she has said has been on the right track. And uh anyone else on that track? I would say Matt Murphy. He's on Instagram. Um he's just more of a meme guy, but he's on >> I like him. I know who that is. Yeah. >> Yeah. Me and him follow each other. So, >> and I'm sure you're Oh, that's cool. Um I noticed Ian Carol follows you, too. He's mentioned you before. Ian Carol does amazing work. Baron Coleman does amazing work. Um I am Coach Colin, that's his name on uh on YouTube. He does amazing work. uh Valhalla y >> all all these people are trying to spread awareness to what's really going on and and like we're not bought and paid for. We're not we're not getting sent money. >> Who would be paying us anyway? Charlie Kirk from heaven. Like >> whenever everyone's like Candace Owens is an all like Yeah. She's just like she's a fed >> from who? Who's paying? Someone thought me and her were like I'm like from who? We're literally talking against you guys. But okay. >> Yeah. >> Right. Yeah, Charlie from heaven is sending us money so that expose us this all. That's why I'm like people come on common sense. Try just try it please. But yeah, would you just would like would you agree that other like people should stop watching the mainstream media as much and branch out to other news sources because the media is literally bought and paid for by big corporations that are only allowing them to say certain things. Like look at Tucker Carlson for example. He got fired for speaking out about things. Now he has his own network. He went on Theo Von's podcast yesterday and literally said, uh, the Egyptian airplanes tracking Charlie and Erica, that's 100% factually proven to be true. The fact that there were 12 Israeli cell phones on UVU campus that day, that is factually proven to be true. We're we're trying to figure out that maybe there was French uh cell phones on campus that day. A lot of the people in the crowd, UVU students, said, "I didn't recognize any of them." There was a bunch of people in maroon shirts on campus that day. >> Candace talks about how the military uses colors to identify people. >> Yep. >> I don't think that they knew that this investigation was going to get to this point where people like us were going to figure this [ __ ] out. Oh, they did. And now they're trying to gaslight us. >> Exactly. And you are exactly right with that. You are completely right because that's exactly what they're doing. They didn't expect us to get this far. They didn't think we would be this smart and we've outsmarted them. >> And they're on their heels. >> Yeah, they are. And you were talking about how you felt scared like to even like or I don't know if you said directly you felt scared but you knew the uh >> implications >> implications. >> Yeah. Implications. Wow. People are sending us like um super chats also. I want to see if any questions are for Josh before you head out. Regardless of how Okay. So we will read these afterwards but I don't want to force you to stick around for them. Just while we're looking through these, is there anything else you want to like clarify or say before we let you go? >> Um, not really. I think I've covered everything I'm I've got. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm just hoping I was going to say I just hope that the people who are getting found out are more afraid than the people who are risking things to come forward with the truth. >> Oh, I have one question for you. Someone just brought up Erica. Um, I don't I don't know Erica personally. I you know, I don't want to insinuate that she's involved in anything. I I don't even have an opinion really about it yet. I think the way that she's acting is a little odd, but at at the same time, I don't know, >> right? >> Where I'm sure you've seen her interviews from yesterday and like today. Do you have a change of opinion about Erica or how do you feel about her? >> I still feel very disheartened by her to be honest. I don't trust her and I don't think that she's telling the complete truth and a lot of that speaks from her reaction to Tyler Robinson being her husband's killer and forgiving him and then the way she lashes out towards those who are questioning what happened to Charlie. >> Yeah. And there's also people saying that her family is heavily involved >> with Israel. >> Yes. With Israel. >> Yeah. >> And so do you think I just it just it's hard for me to believe that Charlie would be fooled by by that? But I mean she also was in music videos and was on a reality TV show and was Miss Arizona. Like and I'm not saying that I believe this. I'm just saying there are theories, you know, floating around that she was placed in Charlie's life for a reason. And maybe >> I wouldn't necessarily say that I know for a fact that that is true, but there is a lot of implications that would lead to that. >> Oh, and I have Okay. Um and and yes, there there are a lot of implications that that have leaked that and assumed that. And um I wanted to ask you about uh Brian Harple, which you know Candace's source, Harry Meyers, which she talked about on her episode yesterday or the day before, I think. Well, she's talked about him the last like three episodes. How he saw Brian Parkle at that secret meeting at a military base in Arizona two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Do you think that he could have been involved in this and allowed it to happen? >> I think that there is some possibility there. I absolutely do. >> And what about Dan Flood? I am not certain about Dan. I need to >> I never were either. You always were very like pro Dan in the beginning because you knew him or had met him. >> No. No. I've never met Dan Fled. I I just No. I mean, I've never been pro any of his security guards. I just I don't I don't want to make assumptions about people or go on camera and be like, "Oh, I think this like when in my thoughts, sure, I can I don't But like um I thought his hand signal was very weird. Like as soon like right before Charlie got shot, he went like this and it was like was that like oh make a sound go off so it makes it look like he got shot. I don't know. >> I'm just turning point would come out. I wish Dan Flood would come out and go oh I did this because like Baron jokes are like hey I want a lemonade. I want like what this is a hand signal. Like what does that mean? Like >> right, >> people don't just do this for no reason, >> right? >> Absolutely. >> Sorry guys, I literally have a piece of bad. We have to end this live soon. Um, [laughter] I'm not joking. Things that are related to you. So, you are public speaking right now and you mostly in California, you said, but you would probably be willing to fly to other states if they accommodate your travel. That is good to know. Um, guys, >> he's looking for a job. He's looking for a public speaking job and wants to get into that. So, please >> I think you're going to do so well in life. I think you are such a hero for coming out and speaking about this because so many people are afraid to. And so for you to come out and to talk about this publicly just speaks volumes your character and to like just who you are as a person and how you just maybe you're scared but you are like no like I I need to talk about this because something is not right here. >> Completely agree with that. I love that >> and I'm so sad that more people haven't come forward but at least >> but maybe more people will you've encouraged more people to come out because if there is a group of them there's enough of us talking about this sorry they can't kill all of us >> right >> they just can't so yeah >> yeah thank you for coming thank you for hanging >> thank you guys for having me this was awesome >> thank you for dealing with us >> yeah and sorry for all the technical difficulties at the beginning. Not like >> we uh we had never gone live before. This is our You're the second person we've ever ever interviewed ever. So, thank you. First time ever live. >> You guys did great. >> But we uh just text us after this. We'll link all of uh all of your links to our video. But um before we let you go, is there anything else you'd like to say? >> Um not much. But thank you guys for watching and thanks for listening. Um