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Investigative journalist George Webb exposes startling details about Charlie Kirk's final days, including a billion-dollar offer from Pierre Dupont that came just days before his death. Webb, who has spent three months investigating the September 10, 2025 incident at UVU campus, discusses his pending class action lawsuit against Turning Point USA and why he believes a Doge audit could expose infiltration within the organization. From suspicious Egyptian planes to Air Force ROTC connections, Webb connects dots that mainstream investigations have overlooked. He argues the motive for Kirk's death centers on preventing a forensic audit that would have revealed financial corruption, the same audit Kirk was determined to implement despite facing a billion-dollar incentive to abandon it.
The Investigative Journalist Who Spent a Month in Utah
George Webb never imagined he would become a citizen journalist. After 35 years in high-tech, he has spent the last decade leading an online group of investigators, conducting 57 different meetings across the world with about a dozen people over a dozen days. Webb got his start investigating the Podesta Foundation and Clinton Foundation corruption after knowing people involved in DNC controversies. When Charlie Kirk was killed on September 10, 2025, Webb spent about a month in Utah filming everything, then spent two months socializing findings with other investigators.
Webb's investigative approach follows traditional crime scene analysis: means, motive, and opportunity. In most investigations, authorities look at who had the strongest motive to harm the victim. In cases involving spouses, they typically examine the spouse first. Remarkably, in this case, Erica Kirk was never properly investigated, though she was ruled out because she wasn't present and didn't have the means.
The Pierre Dupont Connection Nobody Is Discussing
The number one motive emerged very late in the investigation. Webb had been working with information about the Dupont family, a dynasty involved in American warfare since the War of 1812, with roots extending back to the Revolutionary War. The Duponts are based in Delaware, where planes have been landing in Wilmington right by Dupont headquarters. Pierre Dupont—Pierre Dupont the Fifth—was supposedly the first person called by Justin Streiff, the chief operating officer of Turning Point USA, immediately after Kirk's death.
This detail is extraordinary. It's unusual for a COO to call a billionaire donor as the first notification after an assassination. The Dupont family tree traces back to the Louisiana Purchase. This is a family involved in Agent Orange, bioweapons in World War I, and the Manhattan Project for the atomic bomb in World War II. They have been part of the military-industrial complex for generations.
According to Candace Owens' reporting, Justin Streiff was the number two person at Turning Point USA who had just been placed in charge. The first call he made wasn't to Kirk's mother, his wife Erica, or any family member—he called Pierre Dupont. Webb identifies this as the first critical piece of the puzzle. Yet during the private meeting between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk on February 15th, Justin Streiff was present for four and a half hours, and this phone call was never discussed. Webb considers this the most important question: How long did Strife know Dupont? What prompted him to make that call first? How many donor events has Dupont attended? How much does he donate annually?
The Egyptian Planes and Diplomatic Immunity
The second major element Webb focuses on involves Egyptian military planes. It's highly unusual for foreign military planes to operate in United States airspace with diplomatic immunity. According to Candace Owens, the person responsible for Kirk's murder came off one of these planes. This makes these aircraft critically important to the investigation.
Owens stated that an Israeli man and a French woman were part of a team on the Egyptian plane. The plane appears to have turned off its transponder once it passed over Cairo, making it impossible to track whether this was an Israeli team, a French Foreign Legion team, or another group. Owens explicitly said that plane was responsible for Charlie Kirk's murder. She also expressed fear that the same group had a contract out on her life.
These planes carry enormous significance. With diplomatic immunity, they can turn off their transponders and avoid searches. The aircraft has transported the president of Egypt and the king of Saudi Arabia. It carries top trade representatives of Egypt. Because of diplomatic immunity, it doesn't need to be searched upon entry to the United States. This means it could carry all the equipment necessary for surveillance activities or assassination operations. Webb notes there were 73 flights, with Owens claiming the planes followed Kirk 27 times before his death.
The Doge Audit That Could Have Exposed Everything
Webb believes the single most important word in this entire investigation is Doge—the audit program established by Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk. Charlie Kirk wanted to implement a Doge audit at Turning Point USA, using the same approach Musk employed: bringing in savants who use AI to find irregularities that traditional auditors couldn't locate in years, discovering them within two weeks.
A Doge audit would have found the irregularities that investigators like WolvesAndFinance are now discovering after reviewing TPUSA balance sheets. This is what they feared. This is what was discussed at a meeting in Long Island. Webb emphasizes this is what sends people to jail—where you go away if you've been stealing millions of dollars.
On September 2nd, a memo documented that Kirk demoted Tyler Bowyer, who was considered a shady character. They put Justin Streiff in Boyer's position. Eight days later, Charlie was dead. In crime scene analysis, investigators look at what changed. Why would someone kill Charlie Kirk? Because there was massive corruption, and Doge was going to expose it.
The Billion Dollar Offer to Stop the Audit
According to Candace Owens, Pierre Dupont offered Kirk a billion-dollar stock deal. This was a massive offer, an offer he supposedly couldn't refuse—but with one condition: no Doge audit. Kirk refused. He said he was going ahead with Doge. He was going to demote Tyler Bowyer and install Justin Streiff. Then Kirk was assassinated.
Webb compares this to a mafia ultimatum. Justin Streiff knew about the Doge audit. He had just offered Kirk a billion-dollar deal on behalf of Dupont. Kirk refused the deal. Days later, Kirk was dead. If Webb were innocent and Candace Owens had reported this about him, the first thing he would do is explain: "Here's my phone. Here's the call I made. I called because he was a major donor about to give $20 million, and I wanted to make sure Charlie Kirk's murder didn't blow that deal." But Strife never addressed this during the four-and-a-half-hour meeting in Franklin, Tennessee.
Webb finds it revealing that Candace Owens confirmed on Instagram Live after her YouTube broadcast that Tyler Bowyer and TPUSA backtracked on their claims. They initially stated they conducted Doge-style audits annually for an extended period. Owens said they admitted this wasn't accurate—they had done other types of audits but never a forensic audit. Doge didn't even exist before this year, before Ramaswamy and Musk created it. What they claimed was they did regular audits with regular auditors. But as the Enron scandal demonstrated, when companies get cozy with their auditors—as Enron did with Arthur Andersen—they just rubber stamp financial statements every year, eventually taking down entire accounting firms.
Suspicions Within an Hour of the Shooting
Webb suspected something was wrong within an hour of Kirk's death. His team had already been doing extensive work in St. George, Utah. They had published a film from St. George identifying the airport and locations where they believed covert operations were being run. This material is still available on Twitter.
From day one, Webb thought something was off. It wasn't necessarily the shooter or the 306 bullet details that came later—it was what he calls "the rabbits." In intelligence operations, a "white rabbit" is something you chase to send people in the wrong direction. George Zinn pulling his pants down seemed like a white rabbit operation from the start. Another person put a gun on their dash cam in downtown Provo—nobody drives with a gun displayed after an assassination. It turned out to be a pellet gun, but that was the second white rabbit.
Webb immediately said this was a military operation, a white rabbit operation. His team went to St. George because that's where they thought the assassination team was based. They were proven right. Webb's team was in St. George before Kash Patel arrived the next day. While Patel was saying authorities had no idea who the killer was, and while the admission of guilt and Tyler Robinson turning himself in happened late that night, Webb's team had already filmed video saying the airport was nearby and they expected the perpetrator to come back by airplane. They identified the federal office location and the route through St. George, expecting that if this was a federal operation, it would involve a team out of St. George.
Tyler Robinson and the Air Force ROTC Connection
Webb visited all the universities where Tyler Robinson was associated with a group called Armed Queers, which Webb believes was involved in the murder. Armed Queers is run by someone named Maya and was based at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City. Webb went to Utah State in Logan, where Robinson was a member of Air Force ROTC. He went to UVU, which has a strong Air Force ROTC presence. He went to St. George, where Robinson was supposedly learning how to wire doorbells at Dixie Tech.
Webb contends Robinson wasn't wiring doorbells. He was learning about sophisticated missile systems in Brigham City, where Northrop Grumman missiles are manufactured, so he could understand how rare earth metals control missile systems. Robinson was a highly intelligent young man being trained in a sophisticated 8-year preparatory program in ROTC to become essentially a missile espionage expert.
The story everyone believes about Tyler Robinson is wrong, according to Webb. Investigators haven't examined his ROTC background. Later it emerged that the people who did all the filming that the FBI is relying on are all ROTC photographers. The filming of the shooting on the roof where someone jumps off and does a combat roll—that's an ROTC photographer. The other footage showing someone in black block attire with a shorter gun—that's an ROTC shooting instructor. Authorities don't have any FBI film. Webb tried to FOIA the UVU surveillance film but couldn't obtain it. There's no surveillance film from UVU available. The only two pieces of film provided come from ROTC sources.
Webb confirms Robinson was affiliated with these ROTC people. The ROTC building is the key location right next to the tunnel where Webb's team filmed people in the tunnel. It's adjacent to the parking garage. Webb filmed all of this. The reason certain pictures showed other people was to keep ROTC out of the story. One picture wasn't Tyler Robinson—it was a person named Robbie Hild, who was also in ROTC at BYU. Another person named Truman Vancot took Robinson to campus before the shooting.
The Stairwell Photo and Buzzards and Bees
The photograph of someone in the stairwell wearing a black shirt—that person is Robbie Hild, spelled H-I-L-D. Candace Owens reported this information. Hild is from Germany or Austria, a German-speaking country. He was the goalie at BYU and was involved in a group called Buzzards and Bees, which practiced Gothic aesthetics with black and white face paint.
Webb went to the club to investigate. Buzzards and Bees was a military program using young men to compromise older men in the missile, space, and defense business in Utah. Webb clarifies he didn't attend their parties but went to the club location to confirm where it was. In Provo, they held Gothic parties where very young men and some young women met much older men. The people invited to these Gothic parties—the "buzzards" being the older men and the "bees" being the younger people—were individuals working in missile and space defense in Utah.
Webb followed up on all the people invited to these parties. He went to Space Dynamics at Utah State University in Logan. He went to Hill Air Force Base where ICBMs are located. He went to Brigham City where Sentinel missiles are manufactured. He traced all the people getting invited to these parties, and they were all connected to missile and space defense.
Who Actually Pulled the Trigger?
Webb believes someone else pulled the trigger, not Tyler Robinson. He believes there's an overseas group involved. The leader is Iranian, a woman named Hermaya. Webb published information about someone on her team he identifies as the assassin. The person's name is Charlie—so Charlie killed Charlie. Webb published this information two to two-and-a-half months ago.
Webb emphasizes he's not claiming this is definitively the person or that anyone looking at other possibilities is wrong. He's simply putting information out there because the FBI doesn't seem interested. This is a group with a stated objective. The Armed Queers group meets at Dairy Queen locations, which corresponds with Candace Owens' reporting. Webb went to both locations in Orem and Provo. The group has extensive firearms, conducting tactical training, gun training, grenade training, and explosives manufacturing—just like ROTC, but framed as preparing to stop the right from becoming Nazis. This is the Armed Queers organization Webb has been reporting on for over two months.
Military Intelligence, Not FBI
Webb doesn't believe Kash Patel is involved. He believes this is a military operation, specifically the 111th Intelligence Brigade where Mike Flynn served, located at Fort Huachuca. That's where people become long-term informants. If the FBI wants someone to be a long-term informant, especially around defense systems, they make them a Defense Intelligence Agency informant at Fort Huachuca. They provide encrypted phones and encrypted communications. Webb has traced many informants to this location over nine years of investigation.
At Fort Huachuca, informants are legally allowed to lie. Webb could legally present a fake whistleblower. He's concerned Candace Owens might be going down that path with a whistleblower from Fort Huachuca who claims there was a meeting with eight or nine lieutenant colonels the day before Kirk was killed, with Brian Harpole, the head of security, supposedly present.
Webb worries someone is intentionally feeding Owens false information. He's 50/50 on whether her whistleblower is legitimate. If she discovers something genuine, that's positive. But Pierre Dupont represents a billion-dollar motive—this comes directly from Owens, not Webb. She wanted to follow up on her show, but then this whistleblower emerged seemingly out of nowhere, just like Russell Brand appeared out of nowhere when Webb's team was ready to follow up on Pierre Dupont.
The Suspicious Timing of Distractions
Webb's team was ready to follow up on Pierre Dupont on Monday after the initial revelations. Russell Brand flew in and conducted what Webb describes as a bizarre interview where he had his shirt unbuttoned down to his waist and didn't discuss the case at all. Brand then posted it to his YouTube channel. Webb's team had their car ready to go to Franklin, Tennessee, but Brand's intervention changed plans.
Then Webb's team was ready to follow up on Pierre Dupont on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. But Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday were consumed by Fort Huachuca discussions. Friday Owens didn't do a show. Monday she didn't do a show because Justin Streiff came out to meet with her. She did shows yesterday and today but didn't cover Dupont on either. She's back on the Fort Huachuca track again.
Webb concludes that if he were going into a meeting and someone had reported he called a billionaire immediately after Charlie Kirk's death, the first thing he would say is: "Look, here's my phone. Here's the call I made. I called because he was a major donor about to give $20 million. I didn't want Charlie Kirk's murder to blow that deal." Whatever the reason, he would explain it immediately. But Justin Streiff was right there for four and a half hours in Nashville, and they never discussed this—the most important subject to address.
No Photographic Evidence of Tyler Robinson on Campus
There is yet to be proven or shown any footage or photos of Tyler Robinson anywhere on the UVU campus at any point in time. Webb has seen photos of Robbie Hild. There are pictures of somebody walking, but nobody knows who it is. Same with the roof—somebody is visible on the roof, but nobody knows their identity. The photos showing someone with an American Eagle shirt and black shirt—authorities confirmed that's not Tyler Robinson.
No mother would turn their child in based on that picture because obviously the mother would know what her child looks like. The parents haven't been heard from either, which raises additional questions.
Did Turning Point USA Have Foreknowledge?
Webb doesn't believe anyone on the internal team at Turning Point USA knew Kirk was going to be killed. He thinks they knew Kirk was "cruising for a bruising" because he was angering very important people like Pierre Dupont, but they didn't know the killing was coming.
However, Webb believes Brian Harpole, the head of security, was told "Don't worry about the roof. We got the roof." So Harpole didn't cover the roof. To leave the roof open after Trump was shot 14 months earlier is inexcusable. This mirrors the Trump shooting where someone filmed Crooks climbing the roof while yelling "Look, look," and police officers ignored the warnings—the same operational script.
If someone told Webb they thought people were going to kill them tomorrow, and he was the security person, he would be absolutely certain to have a sniper watching from the highest point all around. Someone told Harpole to stand down. Harpole was told the roof wasn't his responsibility. This created the opening for a military hit—not orchestrated by Kash Patel, who is now chasing a military operation.
Dan Bongino Stepping Down
There are reports that Dan Bongino is stepping down or being removed from his position. Webb suspects they'll announce he's stepping down because he can do more from behind the microphone than in the Washington DC environment. Webb was against Bongino's appointment from the beginning. He believes they should have hired Robin Gritz, who had 20 years at the FBI and is considered an exceptional agent. Webb couldn't believe they hired Bongino, whose only qualification was working as a Secret Service agent for Hillary Clinton, opening and closing doors. Webb thinks Bongino will return to what he does best: podcasting.
The Class Action Lawsuit Explained
Webb has done two class action lawsuits before, though he's not a lawyer. When it comes to appearing in court on the first day, you have to swear in an attorney that day in what's called pro hac vice. Webb did this with the Podesta Group and the Clinton Foundation. Both class actions reached the point of nearly going to trial. The Podesta Group folded, and the Clinton Foundation essentially disbanded, stopping operations. Their president, Eric Braverman, moved to work with Eric Schmidt and his wife Wendy, transferring all four or five legs of the Clinton Foundation there.
In both class actions, Webb was able to stop the Podesta Group—the most powerful lobbying firm in Washington DC—and the Clinton Global Initiative, which was involved in regime changes in Libya, Syria, Ukraine, and the Iran nuclear deal. Class actions arise when a foundation no longer answers transparency questions to their donors.
Webb emphasizes he doesn't want to hurt Turning Point USA. He wants to remove what he calls the cancer and infiltration from TPUSA. He believes if you remove the cancer—which he identifies as TPUSA Faith and Rob McCoy—you save TPUSA. This is what Charlie was trying to do with the Doge audit: get out the infiltration.
The Spoliation Notice and Next Steps
Webb filed what's called a spoliation notice with Mikey McCoy, who is listed as the agent of record for TPUSA. A spoliation notice means: retain all records, don't destroy any records relating to Webb. He reported for TPUSA in Houston during the 2022 elections. He reported on the Greg Phillips case and attended five days of trial. The notice demands they don't destroy any of those records or any records related to his involvement with TPUSA.
Webb hasn't filed the class action yet, but he's done this twice before. He wants TPUSA to voluntarily proceed with the Doge audit. He's not asking for any money—that's critical to understand. Everyone assumes he's doing this for money. He runs a Substack where subscribers pay $8 monthly. He's not trying to raise money for this lawsuit and asks people not to send money. That's not his motivation. He wants them to institute the Doge audit so they can identify the cancer Charlie said was in the company or give TPUSA a clean bill of health.
Right now there's a cloud over the organization. The trial isn't until May—that's when the next court date is for the probable cause hearing. Webb doesn't want to wait until May. He wants to do what Charlie wanted: conduct the Doge audit. He will suspend the class action if they move ahead with the audit.
There aren't just a few people involved—there are potentially 10,000 people, with a donor list of over half a million. Webb is saying there could potentially be half a million people in this class action. He doesn't want to pursue it if they implement the Doge audit. The lawsuit will probably be filed in Michigan because Webb was working for TPUSA in Michigan when he left to go to Houston.
Why Publicize During AmericaFest?
The timing wasn't specifically planned for AmericaFest. Webb simply wants people to raise the question: If Charlie thought the Doge audit was a good idea and then he was killed, doesn't that still make it a good idea? Is it suddenly a bad idea because Charlie was killed? If they killed Charlie because he wanted the Doge audit, Webb wants it twice as much. There must be something about this audit that people are desperately afraid of. Why not just do it?
Webb has been trying to get TPUSA to do the Doge audit for three months. He spent a month in Utah, then two months talking about the need for the audit. Now during AmericaFest, with thousands of attendees, this is where they should be discussing it internally. Webb is publicizing it now so that at AmericaFest they'll talk about it. If you were joining this organization after Charlie Kirk was killed, and you knew Charlie wanted the Doge audit, wouldn't you want to remove that cloud and get a clean bill of health? Wouldn't you want confirmation you're joining a legitimate organization with nothing to hide?
That's why Webb timed this with 9,000 new chapters forming and many new people joining. He doesn't want to see them get pulled in like Charlie and suddenly discover they've been involved in a money laundering operation.
TPUSA Faith and Rob McCoy
When Webb speaks about removing the cancer, he specifically mentions TPUSA Faith. Most people agree Rob McCoy is untrustworthy and has been caught in multiple lies. According to Candace Owens as of her recent broadcast, Rob McCoy doesn't even work for TPUSA anymore—which many found shocking.
Webb finds it suspicious that McCoy changed the website to say he worked for TPUSA Faith the day after Charlie was killed. If you don't work for them, why are you changing the website to indicate you run their pastor program? TPUSA has a pastor outreach program and a youth program. Why would McCoy claim he runs the pastor program if he doesn't work there?
Webb believes they removed McCoy so they could destroy all records involving him. The pastor infiltration program of a thousand churches was run by Rob McCoy. But Webb didn't serve Rob McCoy—he served Mikey McCoy. Webb plans to send certified letters to all board members. He recommends that if new recruits at AmericaFest don't get sufficient answers—since TPUSA targets young college students, then sends them to Washington to become spies when they work as pages and legislative assistants—they should take action. If they don't get answers, Webb suggests standing up in the middle of the awards banquet and saying: "I'm not getting the answers I need. I'm uncomfortable. We should do a Doge audit."
They should do the audit. Charlie thought it was a tremendous idea three months ago, and it's still a tremendous idea. What do they have to fear? If the books are as clean as they claim, why not just run it? Webb doesn't want to hurt TPUSA—he wants to heal TPUSA.
Mikey McCoy's Inexplicable Behavior
Mikey McCoy's behavior at the moment of the shooting raises serious questions. His turnaround timing is beyond explanation. He didn't have to be a superhero or run toward Charlie. But a normal reaction would be to scream, show shock, duck, or run. Instead, McCoy was calm. He turned around. He never dialed anything. He put the phone up to his ear immediately. He never looked back. This behavior demands explanation, yet there has been no response from Mikey McCoy to Webb's spoliation notice.
Charlie Kirk Warned He Would Be Taken Out
It's now confirmed that Dan Flood received a message from Charlie Kirk the day before his death saying "they're going to take me out." Erica initially said she had Charlie's phone and he didn't send that message to anyone. But Candace said when they met, Erica had found messages Charlie had been sending through Telegram or other apps within his phone device.
So it's confirmed even from Erica's side that Charlie did send the message. However, according to Candace, they asked her if she had a copy of those messages. She said no. Only after Candace confirmed she didn't have copies did they confirm Charlie sent these messages to Dan Flood and Andrew Kolvet. But they specifically said Charlie feared "the left" would take him out.
This raises questions: Did Charlie actually say he feared the left? Why would he fear the left taking him out at this specific time? He had been public speaking at college campuses for years. What was unique about the following day? It makes no sense. Webb believes Kirk had a similar argument with Pierre Dupont and Justin Streiff like he had on Long Island with other TPUSA officials regarding the Doge audit.
Trump's Response and Future Developments
Trump has seemed extremely disinterested in the Charlie Kirk case from the beginning, similar to his handling of the Epstein situation. He appeared disengaged from the start. Webb agrees this is concerning—it's unbelievable given this is why you have an FBI director and why you have Tulsi Gabbard in position.
Gabbard tried to step in because of the foreign planes but was told to stand out by federal authorities. She was stiff-armed. Webb believes the change from Dan Bongino signals more interest in Charlie Kirk's case is coming. He predicts the new deputy director, whoever that is, will be put in charge of a task force to get to the bottom of the Charlie Kirk case because the public simply doesn't believe the official narrative.
They have to name a task force. Webb thinks Trump is going to talk about something else in his upcoming address—ground operations in Venezuela. But as part of that, Webb predicts Trump will announce a task force being set up to investigate Charlie Kirk's murder. There was a task force for Kennedy's assassination, though it came 15 or 20 years later. Webb believes that's what Trump will announce, perhaps not as the major story but as a secondary announcement in the coming week.
There was supposed to be a transparency group inside Congress with Representative Luna and others, but they lost their way and forgot the Epstein files were important. Webb thinks Trump realizes there's a credibility gap and will try to close it. While Venezuela might be the big story, the Charlie Kirk task force will be the secondary announcement.
Follow the Money to Pierre Dupont
Webb's investigative principle is simple: follow the money. The money leads to Pierre Dupont, the billionaire. To operate expensive planes—Dassault 7000s that cost approximately $50,000 per hour to run—you need someone with billionaire resources. Tyler Robinson doesn't have that kind of money. Lance Twiggs doesn't have that kind of money. You need a billionaire to have planes following Charlie Kirk around. The moment he says something against the established playbook, they assassinate him. You have to follow the money in this case.
Webb appeared on the Charlie Kirk Show in November 2022. He covered the Greg Phillips trial, covered the elections in Houston, and also investigated a migrant village in the south Houston area, though that turned out to be a non-story. Charlie had Webb on specifically for the Greg Phillips case, where Webb was present for five days of trial. Webb simply doesn't want TPUSA to destroy those records. He has standing because he gave money, donated his time, flew to Houston, stayed five days in a hotel, paid for all his meals—all donations. He has legal standing to demand preservation of records.
Webb wants to see TPUSA return to the path Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens set: protecting the First Amendment, Second Amendment, Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, and the founding documents in England including the Magna Carta and English Bill of Rights that Americans inherited. The organization was about protecting free speech, the right to assemble, free press. After Rob McCoy entered with TPUSA Faith, it turned toward rebuilding the third temple in Israel, reframing Christianity as essentially Israeli, promoting Shabbat Shalom and Israeli interests. That's not what Candace and Charlie started the organization to do. Money from Israel caused this redirection. Webb simply wants to see it return to the original track: First Amendment principles.
Armed Queers and Dairy Queen Meetings
The Armed Queers group that Webb believes was involved meets at Dairy Queen locations. This detail corresponds with Candace Owens' reporting. Webb physically went to both the Orem and Provo Dairy Queen locations. This group possesses extensive firearms and conducts tactical training identical to ROTC training—guns, grenades, explosives manufacturing—but operates under the premise of preparing to stop the right from becoming Nazis. Webb has been investigating and reporting on Armed Queers for over two months.
The Fort Huachuca Whistleblower Concern
Webb has been following Fort Huachuca for nine years. This is where the 111th Intelligence Brigade is based. This is where people become long-term informants for the Defense Intelligence Agency, especially around defense systems. They receive encrypted phones and encrypted communications. Webb has traced numerous informants to this location. At Fort Huachuca, operatives are legally allowed to lie. Someone could legally present a fake whistleblower.
Candace Owens is set to interview a whistleblower later this week about what he witnessed. This person claims there was a meeting the day before Charlie was killed with eight or nine lieutenant colonels, allegedly including Brian Harpole. Webb is 50/50 on whether this will add credibility to what Owens has been saying or whether it's disinformation. Many people have accused Owens of fabricating information. Webb hopes the whistleblower has receipts and that meetings occurred the day before. But his concern is the follow-the-money trail leads to Pierre Dupont and the billionaire connection.
The Real Motive: Stopping the Doge Audit
In a corporate environment with a corporate murder in a corporate setting, if somebody is about to conduct a major investigation and there's so much internal conflict that the person running accounting won't proceed with the investigation, and it's so serious that they demote that person and bring someone else in—you can already see this is a point of tremendous internal tension. Someone lost their job over refusing to do the Doge audit.
If it was easy to agree to Doge, Tyler Bowyer wouldn't have needed to be demoted. The person they brought in—Justin Streiff—arranged a meeting out of nowhere within eight days. He had only been in that job eight days when he brought in Pierre Dupont to offer a billion-dollar deal to Charlie Kirk. That's remarkable. Then that's the first person Strife calls when Charlie Kirk is dead.
To Webb, the smoking gun leads to Pierre Dupont and Justin Streiff. Other people suggest Charlie was killed because he opposed Israel's position, opposed Gaza policy, was against the war, started talking about defunding the Ukraine war. That's a potential motive, and the Duponts benefit from continued warfare. There are Israeli contractors. Erica Kirk's parents are both involved with Golden Dome and missile systems. They might want to supply the Ukraine war. That's a possible motive.
But the critical point is to focus on the hard evidence. There's a hard memo from Charlie saying they're going to do Doge, come hell or high water. If Webb had to choose one word, it's Doge—the why in the five W's. If he had to say who killed Charlie, he would start with the plane Candace says the assassin came from. The metadata with 73 flights and following Charlie 27 times suggests they were tailing him without his knowledge. The first time he spoke against the Ukraine war or Gaza policy, they silenced him. It seems they were surveilling him so that if he ever contradicted the approved narrative, they would eliminate him.
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What's up everybody? Give me one sec. Per usual, let me get this right. All righty. All right. So, we're not going to waste a whole lot of time. Um, I've said this before. We want to exercise every angle as possible to try to figure out and get to the bottom of what's going on here. because I think most of us if we're being objective and honest can agree uh that no matter what it is that you believe or may have happened or may not have happened on September 10th, 2025 at the UVU campus, I think most of us can agree that there are a lot of unanswered questions and red flags even following the Candace Owens Erica Kirk private meeting that took place yesterday um or that she spoke about yesterday that took place on the 15th. There is an investigative journalist that um I have been privy uh for maybe a couple of months now and some of you all have been sending me his content and there is a class action lawsuit that isn't I don't believe official and I I wanted to hear and learn more about this and I want to specifically learn more about this with you all. All right, so I'm going to bring him on to the platform. Hit the like button on your way in as always and we can get right into it. Boom. Can you hear me? Can you see me? >> I can see you, DD. And I can hear you. >> All right. Perfect. Perfect. Uh if if if you don't mind just introducing yourself, um letting the people know who you are, where they can find you, and sort of uh how it's related to the topic for today. >> Sure. I was in high-tech for 35 years, and I really never thought I would be doing this. I could have never for predicted being a citizen journalist, but I've done this the last 10 years. Um, I got into the Podesta Foundation and the Clinton Foundation corruption because I knew some people that ended up being a part of the DNC hoax. And then it's been 10 years leading an online group of investigators. We've had all these meetings all over the world, 57 different meetings of two about a dozen people, about a dozen days. Um, so it's been that kind of leading an online investigative group and and so bang uh Charlie Kirk was killed and so we I went spent about a month there uh after the killing and filmed everything and then have spent two months socializing it with all these other investigators since then. >> Okay, now let's let's just sort of work backwards. Let's start with the the Candace Owens Erica Kirk meeting. I want to get your thoughts on what you your takeaway was from that meeting. And again, we're going to work our way backwards. Then I we'll get into sort some some of the details surrounding the Charlie Kirk incident, etc. >> Yeah. Oh, my name is George Webb. Okay. So, I didn't introduce myself. Um so uh when we do our analysis for crime we usually do means mo uh motive means and opportunity and that is we take the people they have this thing that you see at CSI as a crime board >> and then you you put up who has the strongest motive to kill the person and if it's >> a husband and spouse situation they typically look at the spouse etc which is amazing in this case because they never looked at Erica Kirk um but you know which was normally would happen in any kind of normal investigation. Of course, she wasn't there, so she was ruled out. She didn't have the means. Okay, so that's the second test. And then the opportunity is, you know, are you are you close enough and did you have the gun and all these things. So the number one motive what uh for this it came out very late u but we had been uh working with the deonts um and the deont family has been a part of war in America since the 1812s. I actually say it goes back to the revolutionary war. >> Deont do you mind spelling that for us? >> Sure. It's uh dup nt. Uh they're out of Delaware. This is where the planes are landing in Wilmington right by the Deont headquarters. Um, so Pierre Dupant is the person supposedly that was the first person that was called by Justin Strife, the uh, chief operating officer, which is unusual to call a billionaire donor. Uh, he's pieront the fifth. You know, if you change go back in his family tree, it's all the way back to the Louisiana Purchase. >> Um, so it's a very famous family. It's a family that's been involved in Agent Orange, been involved in bioweapons, World War I, the Manhattan project for the atomic bomb in World War II. So, they've been part of the military-industrial complex for a long time. and to have um you know there's a shooting and I'm the number two guy who just got put in touch in in charge of Doge and the first call that I make is not toward my my mom or my wife or Charlie Kirk's Erica's you know none of those calls he calls Pierre Dupon now this is reported by Candace Owens >> right >> so so that's the first step is kind of in our process and then we we we look through it and say Well, that's the first thing we want to look at. And and as far as your question is what didn't happen at the meeting, Justin Stripe was there at the meeting in in Franklin with Erica Kirk and with uh with Candace and that never came up apparently. To me, that's the most important question is how long did you know this guy? Um what prompted you to make that phone call as the first phone call? How many donor events has he been to? how much does he donate per year? That that's the type of uh thing. So, that's the first big thing I would say that didn't happen at the meeting and it didn't happen today. I thought it would happen today. She talk about it. It didn't happen today. And I I'm I'm just stopping there because I I just uh I I don't want to I mean, I can I can go on uh about the planes. Uh and I'm going to put this headset in so you don't hear that beeping. um that a lot of people are retweeting this. But second thing is the Egyptian planes. Um it's very odd for foreign military planes uh to be following uh excuse me, I just plugged this in. >> Very odd uh for a foreign military planes with diplomatic immunity. Now Candace says the murderer comes off this plane. >> So the murderer that killed Charlie Kirk and the murderer who's trying to kill her. that makes these planes important planes. >> Did Candace explicitly say the per the person responsible got off the plane or is she sort of inching her way towards that? >> Uh well, she feels that this Israeli man I don't want to put words in her mouth, but what I what I had heard was the Israeli man and the French woman had been a part of this team that was on the Egyptian plane. And it could be an Israeli team because the plane looks like maybe it turned off its transponder once it got over Cairo. >> Mhm. >> So, we don't know if it's an Israeli team or a French Foreign Legion team or whatever. But we do, she did say that that plane was responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk. And she also feared that same group of people on that plane for murdering her, having a contract out on her. That's what I thought I heard her say. Uh people in the chat can confirm that or not. >> Okay. Okay. >> But that makes the planes really significant. And if the planes followed you like it's a foreign plane, remember, and it's diplomatic immunity and that means they can turn off their transponder and it has the president of Egypt on it and it has the king of Saudi Arabia uh on it at one point. This is not a plane that's insignificant. The plane has uh top trade representatives of Egypt on it, meaning it can come and go in the United States without being searched. If it has diplomatic immunity, it doesn't need to be searched. So, it could have all the things you need for surveillance to do surveillance activities. It could have all the things you need to do an assassination. So, that's why the planes are important. She got into the planes a little bit more today if you saw that. Uh, I didn't see the whole thing, but it looks like she's delving into the planes a little bit more. So, those are the that's the A is Dupant, Pierre Dupant, the motive, and then B for me is the planes, and then I'll get into C, uh, after we we talk about that a little bit. >> Okay. Um, let me just say for the record, um, you may be absolutely right. From my takeaway, I don't know if I saw, and I and it is very possible, um, that I may have just missed this connection. I do remember her talking about this small uh team uh one involving an Israeli man, but I don't ever remember her connecting that to these people being on those specific Egyptian planes. Maybe she has and I just may have missed it. Um but I do want to state that for the record and I'm a little bit fuzzy on that too if it would be good to have Candace reiterate that because I'm not exactly sure either. That's a good >> good proviso. Good. Yeah. Okay. >> For sure. Okay. So, so all right, Charlie Kirk September 10th. Uh, because we have about we have about maybe 45 minutes to an hour. I don't have a whole lot of time, but I think that's more than enough time to get the message sort of the work that you're doing out in a convenient manner or an efficient manner. September 10th happens. When is it for you? Uh, Mr. Web, Mr. George, what what do you prefer prefer? Uh, >> uh, George is fine. >> George. Okay, George. At what point do you start to suspect that something's off? Is it the same day? Is it a week later? When was it for you? >> About an hour afterward. Um the Yeah. We had already been doing a lot of work in St. George. We published a film from St. George. We said, "There's the airport. There's the place where they're running uh gain, let's just say running game covert uh in St. George." We published that. It's still out there on Twitter. You can check it. So, we were u we we thought something was off from day one. Uh it wasn't necessarily the um it wasn't necessarily the shooter and the 306 bullet and all that stuff that came later, but it was just the uh what what we call the rabbits. Uh the there was this the white rabbit is usually something that you you have to chase to send people off in the wrong direction. And George Zinn pulling his pants down and so forth seemed like a white rabbit. Right off that I said, "Oh, military operation here. This is a white rabbit operation." There was another person who put a gun on their dash cam in downtown uh Provo. Nobody usually after an assassination drives with a gun on their thing. It turned out to be a plet gun, but that was the second White Rabbit. So, right off the bat, I said, "Oh, I'm going to, you know, you we're going to St. George." Because that's where we thought that the assassination team was. Turned out we were right. We were in St. George before Cash Patel the next day, right? Cash Patel was saying, "We have no idea who the killer is." And the the um the admission of guilt or whatever him Tyler turning himself in happened late that night. And we have, you can check it on the video. We have a video saying the airport's over there. We expect him to come back by airplane. And there is the uh office of the Fed office and he's got to come through here somewhere. Right on the turnaround in St. George. So, I'm just saying we we expected if it was a federal operation that it would be out of this team out of St. George that did it. >> Same within an hour is crazy. I wasn't expecting that. same day. Wow. Okay. I've I've heard you since say I was watching your live. I believe I caught a little bit of your live earlier today and correct me if if if if I'm right or not about this. The either the number one or arguably the number one most important thing that people should be focusing on is one word, four letters, Doge. explain to the people because Candace said early in her live that she believes that it's Egyptian planes. That is not her way of saying that other things aren't important as they are. Do you believe that Doge is is sort of equally as important or more important than the Egyptian planes? And explain to the audience why you feel the way that you do? >> It's because of the why. Why did they kill Charlie Kirk? Um they Charlie Kirk wanted to do the Doge audit which you remember with Elon Musk has these savants come in and they find everything that people couldn't find for 10 years and they find it all in two weeks right because they're using AI and and so forth. So um my my point is uh that Doge audit would have found the irregularities that that uh Wolves and Finance and some of these other people are finding now after reviewing the uh balance sheets of TPUSA. So that's the thing they feared. That's the thing in Long Island that they said my dogs are going crazy in the background. Hey, quiet. Uh that that's the thing that they >> You mean the dogs that look like the Dogecoins? It's the Dogecoin dog. Look at him. Come here. Come here, Doge. There he is. He looks literally like the Dogecoin. I call him Doge I call him Doge One and Doge Two. Doge one, Doge 2. Sit down. Yeah. But anyway, that this is the thing that sends people to jail. This is where you go away. If you've been stealing millions of dollars, this is where you get to go away. Um there's Doge. There's Doge one there. Yeah, there you go. This is where you get to go away to jail. And so that's the thing that they didn't want him to do. On September the 2nd, we have the memo where he fired Tyler Boyer, who was a shady character, right? And then >> or he or he demoted Tyler Boyer, right? >> Right. You're you're good, DD. Thank you very much for keeping me honest. Uh or being very precise. Thank you. >> Um he demoted Tyler Boyer and then they put in Justin Strife and in eight days later, Charlie's dead. So again, in crime board analysis, we look what changed. Why would you kill why would you kill uh Charlie Kirk? Because there's massive corruption and this Doge is going to find it. And if they even offered him supposedly uh money from BB Netanyahu and then this Dupant offers him supposedly a billion dollar stock deal. >> What? >> Just Yeah. >> Where did you get that information from? >> Candace Owen. Oh, I didn't catch that. >> Candace Owen. Yeah, Candace Owen says this thing is going to be a billion-dollar stock deal. It's a massive deal that Pierre Dupont offered her. And people in the chat can confirm this. Uh it was going to be this fantastic deal, an offer he can't refuse, but no Doge. No Doge. And Charlie says, "No, I'm going ahead with Doge and I'm going to fire I'm going to demote Tyler Boyer, excuse me, and then I'm going to put in Justin Strife." Now, Justin Stripe was in that meeting yesterday in Nashville. And the first question I would ask if I was innocent and Ta Candace had reported that about me and Candace had reported about me. I'd say, "Hey, Candace um I I got that call. I called him because he was going to give us 20 about ready to give us $20 million because we had lost $20 million in donors in the last couple of weeks." That's why I called him. That would be the first thing I would explain, right? That's the elephant in the room. And that did not get talked about yesterday. That did not get talked about yesterday. And and Candace Owens since confirmed, she actually after her live yesterday on YouTube, she went live on Instagram live and said um went live on Instagram and said that apparently Tala Boyer and TPUSA pretty much owned I guess Tyler Boy Tala Boyer wasn't there in person from my understanding, but Erica Kirk TPUSA owned the fact that Tyler Boyer actually wasn't being honest when they originally stated Doge huge audits. It's something that they had done annually for an ex extended x period of time. And she said that this was something that they actually backtracked and said that that actually wasn't accurate. They've done other types of audits but not what they call a forensic audit. >> Right. And that Doge didn't exist if you remember before this year uh before >> the vague Roman swami and Elon Musk. >> Yeah. So that didn't even exist. So there's they couldn't have done a Doge audit. What they said was they did their regular audit with a regular auditor and you know what with Enron got real cozy with Arthur Anderson and ended up taking down the whole accounting firm because they just you know rubber stamped the financial statements every year. So Doge was different. Doge was going to be an independent audit the same way USAD we found all these programs that were all you know uh offbook covert programs and Elon Musk found it with those savant kids that he brought in. That was the same kind of approach Charlie wanted to take to looking at the books at TPUSA. Now, to me, this is the obvious reason. It's the what they call the smoking gun. It's the obvious reason. The first reason you would look at is when there's malfeasants all over the place in the organization and the top guy doesn't know about it and he's going to do an investigation and you're going to jail if that Doge computer comes in the door and a whole bunch of people may be going to jail. If somebody is killed right after that uh killed right after that, that's the first thing you look to as the smoking gun as the motive. And no one's done that, right? Justin Strife is the guy who was put in that position after Charlie Kirk demoted Tyler Boyer. So the first person who would be questioned about that would be Justin Strife, >> right? >> And if the first person he called was Pierre Dupant, now I really want to know about that conversation. What did you talk about? Right? Because you know that there's a Doge audit. You just offered him a billion dollar deal. Why? And now all of a sudden he doesn't take the billion dollar deal and now you're he's dead. I mean it just looks like a mafia ultimatum. >> Yeah. Well, somebody uh pushed back just a little bit and I want you to answer this. They say uh not that one. Okay. So, wait. Um he says it was a Fed operation, but yet now it's because of Doge. Which is it? So, I guess that's that's another way of asking what would the Feds care about? I I I have a theory of about to to answer that question myself, but I'd love to hear what George would say. What What reason would the Feds care about a Doge audit? It's the feds. >> Well, I'm not saying the feds did it. Um I I'm saying that I'm just saying how we would investigate it if it was a crime board. You you put the motives at the top, which is okay. uh one motive is jealousy like you know with lovers or whatever uh that sort of thing. That's not this case >> in a corporate environment where there's a corporate murder and and it's a corporate setting. If somebody is about ready to do a big investigation, you know, and they change so much so and they're so stuck on moving ahead and the person who's running the the accounting won't go ahead with the the thing. So much so that you say, "Well, we're going to demote you and bring somebody else in there." You can see that it's a already a a point of of great internal conflict because somebody's lost their job over saying I don't want to do Doge. You can already see if it was an easy thing to say, oh we'll run Doge. I'd say okay run Doge. You don't have to fire me. >> Well, let's run Doge or you don't have to demote me. So there's already internal attention over this. And then the person they bring in also arranges uh Justin Strife this meeting out of nowhere in in eight days. He's only in that job eight days. And he brings in Pierre Dupant to offer a billion dollar deal to Charlie Kirk in in only eight days. That's pretty amazing to me. And then that's the first person he calls when Charlie Kirk is dead. To me the smoking gun leads to Pierre Dupont. it leads to Justin and Strife. So, uh, other people say, "Well, Charlie, um, was against Israel. I agree with that. Uh, against Gaza. He was against the war. Uh, he was starting to talk about defunding the Ukraine war. That's a potential motive. And the Deon benefit by that. Um, is there's Israeli contractors, Eric Kirker's parents, both involved with Golden Dome and missiles. So, it could be that they want to be supply the Ukraine war. That's a potential motive. I agree with that. But my point is is the thing you go to is the thing you have the hard evidence. You have the hard memo from Charlie saying we're going to do Doge. Hooker by crook. And so if I had to say one word, it's Doge. Now, if I had to say who killed who, that's the why in the five W's. And if I had to say who, I would start with the plane that Candace says the assassin came from. Right? That's it seems like uh just the metadata with these 73 flights and following Charlie what she says is 27 times. It seems like they're following Charlie around and the first time he talks against the Ukraine war or the first time he talks against Gaza, something like that. >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> That's when they want to silence him. It seems like they're they're tailing him without telling him. And that seems and then he's assassinated. So, I'm saying, well, put the two and two together. Maybe they're tailing him. So, if he ever talks against the Ukraine war, they silence him. >> And now, it's been since confirmed. I think it's safe to say that it's been confirmed be that Candace Owens said that apparently some message from I want to make sure I got his name right because I know somebody's going to fact check me. His name is Dan Flood. Dan Flood apparently received a message from Charlie Kirk the day before saying that they're going to take me out. Now, Erica since came out and said, "I have his phone." He did not send that message to anyone. Candace said when they met up a couple of days ago, Erica had since found messages that Charlie had been sending, I guess, through Telegram or other forms of communication or apps within his his his device, his phone device. So, it's now been confirmed even from Erica's side that he didn't did send this message. However, Candace said that they asked her, Candace, do you have a copy of those messages? Candace said no. And it was only until after Candace said no that according to what Candace said, then they said, "Okay, well, we can confirm that Charlie did send these messages to Dan Flood and I believe to Andrew Kov as well, but he specifically said that he was in fear of the left taking him out." But they only say this after Candace confirmed that she didn't have a copy of the messages. So, did did Charlie actually say that that's who he feared would take him out? And my my question would be why would he fear the left will be taking him out at this time? He's been public speaking at at college campuses for years. What's so unique about the following day? That makes no sense to me. >> I think he had a similar argument with Pierre Dupant and and Justin Strife like he had on Long Island with Aman and Schillman. I I'll show you the message that Candace sent to me. Okay. I didn't reach out to Candace. Candace sent to me. Okay. I don't know if you can read that or not. Um I'm I'm now to the I'm new to the DuPont thing. Would love for you to give me a rundown on everything you um if you c if you can spare some time to speak this weekend. It was Pierre Dupont. TPUSA had billions on the line with Yeah. So that's not me saying this. That's Candace Owens on her Twitter sending me that message. Okay. So she thinks it's a motive and we've never gotten to talk about that motive. Um we were ready to go to I was in ready to go to uh Franklin to talk to her about it. We had the car ready to go. We're all of our teams ready to go. And then um uh the English guy um Brand Russell Brand flew in and did a crazy interview whether where he you know had his shirt down to his ankles and and didn't talk about the case at all. Didn't talk about the case at all. >> And then he posted it to his YouTube channel. I saw that. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then >> he's in there like all test out. I'm like come on man. Come on. And it's in his house with the the husband and the kids and I don't know. Anyway, so and then the second thing uh that happened um that's uh ringing. Um the second thing that that happened >> wait but before you continue because Russell Brand interview with with Candace, did Candace counsel on you? Did you not go to national? >> We didn't go to Franklin because Russell Brand had came in in the middle and then this Fort Wuka thing happened on Tuesday. So, we didn't go. I was there going to be ready to go the whole week and this thing with Fort Wuka happened on Tuesday. And she talked about Fort Wuka again today. Uh, which is this um intelligence base uh near the border in Arizona. And she has this whistleblower that she's going to have on her show >> and and and there's this big massive meeting the day before they killed Charlie with all these lieutenant colonels, like eight or nine, >> right? >> Brian or somebody was there. saying >> uh well they're um I think they're saying uh Brian Warpole or the head of security supposedly was there. >> You know, I've been following Fort Wuka for nine years. Mike Flynn, the 111th intelligence brigades there. That's where you go to become a long-term informant. If the FBI wants you to be a long-term informant, especially around the area of defense systems, >> um, they make you a DIA informant at Fort Wuka, the 111th. They give you encrypted phone, encrypted communications. That's where we have it traced a lot of informants. So, I'm just saying you're allowed to lie at Fort Wuka. I'm allowed to present to you a fake whistleblower legally, right? I can present a fake whistleblower to you legally. And I'm just worried that Candace is sort sort of going down that track. I don't want to stop her from going down that track. >> You're afraid that someone is intentionally giving her false information. >> Yeah, I am. But but I but I'm that's I'm 50/50. I mean, if she finds something, great. That's all well and good. But my point is is that Pierre Dupant this I mean this is right from her saying it's a billion dollars, not me, right? And then she said it on her show. She wanted to follow up on her show. I noticed this whistleblower kind of came out of nowhere just like Russell Brand kind of came out of nowhere when we were going to follow up on Pierre Dupont. We were ready to follow up on Pierre Dupont on Monday. Russell Brand comes in. We're ready to follow up on Pierre Dupant on Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday. Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday are all uh uh Fort Wuka. Friday she doesn't do a show. today. Uh, Monday she didn't do a show because Justin Strife came out and met with with her. >> She did a show yesterday, Tuesday, and today she didn't cover Dupont on either one of those. She's she's back on this track of Fort Wuka again. And uh, so I just I put two and two together here and say she they're trying to keep her away from put it this way. If I was going into a meeting and you thought you, let's say you had reported that I had called a billionaire immediately after Charlie Kirk's death, the first thing I'd say is, "De look, here's my here's my phone. You know, here's the call I made. I made a call because he was a major donor. He's about ready to give $20 million, and I didn't want to I wanted to make sure that Charlie Kirk murder didn't blow that deal up or whatever the reason." But they didn't talk about it. Justin Stripe's right there for four and a half hours and they never brought this up, which I think is the most important subject to bring up. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, and and by default, if if if you're stating all of this, including the fact that immediately you were suspicious, uh, an hour after the fact that this could be a federal operation, um, the the Tyler Robinson angle, >> the which angle, I'm sorry, >> the Tyler Robinson angle. What do you how would you you you explain your take on on what's going on here? Like obviously many people believe that this is a pathy. How do you get a pathy to to to go along with this framing him? Did he play a role? Do you think he had nothing to do with it? >> Well, I went to all the universities where he was associated on campus uh with uh this group named armed queers uh which I think is the group that did the murder. Armed Queers run by this Maya gal. It was based at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City. I went to Utah State where in Logan where he was a member of Air Force ROC. I went to UVU where there's strong Air Force ROC. I went to St. George if you remember where he was doing supposedly learning how to wire doorbells at Dixie Tech. He wasn't wiring doorbells. He's learning the very sophisticated missile systems in Brighgam City which is where Morton Tholm missile is being made. so he can learn what they use these rare earth metals to control these missiles and so forth. He's a very intelligent kid and he was being trained in a very sophisticated program in an 8-year preparatory program in ROC to be basically a missile espionage kind of expert. Um, and so I the the story everybody has about Tyler Robinson is is is wrong. and it they haven't looked at his ROC background. Later it came out that the people that did all the filming that were the FBI is relying on are all ROC photographers. >> All the filming? You you mean like filming the the shoot on the roof and things of that sort? >> Yep. The filming of the shooting the on the roof where the guy jumps off and does the combat roll. That's an ROC photographer. the film. The only two pieces of film we have the other one up um the guy with in in black block right with the shorter gun that's ROC uh shooting instructor. So the only film we don't have any FBI film we don't have any U I tried to get FOYA the uh UVU film we don't have any of the surveillance film from UVU right none. We only have two pieces of film provided by ROC uh ROC. Are you saying that Tyler was affiliated with these people? >> Yes. Yes, he No way. >> Yes, he's a member of the ROC. The ROC building is the key spot right next to the tunnel where we saw the people getting fixtured in the tunnel. It's right next to where the parking garage is. I filmed it. It's right there. The reason why they made sure that the pictures were of other people is to get the ROC out of this story. The the one picture wasn't Tyler. It was it was a guy named Robbie Hild who was also in ROC at that campus at BYU, excuse me. There was another guy named Truman Vancot who took him there before the shooting before the shooting. >> Are you talking about the picture of the guy in the stairwell with the black shirt? >> Yes. You know what the guy's name is? >> Robbie Hild. And Candace again reported that. H I L D >> from Is that the one from Austria? >> Uh Germany. Yeah, I think he's from Germany or maybe he's from Austria, but he's a German speaking country. He was the goalie at BYU. I went to >> because he was into uh um what is it called? >> What is it? >> Lacrosse. >> Lacrosse. No, no, not the spo sport, but the the black and white face paint. >> Oh, that was Buzzards and Bees. Goth. Yeah, he was in a club. I went to the club. >> It was the Buzzards and Bees uh society. It was it was a military program using young men to try to compromise older men in the missile and space and defense business in Utah. >> You went there yourself and you confirmed >> I didn't go to the party. I didn't go to the party. I went to the to the club. I went to the club to confirm where the club was. And so what I'm saying and then in Provo they had that that club and they had meeting uh goth parties where very young men were meeting very old men and the people that were invited to those goth parties. Buzzards and bees. The bees were the young guys and the and some some girls and then the older buzzards were the old guys. Those were guys in missile and space defense in Utah. And we I went to space dynamics at Utah State University in Logan. I went to uh uh uh Hill Air Force Base where ICBMs are. I went to Brigham City where the Sentinel missiles are. And I followed up on all the people that got invited to these parties. And these people were in missile and space defense that were getting invited to these parties with these young guys. So, so does that mean that you believe Tyler played some role? >> Yes. Someone else pulled the trigger. >> Oh, yeah. Uh I I believe that that um that there's a group uh group overseas group. Uh she's an Iranian leader. Her name is Hermaya. On her team, they brought in an assassin. I published his name is um I published his picture. His name's Charlie. I so it's kind of interesting that Charlie kills Charlie. Uh but I published that maybe two two and a half months ago and and again I'm not DD I'm not saying this is the person and anybody who looks at anybody else is wrong or anything like that. I'm not I'm just putting the information out there because it doesn't seem the FBI is very interested in this. But this is a group that has a stated objective. They meet at these Dairy Queens. This armqu group meets at Dairy Queens. That's another thing that corresponds with uh with Candace's reporting. I went to both the both ORM one and the Provo one. And so and they have all these guns, right? They they do all this gun training. They go out and do all this tactical training uh just like just like ROC. It's almost like ROC left, right? It's the same guns. It's the same grenade training, same explosives making all that, but it's just undone undone under the opices of hey, we better stop the right from being Nazis, so we're going to learn how to do all this stuff. It's called arm queers, and I've been I've been reporting on it for over two months. >> But does that mean you [clears throat] does that mean you believe that the feds played a role in that with these people? Or you mean when you say feds, you mean not necessarily Cash Patel and his his and and those that fall under him? >> No, I don't think it's Cash Patel. I think it's it's military. I think it's the 111 where Ca where where Candace is right. Again, if it's military intelligence, defense intelligence agency, that's different than FBI in Washington DC. And so the Defense Intelligence Agency in Fort Wuka, the DTR also is suspicious here. Uh they're a defense threat reduction agency, but these are military organizations that can run military operations. And then the FBI is out high and dry on these things. You know, they have to find out about it later. But everything that I found was Tyler Robinson, Twigs, uh, Robbie Hild, Truman Vancot, all a part of this compromise operation for people in missile and space defense in Utah. And that's how they're involved. And so when they're used in this scenario, it's to create a yet another white rabbit situation where you go, here's a kid walking down the street with a mouser. He must have done it with the, you know, it couldn't be somebody from a kill team from overseas. Here's him walking down the street with a mouser in his legs. Here's him going through the tunnel. Here's him going through the u the uh parking garage, but it's not him. It's Robbie Hild. So, so he's going to get off. You know, Tyler Robinson is going to be it's another guy on his ROC team that's that's shown in the tunnel and shown in the in the parking garage. So, somebody has to on the team has to stay in jail for a couple of months until the trial. But until we start looking at the people who pulled the trigger, and we're in a position to pull the trigger, uh you're not going to catch the killer, you know. And and the other thing is you got to go for the money. You got to follow the money in this situation. In order to have a plane, a couple of very expensive planes, dissult uh 7000s are very long planes, you know, they're expensive to run. It's like 50,000 bucks an hour to run these things. That's not Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson doesn't have that kind of money. Twigs doesn't have that kind of money, right? You need somebody who's a billionaire to have planes that follow Charlie Kirk all around. And and the first time he says something against our playbook, then we assassinate him. So, you have to follow the money, I think, on this one, too. >> I see. But would you agree with me that there is yet to be proven or shown any footage any photos of Tyler Robinson anywhere on the campus at any point in time? >> I I haven't seen any. I've seen Robbie Hild. Um yeah, I mean there's pictures of somebody walking >> and but we don't know who it is. >> We don't know who that is, you know. >> Same with the roof. We see somebody on the roof but we don't know who that is. the photos that they show of whoever the guy is with the American Eagle shirt, black shirt on, and they said, "Well, that is not him." Like that that's not Tyler Robinson. >> No mother would turn their kid in for for that picture because the mother obviously doesn't know who their child is. You know, that's not >> bingo. And where are the parents? We haven't heard from the parents either. But this actually will be a great transition question. So, with this information being presented, as we work our way towards the lawsuit, the the potential lawsuit, the pending lawsuit, do you think anyone at Turning Point USA outside of Justin potentially Justin Strife could have had fornowledge? I'm asking because of Mikey McCoy's weird behavior that I've yet to hear anybody adequately explain why he would turn around so fast and walk away and never look back. Well, I think I I don't think anybody on the internal team of Tyler Robinson or anybody at TPUSA knew that he was going to be killed. Um I think they knew that uh Charlie Kirk was cruising for a bruising because he was getting he was pissing off some very important people like Pierre Dupont, but I don't think they knew the killing was coming. >> Um I think Brian Harpole, they told him, "Don't worry about the roof. We got the roof. And so Harpole didn't cover the roof. But to leave the roof open after Trump got shot at 14 months earlier is just inexcusable. A >> and the same thing happened with Trump where there was someone recording the crooks guy climbing the roof and they was like, "Look, look." And then the police officers was ignoring them. >> Yeah. Henry, the >> same script. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. There was no way if somebody told you if you told me if I was your security guy and you told me I think they're going to kill me tomorrow, right? And you you sent me that message and I was Dan Flood or you sent me that message and I was Brian Harpole, I would be damn sure to have a sniper up there watching from the highest point all around. So that could not happen, >> right? So somebody told him to stand down. No, I think what happened was they they told Harpole, "Don't worry about the roof. That's not your job, right? And stand down, right?" And then and then that created the opening, but it's a mil this a military hit. Not Cash Patel, you know, um he's chasing a military operation. And so he's he's going to have to deal with this. I guess they're going to fire Bongino and bring in somebody else. But >> are they going to fire Bongo or is he stepping down? Okay, whatever. I mean, I >> Well, I'm asking because that's kind of important. I I haven't heard the story. I just heard Candace mention it for the first time. Um, so I'm I'm curious if if they're firing him. That's interesting. If he's stepping down, it's interesting for two different reasons. >> I think they're going to say he's stepping down because he can do be more from behind the microphone than he can, you know, in in the in the Washington DC matrix. Um, I don't think I I was against Anonino from the very beginning. I think they should hire Robin Gritz who had 20 years at the FBI and is just a stellar agent. And so I couldn't believe they hired Bonino who really was just a security >> uh a secret service person for Hillary Clinton. He opened and closed doors for Hillary Clinton. That's his only qualifications. So I think he's going to go back to doing what he does best is is podcasting. Yeah, >> for sure. Um, okay. So, the title of this video, the reason why a lot of people are here, um, this class action lawsuit, does it exist? Does it not exist? Can you explain to us what's going on with that? Um, what you sent to Mikey McCoy, TPUSA, and just give us the rundown on what that's about. >> Okay. I've done two class actions before and and I'm not a lawyer. So I when it comes to actually appearing in court for the first day, you have to swear in an attorney that day on your first day of court and it's called prohviche. And I I did that with the Podesta Group and I did that with the Clinton Foundation. Two I've done two other class actions. Both of them got to the point where almost going to trial, the Podesta Group folded and the Clinton Foundation disbanded pretty pretty much. I mean, they stopped operations. Their president, Eric Braverman went over to another uh Eric Schmidt and his wife Wendy's and they moved all four five legs of the Clinton Foundation over there. So in both class actions we were able to stop uh the Podesta Group which was the most powerful lobbying firm in Washington DC and then the Clinton Foundation which is Clinton Global Initiative which did a lot of overthrows like Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Iran nuclear deal. My point is is that class action comes about when the the uh foundation no longer answers transparency questions to their donors. And I don't want to hurt, and I think I made this clear this morning, I don't want to hurt TPUSA. I want to get the cancer and the infiltration out of TPUSA. And that's and I think if you get the cancer out, which is TPUSA faith and Rob McCoy, you save TPUSA. And that's what I think Charlie was trying to do with the Doge audit, right? He was trying to get out this infiltration. And so, uh, the initial thing I filed with Mikey McCoy, who was listed as the agent of record for the TPUSA, is called a expoliation notice, meaning retain all records. Don't destroy any records relating to me. I I reported for uh TPUSA in Houston in in the elections in 2022. I reported on the Greg Phillips case and I went five days to a trial there. Don't destroy any of those records. Don't destroy any of the records related to my involvement with TPUSA and retain all records. Now, I haven't filed yet, but I've done this twice before because I want them to go with the Doge audit. I want them to voluntarily I want TPUSA to voluntarily I'm not asking for any money, by the way. That's the other thing I want to get clear. Everybody thinks, "Oh, you're doing this for money." I do a Substack where I get paid $8 a month. If you want the Substack, pay me the $8 a month. I'm not trying to raise money on this. Don't send me money for the lawsuit. That's not my motivation. I want them to institute the Doge audit so we know that cancer that Charlie said was in the company is either we identify it or give them a clean bill of health. Right. Right now, we have this cloud and the trial isn't until May. Uh May is when the uh next court date is for the uh probable cause hearing. That's May. I don't want to wait to May. I want to do what Charlie wanted to do, which is do the Doge audit. I will suspend the class action. Remember, there's, you know, not just me. There's 10,000 other people involved here. Actually, we have a donor list of over half a million people. I'm just saying there's potentially a half a million people in this class action. I don't want to do that if they move ahead with the Doge audit. Okay. So, and I haven't filed it yet, but we'll probably file it in Michigan because I was working for TPUSA in Michigan. That's where I left to go to Houston. Uh, so that's there's we have some choices about where we can file it, but it's it's probably going to be Michigan. >> Now, did I was it the original plan to do it during Afest? >> No. Uh, some of the I'm not trying to I I just want people to raise the question of if Charlie thought it was a good idea and then he was killed, doesn't that still make it a good idea? >> Is it a bad idea now because Charlie was killed? Because if they killed Charlie because he wanted the Doge audit, then I would want the Doge audit twice as bad. There must be something about this Doge audit that you guys are so afraid of. Why don't we do the Doge audit? So, I've been talking trying to get them to do the Doge audit for three months. I went there for a month in in Utah and now two months talking about please do the Doge audit and now we're at Afest and this is a place where they should be talking about this internally, right? So, I'm publicizing. The reason why I publicized it now is so that at Afest they'll talk about it because wouldn't you, let's say you were joining this new organization because Charlie Kirk got killed >> and you knew Charlie wanted the Doge audit. Wouldn't you want to just kind of >> just get that cloud out of here and get a clean bell of health and go, "No, I'm in a good organization. There's nothing to hide here." >> So, that's why we did it because there's a whole bunch of new people coming. There's 9,000 new chapters. There's a whole bunch of new people and I don't want to see them get sucked in like Charlie and then all of a sudden find out they've been involved in some kind of moneyaundering operation. >> Yeah. And when you speak about wanting to take out the cancer, I totally understand that. Uh but you mentioned TPUs faith. I think most of us, most people that I've listened to, um well I think we all collectively agree that Rob McCoy is untrustworthy. He's been caught in multiple lies. But apparently, according to Candace, as of yesterday, Rob McCoy doesn't even work for TPUSA, >> right? Um, >> which was crazy to hear. I didn't know that. >> Well, and he was the one who changed the website to say he worked for TPUSA Faith the day after Charlie was killed. That's always a little crazy. If you don't work for him, why are you changing the website to say that you run their uh pastor? You know, they have a pastor outreach program and a youth program. So why are you saying you run the pastor program if you if you don't work there? I think they what they've done is gotten rid of him so they could destroy all the records in involved with him. Uh because basically the pastor infiltration program of a thousand churches is was run by Rob McCoy. But I didn't I didn't serve Rob McCoy. I served Mikey McCoy. And I and we're going to send the certified letters to all the board members. But I have recommended if you're if you don't get sufficient answers and you are a new recruit at Afest and they go for these young kids that are in college and then they send them off to Washington and they want them to be spies when they become pages and legislative assistants when they get in these parties when they get to Washington. If they don't give you those answers, stand up in the middle of the awards banquet and say, um, you know, I'm not getting the answers I need, [laughter] right? I'm uncomfortable. We should do a Doge on it. Just stand up in the middle of the awards banquet and say, we should do Doge because they should do Doge. Charlie thought it was a good idea uh three months ago, and I still think it's a great idea. What do they have to fear? If if [clears throat] the books are as clean as they say they are, why not just run the run the thing? Why not just run it? I don't want to hurt people think, "Oh, George is wanting to hurt TPUsa." I don't want to hurt uh TPUsa. I want to heal TPUSA. Heal. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm a bit more skeptical or at least my takeaway from listening to you is I'm a little bit more skeptical and side eyeing some of those that are at TPUSA that are not named Justin Strife. M Mikey McCoy's turnaround timing is beyond wild to me. Like you don't have to be a superhero. You don't have to run towards Charlie. scream, be shocked, something, duck, run. He He was calm. He turned around. He never dialed anything. He put the phone up to his ear. And I'm I'm sharing it again to say, "I will be surprised if you ever hear response from Mikey McCoy to to this um >> I can't pronounce the word, but the the the warning that you sent him, >> right?" Oh, I I sent him a spoliation notice. >> Uh, that's just retain all records. Don't destroy my records for my Houston reporting of Char with Charlie. And Charlie was good enough to have me on the show. There was three different stories I was covering there. And he only had me on for the Greg Phillips story. But I was covering three different stories. The immigrant. >> You've been on the Charlie Kirk show? >> Yeah, I was. >> That's what you're saying. Now it's It clicks. Oh, I didn't know that. >> Yeah, I was on the Charlie Kirk show in November of 2022. I covered the Greg Phillips trial. I covered the elections uh for in in um in Houston and I also covered the migrant village that they had uh and I can't remember the you know name of the migrant village right now but it was just north it was in the kind of the south area of South Houston that I went up there and I kind of find out was kind of a non-story so so it didn't go anywhere but Charlie had me on for the Greg Phillips thing which uh was him in his trial I was there five So, I just don't want them to destroy those records, you know? I want to say, "Hey, wait a minute. I have standing here. I have I gave money. I I donated. I flew down there. That that was a donation. I five days of hotel donation. All my meals was a donation. So, I have standing here. So, I just want to see TPUSA be on the same path that that Charlie Kirk put it on and Candace put it on, >> which was about the first amendment, the Second Amendment, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, uh the const uh the um Declaration of Independence, and then the founding documents in England also. And I'm talking to John Mapen who talked to them a lot about the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights in England before we took inherited that. That was the way it was going. It was about the protecting free speech and the right to assemble and the free press and free speech. It turned into after Rob McCoy got in there with TPSA faith, it started turning toward, well, we need to rebuild the third temple in Israel. Here's all the ways that Christianity is really Israeli. Shabbat shalom. all this Israeli stuff, you know, and I'm like, that's not what that's not what Candace and Charlie started it out to do. >> But there was all this money coming from Israel that caused it to turn that way. And I just want to see it go back on the original track, which was First Amendment, you know, >> and and that and that's my and that's my all my only interest in this >> for sure. It'll be very interesting to see how that plays out. Um, thank you for sharing. My last question for you is Trump. Take it as far as you like. Go as broad as you'd like. Keep it as specific as you'd like. I'm curious your thoughts around Trump this uh second time around in the White House and specifically as it relates to this whole um Charlie Kirk incident, how he's sort of in my opinion fumbled the ball much like the Epstein situation. He seems extremely disinterested. He seemed that way from the get-go for me. Um, what are your thoughts around that? >> I agree with you. Um, unbelievable. You This is why you have an FBI director. This is why you have uh Tulsa Gabber. Tulsy Gabber tried to step in because there was the foreign planes and she was told to step out uh by the feds which uh she was stiff armed. I think the change with Dan Bonino I think is going to be showing more interest in Charlie Kirk. >> Really? >> Yes. Yes. I think the new deputy, whoever the new deputy is going to be, is going to be put in for in charge of a task force to get to the bottom of the Charlie Kirk case because the public just doesn't believe uh they have to name the task force. And uh I think Trump's going to talk about something else tonight. I think he's going to talk about ground operations in Venezuela. But I also think as a part of that, he's going to talk about a task force being set up to get to the bottom of the Charlie Kirk murder. We had one for Kennedy, if you remember. or it was just 20 years later um or 15 years later. I think that's what he's going to name tonight. And there was supposed to be a transparency group inside the Congress if you remember, right, with Luna and all them. They kind of lost their way and forgot the Epstein files were important. So, I think I think there's this Trump realizes there's this credibility gap like you're saying and I think Trump is going to try to close that gap. That's not the major story tonight. I think the big story tonight is Venezuela, but but but that's the secondary thing he's going to be announcing in the next week. >> That's interesting. Well, well, thank you. I appreciate that. Um, thank you for giving me your time. I probably got another five minutes. Um, uh, George, we got to have you on again, especially as as this this, um, if the lawsuit progresses, we'll we'll I'll be keeping an eye on that as well. and definitely want to I'm I'm super curious to see what this guy is going to say later this week on Candace's show about what he witnessed, you know, um because I think it'll add a little bit more credibility to what she's been saying because many people just, you know, they they they've said that she's been making this stuff up. >> Yeah, I I think they'll have meetings um the day before. There's no question in my mind. Uh and they'll have receipts. Uh the my point is is the follow the money and the money is Pierre Deupont and the billionaire. But uh uh DD it's great being on your show. I've seen you a million times all over the internet and and uh so it's finally great to see you uh and be on your show >> for sure. Um I don't know if you know I want to remind you uh you mentioned Wolves in Finance. Shout out to Zach. Love his show. He and I have talked um a little bit behind the scenes. I I don't know if you know I'm not responsible for it. I was just lucky to to be able to interview the guy. But the first person just to give him the credit to actually break the news around who had conducted his own forensic audit or Doge style audit is actually a guy by the name of Brian and I actually interviewed him. So his interview was actually the the first one to drop that kind of >> made the rounds and then Wolves and Finance came and did his incredible work as well. >> Great. I mean, give everybody the credit. Uh, I think there's more there. I think Doge, if you gave those guys the Doge, you know, power tools like Elon gave those other guys, they'll find a whole bunch of stuff. So, uh, that's all that class action is for is discovery. If there's nothing to hide, everything's going to be fine. So, thank you. It's been an honor to be on your show. >> Absolutely. And we have to do this again in the future. >> Let's do it. Okay. Thank you. >> All right, guys. That was great. enjoyed talking to him. I hope that was very substantive and very insightful for most of you. I probably got another three minutes if that. I just try to bring you all the experts. I'm not an expert and maybe we can learn something together. But I would like to say he's a little bit too lenient when it comes to TPUSA um compared to me and definitely um a bit more hopeful and optimistic when it comes to Trump as well. I do not have faith in Trump in trying to get to the bottom of this trolley Kirk situation. I don't have evidence that Trump knew about it, but I would say that his behavior is indicative of someone um who has far more important things to be concerned about um other than the arguably the most publicized powpowing or alleged powpowing in America since JFK, you I love y'all, man. Thank Thank you for supporting. 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