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Candace Owens exposes an extensive web of military connections surrounding Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA, and key figures in conservative media. From the medical staff who treated Charlie to the handlers who appeared after the 2018 Kanye West tweet, Owens traces a pattern of military-industrial complex influence. She examines the strange circumstances of Charlie's treatment, questions the official narrative, and reveals how military backgrounds permeate leadership positions across major conservative organizations. This investigation connects genealogy, psychological operations, and the manipulation tactics used to control narratives and silence questions about what happened on September 10th.
The Turning Point Response to Mikey McCoy Questions
Turning Point USA issued statements defending Mikey McCoy's actions after Charlie Kirk was shot. Andrew Kolvet claims Charlie himself drilled into Mikey's mind exactly what to do in such circumstances - specifically to call Erica immediately if anything happened. According to their explanation, Mikey wasn't on his phone immediately after the shooting. He was taking social videos for group chats, as he did at every event. When the shots rang out, he allegedly put his fingers in his ears while still holding his phone, then walked away through a narrow choke point where crowds were evacuating.
The explanation raises questions. While it tracks that staff would film behind-the-scenes content, Mikey's positioning doesn't align with capturing Charlie asking questions. He stood behind Charlie, not to the side where both Charlie and the questioner would be visible. The claim that Charlie instructed him to call Erica rather than provide aid seems like common sense about contacting next of kin, not specific instructions for a shooting scenario.
Frank Turek and Alex Marlow joined the defense, employing psychological manipulation tactics. Marlow compared those asking questions to drug addicts getting high on conspiracy theories, likening the behavior to pornography addiction. This represents a classic psychological operation - when they don't want you investigating something, they diagnose you. Turek used biblical manipulation, suggesting that questioning the narrative constitutes "causing dissension among the brothers, which is something the Lord hates."
April 2018: The Energy Shift and Kanye West
Something significant happened in April 2018. Charlie Kirk was having vivid dreams throughout that month - dreams he'd experienced his entire life about dying in a tragic, quick way. But in April, the dreams intensified. He felt convinced something big was about to happen. Candace felt it too. They were young, doing the Fox News circuit, but not yet well-known. Candace focused on Black Lives Matter, believing they were lying to black Americans. Charlie was just 23 or 24 years old.
They listened to Kanye West's music daily, especially the song "Power." Candace told Charlie explicitly: "We have to get to Kanye West. I can tell by his music this person does not want to be part of the system. If we can get to Kanye, I think he'll join my Blexit movement." On April 13, 2018, Candace texted Charlie: "Yo, Kanye West writing a philosophy book called Break the Simulation. We need him, Charlie. He is Blexit AF." Charlie responded: "I love Kanye. He's my soul brother. I will find a way to him. I promise we have to."
Then Mike Cernovich, who hadn't spoken to them about their feelings, tweeted a series of messages on April 16th about an energy shift happening. He wrote: "A change in energy which stuns high consciousness people does not mean bad. It simply means that it's cosmic. A paradigm is shifting. Something is happening." He continued: "Several high consciousness people I've spoken to independently told me about feeling a shift in energy. Something is going on. It happened two to three weeks ago. I'm not talking politics or elections. It's much bigger energy shift."
Candace screenshotted the tweets and sent them to Charlie, writing: "Charlie, what the f?" Charlie replied: "Yep, we felt it, too. Remember I told you the dreams got darker." The night before Kanye's tweet, April 20th, Charlie messaged Candace: "I'm on a run and I'm blasting Kanye West and we're on the brink of something big and like this is our time. Are you ready for the war that's coming? We're going to fight. We're going to win. They will lose." Candace responded: "So exciting. It's our time." He said: "Yes."
The next morning, Kanye West tweeted: "I love the way Candace Owens thinks." Seven words that changed everything. Candace woke up shaking, texted Charlie to pick up. Charlie wrote back: "I am freaking the f out." They were certain they had manifested it. Everything changed in that moment. Retrospectively, it would never be the same again.
Scott Adams and the Reality Shift
Scott Adams explained the significance to his followers. He drew on a board, telling them something much bigger had taken place and people needed to pay attention for almost cosmic reasons. Adams said: "He tweeted, 'I like the way Candace Owens thinks, seven words.' And he ripped a hole in reality with seven words because Kanye is supposed to be over here and Candace is supposed to be over here. And they're not ever supposed to say the other one said something, right? That's not supposed to happen. But Kanye did it anyway."
Adams continued: "Whatever else you want to say about him, he did something that you could rarely see. He actually just altered reality. He just made the entire conservative Twitter sphere just go something like this. It's like your head just went - What did I just see? Did I really see this? The story is that these two people that shouldn't be in the same conversation - in seven words, Kanye just changed that and he just freed a lot of people from a mental prison. Kanye in seven words unlocked a mental prison and is bringing you to the golden age."
The Handlers Appear
From that moment onward, Candace believes she and Charlie were assigned handlers. This is an expression Kanye used to say - having a handler. She thought he was just referring to Hollywood. She now believes she has had handlers since 2018 and that things were done intentionally to pull her and Charlie apart.
After tweeting back at Kanye asking for a meeting, she heard from David Horowitz of the Freedom Center - the person who first invited her to speak at his conference when she was going viral on YouTube. He's also the stepfather to Ben Horowitz, whom Benjamin Netanyahu insists should be part of the group buying TikTok because they think it's important for psychological warfare in the future. Horowitz messaged saying his son knows Kanye and he'd like to facilitate a meeting.
Suddenly Eric Weinstein got involved, reaching out and pretending he wanted to be a friend. She learned quickly he's a bad person. But at the time, she and Charlie were pro-Israel and amazed by the tweet. They thought all these people genuinely wanted to help. Rick Rubin, the big music industry figure, also got into the mix wanting to facilitate meetings.
On the Turning Point USA side, Tyler Bowyer - who she says she could do a whole episode on - started hiring people. He was the only person with Charlie before introducing him to everyone Charlie knows. He starts hiring bigger and more professional money raisers, PR people like Andrew Kolvet. At every moment, forces seemed to be trying to tell them this wasn't allowed to happen.
Kanye's handlers told him he wasn't allowed to be involved in politics. He was getting angrier about it. This was during his time with Kim Kardashian, who wanted nothing to do with politics. Political friends told Charlie and Candace not to get involved with Kanye because he's crazy, that they were on a trajectory and it would backfire. But they insisted - they dreamed this, they wanted him to be part of Blexit.
The UK Trip and Meeting Her Husband
At the exact same time, Candace felt a spiritual pull to go to the UK. Charlie and she had no business there, no reason to go, nothing happening in the UK. She messaged Charlie: "We should go to the UK. I don't know why. I just I'm getting the vibe we need to go to the UK."
In October, after Kanye helped design the Blexit logo, his pressure cooker got too hot. They told him he would lose everything - his marriage, everything - if he didn't abstain from politics after going to the White House in the MAGA hat. He needed to distance from them and Blexit. He cracked. The headline read: "Kanye West distances himself from Blexit and Trump. He says, 'I've been used to spread messages.'" Kanye never wrote that statement - one of his handlers did. It read: "My eyes are now wide open and I now realize that I've been used to spread messages that I don't believe in. I am distancing myself from politics and completely focusing on being creative."
Candace called Mike Cernovich asking why Kanye was doing this, whether she should release pictures of him directing the logo designer. Cernovich gave sound advice: don't. You have no idea what he's going through. She's now grateful for that advice because she understands what that pressure is like when they come for your family and everything, and all you have to do is disavow this or that and everything goes back to normal.
She was saved by the unexpected pull to the UK. The person Charlie reached out to for organizing any speaking event was John and Iryna Zarutska Mappen - the lone donors who wrote the beautiful letter that impacted the world, true friends of Charlie who stood up and said what Turning Point USA is doing is wrong. At that December event in London, Candace first laid eyes on her husband. She looked at him and felt like she had already known him. It felt exactly like a sigh of relief. She got engaged after 18 days because of that inexplicable feeling.
The February 2019 Hitler Scandal
Two months after that London event, something strange happened. Someone at BuzzFeed cut a clip from the Q&A portion of that UK event, stripped the question that was asked, and shared it claiming Candace was justifying Hitler killing Jews. She was green and didn't understand why they were suddenly sharing this clip.
Someone asked her to explain her nationalism label, noting it's sometimes a dirty term. She answered by saying it's wrongly attributed to Hitler, who wasn't a nationalist. She didn't mention Jews at all. The clip went viral with articles saying she supported Hitler, that she said if Hitler had just wanted to make Germany great again, then okay, fine - with no context. It was a severe cancel culture attack claiming she supported Jews being killed in the Holocaust.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center - the official Holocaust people - issued a statement against her comments. This was heavy, especially for Charlie and Candace who were still new and scared. She didn't realize this was a matrix of people wanting to pull her and Charlie apart, putting pressure on him so donors would say she's supporting Hitler, such a bad look.
Despite this, PragerU offered her a job in early 2019. At the time, she thought they were just being friends. She doesn't know what to think anymore. Marissa Streiter, the CEO, never shied from telling people she worked intelligence in the IDF in Israel. Candace took the job. She and Charlie still climbed together, but were also working apart. They kept doing campus tours, but she was officially working for PragerU.
One of the first things that happened - it felt like "we can save you but here's what you have to do" - was Marissa took her to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Candace was so grateful, wondering who she had to apologize to so they'd know she didn't hate Jews. There was some chief rabbi looking character. He and Marissa spoke in Hebrew. Candace didn't understand a word said in front of her. Then they left and everything was fine. Her reputation was restored temporarily.
The Military Pattern
Throughout that timeframe, Candace did her show. Her first PragerU episode was in March 2019. Charlie kept climbing. Turning Point USA became a behemoth. She remembers speaking at their conferences and saying they were running like a military operation - so efficient, on time, tactical. She didn't realize how prescient that thought would become.
In her old age, she's grown increasingly interested in genealogy because you start recognizing patterns when you look into who people's fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers were. The shocking thing about Charlie and Turning Point USA is how many military characters were surrounding him, even on September 10th - people who were in the hospital.
Frank Turek: former officer in the US Navy who turned to Christian apologetics. He has two sons in the military who fly planes, plus one son's spouse in the military. He's never lied about this.
Andrew Kolvet: She didn't know, doesn't think Charlie knew when Tyler brought him or when he got hired - his brother Captain Kurt Kolvet is in the military. His cousin Captain Robert Kolvet is high up in the military. She thought he was just a PR guy.
Rob McCoy: Another pastor with very strong military background. His father Roy Edgar McCoy was a naval captain and also assistant chief of staff for psychological warfare in the Navy. Psychological warfare - the name of the game. This trajectory is increasingly interesting. This is Mikey McCoy's family.
Investigative journalist George Webb spoke about Rob McCoy: "McCoy does have this strange military background. He does have this strange seemingly putting his son in there and guiding the hand for this new apostolic revival that he is a NAR person. He is kind of the NAR push for Charlie. Charlie was meeting with NAR. NAR were the $25 million and above donors from the Christian right. Ziklag was the name of the organization."
The Media Military Connection
After PragerU, Candace went to the Daily Wire. The president at the time was also a naval intelligence officer who decided to become a pastor - John Beres. In retrospect, what are the chances of so many military people in media?
She got interested and started asking: are we in a military simulation? Mr. Beast, the biggest person on YouTube - both his parents are high up in the military. Does anyone think he really got trillions of views because people wanted to see somebody count to a million, or is that interesting? His family's military, high up in the military.
Everywhere she looked - Lila Rose, Catholic, speaks about the pro-life movement, converted to Catholicism. Candace met her through Marissa, kind of the same people funding both. It was interesting when she saw Lila jump on attacking "Christ is king" or trying to rationalize why people shouldn't say it all the time - the lone Catholic doing that. Then she got super interested when Lila messaged about Andrew Tate, having one of his accusers' lawyers on her show. This has nothing to do with the pro-life movement. That woman then attacked Candace and Tucker Carlson. That's weird - supposed to be the pro-life person talking to Andrew Kolvet's party to that lawsuit, talking to her lawyer. Why on your show? Why doesn't she go on CNN or Fox News? And of course - military, military all over that background.
Looking at Bari Weiss and her grandfather - there's an incredible story. A bomb thrown at his house in Pittsburgh, related to casinos. The whole thing gets crazy when you realize everyone's somehow attached to Raytheon. Mr. Beast, they're all attached to Raytheon one way or another.
The Medical Examiner and Hospital Questions
There's more. They were lied to about the 306. Candace knows for a fact Charlie's neck was not destroyed. Certainly not destroyed. If she's lying, sue her for defamation and you'll learn exactly how she knows.
This makes Andrew Kolvet's tweet explaining the conversation with the surgeon especially interesting. He said the surgeon stated he would have taken down a moose, but Charlie's neck - he's the man of steel. People rightly said that's not the job of the surgeon. That's the job of forensics, the medical examiner would be the right person to say that. Who was the medical examiner? Who were the doctors? Any chance they were military?
The answer's yes. The doctor who worked on Charlie was Dr. Lee Trotter. He did his residency at Keesler Air Force Medical Center in Mississippi. She thinks he might actually be in the Air Force from what she's looking at. Can't confirm entirely, but there's a person matching his name, age, description, living where he's living who is actually in the Air Force. He's also a pilot, so it would track that he was in the military.
The medical examiner, Dr. Greg Smith-Amaro - who would be the appropriate person to have the conversation with - is a major in the Army. She's also from a major corporation. She's from the Ericson family. The Ericson Boyd Corporation is her family. She tells people she's a direct descendant of Leif Erikson. This brings us into Swedish Freemason stuff. She's certain she's an Ericson, a thousand percent certain. She's also now a lesbian. Why was she just made a major in the Army? Why did they need this woman in? Why were people researching these doctors and this specific medical examiner?
The Military-Industrial Complex Theory
The military-industrial complex that Eisenhower forewarned of, the military-industrial complex that shot JFK to maintain power, has created a veneer of reality that is not real. We are under a veil. These corporations, people put at the head of these corporations who we're told are geniuses or just so successful like Mr. Beast - these are military operations.
This military-industrial complex has had actors, military actors, some of which were there when Charlie got shot. Weird behavior from people. The first people to get booked. It was hard to find a student who spoke to mainstream media news organizations that day. Something's not right. There are too many military players surrounding Charlie, and they weren't there before 2018. They weren't there until forces were trying to pull Candace and Charlie apart.
When you start to look at things and assess people and they tell you someone's a genius, then you learn they have a contract with the Department of Defense - they might just be a military actor meant to lead a company. Because if we all looked up and realized the military owns everything and maybe has owned everything and controlled everything since they shot JFK, that wouldn't be a good thing for us to know. We don't know it, but she kind of knows.
The Utah Valley Hospital File
There's something interesting she was hesitant to speak about but decided to share, with a caution not to spin out of control with conspiracy theories. On September 10th and thereafter, while doing these episodes, they received a flurry of tips from people telling them Charlie was not at Timpanogos Hospital but at Utah Valley Hospital.
There was the whole question of why they went to Timpanogos, a level three trauma center, when the closer one was Utah Valley Hospital. They never understood why the ambulance wasn't there when required by law. He goes into a car - no footage or indication of the drive or arrival at Timpanogos.
People said: "I was downstairs at Utah Valley Hospital when Charlie was brought in. I'm telling you he was definitely at this hospital." Someone else: "I was receiving treatment downstairs or upstairs and we knew he was at this hospital. Then somebody came in and announced Charlie had just died upstairs." It was strange. She thought maybe people got confused, maybe a nurse texted a nurse.
But then they received an email from somebody on medical staff at Utah Valley Hospital saying they're certain he was there and they have a medical file. They received text at 8:08 PM saying they're not allowed to touch the medical file. The entry in the Utah Valley Hospital system for Charlie Kirk had his right birthday, his age, an MRN number. The individual shared the internal message telling them they're not allowed to touch the file.
The message read: "Hi all. There was a media event that took place today that led to a trauma patient. Due to the nature of the situation, the only individuals who will be allowed in the chart will be Deborah and myself. No one else is allowed to hover or open the chart. Jacob blank. Deb and I will be doing the log tomorrow. Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions."
Maybe the reason is these two medical hospitals speak to each other, like if you go to CVS and pick up a prescription at one location, the other knows. She's confirmed that doesn't seem to be the circumstance. It's possible because maybe Dr. Lee Trotter, who she's heard works at both - limited surgeons going back and forth - somehow created a file. But she'd like to know definitively what the answer is for why he has a file at Utah Valley Hospital, why there seems to be so much confusion. There could be a logical answer. She hasn't stumbled upon it yet.
The Book Club Infiltration
The one safe place was the book club. They're real, ratchet in the book club. She says whatever because she knows people there are ready for it. They're talking about Frankism, the Kabbalah, the infiltration into churches as an intentional aspect of the Frankist movement. They go quickly through books, learning about Sigmund Freud. It starts with Sigmund Freud, ends with operation mocking pastor or that's where they are now.
Zionists actually purchased the book club pass and started sharing clips, watermarked as if it was their own content to make money - Milk Bar TV. She hit him with a copyright strike. He literally put Milk Bar TV content on the corner, watermarked her content to smear her, right? If you're going to watermark content, at least don't smear her and call her crazy.
They were upset she said it was ridiculous that we're supposed to think Charlie is being honored because he got a Charlie Kirk day in October. She meant it. She says what she means. She'll feel Charlie is honored when they figure out who killed him, because she's not buying the lone shooter thing. She said: "Miss me with the whole holiday theater. Tell me who actually killed him."
It's a typical federal maneuver to kill someone like Martin Luther King or JFK and then they get a holiday, they get a boulevard. She would have said it off the book club, but they clipped it, tried to take it out of context. But it's not 2018 and she's not new to what they do. These out-of-context clips aren't hitting the same. People are awake. They know what's happening, they see what you're doing.
Nathan Livingstone cried when he got hit with a copyright strike. Literally crying while striking someone else. He stole content, got caught stealing content and trying to make money off it. Then he tweets: "Candace Owens hit my account. I tried to steal and she didn't let me. Why is she trying to silence me? Why won't she let me steal?"
Brigitte Macron Update
Everybody is tired of Brigitte Macron lying about having been born with a penis. If you haven't watched the Becoming Brigitte series and you're appreciating what she's doing with the Charlie Kirk series, go back and watch it. Same thing - she told the truth, people were upset, the media was upset, the series went viral. There's no way you can watch the series and come out thinking Brigitte was born female. You can't just disappear 30 years of your life, can't just say you didn't take a picture for 30 years.
Such an easy bar to set to dispel rumors. Can we get pictures from your wedding day? You with your family? Not just pictures from a woman facing charges for falsifying pictures? They've got four photos of the whole life. She's being sued because that's the next logical step - sue people for telling the truth to scare them.
It's all related. Who Brigitte actually is, the families Brigitte is related to, the fact that Emmanuel Macron is just like the state of Israel - a Rothschild creation. Talking about the military-industrial complex and the Kabbalah. Kabbalah very much is the reason for this push in culture for transgenderism. That's an important series.
What happened this week: people who hadn't even watched the series saw enough. Brigitte Macron crying because she doesn't know why on French tax forms, Brigitte is listed as Jean-Michel and listed as male. They're trying to lie and tell the public they think this was done by hackers. Hackers who haven't been arrested. This happened years ago.
It was someone who worked for her who said: "This is weird. I'm in your account right now and you're registered as a dude named Jean-Michel." Mr. Burme, a government official, made the revelation and recounted how Brigitte was stunned to learn her legal name had been quote-unquote changed when she logged into her personal tax account. "We were completely surprised," said Mr. Burme.
We're supposed to believe the government, which Brigitte is controlling - this person Burme has worked with the couple since 2017 - we're supposed to believe a hacker was going to risk hacking the president of France. The government decided to hack the government and only change the name. If you're going to risk that kind of criminal offense, at least take money. At least say they wiped out $2 million. No - just wanted to hack and risk criminal charges to change your name to Jean-Michel way back when this wasn't even a viral story. Completely ridiculous.
You were born Jean-Michel Trogneux. You transitioned and you've been put in this position of power. You got away with offending Emmanuel when he was 14 years old - a sexual offense. A 14-year-old kid with a 40-year-old adult going after him. Now you're pretending you're the victim. A little bit crazy. We're getting tired of it. Can't keep pretending everything is just happening to you.
Just present some pictures. Stop pretending you're offering genetic evidence in the court hearing. You're not even suing for the claim of being born male. You're suing for the claim of stealing your sister's identity to transition, amongst very many other ridiculous things. You've never offered genetic evidence because you didn't even get to that stage of the hearing. Haven't gotten to any stage actually. It's the back-and-forth tit-for-tat changing the filings, all very preliminary. Just doing the most in terms of PR trying to convince the world against something everyone recognizes - that you were born male. Come clean. Everybody worldwide is exhausted with your wife's penis.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. So, here's what's going on
today. Turning Point USA has issued a statement, a couple of statements, actually. Um, for
one, they say the reason that Mikey McCoy walked away so swiftly after Charlie got
shot is because Charlie himself told Mikey to do that. Charlie somehow drilled into Mikey
McCoy's mind exactly what he should do in that circumstance. Are you buying that? Any buyers
of that? I'd like to know because if there are, I'd like to inform you. Didn't want to say it this
way, but I am in fact a Nigerian princess. I am stranded currently on an island. I'm going to need
you to send your credit card details right now so I can return home. And if you do, I will transfer
you $1 million when I get back to my kingdom. Frank Turk is also being added into the mix. He
is telling me, plus other conspiracy theorists, to shut up unless we have the facts. Okay, Frank,
challenge accepted. Let's learn some more facts today. Lastly, in case you missed it, while I was
away, they infiltrated our book club. Our book club has gone viral. My one safe place. I only had
one safe space and it was my book club. And the Zionists are now there. And they say, you guessed
it, I am going crazy. Welcome back to Candace. Today is actually a really important episode. I
want you to pay attention very close attention to what I'm about to share with you. A lot of this
is gut instinct. That's what we do here and I think it will change the way you think about the
world. I'm going to start by building upon what we discussed yesterday. I had mentioned to you all
honestly that something was happening in April of 2018. A lot of things actually were happening
in April of 2018, but of course hindsight is 2020 and I'm going to share some things with
you. I don't know what everything means, but I know that it means something. Back when
I did my initial tribute video to Charlie, some people uh took issues theologically when
I said that the day that Kanye West tweeted, "I love the way Candace Owens thinks. Charlie and
I freaked out because we were convinced that we had somehow manifested that. I'm aware. I received
tons of emails. This goes against Christian doctrine." This was 2018. I was not a Catholic.
And I think it's important to discuss that and why we thought we manifested that because it is
extremely relevant to what took place thereafter. I have to explain that moment to you. As I showed
you yesterday, Charlie was having a lot of vivid dreams. Dreams that he said he had throughout
his entire life that he was going to die in a really tragic quick way. But especially in April,
he was having vivid dreams that something big was about to happen. This is in the weeks leading up
to the tweet. Okay, full stop. Charlie knew and I felt that we were on the brink of something big.
Okay, you have to remember we were young. I'm a lot older than Charlie. What was Charlie 24 at the
time? Maybe maybe even 23 years old at the time. And we were doing the Fox News Gambit, every show
on Fox News. But I was really just focused on BLM, Black Lives Matter. I felt they were lying
to black Americans and it was going to harm us. Neither one of us was very well known at this
time. We had just kind of gotten together um the November before and it is just a fact that we were
listening to Kanye West music every day. I mean literally every day, especially the song Power.
Okay. I was telling Charlie explicitly, we have to get to Kanye West. I can tell by his music. This
is what I'm saying to Charlie. I know these lyrics inside and out. This person does not want to be
a part of the system. If we can get to Kanye, I think he'll join my Blexit movement. I got to wake
up black Americans to this scam. Uh that they're using our race to control our emotions, which
now to me seems so molecular because I see how much bigger the issue is. But um I just knew that
uh Kanye West was not a part of the simulation, so to speak, and that the song Power, as Kanye
said, is a battlecry to be yourself because of the lyrics. And I have this old text that I'm going to
show you from Charlie. This is April 13th, 2018. This is what I said to him just so you can kind
of get the vibe of what was going on. I said, "Yo, Kanye West writing a philosophy philosophy book
called Break the Simulation. We need him, Charlie. He is Blexit AF." And Charlie wrote back, "I love
Kanye. He's my soul brother. I will find a way to him. I promise we have to." It's crazy to look at
that and realize that he's about to tweet us, uh, about to tweet me. So, there was this incredible
buildup and we felt this palpable energy, a shifting almost that we kept discussing in all
the messages. were like something something's happening in April. Something's happening. And
then on April 16th, Mike Cernovich, you might be familiar with him, he does this series of tweets,
having not spoken to me or Charlie about how we were feeling, saying that he was speaking to a lot
of his friends who could feel that there was some sort of an energy shift energy shift happening.
So you imagine we're like, what? H there is something definitely happening here. How could
Mike Cernovich randomly be tweeting this series of tweets? It shocked me. So, I sent those tweets
to Charlie. I'm going to show you that now. These are from Mike Cernovich. He has since deleted
these tweets, but you can ask him. Uh, he wrote, "A change in energy." This is Mike Cernovich. A
change in energy which stuns high consciousness people does not mean bad. It simply means that
it's cosmic. A paradigm is shifting. Something is happening. And that people get angry at me
shows the shift. Why care? the energy manifests itself in different ways. He goes on to say,
"Several high consciousness people I've spoken to independently told me about feeling a shift
in energy. Something is going on. It happened two to three weeks ago. I'm not talking politics
or elections. It's much bigger energy shift. I saw this and I obviously screenshotted it. I sent
I sent the tweets to not screenshot it. I just sent the tweets to Charlie and I said, "Charlie,
what the f? I had a bad potty mouth in 2018. Going through these tweets, I realized that I I don't
swear nearly as much or at all anymore. And then Charlie said, "Yep, we felt it, too. Remember
I told you uh the dreams got darker." Again, I'm painting a picture here of what was going
on. It We're going to, you know, get deeper here on what transpired on the eve before Kanye West
tweeted us. Again, we are still in April. This is April 20th. The evening before Kanye West tweets
me, Charlie messages me and he says, "I'm on a run and I'm blasting Kanye West and we're on the brink
of something big and like this is our time." Let me show you that tweet night before I'm listening
to Kanye and just running my streets. Are you ready for the war that's coming? We're going to
fight. We're going to win. They will lose. I said, "So exciting. It's our time." He said, "Yes."
And then the next morning, as you can see, I woke up to news of the tweets and I said, "Please
pick up because I was shaking." And then Charlie wrote back and said, "I am freaking the f out."
When I said to you guys, you had to be there. We were certain we had manifested. It was It was kind
of freaky. That's the right word. We were freaking out going, "How is this real? How did we know what
is happening right now in the world?" And yeah, Kanye sent this now infamous tweet. I love the
way Kenneth Owens thinks. I want you to know this. Everything for Charlie and I changed in a
blink of an eye in that moment and retrospectively it would never be the same again. It was indeed a
paradigm shift. I mentioned to you guys yesterday that I remember that we both watched Scott Adams.
I did not know who he was at this time. Again, I was very green and I'm not an overtly political
person, so I didn't know who Scott Adams was, but I remember vividly watching him draw
on a board and explain to his very many followers that something much bigger had taken
place and that people needed to pay attention to this tweet for almost cosmic reasons. Let's
take a listen to what Scott Adams said on that day. What did he tweet? He tweeted, "I like
the way Candace Owens thinks, seven words." And he ripped a hole in reality with seven
words because Kanye is supposed to be over here and Candace is supposed to be over here. And
they're not ever supposed to say the other one said something, right? All right. That's not
supposed to happen. But Kanye did it anyway. Kanye knows history doesn't repeat. He's not a
prisoner of the mind. He knows that the problem is not the solution. Whatever you want
to say about Kanye's politics, and I don't even know what what his preferred politics would be.
I'm not even sure what party he would run for if he ran for president at this point. whatever
else you want to say about him. And I don't know enough about his actual, you know, management
skills or or political ability. Uh, but he did something that you you could rarely see. He
actually just altered reality. He just made the entire conservative Twitter Twitter sphere just go
something like this. It's like your head just went What did I just see? Did I really see this?
Now, forget about, you know, which which of these views you like the best. That's not even
the story. Forget about whether you think Candace has everything right or everything wrong. That's
not the story. The story is that that these two people that shouldn't be in the same conversation
in seven words, Kanye just changed that and he just freed a lot of people from a mental prison.
Kanye in seven words unlocked a mental prison and is bringing you to the golden age. I look
back on that and I find that clip to be really fascinating. And here's what I would tell you that
happened thereafter in short order because it was definitely something I believe and I am saying
this retrospectively that from that moment onward Charlie and I were assigned handlers. Okay, this
is an expression that Kanye used to say have a handler. I thought that he was just saying that. I
thought that he was referring to just Hollywood. I now very much believe that I have had handlers um
since 2018 and that things were done intentionally to pull me and Charlie apart. Now, I'm going
to tell you how I remember it in no particular order. Okay. I tweeted back at Kanye and I said,
"Please take a meeting with us." And uh before I could hear directly from Kanye's people, I heard
from David Horowitz of the of Freedom Center. He's the one that first invited me when I was going
viral on YouTube to speak at his conference. You should also know that uh he is the father to
Andre and Harowitz, the one that BB Netanyahu is insisting should or the stepfather to. Um he wants
Andre and Harowitz to be a part of this group that buys Tik Tok because and this is relevant. They
think it's important for warfare, psychological warfare in the future. It's relevant. Um he
was very nice in his message to me. said, "Oh, my son knows Kanye and I would like to facilitate
that meeting." Suddenly, they get Eric Weinstein involved and he reaches out and he pretends that
he wants to be a friend to me. He's a bad person. I can tell you that right away. And I learned
that very quickly. But at the time, Charlie and I a we were pro- Israel. That's I think kind of
relevant. And we were just so amazed by the tweet that we thought all of these people, like this was
just our moment, as in they really did just want to help. Another player in this was Rick Rubin.
Yeah, the big music industry. Rick Rubin also got into the mix and wanted to facilitate certain
meetings. I took it again as a sign of help on the Turning Point USA side. Tyler Ber, who I could do
a whole episode on, it's actually he's he's more so relevant that I I can't fit him into just one
episode. He was with the only person that was with Charlie before. He introduced him to every every
person that Charlie knows. Uh he starts hiring a bunch of people, telling Charlie that we need to
hire bigger and more professional money raisers, PR people like Andrew Kovette, you name it. And
it feels like at every moment there were forces that were trying to tell us this is not allowed to
happen. Kanye's handlers are telling him, Kanye's got a team of people telling him he's not allowed
to be involved in politics. And he's getting angrier and he's getting angrier about that. This
is in the time of Kim Kardashian and Kanye. She wanted nothing to do with it. Okay? And I've been
to their house and political friends are telling Charlie and I don't get involved with Kanye cuz
he's crazy. You guys are on a trajectory. Don't speak to Kanye. It's it's going to backfire in
your face. And I'm like, no, we dreamed this. We want him to be a part of Blexit. Like this is
exactly what we wanted. At the exact same time, I felt and you have heard the story very many
times. Charlie has told it. I have told it. Out of nowhere, I got this spiritual pull that I needed
to go to the UK. Charlie and I had no business in the UK at all. There was no reason for us to go
to the UK. There was nothing happening in the UK. I had the messages. I'm like, Charlie, we should
go to the UK. I don't know why. I just I just I'm getting the vibe we need to go to the UK. We need
to go to the UK. We need to go to the UN to the UK. Like, we got to go to London. and um we did uh
in the future. But first uh dealing with this sort of pressure cooker that kept happening between
Kanye, me, Charlie, uh it was in October after Kanye had helped me to start designing the logo
for Blexit that Kanye's pressure cooker got too hot. And basically they told him that he would
lose everything, his marriage, this that if he didn't abstain from politics after he notoriously
went to the White House in the MAGA hat and he needed to distance from us and of course Blexit
and he cracked. You guys remember this headline? I'm taking you back 2018. Kanye West distances
himself from Blexit and Trump. He says, "I've been used to spread messages." Kanye never wrote this
statement. one of his handlers did, but he said, "My eyes are now wide open and I now realize that
I've been used to spread messages that I don't believe in. I am distancing myself from politics
and completely focusing on being creative." Now, uh that was not the most honest uh interpretation
of things and I reflect on it and I'm so grateful that I called Mike Cernovich and I said like, "Why
is Kanye doing this? Why is he saying this? I have pictures of him standing over the guy directing
him on what he thought was cool with the logo. like should I drop them? And Cernovich gave me
really sound advice and said don't. You have no idea what he's going through. And I'm grateful to
Cernovich for that because I now know what Kanye was going through and what that pressure is like
and when they come for your family and come for everything. And it's like all you have to do is
disavow this or disavow that and everything will go back to normal. Uh so yeah, Kanye, I totally
understand it. It makes perfect sense to me why you had to say that. Anyways, I I think I was
saved and I look back and I think I was saved by this weird poll that I had to go to the UK. It was
now I realize an unexpected anomaly. My husband, how I met him, this unplanned trip on nobody's
calendar. Nobody was setting it up. I just like Charlie get a meeting with whoever. Make anything
happen. I need to be in the UK. I just think that like something good will happen if we go to the
UK. And it's kind of beautiful that the person that Charlie reached out to and said, "Can you put
together just any place for Candace I to speak at was John and Arena Mappen, the lone donors who
wrote that beautiful letter that has impacted the world, like true friends of Charlie who stood
up and said that what Turning Point USA is doing is wrong." Uh, so yeah, we had an event and
obviously I first laid eyes on my husband and I have told you guys the truth. I looked at him and
everyone's like, "Why'd you get engaged after 18 days?" I have never, it's inexplicable. I looked
at him and I felt like I had already known him and it felt exactly like seeing a sigh of relief.
Like it felt like a sigh of relief. I was like, "This is I need to go with him." Two months later
and with that event in London far behind us. So that was in December that I met my husband uh
that I convinced Charlie, took his credit card and booked the flights. John Nina made the
event happen. Two months later in February, something really strange happened. Someone,
and I believe it was someone at BuzzFeed, cut a clip of a video from the Q&A portion of that
UK event. This is again over two months later, and they stripped the question that was asked of
me. You'll remember the scandal. What I'm about to tell you about this is crazy. Again, I was green,
so I didn't understand why suddenly they were sharing a clip and they were saying that I was
justifying Hitler, Adolf Hitler killing Jews. The person asked me, Candace, you describe yourself
as a nationalist. That is sometimes a dirty term because people don't like the words nationalism.
And I answered by saying, well, that's cuz they wrongly attribute it to Adolf Hitler and he
wasn't a nationalist. I didn't even mention Jews at all. I'm going to actually show you what
I said and I was standing next to Charlie when I said it which is relevant. Take a listen. Yeah, I
agree. I I actually don't have any problems at all with the word nationalism. I think that it gets uh
the definition gets poisoned um by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I what
I don't want. So when you think about whenever we say nationalism, the first thing people think
about in at least in America is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist. But if Hitler
just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is is
that he wanted he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be
German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look a different way. That's not to me that's
not nationalism. Um so in thinking about how it could go bad down the line, I don't really I don't
really have an issue with nationalism. I really don't. I think that it's okay. it's important to
retain your your country's identity and to make sure um that what's happening here, which I think
is incredibly worrisome in terms of the just the the decrease in the birth rate that we're seeing
um in the UK, is what you kind of want to avoid. So, I'm not I don't have anything problem I have
no problems with nationalism. It's globalism that I try to avoid. Now, I know that these online
campaigns are inorganic and that what actually happened was this was a hit. This was a hit. They
pulled the clip and then a bunch of people were articles saying that I supported Adolf Hitler. Uh,
and that I said if Hitler had just wanted to make Germany great again, then okay, fine. That's fine.
No context again. And it was like a severe cancel culture attack saying that I supported Jews being
killed in the Holocaust. It was insane. Again, Charlie and I were very new and this was very
scary. We were kind of coming upon a high point and going, "Why do people want to destroy us?
We don't know what this is." And uh at the same time the Simon Whisinthal Center and this is
again another interesting piece of this put me like issued a statement against my comments. Simon
Weisenthal Center were like the official Holocaust people and this girl is obviously supporting
Hitler. It was heavy. It was it was so heavy. And I laugh in retrospect because I thought it was
all real. I didn't realize this was a a matrix of people who wanted to pull me and Charlie apart.
That's what they wanted to do. They wanted to put pressure on him. So donors would pressure
him and be like, "Hey, she's supporting Hitler. Such a bad look." Um, and then they would find me
broken and scared and upset and going, "I don't know how Jewish people could think that I would
support Hitler." And that's what I was saying. And this amazing thing happened that despite this,
that the hand that came out to me and offered me a job was Prageru. Uh, Prageru offered me a job.
This is early 2019. And it was like, "Hey, like we know that you don't believe these things." And at
the time, I thought they were just being friends. I don't know what to think anymore. Uh Marissa
Strait, the CEO, has never shied from telling people that she is, you know, in the IDF. She
works she worked intelligence in the IDF, right, in Israel. And I was I took the job with them and
Charlie and I still climbed together, but we were also working apart at the same time. We kept
doing the campuses and the campus tours, but I was officially working for Prageru. And one of the
first things that happened almost the way it feels to me was like we can save you but here's what
you have to do was Marissa took me to the Simon Whisinthaw Center. And again I was so grateful. I
was like who do I have to say sorry to to so that they know that I don't hate Jews. This is what
happened. I'm telling you this is what happened in 2019. And there was like some chief rabbi looking
character and him and her spoke in Hebrew. I didn't understand a word of what was said in front
of me. And then we left and everything was fine. My reputation was restored temporarily. Throughout
that time frame thereafter, I'm doing my show. I think my first episode with uh Prageru was in
March. Uh Charlie still climbing. Turning Point USA, as you know, became a behemoth. I remember
speaking at their conferences and saying that they were now running like a military operation.
It was so efficient on time. It was tactical. And I did not realize at that time how preient that
thought would become because as you guys know in my old age I have grown increasingly interested
in genealogy because you really start to recognize certain patterns when you look into who people's
fathers are, who their grandfathers were, who their great-grandfathers were. And the one thing
that has shocked me about Charlie and Turning Point USA is just how many military characters
were surrounding him even in September 10th. People that were in the hospital, right? Let's
just, you know, take a look at the chart that we have put together and this is in an early phase,
but it's interesting at the very least. Okay, we've got Frank Turk and um Frank Turk, if we
want to go through this, we got Andrew Kovette, Rob McCoy, Mikey McCoy, Tyler Boyer. Uh let's go
through let's start with Frank Turk if if we have that card. And Frank Turk again has been honest
former officer in the US Navy. And then he turned to Christian apologetics. He has two sons that
are in the military fly planes as well as one of his son's spouses that's in the military. Again,
he's never lied about this. Um Andrew Kovette, by the way, if you don't know, I didn't know.
I don't think Charlie knew. Certainly not when Tyler brought him or when he got hired. His
brother, Captain Kurt Kovvet, is in the military. His cousin, Captain Robert Kovvet, is high up
in the military. So, that's interesting. Um, very interesting to me at least because I just
am like, "Oh, that's kind of something I was not aware of. I thought he was just a PR guy, someone
that was working PR and was found and things, you know, went forward." Obviously, Rob McCoy, another
pastor, but a pastor with a very strong military background. Pastor Rob McCoy, his father was the
naval captain, was a naval captain, Roy Edgar McCoy, but also, and this is kind of shocking, his
father was also the assistant chief of staff for psychological warfare in the Navy. Psychological
warfare. This is the name of the game. And that um trajectory is increasingly interesting to me.
I think we have this clip from an investigative journalist named uh George Webb who speaks a
little bit further about Rob. And obviously this is Mikey McCoyy's family. Take a listen. McCoy
does have this strange military background. He does have this strange seemingly uh putting his
son in there and guiding the hand uh for this new apostolic revival that he is a NAR person. He
is kind of the NAR push for Charlie. Charlie was meeting with NAR. NAR were were the $25 million
and above donors in the from the Christian right. The Ziklag was the name of the organization. So
all that's correct. That's correct information. in what happened in my life after that was I went
from Prager U and you got a pastor you know from the military two pastors from the military
there I'm telling you Marissa straight military I then went to obviously the Daily Wire and the
president at the time of the Daily Wire was also a naval intelligence officer who decided to become
a pastor that was John Lewis and I'm like actually in retrospect what are the chances is that we just
have so many military people that are in media. How organic is this? Who's the biggest person on
YouTube? Right. I I just got interested. I started asking questions like, is are we in a military
simulation? Mr. Beast, both of his parents high up in the military. Do you think he really was
just getting trillions and gazillions of views because people wanted to see somebody count
to a million or is that interesting? But also it might be relevant that his family's military
like pie up in the military everywhere I looked every time I was like well this person you know I
got interested even in Llaya Rose right Catholic does this whole uh speaks about and she's always
been very lovely to me speaks about the pro-life movement and converted to Catholicism and got
a story there I met her through Marissa uh kind of the same people funding both And it was kind
of interesting like when I would see Laya kind of jump on the attacking the Christ is king or
trying to rationalize why we shouldn't say Christ is king all the time and she was like the lone
Catholic that was doing that and I then got super interested in her when she um messaged me about
Andrew Tate and she had someone on her show that was Andrew Tate's one of the accusers lawyers and
I was like this is nothing to do with the pro-life movement. What are you doing? I asked her and
she's like, "Well," and that woman then attacked me and Tucker Carlson. I said, "That's weird.
Like, that's kind of random. You're supposed to be the pro-life person and you're talking
about And you're talking to Andrew Kovette's uh of part the party to that lawsuit. You're
talking to her lawyer. Why on your show? Why are you the first show she would pick? Why doesn't
she go on like CNN or Fox News?" And I looked and of course, yeah, you got military military all
over that background. And I'm going, "Is anything not military?" looking at Barry Weiss and looking
into her grandfather and there's a story that's just incredible. A bomb thrown on uh at his house
in I think it's in Philly or somewhere. Maybe it's Pittsburgh and that's related to the casinos. I
mean, the whole thing starts getting really crazy when you realize everyone's somehow attached to
Rathon, right? Mr. Beast, they're all attached to Rathon in one way or the other. And I find that
to be interesting. And there's more. By the way, I'm in the early days of research here and there's
a lot more I'm going to present pre present to you guys, but I think we can all acknowledge that
we were lied to about the 306, right? I know for a fact Charlie's neck was not destroyed.
Certainly was not destroyed. And if I'm lying, sue me for defamation and you'll learn exactly
how I know that. This is what makes Andrew Kovet's tweet explaining the conversation with the surgeon
especially interesting. you remember he's like, "Oh." And the surgeon said, "Well, I would have
taken down a moose." And but Charlie's neck, he's the man to steal. And people rightly
said, "That's not the job of the surgeon. That's kind of the job of forensics to say that.
The medical examiner would be the right person to say that." By the way, who was the me the
the medical examiner? Who were the doctors? And any chance they were military? Any chance
they were military? I'm just wondering. Um, and here's what I discovered preliminarily. The
answer's yes. Okay. Uh, the doctor who worked on Charlie was Dr. Lee Troder. Uh, and regarding
Dr. Lee Troder, he did his residency on the Air Force base, right? He completed a residency at the
Keesler Air Force Medical Center in Mississippi, Mississippi. I think he actually might be
in the Air Force from what I'm looking at. can't confirm that entirely but I there's a
person who matches his name age description living where he's living uh who is actually in the
air force and he also for a fact is a pilot so it would track that he was in the military that's
interesting the medical examiner Dr. Gre Smith Amaro who that would be the appropriate person to
have had the conversation with also someone that uh in my dream Charlie told me I should look
into. She's a major in the army. She's also from a major corporation. Her she's from the
Ericson family. The Ericson Boyd Corporation is her family. She tells people that she is a
direct descendant of Leaf Ericson. This brings us into like Swedish Freemason stuff. Okay. And
I'm sure like I'm certain she's an Ericson. Like a thousand% certain that she is an Ericson. She's
also now a lesbian. And I'm thinking why why was she just made a major in the army? Why did they
need this woman in? Why were people researching these doctors and this specific medical examiner?
What the heck is going on? There's more. There's a lot more that I haven't covered, but I'm painting
a picture here for you. Okay. Uh I think the military industrial complex that Eisenhower
forewarned of the military-industrial complex that shot JFK to maintain power has created a
veneer um of reality for us and it is not so right. We are under a veil. I think that these
corporations uh people that are put the head of these corporations and we're told that they're
geniuses or they're just so successful like Mr. Beast. Uh these are these are military operations
is what I'm signaling to you guys. So be aware of that. I think this military-industrial complex has
had a lot of actors. We have militaryra actors, some of which I think were there when Charlie
got shot. Weird weird behavior from people. The first people to get booked. It was hard to
find a student that spoke to a mainstream media uh news organization on that day. Something's not
right. There are too many military players that were surrounding Charlie and they weren't there
before 2018. They weren't there until forces were trying to pull me and Charlie apart. And I had
it on my heart to share this with you because I think it will help you when you start to look at
things and assess people and they tell you he's a genius. Then you learn that they have, I don't
know, a contract with the Department of Defense. He might just be a military great actor meant to
lead a company. Because if we all looked up and realized the military owns everything and maybe
has owned everything and controlled everything since they shot JFK, well, that wouldn't be a good
thing for us to know, right? And we don't know it. We don't know know it, but I kind of know. Lastly,
there is something interesting that I was kind of hesitant to speak about, but I I'm going to. I was
hesitant to speak about about it because I didn't want it to like lead to a thousand conspiracy
theories that are just wrong. But I'm interested and I again want to caution you. Don't spin out
of control. I'm actually want some information because there could be something that I'm missing.
I am not from the medical field. Okay. But on September 10th thereafter, as I've been doing
these episodes, we had received a flurry of tips from people telling us that Charlie was not
at Tempenogos Hospital but was at UVU hospital. And I was like, remember there's this whole thing
like why did they go to Temponogos? Temponogos was like a level three trauma center when the closer
one was UVU. We never really understood why the ambulance wasn't there when it was required by
law. He goes into this car. We don't really know. We don't when I say we don't know as in we don't
we have no footage or any indication of the drive or the arrival at Tempenogos. And I thought it
was weird that we had people that were saying I was downstairs at UVU when Charlie was brought
in and uh I am telling you he was definitely at his hospital. Somebody else said to me, "I was
receiving treatment uh I don't know if it was cancer treatment uh downstairs or upstairs and
we knew he was at this hospital and then somebody came in and announced that Charlie had just died
upstairs." It was very strange and I was like, "Okay, that's just people get confused. They may
have heard from maybe a nurse texted a nurse. There's a lot of ways that could have happened."
But then we received an email from somebody in the medical staff at UVU saying I'm certain that
he was here and I have a medical file uh that we and the text that we received at 2008 p.m. saying
that we're not allowed to touch the medical file. And here was the entry in the UVU system for
Charlie Kirk. It had his right birthday. It had his age. It had an MRN number. And then this
individual shared the internal message that went out telling them that they're not allowed to touch
the file. Here it is. Hi all. There was a media event that took place today that led to a trauma
patient. Due to the nature of the situation, the only individuals who will be allowed in the
chart will be Deborah and myself. No one else is allowed to hover or open the chart. Jacob blank.
Deb and I will be doing the log tomorrow. Thanks. and let me know if you have any questions. Now,
in my mind, I said maybe the reason for this is these two medical hospitals speak to each other.
You know, like if you go to CVS and you pick up a prescription at one location, the other location
knows that it happens. I've confirmed that doesn't seem to be the circumstance. Um it's a it's
possible that it could be because maybe Dr. Lee Troder, which I have heard works at both
limited surgeons going back and forth. That's somehow it created a file, but I'd like to
know definitively what the answer for that is, why he also has a file at UVU, why there seem
to be so much confusion. Again, we don't need to go crazy with conspiracy theories. There
could be a logical answer. I have not stumbled upon it yet. And so, medical community, feel
free to email us at more tips@candowens.com. Okay, we're going to take a brief break before
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Utah Valley Hospital. UVU is obviously on my mind because it is the university. It is Utah Valley
Hospital is where that file was and that person and some people that I confirmed with said that
their two systems don't speak together. So, but there could be another logical explanation. Maybe
someone called ahead and then they made a decision because of traffic to go somewhere else. But I
would like to get to the bottom of that. Okay, let's jump in here to TPUSA's response to the
Mikey McQue. Actually, it wasn't really a response because to be fair, they did their episode before
my episode went out. Charlie Kirk's show is before my show is, but it was their response to the Mikey
McCoy video going viral. So, not a response to me, but rather a response to the people who had
pulled this out um who had discovered this over the weekend. So, like James Lee, Ian Carol,
Sam Parker. And here is what Andrew Kovette had to say. is going to tell us that Mikey was told to do
this in the event of this type of an emergency by, you guessed it, Charlie Kirk. Take a listen.
Here's the last thing I want to make a point of. And Charlie, cuz Charlie had given me
similar instructions along the years. Said, "If anything ever happens to me, you call Erica.
That is" And he drilled that into Mikey's brain so that when this moment of trauma happened
that he turned around and he knew how to do it. And by the way, I just last thing because
this is part of the the video allegations here is that they think they they're alleging that he
was on the phone immediately. He was not. He was taking social videos which he would send to our
group chat which we would then put on Charlie social while the event was happening so you could
see like the crowd come in or his interactions. And we were only two questions into this event.
So he was still getting it out to all the chats he needed to do which he did at every event. He
turns around and it was so blaringly loud. I'm told you would know this better than this is what
I'm told. It was so blaringly loud and he was so shell shocked he put his fingers in his ear but
his phone was still in his hand. He walks away and he's I mean not even not even walk I want
because people are are talking about that the way it was is we had a cordoned off area with you
know rates so you could had controlled access all the people when this happens they all get the
idea we should leave before we are shot and so there's a little narrow gap that I think people
it's not really walking it's that everyone has to slow up to get through this little narrow choke
point to get out of the area. Okay. elsewhere they say that so basically he wasn't on the phone he
was holding his ears. Okay. And then once he got out into the distance beyond Charlie but beyond
the car that Charlie would be carried into is when he called Erica first and then his father.
That's what they tell us. Now in regards to him saying that Mikey was taking social videos.
I can tell you it tracks that Mikey would be taking videos behind like you know when Charlie
first comes out of the event he's throwing hats. that tracks that def absolutely is a thing at
Turning Point USA. You follow the person to get behind the scenes. I would have Savannah do
this. Before Mikey McCoy did this, it was Sarah Schmackenberger. Uh, and they do that. They
like the behind-the-scenes reactions. But in this particular video, he's not standing where you
can get a view of Charlie asking a question. So, this this part is not tracking. Okay? Mikey is not
standing to the side of Charlie. He is behind. And so if you're saying what earlier we're supposed to
see him, the best place to stand if you're gonna get a video of Charlie asking a question is going
to be in a place where you can see both Charlie and the person asking the question and that's just
not where he's standing. So that excuse doesn't make sense to me. Now maybe he's saying he was in
Mikey was there when he was throwing hats out and he was there trying to send videos thereafter
once things got started. That's all possible. I don't know. regarding him putting his hands up
to his ear. It does sound completely plausible to me that if you first hear a gunshot, you're going
to naturally do this, right? That kind of makes sense. You're going to go, "What? You know, what
was that?" Maybe. And then I think typically you'd get down. And the issue that I have is he just I
never see him take that phone down. Maybe he does, right? Maybe he does. We don't know for a fact.
And so we should be clear that it doesn't look to me like he's just covering his ears there, but
maybe he is. What I will say is that it would be unlikely that you would keep holding your
ears until you get all the way out and that you wouldn't duck down. And regarding Charlie always
told us to call Erica if anything happens. Yeah, that's kind of common sense. That's not exactly
like, hey, if I get shot in the throat, don't help me and call Erica. I think obviously if I that's
called like first of kin, right? First of kin. If something happens to me, call George. Something
happens to George, call Candace. That is almost in the sphere of common sense. So I believe that.
I don't believe that Charlie said, "If I get shot, don't help me calmly walk away and call Erica
first." Like I think Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Like I said, we have nothing to go off
of. I think it's curious that we're hearing this from Andrew and we're not hearing it from Mikey
McCoy. It's very easy to dispel any in internet innuendo. You don't actually have to jump into ad
homin attacks. The first thing I would have done, just like I did when I was being accused of
colluding on the Blake Lively story when I got drafted into that lawsuit and they thought that
I was working with Blake Lively's um I'm sorry, working with Justin Baldon's team is I quite
literally live subpoenaed myself, held up my phone, I typed in Blake Lively, and I showed you
the only two times that I had ever texted about her in my phone at all to demonstrate that there
was no collusion happening and no and compelled me to speak. It's just it's it was a ridiculous
thing for her to say. I laughed at it. I wasn't upset about it, right? And I said, "This is crazy.
Here is my phone. I'm live opening it for you." Why? Why not do that? Doesn't that seem easier to
like the easier thing if you feel that pressure is to just say, "I'm going to dispel this." It's
kind of like the Breijit Mcronone thing. Hey, here's a couple of pictures of me raising my
kids. 30 years was missing because I I really was just camera shy. I'm just going to show you
the pictures. It's so much easier rather than fighting a tip fortat war to just share the truth.
People are uncomfortable. It's gonna get even more interesting though because Alex Marlo, who
runs Breitbart News, was their guest for the day on the show and he then kind of shifts gears and
pretends like we're all drug addicts, right? We're just high on conspiracy theory. Take a listen.
There's a suggestion online that Mikey, Charlie's chief of staff, one of the most sincere people
you'd ever meet, brilliant, Christian, kind, everyone who's he ever met in his entire life,
couldn't hurt a fly, was part of a conspiracy to murder Charlie. That's what's going on. It's it's
vile. It's it's utterly vile. Who would do this? What type of individual just to create content,
do we think, or is there some What's the I don't know. I think a lot of this mindset just sort
of fuels itself. Uh it's it's sort of addictive in the same way a lot of social media stuff is
addictive or in the way like uh honestly something like pornography is addictive or something like
they get really they they almost get a they get a high off of like the idea of like that they're
doing something that's daring or out there. So that right there is a psychological operation.
And because we're reading about Sigman Freud, they diagnose you. When they don't want you to
look into something, they diagnose you. So right there, he's going, "Oh my, are they just doing
this to create content? Are these people akin to drug addicts are just high on the conspiracy
theory? They're gaslighting you and then they're diagnosing you." So we all just watched Charlie
die. We are having a perfectly rational response to watching that and then watching the strange
reaction of his peers or the non-reaction of his peers who just want our money, right? and are are
are asking for Susie Wilds. I this is the craziest part of this whole thing for me. It was like
why is Susie Wilds? I don't know. It just feels really weird like a weird pick for her to eulogize
him. Uh but yeah, and and not maybe his parents maybe they didn't want to. Actually, they were
quite private people. But all this happens and we're having a natural reaction which is we feel
alarmed. We feel suspicious. And they're going, "Oh, you're a drug addict. You're you know what?
I get it. You kind of like porn. You're into that. you're into the porn thing. It's Oh, I get it. No,
I I get it. If If you want to watch porn all day, you want to watch porn all day. That, my friends,
is a psychological operation. Steal yourselves against this. Yes, we are asking questions. No,
we are not akin to people that watch pornography all day. And no, we're not getting high on it.
We're going to get high when we find out what actually happened. That's going to feel like
a high to us, right? That's going to be that natural rush that we feel when we've actually
solved what happened to Charlie Kirk. So, let me let me answer you back on that. Alex Marlo, be
careful cuz my dear genealogy, you don't want me doing that. Careful. Then we have Frank Turk, who
engages in this same sort of act of psychological manipulation in my viewpoint. And he defends Mikey
McCoy. I think this is on his own show. Here's what he had to say. There's a difference between
a possibility and evidence for a possibility. You can speculate on anything you want, but
unless you have evidence, shut up, okay? Because all you're doing is causing dissension among the
brothers, which is something the Lord hates. If you want to present a possibility and say, "Well,
this could be true." Okay, it could be true. But don't accuse people for doing something for which
you have no evidence. I heard today, I guess I hadn't seen it myself, but I heard today she was
judging people who um didn't act the right way. I don't know if anyone did anyone seen this video.
She did. They she according to Candace Owens, these people did not act the right way after
Charlie's death. Like my friend Mikey McCoy, the brilliant 24year-old who at the time when
Charlie was shot was 23 and was a hero that day. He apparently didn't act the right way according
to Candace Owens. He didn't act normal. News flash, there is no normal when you're in shock.
There is no normal when an abnormal thing happens. Some people are going to act one way, other people
going to act another way. You don't know how you would react. I didn't know how I would react. The
only reason that I did what I did is because I thought about it beforehand. I was afraid somebody
would take a shot at Charlie. And I thought to myself, if it does happen, what am I going to do?
Decide now. And what I want what I wanted to do would do anything I could to save him. Couple
of psychological manipulations happening there. First is like the academic one where he's trying
to present himself as an authority on a topic and saying to you like there is no, you know, no,
everybody can do anything when shots are fired. We don't know when you're shocked by shots being
fired. Some people just, you know, start doing the hokeyp pokey. You know, not do we I mean, look,
some people literally they hear shots fired. They get on the table and they start dancing and
singing and saying, "Shoot me. Shoot me." You know, like George Zin. That's Hey, we don't know.
He was in shock. George Zen, I did it. I did it. That's a normal, hey, we don't know, right? Like,
we do actually know that we all have a baseline response to danger. You run towards it because you
want to rescue people. These are the heroes in the story. Or you run away from it. That's a baseline.
Or you freeze. You literally just are paralyzed by fear kind of. Maybe I'd say three baseline
things that you can expect, right? I don't know what to do. I'm running away from this. Or I
know exactly what to do and I need to rescue other people. So don't do that. The other thing he's
doing, of course, is the biblical manipulation, which seems to me to to me to be that there has
been a military infiltration into the churches. I think we've covered that enough this year. I've
termed that operation mocking pastor where they just try to find some scripture and justify it.
And he's a pastor. He's earned trust. He's saying she's judging people. The Lord says this. The Lord
says she shouldn't look into the truck. The Lord says she shouldn't ask questions. The Lord thinks
that people should just shut up. Right? That to me is like the sickest form of manipulation. The
sickest form of manipulation is to try to present it uh via the lens of what God would want. You
don't have to do that. Just say what you think, say what you mean, and try to manipulate people
the old school way. Okay? Now, uh speaking of psychological operations, the one safe place is
my book club. Okay? I'm like we're real like, you know, we're ratchet in the in the book club. I say
whatever because I know people that are in there, they're ready for it. I'm throwing to them. We're
talking about frankism. We're talking about the Cabala. talking about the infiltration uh into the
churches intentional as an aspect of Frank of the Frankus movement and we go pretty quickly we're
reading these books we're learning about Sigman Freud right it starts with Sigman Freud it ends
with operation mocking pastor or that's where we are at right now and I have so much fun and what
happened was Zionist actually purchased uh the book club uh passed the book club and they then
started sharing clips and watermarked it as if it was their own content to make money off of this
guy, Milk Bar TV. I was like, "You're getting hit with a copyright strike, my friend." Okay, proud
of myself. Hit him with a copyright strike. Cuz he literally put Milk Bark TV content on the corner.
He watermarked my content to then smear me, right? If you're going to watermark my content, at
least don't smear me and call me a crazy person. And what they were upset with was that I said that
it was ridiculous. And I meant it, by the way. So shocking. I say what I mean. that we're supposed
to think that Charlie is being honored because he got a Charlie Kirk day in October. I will feel
Charlie is honored. Okay, when we figure out who killed him because I'm not buying him a lone
shooter shooter thing. So I said, "Miss me with the whole holiday theater. Tell me who actually
killed him." And it's a typical federal maneuver, by the way, to kill someone like Martin Luther
King or JFK and then they get a holiday. They get a boulevard. That's what I said. And I would have
said it off the book club, but they clipped it. try to take it out of context, but it's not 2018
and I am not new to what you guys do. These out of context clips are just not hitting the same. The
people are awake. They know what's happening here. They see what you're doing. And then he cried, by
the way, when he got hit with a copyright strike. I couldn't believe it. Talk about uh literally
crying while you strike someone else. Like, you stole my content. You got caught stealing my
content and trying to make money off of it. And then he he tweets, "Can Owens hit my account."
This is Nathan Livingstone. I tried to steal and she didn't let me. Why is she trying to silence
me? Why won't she let me steal? You can pay for a pass. You can watch it, but you can't steal
my content. Anyways, guys, it's amazing. Like, I think it's actually amazing that uh our book
club got infiltrated. We're going to have to be more careful in there. Just kidding. I won't be I
will be just as ratchet as I always am in the book club. Lastly, we got to get to Bridget Mcronone
because I think everybody now is really tired of uh her lying about having been born with a penis.
Not my fault. Okay, if you have not, by the way, watched the Becoming Breit series and you are
appreciating what I'm doing with the Charlie Kirk series, go back and watch it. Same thing. All
I did was tell the truth and people were upset and then the series went viral. I mean, by people, I
mean the media was upset. The series went viral. There's no way you can watch the series and come
out of it thinking that Breijit was born a female. You can't just disappear 30 years of your life.
You can't just say, "I didn't take a picture for 30 years." It doesn't work like that. Okay? Such
an easy, lowest baby bar ever to set to dispel the rumors. Hey, can we get some pictures from
your wedding day? Like, you know, you with your family and not just pictures that have been given
to us from a woman who quite literally is facing charges for falsifying pictures. Like, we've got
like four photos of the whole life. And yeah, I'm being sued because that's the next logical
step. You sue people for telling the truth to scare them. And it's all related, by the way.
We're talking about who Breijgit actually is, the families that Breit is related to, the
fact that Emanuel Mcronone is in fact just like the state of Israel, a Rothschild's creation,
talking about the military-industrial complex, and talking about the Cabala. Cabala uh very
much is the reason for this push in culture for transgenderism. We'll get more into that in the
book club which gets a bit more theological. But that's a very important series. And basically
what happened this week is people who hadn't even watched the series were like okay I've seen
enough. Breit Mcronone crying because she doesn't know she Brit doesn't know why. But on the tax
forms, the French tax forms um Breijit is listed as Jean Michelle and listed as a male. So they're
trying to lie and tell the public that they think this was done by a team of hackers. Okay. hackers
who they haven't arrested. Okay. Who what hacker year by this happened years ago, right? It was
actually someone who worked for her who said, "Oh, this is weird. Like, I'm in your account right
now." And you're registered as a dude named Jean Michelle. Mr. Bre was the guy who did this, a a
government official. He made the re revelation and he recounted how what Breijit was stunned to learn
that her legal name had been quote unquote changed when she logged into her personal tax account.
We were completely surprised, said Mr. Burme. Oh, okay. So, we're supposed to believe the
government, which Breie is controlling, by the way. Uh, this person Burme worked with
has worked with the couple since 2017. And we're supposed to believe that a hacker was going
to risk hacking the president of France. Okay, the government had to be the government decided
to hack the government and to only change the name. Like if you're going to risk that kind of
an offense, that's sort of a criminal offense. At least take the money. At least say and they wiped
out $2 million. It was a crazy hack. A little joke at the end of it, but no. just wanted to hack and
risk criminal charges to change your name to Jean Michichelle way back when when this wasn't even a
viral story. I mean, completely ridiculous. Okay, you were born Jean Michichelle Trogau. You
transitioned and you've been put in this position of power and I don't know why they would
do this. You got away with um offending Emanuel when he was 14 years old. Sexual offense. Um, and
you went after I mean, he was a child in my view, in everyone's view, a 14-year-old kid. You got
like a 40-year-old adult that goes after him. And now you're pretending you're the victim. Okay,
a little bit crazy. We're getting tired of it. You can't just keep pretending everything is just
happening to you. Just present some pictures. Stop pretending that you're offering genetic evidence
in the court hearing against me. You're not even suing me for the claim that I said you were born
a male. You're suing me for the claim that I said you stole your sister's identity to transition.
That's what you're suing me over amongst very many other things that are ridiculous. And you've
never offered genetic evidence because you didn't even get to that stage of the hearing. We have
not gotten to any stage actually. It's like the back forth tit fortat changing the filings all
very preliminary. You're just doing the most in terms of PR trying to convince the world against
something that we recognize which is that you were born a male. Swimming come clean. Everybody
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