Candace Owens Exposes Overwhelming Evidence Manipulation in Charlie Kirk Assassination Trial

[00:01] All right, you guys. I am finally back.

[00:03] I am so happy to be back. Things tend to

[00:05] get a little crazy when I go away. Um, I

[00:08] have to tell you, when I jumped online

[00:10] and I saw all of the X-T trends, I

[00:13] wasn't exactly certain whether last week

[00:14] represented the preliminary trial of

[00:16] Tyler Robinson or Candace Owens, I mean,

[00:19] is everybody okay? What Why do I seem to

[00:23] have this sort of an effect on

[00:25] middle-aged men? Did you see this? This

[00:27] is real. These are those are my former

[00:30] employers, ladies and gentlemen. And

[00:32] ladies, can I just say that if your

[00:33] husband is striking poses in the mirror

[00:36] to look like Candace Owens, you have got

[00:38] to get him off of the internet. Anyway,

[00:41] can I just begin by saying the quiet

[00:43] part out loud. Please forgive me. I have

[00:45] to say it. Regarding the preliminary

[00:48] hearing, if you find yourself having to

[00:51] invite literal social media influencers

[00:55] into a courthouse, Erica, as in the

[00:58] actual job description of these human

[01:00] beings is to influence the masses about

[01:02] products or ideas. If you feel compelled

[01:06] to invite Benny Johnson, Department of

[01:09] War consultant Graham Allen, Brandon

[01:11] Tatum, people who you for for whatever

[01:14] reason, I'm not judging, did not choose

[01:16] to invite to Charlie's private funeral

[01:18] mass, but extended an invitation for

[01:20] them to come to the courthouse. The

[01:21] public may rightfully have some

[01:24] questions about your intent. Like right

[01:27] off the bat, that's an interesting move,

[01:29] Erica. Right. Benny Johnson came right

[01:32] out of the gate and said, "Erica asked

[01:34] me to be here." Okay. Really? Why?

[01:39] Why did Erica Kirk request your presence

[01:42] there? I I would have asked my cousins,

[01:45] my close friends, some people I went to

[01:47] high school with, some aunts and uncles

[01:50] that don't annoy me to be there, but

[01:51] influencers, I don't think so. It's

[01:53] giving I'm finally going to wear black,

[01:56] but I'm going to invite the glittery

[01:58] pants suit. You know what I mean? It

[02:00] still feels like a show. And you guys, I

[02:03] have to tell you, I'm getting old. I

[02:04] really am. And one thing that I have

[02:05] learned in my ripe old age is that the

[02:08] truth never requires a marketing

[02:10] campaign, there's just never a budget

[02:13] line item for truth. Of course, the

[02:16] single craziest piece of news over the

[02:18] last week and plausibly since the day

[02:20] that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, is

[02:22] that Ben Shapiro, who just makes

[02:24] everyone's skin crawl in a unique way,

[02:26] has offered up an unusual confession.

[02:29] But as Charlie Kirk, his enemy, lay

[02:32] dying and bleeding in the backseat of

[02:33] the car in route to the hospital, an

[02:35] approximate 7-minute ride, someone in

[02:37] Charlie's car, was providing Ben's

[02:39] security with updates over the phone

[02:42] while Charlie was in the car. That's

[02:45] massive. I I got to say, for those of us

[02:47] who believe that there is mounting

[02:49] evidence that Israel put a hit on

[02:51] Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro receiving

[02:53] updates while Charlie was dying is not

[02:55] going to go a long way in terms of

[02:57] clearing up any conspiracies. So,

[03:00] welcome back to Candace.

[03:09] Obviously

[03:18] not enough time in the day. We have so

[03:21] much to unpack this week. But you know

[03:23] what? Let's begin with a basic

[03:24] definition class. What does it mean to

[03:28] be overwhelmed? Like actually, let's

[03:31] just start with the root word.

[03:35] The verb towelm. Let's just pull a

[03:37] definition of that. To welm is a verb

[03:40] meaning to submerge, to engulf, or to

[03:43] completely cover something, often with a

[03:46] disastrous effect. It can also mean to

[03:48] overpower, or to overcome someone in

[03:50] thought or in feeling. So, right now,

[03:53] there is a seemingly infinite number of

[03:55] influencers on social media who watched

[03:57] the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing

[03:59] last week, and they reported back to us

[04:02] common folk that they they came away

[04:04] from it, and they were they were

[04:06] effectively drowning. They were

[04:07] submerged. They were engulfed. They were

[04:09] completely buried by the avalanche of

[04:12] undeniable evidence that Tyler Robinson

[04:16] murdered Charlie Kirk. I mean, they were

[04:17] they were so consumed that they all just

[04:20] began using that exact same adjective to

[04:22] express themselves. It is overwhelming.

[04:24] In fact, that has really been the key

[04:26] word since last year, right? It is the

[04:29] new wear a mask, save lives, six feet

[04:33] social distancing. The evidence against

[04:36] Tyler Robinson is overwhelming. Check

[04:39] out this little collage we put together

[04:40] of influencers who apparently uh need to

[04:43] pop a Xanax, right? The evidence is

[04:45] becoming overwhelming against Tyler

[04:47] Robinson. Thanks, Graham. Uh Steve D.

[04:49] The podcast's podcast and overwhelming

[04:53] evidence against Tyler Robinson.

[04:54] Paramount not so tactical. The evidence

[04:56] against Tyler Robinson is overwhelming.

[04:59] Gunther Eagleman, the evidence is

[05:00] overwhelming to say the least. kind of

[05:03] feels like he's saying the most. Uh Jack

[05:05] as uh is quoting Don Trump Jr. as having

[05:09] said the evidence against Tyler Robinson

[05:11] is overwhelming. That's just one page.

[05:14] Ali Beth Stucky uh Mike Lee, the

[05:17] evidence against Tyler Robinson could

[05:19] not be more overwhelming. He couldn't be

[05:21] more submerged. Uh Andrew Kovat, it's

[05:26] overwhelming against Robinson. Whoever

[05:28] Brent is, it's it's overwhelming. Susie,

[05:31] it's overwhelming. Clay Travis, it seems

[05:34] overwhelming.

[05:37] Some people even went so far as to

[05:40] report that it was actually the most

[05:42] overwhelming thing that they have ever

[05:44] witnessed in their entire lives in the

[05:46] courtroom. Uh, take it away, Josh

[05:49] Hammer, who happens to look like a bond

[05:51] villain. Take a listen.

[05:53] So to reiterate and and to summarize

[05:55] what we've already said, the evidence

[05:57] presented this week just during the

[05:59] pre-trial evidentiary hearings in the

[06:01] Charlie Kirk assassin trial, the trial

[06:03] of Tyler Robinson is the most

[06:05] overwhelming presentation that I have

[06:07] ever seen this early on during a legal

[06:09] proceeding in my entire life. My entire

[06:11] life,

[06:13] >> whoa, like his whole life. This is it.

[06:16] This is that moment.

[06:19] So I was in Spain and I said, "Let me

[06:20] buckle in. I too wish to experience that

[06:23] title wave of the exact same emotion

[06:25] being shared by all of these people.

[06:27] Apparently though me and Carrie Priene

[06:29] Bowler who I was traveling with, we

[06:31] watched an entirely different hearing. I

[06:33] don't know if it's different in Spain. I

[06:36] I had wondered is it different if you

[06:38] don't have the eyes of Zionists? Because

[06:40] I did notice a little correlary right

[06:42] amongst Zionists there is an increased

[06:45] sense of the whelming happening when it

[06:48] comes to Tyler Robinson. Well, let's not

[06:50] get ahead of ourselves, right? Let's

[06:51] begin with a refresher on what exactly

[06:53] the Fed narrative was going into this

[06:55] hearing. Like, let's you have to

[06:56] remember the stuff that they say because

[06:59] they very quickly move on from these

[07:00] things. Okay, foremost, we were told

[07:02] over and over again that Tyler Robinson

[07:04] was turned in by his own family and that

[07:07] he confessed to the crime at various

[07:09] points. Uh, we were told his mother

[07:11] recognized him on the news. His father

[07:13] turned him in uh and made they both made

[07:16] official police statements against their

[07:18] son. In fact, Bill Aman, King of the

[07:21] Hamptons, immediately pledged $1 million

[07:24] to Tyler Robinson's father, Matt

[07:26] Robinson. Someone should check in on

[07:28] that $1 million. By the way, uh he

[07:30] pledged that for the brave act of Matt

[07:32] Robinson having turned in his son.

[07:35] Anyways, uh here's a little clip of

[07:37] people telling us that that's what

[07:39] happened and we were going to find that

[07:41] out.

[07:42] I was having a discussion about how I

[07:45] you know just as a father how incredible

[07:48] it was to see and just just just

[07:52] you know almost unbelievable it was to

[07:54] see Tyler Robinson's parents play a role

[07:57] in turning over their son Tyler Robinson

[08:01] and the video and footage of him were

[08:02] identified also by his parents as being

[08:04] Tyler Robinson.

[08:06] >> Tyler Robinson's parents see that photo

[08:08] and think that looks like Tyler. They

[08:11] begin asking him things like, "Where is

[08:13] your I believe it was his grandfather's

[08:14] gun?"

[08:15] >> They start asking him this. Tyler

[08:17] Robinson starts talking like he might

[08:19] kill himself. They get a friend of the

[08:21] family to sit down with him. He actually

[08:24] he admits that it's him. They get him to

[08:26] drive up to Orm and turn himself in. His

[08:29] parents helped him turn him in.

[08:31] >> They say no face, no case. No, his

[08:33] parents said, "That's my son." And then

[08:35] he turned himself in taking

[08:36] responsibility for shooting Charlie

[08:38] Kirk.

[08:38] >> So, we have three confessions here. one

[08:40] to his parents, one to his roommate, and

[08:41] one on Discord. Those local sheriffs

[08:43] were the ones who took the first

[08:45] statements from Robinson's parents,

[08:46] which identified Robinson as the shooter

[08:48] and provided the motive. By the way,

[08:51] Ally, do you think that the parents of

[08:54] Tyler Robinson, if he was not guilty,

[08:58] would be making a stink about this if he

[09:01] was innocent?

[09:03] Have you heard a word from the parents?

[09:06] No. The parents were the ones that

[09:07] turned them in.

[09:10] turned him in, made statements against

[09:12] their son. Okay. The Fed narrative also

[09:16] stipulated that this was the left,

[09:18] right? We were supposed to instantly go

[09:20] to war over this, the right versus the

[09:22] left. It was a politically motivated

[09:24] killing. Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie

[09:26] Kirk, first crime he's ever committed.

[09:27] decided to do that in broad daylight uh

[09:30] in a burning rage over LGBTQ rights,

[09:34] particularly trans rights because he has

[09:35] a trans furry boyfriend named Lance

[09:38] Twigs. "Some hate just can't be

[09:40] negotiated," he wrote via text. Like,

[09:43] "This is why I did it. Charlie Kirk, I

[09:44] took my shot because I can't I can't

[09:47] stand to hear the hatred that Charlie

[09:49] Kirk spews um regarding trans people."

[09:52] But we were constantly reminded uh that

[09:54] there was going to be footage also of

[09:56] Tyler Robinson taking that shot, that it

[09:58] had simply not been presented to the

[10:00] public yet because it wouldn't have been

[10:01] appropriate at that early phase. We just

[10:03] had to wait. Be patient. Erica herself

[10:05] told us back in November or December

[10:08] that she had seen the evidence and she

[10:10] was convinced it was Tyler Robinson. By

[10:12] the time she sat down for that interview

[10:14] with Barry Weiss, her mind was made up.

[10:16] That's the guy. No foreign involvement,

[10:19] no involvement of others. She doesn't

[10:20] need to see anything. Now, we were also

[10:22] told that Tyler's fingerprints and his

[10:24] DNA were found on the gun and that was

[10:27] presented rather exclusively. They never

[10:29] wanted to mention any other prints. Just

[10:31] case closed. This is our guy or

[10:34] overwhelmed. Okay. Now, what was our

[10:36] narrative here on the show? Because

[10:38] after months and countless hours of

[10:40] working on this case, chasing down every

[10:43] plausible lead, I maintained that Tyler

[10:46] Robinson's parents did parents did not

[10:49] turn him in. Okay, that was a

[10:51] mainstreamed lie. I said rather he was

[10:53] peer pressured to come in by Mike

[10:55] Mitchell, the former undercover

[10:57] detective with the police force and also

[10:59] a family friend of the Robinsons because

[11:02] he was Tyler Robinson's boy scout leader

[11:04] growing up. Um, I maintained that Mike

[11:08] Mitchell actually was the one who was

[11:10] told that they were going to bring in

[11:12] Tyler Robinson and he then went to Tyler

[11:14] Robinson's parents and said, "Look, you

[11:17] can do this the easy way or you can do

[11:18] this the hard way. No matter what,

[11:19] they're going to bring you in. So,

[11:21] you're going to have a circumstance

[11:22] where they're going to bust in the door.

[11:24] Your parents could get hurt. You could

[11:25] get hurt in that process or you can

[11:29] willfully come in." and he agreed to

[11:32] willfully go in, not confessing to a

[11:35] crime, but not wanting them to burst

[11:37] into his home and potentially harm him

[11:40] or his parents because he wasn't

[11:41] suicidal. Um, I also expressed to you

[11:44] that Tyler Robinson was not political,

[11:47] crucial, and that he came from a family

[11:49] of Trumpers. I want to be clear that I

[11:52] have never denied that the gun found was

[11:55] indeed Tyler Robinson's gun, but rather

[11:57] I have asserted that the gun was not

[11:59] fired on that day and was not used to

[12:02] kill Charlie Kirk. Particularly, we

[12:04] stressed on this show that he had simply

[12:06] inherited the gun as a family heirloom

[12:09] because he is the firstborn son, but

[12:11] that Tyler himself was actually more of

[12:13] a fisherman. His brothers were the

[12:15] hunters. I also have suggested heavily

[12:18] from the beginning that Lance Twigs is a

[12:21] federal asset who gathered Tyler's

[12:23] belongings to pin the crime on him. A

[12:25] very easy feat because he was his

[12:27] roommate and his boyfriend. And I

[12:28] suspect that Lance himself is heavily

[12:31] blackmailed because he was into some

[12:33] dark web stuff. I also uh noted the

[12:37] rather strange predicament that every

[12:40] single piece of evidence that the

[12:42] influencers are pushing relies on Lance

[12:45] Twigs, who himself probably should be

[12:48] considered a person that might be guilty

[12:52] of participating in the events on that

[12:54] day, who for some reason was immediately

[12:56] granted immunity by the feds and was not

[12:59] allowed to even be cross-examined at

[13:00] this stage for this hearing. despite

[13:03] arguments made um that his testament

[13:06] would amount to hearsay. They allowed it

[13:07] to fly at this phase of this is

[13:10] preliminary. We're just going to see if

[13:11] we go on. Now, regarding what took place

[13:14] on that day, we suggested

[13:16] that the feds

[13:18] intentionally flooded the zone with

[13:21] multiple decoys, different young men,

[13:23] all brunette, all wearing similar

[13:26] outfits. We termed these our maroon

[13:28] boys, right? Decoys. photos of three of

[13:31] them in a row right here. I said, "Why

[13:33] were so many men dressed like Tyler

[13:36] Robinson on this day? We showed you

[13:37] footage of many more of these men

[13:40] wandering, all of who fit the

[13:42] description of what we're about to see."

[13:44] And our biggest claim uh that we

[13:47] probably made on the show was that Tyler

[13:48] Robinson did not step foot onto campus

[13:51] on that day. At least that is what he

[13:53] told his family, that he was around

[13:55] campus, but not physically on campus

[13:58] himself. So in short, it should have

[14:00] been remarkably easily easy for people

[14:04] to debunk us right on this very easy.

[14:07] Well, I was sitting there actually

[14:09] expecting open and willing to have to

[14:11] concede at least one point for my

[14:13] investigation. I mean, I worked really

[14:15] hard to be perfectly accurate, but I was

[14:17] like, maybe maybe he lied to his parents

[14:19] and he was actually driving on campus

[14:22] that day. All they needed to present to

[14:25] make me look foolish was one clear photo

[14:28] of Tyler Robinson on campus. What we got

[14:32] instead was footage of unidentifiable

[14:35] brunette males, brunette males walking

[14:38] up and down the Loy Center steps at

[14:40] various points throughout the day. Um,

[14:42] what was presented in court was a

[14:44] compilation video which I would like to

[14:46] note was exhibit 12.4

[14:50] in court. Exhibit 12.4. 4. That's going

[14:53] to become relevant later when we talk

[14:54] about the influencers who have sold

[14:56] their souls to the devil. Uh 12.4 was a

[14:59] compilation of blurry male or males

[15:03] plural going up and downstairs and

[15:05] people said that's that's Tyler

[15:06] Robinson. Um let's let's take a look at

[15:09] that. Let's take a look at this video of

[15:11] the males in 12.4 moving throughout the

[15:15] day um going up and down the steps.

[15:20] Here we go. And we're we're speeding

[15:22] this up, I think, right? Or we cut it

[15:23] short. This is this is the undeniable

[15:26] evidence um that it's Tyler Robinson.

[15:28] This is And by the way, if you're

[15:30] feeling overwhelmed, please sit down and

[15:31] have a glass of water. We don't want

[15:33] anybody passing away looking at this

[15:36] undeniable. They're like, "This is Tyler

[15:38] Robinson. This is just like attempt at

[15:41] hypnosis. This is You're getting very

[15:43] sleepy. That's Tyler Robinson. That's

[15:46] Tyler Robinson. That's him. There is

[15:49] that's him. And by the way, I want to be

[15:52] clear.

[15:53] I can't meaningfully deny that that

[15:57] could be Tyler Robinson.

[15:59] It could also be Lance Twigs. It could

[16:02] be Ethan Hawk, Tom Holland, Timothy

[16:04] Shalamé in preparation for the d the

[16:06] final uh installment of Dune. could be

[16:08] any of I I couldn't reasonably deny that

[16:10] it's any of those young men or any one

[16:13] or number of the decoy boys on campus

[16:15] that day who I speculated all looked to

[16:17] me like they belonged in a military

[16:20] unit.

[16:22] Speaking of which, I think I forgot to

[16:23] mention to you guys that on the top

[16:26] floor of the Loy Center of all things,

[16:28] it's uh UVU's military affiliated

[16:31] student hub known as their MASH center.

[16:34] It's literally a dedicated student

[16:36] center for student veterans and their

[16:39] families. So that's it. That's what we

[16:43] we saw. We saw brunette males, maybe

[16:46] brunette males. I mean, I could even

[16:48] could be a dirty dirty blonde. I'm not

[16:51] ruling any A-listers out of being

[16:53] involved on this day. Actually, I'm just

[16:56] not convinced.

[16:58] Now, Lance, the star possible Fed

[17:01] witness, basically says it looks like

[17:05] Tyler in terms of his clothes. Like, I I

[17:08] recognize some of these clothes. He He

[17:11] liked to wear jeans. I kid you not. That

[17:13] was his testimony. Take a listen.

[17:15] >> Do you recognize the person in these

[17:17] images?

[17:19] I wouldn't say with a 100% certainty

[17:22] just because of camera quality, but that

[17:24] looks like him in terms of the shoes

[17:26] he's wearing, the sunglasses.

[17:28] I don't think I'd specifically seen him

[17:30] wearing that hat, but he was usually

[17:32] wearing a hat. Um, and then jeans. So,

[17:37] it definitely, especially the bottom,

[17:39] the last two definitely do look like

[17:42] him.

[17:47] Oh, they do look like Tyler Robinson.

[17:54] >> Well, I I say it's open and shut. He

[17:56] said he made it very clear that Tyler

[17:58] wears jeans that he wears those shoes.

[18:01] Shoes worn by We should probably look up

[18:04] how many millions of people wear those.

[18:07] I mean, I think I had 20 pairs of those

[18:09] shoes uh throughout my lifetime. But he

[18:13] he doesn't recognize the hat. Not one of

[18:15] his hats. But he does like to wear

[18:17] jeans.

[18:19] And what are those Chucks he's wearing?

[18:21] Like there we go. That rules it out.

[18:24] Really convincing. So I'm thinking let's

[18:27] move beyond that. Okay. Blurry video

[18:29] compilation 12.4. Surely they're going

[18:31] to be able to show us Tyler's car on

[18:33] campus because what would be the point

[18:35] of a parking lot surveillance system

[18:38] that doesn't capture the license plates

[18:41] on cars? That would just be foolish and

[18:42] a waste of our time. Why would you even

[18:44] have an entire surveillance system

[18:47] installed on campus that can't identify

[18:49] any faces or any cars at all? So, the

[18:52] question is, did we get that a clear

[18:54] photo? I was like, maybe he was actually

[18:56] driving around camp. No, we got more

[18:58] blurry images of what appears to be,

[19:01] judging by the car's exhaust pipes, a

[19:04] totally different Dodge Challenger from

[19:07] the one that Tyler Robinson was driving.

[19:09] Okay, here is what was shown. This is a

[19:11] car that this is his Dodge Challenger.

[19:13] And I want you to pay attention to those

[19:15] exhaust pipes at the bottom. We're going

[19:16] to zoom in there. Okay.

[19:19] You are noticing that that is a dual

[19:22] exhaust pipe. You see two, right? These

[19:26] are your eyes. I know the final

[19:27] instruction is don't believe your own

[19:30] eyes, but I'm asking you to believe your

[19:32] own eyes here.

[19:34] Well, Robinson's car, here's a still of

[19:36] the car, which is clearer, which was

[19:37] towed out of his driveway, features

[19:40] not a dual exhaust pipe exhaust system,

[19:43] but it's just it's singular. Okay,

[19:44] that's a major discrepancy that people

[19:47] are rightfully pointing out amongst

[19:49] other things. I got tons of emails from

[19:51] car people giving me specifics about why

[19:54] this you you basically when you order

[19:55] the car, you can order different things.

[19:57] We don't need to get into the

[19:58] nitty-gritty. Just believe your own eyes

[20:01] on the car front. Now, if you're

[20:04] thinking, Candace, are you suggesting

[20:05] that someone else could have, I don't

[20:07] know, rented a Dodge Challenger and been

[20:09] driving around a gray Dodge Challenger

[20:12] just so they could get images and say

[20:13] that it was Tyler Robinson's car? Well,

[20:16] actually, you don't need me to suggest

[20:18] it. Actually, a witness confirmed that

[20:20] they saw someone else driving a gray

[20:22] Challenger, particularly uh a bald guy

[20:26] driving the Challenger late at 12:47

[20:30] a.m. You know, there was that uh Nest

[20:32] video that captured him returning to

[20:34] campus um or at 12:47 a.m. around

[20:37] campus. The woman who captured that

[20:39] footage testified to police that she saw

[20:41] a bald man accompanied by three other

[20:44] people in the car. Take a listen. Now,

[20:47] I'd like to talk a little bit about the

[20:49] Ring camera that um you obtained and you

[20:52] interviewed a woman named Miss Noble. Is

[20:54] that right? To get that ring camera that

[20:57] we watched with the car on the outside.

[20:59] >> Uh she we interviewed her to verify the

[21:02] authenticity of the video. Yes.

[21:04] >> And were you involved in that interview

[21:06] >> with Miss Noble?

[21:08] >> Yes.

[21:08] >> And do you recall what they told you

[21:10] about what they remember seeing in and

[21:12] around that car that night?

[21:14] >> Uh I don't recall. I I just know we were

[21:17] there to verify the video. I didn't

[21:19] conduct an interview with Miss Noble at

[21:20] that time.

[21:21] >> And do you remember that the nobles told

[21:23] you that the driver of the vehicle was

[21:26] bald?

[21:28] >> I I do remember that being in the

[21:29] report. Yes.

[21:30] >> And you didn't mention that today when

[21:32] you were talking about that ring camera,

[21:34] did you?

[21:36] >> I did not.

[21:37] >> And did they also tell you there were

[21:38] three other people in the car?

[21:42] >> Yes. I believe they they thought that

[21:44] was the case.

[21:47] forgot to mention when we showed you

[21:49] this evidence of Tyler Robinson's car

[21:51] that the person who captured it said

[21:53] that they saw a baldman and three other

[21:54] people. By the way, paging Blake Nef,

[21:58] he did this weird ex live that we're

[22:00] going to talk about tomorrow where he

[22:01] doesn't his memory gets really fuzzy

[22:03] that evening. Apparently, a few of the

[22:05] people at Turning Point USA, despite

[22:06] Charlie dying, went out later that night

[22:10] and don't necessarily recall what they

[22:12] were doing. I think we got to try to

[22:14] help them figure it out. Okay. Anyway,

[22:17] we told you early on that it is highly

[22:20] unlikely, despite what looks to us to be

[22:23] like Fed drafted text messages, that

[22:26] Tyler returned to campus to, as his text

[22:29] messages say, watch the K9 officers

[22:33] uh to babysit his rifle because we broke

[22:37] the story that Tyler was eating a steak

[22:38] down in Penguitch. He concluded and and

[22:41] paid at 9:47 p.m. There's a literal

[22:44] receipt for that because, as we said, he

[22:47] paid with his debit card. So, we can

[22:49] timestamp him 3 hours away at 9:47 p.m.

[22:55] when he's apparently texting Lance. Uh,

[23:01] it's three-hour ride. So, when Lance

[23:04] says that he gets his phone um and he's

[23:09] getting an automated message and they're

[23:12] they start talking and Tyler, he says

[23:14] the first message came in at 11 p.m.

[23:15] Well, 11 p.m. I can tell you right now

[23:18] that drop everything and look under your

[23:20] keyboard at 11 p.m. He says that's an

[23:21] automated message. And then him and him

[23:24] and Tyler begin texting and he's like,

[23:26] "Oh, I'm babysitting things out here in

[23:29] Oram. I'm waiting to go back and get my

[23:31] like, how is that possible if at nearly

[23:35] 10 p.m. he's leaving Penguish? He He

[23:39] couldn't have been babysitting the

[23:40] campus. This is the problem. The

[23:42] messages are problematic, and that's why

[23:44] they're not timestamped. He could not

[23:46] have been doing what he said he was

[23:48] doing, texting Lance after 11 p.m. Or he

[23:50] decided not to mention that he got

[23:52] pulled over by a police officer around

[23:53] 12:30 and he just was just texting him

[23:56] in earnest. None of the text messages

[23:58] make sense and we're going to need

[23:59] timestamps. By the way, just a little

[24:02] fun ad that the messages were apparently

[24:05] extracted uh by a company based in Tel

[24:09] Aviv. Israel is taking care of the Lance

[24:12] messages. Guys, trust the science. Let's

[24:15] pull these up. By the way, let's pull

[24:17] pull these messages up. Okay.

[24:20] 11 p.m. Allegedly automated. Nobody

[24:22] knows why he sent an automated message.

[24:24] Drop what you're doing and look under my

[24:26] keyboard. He says, "Lance, what?

[24:30] You're joking, right? F. I tried to

[24:33] delete that." Tyler comes back with, "I

[24:36] am still okay, my love, but I am stuck

[24:38] in Orum for a little while longer yet."

[24:40] It's very gone with the wind. I love

[24:42] that. I'm stuck in Orum for a little

[24:44] while longer yet. Uh, it shouldn't be

[24:46] long until I can come home, but I got to

[24:47] grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had

[24:50] hoped to keep this secret till I died of

[24:51] old age. I'm sorry to involve you. Oh

[24:54] gosh, I know. He shouldn't have said old

[24:55] age because um the fed narrative is that

[24:59] he was suicidal. I just It's a bad thing

[25:01] to say that you weren't the one who did

[25:03] this, right? I am. I'm sorry. I thought

[25:06] they caught the person. No, they grabbed

[25:08] some crazy old dude. They interrogated

[25:10] someone in similar clothing. I had

[25:12] planned to grab my rifle from my drop

[25:14] point shortly, but most of that side of

[25:16] town got locked down. It's quiet almost

[25:19] enough to get out, but there's one

[25:22] vehicle lingering. Like, I'd like some

[25:24] time stamps here. I'd like to make it

[25:25] work with Tyler going to get a steak in

[25:28] Panggu, driving 3 hours to Panguage, and

[25:31] then turning around and coming back.

[25:33] Just 6 hours of driving and eating

[25:37] is not coming across in these messages.

[25:40] And then we have here, I had enough of

[25:42] his hatred. Some hate just can't be

[25:44] negotiated out. Um, if I'm able to grab

[25:47] my rifle unseen, this feels to me like a

[25:50] person who is not native to speaking

[25:52] English, American English, is

[25:55] translating. If I'm able to grab my

[25:57] rifle unseen is not not what we say.

[26:01] That's just not how we how we speak. You

[26:03] can say it, but it's not how we would

[26:05] say it. I will have left no evidence.

[26:07] Going to attempt to retrieve it again.

[26:09] Hopefully, they have moved on. I haven't

[26:11] seen anything of a news about them

[26:12] finding it. I will update you by

[26:15] midnight. Here is what I would like to

[26:16] do. It is very important for us to

[26:19] establish because he is speaking about

[26:21] the canines and I think I can by the way

[26:24] I can back channel um because I talked

[26:26] about the kines's on the show and I can

[26:28] go back to that source. But if you have

[26:29] information related to when the kines

[26:31] were brought on to the scene, please

[26:34] email us tips at kennace.com. that will

[26:37] allow us to get a timestamp in there

[26:39] because he says he's observing the

[26:41] canines going back and forth and I this

[26:44] could be exculpatory evidence

[26:47] the penguish steak and I think my gut

[26:50] has been right from the beginning our

[26:51] gut everyone's gut that these messages

[26:54] feel a little fed sloppy little fed

[26:57] sloppy Joe more tips at kennace.com or

[26:59] tips@canniswowens.com if you know what

[27:02] time um the officers had the canines

[27:06] there on the scene.

[27:09] Anyway, uh noticeably missing was any of

[27:11] that shock testimony regarding Tyler's

[27:13] parents' statements turning their son

[27:16] in. Again, we got to get an update from

[27:17] Bill Aman on on the mill. That's a cool

[27:19] mill. It's a lot of money. To the

[27:22] contrary, there was plenty of testimony

[27:24] regarding how Lance Twigs's prints were

[27:26] on everything. The towel, the gun, the

[27:28] Dremel that was used to carve out the

[27:30] messages on the cartridges. Uh, Lance

[27:33] claims, I know his alibi is for that day

[27:35] when Charlie was shot, um, or had an

[27:38] exploding mic. Lance claims that he

[27:40] slept in until 100 p.m. How convenient.

[27:43] Charlie gets hit at 12:23 and Lance

[27:46] actually slept 37 minutes beyond that on

[27:49] September 10th. So convenient. Um, and

[27:52] then he woke up.

[27:55] Here are some more devastating points of

[27:57] this hearing. Okay, Lance confirmed my

[28:00] report that Tyler was not political. If

[28:03] Lance is to be believed, then their

[28:06] entire entire leftist rage motive about

[28:09] LGBTQ rights virtually just disappeared.

[28:12] Okay, take a listen.

[28:14] >> Did you and he ever talk about politics?

[28:17] >> Um, he did more than me. I

[28:21] I didn't really still don't really keep

[28:23] up with politics very much.

[28:26] Uh he'd usually talk about stuff he

[28:28] heard on the radio on his drive to work

[28:30] in like their work car since it sounds

[28:32] like their whole crew went in the same

[28:35] car most of the time. But uh I wouldn't

[28:39] say super consistently because it wasn't

[28:41] a topic I really contributed much on.

[28:44] >> About Charlie Kirk? Did you ever talk

[28:46] about Charlie Kirk?

[28:47] >> I I personally had never heard him talk

[28:49] about Charlie Kirk before specifically.

[28:52] >> Okay. Um, how about um

[28:58] political issues? So, did you ever talk

[29:00] about gender identity issues and LGBTQ

[29:03] rights?

[29:04] >> Uh, no, not not really. Um,

[29:09] uh, usually if he did talk about

[29:10] politics stuff, it was uh relating to

[29:13] Trump or current like policies being uh

[29:18] like issued or voted voted on, I think.

[29:22] Yeah.

[29:25] >> Oh, I think we reported that this was a

[29:28] family filled with Trump supporters and

[29:30] you're telling me just he would maybe

[29:32] hear something on radio and talk about a

[29:33] policy issue. Didn't see massity hated

[29:35] Trump there. uh you never heard him

[29:38] speak about LGBTQ issues that like are

[29:40] you telling me that people were trying

[29:43] to essentially launch a civil war

[29:45] between the left and the right and the

[29:46] very people who claim to be fighting

[29:48] that sort of stuff were actually trying

[29:51] to instigate it. Trying to instigate

[29:53] that left versus right gay versus

[29:57] straight. This was being initiated by

[29:58] the right because they just couldn't

[30:01] wait to hear anything beyond what the

[30:03] Fed was serving. But there was even more

[30:05] explosive testimony, believe it or not.

[30:07] Um, and it got really scientific, and it

[30:11] came from the ATF on the final day. This

[30:13] is actually my view of the reason that

[30:15] the influencers went positively insane

[30:18] and suddenly pretended that they were

[30:20] made privy to some 4K HD video footage

[30:24] of Tyler Robinson taking the shot on the

[30:26] roof. They, of course, were lying

[30:29] through their teeth. We're going to get

[30:30] to that later, but I believe that the

[30:32] reason they did it, the reason why they

[30:33] went insane was to overcome the

[30:35] testimony of Caitlyn Oliver. Okay,

[30:38] Caitlyn Oliver was the ATF's forensic

[30:40] biologist. And she gave a devastating

[30:43] testimony uh for the it was devastating

[30:47] to the um prosecution. These are the

[30:50] major points from that testimony. Okay.

[30:52] First, she explicitly admitted that the

[30:54] media's assertion that Tyler Robinson's

[30:57] DNA was found on the gun was, and I

[31:00] quote, a scientifically indefensible

[31:04] statement. Take a listen.

[31:06] >> From a scientific standpoint, you

[31:07] couldn't read the paragraph that sets

[31:10] out the likelihood ratio in your report,

[31:13] whatever the number, and then blast a

[31:16] headline in the media, Mr. Robinson's

[31:19] DNA is found on this item. That's a

[31:21] source attribution, is it not?

[31:23] >> Correct. Yes.

[31:24] >> And that would not be scientifically

[31:26] defensible, would it?

[31:27] >> Correct.

[31:30] >> Tyler Robinson's lawyer then goes

[31:32] through great pains to to show that the

[31:34] media and the influencers took what was

[31:37] essentially scientific jargon and they

[31:39] lied. And I'm going to explain that to

[31:40] you. So, I want you to lock in. Okay?

[31:42] You may have heard them over and over

[31:43] again stipulating that Tyler Robinson

[31:46] was a major contributor to the DNA

[31:49] sample. Right? So, if you're uninitiated

[31:51] and you hear that, it sounds like it

[31:52] means Tyler Robinson's DNA was all over

[31:55] the gun. He's a major contributor to the

[31:57] DNA sample. But it actually does not

[31:59] mean that at all. And I want you to take

[32:00] a listen to what she says, and then I'm

[32:02] going to break it down for you further

[32:03] so that you can understand what they did

[32:05] here.

[32:07] >> And you can't tell us anything about

[32:09] when

[32:11] the DNA was deposited on the trigger

[32:14] guard or the trigger. Correct.

[32:16] >> Correct. You can tell us anything about

[32:19] whether when you say it's at least four,

[32:21] it could be five, six, or seven people

[32:25] with DNA on that trigger or trigger

[32:28] guard. Correct.

[32:29] >> Correct. Which is why we have the major

[32:32] contributor that is suitable for

[32:33] comparison and the minor contributor is

[32:36] not suitable for comparison due to that

[32:38] complexity.

[32:39] >> And again, major minor just has to do

[32:41] with the levels of DNA you were seeing.

[32:43] has nothing to do with someone being

[32:47] engaged in activity that is major in

[32:50] relation to the minor contributor.

[32:52] >> Yes. So the major contributor is the um

[32:56] majority of the DNA contributed to that

[32:58] sample.

[32:59] >> Okay. Okay. So I'm going to break that

[33:01] down further and and why this is is

[33:03] really big and we're building on

[33:04] something else that she's going to say

[33:06] that is explosive. So the idea of what

[33:09] she's explaining is that like let's this

[33:11] is my mug. I drink out of this mug every

[33:14] day. So, I definitively would have the

[33:16] most DNA fingerprints all over this mug.

[33:20] But occasionally, um, Ashley, my

[33:22] producer, will go fill up the mug. So,

[33:24] let's say Ashley, when she fills up the

[33:26] mug, I'm all on the handle. Maybe Ashley

[33:28] just touches her two fingers here when

[33:30] she fills up the water. Okay. She is

[33:33] saying that these are mixed samples. So,

[33:36] let's say they just took a sample right

[33:38] here of where Ashley happens to have

[33:40] touched it, but it still also has my um

[33:43] fingerprint on it. Ashley could be

[33:45] described as a major contributor to the

[33:49] DNA sample. Despite the fact that this

[33:51] is my mug and the majority of this mug

[33:53] has my DNA on it, Ashley could be

[33:55] described because they just carved out

[33:57] that one portion which happens to have

[33:59] Ashley's DNA on it. So they com

[34:01] intentionally misconstrued the intention

[34:04] of the ATF report when they were relying

[34:06] on a sample in which Tyler Robinson was

[34:10] the major contributor of that particular

[34:12] mixed sample. And he also went through

[34:14] great lengths to explain to people why

[34:16] they don't use since 1996 they actually

[34:18] don't rely on mixed samples for that

[34:20] very reason because it confuses matters.

[34:22] They try to isolate samples. She then

[34:24] confirms our repeat report as you just

[34:27] heard her that there was a minimum of

[34:30] five sets of DNA on some of these mixed

[34:32] samples. Four sets of DNA could be more

[34:35] people that actually were a piece of

[34:37] were also found on the gun, but prints

[34:40] which are found on the gun which of

[34:42] course included Lance Twigs. Uh it also

[34:44] included Matt Robinson, Tyler's father.

[34:47] I'm going to guess that it also included

[34:48] his brothers. Um, and of those multiple

[34:52] sets, and this is what is crucial and is

[34:54] explosive, and everyone should have

[34:56] reported on this, they reported that she

[34:58] reported that Tyler Robinson's DNA

[35:01] sample was the most degraded. Okay, I'm

[35:05] going to say that again. Tyler Robinson,

[35:07] despite all of these prints on the gun,

[35:09] Tyler Robinson's prints were the most

[35:13] degraded or his DNA was the most

[35:15] degraded. And I'm going to explain that

[35:17] in a second. Take a listen to her say

[35:18] that.

[35:20] The 1.3 sample

[35:24] is described as swabs of trigger and

[35:27] trigger guard. Right.

[35:29] >> Correct.

[35:29] >> You didn't do the swabs, but um am I

[35:33] correct that you have no way of knowing

[35:37] which part was from the trigger and

[35:40] which part was from the trigger guard?

[35:43] >> Correct. So, they were swabbed together.

[35:44] So, I wouldn't be able to say um where

[35:46] the DNA came from. Um and that's one of

[35:50] the samples that was degraded. Correct.

[35:54] >> Uh there were signs of degradation

[35:56] present in that sample. Yes.

[35:57] >> And you said with regard to that sample

[36:00] that that was a sample

[36:02] consistent with at least four

[36:04] contributors.

[36:07] >> Correct.

[36:09] >> Correct.

[36:11] And did the what you term the major

[36:15] profile

[36:17] have the largest amount of degradation

[36:19] in that sample?

[36:22] >> There was Yes.

[36:24] >> Exhibit 1.3. Do you know where that swab

[36:27] was taken from?

[36:29] >> I'd have to refer back to page two.

[36:30] >> Can we refer back to page two, please,

[36:32] Kimberly? Thank you.

[36:35] >> 1.3 is the swabs of the trigger and

[36:37] trigger guard of the rifle. All

[36:38] >> right. Going back to page five

[36:46] and

[36:48] we've had some talk uh some testimony

[36:50] from you and some questions for you

[36:51] about the likelihood ratios.

[36:54] What was your conclusion as to uh

[36:58] [clears throat]

[37:00] the likelihood

[37:02] ratio that you analyzed in this question

[37:04] in calculation number three? I don't

[37:07] think we need this.

[37:08] >> The DNA profile was le at least one.

[37:12] >> Okay. So, you heard her say that that

[37:14] his was the most degraded of the

[37:17] firearms. And she and she's talking

[37:19] about the trigger guard and the trigger.

[37:21] She's not sure where they got the sample

[37:22] from. And that's a huge difference

[37:23] because they kept saying that his DNA

[37:25] was on the trigger. And she's admitting

[37:27] it could be the trigger guard. That's

[37:28] just the that's just the cover for the

[37:30] trigger. And of all of the samples that

[37:32] were on there, Tyler's was the most

[37:34] degraded. That is an absolute bombshell.

[37:36] And let me explain why, okay?

[37:39] Because it's not possible.

[37:42] For clarity, earlier on she discusses

[37:44] that DNA can stay on an object um for a

[37:48] very long time. She doesn't get

[37:49] specific. I can tell you, and you can

[37:50] research this on your own, DNA can stay

[37:52] on an object for decades. Decades. Okay?

[37:56] But over time, it can certainly degrade.

[37:58] It can degrade because it's been

[38:00] exposed, and she does testify to

[38:02] humidity over time. uh dust part

[38:05] particles begin to set in. If you just

[38:07] put up your grandpa's gun and dust

[38:09] particles are just sitting in your house

[38:10] because you don't use it, uh that would

[38:12] be a reason that it might degrade. It

[38:14] maybe you had water on it, it might

[38:16] degrade. It does not seem to me that DNA

[38:21] would suddenly degrade immediately after

[38:23] someone shoots a person, jumps off a

[38:26] rooftop, and tosses the gun into a

[38:28] nearby bush. Okay, this registers to me

[38:31] as more evidence that Lance Twigs simply

[38:34] took Tyler Robinson's family heirloom of

[38:37] a gun and helped the feds set him up as

[38:40] a psy. There is no reason why Lance

[38:42] Twigs's prints are less degraded than

[38:46] Tyler Robinson's prints on this gun. If

[38:48] Tyler Robinson is the shooter, it is a a

[38:51] a massive admission by her that his

[38:54] prints were degrading. G giving how much

[38:56] it takes to degrade those prints. So

[39:00] that was something that I felt that they

[39:01] were intentionally trying to gloss over

[39:03] and realizing that she's basically kind

[39:05] of asserting like

[39:07] Matt Robinson and Tyl and and Lance

[39:10] Twigs had stronger DNA had a stronger

[39:14] DNA sample than Tyler Robinson did. he

[39:16] was the most degraded. And then of

[39:18] course when you couple this with the day

[39:19] earlier the ATF's every time the ATF

[39:22] spoke it was devastating um for the

[39:24] prosecution. The ATF ballistics ex

[39:26] expert was a woman named Samantha

[39:27] Carner. She spoke on day four and she

[39:30] similarly gave testimony that was very

[39:31] in the weeds and scientific and whenever

[39:34] they do that I just start researching

[39:35] the numbers they're saying is I know

[39:37] that there's a point being made and

[39:39] Tyler Robinson's defense did a very good

[39:41] job of asking her to read her report of

[39:43] the diameter the diameter range for the

[39:47] bullet jacket jacket fragment. By the

[39:49] way, it was weird off the bat that they

[39:51] said they took seven bullet uh seven

[39:53] fragments from Charlie's body. She

[39:55] testifies that she only received four of

[39:58] them in an envelope, in a manila

[40:00] envelope. So, three disappeared. Of the

[40:03] four that she got, three of them were

[40:04] unusable and then she was left with one

[40:07] uh which she labeled 6A. And that's what

[40:10] they're discussing, this bullet jacket

[40:12] fragment. And she gives this a range of

[40:16] diameter. and it describes in detail why

[40:19] she gave it that range and how confident

[40:21] she was that you were looking for a

[40:24] bullet that would be um in this range of

[40:26] a diameter. Take a listen to this

[40:28] testimony and the range that she gives.

[40:31] >> The range of the diameter for the 6A

[40:34] bullet jacket fragment was 286 to301

[40:38] in.

[40:41] The reason why that matters is because

[40:43] it's too small for Tyler's 306. That's

[40:46] why he was going through great lengths

[40:48] to get her saying that on record. Um

[40:50] because a 30 6 would begin at 308

[40:56] and then it goes upward. The cartridge

[40:57] diameter goes upward to 471. So she's

[41:01] basically admitting it's not Tyler

[41:04] Robinson's gun. I I would love to see

[41:07] this go on. I would love to see this go

[41:09] further. Uh because well if people are

[41:12] going to be able to see the full extent

[41:14] of this trial you are going to really

[41:17] appreciate the psychological campaign

[41:19] further that is being um employed right

[41:22] now. The audacity of these influencers.

[41:24] We return now to exhibit 12.4. Okay.

[41:27] 12.4 again is the original compilation

[41:30] footage. It's the footage of Tyler

[41:32] Robinson or Timothy Chalamé,

[41:35] right? Or Timothy Chalamé.

[41:38] Maybe it's Bench Pier. I don't know.

[41:40] Maybe Ben's a little too short. But any

[41:43] brunette male, right, of a of a decent

[41:45] height could be walking up these stairs.

[41:47] And they're giving us this compilation

[41:49] of parking garage footage plus footage

[41:51] of Tyler Robinson uh jumping onto the

[41:54] rooftop. They made it clear clear on day

[41:58] two of the trial that 12.4 this

[42:01] compilation does not show Tyler Robinson

[42:05] taking the shot. Okay, they made that

[42:08] perfectly clear and take a listen to

[42:10] that

[42:11] >> if you wouldn't mind uh just describe in

[42:13] a bit more detail uh what this

[42:15] compilation includes.

[42:18] >> Uh the compilation uh shows the

[42:20] movements of what you're believed to be

[42:22] Mr. Robinson on Utah Valley University

[42:25] campus.

[42:26] uh arriving and leaving in a vehicle,

[42:29] arriving and leaving on foot, and then

[42:31] returning and leaving, and then

[42:33] attempting to gain access again in a

[42:35] vehicle. And uh his movements throughout

[42:38] the day uh are included in the videos

[42:40] also.

[42:44] Is there any uh footage of

[42:53] of the of the alleged shooting?

[42:56] >> There is not judge.

[42:57] >> Okay. I just want to clarify that.

[43:00] >> Okay.

[43:02] So, 12.4 does not have any footage, did

[43:05] not capture footage of Tyler Robinson

[43:07] actually taking a shot, who they believe

[43:10] is Tyler Robinson actually taking a

[43:12] shot. Also on day two, they discussed a

[43:15] a piece of footage that was born from

[43:18] 12.4. Okay, they discussed it and it was

[43:21] an exhibit that was labeled 12.1. It was

[43:24] the same footage as 12.4, which we've

[43:27] all seen. That is available. You can go

[43:29] watch that entire footage. You can watch

[43:31] that day two of the trial. It is the

[43:33] same footage, but except they claim that

[43:37] they enhanced the footage. And they were

[43:38] very clear about what that meant. They

[43:41] went, this was a whole back and forth

[43:42] about what does it mean? You took you

[43:44] took 12.4 and you enhanced it. And here

[43:48] is what they said 12.1 was. Take a

[43:50] listen.

[43:52] >> Let's return again to what's been marked

[43:54] stakes exhibit 12.1

[43:59] >> again. You've reviewed that video.

[44:01] >> Yes.

[44:02] >> And the difference between 12.1 or

[44:03] what's been marked stakes exhibit 12.1

[44:05] and 12.4 for are are if I understand you

[44:09] correctly are these enhancements that

[44:10] we've been talking about.

[44:11] >> Yes.

[44:12] >> And and specifically what what be

[44:15] specific be specific about the

[44:17] enhancements and let's go one at a time.

[44:19] >> Okay.

[44:20] >> Um I think there's a reference to either

[44:22] red circles or red highlights. Correct.

[44:24] That's how uh Mr. Olsson described it.

[44:26] Red highlights.

[44:27] >> Yes.

[44:28] >> Do you know do you know what he's uh

[44:30] what is what's he referencing by the red

[44:33] highlights or what do you believe he's

[44:34] referencing? I believe he's referring to

[44:37] red ovals or circles that were placed

[44:39] over the image to identify specific

[44:41] individuals of note.

[44:43] >> I think the next uh enhancement that

[44:45] that has been mentioned that we've

[44:47] talked about is there's some blurring.

[44:49] >> Yes.

[44:49] >> Do do you know what that tell us what

[44:52] that is? What blurring do you see in

[44:54] state what's been marked as states

[44:55] exhibit 12.1

[44:57] uh that you now don't see in 12.4? If I

[45:00] recall, there were some individuals uh

[45:02] in the parking garage footage and their

[45:04] faces were blurred.

[45:06] >> Is is any anything other than faces

[45:09] being blurred? And then the last thing

[45:11] is I believe is there some zooming in

[45:13] and zooming out that's in 12.1 that has

[45:15] been removed uh yes 12.4. What can you

[45:18] tell us about the zooming in and the

[45:20] zooming out?

[45:21] >> Uh predominantly it's in the area that

[45:23] was uh referred to as viewing the Losi

[45:25] building rooftop.

[45:27] I believe it focuses on the area where

[45:30] Mr. Robinson comes up the stairs and

[45:32] onto the rooftop. Uh those portions of

[45:36] that particular footage were zoomed in

[45:38] for clarity.

[45:40] >> So to reiterate,

[45:42] 12.1 is simply an enhanced video of

[45:45] 12.4. What enhanced means is that it

[45:48] zooms in at the end on the Loy Center

[45:51] portion when we just see a blur running

[45:53] across. They said, "We zoomed in on

[45:56] this." And I don't know about you guys,

[45:58] my experience is that when you zoom in,

[45:59] things become less clear on my phone,

[46:01] but I've never claimed to be a tech

[46:03] genius. We're also told that it features

[46:05] highlights and they've added some red

[46:07] circles like we do often on this show.

[46:09] And they also decided to blur some faces

[46:11] of other people that were in the

[46:13] background during the parking lot shots.

[46:15] They made this clear. Beyond that, they

[46:18] actually showed 12.1 already in court,

[46:21] but it was for the judge and the witness

[46:24] only, except they made a mistake and

[46:27] they accidentally left their computer

[46:28] open. So, Court TV captured some of that

[46:32] footage and you can see that it is

[46:34] literally the exact same video as 12.4,

[46:38] but it's been zoomed in. So, great work

[46:40] from this ex user at Cancon for catching

[46:44] that. I don't know if we can pull that

[46:45] up. Sky around the 235 mark, he zooms in

[46:48] and shows the video actually. Did you

[46:51] Did you pull that link by any chance?

[46:54] Yeah, let's play that. Let's let's let's

[46:56] play this link so you can actually see

[46:58] it yourselves before we watch how the

[46:59] influencers reacted.

[47:05] >> There they are watching it on the

[47:06] screen. Okay, now you can see now you

[47:08] can see that this is the top right

[47:11] quadrant that you would be looking at

[47:12] when the camera moved to where Robinson

[47:14] jumps off. Allegedly Robinson jumps off

[47:17] the the roof. Now, you can't see this

[47:20] here because it's a little difficult.

[47:21] I'll zoom in as much as I can so you

[47:24] guys can see, but the clear like the

[47:28] clear identifying image of Tyler

[47:30] Robinson, you're going to see it on this

[47:32] screen.

[47:35] And again, this is at 1 hour 16 minutes

[47:37] and 27 seconds on Court TV's day two of

[47:40] the trial. Okay, so you're going to see

[47:42] here, correction, it's 1 hour 17 minutes

[47:44] and 30 seconds.

[47:48] He's running across now. I don't know if

[47:50] you can see it because all he is is a

[47:52] pixel. That's all he is is a pixel. He's

[47:55] running across right now. Watch.

[48:00] >> I can see it. You saw the pixel.

[48:07] That's it. That's the enhanced version

[48:09] that everybody wants to condemn this guy

[48:11] on.

[48:14] Again, I'm not saying one way or the

[48:15] other here. I am not saying one way or

[48:17] the other here,

[48:19] but that's the enhanced photo that

[48:21] everybody has seen in the courtroom.

[48:24] That's it. It's it was leaked by the

[48:26] state. It was on one of the state at

[48:28] >> Fantastic work. He is correct. I fact

[48:31] checked that. We looked at it. We saw

[48:32] them go back and forth about why they

[48:34] didn't want to play it for the public

[48:35] and sure enough they made a mistake and

[48:37] accidentally played it for the public.

[48:39] That blur that you just saw. Now

[48:41] granted, obviously we're looking at a

[48:42] video of a video, but that's the video

[48:45] that that's it. And 12, it's born of

[48:48] 12.4, which you are free to watch

[48:51] yourself on day two of the trial and you

[48:53] can zoom in yourself and you can see

[48:55] it's still blurry. There was nothing

[48:57] identifying about Tyler Robinson. But

[48:59] that's not why Erica asked the

[49:01] influencers to come, right? She didn't

[49:02] ask the influencers come to demonstrate

[49:04] the truth or be honest about what they

[49:06] saw. So, here is Benny Johnson's

[49:09] reaction to the video. Take a listen.

[49:12] >> We're outside of the fourth district

[49:13] courthouse here in Utah. The Charlie

[49:15] Kirk preliminary murder trial just

[49:17] wrapped. We were there and witnessed

[49:19] everything and you have to hear this

[49:22] because it was devastating what we

[49:24] watched. And the judge ruled that you

[49:26] can't see the highdefin quality video 4K

[49:31] of Tyler Robinson committing the murder

[49:34] of Charlie Kirk, but we saw it and they

[49:37] played it on giant screens inside of the

[49:38] courthouse. You can see clearly Tyler

[49:41] Robinson's face. You can see crystal

[49:43] clear the license plate number on his

[49:45] vehicle, his movements on the rooftop.

[49:48] You can time it up to when Charlie Kirk

[49:51] was murdered. And what you also couldn't

[49:52] see was what happened inside of the

[49:54] courthouse. Erica Kirk was sobbing in

[49:56] the arms of her mother-in-law, Charlie's

[49:58] mother, Mrs. Kirk, feet away as Tyler

[50:01] Robinson, pale, salow, bony, emaciated,

[50:05] staring at the floor the whole time,

[50:07] twitching and looking straight ahead,

[50:09] refuses to watch the video, refused to

[50:11] make eye contact with the family.

[50:12] Emotional day. The judge played all 20

[50:15] minutes of the highde security footage

[50:17] and the whole courthouse gasped when it

[50:20] was over.

[50:21] It was really tough to watch. The

[50:24] prosecution has a demonstrable

[50:26] overwhelming case. They said that

[50:28] multiple times. The defense has nothing.

[50:30] They asked minutiae questions about DNA

[50:33] evidence, but the judge was just chewing

[50:35] him along as we get to this 4K video

[50:38] reveal that will eventually be made

[50:40] public. It's already a case that is

[50:43] overwhelming against Tyler Robinson. But

[50:45] once you see this video, you will cast

[50:48] out all of the demons that have been

[50:49] attacking the Kirk family. It has been

[50:51] one of the most grotesque demonic evils

[50:53] that have been visited upon innocent

[50:55] people has happened to this beautiful

[50:57] family. Once you see all of the evidence

[51:00] that we saw today, it's over. And that's

[51:02] what the lawyers said today. Please

[51:04] pray. Erica Kirk asked us to do this.

[51:07] Pray for a speedy trial. We have a right

[51:09] to a a speedy trial here. It's in our

[51:11] constitution. We don't have to wait

[51:13] years in order to get to a trial phase

[51:15] here. We want justice to be done.

[51:16] Justice

[51:18] has to be done in this case and done

[51:21] immediately. So, please pray for the

[51:23] Kirks. They've been through enough time

[51:24] for justice for the widow. And just a

[51:26] word to all the Christians out there. Uh

[51:28] the Bible calls us in the Old Testament,

[51:30] the New Testament to defend the widow,

[51:32] to defend the orphans, to provide for

[51:34] her, and and to stand up for her. And

[51:37] so, be a Christian today. Be upright.

[51:39] Please pray for justice in this case.

[51:41] and speedy trial. Thank you. God bless

[51:43] you.

[51:50] >> I don't know. It's so shameless and

[51:53] grotesque and dishonest and the amount

[51:56] of money being spent on this for these

[51:58] emotional assets to come out and wax

[52:01] poetic and then not realize they made a

[52:03] mistake and now they're all kind of

[52:04] backtracking being like oh no it doesn't

[52:06] actually show him gets shot but it shows

[52:07] him getting into the prone position and

[52:09] oh they didn't realize that they had no

[52:11] idea when they all started making these

[52:13] videos to cover up the the minutia of

[52:16] the DNA de they you know they were

[52:18] talking about the DNA evidence don't pay

[52:19] attention to that pay attention

[52:20] attention to the video that we're

[52:21] telling you was exclusively shown to us,

[52:22] which is it's crazy, but it was so clear

[52:25] at the very end of day five. They showed

[52:28] the influencers

[52:30] 4K HD perfectly perfectly clear.

[52:34] Everyone else was spending nine hours a

[52:35] day watching every day of the hearing,

[52:37] but they waited till the end to give

[52:39] this gift to the same influencers who

[52:42] have been trying to

[52:44] help the government wage a war against

[52:47] our minds. This is a psychological

[52:49] operation. It is failing. It is, like I

[52:51] said, requiring an unbelievable amount

[52:54] of money. And now I get why they had to

[52:56] file for FAR, right? Like I mean, people

[52:58] are getting paid. There is no other

[53:01] explanation for how people could lie

[53:03] like this. I mean, I'm shocked. I'm

[53:04] shocked at Benny Johnson. I've never had

[53:06] an issue with Benny Johnson. This gives

[53:07] me an issue with Benny Johnson. How do

[53:09] you lie like that? All of the

[53:10] influencers who came out and lied this

[53:13] word overwhelming. Overwhelming. The

[53:15] reason why they do that sort of

[53:16] repetition, just so you guys understand,

[53:18] is because it's proven effective in the

[53:20] past. It used to work. It How many of

[53:22] you guys watching this right now did

[53:24] actually lock down at home and believe

[53:26] that you were going to die from CO wear

[53:28] a mask, 6 feet social distancing.

[53:32] The evidence is overwhelming against

[53:34] Tyler Robinson. They have shown right

[53:37] over the course of many decades that

[53:39] these sorts of psychological operations

[53:42] work. If you repeat something enough

[53:44] times, it can become true for some

[53:46] people, even if it defies common sense.

[53:49] Like I said, I was willing to concede

[53:52] points like I've been investigating.

[53:53] It's possible we got something. Nothing

[53:56] that they presented. In fact, the

[53:57] contrary was presented. It's not No,

[54:00] it's not minute when they're talking

[54:02] about the DNA. It's not minute when the

[54:04] ATF is saying that the most degraded

[54:06] sample was Tyler Robinson's on not the

[54:09] trigger or not clear if it's the trigger

[54:11] or the trigger cover. That's not minute.

[54:14] That is a crucial detail in which

[54:16] somebody's going to have to explain.

[54:18] Somebody's going to have to explain why

[54:20] Lance Twigs is not being considered a

[54:22] suspect

[54:23] when his DNA is on everything more of

[54:27] his DNA than Tyler's on the gun. That

[54:29] requires a logical explanation, not a

[54:32] unit of influencers that are taking

[54:34] money trying to convince us of the

[54:36] opposite. This, ladies and gentlemen, is

[54:38] a war for your mind. I think you

[54:40] understand that. And they put me on

[54:42] trial in a variety of ways. And I don't

[54:44] I don't actually care because I'm I'm

[54:46] built for this. I am not going to watch

[54:50] Charlie Kirk, my friend, be assassinated

[54:51] in broad daylight, watch everyone turn

[54:54] their back on him for money and sit back

[54:58] idly and allow it to still go. That

[54:59] doesn't that doesn't work for me. And

[55:00] actually I am so rested right now and so

[55:03] ready for war

[55:05] that they have if the last 9 10 months

[55:09] was basically me feeling weakened having

[55:11] watched that in a state of mourning and

[55:14] feeling like every day I was just sort

[55:16] of coming up for air. They're not going

[55:19] to like what comes next cuz I'm 100%

[55:23] ready for it. And one of the biggest

[55:25] bombshells which we're going to cover

[55:26] when we get back from a break. I know

[55:28] we're over time, but we got to do it. Is

[55:30] Ben Shapiro's admission. We'll be right

[55:32] back. All right, you guys. So, you know,

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[58:59] Charlie Kirk was betrayed. That is

[59:02] evident. He's being betrayed every

[59:03] single day. I I can't wait to get into

[59:06] Turning Point USA and the crash out they

[59:08] had online. Andrew Kovette finally

[59:11] coming up to the surface. Um, deceitful,

[59:14] the Judas, no question, my dream was on

[59:16] point about who he is. And everyone is

[59:18] now seeing his character. So much so

[59:21] that Ben Shapiro actually ventured out

[59:23] to tell the truth about him and

[59:24] Charlie's relationship while Andrew

[59:26] really was going to say that Charlie and

[59:28] Ben were friends. It is actually one of

[59:31] the markers for me that something was

[59:32] very wrong was how instantly involved

[59:34] Ben Shapiro was. I said this on the

[59:36] show. I said Ben Shapiro is acting

[59:39] really weird. He does he never liked

[59:41] Charlie. Charlie never liked him. This

[59:43] is a known fact. Anybody who knows

[59:44] Charlie Kirk knows that he did not like

[59:46] Ben Shapiro because Ben Shapiro

[59:48] attempted to stop Charlie from rising.

[59:50] It's just a fact. Like everybody else

[59:53] when he began his career. Oh, that's

[59:54] cool. It's Ben Shapiro. I'd love to work

[59:56] with him. And then you find out about

[59:57] Ben Shapiro's character and how he

[59:59] operates behind the scenes to stop

[00:01] people. Just like Megan Kelly has had

[00:02] that experience recently. It is just who

[00:04] Ben is. It is how he was raised. Um and

[00:07] apparently it has a lot to do with his

[00:08] father who controls accounts and uses um

[00:13] pen names to write nice stuff about his

[00:15] son and follows him wherever he works.

[00:17] Um there there there is a

[00:19] psychopathology there without question.

[00:22] Now, I kept saying that I don't know

[00:25] how, but I do feel that somehow Ben

[00:29] Shapiro was set up in this. I'll pick up

[00:31] the bloody mic. He races to give a

[00:32] million dollars. The com his company is

[00:34] suffering, but he's giving a million

[00:35] dollars Turning Point USA. Erica allows

[00:37] him to open despite what she knows,

[00:40] which is that her husband didn't like

[00:41] this guy at Amfest. What is going on

[00:43] here? What is actually happening here?

[00:47] Then there was this really strange phone

[00:49] call that I had with Matt Walsh and I

[00:51] did not know that Ben Shapiro was in

[00:52] town on this date when I had the phone

[00:54] call. Um, I'll talk about that another

[00:56] time because we are pressed for for

[00:58] time, but I explained to my team and I

[01:00] made it clear to them on that December

[01:02] day that I just feel like Daily Wire is

[01:05] somehow more involved in this and I

[01:07] don't really know how. Well, guess what?

[01:10] The answer arrived. Ben Shapiro shared

[01:13] something that is stunning. It is crazy.

[01:15] When we left, we were talking about this

[01:18] car ride. Something is not right about

[01:20] this car ride to the hospital, which

[01:23] Brian Harpole is suing me over and using

[01:25] Ben Shapiro's lawyers and Ben Shapiro's

[01:27] brother-in-law to do so. Right. Ben

[01:29] Shapiro lawyers, who have been suing me

[01:30] and my family for years because he can't

[01:33] earn. He has to steal. And the courts is

[01:35] is a great way to do that. Violations.

[01:37] You violated a non-disparage. I'm going

[01:39] to sue you. I'm going to sue you. I'm

[01:39] going to sue you. I'm gonna sue you into

[01:41] bankruptcy.

[01:43] You can't win uh without stealing. Well,

[01:46] Ben Shapiro made this admission which

[01:48] was shocking um about what took place in

[01:52] that very short car ride, approximate 7

[01:54] minute car ride to the hospital after

[01:56] Charlie got hit. Ben Shapiro was

[01:59] receiving live updates from somebody in

[02:01] that vehicle. Take a listen.

[02:03] >> I remember where I was when all this was

[02:04] happening. I was in Los Angeles. I had

[02:06] sort of a breakfast slunch meeting with

[02:09] somebody

[02:11] and my uh I got the news that Charlie

[02:13] had been shot and my security was on the

[02:16] phone with Charlie's security because

[02:17] nobody knew what the hell was going on

[02:18] while Charlie was still in the back of

[02:20] the car and we were sort of getting

[02:21] updates along the way. There's visual

[02:23] timelines that show Charlie's body being

[02:24] carried to a vehicle within minutes of

[02:26] being shot. Apparently, he was still

[02:27] alive at the time. Again, I know that

[02:28] only because my security was talking to

[02:30] his security in the car.

[02:37] Somebody make that make sense.

[02:39] Go ahead. You're going to have to become

[02:41] a conspiracy theorist to make that make

[02:43] sense. This is the the enemy of Charlie

[02:45] Kirk is telling you that he was

[02:48] receiving live updates during seven

[02:50] minutes, critical minutes, while Charlie

[02:53] was bleeding in the back seat while

[02:54] Brian Harpole, let's go back and

[02:57] actually show our diagram. Brian Harpole

[02:59] stipulates that it couldn't have been

[03:00] him that was providing those updates

[03:02] because he was just packing like 40 feet

[03:05] of gauze into Charlie's neck. And it

[03:08] couldn't have been Rick Cutler because

[03:10] Rick Cutler had him. He had the tattoo.

[03:12] He was holding his brother. He saw the

[03:15] tattoo with two hands because the door

[03:17] was wide open because Charlie's so tall.

[03:20] He was hanging out. And there's evidence

[03:21] of that because they caught a police

[03:23] tale. Um then we have Frank Turk. Now,

[03:27] his story, I will say, is a little

[03:28] complicated. We are told he is was

[03:30] praying in the back seat, but also Frank

[03:31] says that he started CPR, but Brian

[03:33] Harpell says no such thing took place

[03:35] because CPR would have been the wrong

[03:36] thing to do uh while he was bleeding.

[03:40] Gets a little Frank Turk is an option

[03:43] for sure. Yeah, Frank Turk is an option

[03:46] of someone who could have been statusing

[03:49] Ben Shapiro's

[03:50] security during this time. We've got Dan

[03:54] Flood and Justin Davis. Justin Davis was

[03:57] driving upwards to 100 miles per hour.

[04:01] I'm going to say he he didn't phone Ben

[04:04] Shapiro's or answer the phone call of

[04:06] Ben Shapiro's security to update him

[04:09] because he was focused on the road. That

[04:11] would make the most sense if the story

[04:12] that Brian Harpole told was true. That

[04:15] leaves us with Dan Flood.

[04:18] Either Dan Flood or Frank Turk were

[04:22] providing updates,

[04:24] but it couldn't have been Frank Turk.

[04:25] I'm sorry. I've lost my mind. Frank Turk

[04:27] left left his kids on FaceTime.

[04:31] I'm so sorry. We're We're playing Guess

[04:34] Who right now. Frank Turk's down. He's

[04:36] down. Remember his phone. He just didn't

[04:39] even realize while he was praying out

[04:40] loud. His kids were just left on the

[04:44] phone on FaceTime because that's what he

[04:45] was doing. So, it can't be Frank, you're

[04:47] down. Bye-bye, Brian. Bye-bye, Rick

[04:50] Cutler. Justin.

[04:54] Justin and Dan

[04:56] in this dark game of guess who.

[05:01] Which one of you guys called 911?

[05:04] Because they've never said who called

[05:06] 911 because the 911 calls that were

[05:08] released show that neither of them

[05:09] called 911. Is there missing 911 call?

[05:11] Why would we not have it? That's public

[05:12] information. Who called 911? Someone

[05:15] called 911 and then called Ben's

[05:18] security or answered Ben Security's

[05:20] call.

[05:21] and provided updates so Ben knew what

[05:23] was happening before the rest of the

[05:25] world found out around 12:38 p.m. By the

[05:28] time that video began making the rounds,

[05:31] it was 12:38 p.m. If you go back and

[05:34] check on X, Ben knew sooner

[05:37] because someone in that car informed his

[05:41] security that Charlie had been hit.

[05:42] Rather than focusing on the chaos of

[05:45] trying to save Charlie's life, they

[05:47] said, "You know what? 911 can wait. Ben

[05:51] needs an update right now.

[05:57] I know what my gut is telling me about

[06:00] Charlie's assassination. I've been clear

[06:02] on the fact that I believe Israel is

[06:04] involved and I've been clear on the fact

[06:06] that there is something very dark about

[06:08] the history of Ben Shapiro. The way that

[06:10] he stalks and obsesses. I've made it

[06:12] clear on this show that it's getting to

[06:15] a point when you leave, when you get

[06:16] fired from a company and for two and a

[06:19] half years they stalk you via the court

[06:22] system. There's something that feels

[06:25] starts to feel dangerous about it. And

[06:26] I've been saying he's too close to this

[06:28] situation. Ben is just too close to this

[06:31] situation for someone who was not

[06:34] friends with Charlie Kirk. and the panic

[06:37] of which a bunch of influencers then

[06:38] tried to come out and persuade the

[06:41] public that this was normal, that they

[06:42] were all receiving up that they're lying

[06:44] through their teeth. Tim Pool is lying

[06:45] through his teeth. He did not receive

[06:48] updates from somebody in that car about

[06:51] Charlie's status. Jeremy Boring, who

[06:53] just wanted to insert himself, jumped in

[06:55] and tried to pretend that it was my

[06:57] security that was was getting those

[07:00] updates. I confirmed that that is a lie.

[07:02] They said they were not on the phone

[07:05] with anybody in that car during those

[07:07] crucial minutes. Okay. Jeremy Boring

[07:09] lied through his teeth.

[07:12] So, who on Ben's IDF Israeli Msad

[07:16] Security apparatus team, former IDF,

[07:22] was receiving updates about Charlie's

[07:24] condition and why? And who was Bench

[07:26] Crew at lunch with? In fact, I'd like to

[07:28] know so much that if somebody can

[07:30] provide evidence of who he was at lunch

[07:32] with, because I have a hunch I have a

[07:35] hunch of who he was with in LA when this

[07:37] happened.

[07:38] I will put up $10,000 bounty on that

[07:41] piece of information.

[07:43] Tips at candace.com. 10,000 bounty. Just

[07:46] want to know who he was at lunch with.

[07:47] So, I don't like this.

[07:50] I know what my gut has told me about

[07:52] this situation from the moment that it

[07:53] took place. I know what beyond my gut

[07:55] and beyond my dreams the statement from

[07:58] Andrew Colbeat it was supposed to be you

[08:00] was it

[08:03] was it

[08:04] is it fair to ask if it's plausible that

[08:07] when Charlie was taken to the Hamptons

[08:09] the the phone call no one wants to

[08:11] address from BBNet and Yahoo is it fair

[08:14] to to ask the question if it was

[08:16] literally supposed to be me who was

[08:18] supposed to be back on tour with Charlie

[08:22] did he did Did he say no to killing

[08:24] Candace Owens?

[08:31] And then did he become a liability

[08:33] because he said no? What did what did

[08:34] Charlie turn down from BB Netanyahu

[08:37] while Erica was there?

[08:39] Again, the people that were present

[08:41] don't even want to acknowledge the phone

[08:42] call. I only got an acknowledgement that

[08:44] it happened from Erica in person who

[08:46] then said, "Oh, he was just following up

[08:47] on a letter that Charlie wrote in May."

[08:49] Really, Bill Aman? put BB9 and Yahoo on

[08:53] the phone and he's just like, "Hey, I

[08:55] got your letter. I want to talk about

[08:56] that letter from months ago. This feels

[08:59] like a good time." I don't buy it, guys.

[09:03] I think this is uh darker than we could

[09:05] ever imagine. I think Baron Coleman put

[09:07] it in the correct terms when he said

[09:09] Charlie said no

[09:12] to something way deeper and darker, to

[09:16] the prince of darkness himself. I do

[09:19] believe that.

[09:21] We're going to find out more. I am on

[09:23] top of that car. Do not stop

[09:26] investigating, okay? All of these

[09:28] sidetracking stuff, these reports coming

[09:31] out trying to say this person, oh, even

[09:33] even looking into this makes you puts a

[09:35] target on. Ignore the noise. Ignore the

[09:38] influencers. They have chosen a side.

[09:41] Okay? They have made a decision to sell

[09:44] their souls.

[09:45] and their reward for that. Selling your

[09:48] soul will be eternal. Okay? Ain't the

[09:52] reward you want, but it will be eternal.

[09:54] Eternal damnation is a reward of sorts,

[09:57] I suppose. That's my belief.

[10:01] Stay focused on this investigation. We

[10:03] will have so much more this week in

[10:04] terms of uh where we left off on what

[10:06] was going on in that car. We got an

[10:08] unbelievable tip about that piece which

[10:11] we describe as looking like cardboard

[10:13] that was in the back. I believe this is

[10:14] what has caused the mass panic, the

[10:16] reports, the influencers attacking,

[10:19] naming me. It is meant to be a

[10:20] distraction, but I feel fortified right

[10:23] now. And I need the rest of you guys to

[10:24] as well. I need everybody to be focused.

[10:26] Go Max. Get more information. Keep

[10:28] pressing. They're already going to allow

[10:30] the trial to go through. Good. We will

[10:33] never get an opportunity to understand

[10:35] what rules over us

[10:39] than right now. Like that. This is the

[10:40] biggest opportunity for us to really

[10:43] stare this beast in the face. Everything

[10:45] is being exposed just as Charlie

[10:49] expected. He said his death would be

[10:52] associated with a wider awakening. And

[10:54] let me tell you right now, my eyes are

[10:56] wide open. Your eyes are wide open. Keep

[10:58] them wide open. Keep sending tips.

[11:00] Again, I am looking for specific

[11:02] information regarding the timing of when

[11:04] the K9 units were around. I know they

[11:07] were eventually uh sent on their way.

[11:09] they were not allowed to enter the

[11:10] courtyard. That also became clear in

[11:12] testimony that they immediately closed

[11:15] the courtyard off to anybody but the

[11:17] feds. The FBI took over that region. So,

[11:19] we can now reasonably assume uh that the

[11:22] PA was telling the truth when he said

[11:24] that the FBI made the call because only

[11:26] the FBI was allowed to make calls about

[11:28] what was going on in the courtyard. The

[11:30] FBI then kept the bomb dogs away from

[11:32] the courtyard. the FBI is evident

[11:36] evidentially to me um in my opinion

[11:38] engaged in a massive cover up. I will

[11:41] tell you that I had a sense immediately

[11:43] that Charlie was betrayed on September

[11:44] 10th. Immediately I said he was

[11:46] betrayed, but I also had a sense they

[11:47] wouldn't get away with it. And I want to

[11:49] leave you with that optimistic note um

[11:51] because we're not going to have maybe we

[11:53] have time today to get into comments. I

[11:54] don't know. We will take a a brief break

[11:56] here and we'll come right back and do a

[11:57] few comments actually. All right, you

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[14:16] The influencers are the mockingb bird

[14:19] media of our day. Like CIA, mockingb

[14:22] bird, everyone say the same thing. I

[14:23] think we all see that now. Uh but it's

[14:26] just not working. So, I guess we're

[14:28] going to come to a point where what what

[14:30] are they going to do? What are they

[14:31] going to do? No one's believing them.

[14:33] They're spending a ridiculous amount of

[14:35] money on influencers. They've lost the

[14:37] crowd because they don't have the truth

[14:39] behind them. It's going to be

[14:40] interesting to see. comments from

[14:41] today's episode. Melissa writes, "I

[14:42] don't care what anyone says. The wait

[14:43] will be worth it." Welcome back from

[14:44] vacation, Candace. I can't wait to

[14:46] listen to this episode. I am wearing my

[14:48] strike a pose hoodie while tuning in

[14:49] tonight. I love you, Candace, and the

[14:51] team. And thank you for all that you've

[14:52] done. The fact that he texted quote,

[14:54] "Some hate can't be negotiated out.

[14:56] People don't speak like that. It's

[14:58] ironic af that Charlie was negotiating

[15:02] with Bobo, I mean BB, and couldn't be

[15:04] negotiated into supporting Israel any

[15:05] longer. I love you, Candace. Thank you

[15:07] so much. And I totally agree with you.

[15:09] It just reads to me like when you're new

[15:11] to a language and you're too formal.

[15:13] That's what it sounds like to me. And

[15:15] like I said, we have so much more to

[15:17] unpack this week. Going back to the

[15:19] investigation. Um I I I do think some

[15:22] heads are going to roll. We will see.

[15:24] Zamut writes, "We are Charlie indeed."

[15:27] Uh new writes, "Don't hold back Candace.

[15:30] You're a last voice that he's got. Go

[15:31] Max Girl." I'm not. It's actually all of

[15:33] you guys around the world too. It's a

[15:35] chorus now. And that's their problem is

[15:37] I may have been maybe the loudest uh

[15:41] because it mattered deeply to me, but I

[15:44] am certainly not alone and I appreciate

[15:46] you guys for that. Amy Riddle writes,

[15:48] "I'm from New Zealand. I have a first

[15:49] class honors law degree and accounting

[15:51] degree, so I am not stupid. I have yet

[15:52] to see any clear evidence, just

[15:54] screenshots and hearsay. But what I do

[15:56] see is highly suspicious behavior from

[15:58] Turning Point USA and Erica. I cannot

[16:00] wait to get into Blake Nef not

[16:02] remembering a lot of important things

[16:07] regarding what he did on the morning of

[16:09] September 10th and the evening of

[16:11] September 10th. That's interesting.

[16:13] We're going to get into Turning Point

[16:14] falling apart uh tomorrow and their

[16:17] blatant lies. Crazy the covering that's

[16:20] going on. I very much sense that they

[16:23] are nervous and it feels like back

[16:26] against the wall lashing out. Um, yeah,

[16:30] I will leave it at that. And it's

[16:31] incredible what what he admitted to or

[16:33] didn't admit to.

[16:35] Tarmac hug. It's all back on the table,

[16:37] ladies and gentlemen. Um, blatant

[16:39] writes, "Greetings, beautiful people."

[16:41] Um, uh, Christos vincet Christos renat

[16:45] Christos impirat Christ conquers, Christ

[16:47] reigns, and Christ commands. And I

[16:49] really need to work on my Latin. Sarah D

[16:52] writes, "Found an Australian article

[16:53] reporting police were investigating an

[16:56] accomplice, but that angle disappeared.

[16:57] Some other stuff disappeared, too. There

[16:59] was some other stunning testimony that

[17:00] we're going to get in tomorrow. Now,

[17:02] Andrew Kulat is reviving it, likely due

[17:04] to growing support for Tyler Robinson

[17:06] throwing Lance Twigs to the wolves.

[17:07] Yeah, I saw that, too. They're like,

[17:08] "Well, what do you guys mean?" Like, do

[17:10] you think that maybe Lance Twig? Yeah,

[17:12] we've been saying for a long time that

[17:13] Lance Twigs is a federal asset. Like,

[17:15] why are you guys acting like all you

[17:17] guys kept saying was, "Oh, they dreamed

[17:19] it." Like, we have not spent hours upon

[17:22] hours upon hours upon for serious

[17:25] research that's been happening. people

[17:27] driving down to locations taking

[17:29] speaking to people. Um, amazingly,

[17:31] Diligent Dennison went and spoke to the

[17:34] waiter uh down at in Penguish. More was

[17:38] going to be coming out about that. And

[17:39] and then they just keep pretending like

[17:40] it's all a joke, like they were just

[17:42] going to keep this up and and and feed

[17:44] slop. Oh, Candace is Miss Cleo. She

[17:47] dreamed it. Oh, look at this old clip.

[17:50] This old clip of Candace making fun of

[17:52] herself regarding thunder and lightning.

[17:53] See, she's dumb. Did you guys really

[17:56] think that was going to work?

[17:58] Who's who's making these decisions in

[18:00] the boardroom? Like, who's the idiot

[18:02] that thinks that that is going to be

[18:04] sufficient enough to stop this

[18:07] investigation? I told you guys from the

[18:09] very beginning.

[18:10] Charlie went out and a light bulb came

[18:13] on. Dreams he was having in 2018 that

[18:16] were vivid. I started having vivid

[18:17] dreams right after he was taken out. And

[18:19] no, I'm not ashamed of them. Keep

[18:20] playing the clips. Keep playing the

[18:23] clips.

[18:24] because this feels so much bigger right

[18:27] now. It's definitely bigger than me.

[18:29] It's it's as big as Charlie predicted

[18:32] it. Like I said, Cheryl Wells writes,

[18:34] "My mom died this past Christmas Eve and

[18:35] was a strong supporter of Israel.

[18:37] Watching this, I hope in heaven that she

[18:38] finally no knows. Thank you for all that

[18:40] you do." Yeah, I I I think about that

[18:43] sometimes too of people who just

[18:45] genuinely didn't understand how evil

[18:46] that nation is and now just so much is

[18:50] being revealed and it's for them. and

[18:51] they don't they don't know how to put

[18:52] the toothpaste back in the tube. Um,

[18:54] Amaramusa writes, "You can't do CPR on a

[18:57] car seat without a backboard." Yep, we

[18:59] mentioned that the order should have

[19:01] been call 911 and stop bleeding,

[19:03] stabilize the neck. Anything else is

[19:04] criminal medical malpractice? Did the

[19:06] team have EMT licenses? If so, we can

[19:09] report them to the licensing board. I

[19:11] think somebody emailed me and said they

[19:12] dug up Brian's and it was from like 1996

[19:15] and that he should have had one in the

[19:17] state of Utah. I mean, we're looking

[19:18] into I don't know if any of that's true,

[19:20] but I would agree with you. Obviously,

[19:22] I'm being sued for saying that what they

[19:23] did was incompetent. And now, when you

[19:24] add a call to Ben Shapiro's security

[19:28] team in those critical moments, I think

[19:30] I have a pretty strong case that it was

[19:32] incompetent what they did. Just looking

[19:34] at the photos of how they didn't hold

[19:35] his neck at all because I think they

[19:37] were trying to hold his shirt. Again,

[19:39] more on that this week. Truth prevail

[19:41] writes, "Missed you the past two weeks.

[19:42] If the trial is televised, you should do

[19:44] a live stream with Baron. There was so

[19:46] much in the prelim that screamed slop,

[19:48] like how the kid with a limped with the

[19:50] limp switched legs. Lance is sus and he

[19:53] seems like a MK Ultra OP. Keep going,

[19:55] Max. I personally think that Lance is

[19:59] blackmailed.

[20:01] Based on the conversations I've had

[20:02] about Lance, he was into some weird

[20:03] internet stuff. Easy person to

[20:04] blackmail. And to get himself out of

[20:07] something, he threw in Tyler Robinson.

[20:09] That's my opinion. I do believe that

[20:12] Tyler Robinson was around campus on that

[20:14] day. I I do believe he was at the Dairy

[20:17] Queen, that he was depositing clothes,

[20:19] um, which could have been his part. I

[20:22] don't know, maybe Lance told him to do

[20:23] that, showing up for his boyfriend. All

[20:26] of that will come out in the trial if

[20:28] they allow the trial to go forward for

[20:31] the next 5 years. That's what trials

[20:33] take. That's going to be the length of

[20:34] the trial, right? And what I mean by

[20:36] that is I believe the judge will grant

[20:37] it, but what I am wondering is

[20:41] are they going to take Tyler out? What

[20:44] is this weird narrative they're now

[20:45] trying I I think Erica's life um if

[20:48] there's ever any danger toward Erica's

[20:50] life, it's not on the basis of what I've

[20:52] said. It's on the basis of what they're

[20:53] now putting out as a narrative.

[20:56] This whole idea um I just I have a bad

[20:59] feeling about that. We're going to talk

[21:00] about more that tomorrow, but I want to

[21:01] be very clear as I always have been. I

[21:04] don't want any harm to happen to Erica

[21:05] Kirk. I have never call called for

[21:07] people to harm Erica Kirk. I don't even

[21:09] believe in the death penalty. I think

[21:11] the death penalty I've always maintained

[21:12] is just too easy for people who harm

[21:14] children. Like I pedophile, they just

[21:16] get like to go to sleep effectively and

[21:19] people have to deal with the trauma of

[21:20] what they've done to them. That's just

[21:21] one example. Um so no, I uh have never

[21:26] called for Erica to be harmed. But the

[21:28] fact that they are trying to

[21:29] aggressively assert that narrative,

[21:31] somebody said to me like, "What if they

[21:32] try to harm Erica and then blame you?"

[21:34] Like that's what it kind of seems like

[21:36] they're planting seeds for. Is that

[21:37] possible?

[21:38] Yeah, it is possible.

[21:41] Desperate feds, desperate measures. So,

[21:44] if I was Erica, I wouldn't be trusting

[21:46] the people around me. I want my own

[21:48] security for sure. These people are

[21:50] dangerous. She knows that.

[21:54] I wouldn't want them to get desperate.

[21:56] And I think they are desperate and they

[21:58] showed that this past week. So, um I

[22:00] will leave it at that. Um this person

[22:04] writes,

[22:06] "Oh, I think I read that. We are

[22:07] Charlie." I got that. I want to make

[22:08] sure I read everybody's comments here.

[22:10] Oh, I think that was it. That is that's

[22:12] it. So, if you would like to support our

[22:14] show, we have merch available on our

[22:16] website as always. You can go to

[22:18] kennison.com. It's the easiest way to

[22:20] support the show. You can sign up for

[22:21] book club. I am, like I said, feeling

[22:23] very refreshed finally for I think the

[22:25] the first time since September 10th, I

[22:27] didn't realize how badly I really needed

[22:28] to take a break. And um yeah, I I I feel

[22:32] I really do feel stronger than ever. I I

[22:34] was just literally sitting in a spa with

[22:36] Carrie and we were just like firing off

[22:38] tweets like like I'm just ready for

[22:41] this. I am I'm built for this. I'm ready

[22:42] for this. I feel like everything in my

[22:44] life has brought me to this moment and I

[22:46] have so much more to share this week,

[22:48] you guys. So, I'm really excited about

[22:49] that. Thank you guys at home um just for

[22:51] your continued support and I see you

[22:52] guys fighting for me especially this

[22:54] week when it the simulation could not

[22:56] have been more obvious. Attack Candace

[22:58] with everything you've got. Okay, great.

[23:00] I'm ready for it. We will uh see you

[23:02] guys tomorrow.

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