Candace Owens Exposes Pressure Campaign Against Charlie Kirk Before His Death and Questions Official Investigation

Well, it's going to be a heck of a Tuesday for 

us, guys. Where should we begin? I'll tell you   this. Something is not right. Something is not 

right. And I am going to need you, whoever it   is that's listening to this podcast right now, 

to wake up because I am telling you, this is not   a battle between left and right. We all thought 

that at some point. We believed that. You're my   enemy. You're my enemy. It is not a battle between 

Russia, Ukraine. I don't care what your political   issue of the day is. What is happening right now 

in the world and what just happened to my friend   Charlie Kirk is a battle of sheer evil versus 

goodness. What do I have for you guys today?   Okay. Well, first and foremost, the indictment 

against Tyler Robinson was just released,   and I have a lot of questions that I think need 

to be answered regarding his trans boyfriend,   Lance Twigs. Well, I just spoke to a family 

member who told me a lot about Lance Twigs because   the media is kind of presenting him as this do 

goodter. You might be interested to know that his   family has a different perspective. Also, Turning 

Point employees are contacting me, a lot of them,   okay? And I am not liking what I am hearing from 

them about things that took place leading up to   that Hampton's event, some changes uh at the 

organization in the months leading up to that   event and what had been happening more broadly at 

the company over the last year. Speaking of which,   Bill Aman, you may have have caught that 

he responded to me about the Hamptons with   a lot of words to really say nothing at all. 

And I want to be clear, I am not done, okay?   I'm coming for everybody. Charlie Kirk's death 

is really just a beginning. So, welcome back. [Music] Let's start with some major updates regarding the 

Charlie Kirk case. First and foremost, what always   stood out to us about this shooting was Decoy Boy, 

right? We're all on social media. We all watch the   news. We have all, whether we wanted to or not, 

witnessed, thanks to social media and the news,   a lot of shootings, a lot of shootings, whether 

it's gang related or otherwise. And I have to say,   I don't know if I'm the only one, never in 

my entire life have I seen a situation when   a shooting happens and then somebody completely 

unrelated to the shooting that just happened   jumps up and down and says that they did it 

and gets arrested for saying that they did it,   implying that they did it. Well, for whatever 

reason, George Zin, who is a 71-year-old man,   was moved to do that, right? Instantly, 

Charlie Kirk gets shot. Suddenly,   the 71-y old man jumps up and creates what is 

obviously some sort of a distraction. Okay,   we have eyes. We can see that. That's 

not normal. He creates a distraction. So,   let's just take a look at this clip of him 

being arrested in the aftermath of the shooting. Well, now it's about to get even stranger because 

since he's been arrested, he's now facing charges   of obstruction of justice because he didn't 

do it, right? Why would you do that? Why would   you obstruct justice in this manner? And now in 

addition add addition to those charges, we learn   that he's been harboring images of child abuse. 

Okay. He has kitty porn. This is the headline. I   can't make this up. Man arrested for allegedly 

faking confession to Charlie Kirk's killing.   George Zinn, accused of obstructing justice, was 

also booked in connection with images on his cell   phone related to child abuse. Okay. So we learn 

from this article that after being arrested 70   the 71-year-old um man for this secondderee felony 

which is obstruction of justice. He was also when   he the police had approached him he was being 

weird about giving them his cell phone. Okay.   So they took him into custody. Um they treated 

him for a medical condition and then they start   asking this guy questions about you know what 

are you doing? Can we see your cell phone?   and he's being really cy about giving over his 

cell phone. They're like, "Okay, we're trying   to get to the bottom of why you would stand up 

and scream, "Shoot me! Shoot me!" immediately   following the aftermath of this murder. Okay. 

And what they discover is that when asked by   an officer, okay, after he like they figure out 

that like he's he's he's not being cooperative,   is that he has images he has images of kitty porn. 

There's no other way to say this of of related   to child abuse on his cell phone. Now, what does 

that tell you about this guy? Okay. What does that   tell you about George Zinn? What that signals 

to me about George Zinn is that I've I mean,   I've read a lot about Jeffrey Epstein. I've read 

a lot about blackmail operations. The people they   tend to go after are people who are into children. 

Full stop. Now, I'm not saying I I I obviously   he's just been charged here, so we I guess we have 

to say allegedly, but that's what's coming out   now that they found images on his cell phone. 

So, this guy who is into this sort of thing.   We also figure out that in the past he has given 

interviews related to September 11th and al-Qaeda.   He is in Utah and he is obstructing justice and 

he also happens to have this totally disgusting   addiction of some description. Assuming it's an 

addiction and that's what he's harboring. He's   harboring child abuse images on his phone. 

That's what I'm going to tell you. That's   my instinct immediately. I don't like this guy. 

That is suspect. Okay. Something to watch. Now,   in terms of this indictment, now that we can 

formally read the indictment, there's been a   lot that's been said that I think a lot of the 

miscommunication is perhaps coming from Governor   Cox. I think he in of himself. I probably should 

look into Governor Cox. I'm not sure why he said   some things that are apparently untrue. Maybe he 

misspoke. I understand there's a lot of pressure   when it comes to this uh investigation. But, 

um I'm going to let's just take us through this   indictment. And I think it's important for us to 

go through it so that we can see the setup here of   what took place on September 10th. Now, first they 

provide basically an overview in this indictment.   It's a probical co probable cause statement. 

They tell us that basically after 33 hours,   they really love saying 33 hours. I don't know why 

they keep signaling that to us. Um on September   11, 2025, when Tyler James Robinson surrendered 

to police at Washington County Sheriff's Office,   that was when it happened. Uh they found 

DNA consistent with Robinson on the rifle   trigger after shooting Mr. Kirk. Robinson hid the 

gun. They're going to get into that. Discarded   discarded the clothing that he was wearing when 

he fired the rifle and he told his lover/roommate   to delete incriminating text messages and 

not to speak with police and also they will   be charging him count six because children were 

present at the time of the shooting. Okay. Now,   to get through this, we are told that the suspect 

after this this shooting took place that there was   a police officer who immediately looked upward and 

realized that he had heard the sign of a a rifle   uh knew that it was obviously coming from the 

rooftops. They then began crawling through the   footage, began crawling through the footage to 

see what had happened. Uh they tell us that this   discovery led to an intensive review. Let me 

go actually back up to this paragraph. Police   reviewed surveillance from the camera that was 

covering the roof and discovered that it recorded   an individual that was dressed in dark clothing 

who had crossed the railing from the public   walkway and dropped onto the roof at approximately 

12:15 p.m. Now, just to very quickly, I'm going   to just tell you according to our timeline, uh, 

we know that Charlie gets shot at 12:23 p.m. So,   they're now telling us that he was on that roof 

since 12:15 p.m. So, he's set he's setting up that   shot. We can assume for about eight minutes. Okay. 

It goes on. Although the individual moved out of   the camera's view for a short time, the camera 

again captured the individual running across the   roof and then low crawling to the area that the 

officer had recognized as where the suspected   sniper had dropped into a prone shooting position. 

After a short time, which matches the known time   of the shot, the individual arose and then ran 

across the roof to the northeast. So, nothing in   here implies that he had uh, you know, taken apart 

the shotgun. That I mean, that just seems to be   now removed from the narrative altogether. It goes 

on to read that this discovery led to an intensive   review of UVU surveillance recordings to attempt 

to track and identify the suspect. Surveillance   revealed the following. That at approximately 

11:51 a.m., the suspect had entered campus from   the north. He is wearing a black shirt with an 

American flag. In its center, a dark baseball cap,   large sunglasses. Throughout the surveillance, the 

suspect keeps his head down and rarely raises his   head enough to get a clear image of his face. As 

he proceeds across the campus, he is seen walking   with an unusual gate. The suspect walks with very 

little bending in his right leg. consistent with   a rifle being hidden in his pants. This unusual 

gate continues until the suspect is seen crossing   the railing off the open walkway and onto the 

roof where he leaves the camera's view. Okay,   so the first thing I'm going to say is they've 

only sent us screenshots, right? We've only seen   a picture of him coming up the staircase. It 

looked to me like both his legs were bending.   I don't see why they don't just release why don't 

they just release this fully so we can make sure   that this is the same person that we see walking 

across with a limp right that footage which   was provided by TMZ. Also, you will notice that 

nowhere in this indictment as we go on are they   going to mention which Governor Cox spoke about 

like first he came in a different outfit. Remember   Governor Cox said he was wearing the light shorts 

and maroon shirt. The implication here being that   maybe he he came to come scout scout things 

to check things out. At first this is him,   but then he comes back in the black outfit. This 

is missing from the indictment. And I'm wondering   why. What is the explanation for that? That would 

be a part of it if you were scouting the shooting.   Now they're just like, let's jump into the guy 

that is wearing black and we're not going to give   you footage. We're going to tell you that this 

is him and you can assume that he slowly walked   up this staircase and was obscuring his face 

from view. Okay. Then it tells us that a camera   later captures the suspect as he runs across the 

roof. Uh he gets into the shooting position and   then immediately after the shot was fired, we 

know that he runs across carrying an item whose   shape is consistent with a rifle. The suspect is 

then seen climbing down the roof. He appears to   drop the item that he was carrying as he hits the 

ground in a controlled fall. He then picks up the   item and runs toward the northeast end of the 

campus. It tells us that's how they then expand   their crime scene investigation. They followed 

his escape path to the northeast end of the   campus where they believe the suspect left campus 

and entered a wooded area. In that wooded area,   investigators found a boltaction rifle wrapped 

in a towel. So again, there was no disassembly.   Uh it's wrapped in a towel, presumably that's 

how he covered it while he was running. The   rifle contained one spent round and three unspent 

rounds. This is consistent with the facts officers   observed at the time of and immediately after 

the shooting. There were no shell casings that   were found on the roof, suggesting a bolt 

action rather than an autoloading weapon,   and only a single round was fired. Okay. Then they 

tell us what was actually inscribed and these are   essentially memes. Hey fascist catch says one on 

one cartridge you've got notices bulge. Uh what's   this on another cartridge? Oh Bella cow. Bella 

chow. Bella chow chow chow on a third cartridge.   And on the fourth cartridge it reads if you read 

this you are gay. Lmo. Okay. They detailed that   the rifle, the ammunition rounds, and the towel 

were then sent for forensic processing and that   the the DNA was consistent with Robinson that was 

found on the trigger and other parts of the rifle.   Uh the fired cartridge casing and two of the three 

un unfired cartridges and the towel. Okay. They   were able to immediately locate the shooter. Um 

they were unable, pardon me, to immediately locate   the shooter. So that's when they published the 

photos of the shooter from their surveillance and   they asked for the public's help. Now we're going 

to get a little bit more of a narrative change.   Right. They tell us that as they continued their 

investigation on September 11th, uh Tyler James   Robinson then walked into the Washington County 

Sheriff's Office and he is accompanied by his   parents and a family friend to turn himself in. 

Okay. Now again, he didn't confess yet, but he's   here to turn himself in. Robinson's mother stated 

the following to police that on September 11th,   the day after the shooting. She saw the photo 

of the shooter in the news and thought that the   shooter looked like her son. She then called her 

son and asked him where he was. He said he was   at home sick and that he had also been homesick 

on yesterday, September 10th, when the shooting   occurred. Robinson's mother expressed concern 

to her husband that the suspected shooter looked   like Robinson. So, she's calling her husband and 

she's going, "Hey, this kind of looks like our   son." And then his father agrees that that looks 

like their son. So, Robinson's mother explained   uh off to the officers that over the last year 

or so, Robinson had become increasingly more   political. He had started to lean more left. 

He was becoming more pro-gay and more trans   rightoriented. That Robinson began to date his 

roommate, which is a biological male who was   transition transitioning genders. We're going to 

get to him in a second. This resulted in several   discussions with family members, but especially 

between Robinson and his father who have very   difficult different pardon me, political views. 

In one conversation before the shooting, Robinson   mentioned that Charlie Kirk would be holding 

this event at UVU, which Robinson said was a   stupid venue for the event. Robinson accused Kirk 

of spreading hate. Robinson's father reported that   when his wife showed him that surveillance image 

of a suspected shooter in the news, he agreed   that it looked like their son. He also believed 

that the rifle that the police had suspected the   shooter had used matched a rifle that was given 

to his son as a gift. And as a result, he then   contacts his son and asks him to send a photo of 

the rifle that was gifted to him. Robinson did   not respond to that. However, Robinson's father 

spoke on the phone with Tyler at that moment,   and Tyler implied that he planned to take his own 

life. Now, his parents were then able to convince   him to to meet at their home, not to do that. And 

as they discussed the situation, Robinson implied   implied is the word they use here, that he was 

the shooter and stated that he could not go to   jail and that he just wanted to end things. When 

asked why he did it, Robinson explained that there   was too much evil and that this guy, Charlie Kirk, 

spreads too much hate. They talked about Robinson   uh turning himself in and they convinced Robinson 

to speak with a family friend who happens to be a   retired deputy sheriff. And at Robinson's father's 

request, the family friend met with Robinson and   his parents and they convinced Robinson to turn 

himself in. Okay. Again, he did not confess,   but he turned himself in. Um and they then 

detail that they tell him, "Hey, look,   also bring in any clothes that you used because um 

you don't want the police to then have to search   the property of your parents. So anything that 

you use, you need to bring over." Uh okay, that   doesn't exactly make sense cuz Robinson is living 

with his trans boyfriend, but that is apparently   Robinson replies that at that moment that he had 

disposed of clothes in different area. So they're   looking into that. Okay, now we're getting to the 

roommate portion, which is very interesting to me,   and I will tell you why. It's interesting to me 

because I obviously have had a lot of tips. I've   had a lot of conversations with people that knew 

both of these individuals. When I say both, I'm   referring to Tyler Robinson who is being indicted, 

um, but also his boyfriend who has not been   indicted. And the conversation that I am having 

is that Tyler's classmates and the neighborhood   are very shocked that Tyler would be first and 

foremost involved in this at all. So right away   they told me, "No way. This guy is wearing the 

same outfit from 33 hours ago because he was very   tidy. He sort of kept to himself, but he worked 

with his hands and he was kind of a good person."   There were no signs here. like this seems to this 

appears uh to them to be like this is a very good   family and that there were certain narratives 

out there that didn't make sense to them like   they could not compute them as it pertained 

to Tyler Robinson. Okay. And they're saying   there's no way if if like they're not saying he 

couldn't have been involved. I I very very much   want to be clear. I believe that Tyler Robinson 

was involved on the basis of this evidence,   but rather that there's no way he could have acted 

alone. that this had to be a part of some wider   plot. Okay. And when I'm speaking to people that 

are close to this situation, what they are shocked   about is the fact that only Tyler could have been 

arrested because it's a different perspective when   it comes to Tyler's trans boyfriend. Okay, Tyler's 

trans boyfriend's name is Lance Twigs. And they   are very shocked. In fact, the people that are 

intimately involved in the situation are saying,   "We thought he was definitely going to 

get charged because apparently, and again,   I'm going to say this, allegedly he had been 

arrested or taken in on the same day." Now,   the media narrative is that that guy was being 

really cooperative. He had nothing to do with   anything. Okay, we're going to go through that. 

And again, I'm going to tell you what his family   is saying. I'm referring now to Lance Twigs. Let's 

get to what the indictment tells us about him.   Police interviewed Robinson's roommate, a 

biological male who was involved in a romantic   relationship with Robinson. The roommate told 

police that uh he had received messages from Tyler   Robinson about the shooting and he provided those 

messages to police. And then it goes on describing   those messages on September 10th, 2025. Oh, wait. 

They're not telling us the time. I don't like   that. I hope that's just you forgot. But I need 

to know exactly when you're saying these messages   were sent. Okay? Because I need to fit them 

into my timeline. Okay? Clearly on the basis of   what I'm about basis of what I am about to read, 

these messages had to have gone out after Charlie   Kirk was shot. If I'm using my context clues, my 

blues clues to put things together. But they're   not clear here. They just say on September 10th, 

2025, no time given, the roommate received a text   message from Robinson which said, quote, "Drop 

what you are doing and look under my keyboard."   The roommate, Lance, then looks under his 

keyboard and he finds a note that states, quote,   I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk 

and I'm going to take it. The structure of that is   weird. I had the opportunity to take out Charlie 

Kirk and I'm going to take it. Okay, that's just   structurally that's not proper English. Okay, it's 

either I have, okay, or I had past tense. Again,   not clear. Police found a photograph of this note 

and the following text a change then took place. After reading that note, uh the roommate texts 

Tyler and he says, "What? You're joking, right?"   Robinson writes, "I'm still okay, my love, but I 

am stuck in a rem for a little while longer yet.   Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I 

got to grab my rifle still." To be honest, I had   hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. 

I am sorry to involve you. The roommate replies,   "You weren't the one who did it, right?" Robinson 

replies, "I am. I'm sorry." The roommate replies,   "I thought they caught the person." Robinson 

replies, "No, they grabbed some crazy old dude   that interrogated someone in similar clothing. I 

had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point   shortly after, but most of that side of town got 

locked down. It's quiet, almost enough to get out,   but there's one vehicle still lingering." 

The roommate says, "Why?" Robinson says,   "Why did I do it?" Roommate says, "Yeah." Robinson 

says, "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't   be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle 

unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to   attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully, they 

have moved on. I haven't seen anything about   them finding it. The roommate says, "How long 

have you been planning this?" Robinson says,   "A bit over a week, I believe. I can get close to 

it." Referring to the rifle, "But there is a squad   car parked right by it. I think they already swept 

that spot, but I don't I don't want to chance it."   Robinson says, "I'm wishing I had circled back 

and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle.   I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't 

bring back Grandpa's rifle. I don't know if it   had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me. 

I worry about Prince. I had to leave it in a bush   where I changed outfits. Didn't have the ability 

or time to bring it with. I might have to abandon   it. And hopefully they don't find Prince. How the 

f will I explain losing it to my old man?" Only   thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. 

What? You're worried about explaining losing the   rifle to your father? Not worried that you left 

the rifle and therefore it's obviously going to   be found out like the only thing that you left was 

the right like the murder weapon. This is weird.   This is very This chain is weird to me. It's weird 

to me that we don't know what time. I don't know   what he means. Where is he stuck here, guys? Do 

you have a clue here? I'm stuck in a REM for a   little while longer. It shouldn't be long until I 

can come home. Is that a typo? I should have asked   you guys. Okay, that's the that's the town. Okay. 

Okay. That's the town. I'm stuck here for a little   while longer. It shouldn't be long until I can 

come home, but I got to grab my rifle still. So,   is he is this happening during lockdown? He 

tells him to to check under and and to see. Oh,   check under quickly and see. And I took care of 

it. And he's where? And now he's giving him an   an accounting of exactly what's taken place. Which 

means if this is right after and they're still in   lockdown, he's what? Monitoring the situation cuz 

this is going to give us a timeline whether they   tell us when these messages happened or not. the 

fact that he already knows that they grabbed some   crazy old dude and that they also interrogated 

someone in similar clothing. We're going to   be able to go back and plot exactly when that 

happened or at least when the public was informed   because this is this this whole correspondence 

is very strange to me. It's very strange to me.   He then is even more explicit. Talk about trying 

to cover your tracks but then explicitly texting   everything to your lover. He says, "The only thing 

I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember   how I was engraving bullets? The effing messages 

are mostly a meme. If I see notices bulge on Fox   News, I might have a stroke." All right, I'm going 

to have to leave it. That really effing sucks. Okay. So, if this is our guy, oh, we're not done. 

Let's finish. Finish. That really sucks. He's got   to leave it. And then he says, "Judging from 

today, I'd say grandpa's gun does just fine."   I think that was a $2,000 scope. And then he does 

a winky face. And then he tells him, "Delete this   exchange." And then Robinson says, "My dad wants 

photos of the rifle." He says, "Grandpa wants to   know who has what. The feds released a photo of 

the rifle and it is very unique. He's calling me   right now, not answering." So, his dad's calling 

him. Okay. Well, the dad, this is interesting. Is   this When is this text chain taking place? Okay. 

Because we just heard that, you know, the dad,   they figured it out the next day. They're making 

it sound like this all happened back toback. Is   this happening over two days? Why not tell us this 

instantly so I can work it into my timeline? Okay.   Are these messages day one? And then what? They 

had no correspondence at all until he jumps right   back in and says, "My dad's calling me. Where 

were you when your dad called you? You guys live   together. Why are you texting at all? Why didn't 

this kid immediately call?" If they're in lockdown   and he needs to go back and get his rifle, right? 

This kid could have, and I'm speaking about Lance,   could have contacted immediately and said, 

"I'm I'm getting a confession right now." I   don't like that we are not being told the exact 

timestamp of these messages because, you know,   my timeline demands it. To close loop on how this 

enters, again, not knowing when this happened,   Robinson says, "My dad wants photos of the 

rifle." He says, "Grandpa wants to know   who has what. The feds released a photo and 

it's very unique. He's calling me right now,   not answering. Robinson says, "Well, since Trump 

got into office, my dad has been pretty diehard   MAGA." Robinson says, "I'm going to turn 

myself in willingly. One of my neighbors   is here. He is a deputy for the sheriff." 

Robinson says, "You are all I worry about,   love. I'm much more worried." The roommate says, 

Lance says, "I'm much more worried about you."   Robinson says, "Don't talk to the media. Please 

don't take any interviews or make any comments.   If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer 

and stay silent. How you guys doing about that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um Mark is going to jump 

jump on and say something. Go ahead, Mark.   Yeah. He's a guy that's always in my ear. Not 

always. I just noticed that around some of these   exchanges there's ellipses above them. You're 

breaking up a little bit. What' you say around   some of these exchanges? There's ellipses above if 

you look really closely. Yeah. And it looks like   they're cherrypicking certain exchanges. So that 

my dad is super maggot just comes out of nowhere   because they picked it from a totally different 

part of the conversation. Yeah, these messages   are clearly doctorred is what I would say. They're 

doctorred. Now they could decide why they're doing   that. Tyler's being, you know, forthcoming. We're 

protecting him in some capacity. I find that to   be unacceptable. Okay. Unacceptable. I want every 

single text message. I want timestamps. It's It   is conspicuous that you are not telling us when 

this was sent because it sounds like it's when   the campus is on lockdown and he's got to go back 

and he's got to clean up and then all of a sudden   we're in the next day when his dad is getting 

clued in after the picture's been released.   They're not telling us that. Okay? And you have 

a right to be a little bit uncomfortable about   that because I'm a lot of bit uncomfortable about 

that. We need full answers. Further to that point,   I find it I have found this strange from the 

beginning that for whatever reason, we're not   hearing too much about this Lance guy other than 

like he's been extremely cooperative. He's handed   over his messages. I'm not implying that Lance 

was involved. I am implying that it's weird that   we're not hearing more about him, right? You're 

telling me he lived with the guy. You're telling   me us now that he's been texting with the guy 

about his plans. They're in love. Is nobody   interested in learning more about this character? 

Okay. So, Tyler's people are saying Tyler's a   good kid. People around Tyler, classmates are 

telling me he's a good kid. So, I go into our   tips box and it turns out that actually Lance 

Twig's family has tried to reach out to me over   the weekend. Obviously, I was in a very agrieved 

state and I was not prepared to even accept that   Charlie Kirk was not on this earth. Okay? And I 

realize that they're saying to me like, you know,   we want to speak with you and there's more than 

one family member that has reached out because we   trust you and we don't trust the media. Good. 

Good by me. They are, it sounds to me, a very   good family. They're absolutely horrified by what 

has happened and they are similarly perplexed by   there not being more out there about the person he 

was living with. Especially because what they told   me and I can tell you this exclusively is that the 

house that Tyler Robinson was living in with Lance   is owned by them. Tyler Robinson is paying rent to 

them. Okay. So they know Lance obviously and I'm   going to cushion this with allegedly allegedly 

allegedly it isn't allegedly that this is his   family members telling me these details but it 

is definitely you know allegedly what they say   until we can hear both sides. Okay, I'm going to 

pull this up because I took notes regarding Lance   because I want to know everything. Okay, Lance, 

um, they told us went to live with his relatives,   so no longer in the house with his mother and 

father. Again, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly,   his parents kicked him out junior year of high 

school because he was problematic. He just had   issues. And at that time when they kicked him out, 

that wasn't exactly what they are saying legal um,   for them to have done that. But again, he went to 

live with relatives and he has issues. They they   say that he allegedly has a lot of issues uh with 

drinking that Christmas approximately three years   ago. Um he almost overdosed. He drank a bottle 

of vodka. Uh they are telling me that they were   there. They were president uh present for this and 

fear began to spread about whether or not even the   family would be able to take care of him because 

of issues that he was having. Okay. He graduates   high school and then essentially the extended 

family says, you know, we we can't keep you in   our home because of his behavior. Just this past 

Easter Sunday, they are telling me that he showed   up um on drugs and he was spouting out of his 

mouth about political stuff. And at this point,   they felt that he could not be around children, 

that they felt that he had become increasingly   more radical, increasingly more dangerous, and 

just sort of off the rails. They said that they   he they're unhappy that the media is presenting 

him in this like manner like he's just this kind   of like soft soft guy or like you know, a person 

that was just transitioning. There's like nothing   problematic. There's no proddding. They don't buy 

the story. Okay. Lance's family is telling me that   they are not buying the current story and that 

they feel that more people are involved. First   and foremost, they say that a lot of information 

should be able to be discerned by his devices   because he was according to them deep web. Okay, 

this is the person that is deep on the internet.   They said that he was quite reclusive, that he 

was always on his devices, that he's always on the   web, and that there should be more information 

that comes from there. Okay. He turned 22,   they told me back in August, and that he was, as 

I said, very into this dark web stuff. I asked   what he was doing for work, like how are they 

how are how are they even able to pay you guys   rent? And they told me that he was doing some 

plumbing work with somebody else in the family.   They told us that Tyler and him had been living 

together for at least a year, that uh they had not   met Tyler despite the fact that Lance had wanted 

to foster that meeting, that they the two of them,   this couple, Tyler and Lance, were living in that 

town home that is owned by Lance's family and that   Tyler was paying rent to Lance and Lance then of 

course was forwarding that payment to them. Now,   I had asked them about another persistent 

rumor that is arriving in my inbox, which   people are saying who live in the neighborhood 

that they noticed some unusual traffic and the   this individual family member said to me, "Yep, we 

are hearing the exact same thing." Uh, that they   would prod that narrative further, but there were 

some unusual traffic, a lot of cars that were seen   uh outside leading up to the shooting in the 

days before the shooting or the week before   this shooting. I'll straighten out that timeline 

for you and get real specific because that's I I   will pin down when exactly this was happening. But 

leading up to the shooting that there were unusual   uh unusual traffic in the driveway where Tyler 

Robinson and Lance lived, cars that were not   recognized in the neighborhood. They this was 

not a couple that hosted people. It wasn't like   they were expecting them to have parties. And so 

other people are saying that that is something   that struck them as odd. There was unusual traffic 

out at this house in the weeks leading up to this   shooting. And again, I will perfect that timeline 

of exactly why and I have gone out to people for   evidence of that. But there were apparently lots 

of different license plates and it therefore   um caused a little neighborhood, you know, 

kurluffle because other people were not able to   park their cars because there were so many people 

that were at this house. Unusual traffic. Again,   we are proddding that narrative. We are taking 

a look at everybody because if I don't feel   good about what we're hearing, okay? And Lance 

Twig's family doesn't feel good about what we're   hearing. And we've got Decoy Boy who's apparently 

involved in some deep internet stuff. I would say   it's a fair way to describe it. Decoy Boy. Okay. 

George Zinn. There's more people involved. That's   what I'm going to say to you guys. There 

is very clearly more people involved. Okay,   this feels to me like a conspiracy. And am I 

emotionally invested in this? Yes. Somebody   said something to you're unstable. Yeah, you know 

what? You're right. I have been destabilized by   watching Charlie Kirk catch a bullet in his neck 

and then being gas lit and told nothing to see   here. We've got people all around him that are 

telling little lies. I don't like this. Okay,   this doesn't feel clean to me. I need timestamps. 

If you're going to be transparent, be transparent.   I'm not saying that you're being dishonest that 

you have these text messages. I am saying that   I need them in my timeline. Okay? And it's it's 

it is just weird that you're giving exact times   about certain things and then suddenly you're 

like, you know what, we don't need to be so exact   anymore and we can just extrapolate what we need 

to tell the public a certain narrative. Okay? We   the public don't need a narrative. We need every 

single plausible detail. If we are ever going to   regain any trust in the authorities post Epstein 

world, okay, we're living in a post Epstein world.   It doesn't fly with us. That's not it you guys. I 

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promo code candace. Okay, so I want to be   very clear here. No one, and I mean absolutely 

no one, outside of my husband and Erica Kirk,   has the power to shut me up right now. That's it. 

Two people. If you got to make an appeal, you got   to go to them. Okay, that's what I just said is 

meant to be a dig to the donors that are making   frantic calls trying to politic this situation 

under control because they know I'm telling the   truth. Okay. Frantic calls from Seth Dylan. Oh my 

god. The truth is that Charlie was under immense   pressure and he was face facing financial threats 

um over his shifting stance on Israel over who he   was hosting um over on from his podcast to people 

that were on stage at America Fest. Dave Smith,   Tucker Carlson. That is reality, my friends. 

Again, want those people to know your money means   nothing to me. I already said no to it. That's 

why I don't care to be in those circles. Make   me persona non gratada. I know what I did wrong. 

I looked you in your face and I said no to your   money. Okay, don't push me or I will name more 

names. What happens in the Hamptons is not going   to stay in the Hamptons. Okay, bring in our movie 

poster. I know what you did this summer. Okay,   you got to add Josh Hammer's face to that poster 

as well because suddenly everybody's talking. So,   let's buckle up for some more indisputable facts. 

Okay. People that were at this weekend suare   uh in which Aaron Wexler sent out some of the 

invitations to they're confirming that Charlie   was pressed. Now, this was a multi-day weekend, 

but they're they're all like, "Yeah, know at every   layer Charlie was facing pressure questions from 

Seth Dylan. There's no way around that truth   that they were not happy with his position, his 

modified position. Uh I have it on first person   account that on the first day of the retreat of 

which there were smaller meetings that took place   and then like you know the retreat itself, Charlie 

presented and he explained uh that he felt that   it was wrong that he couldn't publicly criticize 

Israel. He apparently used an example that if he   tweeted and again we're riffing here but something 

along the lines of Charlie said if I tweeted I   think that BB Netany and Yahoo should resign that 

he would then be unfairly attacked and Seth Dylan   then allegedly he pipes up and goes back and 

forth with him quite aggressively saying like   yeah because that would be anti-semitic. I heard 

that after Charlie left Josh Hammer was upset.   Josh Hammer, I know for a fact was a part of the 

beehive that was swarming him uh about people that   he was having at his conferences. I know for 

a fact. So if you'd like to dispute that Josh   Hammer and release your text messages and pretend 

that you were just what chill and supportive and   thumbs up, cool. I welcome you on this platform. 

Okay? You are allowed to literally sit next to me   and say that isn't reality. And here's how it all 

went down. when I was the greatest supporter and   I never cared about who he had even though I got 

destroyed in debate by Dave Smith on his stage. I   was cool with that. I was I love free speech. It's 

amazing. Okay, I am offering you my platform to   do that. I'm not here I'm not in the business 

of smearing. Okay, I need answers and I don't   like the fact that people are telling small lies 

and they're misrepresenting things. Okay. Now,   as I have said multiple times, what I am 

uncovering here is a response to what I feel was   a severe misrepresentation by BB um and his echo 

here in America, of which I would say Josh Hammer   and Seth are part of that echo. Okay. Uh I am in 

no way attacking that narrative and associating   it with the events that took place on um Utah's 

campus. But I don't like little lies. So, let's   attack this leadup. Okay? Let's attack this leadup 

because there's no reason for BB to have lied. As   I've said many times, we talked about Bill Aman 

a lot yesterday. I talked about BB Netany and   Yahoo. The phone call, the uh do you want to 

come to Israel kind of trip kind of thing that   to me as I've experienced has been a lace threat 

when I was going off the reservation of Israel   by asking perfectly sensible questions. I kind of 

got these invites from people like once you speak   to this person, you'll see things. Anyways, Bill 

Blackman responds to yesterday's episode. Okay.   And I have it. Hold on. I I I actually I printed 

this out. Let me find it. Okay. Here it actually   right here in front of me. There are two ways to 

describe his response. I would describe it either   as a a CVS receipt. You buy one item. Next thing 

you know, you're holding holding 27 pages. You   don't know why. I don't understand. I bought one 

chapstick and here we are. You can also describe   it as like an online recipe. You know, something 

looks good. Lucia online recipe. I want to make   that. You want to know how to make lotas? But 

first, homemade chef Aman has to tell you about   how this recipe reminds him of his bubby's house 

and that Hanukkah that they spent in Israel and   all the kids love it. And and you're like, "Bro, 

just how many cups of shredded potato? Please,   please, just give us the ingredients." This is 

his tweet. I I printed his tweet out on two pages,   okay? I don't know. You got to bring back the 

word count. This Twitter was not me meant for   this. Okay. And because I will not be teaching a 

seminar on or this semester on on Amman's 955word   response, I'll just provide you here with the the 

highlights. Okay. So, he sets it up that he's a   victim of something that never happened. Everybody 

watched my episode yesterday. Okay. I never said   the sentence, Bill Aman blackmailed Charlie Kirk. 

That never happened. But of course, he's doing the   typical like, you know, the Israeli brand thing is 

I'm a victim and let me tell you why I'm a victim.   So, he just sets it up and I don't know why he's 

putting these things in parenthesis of Charlie's   supposed evolving stance. Okay, we can watch clips 

of that in a little bit. It's not supposed and   saying it's supposed. Um, but he then says Candace 

also intimated that I quote unquote blackmailed   Charlie. No full sentence there because I never 

said it. I never said Bill Aman blackmailed   Charlie. There was a file presented. Do this or 

else. Okay. And I wouldn't have said that. Okay.   The first five paragraphs of this neverending 

tweet are regarding how he met Charlie, which is   not something that was ever in contention. Okay. 

I followed Charlie Kirk on X. I admired him. I   connected him. DMs May of this year. Expressed 

interest. We got on Zoom. We talked to this on   Zoom. Okay. you just can just delete it. Nobody 

cares. Not a single person cares. He then takes us   through how the weekend event came together and he 

even provides us with a detailed itinerary of that   event. I mean, I don't I don't know if you needed 

to hear the itinerary. He gets so detailed that he   even has this sentence here where he wants us know 

wants us to know that it was even quote unquote   punctuated by meals. Oh. Oh, okay. That's good 

to know that the event um those who attended it,   the sessions were punctuated by meals. I don't 

care, Bill. I literally don't care at all what   you ate. I I I understand there was an itinerary. 

I just don't care. Conspicuously missing. Okay.   Then kind of wraps it up and he's like, in short, 

this was not an intervention to blackmail Charlie   into adopting certain views on Israel. It was 

nothing of the sort. Okay, buddy. I never said   you blackmailed Charlie. I asked you if this 

moment happened. I asked you about BBNet and   Yahoo. I asked you about whether or not there 

was pressure that was put on Charlie, which the   attendees themselves are telling me that this 

happened. Okay, so what's going on here? Also,   it's rather conspicuous given yesterday's episode. 

And of course, he had a big time in here like,   I shouldn't even respond to her. She's so widow. 

You're a widow. I just love billionaires, right?   They're just so full of themselves. They are so 

Their arrogance matches their bank accounts. Like,   oh, we should all be, oh, he's got billions. 

Let's just take it. Let's just Oh my, well,   he couldn't do anything wrong. Yeah, you you 

need to answer basic questions, and we gave   you an opportunity to do that conspicuously 

missing. Is you not addressing whether or not   Charlie was offered more money and funding from BB 

Netanyahu? Could you help us out? whether or not   BB Netanyahu invited him to Israel as a lastditch 

effort to reaffirm his support for Israel or if,   as I asserted and as I maintain, Charlie was 

being pressured throughout this event about   his viewpoints on Israel and to him, he reflected 

that this felt like an intervention. Okay. Can you   answer those basic questions? That would be great. 

Like I said, it's it's interesting you didn't even   mention BB Netanyahu at all. You can stand up 

to him. Is is does anybody want to jump in and   say no? Yeah. The letter Charlie wrote him in May 

was just like a glowing he just want he just was   overcome with passion and said I love Israel. You 

guys are amazing. You're beautiful. You're we're   going to win this thing and you're perfect 

and doing nothing wrong. Love you BP. I just   find that weird that no one wants to address the 

substance of the claims here. whether or not um   maybe maybe Bill himself has an opinion um whether 

BB lied by severe omission when he mentioned his   last correspondences with Charlie because I feel 

like if Charlie said I don't want to go to Israel   maybe don't bring up I just invited him I guess 

if it was friendly and everything was great and   he was just going to come out and sadly he won't 

be able to make it out here and regarding you know   just the public here if you're trying to decide 

what's real and what's fake whether or not what   we're telling you is real or fake. You can take 

Charlie in his own words. I mean, shout out to   Village Crazy Lady on X. She's a great follow. 

She just reads Bill Aman's diet tribe and says,   "Okay." She goes through the itinary. Bill Aman 

just confirmed that he hosted his meeting with   Charlie on August 4th and 5th. Here's Charlie 

talking to Megan Kelly the very next day on August   6th. Now, how do you think that meeting went down? 

Oh, yeah. Forgot to tell you that. That's the next   day. Okay. That is the next day that Charlie sits 

down and vents his frustration about how he is   being treated. Take Charlie in his own words. And 

by the way, yesterday we only showed one portion   of what Charlie said to Megan on that show. Go 

watch the full thing. Remember, he's with Bill.   He's with Seth. He's in the Hampton. Bill just 

confirmed that gratefully. And then suddenly,   he's overcome with a need to vent about the 

pressure that both he and Megan are facing as   people that have traditionally always supported 

Israel. Let's take Charlie in his own words. Take   a listen. I My contention here is that some in 

the pro-Israel camp are so kneejerk about calling   you anti-semitic or getting deeply offended if 

you say anything that doesn't align with their   narrative that it undermines their own cause. And 

I have to tell you, I find it very irritating.   Um because I do feel like some of us have earned 

the right to have some credibility on the subject   of Israel and don't want to be called those names 

when we have some mild push back on some of the   overreaches whether it's you know whether they're 

winning or losing the propaganda war right now and   my contention is they've begun to lose it and I 

realize it's propaganda coming at us from Hamas   but they their their numbers have turned here in 

America they've turned not so much with Republican   ans a little bit with Republicans but but 

completely with the Democrat party and with   independents they they have shifted mightily from 

at least double digits highs to single-digit lows   now with it with when it comes to approval 

and also with respect to you and I speculated   about this at the turning point event whether 

the possibility of Jeffrey Epstein possibly   being a MSAD agent or asset or affiliated with 

that's been turned around on me too to you must   be anti-semitic What the hell? That's such [ __ ] 

The same people who say you can criticize Israel,   that's fine. We won't call you anti-Semitic if you 

criticize Israel now turn around immediately and   say you're anti-Semitic for even raising that. I 

completely reject that. And I raised this to as a   push back against my friends on that particular 

strain of the aisle to watch it because you   don't want to alienate people who are openly your 

friends by going nuts in your crackdowns on mild   push back on anything related to Israel. Now you 

take it. I'm so I'm I'm so glad you brought this   up and I would second that, Megan. I think I have 

a bulletproof resume showing my defense of Israel   both on campus, on social media to to great, you 

know, let's just say mockery and scorn at times   where I because I believe it, right? I I believe 

in the scriptural land rights given to Israel. I   believe in fulfillment of prophecy. And again, 

I'm not a theologian, but I'm a Christian. My   life was changed in Israel. The spiritual energy 

is so amazing there. I I want them to win. I've   said that repeatedly. And however, Megan, you're 

hitting on something very potent and important.   Now, let me first say I don't want to judge an 

entire group because there's been many people   in the Perisra world that have been very sweet, 

very kind, very nuanced, very Charlie, you know,   you're with us. You don't have to agree all 

the time. However, and I and I will say this,   the behavior by a lot, both privately and 

publicly are pushing people like you and me away.   Not like we're gonna be pro- Hamas. Not like 

we're gonna But we're like, honestly, the way   you are treating me is so repulsive. I have text 

messages, Megan, calling me an anti-semite. I   am learning biblical Hebrew and writing a 

book on the Shabbat. I honor the Shabbat,   literally the Jewish Sabbath. I visit Israel and 

fight for it. And there's another article out in   the Times of Israel today. I could read it on air. 

I was just reading before I got on. Charlie, what   are you doing? Like, why are you What am I doing? 

I'm sorry. Like let's just take a step back here. I can tell you right now from the energy that is 

coming out of him, the energy that's coming out   of Megan is where I was two years ago. Okay? 

I've been there. You can't you can't even lie   to you can't even attempt to lie to me about what 

is pouring off of both of them. I was someone who   spent my life my political life defending Israel. 

Didn't really mean anything to me. It seemed like   a good, you know, argument on its surface that we 

should support them. They're the only democracy in   the least. Okay, now I know that that's not even 

true. But like, who who care? I was just like pro   America and I wanted to focus on BLM and getting 

black America better. And then that happened. I   said one thing and suddenly like whoa whoa. It was 

like they just line up like you're just be It's   like Agent Smith. Okay, it's like Agent Smith in 

the matrix. How many can there be all saying the   same thing? And then they gaslight you. They make 

you think you're crazy because they're like why   don't you understand why what you did is really 

wrong. I remember this. I remember the tweet I   said no person nobody no nation anywhere in the 

world has a right to commit genocide. And I was   suddenly being flooded with messages from people 

all Dave Dave Rubin I remember this. I was like   what did you mean by that? And they're text me 

like we can help you. You can help me what I said   something that made sense like this should not 

offend anybody. Nobody has genocide is not cool   right? Did something change? Where was I? It's 

when you tweeted it and like you could have been   clearer. You should have added that Israel would 

never do that. I'm like, okay, you guys are being   insane. This statement stands. I was referring to 

Brian Mass's remarks, but even if I wasn't and I   just tweeted genocide is always wrong, that tweet 

should always be right. I can feel that energy.   Okay. When you're not sure who your friends are, 

they're starting to gaslight you. They're making   you think you're going crazy for having sensible 

positions. And there's no halfway house for this,   okay? I can tell you that you're either going to 

take being kicked in the chest, okay, and told get   out and then suddenly they're all communicating 

behind your back and just where he talks about   that article, something goes out and suddenly 

it's like, you know, what's going on? They're   they're like trying to make you think you're going 

crazy because you're saying some sensible stuff.   Charlie was at that moment. He says that he is 

receiving messages calling him an anti-semite. So,   how can you lie right now and dispute it? And 

better question, why are you lying? I don't   like little lies. I'm being contacted by a lot 

of people, people that are telling me that just   within 48 hours before Charlie passed away, his 

top Jewish donors were pulling funding from him,   demanding that Charlie take their name off of 

the building that they had donated to Turning   Point. I guess I I can figure out who that is, 

how many people could have donated a building. And   then once Charlie was killed, they said, "Never 

mind. Put it back on the building." Okay. Charlie   himself had alluded to a tremendous loss of money 

coming in. Um, and we'll we'll speak about that   more. More people are going to come out with 

information. This is all inevitable. Okay. And   I'll also point you in this direction. You guys 

remember BB recently was on a PR blitz despite the   fact that he was, you know, fighting this 96,000 

front war because Israel didn't do nothing. Okay.   He was doing a ton of podcasts in America. He 

went on to Patrick Bet David's podcast. He went   on to Brendan Tatum's podcast. He went on to the 

Nel Boys podcast. Anybody find it weird he didn't   do Charlie Kirk show. Homie very quickly told us 

that Charlie was implied that Charlie was penning   love letters to him in May. I just love you so 

much. It's amazing. They were so close. Boys just   hits him up like, "Hey, I know we're fighting this 

97,000 front war because we're always the victims,   but do you want to just come and maybe stay at 

my place for the weekend here in Israel?" Like   that's the vibe that BB was rushing to present 

to the media. So, why didn't you do Carly Kirk   show? I'll leave that as a question for you 

guys. Common sense. Common sense. Okay. I don't   like small lies. And remember, BB started this. 

I am responding to his shamelessness. Shameless   misrepresentation of what Charlie was going 

through and what Charlie was saying because,   and I want to be clear, to me right now, it 

feels, and I'm using a corporate term here,   a bit like a hostile takeover. Okay? Charlie 

builds the company organically on the basis of   Charlie and Charlie's honest ideas. Suddenly that 

company's got a lot of money and Charlie's honest   ideas are starting to change or maybe add more 

color and now he's getting financial threats.   He's being called names. He increasingly uh he's 

being told who and what he's allowed to speak to   and he's taking a stance. He is he's taking a 

stand privately up to these people and then it   doesn't matter anymore because Charlie's dead and 

those very same people who were pressing him are   now doing like very quickly trying to set in 

stone that oh Charlie essentially the energy   is Charlie died for Israel. He's just he's just 

one of us. Nobody ask any more questions. That is   literally untrue and we're not going to allow it. 

Okay. It's just not true. I'm going to give even   more interesting tips coming from TurningPoint 

employees. Something again that I didn't even   realize until they said it. Do you guys notice 

that like Bill Aman says this thing and drops the   itinerary? But I've worked for Turning Point for 

2 years. You've seen Turning Point in the public.   Have you ever heard of Turning Point doing a a 

weekend summit and not publicizing it? In fact,   none of those attendees, you'll remember they 

were taking pictures at in the Hamptons and   all dalled up. There was this whole ring debate 

happening about a girl who had gotten engaged.   I think her name was Sarah Stockton. Um, and uh, 

they said her ring was too small and they called   her a a broke [ __ ] There was this whole drama 

that was happening, which we'll unpack a different   day. Maybe I'll leave today's on this tidbit, 

but those people never mentioned that they were   in the Hamptons for a Turning Point event or for 

a Turning Point weekend, which Bill is saying. Why   is that? Were they told not to say anything about 

being at that event? because Bill Blackman's being   very open about it, but they weren't open about 

it at that time. We'll leave there. We'll just   we will leave it right there. Okay. I will just 

add here that the response to me asking these   questions, it is like if you want to know why 

everyone hates like rabid supporters of Israel,   it's because they never change their tune, 

right? They're like in the comments being like,   "Bill Aman, sue her. Take her money. Take just 

take her money. That's it. That's how we win.   This is what they always do. They threaten 

to sue you. They threaten to smear you,   to liel you. How dare you even ask the questions. 

This is this uh chick. I don't even know her name   is her real name is, but like the gay who's 

straight is how she goes. This is what like   before Charlie died. I'm not kidding. A week 

before he died, this was her tweet to him.   I'm going to show you how sick these people 

are. Okay. Do you have that tweet, Skyler? Oh, okay. Okay. Well, she tweeted this whole 

thread about how Charlie Kirk had to distance   himself from Tucker Carlson. She was one of the 

people creating online pressure. Charlie, you   know, Tucker Carlson has gone a bridge too far, 

you know, blah blah blah blah blah. And Charlie's   going to ruin his company. Again, there's always 

the threat. Always a threat of money. And yes, she   she happens to be Jewish. Okay. And then Charlie 

dies and she's like oh my gosh I can't this person   I was just saying like you know kind of you know 

light little oh they do this or else to pray for   Charlie Kirk and now she's arrived at this Bill 

Abbit thing and just sue her just sue sue that's   how we win we crush them economically we're sick 

of this we are all of us collectively the globe   we're tired of you guys okay it's always about 

money threats all of this stuff it's ridiculous   Do what we say or we'll ruin your life. We're 

going to call up all our friends and we'll just   start writing hit pieces about you and we'll 

destroy you. Do what we say or we'll have you   canled. We'll have your sponsor sit dropped. Do 

what we say or we'll make sure that you're fired.   We'll put pressure that you can't earn an income. 

If you're still not going to listen to us and you   survive that we're going to sue you for everything 

you have. You guys suck. Okay? We don't care about   your money. We are tired of it. This reveals 

who you are, not who I am. The truth should be   enough. I've offered him my platform. If there 

is more you'd like to say, Bill, things you'd   like to clarify, again, my platform is yours. Even 

though I know you're so high flutin and above us,   he even says in that tweet, by the way, he says 

like uh speaking about how much um you know, it   they just don't care about you billionaires. He's 

like, and the fact that she monetized her video,   something along those lines, like talking about 

yesterday's episode, oh my god, how can she read   ads? Oh. Oh. Are you the same Bill Aman that made 

an absurd amount of money while we were in COVID   lockdowns and we couldn't work? Are you the same 

Bill Aman who like turned that into like billions?   I'm pretty sure you are. So maybe check yourself. 

Okay. I'm so sick of this. Nobody can make money   but us. By the way, the person that was in the 

Hamptons, other people that were the Hamptons   that are all talking about this said Bill Aman 

got up and gave a presentation and told them that   they shouldn't own property and they should give 

money to like, you know, stocks. That's how they   can be successful. They just want to rule over us 

all, don't they? Allegedly, that's what he said.   Blackman, you can reply. Did you tell people 

that they shouldn't own property when you gave   your presentation on this now infamous meeting at 

in the Hamptons, which wasn't publicized until I   publicized it? I don't know. I'm just asking 

questions. Are we allowed to do that? Are you   going to sue me? You're going to crush me? You're 

going to impoverish us all? Why are you guys like   this is my question. Laura Loomer in, too. This is 

like how Bill, I guess, wins the argument. They're   like, "Bill gav