Candace Owens Identifies Charlie Kirk's Driver and Exposes Conflicting Stories in Frank Turek's New Book

[00:01] All right, you guys. Happy Thursday and

[00:03] also happy episode 400. I don't know

[00:06] that just feels like a fantastic

[00:08] milestone um on this in independent

[00:11] endeavor. I feel a little bit of

[00:13] pressure to make today's episode

[00:15] special. And Blakey Pooh, I'd like to

[00:18] dedicate today's episode to you,

[00:19] girlfriend, because like totally OMG.

[00:22] Candace is just like upset that Erica is

[00:25] a white woman that murdered Charlie or

[00:28] whatever. What? Honestly, in retrospect,

[00:31] the craziest part of his little rant

[00:32] yesterday was the random insistence that

[00:35] I hate white women. That was just so

[00:37] random. It just felt like a elephant

[00:39] clipping original fresh out of the

[00:42] Latvian nerds factory. Anyway, today we

[00:45] must sentence Blake Nef, right? I feel

[00:48] we must do that appropriately, of

[00:49] course, for the crime of speaking while

[00:53] being Blake Nef. That is illegal. And in

[00:56] this courtroom, the sentence is always

[00:57] the same. Sentence you to more truth.

[01:00] And you know what, guys? Some more funny

[01:03] things happened on the way to the

[01:05] hospital on September 10th. And

[01:07] according to Frank Turk's recently

[01:09] dropped book, did you know that he

[01:11] dropped a book last month? I'm not so

[01:14] sure he remembers any of them. Welcome

[01:17] back to Candace.

[01:33] You know what, guys? Blakey hurt my

[01:35] feelings yesterday. He called me so many

[01:37] names. I mean, he completely violated

[01:40] one of Charlie's cardinal rules of never

[01:43] engaging in ad hominant attacks. I mean,

[01:46] he called me all sorts of things in that

[01:47] ex space. He said I was wretched, nasty,

[01:50] absolutely awful.

[01:52] claimed that I dislike other pretty

[01:54] women. He also called me illiterate

[01:57] thereafter on X. I just feel sad on the

[02:00] inside. I sad, Blake. Why do I have to

[02:03] deal with these elementary insults? I'm

[02:05] nine months pregnant and still the

[02:08] attacks are unceasing. Where are his

[02:11] manners? Now, I'll have you know that

[02:16] I'm actually an exceptional reader and a

[02:18] writer and an effective communicator.

[02:20] But most of all, I think my chief talent

[02:22] is researching, researching and creating

[02:26] official timelines, gathering intel. And

[02:28] you know what? Unfortunately for Blake,

[02:32] I've been researching September 10th

[02:34] extensively, and there are things that

[02:36] took place that day that register to me

[02:39] and the broader public as anomalies. I I

[02:41] just cannot shake this feeling that we

[02:44] are not being told the entire truth.

[02:49] Also, um, Blake Nef, his existence in

[02:52] general, everything about what he says

[02:55] that day. He can't remember what he was

[02:57] doing in Salt Lake City. Why was Danny

[03:00] Phillip Another question I have, why was

[03:01] Danny Phillip driving Blake

[03:04] like he was in an Uber ride? Blake in

[03:07] the back seat. That doesn't make sense.

[03:09] And after Charlie got hit, one thing

[03:11] that I cannot make sense of is why Blake

[03:14] Nef and Danny Phillip didn't just

[03:16] immediately book it to the hospital to

[03:19] drive themselves over to the hospital. I

[03:21] mean, what what other value ad is Blake?

[03:24] You think he's going to help with the

[03:25] investigation?

[03:27] Now, I want to jog your memory here

[03:29] because first we were told by Blake the

[03:32] story about Mikey McCoy's quivering lip,

[03:35] a lip that quivered in a way that Blake

[03:38] would never forget. followed by an

[03:39] intimate conversation with Erica,

[03:41] followed by Mikey transforming into a

[03:44] battle hardened general. Take a listen.

[03:48] It was clear in the moment that he was

[03:51] profoundly freaked out. What I'll always

[03:53] remember is the way his his lip was

[03:54] quivering, which I'd never seen before.

[03:57] And you you very rarely see from someone

[03:59] that he was freaking out. And then I

[04:01] think he literally said to me, I I might

[04:03] be imagining this, but I think what he

[04:05] literally said was he and then he was

[04:07] looking around and then he says, "I I

[04:10] need to call Erica." And he then he

[04:12] takes his phone and he begins calling

[04:14] Erica.

[04:15] >> And I don't want to disclose how that

[04:18] call unfolded, but he did that this you

[04:20] know, your mind extends all of this, but

[04:22] that is happening within

[04:24] >> a minute of all of this occurring. I

[04:26] remember he calls Erica. I around the

[04:28] same time I pull out my phone and I call

[04:30] my mom just to say, "Mom, there's been a

[04:33] shooting. You're going to see it on the

[04:34] news. I'm okay. You know, pray for me.

[04:36] I've got to go." And I remember that

[04:38] call. And around the time I I put that

[04:40] phone away and then he immediately calls

[04:42] his dad. He calls Robin McCoy and he

[04:45] says, "Dad, someone shot Charlie. You

[04:48] need to call all of your pastor friends.

[04:49] Charlie was hit. We need everyone to

[04:52] pray right now." And that's what he told

[04:55] him. And I guess it just it's very

[04:58] disgusting for me as someone who

[05:00] witnessed this who saw Mikey hugely

[05:02] distressed and then step up in the

[05:04] moment because after that was call that

[05:07] call was over I saw Mikey like get total

[05:10] mastery of himself that he realized he

[05:12] had to step up in this situation

[05:14] >> and he from that point he was like he

[05:17] was like a general directing a battle

[05:18] where he was you know grabbing people

[05:20] and saying okay we need to get to the

[05:22] hospital and we need to do these things

[05:25] and you guys need wait here. I need to

[05:27] get in here to get information so that I

[05:28] can get it to get it to Erica. And

[05:32] >> when we when we learned he was dead, it

[05:33] was he came out and he told us and then

[05:35] he says and he says, "Now, none of you

[05:37] can say anything that you've heard

[05:39] because it is Erica is not going to hear

[05:41] about this from anyone except me."

[05:44] >> Okay. So, he's

[05:46] how old, Mikey? Early 20s, right? I

[05:49] think he did like was going to go to

[05:51] Liberty University and then decided to

[05:52] be Charlie's chief of staff. So, we're

[05:54] talking really early 20s. Mikey is uh

[05:57] started working for Charlie as a chief

[05:59] of staff when he was promoted in 2023.

[06:02] And I just always struggled with this

[06:04] version of events that Mikey somehow was

[06:06] the nucleus, right? This kid is I got to

[06:10] figure out what's happening,

[06:13] what's going on at the hospital. I'm

[06:15] going to be the one that communicates to

[06:17] Erica. Who are you? Who are you? Also,

[06:21] who's communicating with you at the

[06:23] hospital? How are you getting firsthand

[06:26] updates from from who? Particularly at

[06:28] the hospital. Um, and when I hear that

[06:32] description, we got to figure out how to

[06:33] he's you've got to go here. It sounds

[06:36] like they were then going to immediately

[06:38] go to the hospital, right? You got to

[06:41] figure out how to get to the hospital.

[06:43] And I, by the way, want to say that that

[06:44] sounds like a journey that would have

[06:45] been really easy to figure out because

[06:48] they had three additional black SUV

[06:50] rentals in their possession. Here's a

[06:53] refresher on that. Here's the map of

[06:54] cars. Okay, now we know that that Yukon

[06:57] Denali is gone, which was being driven

[07:00] by Christopher, but we have a Jeep

[07:02] Wagoner, which was a security vehicle

[07:04] that was being driven by Alex Faria, Dan

[07:06] Flood. We've got the Lincoln Navigator,

[07:08] which was being driven by Justin Davis.

[07:11] You've got another Yukon Denali back

[07:13] there that was driven by Danny Phillip.

[07:15] So, what's the issue? Why do we need to

[07:17] figure anything out? Let's go. Let's get

[07:19] to the hospital. We have no other value

[07:21] here. Check up make I guess you could

[07:23] say you could check on the employees.

[07:26] That's not what they were doing.

[07:29] Then we discovered and revealed to the

[07:31] public that no, Mikey did not

[07:33] immediately go to the hospital. He

[07:34] actually gave an interview, a statement

[07:35] of sorts to a woman from IAK. IAK stands

[07:38] for Internet Crimes Against Children. We

[07:40] had wondered out loud why that would be

[07:42] the correct person to be taking a

[07:44] statement from Mikey McCoy. Is he a

[07:46] child? Is he on the internet?

[07:49] By the way, I can tell you this that

[07:51] woman, that officer has since left her

[07:52] position. By the way, her name is uh Fia

[07:56] Aisi. Fia spelled Fia A. Fuller name is

[07:59] Lafayettea Aisi. And she is no longer

[08:03] doing that.

[08:05] But after that interview with her, what

[08:08] Mikey does is he dips into an SUV

[08:11] presumably to make a phone call

[08:13] someplace quiet. I bet it was noisy. And

[08:16] when he reemerges, it's time to go to

[08:18] the hospital. And I was thinking, still,

[08:21] you've got all these extra rentals. I'm

[08:23] assuming the crew is just going to jump

[08:24] in them. No, that's not what's going to

[08:27] happen. What other options do they have?

[08:29] You're probably imagining. I mean, can

[08:31] we all agree that it would be kind of

[08:32] weird if they instead tried to call an

[08:35] Uber rather than taking these very

[08:37] expensive per day rental SUVs?

[08:40] Doesn't make any sense. It would make

[08:42] zero sense for them not to direct the

[08:45] remaining personal security team to

[08:47] drive them or at least one of the

[08:50] remaining members of the security team

[08:53] to drive them to the hospital.

[08:56] But as we all know, nothing in the story

[08:58] actually makes sense. I mean, the story

[08:59] itself features magic bullets, men of

[09:02] steel necks. It can only continue upon a

[09:06] path of absurdity, right? So, what

[09:09] happens next, I can show you, is that

[09:11] Blake and Danny Phillip reappear upon

[09:15] the scene just before 1 p.m. local time,

[09:18] by the way.

[09:20] Where were you, Blake?

[09:22] What were you doing in all that time? Do

[09:23] you remember where you went, Blake,

[09:25] after Mikey's quivering lip? because

[09:27] Mikey came back. Mikey's giving a

[09:30] statement. Where did you and Danny go? I

[09:31] want you to think about that. I know

[09:33] you're watching. I want you to think

[09:34] about that. In the meantime, I'm I'm

[09:36] gonna explain to audiences what happens

[09:38] after you reemerge with your little

[09:41] group. What reemer you guys reemerge and

[09:43] then what happens is they are escorted

[09:46] by what appears to be federal officers

[09:48] into completely different vehicles. It's

[09:51] like Uber, but where the driver is a fed

[09:54] is the best way I can describe describe

[09:56] it. And I don't want you guys to take my

[09:58] word for it. I want you to watch it.

[10:00] Seeing is believing. Here is Blake at

[10:03] first returning to the scene. You're

[10:05] going to see Danny McCoy and Nate Walker

[10:08] with him. And I mean, not Danny McCoy,

[10:10] pardon me, Danny Phillip and Nate Walker

[10:12] with him. And you're going to pay

[10:14] attention to that top right quadrant of

[10:18] your screen near the caution tape. We're

[10:20] going to go full on this. I'll let you

[10:22] watch it. Take a look.

[10:27] And just so you guys know, we slightly

[10:28] enhanced this to make the images a

[10:31] little sharper on your screen in case

[10:33] people want to download this stuff.

[10:38] You can see there you go. There's Blakey

[10:40] and Nate

[10:43] and Danny and an officer.

[10:47] And that actually looks like that might

[10:50] be Jeff Long. Chief Jeff Long. That's

[10:53] there.

[10:58] You can see the security. There's an

[11:00] open vehicle.

[11:03] Looks ready.

[11:06] Okay.

[11:08] Next up, we find our characters Blake

[11:11] Nef, Danny Phillip, and Nate Walker. and

[11:13] security members Blake Hariff, Blake

[11:17] Gibson, and Charlie's driver, we we have

[11:21] identified as Christopher Roads. More on

[11:23] him later. They're going to begin a

[11:26] group walk toward the back parking lot.

[11:29] It looks it's a um employee parking lot

[11:32] that's just behind the Hall of Flags. Uh

[11:35] and then you're going to they're going

[11:36] to traverse through the admin lot

[11:39] through toward what is a federal car

[11:41] lineup. And I'm calling this a federal

[11:42] car lineup before I show you guys this

[11:45] because the all the vehicles are white

[11:48] and this I have learned is a federal

[11:50] officer thing. They drive these unmarked

[11:53] white vehicles. Um you know what Skyler,

[11:56] let's actually first take them through

[11:58] the map so they can see visually what's

[12:02] going to happen. Okay. So, let's uh get

[12:06] into

[12:07] where the cars are initially parked

[12:10] right there. Okay. And then what they're

[12:13] going to do is they're going to come

[12:15] down. Yep. And you see that's a parking

[12:18] lot. That's going to be right there.

[12:20] That L1 employee parking lot. They're

[12:22] going to kind of run through that over

[12:25] past the tree line into if you want to

[12:28] just kind of make a circle here. Yeah.

[12:29] Like past the admin parking lot. And

[12:32] there there's going to be a ton of cars

[12:34] where you see that roundabout, a ton of

[12:38] like white vehicles all around here that

[12:40] are lined up. Okay, again, this is just

[12:43] before uh 1:00 p.m. We're going to show

[12:46] you that. And I'm showing you this

[12:48] because it's going to be a bit blurry.

[12:51] So, let's uh first do this in a labeled

[12:54] slideshow and then I'll show you the

[12:55] actual videos. Here we go.

[12:59] So, what you have here is there's Mikey

[13:01] McCoy, you have Nate walking toward him,

[13:04] and you also have Blake Gibson, and just

[13:07] behind him, let's go to slide two.

[13:10] You're going to see that's Chris

[13:12] Rhodess, Charlie's driver. That is

[13:14] Danny, very easily identified because of

[13:16] his back, his backpack, and that is

[13:18] Blake. So, they're just behind them. Get

[13:22] to this next slide. This is what I was

[13:24] showing you sort of going toward the

[13:26] admissions lot you and they're kind of

[13:29] all just kind of under that tree. This

[13:31] is the route that they are taking

[13:32] taking. You've got Nate Walker, Danny

[13:34] Phillip, Blake Nef, and Mikey McCoy in

[13:37] this shot. And then making up the tail

[13:39] end, you have Christopher Rhodess and

[13:42] Blake Heriff. And we can go to the next

[13:44] slide. And then what happens is they

[13:46] divide

[13:48] into two separate white vehicles.

[13:52] It's a lot of white vehicles. They

[13:53] divide into two separate white vehicles

[13:55] which are going to we're going to show

[13:56] you vehicle one you've got Mikey an

[14:01] officer

[14:02] Blake Nef Nate Walker and Danny Phillip.

[14:04] And in vehicle two you have the security

[14:07] team Blake Gibson Blake Heriff and

[14:09] Christopher Rhodess. And again the

[14:12] vehicle is being driven by an officer.

[14:15] Now we're going to watch this. I'm sorry

[14:17] if you're listening to this on audio.

[14:18] You are going to have to switch to

[14:19] video. It's a lot happening on the

[14:21] screen. We're going to watch them

[14:23] walking. I've already told you who the

[14:26] characters are. I'm just going to take

[14:27] this full screen. Let's first watch them

[14:30] begin to move away from behind the Hall

[14:33] of Flags. Take a look. So, you can see

[14:36] they're all starting to walk there on

[14:37] the left.

[14:39] Nate,

[14:42] Blake, Blake, a lot of Blakes in the

[14:44] story. Three Blakes actually. And then

[14:46] you see Chris is making up that tail end

[14:48] top left quadrant. Uh, that's Charlie's

[14:51] driver. Okay, now let's go to video two.

[14:58] You can see them coming across that back

[15:00] lot I just described to you. That's the

[15:02] employee lot. You're going to see Nate

[15:05] run up to Mikey. Mikey puts his arm

[15:08] around him. They're walking and you can

[15:11] see Danny is making up that tail end

[15:13] with

[15:15] Blake Nef

[15:17] and Chris.

[15:21] They're going to keep going across this

[15:22] lot and that's going to bring them to

[15:26] the admissions lot where you're going to

[15:28] see them just in the tree line.

[15:35] There we go. There they are on that

[15:38] right hand side. the whole crew.

[15:55] And in the next video, you're going to

[15:56] see that they're going to split and get

[15:59] into two separate white vehicles.

[16:05] There they are. Sorry, I probably put

[16:06] should have put a little circle for you

[16:07] guys, but I think you can see that where

[16:09] they are at least. And splitting to the

[16:13] left

[16:16] are Mikey and Blake Nef and Danny

[16:20] Phillip with the federal officer. And on

[16:23] the right

[16:25] getting into that white vehicle. I

[16:26] definitely should have given you guys a

[16:27] circle there. I'm sorry about that.

[16:31] What I can do is I can play it again for

[16:32] you so that you have it. Well, I guess

[16:33] you guys can rewind and you can see

[16:35] there are two white vehicles and then

[16:39] they're going to take off straight

[16:42] the left hand. Look at that top left

[16:44] quadrant. You're going to still see that

[16:46] that's Mikey and them getting into that

[16:49] white vehicle right there parked on the

[16:51] side.

[17:02] And then they're going to pull off and

[17:04] go straight. And that white car that's

[17:06] behind them is actually going to come

[17:07] around

[17:09] is where the security members the the

[17:11] car that's featuring the security

[17:12] members. Guys, while I'm live, could you

[17:14] mind just circling the two cars they get

[17:16] into for like an on a still somehow so

[17:18] that I can show that to them later so

[17:19] they know what they're looking for um

[17:21] the next time they run it back?

[17:24] That's totally fine. Yeah, take your

[17:25] time. Anyway, so in car number one by

[17:29] the end, as I stated, we have Mikey

[17:31] McCoy, we have Nate Walker, we have

[17:33] Danny Phillip, and what appears to me to

[17:35] be a federal officer given the car. And

[17:38] we can confirm that they went straight

[17:40] to Tempanogus Hospital because the local

[17:42] news caught them arriving. And that's

[17:43] exactly who arrives. And it's about

[17:46] 1:10ish p.m. Take a look at this.

[17:50] >> We have a lot of news still to cover

[17:52] here. We want to show you live pictures

[17:53] which we've just gotten into the Fox 5

[17:55] Atlanta newsroom uh out of Utah um where

[17:59] we're continuing to follow developments

[18:01] surrounding the shooting of Republican

[18:04] activist Charlie Kirk who was on a

[18:08] campus nearby talking to students as he

[18:12] frequently does. He is the leader of the

[18:14] Republican youth movement. President

[18:16] Trump called him instrumental in getting

[18:18] him reelected as president. There was a

[18:21] shooting today and Charlie Kirk's

[18:23] representatives confirming that he was

[18:26] shot and is being treated at this

[18:28] hospital.

[18:30] >> By the way, if anybody recognizes or and

[18:32] can ID that police officer that's

[18:34] walking them into Temponogus who drove

[18:36] them, um, please email us at more

[18:39] tips.com.

[18:42] We would like to identify every single

[18:43] person in this story.

[18:46] My question, however, is where did group

[18:48] number two go?

[18:51] We've got missing security people that

[18:54] got into the separate white vehicle. We

[18:57] have Blake Gibson. We have Blake Hariff.

[19:00] And we have Christopher Rhodess. Can we

[19:01] actually pull up the uh map of the

[19:04] security team so people can refresh

[19:06] themselves on who Blake Gibson and Blake

[19:07] Heriff are. Um Charlie's driver is not

[19:10] in this shot, but you've got Blake

[19:11] Gibson. He's the one with the slick back

[19:13] hair. Um, and you have Blake Heriff and

[19:16] they're in that car and they're with

[19:18] Chris who was Charlie's driver. Where

[19:20] did they go? They weren't driving. It

[19:23] looks looks to be another federal

[19:25] officer.

[19:27] And we don't see them arriving at the

[19:28] hospital with Blake. So, we can safely

[19:30] assume that they didn't just follow them

[19:32] to provide further security. They

[19:34] weren't like, "Okay, we're going to make

[19:37] sure Charlie got hit, but we're going to

[19:39] make sure that, you know, Blake, Nef,

[19:41] and Danny are safe." They're not with

[19:42] them walking into the emergency room.

[19:47] Where do they go? Especially since their

[19:49] rental cars are left behind at the UVU

[19:52] scene.

[19:53] And more crucially, I I just want to

[19:55] point out this is now after 1:00 p.m.

[20:01] What What's going on? If if they're not

[20:03] going straight to the hospital and

[20:05] escorting them and walking with them

[20:06] inside, what's going on? Why are two out

[20:11] of three of those security members, and

[20:13] this is the biggest question, why do

[20:16] they come back wearing scrubs?

[20:20] Remember Blake Heriff um and Blake

[20:22] Gibson are going to come back wearing

[20:25] scrubs

[20:27] that evening,

[20:29] but Christopher Rhodess, Charlie's

[20:31] driver, will not be wearing scrubs if

[20:34] they were all together.

[20:37] Christopher Rhodess, as we know, is the

[20:39] one who mysteriously went up to the

[20:40] rooftop with Nate Walker just before the

[20:43] shot um rang out. And he leaves his car

[20:48] wide open. Presumably, he does not

[20:51] change into hospital scrubs. Why not? if

[20:55] they're all together.

[20:57] I'm starting to wonder and I will do so

[20:59] out loud. Were the hospital scrubs

[21:01] actually even given to them by the

[21:03] hospital staff or did they go somewhere

[21:06] else? Were scrubs in general which you

[21:09] can get your hands on and just purchase

[21:11] handed out to them by federal officers?

[21:14] I'm wondering regarding the security.

[21:16] I'm wondering maybe people have

[21:17] information about that, but I'd like to

[21:18] know where they went. Maybe they gave

[21:20] statements. and they maybe they went to

[21:21] a federal office and gave statements.

[21:25] Also, um I'd also like to ask out loud,

[21:30] wonder out loud why on earth these

[21:33] virtual kids, right, just fresh out of

[21:36] college. Nate Walker is like what the

[21:38] second assistant, he just started

[21:40] working. Mikey McCoy, okay, he's been

[21:42] there longer. He's super young. Danny

[21:44] Phillip just started working in May. Why

[21:45] are they receiving this level of

[21:47] treatment at all? Why? If you're a

[21:50] federal officer and the assassination

[21:52] takes place, why would you be speaking

[21:54] to these first, second, and third

[21:57] assistants,

[21:58] why are they not being immediately

[22:00] forced out of the investigation? If they

[22:01] want to go to the hospital, you got to

[22:02] find your own way there. Why are they be

[22:04] being treated in this way where they are

[22:06] being personally escorted by officers to

[22:11] the hospital?

[22:14] Think of any other scenario, any other

[22:16] event. I've never seen that happen. I'd

[22:19] be like, "Who are you? I'm sorry. This

[22:20] is This is a federal investigation.

[22:23] You're a third assistant, Nate Walker.

[22:26] I'm sorry. Who are you, Danny? Why would

[22:28] I Why would I put you into a federal

[22:30] vehicle?" And don't say, "Oh, because

[22:31] they were witnesses." Tons of people

[22:32] were witnesses. Okay? They're not

[22:34] They're going to the hospital to go see

[22:37] Charlie. How does that make any sense?

[22:39] Who who made that call?

[22:43] that would make sense for his wife to

[22:47] receive an escort,

[22:50] not his third assistant.

[22:55] They're all What are they all listening

[22:56] to Mikey?

[22:58] Are the federal officers listening to

[22:59] Mikey dictate? Okay. Who

[23:03] Who ordained him? I'd like to know who

[23:06] ordained him in that scenario where

[23:08] suddenly he's calling the shots like a

[23:09] general and you have federal officers

[23:12] escorting them to the hospital and why

[23:16] doesn't make sense to me. If there's an

[23:18] obvious answer, please share it. On

[23:20] another note, by now you have probably

[23:22] drawn to the fact that we did make a

[23:23] positive ID on Charlie's driver,

[23:25] Christopher Roads, spelled with an A. R

[23:28] H O A D E S. I also want to be clear

[23:31] that there is another security member by

[23:33] the exact same name that works for the

[23:37] new security team at Turning Point USA,

[23:39] FRG Security. That is not him. Do not

[23:41] email me about him. It's just the same

[23:43] name. Two separate people. Roads is

[23:46] obviously a very common last name. So

[23:48] that's not suspicious at all. Uh but the

[23:50] one we were looking for is Christopher

[23:51] Rhodess. And from what we gather, he

[23:53] appears to be from Texas, and he is

[23:55] working with Brian Harpole. Um I I will

[23:58] leave it at that. He is working with

[24:00] Brian Harpole. Still weird, I will say,

[24:03] because that was the very first person

[24:05] that we've ever tried to identify on the

[24:08] show with so much difficulty.

[24:11] That I know he's involved in private

[24:14] security and in that world, but that was

[24:16] very, very strange. More on that later.

[24:19] I mean, I'm sure some people must have

[24:20] grown up with him in Texas. Uh, if you

[24:22] know anything, I would love to get in

[24:24] touch with Christopher Rhodess. If you

[24:28] can establish some connection between me

[24:29] and him, please reach out. I'd love to

[24:32] get answers as we continue to

[24:34] investigate this. More tips at

[24:36] candacewowens.com.

[24:40] Anyway,

[24:43] your move, Blakey. your move because you

[24:46] just it it sounded like you guys were

[24:48] rushing to the hospital and I don't

[24:51] think that really was the circumstance.

[24:53] Actually, I I can verify it wasn't the

[24:54] circumstance. So, was Mikey coordinating

[24:57] the Fed stuff? Was it Danny? Was it you?

[25:00] Think carefully before you answer.

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[28:20] Okay, I don't know how I missed this,

[28:21] but exactly one month ago, on September

[28:23] 8th, 2026, Frank Cherik published a book

[28:27] appropriately entitled

[28:30] The War on Reality. On that, we can

[28:31] agree there is a war on reality. Now, we

[28:34] might disagree on some of the details. I

[28:35] think the war

[28:38] um is being brought by your ilk. I I I

[28:42] that's how it feels. I don't know. Magic

[28:44] bullets telling us we have to believe

[28:46] it. elephant clipping uh to make us all

[28:51] see a bunch of information, believe that

[28:52] it's organic and it's catching fire. The

[28:55] war on reality I feel is an appropriate

[28:58] title. I don't know if you are the

[29:00] appropriate author, Frank Turk, because

[29:02] I think you are engaged in that war.

[29:05] Now, I want to read you his account of

[29:07] what happened um after Charlie got hit.

[29:11] And you're going to notice that there

[29:12] are some slight changes to the

[29:14] narrative. And when I say slight, I mean

[29:16] not slight at all. Massive changes.

[29:18] Let's read this first excerpt.

[29:21] I hear a loud pop and see Charlie go

[29:24] down. I yell, "No, no, no." as I take a

[29:27] step toward him. But a security team is

[29:29] already there. So, I run along with them

[29:30] to the SUV that we had arrived in.

[29:32] Meanwhile, my son and daughter-in-law

[29:34] are hearing all of this live as I

[29:35] instinctively shove my phone into my

[29:37] back pocket without hanging up. Fearing

[29:39] this would happen one day, I told myself

[29:41] in advance that if it ever did, I would

[29:43] do whatever I could to help Charlie. He

[29:44] was like a son to me. So I crawl into

[29:47] the back of the SUV trying to help in

[29:49] any way I can. Charlie's security team,

[29:51] Justin, Dan, Brian, and Rick, men who

[29:53] loved Charlie, too, are much cooler

[29:56] under pressure than I am. They calmly

[29:58] but swiftly do exactly what they were

[30:00] trained to do. While I'm perched over

[30:02] the back seat, looking down at Charlie

[30:04] and yelling, "That was my special

[30:05] skill." Justin is driving, Dan is in the

[30:07] passenger seat, holding his phone with

[30:09] directions to the hospital. To my left,

[30:12] Rick is in the back with Charlie's head

[30:14] in his lap, and Brian is to my right at

[30:17] the other end of 6'4 Charlie, whose feet

[30:20] are hanging out the open back right

[30:22] door. I'm not sure how Brian manages to

[30:25] stay in the SUV as we yank and bank our

[30:28] way to the hospital. Just got to get it

[30:31] in there.

[30:33] Door open. No sirens, no emergency

[30:35] lights, just raw adrenaline. When we get

[30:37] about halfway there, an ambulance is

[30:39] barreling toward us in the opposite

[30:41] direction from the hospital. We debate

[30:43] stopping for half a second, but think

[30:45] better of it and press on. Justin hits

[30:48] the gas as we barge through

[30:49] intersections like traffic laws were

[30:52] merely suggestions. That's when someone

[30:54] recalls just enough self-preservation to

[30:57] yell, "Let's get us there in one piece."

[31:01] In the back, Rick and I are praying out

[31:03] loud while urging Charlie to respond.

[31:07] All three of us in the back are trying

[31:10] to stop the bleeding.

[31:14] Wait, hold on.

[31:16] All three of us are still trying to stop

[31:20] the bleeding. That's a problematic

[31:22] statement, Frank,

[31:25] because you did not try to stop the

[31:27] bleeding. You've never made that claim

[31:28] that you tried to stop the bleeding.

[31:30] Brian Harpole certainly has never made

[31:32] that claim that you tried to stop the

[31:33] bleeding. Um, this is actually, I would

[31:36] say, in stark contrast to Brian

[31:38] Harpole's account. This is not something

[31:40] that you can tell us that you forgot or

[31:42] simply got wrong or you had different

[31:44] accounts. This describes some someone is

[31:45] lying. Okay. You either tried to stop

[31:49] the bleeding, which we were told it was

[31:51] just Brian. He says he got to work. He's

[31:53] packing the wound. Um, said that there

[31:56] was no CPR, that he's the one that's

[31:58] trying to stop the bleeding. He doesn't

[31:59] even say Rick Cutler is trying to stop

[32:00] the bleeding. So, you wrote in your book

[32:02] that all three of us are in the back

[32:06] trying to stop the bleeding.

[32:10] That's weird. That's wrong.

[32:16] You were supposed to be just praying in

[32:17] the back seat.

[32:19] Now you claim in a published and an

[32:22] edited book that

[32:25] no, you got to work on Charlie. That's a

[32:27] discrepancy that I cannot allow. Let's

[32:29] listen to what Brian Harpole said on

[32:30] John Ryan.

[32:32] >> The problem is we're going down the road

[32:34] and Charlie's so tall that his leg, his

[32:39] left leg is down in the door and the

[32:42] door won't close. And so I'm on my knees

[32:45] with the door open with my butt hanging

[32:48] out of the side and I'm on my knees

[32:50] doing the medical and Justin's driving.

[32:53] you know, we're going 60, 80, 100. And

[32:57] Rick has me across the kit and my shirt

[33:01] so that I can use both hands to do the

[33:04] medical one.

[33:06] >> And so I don't fall out of the car.

[33:08] >> So I don't fall out. And I just look at

[33:10] him and I don't need to say, "You got

[33:11] me. He's got me. I know he's got me.

[33:13] Rick's a brother. He's got the tattoo."

[33:16] And so I was like, "He's got me." And so

[33:19] I just I'm just working medical and uh

[33:22] Frank's praying out loud. Uh Rick's

[33:24] praying out loud.

[33:29] When did you

[33:32] try to stop the bleeding? And how did

[33:33] you try to stop the bleeding?

[33:36] Cuz now we have to imagine that Brian

[33:38] blacked out the entire ride. Like that's

[33:41] the only way

[33:43] for him to have completely forgot that

[33:46] you not only helped to stop the

[33:47] bleeding, but also for the last 30

[33:49] seconds or so, the last minutes, couple

[33:52] of minutes, whatever it is that you

[33:53] said, you also said you provided CPR,

[33:55] but Brian was distracted. Well, how

[33:56] distracted was he? He didn't even notice

[33:57] you were trying to stop the bleeding

[33:58] first.

[34:02] Again, does not make sense to me. Let's

[34:04] keep reading.

[34:07] All three of us were in the back are are

[34:08] still trying to stop the bleeding. I

[34:11] switch to CPR. So, we're supposed to

[34:13] imagine three of them are trying to stop

[34:14] the bleeding. And then Frank switches to

[34:16] CPR.

[34:18] Brian's going to black out at this

[34:19] point. But Charlie isn't there. His eyes

[34:22] are fixed. He isn't looking at me. He's

[34:23] looking past me right into eternity. We

[34:26] burst into the hospital yelling for help

[34:29] into what felt like an empty emergency

[34:31] room. And for an agonizing minute, no

[34:33] one seemed ready. were yelling for help.

[34:36] Then within a couple of minutes, a

[34:38] medical team descend on them. Descend on

[34:40] him. They get a pulse, a flicker of

[34:43] hope. They rush him to an operating

[34:46] room. Okay. So, couple of things right

[34:51] off the bat that registered to me as

[34:53] odd. It's not in a published book. You

[34:55] had no recall or mention of a fire

[34:58] captain doing CPR, which was revealed by

[35:00] the Independent Review.

[35:03] H where where's that part you? By the

[35:05] way, I do want to say I fully believe

[35:07] you on the hospital being empty. As we

[35:11] said, it's been alleged that they moved

[35:14] everybody out a couple of hours before

[35:17] for reasons that are not yet clear.

[35:21] Also, if you're saying, and again,

[35:23] you're writing this, you're editing

[35:24] this, you're thinking through this, we

[35:26] can't, this isn't a simple mistake. It's

[35:28] not like you're speaking it. You you are

[35:30] writing a book and documenting your

[35:32] experience. You say you switched to CPR.

[35:36] Nobody else remembers, but you curiously

[35:39] leave out the fire captain. Who's the

[35:41] fire captain?

[35:43] Who is the fire captain?

[35:45] Where is the fire captain in this

[35:46] narrative?

[35:48] And then you tell us that

[35:51] a medical team descended on him and they

[35:53] they got a pulse. There would there was

[35:54] a flicker of hope. They rushed him to an

[35:56] operating room. I remember learning that

[35:59] that was actually what Brian did. That

[36:01] Brian found the room. That Brian, and I

[36:04] don't think he could do this in two

[36:05] minutes, cut the shirt, got the ready

[36:07] for the defibrillator. That Brian then

[36:08] escorted himself out of the room. I

[36:11] don't know. These details are getting a

[36:13] little bit hazy for me.

[36:17] Let's keep reading. I'm also going to

[36:19] correct a typo in this book. He says, "I

[36:21] embrace Don." This misspelled it for

[36:23] this little section. He's referring to

[36:25] Dan Flood. I embrace Dan Flood, the head

[36:28] of Charlie security, and tell him that

[36:30] this is not his fault. Dan's team only

[36:33] had jurisdiction over Charlie's

[36:35] immediate area. That is a printed lie.

[36:40] That's a printed lie.

[36:43] The local and university police were

[36:45] supposed to have secured the larger

[36:47] areas, including the rooftops. That is a

[36:50] printed lie.

[36:53] Dan later showed me a text confirming

[36:55] exactly that similar breaches of

[36:58] security that we saw in Butler,

[37:00] Pennsylvania tragically came to Utah

[37:01] that day. Rick and I continue to pray

[37:03] out loud. Now, we had showed you um a

[37:06] few days ago when he went on to Brand

[37:08] Tatum show and he said sort of this

[37:11] narrative and then quickly shifted. He

[37:12] said, "Yeah, in the hospital Dan showed

[37:14] me the text

[37:16] between him and

[37:19] um Chief Long." And they said he

[37:21] actually showed it to me a couple of

[37:22] days later. That seems to be like a

[37:23] crucial detail. When did he show you

[37:25] this text? Because it shouldn't have

[37:27] been that soon. We didn't know that it

[37:30] was Lo's rooftop. Nobody at the hospital

[37:32] should have known that the shot came

[37:34] from a rooftop that quickly because they

[37:36] were still investigating. It could have

[37:37] come from the audience. It could have

[37:38] come from the side. Nobody knew anything

[37:40] at that time. So, it would be very odd

[37:43] if Dan showed him that message at the

[37:45] hospital. But, of course, with Frank,

[37:47] the details change. It gets hazy. He

[37:49] says later, we don't know how much

[37:51] later.

[37:53] He continues, "Soon, Charlie's chief of

[37:56] staff, 23-year-old Mikey McCoy, arrives

[37:58] at the hospital. Like Charlie, he

[38:00] carries a maturity far beyond his years.

[38:03] Mikey has already sent a plane to get

[38:05] Erica and is on the phone with the

[38:09] United States Vice President, JD Vance.

[38:12] About 30 minutes after our arrival, the

[38:14] surgeon from the O steps into the

[38:17] hallway where we're all standing. his

[38:19] expressions like stone. He sternly

[38:20] announces, "He's dead." "No, no, I'm

[38:24] sorry. No, we tried everything, just the

[38:26] verdict delivered with all the

[38:27] tenderness of a brick." He then demands

[38:29] to talk to Erica on the phone, perhaps

[38:32] hoping to practice the bedside manner he

[38:35] seemingly forgot to use on the rest of

[38:36] us by delivering the news to the

[38:38] grieving widow himself. Now,

[38:41] when Blake tells the story, it makes it

[38:43] seem like Mikey is the one that

[38:45] delivered the news to Erica. Blake just

[38:48] told us, he said, "No one's giving any

[38:50] information to Erica. I'm going to be

[38:52] the one to call her." Uh, Frank is not

[38:55] clear here as to whether or not uh Mikey

[39:00] is there when they find out the news

[39:03] from this surgeon

[39:06] that Charlie is dead. According to my

[39:08] timeline, Mikey should not have been

[39:10] there for that announcement. So, I'm not

[39:12] sure if this is meant to be

[39:13] chronological,

[39:15] but Mikey and them should should have

[39:17] arrived just after according to our

[39:18] timeline because Victor Marks had

[39:20] already tweeted out that Charlie was

[39:22] dead. Um, announced rather that Charlie

[39:25] was dead onto his social media accounts.

[39:28] And like I said, this just in general

[39:30] conflicts with Mike with Blake's earlier

[39:32] assertion that Mikey was the general.

[39:34] Mikey was the conduit of information.

[39:37] Everything had to come through Mikey and

[39:39] he was the one that was providing the

[39:40] updates.

[39:42] For what it's worth, between the two of

[39:43] them, I believe frank on this. I I I

[39:45] think the surgeon was the one that's

[39:48] that's what I was told that he was the

[39:50] one that called Erica with the news. And

[39:54] yeah, I'm going to keep it at that. But

[39:56] there are a lot of conflicting stories

[39:58] in this narrative, and it makes me very

[40:01] uncomfortable that Frank just cannot

[40:05] remember what happened on the way to the

[40:07] hospital. It makes me uncomfortable that

[40:09] seemingly uh a VIP um red carpet was

[40:13] rolled out for effectively a bunch of

[40:16] just graduated college kids. Does it

[40:19] make sense to me? It makes me wonder why

[40:23] it took so long for them to get to the

[40:25] hospital. And I'm referring to Nate and

[40:28] Blake and Mikey. If you're going to be

[40:30] his assistants, why are they hanging

[40:32] around? And like I said, who ordained

[40:36] Mikey on that day? If the story is true

[40:39] and he was the point person for all

[40:43] things, the question is who permitted

[40:45] that? And that keeps happening. It's

[40:47] like it's like the feds were listening

[40:49] to the team rather than the other way

[40:51] around because don't forget Frank then

[40:52] tells a story that he's the one who told

[40:55] the feds that he'll be taking Charlie's

[40:58] necklace from the car. That's what he

[41:01] said. We actually received a different

[41:04] tip about that necklace.

[41:06] And I'm told it was a totally different

[41:09] version of events that took place at the

[41:10] hospital,

[41:12] not um when Frank went back to the car

[41:14] to grab his backpack and then said,

[41:16] "There it is. There's the necklace that

[41:19] we've all been looking for for some

[41:21] strange reason."

[41:23] But I'm still hunting down information

[41:24] and I want to make sure that I'm 100%

[41:26] when I deliver it. So I will ask anybody

[41:29] regarding Temponogos again if you know

[41:32] who the fire chief was. The fire

[41:34] captain, pardon me, fire captain that

[41:37] administered CPR to Charlie at the

[41:40] hospital.

[41:42] Please, we would like to hear from you.

[41:44] Again, we want people that have

[41:45] information. I know we know how to

[41:46] research and we obviously have it down

[41:49] to a very small pool of individuals that

[41:50] that it likely was. We want concrete

[41:53] information. who was the fire captain

[41:56] that I work with him. I want somebody to

[41:58] say I'm married to him. I'm He's my

[42:00] cousin. He was the one that did CPR that

[42:02] day. That's the information that we're

[42:04] looking for. So, we can confirm. We are

[42:06] down to two possibilities, but we want

[42:08] an absolute confirmation. You can email

[42:09] us more tips@candice.com.

[42:14] Um, we'll be right back after a brief

[42:15] break. All right, you guys. Imagine it's

[42:17] 3:00 a.m. You're fast asleep and

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[44:20] Okay, we have that still ready for you

[44:22] guys. I'm going to show you the still of

[44:23] the two cars that they got into. Um,

[44:27] yeah, there you go. In case you need to

[44:29] go back and watch. So, that one on the

[44:31] left hand side is going to be the Mikey

[44:33] McCoy car, Blake Nef and Danny Phillip

[44:36] to the hospital escorted by an officer.

[44:38] And then we have another officer driving

[44:40] on the right hand side. And we have

[44:43] Christopher Rhodess and the two Blakes

[44:45] on the security team, Blake Heriff and

[44:48] Blake Gibson. And I again want to stress

[44:51] that they

[44:53] Mikey's vehicle goes straight

[44:56] and we were able to track that the

[44:58] security vehicle goes around the um

[45:02] little roundabout there and then seems

[45:05] as if it's heading

[45:08] um the opposite direction. And that bet

[45:09] might be because of where it's parked,

[45:11] but I am left wondering where they went.

[45:16] There are a remarkable amount. You can

[45:18] see all around the roundabout there are

[45:19] a ton of fed vehicles. That's these are

[45:23] that's the police undercover vehicles,

[45:24] fed vehicles, and we know that they get

[45:27] into two of them and pull off.

[45:30] Interesting. Why Why can't the security

[45:33] drive themselves? Why is everyone being

[45:34] treated like a federal VIP on this day?

[45:38] For what reason? Why are they coming

[45:39] back in scrubs? We need answers.

[45:42] And I think we have some answers.

[45:45] Top comments from yesterday's episode.

[45:48] Blake speaking again on a live murder. I

[45:53] meant to say I said married.

[45:56] Okay. Vicle Fairy writes Blake done nef.

[46:00] I love that. Blake done nef again every

[46:04] single time. Little dudet writes. So,

[46:06] Andrew said, "Guilt instead of grief.

[46:08] We're processing our guilt." Erica said,

[46:10] "Grift instead of grit." That is true.

[46:14] Blake said, "Murdered instead of

[46:16] married." I wonder who will be next to

[46:19] make a slip. God does work in mysterious

[46:21] ways. The truth needs no campaign. It

[46:23] always comes out in the end. Absolutely.

[46:26] I agree with you. I can actually show

[46:28] you guys in case you never saw that. We

[46:30] didn't show it on the show when Erica

[46:31] said grift instead of grit while she was

[46:35] introducing the president of UVU, Caleb

[46:37] Chilikut at Amfest 2025.

[46:41] Caleb Chilut, a rising senior and

[46:44] chapter president at Utah Valley

[46:46] University, has been involved with

[46:47] Turning Point USA since 2023.

[46:50] Despite the devastating loss of Charlie

[46:53] Kirk, my incredible husband at UVU,

[46:56] Caleb has persisted with the same grift.

[46:59] Excuse me. Gift. Grit.

[47:02] It has been a long day.

[47:07] Trust me, you're not a grifter, honey.

[47:09] It's all good.

[47:12] Yeah, it is something. When they

[47:15] misspeak, it sure is something. Comments

[47:19] from today's episode. Alaska Dog Lady

[47:20] writes, "Happy 400 from your OG gang.

[47:23] The Qatari money crowd seems to forget

[47:25] hands signed kissandis cups. I have

[47:27] one." and man, I remember that. This is

[47:30] the OG crowd. Way to grind. Truth grows

[47:32] organically. God bless. And St. Jon of

[47:34] Arc, pray for us. Christ is king. Thank

[47:36] you so much for being along on the

[47:38] journey. We have more exciting news

[47:40] about in a bit, but um we're just really

[47:42] grateful for the audience and the

[47:44] loyalty that you guys have given us. Uh

[47:46] Schlay Walt writes, "Someone needs to

[47:47] take away the internet from Turning

[47:49] Point at this point. It's great to see

[47:50] you laughing. I feel like you get the

[47:51] giggles every time you're pregnant. God

[47:53] bless you and your family. We ride at

[47:55] dawn for Candace. You have an army. They

[47:57] have she who must not be named. Everyone

[48:01] who watched my sit down with the Ovan.

[48:03] We had such a great time. I think like

[48:06] already over two million people have

[48:08] watched it. Just been up for two days. I

[48:10] always have a great time with him. He's

[48:11] a wonderful friend. My children

[48:12] positively adore him. They call him

[48:13] Uncle Theo. And uh he makes for a great

[48:16] neighbor as you might as you might

[48:18] imagine. So head over to Theo's channel

[48:20] and support him. Watch the episode.

[48:22] Watch other episodes. He just if you

[48:23] need a laugh at any time in your life

[48:26] and you need a break, Theoan is the

[48:28] person to watch. Theon and Tim Dylan.

[48:31] Uh, do you actually have that clip?

[48:32] Yeah, let's play it.

[48:35] Actually, this is true. I walked into

[48:36] your um kitchen and there was some lady

[48:39] from behind who was like making

[48:41] something on the counter or something

[48:43] and I was like, "Oh, dang. They got a

[48:45] little thicky in here. They got a little

[48:46] little lady from Atlanta working over

[48:48] here." And then I didn't I forgot you

[48:50] were pregnant. He turned around. It was

[48:52] me

[48:52] >> and it was

[48:53] >> I didn't even hear you say that. I'm a

[48:56] little

[48:56] >> No, I didn't say it out loud. No, I

[48:57] don't even

[48:57] >> said it in your head.

[48:58] >> Yeah, I said, "Oh, dang. They got

[49:00] >> And now you said it out loud."

[49:01] >> Dang.

[49:01] >> Girls love you.

[49:03] >> What the heck? Where are they?

[49:04] >> There's a lot of them. I get like text

[49:06] messages. I get Instagram stuff. You're

[49:09] You're in your prime. You got to go out

[49:10] there.

[49:10] >> I got to get out there.

[49:11] >> Yeah. You got to find your You got to

[49:12] get out there.

[49:13] I was going to take a nap later.

[49:14] I'm not now getting on my bike.

[49:18] >> It was like kind of a farmers only

[49:19] dating thing or whatever, but I think it

[49:20] was or not dark. It was darker farmer

[49:23] women or tanned farmer women and you

[49:25] were like the most tan on there or

[49:27] something like that. Yeah, it was just a

[49:29] conservative female dating site or

[49:30] something.

[49:30] >> What? Count on darker farmer women.

[49:33] >> Look, I don't think it's a bad look.

[49:35] >> No, that's so make it sound very

[49:38] negative. It's a good place for people

[49:40] to meet people.

[49:41] >> Why are you on these websites?

[49:42] >> I'm not on them all the time.

[49:47] >> He is absolutely hilarious. Truly. Um,

[49:50] and yeah, thank you to the millions of

[49:52] you guys who have already watched that

[49:54] episode. Um,

[49:56] where was I? Nary

[50:00] Nary, I hope I'm saying that right. God

[50:01] bless you, Candace, your team, your

[50:02] family, and everyone who has come

[50:03] forward to share information. I pray

[50:05] people stand for truth, for truth lies

[50:07] in Jesus Christ. You shall know the

[50:09] truth and the truth shall make you free.

[50:11] Amen. John 8. Everyone, na nona nona's

[50:15] fave five. Candace, I'm so confused with

[50:18] the behavior of Blake Nef, Andrew Kova,

[50:20] and Erica Kirk. It's almost like they

[50:22] don't want facts about what happened to

[50:24] Charlie. Blink twice twice if I am

[50:26] close. Lol. Enjoy the little one. God

[50:29] bless you and yours. I mean, from the

[50:30] beginning, that's what it's felt like.

[50:31] It's like they just never wanted it to

[50:33] be investigated. And people obviously

[50:34] register that as weird. And that's why I

[50:36] say a war on reality is an appropriate

[50:38] title. I just don't think Frank Turk

[50:40] should be the author of that because it

[50:41] they have been the people that have

[50:43] launched this war on reality trying to

[50:45] tell us like no what she's doing is

[50:46] normal everybody or everybody grieavves

[50:48] differently and by not grieving she's

[50:50] actually grieving and it's normal that

[50:51] she's taken over his company and she has

[50:52] no experience and it's normal that she

[50:54] didn't feel any fear right afterward or

[50:57] that she didn't want to keep her

[50:58] children away from it not knowing um who

[51:00] the killer was. It's normal that she

[51:02] forgave the killer and can't forgive

[51:03] Duski. None of it's normal. And so that

[51:07] is the war we're fighting. That is we

[51:09] are the people that are seeing reality

[51:10] for what it is, asking questions, and

[51:13] their response is just, well, we've got

[51:14] the power, and we know people in

[51:17] government. We know the officials. We've

[51:18] got the president on speed dial. We get

[51:20] escorted by feds if to go to the

[51:21] hospital. Um, yeah, that's kind of it's

[51:25] just sort of gross. This is clearly

[51:28] Turning Point 2.0 is nothing like

[51:31] Turning Point USA 1.0.

[51:34] which was a grassroots movement and that

[51:37] people people and students followed and

[51:41] wanted to believe in and believing that

[51:42] the country could be changed. Now we're

[51:43] learning the country can be changed in

[51:45] the most spiritually dark ways. People

[51:48] that are handpicked. It feels like they

[51:50] just kind of put the mightest touch on

[51:51] Erica. Who is Midas? I don't know.

[51:54] Someone in Vegas if I had to guess.

[51:57] Pollo writes, "The more unhinged Blake

[51:59] Nef gets, the more flamboyant he

[52:01] becomes." He does. He's a little, that's

[52:04] the right word. Blake is flamboyant.

[52:07] He's just a girl from the Valley and he

[52:10] wants to gossip with the girls. He is

[52:14] obviously not somebody who could ever

[52:17] take over the Charlie Kirk show. I think

[52:19] that deeply upsets him. Like I said, he

[52:21] clearly had a mother who loves him

[52:23] greatly. Told him that he was talented

[52:25] in ways that he most certainly is not. I

[52:27] mean,

[52:29] Blake is in in a way he's impressive. I

[52:32] would describe him as impressive. He

[52:34] leaves an impression.

[52:37] That's that. That's all I could say.

[52:38] That's all I could offer. Emiline Irish

[52:41] writes, "Keep up the great work,

[52:43] Candace. Sending you prayers and love

[52:45] from Ireland. You are an inspiration.

[52:46] Continuing to shine the bright light of

[52:48] honesty and hope in this rough world.

[52:50] God bless you and yours today and

[52:52] always. Thank you so much for saying

[52:54] that. Um, it's been a journey, but you

[52:56] know, we are we're getting somewhere.

[52:58] And I can't I can't believe that we've

[52:59] got people in Latvia that just gave us

[53:01] everything we need to know about this. I

[53:02] know way too much about the Latvia nerd

[53:05] because all of the Sloohs in Latvia were

[53:07] just sending me this like here's his

[53:08] mama, his data, his where he used to

[53:10] work and think and blink and it was

[53:12] amazing. I just I love that all over the

[53:13] world people are writing in and um we're

[53:16] going to continue to ask you do that.

[53:17] The information has obviously pro uh

[53:19] proven to be fruitful. Uh even if we

[53:21] don't respond, you see that we're

[53:22] presenting the information and crediting

[53:24] our sleuths back at home. Uh, want to

[53:26] remind you guys if you would like to

[53:27] support the show, the easiest way to do

[53:29] that is by getting some merch on the

[53:32] website. Buy yourself a hat. Join the

[53:35] decentralized intelligent agency which

[53:38] operates in every country all around the

[53:40] world. Probably not in Israel, for being

[53:41] honest. I don't think it operates in

[53:43] Israel. Um, but everywhere else it seems

[53:45] that we do operate. And the information,

[53:48] like I said, has been fruitful. I told

[53:50] my priest that I would chill. That's a

[53:52] great hat to wear when you just need to

[53:54] chill and you need to calm down and not

[53:57] do the thing that you want to do. Just

[54:00] take a deep breath and remind yourself

[54:02] that you told your priest that you would

[54:04] chill and then chill. Um, also want to

[54:08] add again just to remind you guys the

[54:10] information that we are looking for. I

[54:12] would love to learn a little bit more

[54:14] about Christopher Rhodess and to

[54:17] establish connection. Maybe he watches

[54:19] the show. Who knows? Somebody knows him.

[54:21] I just want information. I And I'm sure

[54:24] that there are many leads here and

[54:26] questions that I have that can be

[54:27] reasonably answered. I don't know why

[54:29] nobody wants to reasonably answer them.

[54:31] People just want to threaten and file

[54:33] lawsuits and that does not make you look

[54:37] like you are innocent. When you have the

[54:39] option and Candace texts you Brian

[54:42] Harple and asks a very simple question,

[54:43] you can just say no and you instead opt

[54:46] to file a lawsuit and claim. Well, I

[54:48] didn't answer that question four times

[54:49] when I was asked it because I didn't

[54:51] want to contribute to more views. Like,

[54:52] who are you? Like, you think you're like

[54:54] like Selene Dion,

[54:57] right? You You can't even form a proper

[54:59] sentence. I was doing the medical. I

[55:01] feel like anybody that says I was doing

[55:03] the medical should not be doing any

[55:05] medical. Like, if I was going to go in

[55:07] for a surgery and the doctor was like,

[55:09] I'm okay, I'm going to do the medical. I

[55:11] was like, "Ah,

[55:12] no, no, no. You will not be doing

[55:14] anything to me, sir. You will not be

[55:16] administering any drugs. Nothing at all.

[55:19] Get me someone I can speak to. I'm just

[55:21] going to do the medical. Open your

[55:23] mouth. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

[55:24] Dentist. I'm good.

[55:27] Nope. Doesn't pass the sniff test.

[55:29] Doesn't seem like you know what you're

[55:31] doing. Don't even know what you're

[55:33] saying. Anyways, let me stop before I

[55:34] get double sued by Brian Harpole.

[55:37] We will uh we'll see you guys on Monday.