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Candace Owens returns from Wyoming with shocking revelations about Charlie Kirk's assassination. She presents never-before-seen text messages where Kirk predicted Turning Point USA would be the death of him, exclusive footage of chief of staff Mikey McCoy's suspicious behavior moments after the shooting, and details of bizarre phone conversations with insiders. Owens declares war on those she believes betrayed Kirk, presenting evidence that raises serious questions about what happened on September 10th and who knew what when.
Welcome Back: A Trip to Wyoming and Acceptance
Candace Owens opens the show explaining her recent trip to Wyoming, where she finally accepted that Charlie Kirk is not coming back. She notes the irony that Kirk's closest friends, political allies, and the White House seemed ready to move on much faster than she was. Some people, she suggests, may have accepted his death within minutes.
Wyoming held special significance because the first time Owens visited the state was with Charlie Kirk, and the last time she was there was also with him for Foster Friess's funeral. Kirk had paid for her flight to Wyoming years earlier when she was doing the Joe Rogan podcast for the first time, before she had to rush to Kanye West's album release party.
During this trip, Owens reflects on fishing, noting that Charlie Kirk hated fishing despite loving the mountains and hiking. She shows a photo of them fishing together in British Columbia where Kirk's eyes are closed because he was too hyperactive and always wanted to be planning and doing multiple things at once.
The Suspicious Succession Plan
Owens addresses that it has been 47 days since Charlie Kirk was executed in what she calls a public execution. She admits she was deluded in the immediate aftermath, believing she would be fighting for answers alongside Kirk's inner circle including Tyler Bowyer, Andrew Kolvet, Stacy Sheridan, and Mikey McCoy.
Instead, she encountered silence. She was told these people believe the official narrative of a lone shooter with no one else involved. At headquarters, it's apparently business as usual, which Owens compares to LBJ being sworn in after JFK's assassination.
Pastor Rob McCoy announced just four days after Kirk was murdered that Charlie had a succession plan in place. Speaking to his congregation on September 14th, McCoy stated that Kirk was wise enough at 31 to put together a plan for succession and that it was very clear what they decided.
The Mikey McCoy Video Evidence
Owens presents viral video footage of Mikey McCoy, Kirk's chief of staff and Pastor Rob McCoy's son, showing his actions immediately after the shooting. Pastor McCoy claimed he was watching and that the minute Charlie was shot, Mikey called him saying Charlie had been shot in the neck and to pray. He also claimed Mikey had blood all over him, though Owens points out Mikey was behind the tent when Charlie got shot.
The critical evidence shows that in exactly 834 milliseconds from the sound of the shot, Mikey McCoy puts his phone to his ear and begins a conversation. There was no time to dial. Owens tracked Mikey from every available angle and found he remains on this phone call continuously, even appearing on the phone in the background when Charlie is brought to the waiting car.
The only logical conclusion Owens and her team could reach is that Mikey was already on a phone call at 12:23 p.m. when the shot occurred. Going back through footage, they found what appears to be Mikey starting a call approximately 1 minute and 45 seconds before the shot, pulling up his phone and covering his ear.
Owens reached out to both Mikey McCoy and Andrew Kolvet for a statement asking who Mikey was on the phone with, but received no response. She argues that if she were in that position and clips were going viral with people drawing conclusions, she would immediately provide her call log to dispel rumors.
Abnormal Security Measures
Having attended college campus events with Charlie Kirk for six years, Owens states there was not a single living person who spoke at more college campuses alongside Kirk than her. This experience allows her to identify what was abnormal about the UVU event.
The camera operator lingering alongside Charlie at the event immediately flagged as weird. In six years, Owens never had the AV person standing next to her at an event. Sometimes the person wasn't even there, and when present, their job was to be somewhere quiet with headphones making sure audio was good. The idea of someone running a company being mic'd up by this person was completely absurd to her.
When Owens called the camera operator, things got strange. He acknowledged a lot of new things were happening that day. She immediately inquired about the subtle changes she recognized, and he lied to her about multiple things.
Strange Explanations and Excuses
Owens asked to see the footage from behind Charlie's head to debunk internet conspiracies. The camera operator told her he had spoken only to Erika and the feds regarding the footage. He specifically said he secured the footage to prevent Erika from having to relive the moment, which made no sense since everyone can watch Charlie Kirk be murdered repeatedly from other angles.
This explanation made even less sense after Owens saw the footage on FaceTime and realized there was no blood on Charlie, making it the least traumatizing footage of all. The camera operator then said he needed to speak with Turning Point lawyers before releasing footage, though he later admitted he owned the footage.
Most bizarrely, he claimed he didn't know how to send the footage because the file was too large, despite running an entire AV company. When Owens suggested using WeTransfer, he said he didn't want to send footage over the internet because he was worried Google might hack him. Owens found this explanation absurd, pointing out that the footage had already been given to Fox News and CNN.
When asked who he was on the phone with after Charlie got shot, he said he was talking to ops back in Arizona who were watching. Owens questioned this, as they never had people in Arizona watching college campus events. He confirmed this was new, the first time they were doing it, claiming it was because Charlie was ambitious and wanted clips live-cut and posted to the internet faster than anyone else.
The Selfie Video
Sensing Owens was growing suspicious, the camera operator sent her a video she didn't ask for, apparently as some sort of alibi. This video shows he was in front of Mikey McCoy when Charlie got shot. To his credit, he saw Charlie bleeding in a split second and ran, though only a couple yards away to a grassy area.
Instead of running toward Charlie or far away to safety, or calling 911, he took out his phone and began recording himself in a selfie video. In this footage, he announces "They just shot Charlie" multiple times, then declares "He's dead" less than a minute after the shooting, when no one could have known Kirk was dead. There was no instinct to run toward his friend or further away, perhaps because he needed to backtrack and get the cameras, which he does one minute after this video ends.
Owens expresses anger at the reaction captured in the video, feeling it doesn't show appropriate distress for someone who just witnessed their close friend being shot.
A Declaration of War
Owens wants to be explicit about her intentions. She declares she wants war with everyone involved in what she sees as a cover-up. She tells them to write their articles, issue their statements, email the White House, and say whatever they want about her.
She states everything about the situation is wrong and there is no way to convince her and the world that it's normal. She refuses to move forward with any succession plan until they figure out what happened on September 10th first.
Charlie Kirk's Prophetic Messages
While in Wyoming, Owens was writing and praying when she saw a massive bald eagle, which gave her peace. She then felt compelled to go through messages and conversations with Charlie Kirk. She found many messages of him telling her how he would die.
In messages from April 6, 2018, just weeks before Kanye tweeted about Candace Owens, Kirk wrote about sensing something big was about to happen. He told Owens she would be "the iron lady of America" and that he saw it clearly, but added "I might be Moses though. I might not see this whole thing through."
Kirk wrote: "If I tell you the true prophecy that I know in my gut, it's really sad, but I hope it's wrong. Anyway, I am not sure if I will live to see the end of this revolution. I believe you were the piece that God meant me to meet that will finish the fight."
He continued: "Since the beginning of TPUSA, I knew in my gut that I might get wiped out at any time. I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time. Like all the time."
When Owens suggested this was more fear manifestation than actualization, Kirk responded: "I'm not really afraid of it, but I'm just telling you what I know to be true."
Owens explains she doesn't know why Charlie knew he was going to die young, but spiritually, the moment he got shot, she knew he was betrayed as part of something bigger.
A Call to Come Clean
Owens recommends that people who betrayed Charlie come clean. She believes this story will have a happy ending despite being a tragedy, and the world will learn the truth. She warns there are lines being drawn between good and evil, and many have picked the evil side.
She addresses podcasters and people making videos telling others not to look at evidence, recommending they stop. To those who betrayed Kirk but are scared, she says they should have the right kind of fear: fear of God, which is the beginning of wisdom.
Owens states she has chosen to be on the side of goodness and truth no matter the cost. She doesn't care about the articles or tweets that will come, as they inspire her now.
Death, Fame, and Infamy
Owens shares a conversation she had with Charlie Kirk about the death penalty. She told him she has always been against it, not entirely for theological reasons, but because death is easy. She believes people who commit grave evil deserve more than simply ceasing to exist.
She warns people involved at different stages, or those who know things but are remaining silent, that if they choose not to come clean, they are about to become very famous through the ages. She's talking about the kind of fame that kills a name, like Judas or Adolf, where nobody names their children that anymore.
She suggests there's a way out if people come clean and get right with God.
Charlie's David
Owens addresses those trying to shut her up, stating they would have more success trying to stop the sun from rising than getting her to stop talking about who killed Charlie Kirk. She emphasizes that Kirk knew he was going to die and knew she would be the person with the spine to stand up for him.
What Kirk didn't know, Owens believes, was that millions of people around the world who don't have microphones, podcasts, or the ability to write articles would stand by him on the side of goodness. She promises they will see this through and there will be justice, not the fake kind, but actual justice.
The Power of Truth
Owens reflects on how she barely had to defend herself as attacks and lies came from various sources claiming she didn't speak to Kirk since 2017, didn't know him, and hadn't seen him. Nobody from Turning Point defended her to say the claims were lies.
Yet the public didn't believe the attacks for a single second. Despite the money spent on telling lies, Owens barely had to defend herself because people knew she was telling the truth. She sees this as a testament to God and to truth itself.
She references Ian Carroll's point that the truth doesn't need to be repeated over and over again because of the power of the frequency of truth. She explains that lies demand the truth shut up, which is why speech laws get passed. When people speak truth, it becomes more powerful.
Owens calls on everyone to speak the truth even if fearful of consequences, because the bigger consequence is not being right with God when they pass. She believes Charlie sent his energy where it needed to be, and she will continue fighting for truth and justice in his memory.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Monday. I am back.
I know you guys missed me because I definitely missed you more. And I feel so much better after
getting out to the mountains. I've now, I think, officially accepted that Charlie Kirk is not
coming back. And somehow it took me longer to get there. Took me longer to accept that fact
than it did many others. Some people accepted it within just a matter of days. his quote unquote
closest friends, his closest political allies, the White House, they all seemed kind of ready
to move on so much faster than I was. And now it's looking like some people even may have
accepted Charlie's death within minutes. There is a video that is currently circulating of his
chief of staff, Mikey McCoy. It's going viral uh for a lot of reasons. We're going to go through
that video and buckle up because I have an even more exclusive, never-before seen video that I
think is going to make your skin crawl. Plus, I have even more neverbeforeseen text messages
from Charlie Kirk. Incredibly, Charlie Kirk did in fact know that Turning Point was going to
be the death of him, and I have proof of that. He also knew that I was the only person who
was going to step up to defend him after he was gone. That sounds crazy, but it's the truth.
So, let's get started and welcome back to Candace. [Music] So, here is where I was. I went to Wyoming to
breathe, to hike, to listen to way too much Kanye West music. I absolutely love the mountains.
I am a mountain person, so to speak. Wyoming is, in fact, my favorite state in the union. Um, and
it felt fitting also because the first time I ever visited Wyoming, I was with Charlie Kirk. I then
visited Wyoming many times thereafter over the years. and he was the last time I went to Wyoming
I was with Charlie Kirk who was the last person I visited with and it was for um ironically Foster
F's funeral who was a big- time donor to Turning Point USA still is I believe uh Charlie I was
thinking out there and remembering paid for my flight to Wyoming. I had to get there very
quickly because I was doing um Joe Rogan's podcast. It was huge. I didn't even know what the
Joe Rogan podcast was at that moment. That's how I was so not politically inclined at all. And he's
like, "This is the biggest podcast. You got to do this." I completely bombed it, by the way. I
was so nervous. I think I said like about 3,000 times. But then I had to very quickly get over
to Wyoming because Kanye had invited me to his album release party. And again, ironically, where
he held that album release party would be where years later Foster Free would have his funeral.
And so Wyoming felt fitting. fished while I was out there. And so I want you guys to know another
fun fact about Charlie Kirk. He hated fishing. He absolutely loved the mountain. He loved hiking.
He was quite the athlete, but he hated fishing. It just was not his thing. In the same way that
golf is just not my thing. Fishing was not his. And this photo that I'm about to show you makes me
laugh because we were in British Columbia fishing. And here's a photo of me and Charlie. Um, and I
was so excited about this catch. Charlie's eyes are closed here. And as soon as I think it was Don
Jr. It might have been Cory Lundowski hit Flash um took the picture. Charlie just went gh I don't
know why you guys like this because he was too hyperactive. He always wanted to be planning
and doing a million things at once. And fishing fishing takes time. You got to set the bait. It's
now been 47 days since my friend Charlie Kirk was executed in front of the world because that's what
it was, a public execution. And call me crazy, many people do. But I was so clearly deluded in
the immediate aftermath of his death that I was operating under this function. I mean, I truly
believed that I would be fighting for answers to what actually happened on 910 alongside Charlie's
inner circle. I thought the band maybe was going to get back together. We were all going to
maybe be on a group chat. Me, Tyler Boyer, Andrew Kovette, Stacy Sheridan. Even if you're
wondering who Stacy Sheridan is, by the way, she's the one who's holding the camera when
Charlie's casket is being escorted off of Air Force 2. She's like the chief money person
essentially at Turning Point USA. She was brought in to reel in the big donors. I remember
exactly when that happened. All of those people, by the way, were actually brought in by Tyler
Boyer. He's a very important character in the story, but we're going to get into all of
that tomorrow. The point that I'm making here is that I had assumed clearly wrongly that
we'd all maybe be on a group chat communicating, raising hell and demanding answers from the feds,
from the police, from the White House even. Uh certainly at the very least pointing out the
very many holes in this story. And if any of us, any one of us had the audacity or the desire
to carry on Charlie Kirk's show, that would be the appropriate venue for asking those sorts of
questions. But no, I was wrong. Silence. Silence is what we were met with. In fact, I am told that
these people believe the official narrative. Lone shooter. No one else involved. Just a crazy guy
with too many pronouns in his bio. Hey, 1963 called and they want their narrative back. All
that's missing from the story is a grassy null, right? Just need a grassy null. Anyways, back at
headquarters, I am told it's business as usual and it's kind of giving me like I don't know, LBJ
when he gets sworn in in that famous picture. Uh, unfortunately sworn in. Unfortunately,
of course, he's sad in this photo. Gosh, he's obviously not wanting to be the president of
the United States. JFK was shot and killed and now LBJ has to step up unfortunately. But I got to
be honest, I wasn't there. I don't think LBJ was actually that upset. I don't know why. Vibes, the
vibes just aren't vibing for me in that picture, but maybe maybe he was. Maybe the truth is that
LBJ simply to use an expression had his wits about him and JFK had a plan. Like in the event that he
had been horrifically assassinated in front of the world, JFK maybe had a succession plan. Now, if
these terms I'm using here sound familiar to you, it's because they should sound familiar. It's
the exact terminology that was utilized by Pastor Rob McCoy just 4 days after Charlie
was murdered. In front of his congregation, he spoke about Charlie's succession plan that
he was somehow privy to. I don't know why, but he knew 4 days later and announced to the world
that Charlie indeed had a plan. Take a listen. Everyone's worried about the leadership of TPUSA.
Don't. He was wise enough at 31 to put together a plan for succession. It's very clear what
they decided and they're implementing it now. Amazing. I mean, amazing. So, on September 14th,
we were made aware of this succession plan. And I find that to be fascinating. Uh the people who
didn't even know Charlie all around the world seem to be fighting harder for him, fighting harder
for truth. And it is in fact thanks to people on the internet like Sam Parker, uh James Lee, Ian
Carol, Zeb Boyin, uh many others that a video from September 10th has gone pretty viral. Okay, so
uh let's take a look at this. It's a video of, of course, Pastor Rob McCoy's son. His name is
Mike McCoy. And you're going to see what he does. Not in the seconds following Charlie getting
shot, but in less than one second after Charlie gets shot. There were these are not seconds.
Less than 1 second, you're going to watch what Michael McCoy does. First, let's hear his daddy's
version of the events. Take it away, Pastor McCoy. as a father, I just I want to protect my
son. And I thought, I I got a plan for you, son. He said, "Dad, that's not Charlie's
plan." And and you know what? I'm looking at my son who's 24 years old. Justin's
the chief CFO, chief financial officer, and Mikey's the chief of staff. And and I'm
watching that the minute Charlie was shot, he called me, says, "Dad, Charlie's been shot
in the neck. Please call every pastor and pray. It's okay, son. He has wits about him. He was
just directing. He had blood all over him. And two things I want you to remember here.
You may have caught that, but he said, "I was watching." And the minute Charlie got shot,
he called. And and Mikey McCoy says to his dad, "Charlie's been shot. Pray for him. He says the
minute. Maybe he's being a little hyperbolic. We're going to find out. I'd certainly like
to find out. But he stops himself. He says, "I was watching." Watching what exactly. What were
you watching? I remember that. It's rubbing me the wrong way. And I'm going to tell you why that
rubbing me the wrong way in a little bit. But the bigger thing is that he says Mikey had blood all
over him. Except Mikey did not have blood anywhere near him. Because Mikey was behind the tent when
Charlie got shot and Mikey in less than a second does something that I find to be quite strange.
He puts his phone to his ear and he begins a conversation. So, we're going to watch that clip
in its entirety. Mark is going to bring it in. [Applause] So, we decided to slow this clip down and we're
going to watch this clip set slow down. So, you can see that it is exactly um 834
milliseconds from the time that you hear the shot. That is how long it takes for
Mikey McCoy to put the phone to his ear. Now, why is that pre precise timing so important?
Because there's no dialing. Mikey didn't have time to dial. Okay? You can't dial and uh put
your phone to an ear in 834 seconds. The next time that you're going to see Mikey McCoy, as
we just showed you, is in just under two and a half seconds on the other side of the tent.
He's on a phone call. So, we can track Mikey. Let's watch the clip again in milliseconds so
you really grasp how quickly this transpires. So when this clip was brought there we go we're tracking that. Yeah. When the
clip was brought to my attention, I I obviously have a file, big folder of files of every angle,
and I decided to track Mikey from every angle available to see like maybe we just missed it. And
he did at some point put that phone down, dial a number, speed dial, hold down one, I don't know,
maybe we missed it because that seems that seems automatic, right? 0834. That seems pretty quick.
And no, no, he doesn't do that. Uh, we even have him in front of Charlie's car. Uh, when Charlie's
car is, uh, when Charlie is brought to the car, the waiting car rather, he is still on the phone.
And I can show you the clip of that. Take a look at this. Don't worry, we'll slow it down for you.
See him in the background with the backpack? It's Mikey McCoy. Okay. So, what are we to make of
that? The only logical conclusion that I can come up with and many others because I pressed I said
play devil's advocate. I want you to advocate for Mikey McCoy. I want you to play lawyer and you are
representing your client Mikey McCoy. What was he do? How did he do it this quickly? No one could
win this game. The only logical conclusion we come up with was that Mikey was already on a phone
call at 12:23 p.m. By 12:23 p.m. He was already on a phone call. So, I said, "Let's go back a little
earlier in the footage and see if we can find when he actually maybe dials onto the phone. Maybe we
can see him pick up the phone and begin a call before the shot takes off." And then after being
that call, if we're following this logic, that would mean he puts his phone down until Charlie
gets shot. And uh we were able to find what we think could be that moment. And I can tell you
that it is 1 minute and 45 seconds approximately before that shot goes off. And we can watch that
here. See Mikey's on his phone here and you're going to see he pulls it up and he starts to cover
his ear again. Now that could be unrelated. Again, we're taking a guess here. That's what made the
most sense to us because we couldn't justify it in any other way. And I want to be clear,
we're not here to make assumptions, okay? and we wouldn't have to make any assumptions if
Turning Point USA could just tell the truth. They could just be open and they could be honest about
everything. Okay, I obviously went out to both Mikey McCoy and Andrew Kovat for a statement. Ask
those two questions. Hey, uh, who were you on the phone with? What's going on here? No response.
Weird. Because if that was me and I saw clips going viral and people were drawing conclusions
from that clip, thinking that I was already on the phone, thinking that my reaction was weird.
I would instantly hit back. I'd say, "Here's my here's my call log. You want to know who I was on
the phone with? 911." Obviously, I was freaking out. Freaking out. I I called 911. I didn't know
what I was doing. Here's my phone. Here's my whole call log for that day. This is I don't know.
I guess we live in a world where that doesn't make sense. I would have issued a statement um to
dispel any rumors, but they have not. Here is what I want to say, and I'm I honestly I understand
I'm preaching to the choir here. Everything about this is wrong. You know it, and I know it, but
I actually know it better than most because I helped build that organization. And that's why
I am almost the perfect person to discern what is normal and what is abnormal in terms of what
happened at that college campus event. In fact, when I did my tribute to Charlie, this is
unbelievable. Remember, just after he died, I posted a video to my friend Charlie Kirk and
I shared a clip of him at a college event and he and I were laughing. Uh, and I'm going to show
you that clip in a second and I said, "I don't even know which college this is." And I showed
the clip because I didn't know what college it was. And unbelievably, it was UVU. I kid you not.
Let's rewatch that clip. If you aren't wealthy, white, and male, Charlie Kirk is not your friend.
What do you think? Not my friend anymore. Are we not friends? Is that right? Find out. I'm going
to find out a sign outside of a thing in an event that we just did that you're not my friend. Go
figure. That's unbelievable. Out of all the clips, we picked that and I had no idea it was UVU.
The point is that I hit college campuses with Charlie Kirk for six years. I don't believe uh
that there was a single living breathing person who has spoken at more college campuses alongside
Charlie Kirk than me. So I knew that things were weird when I saw the first and foremost the
camera guy, the one who takes down the camera, seeing him lingering alongside Charlie at the
event, flagged me as weird immediately. Okay, that's that's why I reached out when people saw
him taking down the camera. I said, "What is this? Why are you here?" Literally, why are you standing
next to I've never at any college event ever in six years had that man standing next to me at an
event. Okay, sometimes he wasn't even there. Other times, of course, when you are in AV, your job
is to be somewhere quiet. Your job is to have on like headphones to make sure the audio is good.
Maybe uh the idea that they're ming the person running a company is mking you up is completely
absurd. I didn't like it. It felt new to me. And you know what? When I called him, things got
pretty weird. He acknowledged that a lot of new stuff was happening on that day and I inquired
to him immediately uh about the subtle changes that I recognized. And the thing that struck
me as wrong was that he lied to me. I don't know why he was lying to me. Uh but a lot of
the things that he said didn't make sense. And I'm going to speak more thoroughly about what
it was that he said because obviously I recorded the phone call. I of course asked him why he took
down the cameras so quickly. I asked him to first and foremost simply show me the footage because
that's all I wanted to do. I'm thinking again, we're all going to get the band back together and
solve this murder. And he got weird. He got really weird. I said, I just want to like see the footage
so I can debunk. I know that you don't want to put more footage out there. that's fine. But like to
just show me the footage so I can debunk these all these internet conspiracies that you were hiding
something. I was not suspicious of Turning Point at all actually when I called and I asked him
again like what's the reason? What's the reason for taking down the cameras quickly? Why hasn't
the footage been released? Let me see it. And he told me that a he had spoken only to uh Erica and
the feds that he had regarding the footage. that is he specifically told me that as I said earlier
that he had secured that foot footage because he wanted to prevent Erica as I told you from having
to relive that moment and that made entirely no sense to me. I told you guys because uh we all
can watch Charlie Kirk be murdered over and over and over and over and over again. So how are you
sparing any emotions here by taking down the back footage? And then it made even less sense to me
and appeared to me as a lie once I saw the footage on FaceTime when I realized that there was no
blood on Charlie. So it was the it was the least traumatizing footage of all. Why be so secretive
about it? He then told me that he needed to speak with Turning Point lawyers first to see about
releasing the footage. I said, "Okay, fine." I let him take a couple days off and then we got back
on the phone and I said, "Look, that's kind of a BS excuse, too, because you run your own company
and the footage is owned by you." He then said, "Okay, yeah, I do own the footage. I just wanted,
you know, just coordinate, check, whatever." Okay, kind of a lie number twoish. Then he said
something that really bothered me. He said, "I don't know how to send the footage." Like the file
was too large. Oh. Oh, I was born yesterday. So, you run an entire AV company and you don't know
how to send footage. That didn't smell right to me. It got even more bizarre. He told me, and this
is when I was extremely uncomfortable. He said after I offered, you can just use Wii transfer.
He said, "I don't want to just send the footage over the internet uh that's behind Charlie's head
because I'm worried that Google might hack me." I swear on everything I love. That's what
he told me. He was afraid that Google was going to hack him. So, at this moment, I
got a little bit uh I looked at my team and I started snapping across the table and I
was like I I said to them literally guilty of something. I don't know. This is weird. What a
stupid lie. I mean, what do you mean who? So, I said to him, I said, "Let's just pretend
that that does happen." For whatever reason, Sergy Brin is sitting around and he's going,
I want to hack this person cuz I want to see footage behind Charlie's head. Does it?
Whatever. And then he gives the footage to Fox News, CNN, and they play it. And what happens
after that? I said to him, "Oh, I know what happens after." We all get to see Charlie Kirk
die from a different angle. We've seen it die from a thousand different angles. Like, what what
is actually changing if Google hacks you? Weird. A weird thing to say. I also asked him who he was
on the phone with after Charlie got shot. and he told me, and I kid you not, he was on the phone
with the ops that were back in Arizona watching. And I said, "What ops? We don't have people back
in Arizona watching when we do college campus events. Is that something new?" He said, "Yes,
it is new." In fact, this was the first time we were doing it. He said there were two people, two
ops that were watching it back in Arizona. And he told me that the reason that they were doing it
was because, you know, Candace, he said Charlie, uh, he was so ambitious and it wasn't fast enough
that it was all being live streamed. He wanted people to live cut the clips so that they could
be the first people to get it on the internet. He didn't want he is like not even a second to be
wasted. So live streaming to everybody can watch, but they were racing some people to get the clips
out faster than anybody else because Charlie's ambitious. Now I got a little suspicious and
sensing he could sense that I was now growing increasingly suspicious with every random thing
that he was saying. Uh he sent me a video that I didn't ask for. I wanted to see the footage.
He then sends me a video and I guess this was supposed to work as some sort of an alibi. I
don't know if he thought that I thought that he shot Charlie. I certainly did not think that he
was involved in uh pulling a trigger and killing Charlie Kirk. I don't I actually don't know why
this video I don't know what this video could have done that he sent me other than to make me feel
even more uncomfortable because the video he sent me is quite shocking. It's also the reason that
I knew that Tyler Boyer was lying when he tweeted that in this guy was commanded by the police
to take down the cameras. He's lying because I have every minute of what this guy was doing
thanks to him having sent it to me. Okay. Every minute of what he was doing before he took those
cameras down. And there are only four minutes, by the way, before he takes those cameras down.
So, he's next to and he is in front of Mikey McCoy when Charlie gets shot. Now, to his credit, he
actually did see Charlie get shot. Um, he saw in like a split second sees Charlie bleeding and
runs and doesn't run very far. He just runs a couple of yards away. Now, I should mention that
the camera guy, he too was also brought into the company by Tyler Boyer. Okay? And if you have
worked with Charlie for this long, over a decade, and you watch Charlie Kirk get shot, what
do you do? What would you do? I'm asking you this question at home. What would you do? I say
two things that we're are pretty common place, right? You choose between fight or flight. You
run towards him or you run away. And you run away far because you don't know what's happening. Is it
one shot? Are there multiple people? Are you being pursued? There's no way to process that if you are
going to be in flight. You should be sprinting and maybe calling 911. That's what I would have done
if I wanted to run away and not towards Charlie to make sure he's okay. But this second close
friend of Charlie chose to run just a few yards away up to a grassy null to take out his phone.
Couple of seconds later, he takes out his phone and he begins recording himself. It's a selfie
video. Takes a video of himself. So, let's watch that video. They just shot Charlie. They just
shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie. [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] There's your shot, Charlie. [Applause] He's dead. God help me. [Applause] That's the first time it was announced actually
that Charlie Kirk was dead. It's kind of weird. Go ahead, catch your breath. Hit rewind. Watch
it again. watch it over and over again like I did because you're probably thinking out loud,
"What the f did I just watch? What's going on? What were Charlie's closest friends and
allies and the people that were going to carry on the torch doing?" Oh. Um, picking
up phone calls they were already on. Uh, and filming themselves and prematurely announcing
when not a single person could have known that Charlie Kirk is dead. Less than a minute. Declared
dead. No instinct to run towards him. No instinct to run further away. Maybe because you got to
backtrack and go get the cameras. A minute after this ends is when he goes and gets the cameras.
Okay. Rather, let me record me and my reaction, which doesn't actually feel to me to be too
distraught. Okay. In fact, if uh I this is one of those videos that made me so upset that I was like
mad at other people, you know, like I was like mad at Savannah. I saw Mikey McCoy's reaction. Now I'm
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what's so funny to me is I don't know. I feel like they are now steeped in psychology for toddlers.
It's so obvious what's coming down the pipeline. The things, oh, it's not appropriate to share
private messages unless we do it. Unless we do it. Unless we're up on stage talking about private
conversations and making stuff up. That definitely didn't happen. I think it was actually Pastor
McCoy speech. Charlie wanted me to lead the next movement. Charlie Charlie told me, "I'm America's
pastor." He said, "Yeah, I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. I'm sure he called you America's
pastor." And so, yeah, I will be doing whatever I want to do until the truth is told about what
happened on 910. We should start with Josh Hammer, by the way, because he really has now become
the king of defying no stereotypes where we uh last left off. Obviously, he is now infamous
for just being such a deceitful little creature. The text message exchange, Josh Hammer caught
hand in the cookie jar. I'm talking way in the cookie jar. No other way to say it, right? Charlie
gets killed. He on the same day starts pushing his book. Charlie's last words were, "Buy my book.
Buy Josh Hammer's book." He the night before, oh, he never even flinched on Israel. He loved
Israel so much. And then I just waited because we're fishing now. And I knew they would do this.
I knew liars have to lie fast and first. And he did. He lied. He lied over and over and over
again about his position on Israel. And when I got when he got caught, you would think that
he would have a shred of decency. You would think he would have a shred of humility. You
would think he would apologize for lying about Charlie's position on Israel, but he didn't. He
just sort of doubled down. Uh he sort of is down, if you will. And it sort of gave
me an idea for a little miniseries, a little recurring miniseries that we'll probably
have on this show. An HBO miniseries, by the way, executively produced by me. I want to show it to
you guys now. It's a trailer that we put together. I uh I sure hope you guys like it. Take a listen.
how Charlie Kirk was actually feeling about the pressure he was receiving from pro-Israel Zionist
donors to Turning Point USA. Charlie definitely was not someone who liked to be bullied by
donors. Um, as we saw in those text messages, they're Jewish donors to TPUSA. Uh, played into
the worst stereotypes of Jewish people. Charlie writes, "Jewish donors play into all of the
stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. A few moments later, you know, I'm
I'm talking to lawyers. I think I I'm a lawyer with my background. I clerked for a federal
appeals judge. I know I know a thing or two about United States constitutional law. I think
that we have a a potentially serious case here for defamation and I'm very much speaking
with lawyers and we'll see what happens. Well done, Joshy. Well done. Very good, Joshy.
Tried your best to curb your Zionism. I know it's hard, but do your best. Too funny. Also, I want to
shout out John Miller on uh X. He made me laugh. I mean, I was really laughing when I saw his tweet
about Josh Hammer threatening to sue me. He just he just wrote this and it said it all. He said,
"They really trying to make us believe this is the good guy. LMAO like I mean come on. Yeah. I mean
he just looks like a Bond super villain. That's just what he looks like. And by the way that's
that's a lot of words to say what I always say. Like we don't know. No know but we know. And Josh
Hammer. Yeah. We know you're not the good guy. Okay. You got to you have to believe in your gut.
I keep talking about you guys over and over again. Your gut matters more. Right. Your subconscious
picks up on things before your conscience does. Which brings me to dreams, by the way, because
before I went on break, many people were triggered because I discussed uh on a previous show a
dream that I had, a very vivid dream uh whereupon Charlie told me that he had been betrayed. And so,
he's been betrayed. That's it. That's uh there's a lot I could say here. If I had known that me
discussing my dreams was going to trigger so many people, I would have started every other show
like Martin Luther King Jr. I' been like, I had a dream. I had a dream. I had a dream. And like I
said, this one was clear. Charlie told me that he was betrayed. He actually said more than that,
actually. But um we're fishing, right? So, let's be patient. What I want you guys to know about
Charlie is he also used to dream very vividly because we traveled together so much. He would
wake up, we would text, and he would tell me about those vivid dreams. And we talked about a lot of
things as you do when you get to know somebody. We talked about the spiritual realm. We talked about
religion, our faith, uh most importantly what our life's purpose was. And uh there was this period
in April where Charlie kept insisting to me over and over again that he was going to die young. In
fact, he told me that Turning Point USA was going to be the death of him. And I'm I'm I'm going to
allow you to read his words. And it's funny how this came about because when I was in Wyoming,
I went outside. I was writing uh like physically needed to write to put pen to paper and to pray
and I was sitting in the sun overlooking the mountains and right when I concluded my prayer
I opened my eyes and I saw a massive bald eagle and it just made me feel at peace. It's one of
those moments where you you just are in nature. You see something beautiful and it makes you feel
at peace. And then I felt the need to start going through messages and conversations between me and
Charlie. And sure enough, I stumbled upon many messages of him telling me how he would die. And
I'm going to show you some of those messages. Now, a particular set of messages that were written
on April 6th, 2018, just a couple of weeks before Kanye tweeted, "I love the way Candace Owens
thinks." which is relevant because a lot of things changed after that tweet and it's relevant because
Charlie sensed that something big was about to happen and I think that is what the something big
was. I also want to say obviously I am not making up these messages. Okay, turning point actually
Mikey McCoy has access to all of Charlie Kirk's messages. They can tell you that these ones are
real. Here is what he wrote. We were again talking about Kanye. Charlie wrote to me you're going
to be the iron lady of America. He had such a political vision for me. I never wanted that sort
of a thing. I see it so freaking clearly. I might be Moses though. I might not see this whole thing
through lmao. If that is the case, be my David. I said, dude, you haven't even realized your power
yet. You're so young is what I was thinking. He said, "If I tell you the true prophecy that I
know in my gut, it's really sad, but I hope it's wrong." He went on to say, "Anyway, I am not sure
if I will live to see the end of this revolution. I believe you were the piece that God meant me
to meet that will finish the fight." Since the beginning of TPUSA, I knew in my gut that I might
get wiped out at any time. I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time. Like all the
time. Anyway, that's depressing combo for another time. LMAO. I said, "That's weird. more of a fear
manifestation than an actualization. He said, "I'm not really afraid of it, but I'm just telling you
what I know to be true." And he told me that. He told me that. I don't know why Charlie knew he was
going to die young. And uh I don't know. I just felt like I needed to share that because it is in
part why the moment that Charlie got shot. I just knew he was betrayed spiritually in the same way
that Charlie knew that he was going to die young, I knew that this was a part of something bigger.
And so I wanted to say to you guys, to the people that betrayed Charlie, I would recommend that you
come clean. Okay? I would recommend that you come clean because Charlie said some other things and
I look at these things now and I think wow it's almost prophetic right it's almost prophecy and I
can tell you that this is a story that will have a happy ending a tragedy that will have a happy
ending the world is going to learn the truth about this they are I would recommend that you come
clean there are lines in the sand that are being drawn right now between good and evil many of you
have picked the evil side do you uh podcasters, people that make videos, people that are taking
money, tell people don't look over there. I would recommend you stop doing that. You don't have to
listen to me. You probably won't listen to me. And to people that betrayed Charlie, you probably
won't come clean likely because you're scared now. You should be scared, but you're the wrong kind
of scared. Okay. Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. There is more. This is not it. I'm
aware of that. That's why I've chosen to be on the side of goodness and truth no matter what the
cost is. I've picked my side. I don't care about any of you. I can't wait to read your articles
after this. Okay, that's breakfast for me. That inspires me now. Can't wait to read your looney
tweets. I can't wait for you to lie on things that I've said. I cannot wait because you know what?
on a hike that Charlie and I were on in Wyoming one time. We were discussing the death penalty.
Like he was asking like what's your position on the death penalty? And I told him, I've always
been against it. And typically that's a that's a theological conversation. Christians go back and
forth on it. Do you have a right to take a life? I'm on the side that no, we don't have a right
to take a life. But my position on it isn't even entirely theological. I said to Charlie, "The
reason I'm against it is because death is easy. You're here and then you're not. It's like falling
asleep, right? You're here one second and then you're not." Think about passing out or fainting.
People that uh commit grave evil and we're giving them death, that's it. Yeah. I always say uh they
deserve more than that. And for people that are involved, the many people that are involved in
this, not the lone shooter at different stages, people that are involved, people that know things,
that are watching this, maybe in an office cubicle and know things. Um I want you to know that if you
choose not to come clean, you are about to become very famous. Okay, I am talking like through the
ages famous. The kind of fame that most people cannot even comprehend. Not I cannot comprehend
that level of fame. Like I'm talking about the level of fame that can kill a name. You know
what I mean? Like nobody names their kid Judas anymore. Nobody names their kid Adolf anymore.
I'm talking about that level of fame. Infamy. So I'd come clean. I think there's a way out for you
if you come clean and you get with God. Anyways, like to say something in finality to the many of
you who would like to shut me up, who have been trying very hard to shut me up? No, I I think I'm
going to go ahead and be Charlie's David. I'm not going to stop talking about Charlie Kirk's death.
In fact, instead of trying to make me shut up, you should do something else. I think your time
would be better spent trying to stop the sun from rising. You'd have more success if you spent
your time trying to stop the sun from rising than trying to get me to shut up about who killed
Charlie Kirk because he knew he was going to die. And he knew that I was going to be the person that
had the spine to stand up for him. What he didn't know, I don't think he knew, was that millions of
people around the world, who maybe don't have a microphone, okay, who maybe don't have a podcast,
who maybe can't write articles for the Daily Mail, are standing by him, are standing on the side of
goodness. and we are going to see this thing out. And like I said, there will be justice. Not
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even know before this who is not letting this go going day in and day. You guys didn't even know
Charlie Kirk. It shouldn't be you. It shouldn't be you guys. It shouldn't be Zeb Boyin doing
ballistics. It I'm I'm missing the name. We'll get to that later this week of the guy who went
over the Google searches. It should not be all of these people, but I'm glad it is. I think um the
decentralization of it all is actually what makes this so powerful. Um letting you guys know by the
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I just thought it would be so much more fun to go on the internet and to look at all the comments
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Eminem wrote, "Dirt bag in a skirt. I don't even feel like I wear that many skirts, so that's
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faux sophistication has been ridiculous. So, I'm keeping it faux sophisticate. And Chrissy Tegan
wrote, "Go the f away already, you dumb, soulless pandering." Thank you, Chrissy. Thank you for all
the people that supported this. You guys can go to make him a sandwichand.com if you would like
to support me. Uh, and this is an amazing book. I wrote every word of it. It's the first time
that we took it out of a publishing house, which feels amazing because I think that's the future as
well. Decentralization, publish your own books. Uh because the publishers also have a lot of power
in changing history. And so I wanted to say that getting into some of your uh comments here, Ian
Carol wrote writes, "Fishing takes time. You got to set the bait. It's so good to have you back,
Candace." Oh, I spent time setting a lot of bait. A lot of bait has been set. And we'll see see what
we get. Amanda writes, "This is sick. Thank you, Candace, for always sharing the truth. God bless
you." Thank you, Amanda. Kiki Mack writes, "Canis, thank you so much for helping remove the wool from
my eyes and bringing me back to church. Never stop fighting for truth. You are setting an amazing
example for girls in the future. We love you, sister. Christ is king." Thank you so much, Kiki.
And I I do think women are a big part of this. I think we were kind of the and it gets into this
in this book, but the feminist movement to know where that comes from. There's a chapter called
Beyond the Pale, the Pale Settlement of Russia, who brought over that feminist movement. It
is good for you to know where that came from because I think we all were doing feminism.
I was when I was younger. Like I'm a feminist thinking it was like girl power spice girls and
it was never that. Never ever that. Amal writes, "I hate to be morbid, but God truly saved you
by removing you from DW. I'm so grateful that you're in a most port by God Almighty." And I
think you um and almost I don't know what that says. It was a dark time, but in hindsight, it's
clearly what was happening. Amal, it actually I think it all started with Kanye tweeting me. I
think handlers were sent out to manage to first and foremost break apart me and Charlie and then
to manage us and I'll speak more about that this week. But I I spoke to my husband about it and I
I see it so clearly now what happened and those messages between me and Charlie leading up to
that week that he tweeted us. It was actually Scott Adams says who did a video that I'll never
forget when that happened and he said that like like ripped a hole through the universe this tweet
and it was never supposed to happen. I'm going to dig that up, find it, and speak more about what my
experience was where I I do genuinely believe that handlers were sent out. And I got lucky that I had
this overwhelming spiritual feeling that needed to go to the UK and I met my husband. I think I was
actually saved by finding my husband, which was not accounted for. Joshua Steves writes, "Tyler
Robinson appearing in court today via Zoom without having to show his face surely isn't helping any
of the theories out there. It's good to have you back." Yeah. Yeah. Like I mean, come on. They're
like, it's like nine out of boo boo at this point. But don't worry, I'm sure no one at Turning
Point will think that's weird. They're just like, it's open. It's closed. And we're so happy that
that one lone shooter who got Charlie is being caught. These people just have no shame. Nobody
here has any shame. And that's that's a problem. Ivana Milano writes, "Keep up the great work.
Stand by your friend, reminding us that this isn't just a personal struggle, but a spiritual war."
Yes, it is. In a world where money and greed are taking over people's lives, thank you for helping
us to stay grounded in God's truth. Yes, it is worth losing money as I did. It is worth losing
fake friends as I did to stand up for the truth. And I'm just ready for war with these people. Like
all of it band together, you know, uh send your best warriors because all they ever do is lie and
smear and delude and take away and deplatform and you're not winning anymore. And something that
I want to say that's also so amazing is I didn't have to fight hard this time for people to believe
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like capture it very quickly. The one thing they can't do, right? They can't create. They aren't
the life force. These people are not the life force. They can only steal. They can threaten.
Um they can pressure, but they can't create it. I feel now uh as I was reflecting on things that
they all were trying to bottle up Charlie's energy and Charlie sent his energy where it needed to
be. I barely defended myself as they came out, attacked, lied. She didn't even speak to him since
2017. She didn't know Charlie. She hasn't seen him. They just lied and lied and lied and lied
and nobody from Turning Point defended me and said like that's a lie and what she's saying is
true. Uh, and the public, not for a single second, didn't take it. The amount of money that was spent
on telling those lies, and I barely had to defend myself, uh, and you guys knew that I was telling
the truth. And I think that that's incredible that that it truly is a testament to God and is a
testament to truth. And as Ian Carol said when I had him on my show, the truth doesn't need to be
repeated over and over again. It's the power of the of the frequency of truth, right? It takes a
lot of little lies. It's why the lie demands the truth shuts up. It's the reason they pass speech
laws. They need people to be quiet because when you start pe speaking the truth, it becomes more
powerful. I truly believe that and I'm I'm calling upon everyone to do that more often. Like just
speak the truth even if you're fearful of the consequence because the bigger consequence is not
being right with God when you pass. Tim Morgan writes for the investigation for Charlie. We love
you. God bless. Thank you so much. Um Caitlyn writes, "My brother HM passed away in 2021. He
often spoke about how he knew he was not going to live past 40 years. He was saying this when he was
in his 20s and he was 41. Yeah, Charlie said a lot more. He said a lot more. And I'm going to keep it
close because I do think a part of it was prophecy now. I really do believe that. And uh I'm going
to see this thing to the end. David Foster wrote, "I didn't even know Charlie and I was more shook
up seeing the footage than the camera guy seemed in a selfie video. He wasn't even shaking.
My hands were shaking and I was at home. It just does not add up. It doesn't add up. And
we've got to stop accepting this excuse of like, well, what would you do? I do know what I would
do. Okay, in your situation, you either run far and you don't record yourself, right? Or you go
run towards your friend and you help. In fact, the only person, as Ian Carol pointed out in
one of his videos, and you should sign up for um subscribe for Ian Carol's channel as well,
uh he pointed out that like the only person who was acting right and was Frank Turk.
Like the first thing you do is get down, right? because you don't know if there's going
to be another shot. How was Mikey McCoy confident enough to stay standing and walking? Nobody
knows. You don't know where the shots coming from. You don't see him get shot. The first thing
you would do is drop to the ground. That's like the first normal thing to do is to get low. Get
make sure you're safe. And then Frank Tur kind of crawls back towards Charlie and then tries to
like see him to the car. Like all of that feels normal to me. Okay. And they're always trying to
make us see things through the exception. Well, it was this one time at band camp where rather
exceptionally someone fired shots and someone was just really calm and walking away and I'm
like, "Yeah, I've seen Men in Black. That's not the person you should trust in this scenario is
all I'm saying." Um, Bayern writes, "Come back, Candace. Everyone needs Welcome back, Candace.
Pardon. Everyone needs a friend like you who would fight with such fire for justice. I am so glad you
were on the case. I can see that you would reveal the truth for us. don't know know but we know has
become my favorite phrase. Look, Charlie uh didn't know know that he was going to die young from the
moment that he started turning point as he said but he knew and he was right. So go with your gut.
Believe in your dreams, right? And when people try to mock you and tell you not to listen to them,
not trust your gut, know that those people are working for the devil literally. Okay? They want
you to think that this life is it and this life is not it. So get right with God and tell the
truth. And we'll see you guys tomorrow. [Music]
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