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Candace Owens Uncovers New Evidence in Charlie Kirk Investigation: Mystery Man at UVU Campus Day Before Shooting
Candace Owens reveals explosive new information in the Charlie Kirk investigation, including details about a suspicious individual who claimed to be Senator Mike Lee's bodyguard scoping out UVU campus the day before the shooting. She examines Officer Bagley's testimony gaps, questions about black nitrile gloves found in the vehicle, and addresses Frank Turek's controversial biblical references suggesting she should be "struck down." Owens also provides updates on multiple investigative threads while challenging Turning Point USA's narrative and calling for transparency in what she describes as an increasingly suspicious case.
Frank Turek's Controversial Biblical References
Frank Turek sparked controversy by appearing on Nicholas Bowling's podcast and making biblical references that many interpreted as suggesting Candace Owens should be struck down for her investigation into Charlie Kirk's death. Turek cited Exodus 22:22 and Deuteronomy 19, which discuss divine retribution against those who abuse widows or make false accusations. He characterized Owens' investigative work as "evil" and accused her of falsely accusing people without evidence, despite her documented efforts to uncover facts in the case.
Owens challenged Turek's characterization, pointing out that she and her team have been methodically investigating inconsistencies in the official narrative while others have called for Tyler Robinson's conviction without substantial evidence. She questioned why providing additional leads and asking questions would warrant such harsh biblical condemnation.
Black Nitrile Gloves and New Forensic Questions
A significant development emerged regarding black nitrile gloves found in the vehicle's door compartment. A woodworking hobbyist contacted Owens explaining that black nitrile gloves are commonly used when working with CA glue and spray activator because they're highly resistant to strong adhesives. This revelation raises questions about why these specific gloves would be in the vehicle, particularly given Jon Aaron Bray's previous demonstration showing how sticky the glass from a Rode microphone can be.
The timing and purpose of these gloves remains unclear, especially considering Frank Turek's testimony that he immediately put his hands into Charlie Kirk's neck wound and had blood all over him. The presence of gloves specifically designed for handling adhesives adds another layer of questions to the investigation.
Mystery Man at UVU Campus Day Before Shooting
Owens revealed that a suspicious individual was spotted on UVU campus on September 9th, the day before the shooting, behaving in a manner that caught security's attention. When approached by campus security, this person claimed to be Senator Mike Lee's bodyguard, stating he was scoping out the area to ensure the senator's safety for the upcoming event.
However, this explanation proved false on multiple levels. Senator Lee had already cancelled his attendance due to National Defense Authorization Act votes in Washington DC. Additionally, Lee apparently doesn't maintain a security apparatus or security team. The individual appeared to have insider knowledge about the event's attendee list, information that would only be available to a select group including Turning Point USA event staff, club students, university officials directly involved in planning, and possibly UVU police.
This incident raises serious questions about pre-event surveillance and who had access to sensitive planning information. Owens emphasized that Tyler Robinson would not have been among those with access to such details about event attendees.
Officer Bagley's Testimony Gaps
Officer Christopher Bagley's testimony revealed significant gaps in the investigation's documentation. When asked by Tyler Robinson's defense attorney whether he had reviewed footage to determine if anyone else had been on the Losee rooftop between the time the alleged shooter jumped off and when Bagley secured the scene, his response was evasive and unclear.
Despite having ten months since the incident and working at UVU with presumed access to all video footage, Bagley claimed he did not review this footage to determine if anyone else had accessed the rooftop before he arrived at 12:44 PM. Owens revealed exclusively that someone did access that rooftop after the alleged shooter departed and before Bagley secured the scene, raising questions about potential evidence contamination or planting.
The screwdriver's discovery story has evolved significantly from initial reports. CNN originally reported that authorities found a screwdriver "near the recovered rifle," but after public backlash at the improbability of this narrative, the story changed four days later when Kash Patel and Dan Bongino clarified the screwdriver was actually found on a different rooftop. Bagley's body camera footage conveniently died at the moment he allegedly discovered the screwdriver, despite the device showing no warning signs like beeping or flashing red lights that typically precede battery failure.
Updates on Allen Robertson Investigation
Owens provided important corrections and updates regarding Allen Robertson, the San Bernardino police officer who was present at the scene. Many viewers had been searching for information using the wrong spelling (A-L-L-E-N instead of A-L-L-A-N), leading to confusion about a different person. Multiple sources familiar with the San Bernardino Police Department confirmed that Robertson left on good terms after years of service, seeking to raise his children outside the city environment.
Robertson's presence at UVU on September 10th was explained by the fact that he's a USU (Utah State University) officer, and Charlie Kirk had an event scheduled at USU just ten days later. Robertson and his partner were conducting a threat assessment for that upcoming event when the shooting occurred, at which point they assisted. Their presence was not coordinated with Charlie Kirk's security team or UVU police for the September 10th event itself.
Blake Neff's Response and Hotel Investigation
Blake Neff criticized Owens on social media, accusing her of "harassing another random Utah police officer" and "putting innocent lives at risk." He claimed she was continuing a pattern of going after individuals and then losing interest, referencing a police sergeant from two weeks prior. Owens countered that Neff and others have been calling for Tyler Robinson's conviction without presenting evidence, making Neff's accusations of harassment hypocritical.
Through internet investigation, Owens' team identified that members of the Turning Point USA team stayed at the Asher Adams Autograph Collection Hotel in Salt Lake City on September 10th. This was confirmed through a news hit Andrew Kolvet conducted from his hotel room on Benny Johnson's show on September 11th, which internet sleuths matched to the hotel's distinctive interior. Tyler Bowyer was also confirmed to have stayed at the same location. However, it remains unclear whether Blake Neff stayed at this hotel or elsewhere, as his recollection of his whereabouts that night has been inconsistent.
Ian's Medical Situation Resolution
In uplifting news, Owens announced that an anonymous benefactor from the country music world has agreed to pay for the entire rehabilitation stay in Florida for Ian, Owens' security personnel who suffered a stroke in Russia. This generous donation will cover his complete treatment and recovery. Owens expressed gratitude to everyone involved in Ian's care, including Russia's Ministry of Health, the Joe family, a Catholic family in Russia who visited him with their children, the special forces personnel who assisted, and the "babushkas" who cried when he left. Ian reportedly maintains a positive mental attitude and Navy SEAL mentality about his recovery.
Iran Elementary School Bombing
Owens addressed the United States bombing of an elementary school in Iran at the beginning of the war, which killed 156 people including 120 students and 26 teachers. Initially, President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth denied U.S. involvement, claiming Iran was responsible. However, footage revealed that Tomahawk missiles—used exclusively by the United States—struck the school.
Sky News conducted an investigation debunking every U.S. government claim about the incident. The footage showed distinctive Tomahawk tail fins, and satellite imagery placed the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group within range of the target on the day of the attack. Despite one analyst allegedly spotting the school on intelligence tools in 2019, this information wasn't passed up the chain of command. The U.S. government later claimed the IRGC was building missiles underneath the school, but this was also debunked by Western media investigations.
Owens criticized the government's handling of the incident, pointing out that the technology used would have identified every person in the building before the strike. She questioned the moral justification for such an attack and the subsequent lies told to the American public. The incident only came to light after undeniable evidence emerged, with the government never issuing a proper acknowledgment or apology.
Video Transcript
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. It's
yanking bank Tuesdays.
We're going to do some yanking and
banking around a few topics. Frank Turk
is actually going viral right now,
trending on X for seemingly using the
Bible to message that I should be struck
down. And that's not the first time he's
done that. We're going to get into it.
And it will come as absolutely no
surprise to you guys that Blakey Nef is
upset. I thought for sure yesterday at
the end of the episode he'd reach out.
He would thank us for all of our hard
work investigating, for having solved
the mystery of who was on the rooftop at
Loy Center with Officer Bagley. But no,
Blakey says I'm putting innocent lives
at risk. Really? How? It's kind of funny
because I would argue that he's doing
that when he continually calls for the
conviction of Tyler Robinson in the
absence of evidence. Anyway, you'll be
happy to know that we found another
blank space that we can fill again for
Officer Baggley. I'm just looking
through this testimony like, "How can I
help? How can I help?" Another question
that he was asked on the stand where his
his pregnancy brain started to kick in
again. And you guys know I'm here to
help. Welcome back to Candace.
Frank Turk. Is it Dr. Frank Turk? I
think it's actually Dr. Frank Turk. May
he forever have a platform. May he
forever have a platform, ladies and
gents. Because from the very beginning
of this investigation, it has been
abundantly
apparent that the public relations
directive has been let them eat
Christian slop. Right? Let them eat
Christian slop is how we will remember
this decade. But sir, how are we going
to get them to believe that a bullet
that could take down two moose was
magically stopped by Charlie's neck? Oh,
remind them how Moses parted the Red
Sea. But sir, can we really make them
believe that a grieving widow for gave
her husband's killer, took over the
entire company, and is on a corporate
Zoom call laughing at emojis within six
days of her husband's public
assassination?
Tell them Charlie's dancing in heaven
with Jesus because of all of the merch
sales. Merch sales. Merch sales.
Sir, even for us, the sparkly pants.
Letting his enemies open at Afest to
attack Charlie's actual friends. It
feels a bit soon.
Time to start dropping the biblical
verses about the widow, honor the widow.
Yeah, Frank Turk is of this exact ilk.
The call yourself a pastor. Memorize a
few biblical proverbs and use those
proverbs to justify literally anything,
including evil. You can justify war. God
will bless you if you bless Israel.
Really? I think they're raping kids. God
will bless you if you bless Israel.
Justify obvious lies, holes in the
Charlie Kirk assassination. anything can
be justified uh when you get on this
like Christian grift. So, he's been
trending for the last 48 hours because
on Monday he joined Nicholas Bowling's
podcast with this message which has some
people concerned. Take a listen.
>> You know, my friend Charlie Kirk, a good
thing. A murderer degraded Charlie by
murdering him. Not completely. I mean,
he's still alive. He's just absent from
the body, present with the Lord. But the
murderer degraded his good body. That's
what evil does. It degrades something
good.
And and that's what Satan does. In fact,
what did um
what did the apostles and Jesus call
Satan? He's a murderer, a liar, an
accuser, a slanderer who wants to steal,
kill, and destroy.
>> Charlie was murdered. What have we had
since then? Lies, accusations, and
slander. seeking to kill, steal, and
destroy.
>> Or steal, kill, and destroy. This is
spiritual warfare. This is demonic
activity.
>> Yeah. I'm talking about Candace Owens.
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's ridiculous. You
don't accuse people of murder without
evidence, but that's what she's doing
left and right. She's insinuating it
left and right. That's evil. In fact, in
the Old Testament, Exodus 22:22
says that if you abused a widow or the
fatherless, God says, "I will hunt you
down and kill you with the sword."
Deuteronomy 19 in the Old Testament
economy says, "If you accuse somebody
falsely of a crime and you're found out,
you get the penalty of that crime." So,
if you falsely accuse someone of murder
and you're found out, you're the one
executed. Wow. If we had those laws
today, it would shut down the internet,
wouldn't it? Because all we do is we
have people accusing other people,
insinuating innocent people are guilty
for a crime they never committed without
evidence. By the way, that's why you
need two witnesses in the Bible, right?
You need evidence. You don't falsely
accuse people. So this is what evil
does. It degrades.
>> First off, don't you point your finger
at me, Frank Turk, pointing your finger
at the screen. Okay. Okay. Secondly, you
are quite literally describing yourself,
Blake Nef, uh, Orbit of Influencers who
have been screaming for Tyler Robinson
to be convicted and have been unable to
produce really any evidence, actually,
any evidence which would convince the
public that he might have done this. I
mean, the bar was so low. I was ranting
at my team today of just how incredibly
low the bar was for them to prove to us
that, yeah, Tyler Robinson did this,
right? All they had to do uh, was show
us the video of him taking the shot. All
they had to do was somehow connect the
gun to the crime scene. They couldn't do
that. Uh all they had to do was show us,
I don't know, video, I guess, of him
dropping the screwdriver putting
together the gun on the rooftop.
Nothing. Nothing they have said since
the very beginning. Tyler Robinson's
parents turned them in. Had they showed
us that? Nope. Instead, we hear a story
about Mitch Mitchell, as I told you from
the beginning, press undercover officer
his entire life, pressuring him to come
in peaceibly, otherwise they were going
to knock in the doors. You guys have
lied at every single stage of this,
including by describing him as a a
transgendered or or being in a
relationship with somebody that's
transgendered. That hasn't checked out.
You told us this was a politically
motivated murder. We heard testimony
from his boyfriend who says, "No, he
wasn't into politics. We never discussed
Charlie Kirk ever in our relationship.
What have you proven? What have you
proven other than the fact that you are
really angry that you keep being
disproven and more people are
recognizing that you didn't tell us the
whole truth perhaps or different version
of events. By the way, uh Frank, we
received an interesting email yesterday
and it's fact checked true. We keep
wondering about those gloves in the door
compartment. Hey, you've got a platform.
Speak to us about this. What were they
used for? You were in the car. You were
in the back praying. Because from where
I'm sitting, there is currently more
evidence that Charlie Kirk was killed
from an exploding mic than there is that
he was shot from uh Loy Rooftop by Tyler
Robinson. Like a lot more evidence in
the other direction. Anyway, you you
know I love bluecollar workers. I like
people who work with their hands, make
hobbies out of working with their hands.
And it's because they're the most
sensible. They don't really buy the
crap. They don't really buy the
influencers, telling them not to believe
their own eyes. And there's this guy who
uh knows a bit about wood shopping, if
you will. He sent me this email and we
decided to fact check it. He said, "Hey
guys, just an FYI, I do woodworking as a
hobby and I use CA glue and spray
activator." And I'm not sure where I
learned it, but I always remember being
told to use black nitro gloves because
it's the most resistant to that crazy
adhesive.
For example, if you were trying to clean
off all the broken pieces of glass from
a road microphone that has adhesive on
it in a hurry. Well, there you go. OBS,
I know you guys will do the research. I
feel like it's common knowledge for
woodworkers. Sorry I can't be of more
help to point you to anything specific,
but thought I'd let you know. God bless
you all. Christ is king. Is that true?
Is that true? We looked it up and it
turns out it is 100% true. Kept going.
What would be the purpose of these
gloves? Frank told us he stuck his
fingers right into Charlie's neck. He
had blood all over him. He could taste
it in his mouth.
At what point would he have put on black
nitro gloves? If those are indeed black
nitro gloves, who would have used them?
Rick's busy. Why isn't his is it in his
compartment? We've also broke the story
that the 911 call, which is yet to be
released. They hear them in the back
saying, "Get that off of him. Could it
be?
Maybe. Remember John Bray showed us that
that glass for the road mic is very,
very, very sticky. Turns out that yes,
black nitro gloves are used by
woodworkers when they are handling
superglue, crazy glue, and it is because
it makes it easy to wipe off adhesive.
So, I'm just sharing the facts. This is
an investigation and everybody's
contributing in ways and I'm learning so
much on the journey. Anyway, here is
another very interesting true story that
I can share with you guys. It's story
time. You can take from it what you
will, okay? It's actually regarding
Senator Mike Shamway Lee. Senator Mike
Lee of Utah. Didn't expect to hear his
name in the story, by the way. He didn't
do anything shady. He seems like he's a
good guy, actually. Uh he comes from a
very wellto-do family. Uh he actually
was born in in Arizona, but uh spent
most of his uh upbringing in Utah. His
father was actually the founding dean of
BYU's law school program. Anyway,
Senator Lee was actually slated to
attend the Charlie Kirk event at UVU on
September 10th. And I can tell you from
experience. That is not unusual. Okay,
like I said from the beginning, I
immediately noticed what made sense,
what didn't make sense. What does
typically happen at these events um is
that local politicians, local donors may
come by, say a few words, because
obviously these are their constituents,
possibly people who are currently
running or planning to run in the
future. We'll go to these sorts of
events. None of that strikes me as
unusual or odd that he was scheduled to
be there. Makes sense. Now, Turning
Point USA, of course, was aware that
Senator Lee was going to attend, but as
the DC story goes, that week the senator
had to cancel very early on in the week
due to the National Defense
Authorization Act, um there were votes
that were taking place in DC funding
that and so he had to cancel. Okay. Now,
I've got a source that UVU
tells me that after the assassination of
Charlie, Mike Lee was contacted due to
something unusual that took place on
campus the day before the shooting. Now,
I want to be clear, day before the
shooting, Mike Lee had already canled.
Okay, that's important for you to know.
Apparently, there was someone on
September 9th who looked remarkably
suspicious who was moving about on
campus. Stood out. The security went,
"This person's behaving oddly. What are
they doing? It looks like they're kind
of scoping the place out, if you know
what I mean." And so they said, "We're
going to go up to this individual." And
when that suspicious individual was
approached, he told the campus security
that he was Senator Mike Lee's
bodyguard, scoping out the area to
ensure that the senator was going to be
safe ahead of the event. So they said,
"Okay, that makes sense. We'll we'll get
we'll let you go." The only thing is
that that wasn't true. Like I said, by
that time, the senator's office had
already cancelled their plans. And I
have done some digging and it also
appears that Mike Lee is pretty down to
earth. He doesn't actually have a
security apparatus, a security team. So,
just to make that perfectly clear to
you, again, Senator Lee didn't do
anything wrong. We're not speculating he
did whatsoever. What we are underlining
here is that the person that was on
UVU's campus had at least enough
information to deliver a good sounding
excuse, a legitimate sounding excuse in
the event that he was stopped while he
was scoping out the campus, which he
actually was stopped. And there was only
a small group of people who would have
been privy to that knowledge, who would
have been privy of the attendee list. A
sensible person might argue that Tyler
Robinson would not be among those who
was privy to that sort of information.
Why would Tyler Robinson
know
who was going to attend this event?
Certainly Turning Point USA event staff
would have known. Club students would
have known. Perhaps those at the
university who were directly involved in
the planning of this event would have
known. Maybe UVU police for example
would have known this.
But you know that limits the pool.
Surely
it's an avenue worth exploring. No
footage must exist of this mysterious
man who appeared to be scoping out the
campus the day before who lied about the
reason why and tried to blame it on Mike
Lee. Had that excuse ready to go in the
chamber, if you will. I call me crazy,
but I have a feeling once again that I'm
not going to be thanked for bringing
this information into the public domain.
I just it never goes that way.
Anyways, you're welcome, Turning Point
USA. Since you say that you really just
want to know what happened,
there's a start for you. Erica could
call up UVU and ask them about that. See
if that's true. She'd call up Mike Lee.
He certainly attended the hearing and
see if that's true.
Uh she I can't figure out why us
bringing forth more viable leads is so
naturally upsetting to Turning Point
USA. I mean, yesterday we solve officer
Baggley's bout of pregnancy brain and
Blake Nef comes at us like this on X. He
wrote, "In today's episode, Candace
starts harassing another random Utah
police officer, accuses him of being a
dirty cop, suggests that is suspiciously
timed that he moved to Utah a year
before Charlie's shooting, and then asks
people who knew him in the Marines years
ago to send her dirt on him so she can
harass him some more. We already saw
this with a police sergeant that she
went after two weeks ago and then got
bored with. Candace feels no shame about
harassing any person she feels like just
to keep her grift going while maybe
hurting a few people along the way. Why
so angry, Blakey?
You guys all just seem so angry all of a
sudden posting people on your platform
that are calling for my home to be
raided for sharing the video of the guy
who certainly looks like he's got some
military experience on the rooftop. Why
would that make you angry?
Why would people even be discussing my
home being raided? Does the FBI not have
access to all of the footage? Like, what
are you rating me for? Don't you have
it? Why aren't you guys releasing it? I
thought the the widow wanted nothing but
transparency. Where am I getting it
wrong? The messaging here is not
landing. You know, we actually received
a press request from the Daily Mail
yesterday regarding the footage that we
released of the rooftop man and tactical
crawling across Loy Center jumping from
the roof like Spider-Man. Um, among
other questions that they asked me
specifically, and I'm I'm serious, they
quoted I'm quoting them directly. They
wrote, uh, "What steps are you taking if
the worst happens and you are raided by
law enforcement?"
Raided by law enforcement? Why would I?
I didn't kill Charlie K. Why would I be
raided by law enforcement?
Rate us for helping.
Consistent messaging to the public was
they wanted nothing but transparency.
Dan Bonino, Cash Patel, Erica Kirk,
Turning Point USA. We didn't edit the
videos. We don't lie about what was on
the footage. Power to the people. Here's
the footage.
In fact, the influencers are lying. Why
don't you raid them?
Maybe someone's paying them to lie.
Hey, but yesterday we did solve the low
sea rooftop mystery. No thank yous.
Officer Baggley,
um, who I have to say were I seated
amongst a jury of my peers, I would
label him to be unconvincing in his
presentation. But don't worry, they're
not going to call me uh on the jury. I
don't think so. I I have to say in my
opinion
I am not believing the rooftop
screwdriver story. Something feels wrong
there. Um there's a reason for that.
First and foremost I want to say they
want us to forget the origins of the
screwdriver story. Right. When we first
learned about the screwdriver, it was
less than 24 hours after Charlie was
assassinated. We learned about the
screwdriver because someone in law
enforcement leaked information to the
press. Except when they initially leaked
the information, they said that the roof
it was found with the rifle near the
rifle, not on Los Rooftop. Okay. They
said the screwdriver was found near the
rifle rifle. And I can show you that.
Here's a throwback headline from
September 11th. Here is CNN. And yes,
they have um you don't have to like CNN
to recognize that they are a state
apparatus part of the project
Bockingbird. Um and the article here
says, "Authority found a screwdriver
near the recovered rifle." and it reads,
"Authorities recovered a screwdriver
near the rifle investigators believe was
used in yesterday's fatal shooting of
conservative activist Charlie Kirk."
According to a source with knowledge of
the investigation, investigators believe
this to be an indication that the
shooter may have used it to disassemble
and reassemble the firearm before using
it. Removing the stock would help the
shooter conceal the weapon in a bag or
even in his clothing, they believe. So,
when this article got released, there
was a bunch of backlash. just sounded so
foolish to people again. These are your
bluecollar common sense people and they
revolted and said this is not he he
assembled reassembled what are we
talking about and then left the
screwdriver with the gun you guys found
it all together. So what what happened
next was due to that public revolt at
the inherent stupidity the inherent
improbability of the story which was
unfolding uh they kind of took a
breather and 4 days later we hear from
Cash Patel and Dan Bonino and they
clarify that you know the footage is
grainy uh but the screwdriver was
actually found on the rooftop and that's
what brought us to officer Bagley's
unusual testimony where his body cam
dies seemingly without warning at
exactly the right time. And there's a
ton of warning that should have been
happening. It should have been beeping.
It should have been uh flashing red.
Maybe this is a a reason why he uh
doesn't want to mention who he was with
going to Loi. That'd be a good question
to ask Allan Robertson to say like,
"Hey, do you remember this flashing red
light or anything?"
Well, we actually have some other news
that can help officer back. I'm so
excited. I love helping. I I'm just so
charitable, you know. And it's this time
it's pertaining to a different portion
of his testimony where he seems to kind
of get a little fuzzy on the details and
say something doesn't really make sense,
but I'm going to take him at his word.
Now, to jog your memory, this is how
officer Bagley responded to what I think
is a rather clear question that was
asked by Tyler Robinson's defense
attorney. Take a listen.
When you reviewed the videotape at the
police department later, did you check
to see if anyone had been on the Los
building after the shooting after this
individual had jumped off that you've
already talked about? Was there anybody
else on the roof? Did you check and see
in that gap of time?
>> In that gap of time, no. So, once I put
up the barrier, I only walked walked up
to about that point. Then I went down
and reviewed the video from that moment
on. So, were you able to see are you
able to say for one way or the other if
anyone else had been on that roof in
between when the person jumped off the
building and when you came on the roof?
Are you able to say one way or the
other?
>> Uh, there was people up there looking
for an individual that ran that way
because when I first got told the
individual ran heading north that we
didn't know where the shooter was, so we
started climbing up and looking clearing
the building. And it wasn't until I went
to the PD and actually saw him jump off
of the building that I knew he was off
the building.
Let me rephrase that because I think I'm
I either asked it badly or you
misunderstood me. So, let me let me go
back again. So, from the time that the
individual that you spotted on the video
jumped off the roof, right? The
individual that you thought was in the
prone position.
>> Okay.
>> Between that and when you got on the
roof, did you ever check to see if
anybody else had been on the roof in
that period of time?
>> Yeah. And I didn't see anybody.
>> So, you did?
>> I didn't notice anybody.
>> Yeah. You didn't did you look on the
video to see that entire Okay, that's
what I'm asking. So, you did not review
the video to see if there was someone
between you that individual jumping off
and you coming on if anybody had been on
or disturbed that scene in any way.
Okay.
I felt like the question was pretty
simple.
Was anybody on the rooftop before you
after Charlie goes down? Did anybody was
anybody on that rooftop before you? And
um yeah. Hey, this is 10 months later.
So, I'm assuming obviously you work at
the police department. You work at UVU.
You have access to the videos, right?
Wouldn't that be just like a normal part
of your investigation to see exactly
what happened once you determined that
this person jumped off the rooftop?
Wouldn't you have watched every single
second leading to the moment that you
secured after afterward leading up to
the moment that you secured the rooftop?
Alfa says he didn't do that. He doesn't
know. No, he has no he did not prep for
this. He just he's just showing up. He's
just showing up here at court. Didn't
prep. Didn't want to get answers. Lack
of curiosity. Lack lack of I guess like
investigative lust. He just was like, I
don't know. Just got off that rooftop.
Didn't do anything. Did I don't I didn't
even investigate why or how my my body
cam footage. I don't know anything. I
don't even know who was up the rooftop
with me.
That's a pretty important question.
And I can exclusively tell you guys that
the answer to that question is yes. Yes,
somebody did get on that rooftop before
you, didn't he, Officer Bagley? Well,
maybe you don't know, but I'm telling
you, woo, sigh of relief. Yeah, someone
got up on that rooftop. And why is that
important? That's important because if
Officer Bagley said that he found a
screwdriver and somebody was on that
rooftop
after that went off, it's plausible
that this unknown person could have
planted the screwdriver.
But I I think it's something Officer
Bagley should do. He should review the
footage to see who was on that rooftop
after the alleged shooter and before he
got on the rooftop. Does that make sense
to you, Officer Beckley? It's very easy.
Person you say shot Charlie Kirk, jumped
off. Was there anybody on that rooftop
before you got on at 12:44 p.m.? And the
answer is yes.
By the way, Turning Point USA could
definitely be forthcoming about this
stuff. That's weird that they just have
nothing.
I also want to add here as an important
update because we were asking a lot of
questions specifically about Allan
Robinson who formerly was of the San
Bernardino police um and he moved to
Utah. But we had brought up the Brady
list and then we got a ton of emails of
people that were actually spelling his
name wrong. Allan is spelled A L, not A
L Len. So they were sending us a bunch
of stuff on a different Allen. A L L E
N. It is not him. Uh we were actually
inundated in a way that the pattern here
tells me that this this what I'm hearing
is the truth. People associated with San
Bernito Police Station. He said he abs
absolutely was not let go or transferred
over any conduct issues. He had served
years there. He left willfully because
he wanted to raise his kids somewhere
outside of the city. Um and he obviously
San Bernino is like a whole different
scene and he left apparently on very
good terms. So I want to provide that
update uh because that's why we were
asking for information. So they were not
sure entirely why he had an entry with
no details on the Brady list. And I also
want to say that we've covered a lot of
people on the show and we get a ton of
emails being like this person is shady
or you should look into this. This was
the first time that we got a lot of
emails of people who were saying that um
Allan was actually a a good guy and we
got an answer by the way of why he was
on that campus which I should have kind
of thought through because this is kind
of common sense. He's a USU officer and
don't forget that unusually Charlie had
an event 10 days later back in Utah that
was supposed to take place at USU. So
they were not there in coordination with
Charlie's team or in coordination with
UVU. They were there because they were
doing a threat assessment for their
event that was 10 days later. Uh him and
his partner that I'm forgetting his name
uh the other person who was guarding. So
they were doing their threat assessment
and then this took place and then they
jumped in and started helping. But they
were not there. I can confirm they were
not there in coordination with Charlie
security or in coordination with UVU
police on that day. So their presence
there was actually not a matter of
chance but a matter of an event that was
happening 10 days later down the road
essentially and so they were like they
were monitoring the event and then
things went off. So we um like I said
received a ton of emails and I said as
we get information we can update you. I
it was enough people that were in enough
places that I trusted this and also uh
they because of their presence would
have had to make police reports
obviously. So it's just very odd that
officer Bagley is pretending he couldn't
find out who these officers were when
they were in communication with his
chief. They obviously we see that on the
video. um they were on the low se
rooftop and he has access or presumably
all the UVU police officers would have
access to that footage to be able to
answer that question for him. It makes
entirely no sense. So, um yeah, that's
what I have for you. I wanted to update
you so we can answer questions that we
bring up on here. A lot more questions,
a lot more emails that we were receiving
about officer Baggley, however, and his
history. And there were not many people
or any people in our inbox that were
defending Christopher Bagley, which is
interesting. My gut tells me that he
could have answered more questions had
he had wanted to answer more questions
while he was on the stand. So, what
gives? I don't know. We'll be right back
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Interesting. I'm reading somebody's
comment just kind of live here and they
said, uh, if you go back and watch
officer Baggley's testimony, I can
confirm this, he actually does slip and
say Allen at one point, so he definitely
knew who the person was. I'll have to go
back and see if that's correct if he did
say the name Allen in court, and I'll
update you guys. Also, my producer in my
ear said that I accidentally said Allan
Robinson. Obviously, I'm autocorrecting
and just saying Robinson because he's
been saying Tyler Robinson for so long,
but it was Alan Robertson. And yes, um,
by all accounts, it seems like he left
by on his own valition and he just he
has young kids and wanted to leave the
city life. So, we can, um, shut down
that lead. I love when I get answers to
questions that we have and hopefully
more information is going to come out um
about what his testimony is in terms of
what happened on the roof. And um, he
obviously would not have had access to
the same stuff that Officer Baggley
should have had access to to be able to
answer those questions. So, it's giving
shady Baggley. It's giving shady. Okay,
couple more updates for you guys. Um,
you're not going to believe this. This
is kind of amazing. Immediately update
on Ian. Um, that is the name of my
security person uh that all the stuff
happens to in Russia. We had a person
reach out who is in the country music
world who does not want to be named or
get any credit and he is going to pay
for the entire thing which is just like
incredible just absolutely incredible.
Uh he's going to pay for his entire stay
and rehabilitation in Florida. Again
does not want any credit for it
whatsoever. But I wanted to let you guys
know because you've been on this
journey. We got so many emails from you,
people um that are just in military
families who have had similar
experiences trying to help in whatever
way that you can while we now have an
actual solution. So, the next update
that I will be giving you hopefully we
will be saying that he's sprinting down
the driveway on his own and like I said,
he is in a very good mental like mental
space. He just is very confident that he
can do it and just has kind of that Navy
Seal mentality. Um, so I just wanted to
say that that I an absolute blessing
occurred and I woke up to news of that
this morning and person who shall not be
named. I just can't say to you enough
how grateful my family is and also to
Russia's Ministry of Health, how
grateful we are, everybody that was
involved in this, Joe family, the
Catholic family that lives in Russia who
went and visited him, uh, brought their
children to lift up his spirits to the
team that was in Russia, the babushkas
that cried when he left. just I just
love everyone so much and it just is
such a warming story and the things that
happen and go right to the special
forces people be saying that in Russia
who were everyone was just amazing.
Everyone stepped up to the plate and
this is like such a beautiful thing to
find out when I woke up this morning. So
I wanted to give you guys an update in
other news and other updates, other
investigations, us being helpful, never
ever ever getting the credit. remember
uh we were helping Blake who blanked out
uh remember the hotel that he stayed in
the night of September 10th. He at first
thought he stayed in Orum, then said he
maybe misspoke. Then he remembered that
actually no, he stayed in Salt Lake
City. And as always, we thought, wow, if
he's getting early amnesia, we need to
assist him. And no one saw he didn't he
doesn't remember where what he did when
he was in Salt Lake City. He didn't even
remember that he was with Danny Phillip
or where him and Danny Phillip went, how
they got the whole thing is crazy. But
at least we got some sort of an answer
on the hotel, right? We were able to
determine that the some members at least
of the Turning Point USA team stayed at
the Asher Adams um autograph collection
hotel in Salt Lake City. Now, we can't
say definitively that Blake Nef was with
them, but Andrew Kovat did in fact do a
news hit from his hotel room, which
internet sleuths were able to track
down. This is like Don't F with cats if
you've ever seen that documentary. Just
look at the picture in the background
and they start to piece things and here
is Andrew Kovette on Benny Johnson's
show on September 11th. It's a still
here that we're showing you. And that
was all it took. I just love the
internet. Internet Slooh's got him and
Tyler Boyer. And here's the Asher Adams
Hotel. There it is. Bang. Look at that.
Blakey, ask and you shall receive. Now,
Blakey, now with that jogging your
memory, do you remember that you were at
Would you remember whether or not you
were stayed at the same hotel as Andrew?
I don't know. We're just um we're here
to help. We're always here to help.
A lot of things are happening right now
uh where it feels like evil is
ratcheting up. They just seem angsty.
They're angry. They're yelling.
And it's because I think we kind of all
have had the scales fallen from our
eyes. We recognize what this government
is and that it's left and right and
these people are positively disgusting.
And I don't know if you guys remember,
of course you remember, but at the
beginning of the Iranian war, which is
causing all of this craziness. They know
they can't win it. They don't want to
admit it. And I was just ranting at my
husband this morning over breakfast. I
could run a whole podcast where I was
just like, "How do we have a president
that was dumb enough to believe?" Okay,
you don't need to know no things to like
if someone came to me and I was
president of United States and they were
like, "Ma'am, we're going to take Iran.
We're going to take Persia in two
weeks." I would be like, "Get out of my
office." Okay. How stupid do you have to
be to believe that you could like we'll
take Russia in a week? Oh, really?
Really? I feel like it's been around.
It's been around. Iran's been around for
a long time. Okay. And inexplicably at
the beginning of this war, for quite
literally no reason, it still remains to
me to be inexplicable, the United States
at the instruction presumably of Israel,
bombed an elementary school in Iran, a
primary school. It's an elementary
school in Iran. 156 people were
murdered, including 120 students and 26
teachers. And the craziest part of the
story is that the United States tried to
deny it. Like, I just want you to
process how badly our government lies.
They thought, "We'll just deny it."
Like, you don't you don't know that you
you bombed a school. At first, Trump
actually came out and he said, "No, we
didn't do it. It was Iran." Pete Hexth
followed up with the same message. So,
we don't we don't we don't kill
innocents. Only Iran does that. They
just were like, "We're everyone's
idiot." And then the days that followed,
it was revealed that it tomahawks
missiles were used and that's only used
by the United States that struck the
school. And then Pete Hegth had to come
out again and said, "Oh, they were
committed to investigating." Like he
just wasn't sure whether or not they
bombed a school. Like you just do that
and you're not sure if you did that.
Like like he's remembering whether or
not he brushed his teeth that morning. I
don't know. We'll investigate. I don't
know if we dropped uh missiles actually.
And then they pivoted to Israel's
preferred line. You know, Hamas builds
tunnels beneath the schools. That's why
we do it. They kind of did that thing um
and said, "Well, it was the IRGC were
building missiles underneath the
school." Another complete lie exposed
not by the IRGC but Western News. Okay.
Sky News did an entire investigation.
You should watch the entire piece. They
debunked every attempt that uh the US
tried to put out. It's like they never
even said sorry and by trying to lie and
say a school held missiles. Take a
listen to just this little brief cliff
clip.
>> Mr. President,
>> did the United States bomb a girl's
elementary school in southern Iran on
the first day of the war and kill 175
people?
>> My opinion, based on what I've seen,
that was done by Iran.
>> Is that true, Mr. Hex? It was Iran who
did that. We're certainly investigating.
>> Still investigating.
>> The only the only side that targets
civilians is Iran.
A day after these remarks, an Iranian
state- linked news agency released
footage showing a strike on buildings
nearby.
Filmed in the afternoon on the day the
school was struck, the distinctive tail
fins [music] of a Tomahawk missile can
be clearly seen.
America is the only force in this
conflict that uses tomahawks.
In another clip, you see the school
being hit that morning, but it's not
possible to see what missile is used. 5
days after the Tomahawk footage comes
out, Defense Secretary Pete Hegsth
confirms America is [music] conducting a
formal military investigation.
>> We know that Tomahawk missiles are
typically fired from ships and
submarines. And we know that on the day
of the attack, America had a carrier
strike group in the area. This is I'll
get up for you a satellite image of
their carrier strike group with the USS
Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier and
then three warships around it in the
Arabian Sea 3 days before the attack. We
have another image which we've been able
to use to place them on the day of the
attack based on the information shown on
this monitor here. And that puts the
carrier strike group right within range
of Minab.
These are precisiong guided missiles.
They follow a programmed path. They have
cameras on the front that can watch what
they're doing in real time. They're some
of the most uh precise weapons that the
US has.
>> We know that by this point Iranian media
was already reporting that a school had
been hit and the US should have known by
that point that at the very least doing
more strikes would have been in the
vicinity of that school. One analyst
reviewing intelligence on potential
targets did reportedly spot the school
[music] in 2019.
Allegedly, they noted changes on an
unlin intelligence tool, [music]
but it wasn't passed up the chain.
The reason I'm showing you that is
because you should go and you should
watch that entire piece. Guy News did an
incredible job on that because it's
really important for you to understand
how much our government hates us. They
think we are so stupid. I mean the it's
one thing to say like, "Hey, we did this
by accident and we need to come out. We
need to own it." It is another thing to
routinely feed slop to the masses and to
do it while claiming you have the upper
hand to have willfully It was not a
mistake. You bombed at the beginning of
this in elementary school using what?
Intel? Do you understand how advanced
our our military technology is? They
knew every body that was moving in that
school and they chose to bomb it. My
honest belief, my honest belief is
because we are looking at people who
worship Bal and it was a sacrifice to
demons. Ball consistently must have
sacrifices. They It's why they love to
murder children. They're constantly
murdering children. There's no reason
why at the opening of this outside of a
pagan sacrifice to demons that you
murdered children and then lied about it
to your own people until it became
inescapable and you had to acknowledge
and then you really didn't acknowledge
or apologize and you just kind of moved
on and it's very important that you
realize these people what they are doing
in the Middle East is the plan for
America. I believe that from the bottom
of my heart. That is why I have used my
platform in every possible way to awaken
people to this. Forget the left versus
right. This is a a colony in the Middle
East. I'm referring to Israel that
worships Bal, worships murder. They are
obsessed with death. It it's constant
destruction. And I wanted to also show
you now they're telling Trump, who's
already done this, to arm protesters in
Iran. Buddy, there's no more protesters
in Iran. If people did not like their
government and then you started
murdering their kids and bombing their
bridges and striking their water so they
can't drink water, they're going to go,
"Okay, actually maybe Americans aren't
the good guys anymore. You're actually
unifying Iran in this moment because of
what we're doing and we have no business
doing. We have no business being there
outside of like Zionist rage and
ambition. It's it's completely crazy."
And yes, if you think that people that
lie like that would not be capable of
hiding up the murder of Charlie Kirk,
they just killed 150 kids and didn't
blink when they lied to you. This is our
government. We have to contend with
this. And who is he taking advice from?
Whose call was he taking? Who is he
retweeting? Psychos like actual
psychopaths like Mark Levvin who wants
now people in Iran to be armed because
they know they can't do this without our
sons and our daughters putting feet on
the ground in Iran. Take a listen to
Mark Levvin being overtaken by a demon.
>> He claimed that the Iranian resistance
has hidden crude weaponry and tools
throughout the country. Bricks, rocks,
wooden clubs, chairs, and tires used to
block roads, waiting for the day that
the people once again take to the
street. Will we not arm these people and
help them? Will we not arm these people
and help them?
They want to fight.
They want to defend themselves. They
want to overthrow this government.
What's the problem? I don't understand
it. I really don't understand it.
Small groups are working clandestinely
to procure firearms to distribute to
demonstrators utilizing guns stored in
certain private homes and smuggled from
abroad. You know, we're talking about
very few.
The protest leader claimed they didn't
specify who would be providing these
weapons.
There's clearly not enough. There's
clearly not what they need. If we give
them what they need, they will overthrow
this government.
When we went out in January, we were
like lambs to the slaughter. The the Baz
forces were using firepower.
>> You couldn't believe the streets were
like a graveyard. Corpses everywhere.
>> The streets ran red with blood, she
said.
Ran red with blood. Unable to contain
her rage and grief, she warned regime
forces, "Next time we come out, we're
coming out armed." Well, they're not
going to come out armed if we don't arm
them. NOW, LET'S ARM THEM.
These are the people that are advising
the president of United States who
actually believe that they were going to
take Iran in two weeks. That's the state
of affairs in America. It's just
important to understand that. Obviously,
we are now all uniting all across the
world. I have no quarrel with Iran. No
quarrel anything to me my whole life.
Nope. seems like they've been around a
long time. It's not my business. Like I
said, I would never allow my sons to
sign up for the military. People who
have served in the military, speaking to
um our security who had the stroke, like
never been treated with more dignity
than in Russia.
What what are we doing? It's something
has to stop. And um I think the first
thing that has to stop is our ignorance
about the fact that we have people who
demand nonstop blood sacrifice even from
their friends running our government.
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Okay. A top comment from yesterday's
episode. I loved this one from Alana.
She writes, "Yanking and banking my way
through the school pickup to get home
and watch the PGO." [laughter] Love
that. The kids are yanking. You're
banking. That's I mean that's just what
we do. That's what we do here. Dog
Whisperer writes, "Blake don't remember
nothing. He don't. He He just has these
blackouts." I even want to know like how
Blake got back to Arizona because, you
know, he talks about how he just was
Charlie's best. I don't believe anything
about Charlie being close to Blake. He
Blake is just such so obviously someone
that Charlie and I would have been like
had a nickname for because how could you
not? Like we watch Blake here and we're
just sort of like how is this how is it
possible that someone could be so
fundamentally unlikable and so
fundamentally unbelievable in everything
that he says and does. Total lack of
talent taking on the show the Beus and
Buttad show cosplaying as a Charlie Kirk
show. It's just it's just amazing to me.
And the only reason he's sitting there
is because Tucker Carlson uh did what he
could to help him after he got let go
from the from Fox for being a psycho.
Generally just being a psycho. And how
does he repay Tucker? By targeting him.
So it's not hard for us to imagine Blake
that you may have betrayed Charlie
because look at what you did to Tucker.
Look at what you do to Tucker. Anyway,
uh comments from today's episode.
Isabella writes, "Why would Erica
honored Charlie's wishes regarding a
Catholic funeral? They betrayed him in
his life. Why be faithful in his death?
Charlie never wanted a Catholic
funeral." That's what's odd about the
entire thing and why we covered um this
idea of a mock funeral that was done and
potentially him being cremated. She
said, "Why would a Catholic funeral home
conduct a mock funeral and then cremate
him? Cremation is contrary to Catholic
teaching." That is correct. And we
actually looked it up and for whatever
reason, I don't know why,
maybe a relic of the 60s in Arizona,
there is there are Catholic um funeral
homes that do offer cremation services.
It is positively wild to me, but we were
able to confirm that. Um and I I don't
have an answer for as to why that is,
but you are correct on the doctrine. Um
Zamit writes, "Candice Owens stuck
having to do Cash Patel's FBI homework."
And what is the thanks I get? I get
reporters asking me, "What if you get
raided?" For what? What are you looking
for that you don't have? You're the FBI.
You're the FBI.
Like I said, the information is
decentralized. Everybody has it.
Everybody's waiting. This is the first
time an investigation has been done like
this. And it's because Charlie's life
really mattered to a lot of people. And
the level of deceit and betrayal,
well, it is definitively biblical in
proportions. We've never seen anything
like this. Not even JFK story has these
sorts of elements and threads that we're
pulling at right now. Tagalong Kiwi
writes, "Those with true spiritual
discernment can see straight through UTP
USA. You will all stand before God one
day alone to answer for this. Go Max,
Candace. Especially while growing
another beautiful human being. Some can
see the truth all the way from New
Zealand. Uh, thank you so much. And you
are correct. It just it the dishonesty
is just radiating, right? They're just
they don't even know how to play not
guilty. Their first thing to do when we
release the footage rather than saying
thank you is to try to debunk it. Like,
oh, a baby could do that crawl. Like,
what do you why are you saying that?
Like any normal person looks at and
went, this person looks experienced.
What what psychological operation do you
think you can impart upon the people to
make them think believe that this was
just some inexperienced
20 to try on his first assassination
after eating a Chick-fil-A sandwich
and wrapped to go get a steak? Like I
mean like do you really think you have
like magical psychological powers? You
guys have been reading too much Sigman
Freud. That's the problem. Spiritual
discernment is on the rise right now.
You can feel it. The energy is building
and we're happier too and that matters
too. Like we're happier because there's
nothing about the truth that should
upset you, but there's a whole lot about
lies when they come undone that should
upset you and frustrate you and make you
angry.
Kate Grand Rapids writes, "Uh, no other
rooftop officers had body cam." H maybe
theirs died, too. That's a great
question. That is a great question and
hopefully more will come out. Um, as
this
unfolds in the courthouse, as this trial
unfolds, like I said, I'm team turning
point and wanting this to go forward cuz
it's already so absurd that I just think
it's going to be a massive revelation to
how corrupt our government is and people
need to see it. What we've seen thus far
is unbelievable
and yet we are being told to believe it.
Kiwi writes, "God is good. Christ is
king. May he protect Candace in the name
of Jesus and may he bless everyone in
the pursuit of truth. Yes, keep the
prayers going because they keep us safe.
I love that this person's username is
yanking banking and they say Christ is
king. It's it's a thing now, Frank. We
don't say mean stuff about you. We don't
say you should be struck down. He's also
used other similar rhetoric, by the way.
Like he did this whole thing where he
was like, "Why hasn't the MSAD killed
Candace and Tucker Carlson?" Like, why
would you say that, Frank?
Why is death on your mind so much?
Frank, why don't you just come sit down
with me, answer some questions?
Maybe there's a a total reasonable
explanation for the gloves, how they got
there, why everybody forgot about them.
We'd like to hear it. I said, I like to
ask questions like I did about Allen
Robertson, get the answers, then
immediately share that so people can go,
"Okay, we don't have to look into this
because he actually decided to leave
after serving uh in a city for a long
time. wanted some more space for his
kids. I did the same thing. I left a
inner city DC and came to Tennessee. Why
can't you guys just be that simple and
just like get us some information that
makes sense? Anyway, if you'd like to
support our show, you guys know where to
go. We have merch available on the
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Make a Sandwich right now. We're
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town and I think people think I'm
actually in the CIA. Anyway, you guys,
um, thank you for all the support thus
far. Stay happy. Remember that iron
sharpens iron. It is proverbial. And
remember to be happy warriors because
that's what Charlie Kirk would want.
We'll see you guys tomorrow.
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