Candace Owens Uncovers New Evidence Tyler Robinson Never Confessed to Charlie Kirk Assassination

All right, you guys. Happy Monday and get ready 

because we are going on a journey. I left you   guys on the ultimate cliffhanger last week. 

I did not intend to, by the way. I genuinely   wanted to get the information out as soon as 

possible that Tyler Robinson is not suicidal.   And I'm going to tell you how I know that. 

Also, while investigating this assassination,   there is a politician's name that keeps coming up. 

And now he's apparently mad that we keep asking   questions. I'm beginning to think that he might 

know something that he hasn't yet shared. So,   I wanted to kind of loop you guys into this and 

see what you think. Welcome back to Candace. Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. Tyler 

Robinson didn't kill himself. I mean,   these are the phrases that we now use and that we 

say uh when we expect that the federal government   is telling us a lie. Last week, I have to tell 

you, I was contacted by a source who I vetted with   information that answered a lot of the lingering 

questions that we've had about the investigation.   Not all of them, but some of them, some of the 

big ones. Uh first and foremost, we were like,   how exactly did it work? How did Tyler Robinson 

turn himself in as we were told, but also never   confessed? And did he actually author those absurd 

Fed messages? Cuz I'm thinking no. Lastly, what   was he doing at Dairy Queen? Doesn't really quite 

fit into our timeline. Also, don't expect this kid   who just tried out being a stone cold killer to 

really have an appetite. And why exactly did the   feds withhold that information at Dairy Queen? And 

why are they allegedly stalking the Dairy Queen to   see who comes in and out? Uh, well, we we have the 

story that could possibly potentially answer all   of those questions and it certainly makes a lot 

more sense than the slop that the government is   currently trying to feed us. First and foremost, 

Tyler Robinson has never confessed. They   acknowledge that he has never confessed to this 

crime and he still uh is pleading innocence on the   shooting. In fact, I was told that he was quote 

unquote bewildered by the idea that he carved   casings. I should be clear, he does not dispute 

the fact that it is his gun at all. It is his gun,   but Tyler is not exactly a gun enthusiast. He 

doesn't hunt like his other brothers do. In fact,   he's apparently a fisherman. The reason that he 

has that gun in the first place is because it is   in fact a custommade family heirloom. Tyler is 

the firstborn son. So he inherited. That's what   firstborns do. They get the family heirloom. 

That is why he has the gun. As many of you   guys have noted, the Robinson family appear to be 

conservative, hence the hunting and the fishing   uh as the the sports of their choosing. I am told 

that they are fans of Charlie Kirk and they are   fans of Donald Trump. Although this source noted 

that Tyler, like many other conservatives have   um expressed, wished that Trump would sometimes 

tone down his speech and his rhetoric. Now, on the   topic of rhetoric, I am told that Tyler absolutely 

did not author those text messages. What text   messages? He has no idea where these messages 

came from. Uh believes that they are therefore   entirely fictionalized. It turns out, you're 

going to be shocked that he doesn't actually   use words like vehicle. Uh which should come as no 

surprise to anyone that has a brain. By the way,   I'm sure you caught this, but um there's old 

footage of Tyler Robinson that is now circulating   from a car accident that he had. Uh, and during 

the discussion with the officer that showed up,   Tyler certainly refers to it as his car, not 

his vehicle, because that's how most Americans,   how most English speakers refer to a car, unless 

they're in the military or on the police force.   So, here is 2022 police body cam footage, in case 

you missed that, of Tyler making a crash report.   Take a listen. Your mom's on her way. Yeah, she's 

got to be a minute. She's got to shuttle over from   where she's at to her car and then drive over. 

Gotcha. His mother was going to shuttle over from   her car. H interesting. There's more. Of course, 

of most interest to me. what I've learned is that   his father uh does not believe his parents don't 

believe that their son committed this crime. I was   like, "Huh? Excuse me. That's a that's a far cry 

from what the media has been telling us. Remember,   the media presented this amazing story." Uh the 

father realized his son was guilty. So it goes,   right? And then he phoned over a friend to help 

him convince his son to turn himself in because   this guy, you know, this this mysterious guy 

was a friend and and just had a connection   with Tyler and eventually they said, "You got 

to do the right thing here. We know this is   you." That was the vibe. Certainly that's what 

the media was putting down for us to pick up.   Well, I was told actually that it was kind of 

the opposite. That quote unquote family friend   uh who we learned was a former detective with 

the police force um at least and so therefore   has strong ties with the police station informed 

the family. It was that in between person that   informed the family that Tyler had been identified 

as the shooter. He recognized him. He knows Tyler.   He gives them the heads up. And then I'm told, 

and I believe this, that the way in which he   got arrested, or rather turned himself in, 

was because that family friend slashneighbor   slashformermer detective told him, "Hey, it's best 

for you to turn yourself in because there's only   one of two options here. Either you turn 

yourself in and everything is peaceable,   or you know, the SWAT team could come in here 

and arrest you and things could get crazy."   So that's what happened. He went over 

to their house. Tyler was called over.   Tyler was bewildered. He disputed the idea 

that he had murdered Charlie Kirk. In fact,   according uh to my source, Tyler has never even 

stepped foot on UVU campus. Tyler, it turns out,   has which has already been revealed, um 

was accepted into Utah State University,   not Utah Valley. And that's actually interesting 

if you pause and reflect on that because we didn't   really consider how on earth Tyler became not 

just familiar with the layout of the campus, but   familiar with the rooftop layout of UVU campus. So 

familiar that he knew exactly how to scale across   the rooftops to duck down or in order to take an 

almost impossible shot at a Charlie Kirk who was   sitting beneath a a tent. How did he know how to 

do all of that? Had he been there before? that he   he knew where Charlie was going to be sitting in 

it that he would have that shot from on top of the   Loy Center. What? Right. I would actually and I I 

don't know, but I would imagine that even actual   current UVU students don't know that possibility. 

Like they're not even that familiar with how to   scale the rooftops and what shots they can take 

from it. We'll see. Uh, curiously, however,   my source says that Tyler Robinson was nearby the 

campus on that day. I'm wondering if that fact,   which I'm trying to learn more information 

regarding, explains the Dairy Queen photo because   what was he doing around the campus on that day? 

Where exactly was he around the campus on that   day? This photo never made any sense. I plugged 

it into my timeline. It wasn't fitting in. So,   if you're wondering why exactly Tyler would agree 

to go to the police station if he's not guilty,   um, ironically, the police were honest that 

day. Um, on one of the points, well, first and   foremost, that point is Tyler is not suicidal. 

Um, he wanted to go to the police station so   that he didn't risk accidentally getting shot by 

the police swarming his home. as I said earlier,   in a theatrical arrest setting. But rather 

confusingly, uh, Brooksby, Nate Brooksby tells   us that Tyler is suicidal. Whatever. Let's just 

take a listen to to what Nate Brooksby said after   he had been apprehended. Take a listen. So, so I 

get a call from my friend and his his said, "Hey,   how you doing?" Good. And it's not, you know, he's 

been retired a few years. He he'll we'll call each   other. It's not it's not unusual for me to get 

a call from him or vice versa. And at 8:02 p.m.   he calls me. Hey, I can tell his voice is kind of 

shaky. So, my first thought is who who died? Like,   who who's he going to tell me that died? And 

then uh and then I can't I couldn't fathom what   actually came out of his mouth. So, he said, "Hey, 

um I know who I know who Charlie Kirk Shooter is.   Um, I I know the family through religious 

association and uh he's in he's in Washington   County now and we're working on trying to get 

him to come involuntarily. During that phone call   um some information was provided about Tyler uh 

potentially having some suicidal ideiations was in   or out to a remote area Washington County. Um the 

parents convinced him not to do that and uh you   know conveyed that they would uh you know stand by 

him and help him help him um surrender peacefully. I'm told that's that's not true. That Tyler was 

not suicidal at all. He was just confused and   didn't want to get shot. Uh and then he gets to 

that part, right? He then tells us Brooksby that   he came in willingly because he didn't want to 

die. Let's take a listen to that portion. Within   the hour, um, my friend, uh, drove Tyler and his 

parents to my office where he was greeted by,   uh, plane closed detectives. So, that 

was part of the part of the deal is   um, Tyler knew it was just inevitable with all 

the law enforcement pressure that he, you know,   his picture in the news, the gun, the gun on 

the news, he knew it was inevitable uh, that   he would be caught. he was fearful of a SWAT team 

hit on his house or he was fearful of being shot   by law enforcement. So part of the negotiation and 

getting him to bring himself in was that that we   would we would treat it as delicate and as soft 

as possible to make him feel comfortable to where   he would he would show up at my office and that's 

exactly what happened. It can't be both. It can't   be both. Was he suicidal and wanting to die or 

was he worried about dying? It can't be both.   And I didn't catch on to that early on. It's the 

answer was he came in because he is not suicidal   and did not want to get shot and was confused 

as I am told. Now you're probably wondering   why the father and the mother didn't speak out 

to assert his innocence. That would make sense,   right? Uh why don't you come right out 

and dispute everything immediately. Well,   interestingly enough, I'm told that it's because 

the feds told them that if they spoke out, their   lives could be at risk. like they they needed 

to keep things private and they convinced the   family to go into witness protection. Like your 

lives are in danger. You shouldn't say anything.   Somebody could like, you know, just come back and 

and try to harm you guys because of what your son   did. You should go into witness protection and 

don't speak to anybody. Trust us. We're the feds,   bro. And they agreed, of course, in the fog 

of it all. Why wouldn't you agree? But then,   like any good maybe conservative family, you start 

going, I don't really trust these feds. Like I'm a   little suspicious about the feds. Here's another 

point of interest. Okay. His father had no idea   that Tyler was gay. That's what I'm told. They 

are learning this in and through the media. They   thought that Lance was just his roommate and they 

were especially shocked because apparently Tyler   kept mentioning to them that he wanted them to 

meet some girl that he was seeing. Now, I would   like to interject my own voice here and say that 

I think this girl was likely Lance and Tyler was   working up the courage to tell his family that he 

was gay. That is what is most likely in my opinion   because we know for a fact that Tyler was in 

fact in a relationship with Lance because we have   exclusive photos, by the way, they're about to 

show you uh that the two of them posted to their   Instagrams. This is Lance posting Halloween era 

photos. I forgot to post my boyfriend is the best.   Love you. Um, don't worry, that handle has since 

been taken down of what Tyler's handle was, but   he's got a handle that doesn't have his name in 

it, so he's maybe trying to hide this stuff. Um,   and then there's another photo of them. And this 

one's posted by Lance again, pics from when Tyler   had a mustache. You can see that they were in a 

relationship. Just makes sense that he was working   up the courage to maybe tell his family about 

that. Now, I was told also that Tyler is off the   charts intelligent and always has been. We know 

this. He had a perfect GPA in high school. Now,   that is precisely what made the idea of him being 

so stupid as to author a full confessional via   text messages pointedly absurd. Like, any person 

with a modicum of intelligence is going to go, I'm   not going to put this down in writing with every 

detail. Uh, and apparently whoever offered those   messages, likely feds, didn't have a modicum of 

intelligence or they would have maybe not included   every single detail there. Uh the family says 

that the photo of the young man that is coming up   the stairs which was shared that blurry image is 

definitively not Tyler Robinson. And let me just   say I never thought it looked like him. Neither 

did you. Okay. Face looks different. Face looks   more narrow. Also that person looks taller. Every 

time I say I'm like this person is taller than   Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson also appears to 

have full lips even though this image is blurry.   We're not looking for someone that's got a that 

got fuller lips. And Tyler Robinson looks broader   um than that individual walking. Right. So I 

I I'm on board with that person walking up the   stairs is not Tyler Robinson because I feel like 

it was intentionally blurred. They also never gave   us the footage at all because in order to blur 

it, they probably needed a static image. Also,   the family believes that um and this is really 

interesting, Tyler Robinson's apartment was staged   after his arrest. Now, you will recall that I 

spoke to Lance's family and one of the things   that Lance's family said was it was, "Hey, we own 

that apartment. They pay rent to us. I've never   we've never met Tyler Robinson." But I can tell 

you that it seems like they were trying to hide   the fact that this, you know, that this apartment 

got raided. And it's very strange that they   immediately cleared Lance as a suspect. And I was 

told by other people in the department that they   wanted to keep that raid very hush hush. Anybody 

know about the raid? There was no mention of this   raid. And Lance immediately gets cleared as a 

suspect. Why? Well, according to Tyler's family,   they went to that apartment after his arrest 

and they felt the apartment was staged and   that intentionally in Tyler's room, a furry bed 

was placed, almost sort of implying that they're   trying to transfer the attributes of Lance onto 

Tyler, and that's shady. But again, when I put   together what I'm being told by Lance's family 

and what I'm hearing from the Robinson family   uh through a third party, I will say that it 

matches. It kind of seems like they're agreeing.   One family's going, "Hey, Lance is kind of evil. 

Why is he getting why is he getting cleared?" The   other one's going, "Tyler's not this guy. Tyler 

is not this guy. So, what the hell is going on,   guys? What is actually going on right now?" 

There's also something else that's weird   that I want to uh mention here and that is 

the unusual lengths in which the media and   the sheriff's department. They've gone through 

all of these lengths I would say to protect the   identity of that former sheriff friend who was the 

one who convinced Tyler to turn himself in. Even   in that press conference, by the way, Brooksby, I 

don't like the way he's moving. I don't like the   way Nate Brooksby is breathing. I got to be honest 

with you, it's a vibe. For no reason at all,   he feels like he has to explain how he got on the 

phone with this uh sheriff friend of his. Like,   nobody asked you whether or not it was usual for 

him to call you. He's kind of overexlaining here   in my opinion. Take a listen. At exactly 8:02 

on the 11th, I received a call from a friend of   mine who happens to be a retired detective that 

worked for me for many years. Um, I didn't put   that out there initially. I wanted to protect that 

individual as much as possible. Um, unfortunately   in the court documents, which is standard, uh, 

he was referenced as a retired Washington County   deputy. So, I didn't put that out there. It was 

in the court docs. I was trying to protect even   that information and just saying retired law 

enforcement in general. Why are you Why are you   trying to protect him? Why did you feel the need 

to explain to us earlier? It was it's not unusual   for him to call me this guy, but I fortunate that 

information is in documents that he was, you know,   formerly working for me and working with me. What 

do you mean? If he was formerly working for you,   that would mean he was a public figure and this 

should be usual. Public figures, people that work   for police departments are always public and their 

informations are something their name is someone   we could easily research. It's nonsense. He's 

weird about this. He um says that he retired.   I think a journalist asks in the audience 

like you know that former friend detective   uh how long has he been off the force and he says 

I don't know if we have that clip or maybe we   didn't cut that Skyler but he's like three years. 

But actually we were able to figure out who that   individual was and it's I feel someone that we 

need to get in touch with. We've tried to get in   touch with him. Um, the name of that individual 

is is former Deputy Mike Mitchell. Okay. Deputy   Mike Mitchell. Now, oddly, despite a career of 25 

years in the police force, I can't find a single   trace of him in old newspapers. So, I'm looking 

for more information on this guy. I understand   that he knows Tyler through the Boy Scouts. He's 

involved in the LDS church. And I think Tyler   um was he was he was the Boy Scout leader. That's 

the connection there. We were able to confirm that   this Mike Mitchell lives on the block, uh, lives 

nearby, um, as was told via via other sources.   And thus far, we have only been able to even see 

a picture of him. There's just one picture uh,   or a set of pictures that we were able to find. 

And that again, which would mean Brooksby lied   a little bit. I don't like a little bit of lies 

because you usually have to lie a little bit when   there's something bigger that you're afraid of it. 

According to this post, he retired last January.   Here it is. On the left, you have Brooksby. I 

don't trust that guy. Just don't trust him. And on   the right hand side, you have Today, we celebrated 

the career of Detective Mike Mitchell. After over   24 years of serving, 24 years Washington County, 

he is retiring, starting in the jail back in 1999.   Uh, Sheriff Brooksby and Detective Mitchell both 

had some wonderful stories to share. We would like   to give our heartfelt thanks to Detective Mitchell 

and all who came out to give him a warm send off.   Congratulations, Detective Mitchell. This is the 

only trace of this guy I could find. That's weird.   I don't That is very odd. That is unusual. That is 

an anomaly. When you serve that long police force,   you inevitably make it into the news. So, I 

am asking and we tried to reach out to this   individual. We have had no luck. If you have any 

more information about this individual, if he is   your boy scout leader or he works for your church, 

please send us um tips at canesence.com. Guys,   I'm going to again say here we appreciate all of 

the tips, but please don't send us links to like   you know somebody else's video and their theories 

because we are it's we're very small team. There's   literally four of us and we want to get to actual 

tips pertaining to the questions that we're asking   and that we're looking for about the individuals 

that we're mentioning, not other people's   theories. If they have like a theory about what 

direction the bullet might have traveled, please   reserve that to um our social media handles, tag 

us on Facebook, tag us on um Instagram, and we'll   take get a look at those videos. But we really 

want to keep the tips lined for answers to the   questions that we're coming across. Um, and again, 

we appreciate you guys so much because we wouldn't   have gotten as far as we have if it wasn't for 

that tips box. I I do also want to say before we   get into reading um and telling you something even 

crazier that happened, I'm talking crazy crazy.   I do want to assert here that I'm uncomfortable 

with the fact that despite all the friends that   Charlie Kirk made, all the sch smoozing that 

he did, presidents, rights, department heads,   I am the only person that is publicly demanding 

further investigation into his assassination. Why?   It's totally rubbing me the wrong way. Something's 

not right here. Even Even Turning Point USA,   they're just like, "We've accepted. Obviously, 

there are holes in this narrative and they're just   like, "We're going to just keep up his show." What 

is going on? Actually, I just want to say that   and get that off of my chest. I don't like it. 

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visit tnusa.com/candis or call 1800-9581000. Okay, so something very strange happened this 

weekend and I need to tell you I need to tell   you guys about it. I need to offload this and 

get your opinion. Now, first and foremost,   I have to tell you about this student who I'm 

going to refer to as Nick. Nick is not his real   name. I'm going to refer him as Nick to protect 

his identity. Obviously, I came across Nick very   early on in this investigation. In fact, you might 

recall uh when I shared a photo online of a person   that looked suspicious. He was wearing like a 

black suit and black glasses and he seemed to   have a strap hanging out of his bag. Uh here he is 

right here and he was in the food court. I shared   that photo because Nick had sent it to me into 

our tips box and said, "This person looks rather   mysterious. he's running through the food court. 

And from from there, we kind of he kind of became   my boots on the ground. He's like, "Hey, I go to 

UVU. I'm a major Canis Owens fan. I want to help   in any way that I can." Okay. So, that's how that 

happened. That was really um and right away he   told me on like day two of the investigation that 

he worked on Phil Lyman's gubernatorial campaign,   Phil Lyman ran against Governor, the current 

Governor Cox, and he lost. And one day, very   early on, this must have been like day three, uh, 

Nick cold calls me and Phil Lyman's on the phone,   okay? Like I said, he ran for governor and I was 

prepping for the show and things were early on and   I was still in a very agrieved phase and I didn't 

really know I was on the phone with this guy,   Phil Lyman. I was like, "Okay, thank you so much. 

I appreciate that you're offering help." And um,   Nick insisted to me, he's a fantastic person. He 

has tons of resources. He knows the area. Uh, if   you need any help, he can help you. Okay, great. 

Fast forward to me looking into the witness list   and obviously we spoke about this Tiffany Peterson 

Barker. That very weird clip of her with her   nieces at like 4:00 a.m. in the morning speaking 

on Good Morning America and uh her energy was just   weird to me. I thought her being there was weird. 

Obviously, this is my podcast. I can say whatever   I want. We reached out to her and um then she 

gave us uh you know a ton of information and   but never actually presented to us. She never sent 

me directly any footage that could verify that she   was there when Charlie Kirk got shot. Okay. And 

she was a bit upset that I didn't clarify that.   I thought it was weird that she wouldn't just 

text me the footage because it didn't allow me   to confirm that she was where she said she was. 

That's what metadata is for. Metadata instantly   will say, "Here's where you were, at what time, 

and this is this person's iPhone." So, I wasn't   gonna lie to my audience. I just told you guys, 

"Hey, you can check her out on her Instagram.   Here's her excuse. She says that this is why 

her nieces said that." And we sort of moved on,   right? But then I then I learned from Nick that 

the photo of the person who was wearing that black   suit in dark sunglasses had come from Tiffany 

Barker's mother. I was like, "Well, that's weird.   whatever. And um then you will recall we learned 

from Tiffany when I was trying to figure out how   did you get this hit on Good Morning America? 

Like did you share something that would have   had them reach out? Well, then I told you she 

told us actually Phil Lyman is the person that   put me on Good Morning America. My sister ran 

with him as Lieutenant Governor. And I was like,   "Oh, okay. So Phil Lyman got you that that 

uh position on Good Morning America. you had   a essentially a connection there that made 

that happen. Don't know how I missed this,   but then I learned that Phil Lyman himself was 

very involved in all the communications that   immediately went out about the shooting and that 

his car was in the driveway of the now infamous   TMZ footage which showed the shooter walking twice 

that day by this house. In fact, Phil Lyman says   that he had just pulled into that driveway minutes 

earlier and had just missed the shooter. Here he   is in his own words speaking to Kaye Mcaney. Take 

a listen. I do want to linger on a moment for what   you just told us and I'm going to ask the team 

to pull back up that surveillance footage that   we've gotten from TMZ from those neighborhood 

cameras. You said that in that footage is your   driveway and you parked there at 11:30 a.m. We 

know this footage that you're looking at was   taken at 11:49 a.m. So So you would have been on 

that street. That driveway 19 minutes right across   right across Yeah. It's not my driveway. It's my 

aunt's driveway. Uh parking lot was very full.   He's walking he's walking in front of my aunt's 

house there right now. My cousin's house is the   driveway that is taking that v photo photo and my 

CRV, the gray CRV in the distance there is that is   my car. I parked there probably 10 minutes before 

he walked by. And I had not seen this footage till   just now and I'm I it just keeps so many things 

that keep uh linking up. It's really astonishing   to me. And then then we went back to this house 

afterwards. They thought they had the the shooter.   Uh so I took a friend of mine. We went back to 

my aunt's house. says, "Well, we'll just hang out   here for a while." Uh, and uh and and before long, 

the people were combing the backyard, as you saw.   She had the footage of that. And uh and pretty 

soon, helicopters are overhead. And so, this is   very very local to me. Very I mean, not only is 

it Utah, but it's kind of my neighborhood where   I spent so much of my childhood and all of my 

relatives. I This is This is really astonishing.   It's been a I got up yesterday morning at at 

6:00 to drive up and and meet Charlie and and I   uh I haven't been I haven't been to bed since then 

because it's just one thing after another after   another and so astonishing that this could happen 

in Utah. Now, just to be clear and to reiterate,   19 minutes before the shooter walks across, he had 

just pulled into the driveway. Phil Lyman pulled   into the driveway. He says that he uh saw Charlie 

Kirk that day. We're going to get to that. Also,   when he says like he grew up there and 

his family, I mean, his family owns,   we were able to determine 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 

12 homes right there. Incredible. Okay. Absolutely   incredible. And that his little press tour 

obviously now you're like, you know, explaining   your car was in the driveway, so it's a issues 

close to him. That kind of makes sense. Then,   um, he went on to Alex Jones and spoke about where 

he was when the shot rang out. And what's kind of,   and I'm laughing here because it's kind of absurd, 

he kind of sort of blames it on these two random   goth girls. Maybe like he's kind of implying like 

there were these girls that were wearing black   and maybe they should be taken a look at further. 

Take a listen. Just yesterday, someone comes in,   he says, "Yeah, uh, we we've got video." He came 

off the roof. He walked up. He came up here to   the uh parking lot, got in the car with with an 

individual and they and they drove away. Well,   that's not the story that came. So that he that 

he escaped another route and there there's there   are people who are coordinating this thing. I 

I do not believe that that 306 that they showed   recovered in the bushes was ever on the roof. I 

think it was in the bushes to start with. And now   I'm not saying that that Tyler Robinson wasn't on 

the roof. I'm not saying he didn't pull a trigger.   Uh I was I was in very very close proximity. 

So, another interesting thing, like I say,   I I left the front of the stage. I wanted to meet 

some of my friends and bring him down front. So,   I was clear at the east end and I heard this loud 

boom. I heard this loud bang. And I turned around.   I'm looking like, "What was that? What was that?" 

And and um pretty soon some people started, you   know, running. Everyone was trying to process and 

I thought, "This is a gunshot." And there's going   to be more of them. I thought it could turn into 

a mass shooting. So, I go to the people closest   to me. Everyone's ducking down behind the the 

concrete uh retaining walls and some of them were   still kind of oblivious, but there were two people 

that were standing there. Uh two girls, very goth,   very black, you know, and and I just walked 

I stepped up to the side of them and I said,   "Did that not happen right here? Did did you 

hear that? Was that right here?" They said,   "Yeah, it was just right over there." So, they're 

confirming, "Yeah, the shooter or or wherever that   sound came from is right here." The thing that 

didn't really dawn on me is that they were not   running. They were not frightened. In fact, as I 

stepped up, I heard one of the girls um and they   were talking to each other and they're looking 

at these kids, looking at the scene down below of   all these people fleeing for their lives. And she 

says, "Go f yourselves." Um and uh and and like I   say, I was not processing that. I was trying to 

figure out what was going on. I thought this is   a separate conversation. I don't know what it is. 

In hindsight, as I've watched that over and over,   it's like these these people were not afraid. 

Okay. Okay. So, what I get from that is he was   up high cuz he says they're looking down below 

and that maybe people that are wearing black are   immediately suspects. I don't know cuz they were 

not afraid. Anyways, he also went on to a local   Utah news station and spoke about how he was with 

Charlie just before Charlie went onto stage. Take   a listen. Phil, thanks for joining us first of 

all, but I saw a picture I saw a picture of you   with Charlie Kirk and it looks like you were like 

maybe right before he went on stage. Is this just   like minutes before this happened? Yeah. No, I 

was I was I was basically backstage and and when   he and when he came out I was throwing the hats. 

I was I was I was there. I was standing next to   the stage and I and I would have been there when 

the shooting took place, but I needed to go meet   some of my friends and I didn't want to just hang 

hang around. Uh, so there's a part of me that's   glad that I wasn't in close proximity and part 

of me that that um feels bad that I wasn't there   just in some form of moral, you know, presence 

and support. It's such a tragic thing. When I   combine those clips, I'm kind of unclear as to 

where he was exactly when the shots rang out,   if he was close or if he felt bad that he wasn't 

close. Anyways, uh, he went on to Instagram that   night as Tiffany was prepping her Good Morning 

America hit, I suppose. uh and he speaks further   about what he was doing back onto campus and what 

exactly he remembers. Take a listen again. This is   on September 10th and it's around 11:30 p.m. at 

night. Hey, it's September 10th, 2025 and I was   just heading back from Salt Lake to Blanding. 

I'm getting a very late start. It's about   11:30 at night and I wanted to swing back by UVU 

campus where Charlie Kirk was killed today. and   uh see if I could let a few of the police officers 

know how much I appreciate the work they're doing.   See if there's some college students here that 

I could rub shoulders with more for my benefit   than for theirs. But what I really wanted to share 

was I I was very close this morning where Charlie   Kirk was at. Met him backstage and we talked for a 

moment before he went on stage and I was backstage   as he started speaking then decided to go up top 

and and I went up uh to the top and ironically was   very close to where the shooter was apparently. I 

the the the shot was very loud and uh I determined   pretty quickly that whoever it was was on 

on the roof and it was a 200 yard kill shot. Where was he? I don't know. I find this to be 

a little weird, but look, let's be clear, by no   means conclusive of anything other than perhaps 

a strange coincidence and maybe this is why he   feels so impassioned and wants to keep speaking 

about it. Also, you know, he's a gubernatorial   candidate. Makes sense. uh this would be a 

political moment to show that you're a leader.   And look, life is not exactly an Agatha Christie 

novel, right? Where the guilty party somehow   inserts himself into the investigation. So, I park 

that aside. I keep pushing and I'm following more   public leads. But also I I do recall in the back 

of my mind that both Phil and Tiffany Barker and   as it would turn out another person that lives on 

that street with the last name Shamway kept trying   to get me to look into Governor Cox because he's 

according to Tiffany very supportive of the trans   stuff. You should look into Tiffany Tiffany 

said into Governor Cox and similarly um the   Shamway emails were like you should look into this 

Governor Cox because he he likes trans. So they're   open and close. That feels to me always just like 

fed bait. Left versus right. Right. He likes trans   people, so it has to be him. Okay. Oddly, look, 

I'm just following the facts here. Nothing in   my investigation has made me ha ask a question 

further about Governor Cox on that day. Nothing   came up organically, so I'm not going to push 

it just because he's a Democrat. And actually,   where I was at at this process, what's that? Oh. 

Uh, pushing that because Governor Cox is his, uh,   sorry, I said Democrat because he's his, you know, 

he's waring with him and that's the candidate   that he wants to go after. And I actually start 

noticing as I'm looking into this investigation   that everyone who is involved on that day, I 

mean, literally the person who spots the shooter   um on the roof, military, uh, the person who 

says, "Oh, the the he I just cap happened to   be in the right place in the flag of halls where 

I saw him running." also in the military. And I'm   starting to think, is it possible that this 

is like a military hit? I don't know, but I'd   like to find out. Next came a tip that you guys 

saw me receive live on the show. Someone paid a   woman paid to say, "Candice, there's more footage 

of the shooter on that day." And you should know   that that shooter was with a woman, right? That's 

a tip that I received. That that woman that the   shooter was with a woman and he was seen changing 

clothes and that they've cut out that footage. So,   I reach out to that individual and the name that 

they give me for the house that this took place   in and I'm able to confirm that this property is 

nearby is owned by Lyman Branch. So, now I want   to be clear, I could not attach whether or not 

yet this individual is related um to Phil Lyman,   but he's been honest about the fact that his 

family lives around there a lot. like you know   the Steel Lyman clan is is here. So I was a little 

bit on alert, maybe like a lot of bit on alert and   I decided to just do a ba a basic search into Phil 

Lyman. Like is is his family in the military? I   don't know. I'm asking the question to myself 

and I'm quite surprised that it's impossible   for me to find out who his mother and father are. 

Like I literally don't know what goes on in Utah,   but it seems like a very weird thing to me that 

you would be able to keep information about who   your mom and dad are private if you're running 

for governor, right? So, I just simply ask Nick.   I haven't shared any of this with Nick because 

I know that he worked for Phil Lyman and I'm   not accusing Philman of anything. I'm just like 

trying to actually shut that down. And he says,   "I actually I don't know whose mom and dad are." 

I'm like, "What do you mean don't know?" Okay,   weird. Whatever. I then decide to keep pushing on 

military leads that I have, people that were on   the ground that day who I've confirmed are in the 

military. Anyways, then something insane happens.   Nick calls me and he's a little bit undone. He 

tells me that Phil Lyman has just showed up at   his house. Now, I want to be very clear. Nick is 

20 years old. He's a 20-year-old UVU student and   a major super fan of Phil as of 48 hours ago 

and he's very uncomfortable. And he tells me   that Phil randomly messaged him saying that he was 

nearby in town in town rather and asked Nick for   his address, something that he he never had. And 

Nick quite naively and being this Phil super fan   thinks that Phil's going to come and offer him a 

job because he's being been so on it investigating   this Charlie Kirk assassination and that's not 

what happens at all. Instead, he says that he   shows up, he opens the door for him and his energy 

is very weird and he's asking him weird questions.   He's looking out of the window nervously. He sits 

down at the table. He's asking him questions about   my investigation. I'm like, I shared nothing 

with Nick. I literally was asking him, "Can   you go here? Pick up this whatever it is." And he 

is thinking this is getting weird. I said, "What   specifically did he did he say to you?" Well, he 

tells me that Phil has also set up a time to meet   with Ian Carol. Okay, so Ian Carol is conducting 

his own separate investigation. and we are not   collaborating at all, but he and Carol publicized 

that he was going up to Utah cuz he wanted to be   on the ground physically by himself and he was 

reaching out to people um that uh who who had been   speaking about having been there and Phil Lyman is 

so gracious that he offers to give him a tour. And   Nick tells me he's like that's really weird now 

because we're like two weeks on from this shooting   and Phil Lyman lives four hours away. So that's 

that's very very gracious of him to do, but his   energy isn't good. And then he mentions Governor 

Cox and he mentions Tyler Ber of Turning Point USA   and says that again this is according to Nick 

that Tyler Boyer and the the lineman have been   speaking and that they are you know really going 

to make Governor Cox and I'm I'm paraphrasing here   but apparently there's a a another Utah event USU 

event coming up and Governor Cox is supposed to   speak and Phil Lyman intimates that like you know 

this at this TP US event Governor Cox isn't going   to look great. I'm like what? He then tells him 

I'm going to go if you don't mind I'm going to go   take a phone call in my car. So he's just idling 

in a 20-year-old's driveway who just happened to   work on his campaign and he's on the phone and 

this is he's why he's calling me panicking. So I   don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I 

don't know what's happening. I don't know why he's   being so weird. I don't know why he's asking me 

questions about this investigation. And I'm like   uh yeah this is weird. This is very weird. So then 

I'm like I'm I'm honing in here. I'm like, what   what's going on? I feel like he knows something at 

the very least. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I   feel. And I begin actually searching through our 

tips box for anything related to Phil related to   Phil Lyman. Maybe somebody else noticed something 

or knew something or he said something. And lo and   behold, very early on, someone just messaged 

us and said, "Hey, like you should probably   uh ask more questions about Phil Lyman because 

every time I look into this investigation locally,   him and his family members are popping up." And 

then that person tells me that his nephew had sort   of done this public tour, like Phil Lyman's nephew 

did this public tour saying that he was going to   walk the same route that the shooter walked near 

his grandmother's house. And that they found,   you guys remember this, they found the Converse 

footprint nearby his grandma's house. And he   presented a map, like this is it, this is actually 

from his Instagram. He presents this map and his   nephew's name is Shane. This again, this was all 

public. I'm only looking at things publicly. And   let's just look at some of these posts from 

nephew Shane. I mean, first and foremost,   he he's with his friends. Said, "I took my friends 

to my grandma's house tonight and we re retraced   his steps and we took pictures in the exact place 

that the security cameras caught him. I've been   through this new experience for the last few 

days. I'm still very glad to have attended   and to support Charlie Kirk and to see him." The 

last pick shows Converse brand footprints and then   he does hashtags and here are him and the three 

friends. And by the way, I'm looking at his the   friend on the right and I'm like I don't know. I'd 

like to know who that is at the very least. And uh   I'd like to know who everybody in this photo is. 

This is just interesting. Like you guys are are in   the staircase and posting side by sides. They put 

these sideby-side photos of them in the staircase   and I just was like, I I need to just know more 

about you and I need to know more about these   two individuals who I couldn't find on his friends 

list. And they certainly hadn't liked the photo or   else I would have messaged them directly to figure 

out who they are. And yeah, I found I found that   very strange. And so I messaged Nick and I asked 

him whether or not he had ever received any images   or videos from Phil directly. At the very least, 

we can see his line of vision so I can figure out   where exactly he was when the shots ran out. Um, 

and I'm wondering if like we can maybe get some   footage that we didn't have before when the shots 

ran out. And also, by the way, metadata is king.   That's kind of been very it's good to see because 

then I can put it in my timeline. That's why I   love metadata. I can say this exactly happened 

at this time. Strangely, uh, Phil kind of freaks   out. He doesn't want to share those photos with 

Nick. And he asks him explicitly, "Whose side are   you on? Whose side are you on? I thought we were 

all on the same side. We're all trying to catch   Charlie Kirk's killer one way or the other. 

You You inserted yourself into this. Got on   the phone with me. I was not even trying to make 

any communication with you. I literally am just   asking questions." And now all of a sudden it's 

like, "Oh, you don't want to answer any questions.   You don't want to share anything." and he tells 

me that yesterday Phil Lyman just calls him and   he shouts at him like who the f do you think you 

are kind of a deal you know what I mean like who   are you to ask me for anything I already gave my 

photos to Taylor Hansen and so at that point I was   like look you've been great Nick but I don't want 

you being shouted out I don't want you feeling   comfortable in your own home I would like you to 

just remove yourself entirely from the boots on   the ground elements of this investigation I don't 

think Phil is acting in a way that I perceive to   be stable given the fact that again he inserted 

himself in this investigation and we're asking   this is my car on the street. Okay, you want to 

be helpful. We're asking you to be helpful and now   all of a sudden you're showing up at 20-year-old's 

house and you're being weird. I don't like it. I   don't I don't I don't like it at all. And I said I 

I could reach out to Phil directly by myself. And   I did. I reached out to both Phil and I reached 

out to his nephew Shane and I asked for them to   identify the guys in that photo. Uh, like I said, 

I was interested uh in who those individuals were   because I couldn't find it on his friend list. 

And in response, Shane immediately takes his   profile private. And Lyman, Phil Lyman, leaves me 

on red. So, I am now left in the predicament where   I need to just ask the public. If you are one 

of those two kids that are in the photos there,   I would love to ask you some questions since you 

publicized this tour. I mean, they even did the   full video walking through where he walked and 

you know, he said my uncle, he even posted he   posted Phil Lyman and my uncle was with Charlie. 

This is the video that they posted. Everything was   done publicly. And now I'm like, okay, you could 

maybe maybe you have something that's helpful I   want to ask you about. Could you send me that 

photo? Could you send me that video? Could you   send me all of this stuff? And now I'm getting 

radio silenced. So, unfortunately, because I   need to figure out what happened on that day, I am 

turning to the public uh to try to identify those   people and anything else that you may know that 

may help put things together uh for us. Again,   please reserve the tips at canisowns.com for 

actual tips related to the questions that we   are asking. Uh not for just comments, those 

sorts of things, videos that you'd like me   to watch or things that you'd like to do to point 

me into a different direction. Please just uh tag   us on social media so that we can try to manage 

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That's americanfinancing.net/owens. All right, you guys. So, what do you think? Is Is 

it weird for a gubernatorial candidate to arrive   at a 20-year-old's house? Yes, I can answer that 

for you. That is weird. That is very weird. That   was weird. Okay. There's no way around that. 

Um and again, hopefully he will answer and   he will just send me some videos and uh that 

will be yeah, that'll be uh case closed and   maybe he doesn't want to help anymore. That's 

fine. But you can't insert yourself and then   pretend you're under attack when people then go, 

"Hey, can you answer some basic questions?" Um,   Marzy is writing to us. She writes, "Looking into 

the bullet made me think of the poisoned bullet   when hit men intentionally use a bullet to cause 

a lot of damage from tumbling and fragmentation.   This is done by keyholeing the round to tumble or 

bounce into the body for internal damage causing   many wounds." I actually did not know that at all. 

I'm super ignorant um on the topic of ballistics   and things that are actually done. That is I never 

even heard about keyholeing. So, thank you for   sharing that. Caitlyn Derrian writes, "Candace, 

as a journalism student with an insatiable thirst   for the truth. You are a true model of real 

journalism. I hope to one day get the chance to   work with you. Keep doing everything that you do. 

May God continue to protect you and your family.   I love you, girl." Yeah. I mean, my insatable 

thirst is to figure out what happened that day.   Um my gut instinct is that this was a military 

operation. Uh based off everything that I've seen   and the lingering questions that I have and some 

other leads that we are working on, that's how   I feel. Um and even when I was trying to find 

Miss Mike Mitchell, I could find the Mitchell   family. I don't know if it's his family, but the 

Mitchell name in that area was coming up for like   Air Force. And so I again when I get into these 

places where I can't find any more information,   I turn to you guys to help me out. But I find it 

very strange that you would protect somebody who's   been on the force for 24 years. Like what? You're 

you've always been a public figure essentially.   And uh I I think Brooksby has some nervous energy 

there when he's like, "Oh, he called me. That's   just totally usual. That's not weird." It's 

like, "Nobody said it was weird. So why are you   answering for something that nobody said?" Little 

things like that. It's the same thing like when I   saw Tiffany's uh interview. I just I I just found 

it like most of you did to be odd uh given the   fact that the hit man was still on the run that 

you would bring uh your nieces there. And she gave   her explanation. And like I said, you can go to 

her Instagram. She has asked us repeatedly to send   you guys to her Instagram where she explains why 

uh her why they decided to go back that early in   the morning. And like I said, Phil Lyman was the 

one who got her the hit or Phil Lyman's office,   her sister got her the hit on uh Good Morning 

America. Kristen Theoret writes, "Canis, I am   so sorry for the loss of your dear friend. I agree 

that it's weird that the people closest to him are   just moving on. I feel this whole story is very 

twisted and you are the only one who is capable of   unraveling the truth." Yeah. And sadly, the people 

that I am in partnership with on demanding more   answers are not even people who were friends with 

Charlie Kirk. They're just like, "Obviously, this   is wrong and this is weird and I'm on the left." 

Maybe uh Max Blumenthal dropping uh he dropped   a bunch of articles last week and I think he's 

got more coming out. Why is Max Blumenthal, who   wasn't a friend of Charlie Kirk, more interested 

in what happened to Charlie Kirk than the people   closest to him? That strikes me as very odd. 

Just odd. I mean, no element. They could at the   very least name the donors, get a little bit of 

revenge. Name the donors who were pressuring him.   Tell the truth about what was happening there. 

They won't do anything. They're just like, "Oh,   it's all good. It's all good." No, it's not all 

good. Actually, not all good at all. Bitsy writes,   "The whole world is a stage used to hurdle the 

cattle in the direction that they want to take us.   It's all lies. I rejected all. Lord Jesus Christ 

is king." Indeed, Bitsy Miranda Allen writes,   "I wish I could do more. My thoughts and prayers 

are with you as you find truth and also mourn a   lost friend. God bless and keep you. Pray. It 

works. I I really do believe praying protection   over the people who are trying to discover 

what happened um is significant. It it is. I   I really do believe that everyone needs prayer 

and protection at this moment. Cassie writes,   "Many people I follow on social media have lost 

credibility with me because they are not asking   any questions at all. I can't imagine calling 

Charlie a friend and not questioning any of this."   Yeah, that's what's great. Like at the very least 

I would expect them to get up there and be like   what are what's up with these fed messages? This 

is weird. No, they're all just like let's move on   and uh we're just going to his legacy is going to 

be we're just going to continue the organization   without him. I mean like I was thinking if I'm 

Charlie and I'm looking down I'm just like what?   Dang. I thought we were super close. Really? 

You're like the vibes are not vibing there. I   know Savannah would investigate. Savannah's crazy. 

Savannah, she would investigate. She'd be crazy.   She was super crazy. She'd be wearing all pink 

going down to Utah. That's what Savannah would   do. Kaya writes, "It's 1963 all over again. They 

don't like people asking questions. Furthermore,   Ian being mentioned." Yeah, random. And I called 

Ian. I was like, "Hey, Ian, just letting you know   like um I don't know. I I don't think he's going 

to necessarily put you on a tour try to help you   because he's not being very kind right now to 

this poor guy, Nick, who was like a super Phil   Lman super fan. And uh I think that went sideways. 

Uh Kaya continues, "Prayer for you and him. You're   getting close to something. Keep going. Christ 

is king." Um and then my producer has a note   that there are a lot of comments asking about 

the microphone theory. Here's what I will say   about that. I when I first saw the footage thought 

as well that something came upward. Um but when I   looked at image from the side, the microphone is 

still on him afterwards. So like when you see it   for it looks like it kind of disappears but 

then it kind of shifts when you look at the   um when you look at the the perspective slightly 

to the left you see that it actually stays on   him and it's just in the fold. Again I don't 

know enough about weaponry to say that that's   possible or not possible. But I would imagine if 

anything did sling into him uh with that kind of   a force it would fall off. And I can tell you it 

doesn't fall off. There's another theory that I'm   still looking into that has been presented that I 

think is definitely interesting. It's definitely   interesting and I'm trying to play my cards close 

to my chest as I ask certain questions. Probably   will have more on that maybe tomorrow or the next 

day. But um yeah, I I I do think it's very weird   that he was miked after he sat down. Tell you that 

that's never happened to me at a Turning Point   event. They Mike you backstage always. Um, so 

yeah, I I thought that was strange. There's a lot   of things that were being done for the first time 

that day. And I'm going I'm planning on revealing   all of them. By the way, I'm just waiting for 

everybody to like join me. Where where where   are Charlie's homies at? Why are you guys all 

silent? Something's not right. I know it's not   right. Okay. Uh, we don't know now, but we know. 

You know, we don't know, but we know. And soon   we're going to know no. And that's all I'm going 

to say about that. We'll see you guys tomorrow.