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Candace Owens reveals stunning new developments in her investigation into Charlie Kirk's assassination, identifying international connections and challenging the narrative being pushed about Kirk's final stance on Israel. She confronts Turning Point USA executives directly, claiming Kirk had explicitly told Jewish donors and leadership he was abandoning the pro-Israel cause just 48 hours before his death. With new evidence linking Phil Lyman's associates to an Austrian software engineer and a gothic underground scene in Provo, Owens demands answers about what she calls a potential "regicide" - the assassination of a king to install new rulers he never would have approved.
International Connections Uncovered in Kirk Investigation
Candace Owens has identified one of the mysterious individuals who accompanied Phil Lyman's nephew Shaner Broderick in retracing the killer's path. The individual is an Austrian national named Gernot, who worked as a software engineer for Bearingpoint in Austria before relocating to Utah in May 2024 to work for JP Morgan and Chase. The discovery came after no one in the United States recognized either of the two individuals photographed with Broderick at the scene.
According to Owens, the lack of American recognition suggested the individuals might be from overseas. Using facial recognition technology and internet searches, investigators matched Gernot's face to a German-language blog about a hiking trip and a YouTube video from his former employer Bearingpoint. The timing of his move to Utah, just before Kirk's assassination, has raised questions about his presence at the scene.
Phil Lyman's Contradictory Statements
Utah gubernatorial candidate Phil Lyman contacted Owens after her previous episode, disputing several claims and requesting clarifications. Lyman insisted that Shaner Broderick is his cousin, not his nephew, despite Broderick publicly identifying Lyman as his uncle on both Instagram and LinkedIn. Following Owens' investigation, Broderick completely wiped his LinkedIn page, deleted his Facebook, and privatized his Instagram while removing all photos related to his investigation of Kirk's killer.
Owens presented footage from Lyman showing his location when shots were fired, which contradicted his public statements. While Lyman told both Alex Jones and News Nation that he was outside when he heard the gunshot, metadata from his own video shows he was inside the Sorensen Building at 12:23 PM and calmly walked out after the shooting. The video also shows his interaction with two individuals he described as "gothic girls" who seemed unfazed by the chaos, though the footage reveals a normal conversation with people simply wearing black.
When asked three times to help identify the two individuals photographed with his nephew/cousin, Lyman claimed he had no idea who they were, despite their apparent closeness and presence in the neighborhood during the investigation.
The Gothic Underground Connection
Investigators received a tip from Belfast, North Ireland, identifying the second mystery individual through facial recognition technology. The only hit came from a website called Buzzards and Bees, described as a "gothic underground in Provo." The website featured photos from a gothic prom, and the individual's face matched someone in those photos wearing gothic makeup. The person remains unidentified, leading Owens to suspect he may also be from overseas, as no one has come forward claiming to recognize him despite the large audience following the investigation.
Detective Mike Mitchell's Background Revealed
New information has emerged about Detective Mike Mitchell, who appeared to be protected in media coverage despite his long tenure on the force. According to a 1999 article titled "Police Surf Internet to Snag Pedophiles," Mitchell worked as an undercover detective creating online messages to entrap pedophiles by pretending to be underage. Mitchell, who worked for the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office, had been investigating child sex crimes on the internet for about a year when the article was published.
This revelation takes on additional significance given the case of George Zinn, the decoy boy who was later arrested for having images of child sexual abuse on his phone. Owens questioned whether Zinn had been blackmailed into playing the decoy role to give the shooter time to escape.
Suspicious Timing and New Protocols
Owens identified multiple "firsts" and unusual changes leading up to Kirk's assassination. A supplier who had provided bulletproof vests to Kirk for all campus tours revealed that his contract was suddenly cancelled before the spring semester. When he asked why, he was told Kirk wanted to go a different direction with an army-style metal vest instead, though Kirk was not wearing such protection on the day he was shot.
The scheduling of two Utah events just 20 days apart struck Owens as highly unusual, as Turning Point USA typically schedules events in the same state back-to-back to maximize efficiency. Kirk was set to speak at UVU and then at USU just under two hours away, breaking from normal protocol.
Kirk was taken to Timpanogos Regional Hospital, which was not the closest hospital and was only a Trauma 3 center, less equipped than other options for the type of wound he suffered. The hospital had just announced a new CEO and head surgeon named Andrew Zenger on the same day Kirk's tour dates were announced.
Additionally, FBI Director Kash Patel had fired the chief of the Utah FBI bureau along with other personnel shortly before the assassination, replacing them with Robert Bulls, a decades-long DC veteran, in what appeared to be his first week when Kirk was shot.
Charlie Kirk's Final Stance on Israel
Owens directly challenged the narrative being pushed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and others that Kirk died as a friend of Israel. Netanyahu recently released what he described as a "love letter" from Kirk written in May, expressing support for Israel. However, Owens disputes this characterization entirely.
She stated unequivocally that approximately 48 hours before his death, Kirk informed people at Turning Point USA, Jewish donors, and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause outright. According to Owens, Kirk explicitly said he refused to be bullied anymore by Jewish donors and expressed wanting to bring Candace Owens back to Turning Point USA as part of standing up for himself.
Owens challenged Turning Point USA executives to issue a statement calling her a liar if this information is false. She demanded they answer explicitly whether Kirk expressed these sentiments, whether he wanted to bring her back, and whether he was then shot 48 hours later before their reunion could happen.
Questions About Turning Point USA's Response
Owens expressed disgust with how Turning Point USA has handled the aftermath of Kirk's death, questioning why the organization is not shutting down Israel's attempts to reshape Kirk's legacy. She demanded to know the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the Hamptons weekend and asked Pastor Rob McCoy whether he or his son were being paid through LLCs outside of Turning Point USA.
She described the situation as potentially akin to a "regicide" - the assassination of a king to install new rulers the king never would have approved of, with people around him perhaps betraying him. Owens questioned whether some individuals feared that Kirk would transform Turning Point USA into an organization more aligned with figures like herself and Tucker Carlson, moving away from the pro-Israel stance that major donors demanded.
She called out what she sees as a coordinated campaign, noting that the same people are making videos at the same time, posting at the same time, many of them accepting money through Israeli agents or receiving contracts through organizations claiming to be 501(c)(3) Christian fellowships.
Additional Developments and Call for Information
Owens revealed that she spoke with Tim Ballard, founder of Operation Underground Railroad, as Phil Lyman was reportedly meeting with him on the Saturday he stopped by Nick's house. She plans to reach out to Ballard for more information about this meeting.
She continues to seek help identifying the gothic individual photographed with Shaner Broderick and the Austrian national Gernot. Owens emphasized that the investigation is getting closer to the truth and promised to reveal more information about where Kirk's wounds were located in upcoming episodes.
Owens urged her audience to focus on truth above all else, stating that she sees a spiritual war against evil that requires both left and right to come together against authoritarianism. She encouraged parents to remove their children from public schools and universities, describing a real communist underground that seeks to control children's education and minds.
Video Transcript
I just want to say that I feel like at
the beginning of this investigation, I was very clear. I said there will be no
fakeness and there will be no gayness in this investigation. And apparently there were some
people who did not take me seriously or literally because there are a lot of little lies being told,
right? Charlie gets assassinated and the very people who were threatening him reputationally
and financially are now trying to memorialize him as having died as a friend of Israel. Okay,
challenge accepted. All lies will be revealed and we're going to help reveal those lies. Also,
yesterday we asked for the public's help in identifying two individuals who Phil Lyman's
nephew described as his close friends who decided to retrace the path of Charlie's killer.
And what we have discovered thus far is absolutely stunning. This story couldn't get any crazier. By
the way, I did speak to Phil Lyman and I'll tell you what he told me and what he insisted that we
clarify. Now, I would say that it's getting weird, but honestly, right from the jump, it's
been weird. So, welcome back to Candace. [Music] It took him a little over two weeks, but now
BB Netanyahu with maybe a little help from Turning Point USA, I'm thinking, is releasing
the letter, the May love letter from Charlie Kirk to Israel. Just out of nowhere, he
was just overcome with love for Israel, and he decided to write this love letter uh to the
prime minister about how they could fight harder, how they commit themselves further to the
Israeli cause. We're going to get to that and we're just going to slaughter that narrative
that Charlie died pro-Israel. But first, I want to jump right back into what we uncovered
yesterday to keep you guys focused. I presented to you guys in short that the gubernatorial candidate
Phil Lyman was a bit, in my opinion, too involved uh in the investigation of who assassinated
Charlie Kirk just he was saying and doing a little too much. and his energy was weird and
the energy of Tiffany Barker was weird and we were clear that's potentially just because, you
know, he's a politician or an aspiring politician. Maybe he wants to assert himself as a leader
in Utah. This assassination has taken place. But I also felt like maybe he potentially knew a
bit more than he was letting on. Now, the Lyman family in general was everywhere all over this
investigation. Uh, we introduced and I I said his name was Shane. I'd like to correct that record.
His nephew Shainer Brderick who rather notoriously retraced the footpath of the killer with his two
close friends. They were like, "Here, here it is. The Converse footprint is right here." They even
created a map. Okay. Shainer even created a map of where exactly uh the killer walked and the media
used his map. And of course, Phil Lyman's car was in the driveway just 20 minutes before I Phil
Lyman uh reiterated to um Fox News, it was just 20 minutes before I pulled into the driveway at
my aunt's house and I parked my car and then 20 minutes later, the killer killer was limping by.
Now, I'll let you guys know that when our episode finished yesterday, I had a message or two from
Phil Lyman, despite the fact that I had reached out to him hours before we began our show. And he
was understandably upset. He at first was sort of focusing his energy toward Nick, the person that
I told you worked on his campaign and just wanted to help out in the investigation. Now, Phil would
like me to clarify that Nick never worked on his campaign. And by the way, I looked back and
that was actually my mistake, not Nick's. I thought that when Nick had first introduced Lyman
to me over the phone that he said, "Oh, like I am um you know, I'm I'm working on his campaign
and apparently that was not accurate." So, I take full credit for that. That was completely
again something that I came up with by accident. Now, the other things that he was interested in
me clarifying were also not really substantive issues. And I want to say that Nick having not
worked on his campaign actually makes it even more odd that he would stop by uh his house this
past Saturday. Well, regarding why, by the way, he stopped by Nick's house at all on Saturday,
he said that it was because he was helping Nick out early on in the investigation. Yes, that
is true. I told you guys that. And Nick was particularly asking him to determine who owned a
white vehicle that was parked in the neighborhood, which was nearby where the shooter had walked.
Nick lives nearby. And everyone locally had had looked at this vehicle and said that it was
remarkably suspicious. And Phil had come back to him and said, "I can help you just figure out
more about this vehicle that was parked." Nick had nothing but a picture of that. But that was over
two weeks ago. So I have no idea why that would have anything to do with why he was stopping by
Nick's place. Obviously that car is long gone. It's been gone. And the fact that it appeared
and then disappeared is one of the reasons why Nick wanted somebody to look into it. So I'm not
entirely clear uh why he needed to stop at Nick's house to speak to him and what why that would
be on his list of things to do. Now, I am told according to a very strong source that was what
Phil Lyman was doing um in town on Saturday was he was meeting with Tim Ballard. That's totally
random. Did not expect to hear that. Tim Ballard, if you are not familiar with him, is formerly
of Operation Underground Railroad, which um is a charity that is dedicated to helping
to stop human sex trafficking. I even remember, by the way, when we were all speaking about
that plane transponder that turned off that the individuals that owned that plane were wearing an
Operation Underground Railroad t-shirt. And so, I wasn't expecting that. I am going to reach out to
Tim Ballard. I know him. I've actually interviewed him and I used to donate to that charity because
I was so moved by my interview with him when I was working for Prager University. Uh, but moving on
from that, Phil also disputes something that was quite strange, that Shainer Broadick is his
nephew. I said, "Okay, wait a minute." Um, actually Shainer Brderick literally posted that on
his Instagram. He said, "My uncle Phil Lyman, but Phil seems like he's trying to distance himself
for some reason from Shainer." He said, "Actually, maybe Shainer's confused. We're just cousins.
We're just We're just cousins." Okay. Okay. Well, Shainer must have been very confused because it
was also posted on his LinkedIn as a connection that Phil Lyman was his uncle. Uh it's probably
part of the reason politically speaking that um he was chosen for an internship uh with Senator
Mike Lee of Utah. I I feel like that was a little bit of political maneuvering. So, I'm not clear
why that he's suddenly saying that it's not his nephew. Anyway, it's not up to me. I'm not
here to get into the middle of a family feud. But something interesting happened since our ep
episode. Shainer completely wiped his LinkedIn page. Doesn't want to know doesn't want to know
who he's connected to. He's also completely wiped his Facebook page entirely. And regarding
his Instagram, he's privatized it, but he privatized it and then removed all of the photos
of his investigation uh into who Charlie Kirk's killer was. Now, that's not that doesn't make
any sense to me. I don't understand that. I can't make sense of why um you would just move to delete
everything when I reached out to you uh as opposed to speaking to me about where you were, why you
shot this video and maybe sending me that video in general. Um but again, that is now a dead end.
Now, I asked Phil Lyman three times via text um whether or not he could help us, more importantly,
identify the two individuals that were in the photo with his nephew or cousin, if you will.
and he was kind of pretending to be confused about what photo in particular I was referring to
despite the fact that I sent it multiple times in the text chain. And then finally he said that
he had no idea who those two individuals were at all. I thought that's interesting. This is
allegedly your nephew cousin. You guys are all chilling on this block around the same time. He's
with these two individuals. You've never heard of them. You never seen them? Nothing. Because uh I
got to identify that guy in the blue hat. Many of you figured out, by the way, and and wrote to the
tips box exactly what we were interested about in that person with the blue hat. Uh you noticed the
same thing that we noticed. He kind of resembles, certainly more so than Tyler Robinson does, the
blurred image of the individual that was coming up the stairs. I I couldn't look away from that.
I was going through the photos and I was going, hm, I would just like to quick quickly identify
that individual and check him off and just know where he was because yeah, I it looks to be
about the same height. It's weird. Oddly, this is when I say oddly, I mean this has
never happened in the history of all of our investigations. No one emailed us to say that they
knew either of those two individuals. either the blonde that's with Shainer or the person that is
wearing the blue hat that is with Shainer. I said, "That's weird. Nobody in the whole wide Candace
Owens universe of investigation." It was making me believe maybe those two individuals are like,
I don't know, from overseas. Like maybe they're not even American. And it turns out, yeah, we were
able to identify one of those individuals in the photo and he is Austrian. It's no wonder nobody
recognized him. I mean, what Austrian? What's this Austrian guy doing? How did we get here?
Anyways, his name is Gerno. and we were able uh to find that his face matched with photos
from a blog post that was written in German. Um that was basically entitled anniversary hike
10 years on foot to the sea. The blog is about a group of 30-year-olds who are recreating a
hike that they took together when they were 20. Um now I don't even know if I'm saying his
name right. Gno Gernot. I guess it's a it is a uh it is a common name in Austria. And there are a
few photos of him uh that were available. We were able to find his face also matched up in a YouTube
video for a company called Bearing Point where he is seen with a group of people and is introduced
as one of their software development teams um a member of one of their software development
teams. So let's take a listen to that clip from YouTube. This is the Bearingpoint office
in Gratz. This is where Bearingpoint's key technology competencies are concentrated.
This is one of our software development teams. Some people are managers and some are
not. It doesn't matter. It's all one team. Very recently, he moved to Utah. According to
his LinkedIn, which I hope doesn't get wiped. I'd love to get in touch with him. In May of
2024, he moved to Utah to become a software engineer for JP Morgan and Chase. And I guess
the story goes that he became best friends with Shainer Broadick. I don't know. We'll find
out. Now, what about the other guy? Right. So yesterday we were kind of poking fun at the
narrative that Phil Lyman seemed to be trying to spin, suggesting that quote unquote Gothic girls
might have been suspicious that they maybe could have been responsible or aware at least that the
shooting was going to occur. That was a part of his story. He saw these Gothic girls and they
did they seem un unfased in all of the chaos, you know. And I thought that was an interesting
way to describe someone as Gothic. Gratefully, Phil Lyman did send us footage of him after the
shots rang out. And I am saying shots plural for a reason uh because we will show you that video. But
first, I want to recap what specifically Phil said publicly about where he was when the shots rang
out because I vaguely remembered him painting a picture that he was outside. Uh that certainly
seems to be what he told both Alex Jones and uh News Nation that he was outside when the shot
rang out. Let's take a listen to what he said on Alex Jones. Just yesterday, someone comes in,
he says, "Yeah, uh we we've got video. He came off the roof. He walked up. He came up here to
the uh parking lot, got in the car with with an individual and they and they drove away." Well,
that's not the story that came. So that he that he escaped another route and there there's there
are people who are coordinating this thing. I I do not believe that that 306 that they showed
recovered in the bushes was ever on the roof. I think it was in the bushes to start with. And now
I'm not saying that that Tyler Robinson wasn't on the roof. I'm not saying he didn't pull a trigger.
Uh I know was I was in very very close proximity. So another interesting thing, like I say, I I
left the front of the stage. I wanted to meet some of my friends and bring him down front. So
I was clear at the east end and I heard this loud boom. I heard this loud bang and I turned around.
I'm looking like, "What was that? What was that?" and and um pretty soon some people started, you
know, running. Everyone was trying to process and I thought, "This is a gunshot." And there's going
to be more of them. I thought it could turn into a mass shooting. So, I go to the people closest
to me. Everyone's ducking down behind the the concrete uh retaining walls. And some of them were
still kind of oblivious, but there were two people that were standing there. Uh two girls, very goth,
very black, you know, and and I just walked I stepped up to the side of them. I said, "Did that
not happen right here? Did Did you hear that? was that right here? They said, "Yeah, it was
just right over there." So, they're confirming, "Yeah, the shooter or or wherever that sound came
from is right here." The thing that didn't really dawn on me is that they were not running. They
were not frightened. In fact, as I stepped up, I heard one of the girls um and they were talking
to each other and they're looking at these kids, looking at the scene down below of all these
people fleeing for their lives. And she says, "Go f yourselves." Um and uh and and like I
say, I was not processing that. I was trying to figure out what was going on. I thought this is a
separate conversation. I don't know what it is. In hindsight, as I've watched that over and over,
it's like these these people were not afraid. Okay. And on News Nation, I want you to listen
carefully because he at first says that he was about to walk into the building and the shot rang
out, but then he says he ran out of the building after the shot rang out. So, let's take a listen
to that. I walked up top. I had to go meet some people. So, I said, So, I was down there when he
started his when he started talking. I thought, I'm going to go up top and meet some of the
people. So, I got up clear up on top and I was just coming around the corner walking into one
of the buildings and I heard a loud bang that I thought was right behind me and I turned around
looked at the the girl that was there and she was kind of looking stunned like what was that and
I'm looking at her and then see a little bit of commotion. I realized right then it's a gunshot.
So, so I ran out uh the people running into the building. I ran out to see who it was. You I'm
thinking this is this is a lot of kids out here. And and then pretty, you know, a few minutes later
then the police were running saying, "Did anybody see? Did anybody see?" I think it was on the roof
above me. I really uh is is the only thing I could figure because it's like he has to it had to have
been very very close to where I'm standing. And in hindsight, I think it was probably above me on
the roof. Okay, so a couple of those statements are what I would describe as little lies. Um,
well, they're just not true because at 12:23, according to his metadata, because he sent it
to me, Bill Lyman was inside of the building and he must have then immediately, according to our
timeline, hit record and he didn't run. He calmly walked out of Sorenson building. I hope I'm saying
that right, the Senson building. And he wasn't the only one that was walking calmly. And I'm not,
by the way, none of these people are suspicious to me. Walking calmly because they're inside the
building, not really sure what they heard perhaps, and they're all kind of walking calmly out.
And I'm going to show you that footage. And to be clear, you're going to see two girls
that are simply wearing black. By no stretch of an imagination would I refer to these girls
as gothic. Uh, actually, I think one of them is actually a guy, but they're wearing black, not
dark makeup. There's just black. And he asks them, what I can hear audibly is he asks them, "What was
that?" Uh, so I I don't know how certain he was that it could have been a shooting, but we're
I'm going to let you watch it first and then we're going to try to clean up the audio. Now, if
you're listening to this on a podcast and you're not be able to watch this, you might want to turn
this down uh because it is visual. Take a look. So you can just sort of see everyone on up top.
A couple of people were actually out there are ducking. He was on the inside. Like I said,
this was at 12:23. So he was inside, walked out, and then he's going to start a conversation
with two people that are just wearing black. And then you see he continues if he digs on for
like three minutes and he just he just sort of walks down and he engages in a conversation with
those two girls and they answer him. Doesn't there's nothing here that seems to me to be
controversial. Um when he hears them say something about FU, it's before he has a conversation
with him. It does happen. Uh take a listen. trying to isolate this audio for you guys. Those
those are the two girls he's talk talking about. [Music] You see where that came from? It was right
here, wasn't it? It was like over here. Yeah. So, he says, "Did you see where that came from?"
It seems like a normal conversation. Kind of weird for me. And there's a reason why I'm saying that.
to hone in on these two individuals and to say like gothic um and to pretend that they were doing
something that looked abnormal given the fact that in the longer video everyone up top is quite calm
because I don't think they're really entirely sure what is happening. Uh and some of them are
ducking because maybe they saw it because they were outside. So I wanted to get to the bottom as
I said earlier of who that second person was in the photo with his nephew, cousin, whatever you
want to call him. and we got just one hit and it was honestly it was from Belfast, North Ireland,
no less. Somebody sent us an email and he said, "Look, I conducted an interview an an internetwide
search of the person's face and I only got one hit using technology." And the the hit was in Provo,
Utah. and he wrote to me that it was quite a coincidence because not only is the person in
Provo for this one hit for the space, but also uh he's featured on a website pertaining to bees
and he's like, "Didn't you just do a thing saying that you had this weird thing about bees and you
thought there, you know, there was something else going on?" And my goodness, you guys, I almost
jumped when I learned that that website he was referring to, Buzzard and Bees, is a gothic
underground in Provo. Okay, so this is this is the website. It's a Gothic underground of all
things in Provo. The website Buzzard and Bees and they're speaking about a gothic prom. That is
where that person's face comes up except he's wearing makeup to make him well look a little
more gothic. Take a look at this. I'm going to show you the side by side of this individual.
And I am certain can't say 100% okay because we need to find this person's name. But this is a
match. Okay, the ears, the chin, just everything about this individual is a match. But he is as of
yet identified as a goth uh unidentified, pardon, as a gothic person. And he is also as of yet
unidentified um as the close friend of Shainer Brderick who cannot uh be found anywhere else or
people are not familiar with this person. So I'm thinking maybe he also came from overseas. Now,
quickly regarding our question pertaining to Mike Mitchell, right, I was saying that it was pretty
odd and obvious that they were trying to protect this detective Mike Mitchell. We also learned
that he's a boy scout leader uh in the LDS church, but usually if you have a long tenure as a
police officer, you're just featured in a lot of articles. Uh, and then we received some leads
that I think have helped to clarify exactly what sort of a detective he was and maybe why he was
not featured in a lot of articles because he was, as it appears to be, uh, a undercover detective.
By all accounts, he was an online detective. Apparently, if this is the correct Mike Mitchell
and given the timeline of when he becomes an undercover detective, I have a strong hunch that
it is the right the right individual because he says, you know, he was on the force for 25 years.
This individual began his career in 1999. Uh his job, Detective Mike Mitchell, was to create
messages online to entra pedophiles. Okay? By pretending that he was underage. You guys know,
you've heard about these sorts of stings. uh you pretend that you're underage as an officer and see
people that try to hook up with you. Um and then you make an arrest. And so we can take a look
at this article from November of 1999. It says uh police surf internet to snag pedophiles. And it
tells us Mike Mitchell sits at a desk tapping on a computer keyboard and becomes a boy. He's chatting
with someone now. His words are full of typos and misspellings and childlike phrases. Mike Mitchell
is not a boy. He is a police detective hunting for a pedophile. But the hunted doesn't know that.
Mitchell, a detective with the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office, has been investigating child
sex crimes on the internet for about a year. I don't think people realize how big it is. He he
tells them. Okay. So, that's interesting to me. Okay. And we we can't then go, okay, let's make
a jump here. Just because he's creating messages online first and foremost doesn't necessarily mean
that he's the person that authored the fake bed messages. And I and I'm implying that, but I do
actually thought it was quite interesting because when we covered George Zinn, who was the decoy
boy that day, who then we find out is into um uh pedophilia, right? And he gets arrested because he
has children being sexually abused on his phone. Absolutely despicable person. It really made us
wonder, again, I said this on a previous episode, whether or not he had been blackmailed in some
capacity to play the decoy boy and to give the shooter time to get away. I just find that to be
interesting. A lot of stuff happening right now, guys, and we are definitively getting
closer to what took place on that day, and we have a lot of leads that are coming in.
Um, and I want to say that I want to refocus your attention and now open this up internationally
because I have a hunch on who that goth kid is. Okay. Somebody attended this goth prom in Provo,
Utah. Somebody overseas perhaps recognizes that person. Like I said, I would I would venture
a guess that he is not from Utah because I've never seen uh no hits come in. Somebody saying
I went to high school with him. And um yeah, that's what I want you to focus your attention on.
tips@caniswowens.com. Again, reminding you guys, please do not send us uh because we're we're such
a small team. Please do not send us Tik Tok videos and saying you should watch this or you know, look
at this theory. Reserve that to simply tagging our accounts when you are on those specific apps
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I mean, the attacks have not stopped. The attacks that are coming at me are good, though, because
I am just feeling more and more energized by them. I understand exactly what is going on. Um,
the people fighting for Charlie Kirk's legacy. I got to say this. You know what? I am starting to
think, and let me know if you think this is crazy, but I'm starting to think that the assassination
of Charlie Kirk uh was something akin to a reicside, right? The assassination of a king
to install a new ruler who the king would have never approved of, right? Maybe people around him
counseling the king, people who perhaps betrayed him. because there are just too many things that I
am finding out that are not adding up to me. Okay, there are also I do want to say this, too many
first times leading up to this event. Okay, one person who emailed me uh said, "Hey, I've
been supplying bulletproof vests to Charlie for all of these campus tours and suddenly last
semester, last spring, the last campus tour, they cancelled. They canceled my contract with them.
They did not want to renew. When I asked them why, they told me that Charlie wanted to go a different
direction by getting an army vest instead, like a metal army vest, I believe, is what he
says. And he said this made no sense to me. Didn't understand it. Okay. So, Charlie decided they
decided to use a new company, even though I don't think he was actually wearing a bullet vest on
that day. So, what happened there? I'm not sure. Something else that is really bothering me
just because I have done these campus tours is the question of why Charlie was set to do
two events in Utah a mere 20 days apart. Okay, he was supposed to do UVU and then today was
scheduled to do just 20 days later USU. Now, those two campuses are uh just under two hours
apart if you're driving. Why on earth would he schedule these events apart? It's not how Turning
Point USA normally decides on their events. If you're going to do uh two stops in one state, they
make it happen back to back because it doesn't make sense uh from a fuel perspective, from a
traveling perspective for you to go in and out of one state. Plus, they only have a limited number
of events, right? So, they want to make sure they can go all over the United States and see as many
students as possible during every tour. This is how it works. I know how it works because I came
from Turning Point USA. Okay. I have toured with them every year with the exception of this year
uh since I uh started working for Charlie. So, that just struck me as very odd. Okay. We've also
received or maybe I should say maybe not odd, just something new maybe. Uh we've also received
a lot of tips that the hospital that Charlie was taken to is not the closest hospital and it also
would not have been the number one choice hospital for someone that was suffering from that sort of
a wound like it was uh a trauma 3 center. He was taken to a smaller regional hospital that was a
little farther away and was further away and was also less equipped for the trauma that he suffered
that he was taken to Temponogos Regional Hospital. And also something new is that that hospital had
just announced that they had a a brand new CEO and head surgeon named Andrew Zanger. a lot of new
stuff happening. And to be clear, typically uh the states dictate the protocol and you're required to
after you have a certain number of attendees at an event, you are required to have an ambulance
on standby. And I don't know Utah state law. Uh but I also found that that weird uh that there
wouldn't have been an ambulance on standby. Again, correct me if I'm wrong. Uh but seemed atypical to
me. Now, in terms of other things that were new, they announced uh on that same day that Andrew
Zanger was announced as a new CEO, that was also the day that they announced Charlie's tour. They
announced five dates and two of them were in Utah uh dispersed throughout the month. And it is also
interesting to know that the Utah FBI also got a brand a new set of employees, the state FBI
department. Cash Patel went ahead and fired not only the chief of the Utah bureau uh but also
some other people. You can see this in the Daily Mail article. They recount this after Charlie's
death. Cash Patel questions grow as it's revealed he gutted the Utah FBI leadership before Charlie
Kirk's assassination. That is true. He fired the chief among other people and replaced her with
Robert BS in in August. I think Robert Bulls actually it was his first week uh when Charlie
got shot and he's somebody who has been in DC for decades. So seems to me to be an unusual placement
to then want to reup your entire life assuming you have a wife and kids and move to Utah. But
whatever. Again everything just feels a little too brand new to me. Then I speak to the individual
who I told you guys that I recognized that had taken down the cameras minute what was it minute
four after Charlie was shot. the back camera of all the ones when you take the front camera.
I don't know. Again, I'm not here to read into how people might act in an emergency event, but I
thought it was weird that he was there in general, actually, that he was behind Charlie the entire
time. I've never seen that. He's never been behind me at an event. He's never been lingering around
me at an event. And I asked about that. I asked about just his presence behind Charlie. Um, and
plus the mysterious phone call that he was seen making in like minute three after Charlie uh was
assassinated. And he he told me explicitly that they were trying something new that day. Like it
was something new. Charlie's super ambitious. And on the AV thing, they were trying something
new and they wanted to be able to feed it back instantly uh to Arizona. None of it makes
sense to me because these events are typically live streamed. But again, something new. Okay, so
let's stick with that theme. Do you want to know something else that was brand new leading up to
this event? Charlie's perspective on Israel. Okay, so let me say this so you can hear it. Charlie
Kirk's perspective on Israel was not starting to shift. It had shifted entirely. Okay, there are
no ifs and there are no ands and there are no buts about it. Israel knew that. Turning Point USA knew
that because Charlie was explicit. So my question is, why isn't Turning Point USA making any
statements and shutting down this repeat attempt by Israel to lie and to pretend that towards the
end Charlie was just authoring love letters to Israel, giving them a perspective of here's how we
can win uh the prop. Here's what you guys need to do. You need to work with this hell, whatever it
is. You have the same people that are calling me anti-semitic. You need to work with those people
harder. And he was just putting it on paper. Was it an email? What was that that they were sharing
on the New York Post? The Israeli Post, right? What were they sharing there? He wrote of his deep
love for Israel. He had nothing else to do in May. Wrote of his deep love for Israel to a letter
to Netanyahu. Netanyahu said they were close, but in the letter Charlie puts his number, which
apparently Netanyahu didn't have his number. Um, and we're supposed to believe did he send that
as an email? By the way, can somebody clarify? Was that an email they were sharing or did he send
it in the mail to him? Could somebody share that, please? I'm assuming it was an email. Can someone
share the time stamp on that? Just kind of like authenticate that email because I'm very aware
of what's going on. Okay. And I don't know how the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep
at night. Okay. I don't know how you can present yourselves as a Christian organization and not be
dedicating yourself to the truth. No matter what the cost is, you tell the truth. That's it. Okay?
You don't hide hide it. You don't try to obscate it. You don't try to say, "Well, wait until wait
until the the memorial event before we start looking into who murdered him, you tell the truth
and you tell it immediately." And I don't think they're capable of doing that. And I have an idea
as to why that is. I think the same people that were pressuring Charlie are pressuring them. In
fact, I know that for a fact. So, they might need my help. Okay, I'm going to state this and um I'm
going to challenge Turning Point USA executives to issue a very clean statement saying that I am
lying if this is not true. About 48 hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people
at Turning Point as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the
pro-Israel cause outright. Okay, Charlie was done. He said it explicitly that he refused to be
bullied anymore by the Jewish donors. Did Can you guys answer? Did he express that um did he
also express that he wanted to bring me Candace Owens back because he was standing up for himself?
And then did he just 48 hours later conveniently catch a bullet to the throat before our onstage
reunion could happen? It's a yes or a no. Okay, let's stop this ditching. Let's not the dodging.
It's like explicitly I want to hear from Turning Point USA that I'm lying about that. I want
you to say no. No, it was just um you know, he was feeling a little bit of pressure. No, I
want you to literally answer what I have just said. It either happened or it didn't. I'm either
making it all up or it happened exactly as I'm saying. And while we're at it, may I ask, what
is the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the Hampton's weekend? Okay. and to Pastor Rob McCoy.
Um, were there any LLC's that you or your son were being paid uh through that sat outside of Turning
Point? I'm asking that question genuinely. Yeah, I'm putting the fire here right at the feet
of Turning Point because I am disgusted. I am genuinely disgusted. I am looking around and
wondering whether Charlie's entire life was The Truman Show. None of you guys are behaving in the
way that you should be behaving. Okay? There is no way you are letting these lies fly. Unless,
as I am hearing, unless it is true that there was a big big big payday that was on the line.
And if Charlie radically stated that he was done with Israel, if if Charlie said he had no choice
but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of, and I quote, Jewish donors, the behavior of
Jewish donors, if he said that, yes or no, well then I don't know, maybe maybe some people
Did it want to take that risk that he was going to what become Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson at
Turning Point USA with all of those uh presences? Uh so much presence across college campuses.
Maybe they didn't want to take a chance. You see, I'm just one person, so it's easy to just try
to cancel my life and lie on me every second of every day. But Turning Point USA, I think,
got a little bit bigger than Charlie. And I'm no longer going to allow this lie in this
narrative. So answer the questions yes or no. And I'm going to again challenge you to lie. And
uh if you do lie, I'm going to expose the lies and I'm going to start dropping videos actually. So
that's where I'm at. Enough of the gains. Enough with trying to allow Israel to wrangle a narrative
that you know is not true. Charlie did not die pro-Israel. He did not die for Israel. He did not
martyr himself as a friend of Israel. In fact, the friends of Israel were pressuring him really
badly and he was done. And he finally stood up for himself. And I'm proud of that. And I will
say this. You know what? somewhere Charlie is watching. Okay, and I hope he knows that uh we are
reunited. Okay, we're on stage right now and the Jewish donors are very angry about it. Extremely
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clear. I'm done dancing. I am done dancing with all of these frauds. It's just unbelievable.
Um it really is unbelievable. Do me a favor. Uh, don't ever let anybody try to speak out who
just tortured me my whole life and then pretend to say something nice. Please don't do that. That
just call them out on being hideous individuals. You know, when you end up in a world where like a
couple of days before Charlie Kirk dies, someone like Laura Loomer is calling him anti-semite
and she's funded by the one of Charlie's donors, Bob Showman, who then does a 180 and is now
pretending that she is morally fighting me to stop researching into Charlie's murder. You
know exactly what kind of world you live in. Politics sickens me. It really does. Everybody
who has a little a wish out there, oh Candace, like jump into politics. I hate these people. I
hate everybody involved in politics. It is all about money. Okay? They all sell their souls for
money and there are no real relationships. And I hope that you are learning that. Um if you're
you're getting a lesson about that right now and it's not left or right. Um I think which
is something that I learned. It is not left or right. It is just individuals selling their
souls. Comment from Rose. Rose writes, "No matter what videos I've seen from people on the left or
right calling you crazy, I call it faking gay. You have my full support. Truth is all that matters in
Crisis King." Yeah, here is the thing. People know truth when they hear it. Okay? You know truth. You
know truth when you see it. You know when people are lying and you can see the campaign now. It's
obvious, right? It's all the same people making videos at the same time, posting at the same time.
people that are accepting money through an agent of Israel somehow. I've also got contracts got
contracts as well. Um how these people are getting paid quote unquote 501c3s dedicating themselves
to the fellowship of Christians and I mean it is a really disturbing market. But you would think
that following an assassination that people would tether themselves to reality that they would say I
want to fight evil and they would therefore commit themselves to truth. What I'm seeing right now
is just stunning. It really is. I mean, I think um uh his name online is anomaly. AJ tweeted, "Is
this what happened after the JFK assassination? Did all of his friends uh race to say, don't
investigate. Don't investigate. Accept the narrative as it is. Maybe we weren't alive.
Maybe." AJ Murphy writes, "I'm a progressive who disagrees with you on a lot, but as a fellow
Catholic, I see the Holy Spirit working through you to find truth. We are fighting a spiritual
war against evil. The left and the right must come together to fight authoritarianism." How to
do that? By the way, I want to say this to people at home, take your children out of these schools.
All of them. Okay? I cannot stress this enough. Homeschool your children. Make it work no matter
what. Stop sending them to the universities. Okay? There is a real underground. It is a communist
underground. It is real. It is 100% real. It is not imagined. And what they want, the one resource
that these people want are your children. Simple thing that you can do. Okay? I know it takes
a lot of adjustment. I'm waking up and I'm homeschooling my kids. Um, and but by the way,
it's the most rewarding thing in the world. Also, it just started this week. Uh, so it's only been
for two days, but it's incredible how happy it makes me knowing that I am I am doing something
to buck the trend as we are slipping further into authoritarian rule. Ashlin Bigalow writes,
"Advocating for a weekly Candace crash out followed by, I'd like to apologize for my tone 10
seconds ago." Yeah, I'm I'm kind of Yeah, that's I should do that. You're right. And I do I should
apologize for my tone maybe like five minutes ago. I'm trying to be more conscious, but I am h man.
I'm working on this anger. I'm working on uh just really appreciating how fake and gay it all is.
Like I am just seeing these people just say move on. Move on from Charlie. It's good. We're going
to accept the narrative. We're just going to let the FBI do what the FBI does and we're just going
to pretend these glaring obvious lies and holes mean nothing and also work behind the scenes with
the very people that were torturing Charlie. That is just not allowed. It's not allowed. Natalie
writes, "Canis, I am giddy af watching you today. You are on fire to your audience. Let's keep
up the prayers, y'all. Christ is king." Um, thank you so much, Natalie. I really appreciate
that and I appreciate all of your support. Marzy, um, thank you for your support. Marzy writes,
"Hey, Candace, in my super chat yesterday, I got keyholeing and internal bullet bouncing confused."
Oh, okay. I remember that you commented about that. Keyholeing is if the bullet is too slow
and tumbles and has external impact. The other is pinball bullets where they bounce internally
causing internal damage to the target. So pinball bullets are the ones that cause internal damage.
Very interesting. Um George writes, "We love you, Candy." Oh, uh I pray the truth gets out soon.
Keep up the great work. The truth, George. It's inevitable. It is. It's uh not fun to be a liar
because you got to squirm. And I I appreciate the hand that they played here. I I totally get
the hand that they played here. They are lying. Uh there have been a lot of lies that have been
told from the very beginning and the idea that Charlie was per when he died ends today. That just
ends today. Uh HMM writes, "Please stay safe. Uh if I buy a shirt, please don't do a Cardi B and
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loved that yesterday's episode, the number one comment was that Charlie used to say that like go
with your gut. There's there's something there. And I'm realizing more and more, guys, like we we
have a God intuition. That is our gut. Your gut instinct is your God instinct. And we all know
something's not right here. And the media has never worked harder to try to tell us, "No, no,
no, no, just move along." And yeah, I proclaim reicide. Okay? I don't like it. And we are getting
closer. So again, be uh very uh I guess careful or or mindful rather is a better word there. Be
very mindful if you are sending us a email to tips@canison.com. We are still working to identify
our goth suspect is not the girl who was wearing black but rather the person that was in the photos
with nephew cousin Brick. Um and we if you know something please send us tips at canace.com. Uh
we will have more for you tomorrow. Some other stuff that I've been holding close to my chest
about where we are hearing uh Charlie's wounds were. So I I hate to leave you on a cliffhanger. I
don't actually hate to leave you on a cliffhanger. It brings you back. And I love you guys. You guys
keep us fighting. We'll see you tomorrow. [Music]
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