[Music] Today we're diving into the cultural phenomena that is Candace Elliot. Whether you love her or you love to hate her, there is no denying her influence. She has become one of the most recognizable and controversial voices in modern journalism. Resonating deeply across pop culture and politics. From her viral takes on social media to her unapologetic commentary on everything from race to gender to government overreach, Candice is a force. And in this episode, we go deep talking everything from vaccinations to Harvey Weinstein, Blake Lively, and Justin Baldoni. We even get into why people are suddenly obsessed with Mcronone's wife. Nothing is off the table and everything is up for grabs. So, buckle up. Keeping it real with Jillian Michaels. really annoying. Let me do a little recap here. You've just ran from a tornado warning. You're about to have your fourth child. You get up at 4:30 in the morning to exercise and some woman Jessica Reed Krauss crazy town has put a hit on you. She's put a hit on me. What the What the hell is going on? All of my friends are like worried about you. Tell her she's a national treasure. Do you know this is happening? I'm like, who is this lunatic? You got what's going on? I feel like you're responsible for that. I think she's from California. I feel like you've got to tell me what's going on in the water over here. Oh, crazy is going on in the water over here. I think Gavin Newsome is injecting it into the freaking reservoirs that happen to be full. Um, but yeah, what what this is about RFK? I don't even understand. You know, I have somewhat pulled back from politics. So, it was very confusing for me because I was just so nice to her. It's very strange like as you and I are sitting and and and speaking and we're having a great conversation to connect with somebody like on a personal level, have things be great and then a couple of weeks later you find out that and you you can read their messages cuz her her writers are giving them to me and she's horrible. Like she's speaking about we need to take out Candace. I like take out like the brain or just ruin her entire life and her families. What is that? It's crazy. And her writer was refreshingly honest. Like she has this writer Emily Hagen and me and my PR person, we were laughing about it cuz he was like Andy Cohen should scoop her up. She has this rare likability factor where she's so honest about something she's done. It's so It was like so terrible. She was like, "Yeah, I wanted to take you down. I wanted to ruin your life." She's like, "I don't know why I got completely crazy." She's like, "Sometimes I think I have bipolar disorder and that's why I like Kanye." I mean, she was just telling me everything. She was like so honest that I couldn't even be mad. And and she was telling me, "This is what we did. Here are the text messages." And I don't know why I got so obsessed with taking you down because she thought and she described it as like she had kind of concocted a conspir conspiracy theory in her own mind and she believed it about related to Kanye West and I'm like I've never even met Bianca Sensori so this is crazy and I'm but how did Jessica get involved like this is the person running the company right so you're the person who's got to kind of assign some reality here and go hey we just had this person on our podcast if we have any questions about anything we can just direct them to her and apparently She genuinely based on the messages that I read believed that I was trying to copy her brand. Oh, this is why she wants to kill you. Because I So she like because I covered the Blake Lively trial, which is like the most covered thing in the entire world right now, but clearly anyone who's speaking about it is only speaking about it because they want to be House and Habit. And when I read these messages, I went, you know what? I this is so middle school. I I I really can't engage any further cuz I can't believe this goes on and this has to be like La La Land stuff because serious people are not communicating like this. Like there's nothing in my brain that would ever go why did Jillian Michael talk about Blake Lively? Is is she trying to be me? Does she want to be me? Candace Owens. I'm going to take her down. I'm going to destroy her. That is the question totally I have ever So looking at all of this right now and you've covered some awesome stuff, some crazy stuff. What is on your radar right now? Everything. And I think that kind of gets into like the busy mom thing. People are like, "How do you plan your show?" And I really give people just pieces of myself. Like I It's like talking to my sisters on the phone where we're randomly talking about this, we're talking about that, we're talking about this and you're kind of interested in everything. is I think women are really good at multitasking and I'm following all sorts of things and they're it's truly my passion like I have been such an advocate um for women for parents to be informed about vaccines. So one day it'll be like totally dedicated to talking about health topic the next day I'm like deep cuz I love legal arguments. I'm just like deep in the Baldoni Blake Lively suit because I'm like this is amazing. There's so many layers of that lawsuit that are just absolutely incredible. Um really like Okay, so have you gotten into it? No. And here's why. Do you know Do you know some people? No. I I genuinely hate gossip. I'm not traditionally This is This is such a stereotype. This must be my inner misogynist. I find that so many of my female friends, including my wife and my daughter, by the way. They love gossip. My wife would kill me for saying that, but she does. She knows about it. I can't stand it. I don't give a about Blake. This one isn't gossip. And that's what I try to explain to people. The reason people are being drawn to this lawsuit is not because it's gossip. It's not like, you know, the Kardashians, watching like a season of the Kardashians and things like that. It is like one of the most evil Hollywood plots. Like you couldn't even write this in a movie. This is is what it's looking like between a couple with a tremendous amount of power being Blake and Ryan who were just going to like take over and destroy a man's entire life because they wanted to put her name on a movie. And then you get characters like Taylor Swift involved. You're reading the messages and what's interesting is that you're finally able to see like what Hollywood tells you someone is like their brand, you know, the Taylor Swift brand of Goody Too versus like what's maybe going on behind closed doors and like did she get involved? I thought she didn't get involved. Well, Blake says she did. There's a Blake Blake's messages. So Blake could be a liar, but the evidence is that she's not lying because then Justin also that people are digging up old interviews similarly said like you know Blake was involved in picking characters for the movie and I mean Taylor Swift was involved in picking characters for the movie, casting characters and so what it is is it's people are feeling like for the first time like Hollywood which has looked like a shiny penny you're starting to go wait a second what is this? Because these are the people that say, "We're good people. We donate. We attended the AM." It's all virtue signaling and you know it. That's what's crazy. And now everyone else is starting. Ryan is a nasty piece of work. Oh, I'm so disappointed. Oh god. I could never watch. You know who tried to warn us? Martha Stewart. Really? Martha Stewart. I pulled this clip from my show. She was on some random game show and they asked her like who would she want to cook with or whatever and the guy was like Ryan Reynolds. And she was like, "I know everybody thinks he's funny, but he lives in my building and he's he's really not." And she heavily implied that he was like not a nice guy. And she just said it in the most Martha Stewart boss way. And and everyone's looking at that now being like Martha Stewart knew that Ryan Reynolds was insane and actually like a mean person. I'm so disappointed. He uses his character, but he's not. He uses his character to bully people. So, he's not playing Deadpool. He's playing Ryan Reynolds. And he has like it's it's a there's a psychological phenomenon with this with his case where it's just shocking just like that. I thought he was so nice. I thought he was so funny. He's totally insane. Like he's totally insane, controlling, demented, and he went through great lengths to make this puppy. I call him a puppy because I disagree with everything about Justin Bodon's politics. But man, if he isn't really not virtue signaling like he is like genuinely like just like a sweet little soul who just wants everybody to be happy and doesn't want to, you know, partake in anything. And Ryan some Ryan was triggered by that and he when you just see how he went after him and wanted to make him know like I am the A-lister. You are crap. We will do whatever it is that you want. we will destroy you because we can because I mean getting WME to drop him because I'm friends with Taylor Swift and she's our god godmother. I mean it's it's it's like watching a scary movie. So that's what people are drawn to. It's not because it's gossip. Like you know I'm not into like reading US magazine and like this person divorced and like whatever. So freaking intelligent. So if you're on to it, there's got to be I couldn't look away. I was going what? This is like an act of it's an act of evil and you just everyone's just waiting cuz we're going you're not allowed to get away with this. Like we all are now teaming up left and right going like whatever that is, you're not allowed to get away with that. You can't just like pummel a kid and like then like leave him in a locker and like we've all like found it now and we're like we need justice. We need justice for Justin Baloney like Yeah. And so it's it's been fun because it has been this like rare uniting case with the left and the right. I think on the right principally I've always found problems with the me too movement because of just this reason. But I mean colluding with the New York Times to ruin his life to take him down. I mean this was like some A-list WME I Ari Harwitz before he before he stepped down from the CEO a couple of weeks ago. His name is Ammy Ari Harwitz. I don't even I Candace CEO of WME. I stay so Listen, I grew up in Los Angeles. I have seen it since I was a kid and it is a dirty business. People are vicious and cruel and they are I'm sorry. There was a guy who ran NBC when I was there named Paul TGI. He was effectively, by the way, Justin Baldon's lawyer, Brian. Um, he was tossed out of NBC. He was head of NBC, Paul Telegi, by Brian Freriedman, Justin's lawyer. And he wasn't he was a he was a monster. I'm not even going to he and they were all like that. I'm sorry. But what do you think it is about Hollywood? See, this is an interesting perspective to add to it that facilitates that kind of behavior because that's what's so shocking. You can't behave like this in the rest of the world. This is like a weird bubble where people are just so they do things and you just go what is wrong with you? It's the culture. So think about who's going to be drawn to that kind of power and that kind of individual will exert their will in in whatever way necessary to maintain power and to maintain wealth. Hollywood is just a little microcosm of the same crap you see in super corrupt industry no matter what it is. Right? But what's so nefarious and filthy about it is that there's all this virtue signaling that you're a really good person when it's the exact opposite. And what I can tell you is that everybody who's a really good person has subsequently had things come out about how they're not a really good person. Um, and the media is complicit in it. And that's what I think has been really compelling for uh people on the left is because these are like the New York Times was the one that published the hit piece. Like they're now being sued for $200 million. And what's they traditionally people on the left believe the New York Times is like you know the Bible of like this is they going to have fact checkers. It's institutional. They're not going to allow anything to go out. Even that I think for them is they're going what is this? Why would the New York Times partake in this? Why would Megan Tui partake in destroying? It's just like, well, maybe she's just friends with Dylan Pharaoh and Dylan Pharaoh's friends Taylor Swift. This could just just be powerful people calling each other and this is what they wanted to do. I honestly think you're right. Yeah. And so that has been what's really shocking for a lot of people is now who do we trust? Because it didn't just blow up. Like this is like it's bigger than just a celebrity you may have liked. It also is making them go, okay, well, if they could lie about this about Justin Baldon, were they maybe lying about Candace Owens? Like who I've had as a you know, there's so many elements psychologically. I don't want to go there. Um, I'm half Jew. Do you hate Jews? According to uh the New York Post, I I I haven't been told I hate black people yet, but I'm waiting for it. So, just, you know, when the time comes. It was the last Pokémon ball for me to catch, by the way. I've been called everything. So, now I just It's like a game. So, I was like, "Okay, which what have I not been called yet?" And like, this was the last one. I had I had to be called literally Hitler. And so, when that came last December, I was like, "This is crazy." Because this shows you again how they don't even do basic due diligence. Like if you knew anything about my life, you first off, born in New York, raised in Stanford, Connecticut. Like you just you just can't like I mean you I worked in private equity for Jews. It's just crazy. But it's obviously you get a sacred cow. Like George Floyd was kind of like the sacred cow of BLM. You say something against the sacred cow and then suddenly it's like you're a self-hating black person who wants black people back in in slave chains. I'm like, "Okay, I just don't agree with BLM." Right. And you've also experienced hideous racism. Yeah, of course. Of course. I didn't know that about you when you were in high school. You had to like sue the school. It was so awful. Yeah. We sued them for the money for me having to be out of school while this was going on. It was only $37,000. I know. People are like, "Oh, it's a huge lawsuit." It was like it was for like the home school. Yeah. Home school costs. But yeah, so I've lived through so many things and I think part of that has is why I've always known what the media was as an entity and it's just them trying to force their opinion and they will or they'll smear you. And so for me it's like what never has this been a rule growing up in a very Jewish town in Stamper, Connecticut and always having best friends that were Jewish who never complained. It's a very weird culture by the way for black people and Jewish people who like used to be the funny people who could take a joke like that like traditionally that's what always brought our cultures together suddenly become these like snowflakes. Like post BLM black people were just like everything was racism. Like Khloe Kardashian could put her hair in braids and we were like cultural appropriation. I'm like this is pathetic. because they held on to it for so long cuz it didn't feel safe to say so. No, really. No, it was just it was just I think there's something about victimhood that can be really compelling. And I also think it has to do with what you learn when you're young, right? So there's this as a black person, you are constantly being impressed upon in the public school system like slavery, slavery, slavery, slavery. And so maybe in the back of our mind, you're kind of like, well, we could just be thrown back into this if we don't say something. But similarly for Jewish people, Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust. So then when you have the news people that are telling you like do you must defend Israel or it's all coming down like people are going to be hunting you in New York. Your instinct is to go okay you your instinct is to get tribal. It is your instinct is to get tribal. All of all of my Judaism is a very bizarre story. I actually did not know I was a Jew. I grew up in the San Frernando Valley. All my friends were Jewish. My mom's mom ran from the Nazis and she married my mom's dad, an American soldier, comes over here as a world bride and tells my mom, "Don't tell anyone we're Jewish." So, I go and get a freaking 23 and me. I'm like, "What? What? Where's my party?" Like the 13-year-old bar mitzvah mitzvah. Like, I didn't get one. I was so pissed. Oh my god. How old were you when you found out? Oh my god. 20s. That's crazy. And then all of a sudden all the stories came out about how millenniums were like molten. I mean like Jewish Jewish Jewish full-blown Russian Jews. I thought she was a Brit. Like they ran to Austria. They ran over to freaking England. She got married. Some of them got pulled into the camp. No one told me. Told you anything because they just wanted a new life. Yes. And I think she was afraid. My grandfather was Sicilian Catholic. I think she was afraid. I you know she died when I was 10. So I I never got really a chance to ask and my mom to this day is like honey I just remember her telling me like don't tell anyone. So now it's like I have the blood. I was closest to my grandmother and my dad's actually an Arab. So it's the most bizarre. I'm not an Arab Jew either. I'm full-blown like Lebanese Syrian Russian Jew. And you should just be fighting yourself all day. I should be. I totally should be. But instead, I think it it it makes me so curious about different perspectives and trying to see both sides of every story. But all my friends who grew up Jewish couldn't see anything. No. Yeah. That was like BLM for me. Like I I was like I mean the way that I was caricatured because I just was like, "Hey guys, like what about our actual experience growing up?" Like you know, we didn't like this isn't the America that we know. This isn't how I felt growing up. I never felt that this was like, you know, I was going to be back in slave change tomorrow. though you did experience it. Yeah, but even the story even the story of that is not what is I wrote about that in my book. I wrote about that in my book. Even the way that was told by the media wasn't totally honest, right? It was my best friend at the time who left those messages, right? And looped in some other boys, right? And so he did that because he was hurt because I He's a kid, okay, at the time. Everyone's young. He was hurt because I stopped hanging out with him when I got my first boyfriend. It's actually so childish what happened. What do you do when you're hurt? The first thing you do, think about yourself. Everybody's got a little bit of racism in them. You get mad, somebody cuts you off and he's like Mexican at the red light. You're like, "Ah, stupid Mexican." You're like, "Why did I say that? Why did I say this? Is crazy. I don't have any bad feelings about Mexicans." It's like when you're upset with someone, you try, you can try to when you're young hurt them in a really petty way. You know what I mean? It's a super young perspective to have. And so he felt I mean I did. It was my first boyfriend. I mean, I just like ghosted all my friends. You know, first time you fall in love. Oh my god. It was so childish and adults could have had sorted that out in a totally different way and it blew up out of proportion and genuinely like he was my best friend. Oh, see I full-blown thought it was like the KKK at your door. No, I was kind of surprised cuz I'm like two and I watched the way the media loved that story so much because one of the kids that he had in the car, those kids were having their first beer. They were all 14, right? And so this was the first time they were drunk and he's like, "We're going to call this girl and she's black and we're going to like say mean things to her, right?" And so yeah, if you're trying I'm not going to lie to you. Someone hated my daughter. I feel like I would draw but this is but this is the reality asses. You think you think you think you would but you but you also have to have the perspective they're kids brains are not developed. Spring is here and who's got the itch to travel? I mean, summer is just around the corner. 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And we all got the ability and I think about this all the time because I've had to I had to think through that scenario and it impacted my life for a long time because I went from somebody who wasn't known who at least was known in my hometown um because the media loved it because one of them the governor of Connecticut's son was one of the kids, right? So it became this political story and they didn't care about the kids involved anymore. It didn't matter about people's lives. You know, those kids grew up and it it ruined their whole lives. Like one mistake, one night, one beer ruined their entire lives. I'm talking about in terms of like, you know, one of them changed their names when they grew up. Think about this. You have to think about that, right? We used to grow up and you used to be able to experiment with being mean, right? There was Grace. Yes, there was. I get it. I was total homophobe as a kid. Yeah. And there's this wonderful Louis CK skit. It's not a skit. He's actually sitting down. I think he's speaking to Conan O'Brien and everyone should watch it where he says like the phones have taken that away and we're all so judgmental. And the reason why you experiment with being mean is like you say something to someone and you watch the way it hurts them and you don't really like how it makes you feel when you're being mean to that person either. And this is what the phones take away. This is why it's like easy for like house in habit to write about things and not recognize like I'm a human being is it remove we are very removed from our humanity and we forget that being trying experimenting with being mean is a part of growing up right calling someone fat you you whatever you've done you've done something and you just forgot you forgot. I actually remember one day me and my girlfriend prank called someone and we were gosh we were in middle school so we had to have been 11 years old. Middle school sucks. We're all so mean. We're all so mean. And I remember we prank called this girl and she was fat. And I'm just confessing this right now, but I we didn't like I don't know why. I don't even know why we didn't like her. And we told her Halloween was coming up and we told her that we wanted her to be a pumpkin and she should wear orange. Okay. Mean. Really mean. no record of it except for right now on this podcast and it's going to be cut and I'm going to be taken down and cancelled. But like you know what I mean? But we did this thing. I was that fat kid. So you're good. Here's your right. And who know I don't remember why we did it. Maybe she liked whatever it was. But we were just mean. Everybody was like mean trying out being mean and then you get and you're like I don't really vulnerability. It it's not good for kids to be mean. But it is a normal part of growing up for kids to experiment with being mean. And now we are moment teachable moment, you know, and now we are so like, you know, you find a kid's tweet from 20 years ago and you're like, this is the I'm like, we didn't have Twitter, so there was no record of me doing that cuz I didn't tweet it. You know, I won't give the kids social, right? Because they'll ruin their lives. Their brain Exactly. Their brains will ruin their lives. And no matter how many times you tell them, don't do this or don't say that, they then get roped into these group chats and and there's a culture of me. So if one person's like, "Oh, it would be funny. We should do this. We should do this. Whether it's your egging houses, whether you're just forgot because you were allowed to. We got to forget our period of being mean is what I'm saying. We got to forget it. I for whatever reason I didn't forget that prank call though. Um because you know what? Because I think it's I have those moments where it's like why did I do that? What was going on for me? I can tell you that I was where that would have come out for me ironically was homophobia and I I didn't know that I was gay, right? So I was like, "This is disgusting." Yeah, you probably And then you probably said something disgust. I know I did. I remember the first all holier than thou because we got to just forget our phase of being mean and we're like, "How could any person?" I'm like, "What do you mean?" We all had it in us. Our brains weren't developed. We thought it was funny. We hated somebody. Maybe because of something that we saw in ourselves. Maybe like Exactly. Like maybe it's like you had samesex attraction, so you then see someone being themselves and being a lesbian and you're just like, "Oh my god, she's the most disgust." I actually knew a girl like that who bullied the crap out of this girl and it ended up being that that girl was a lesbian. There you go. And now she's a lesbian. And it's like crazy to think about how much he bullied this bullied this girl Daniela who was because she she was like she's a dyke. She like why would that girl Heather have to account for being a kid and not really knowing how to deal with her emotions? And that's how I view that situation. He didn't know how to deal with those emotions and so he just he picked mean because mean is easier than comprehending why we're being mean at that age. Totally different when you're an adult. Totally different when you're like Jessica Reed Krauss and you're like in your 50s and you're choosing to be mean, right? It's going then you go what's wrong with you? What have we not solved in you that you would act that way? And by the way, put it into the world like this behavior is something you process and yeah, you got to process that by then. What is going on inside of me that I have this hatred? you. It's just wild. But I I find that the way you tackle things or in my experience is that you're an open book. You're authentic. If you hated Jews, you'd be like, I hate Jews. I'm like known for saying what I think all the time. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Or do you find that also the way why did you go after BLM? I can tell you for me with all of the transgender stuff, listen, and whether you agree with me or not on this, and it's totally f I know you're religious and that's for me, we were fighting for gay marriage. We were fighting to be able to adopt kids. We got those rights. We should have shut the [ __ ] up. We got it. The the medicalization of a 12year-old is bananas. You are literally making irreversible changes to this child's fertility, ability to have an orgasm, brain development, bone development. And the best part is all of these liberal advocates know absolutely nothing. They never read the cast review, which is a four-year system. I'm sure you know this review for the audience of all the different studies on gender affirming care. revoked it that ability to do it in the UK across Europe because they realized they actually it's causing a lot more issues than it's solving and never looked at the WP path files cuz it's a virtue signal for them. It it is it's not about actually being knowledgeable and doing the right thing. It's about it's it's they don't want to do the research and they just want to go well I'm an accepting person so whatever it is you want I accept it. And it's like actually we shouldn't just accept everything. I don't know I don't know how we got to the place where we thought um acceptance was a good thing. We should not accept people like it's like, "Well, I'm going to let an 8-year-old do heroin. I'm an accepting person," you know? It's like, "Guys, no. Um, we need to not accept some things, right? We need to understand that socially some things are not acceptable. Morally some things are reprehensible and we have to have the courage to call those things out." And something happened in over time. How do you not even look at what it's doing to these kids medically? Protect them. If they are fully developed adults, I'm a libertarian. Like, live your life, man. I support you and I will fight for you to have all those rights that we all have. Transgender sports is a bit of a different issue because in my personal opinion, it's not fair. It's not safe. I owned a sports medicine facility. I mean, for God's sake, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence to show that there is a vast difference in the physiological abilities of a biological male versus a female. It's a ridiculous conversation where we could look at the evidence, but people don't want to. And then they pretend to be this great person. Well, it's like, well, by the way, who do you have your empathy for? What about all the biological girls that worked their entire life to get on the podium, right? They don't care. No, it's so crazy. It is bizarre. It was crazy when No, but it's crazy that even like feminists, cuz that used to be their thing. Like, I'm a feminist. I care so much about women. And then when it really came time to do the feminist thing, they couldn't do it. They were just like, "No." And I I now I guess the patriarchy's back. Like I I'm gonna support the man. Just put on a wig. Like that's all the patriarchy had to do to win was like just put on a wig and say, "I'm a woman, too." And then all of a sudden they could just like spike the ball on all of the all of the rights that have been established for women, all the pathways that have been established for women. Yeah, that's a bit strange. It's a bit hypocritical, dare I say. And but once again, this just shows you that we so much have gotten into this culture of acceptance. Going back to why what it is about me that I think bothers people like truly bothers people is I don't accept everything. So you don't accept person No. What an absurd thing. I from right out the get-go knew that BLM was going to be just like the civil rights protests. You know, I grew up in a household with my grandfather. My grandfather grew up with real racism. Kok's clan um by the way never had a victim mentality. Like it's it was stunning to me to hear him tell the stories about the clansmen coming around and like shooting bullets into his dad's house and he it was this tremendous sense of pride. He'd be like and my daddy would grab the gun and shoot back at them boys. Like so when I watch people who didn't live through that then adopt the victimhood of the things they didn't live through. I'm like this is all very pathetic. This is all very pathetic. Like your ancestors who lived through it were 10 times tougher than you are. And you just want something to like whine about really. Your life is great. Your life is phenomenal. Your life is fantastic. if they had had what you had, the things that they would have done. But with BLM, I knew that at its core, what it was going to result in, just like the the the civil rights riots of the '60s, was that black communities were going to be burned down to the ground and no one was going to be better for it, right? And that's exactly what happened. Go back go to Minnesota and go walk. It's desolate. The businesses are chased out. Then they call it the white flight. Why did all the white people live and we can't bring any businesses into this like broken downtown? Oh, I don't know. Maybe when you like allowed rioting and allowed people to break, you know, drive cars into Balenciaga and like and steal things, maybe the business owners went, you know what, I'm just going to go move my business somewhere else. And no one could think through that point. Also, I am so exhausted with the black community being the only community that for whatever reason, when we're ready to organize and gather and riot, it's for a drug addict. Like, is there nobody else? Like, can we let's like let's do that for Thomas Soul. You know what I mean? Let's do that for for Clarence Thomas. We are the only ethnic community that does that. If there was a Jewish like druggie who was high on fentinel and got into a a dust up with the police and died during a dust with with the police. Jewish people would be like, "Please don't even tell the press that he's Jewish." What? They be like, "Please please do not. This this is this one's not one of ours." Seriously, it's so true. Asians would be out there like whipping his his his ass. Like Asians are a whole different breed. Asians will be like I I love Asian culture. Like I'm like obsessed with like Asian moms because they're just like they're so they're so dead ass. I mean they are just like they will they will hit their sons in public. There's no there's no messing around, you know. And if that was an their Asian son, this is a tr this is a true story. I dated um I I was on a strong Asian kick first in my in my life and um I dated this guy who was Filipino. my Philippian mom. She's just insane. She was totally insane, but like in a very fun way. Very They're just so honest, you know? Like they'll tell you you're fat, you're stupid, you're dumb, you know? And she was she was amazing. She used to be like she used to always say this to me. She used to be like, "Canis, I like you, but you big bitch." You know, she be like, "Okay, I loved her." So, one night her son, I was not there, and all of this was in high school. They all decided to do shrooms, okay? And I I this is what scared me away from ever doing shrooms because he calls me and he's like asking me these questions that were super weird and he was having a good time and then he wasn't having a good time suddenly cuz he was by himself. Psychedelics are very serious. So he told me the Jesus statue was talking to him and I was like I don't know what's happening. I'm not having this experience. We're on the phone and then he was like staring at his computer for like an hour and then he was he was saying to me like have you ever wondered if this is reality or if this is not reality? I'm just like Blair what are you talking about? I don't know what's going on. So anyways, he then says like he thinks he's dying. Okay. And what he told me the next day was he went downstairs and he tried to throw up and he saw flies coming out of his mouth. You could just imagine this trip went so wrong. I'm glad it happened to him though cuz it scared me. It scared me against psychedelics. What I would tell you about and I just just a quick sidebar on that one is I think it's a very powerful medicine when used in the right hands for the right reasons. These were high school kids surrounded by a tree. I agree with you completely. was not in the right hand. There was nobody guiding. There was no shaman. This was like if you're if you're treating, you know, trauma from war or heroin addiction and you're at a medical facility doing eyeball gain with a professional, you these are different like I this is your these were high school kids just trying to like try something new and he was like a you know straight A student like you know. So this was like so then he woke his mom up and just told her she was a nurse at the hospital. Oh boy. And she told her, "He, I think I'm dying." And she yelled at him and said, "Then you're going to die." Okay, because I don't want to be embarrassed, okay? I don't want to be embarrassed. She said, "Are you are you in the background? I hear, "Are you [ __ ] me? You I don't care if you die. You will not embarrass me." Like literally, that's Asians, right? So, the culture that black people have established is the exact opposite of these cultures, which by the way, who's doing the best in this country? Handover handover fest? Asian people. their culture is just significantly better because they don't accept these sorts of things. And if we don't challenge black people to be like that, if we don't say this is unacceptable, like it is unfortunate. Um I believe that the George Floyd story should have brought actually people together because when I did documentary on it and went and met his roommates, they met him in addiction center. He struggled with addiction his entire life. And addiction is something that I think has touched every every family in America, mine included. Go. And they could have brought us together rather than trying to drive us apart according to race and been like listen like he had enough fentinel in him like fentinel literally makes you stop breathing like that's if when it's working it makes you stop breathing. Um and but they didn't go with that route because it wasn't what the media wanted at that time. And I I you know it is sad that this man it is sad that this man died but why are we why are we rioting why are we rioting that I agree with there was an absolute different way to handle it. However, and I'm I'm not saying that he wouldn't have died from the fentinel, but I listen and obviously I get it. He's a criminal, but I watched that video. It was like seven or nine minutes. 9 minutes. That's the problem. Freaking By the time he's Dude, he's crying for his mother. Get the I'm about to I'm about to I'm about to wake you up. Ready? I'm about to take you a red pill. Get off handcuff. I'm about to give you the red pill. He almost sprayed the people in the crowd. Red pill, blue pill. You can you only get one. Give me the Give me the hand. I'm going to hit you with the red pill. I want the red one. Have you ever seen the full arrest tape? No. You've only seen 9 minutes that were shot on the side of the sidewalk by Darnella Frasier because the the Minnesota prosecution locked down the full arrest tape from the officers. Do you have you watch it, your whole mind is going to explode. Okay. First and foremost, they tried to peaceibly arrest this man. He clear very It's very clear he ingested more whatever was in his car, you know, trying to get away with it, whatever. They peaceibly put him in the back of a a cruiser. Okay. And he says, "I don't want to be in the car because I can't breathe. I have claustrophobia." The guys say, "We just took you out of this car. What do you mean you have claustrophobia? Why are you acting funny?" He asks the guy in the car who was with him, "Did he disingest something? Did he do something?" George Floyd asks the police officer to put him on the ground himself. Mama, which the media didn't tell you, they made you think that he was calling for his mom. It's not true. And there's there's a there's a previous arrest of where he also calls for his mom where he survived which was like from a month earlier because he was a repeat offender mom thing. I I will never get that out of my head. They never showed you the the in the court case who testified and said I'm mama. His white girlfriend was mama. Okay. He was calling he was calling for his white girlfriend. I did a whole documentary on it. I could show you the footage and they're like when he said mama they showed the multiple times that he has said that in previous arrests where he didn't die. You know I want mama. He was talking about his girlfriend who is white by the way which I think is also kind of significant and her he calls her mama. Okay. It wasn't his mother he was calling out for because he was dying and it was something that he had done multiple times and he had he specifically asked to put on the ground. Now regarding what you think you saw from the front you thought that you saw that Derek Schovin was on his neck. I just was like in police. Wait until you see the footage from behind. Wait until you see the footage from behind, which you were not allowed to see, which cuz the meet the Minnesota locked this down. They would did not want public to ever see the full arrest tape because it just blows your mind that you could be this manipulated by one image of Darnella from the front. In the police academy, they are trained when you put someone on the ground and this guy requested to be put on the ground. Okay, like I said, re they knew, everybody knew Derek, everybody knew this guy, not the police officer. Everybody knew George Floyd because he is a repeat fentinel offender. Um, they are trained that you the correct hold is to put the right knee not on the neck right here. Right. If I if I had you get in that position right now and we recorded this from the front, it it would look like you were on my neck because your knee is supposed to hold them down like just your right knee is supposed to hold they learned this in the police academy. Okay? So, he was doing what he was taught to do and he was only doing it because George Floyd said he wanted to be put on the ground. Okay? And so at that point, he's been saying, "Uh, I don't want to do this. I don't do this. I can't brea blah blah blah." This very long arrest tape, and that goes on and on. They're asking if he's injusted something as a police officer. Yeah, okay. Sure. We can debate until the until the cows come home about whether or not he could have really believed him and said maybe he really can't breathe or maybe he could have thought and had that moment. Derek Schovin could have had that moment and gone like maybe he did ingest something and he's having like, you know, something's going on. But they asked him like they, you know, they gassed him and they were all being funny, didn't want to answer. And so there's so much more to that story that the media irresponsibly didn't report on and they only showed the public that 9minute video. And that is a crime. Like what they did to the public by not showing them the full arrest tape to me registers as a crime. What they did to the public by not just inserting the fact that Mama was his girlfriend, his white girlfriend. You didn't even you didn't even know. You never even heard of this ever, but it was during the trial she she testified that she was mama. Okay. So there's there's this is what I mean when I say that the media has been so irresponsible in and and like I said at least it would have made the conversations even if you knew all of that and said but I still think he would have been alive today if the police officer he should have been trained to register that like he was having a drug overdose. Whatever you we can have that debate but we cannot have an honest debate when you have people who still believe just like you're still the person who's double masking on the George Floyd. Think about that. Oh jeez. You're the double masker on the George Floyd because you don't know any of these facts. And why don't you know them? Because of whatever you were watching at that time, the media just said, "This is the narrative and we will not allow any sunlight to come in. We are just going with Darnella Frasier's cell phone video." Think about that. Why did you never see the police footage? Police have they have to have a camera. They all had cameras on them. You've never seen it. Think about how weird that is. You saw a bystander's photo. Isn't that Does that now strike you as odd that you never saw that? My god, it's nuts. It's nuts. This is what the media does. They will just pick an enemy and pick a cause and they will just pollute your mind and you will believe it. And I and I count myself among this because I was a big believer that Harvey Weinstein was guilty. I was like a big believer because I was like, there's no way he's not. There's way too many people speaking out. And then I finally got into the case and I was like, this is insane. Harvey Weinstein was just hung on the Me Too movement. Like, wait, are you serious? Yeah. I've been speaking to Harvey Weinstein for 2 years. Come on. I know. It's crazy. It's crazy. It is like you want to go down a freaking rabbit hole. But this is what they do. Movements get really big and then they find someone to hang. And I think Derek Schovin, the BLM thing got big. They hung Derek Schovin. And I think on the Me Too movement, they hung Harvey Weinstein. And Harvey Weinstein was an easy person to hang because he's he was immoral. He was like running the peninsula. Like it was a brothel. Like you know the women who were sleeping with him. There's no question that like he was right. I see what you're saying. Scumbag. You need some nuance here. He got it. He didn't a girl. But you know, he's a scumbag. Oh, there's no He's a legendary scumbag. I mean, like, he was sleeping with everyone. Everyone who wanted to have a part was throwing themselves at him. But that's the point. He had the power and they wanted roles and they slept with him. But the media not telling us cuz nobody even knows cuz there were so many women who spoke out like who actually put him in prison. What was the case? What was the story? And I went back um after I spoke to him and I was like, he's got to be guilty of something. And it blew my mind like how much the media can make you think you're getting information when actually you're getting nothing. You're getting nothing. They just like inundate you. This woman spoke out and she hates Harvey and he said he grabbed her butt and she said blah blah blah. None of these people brought this into the courtroom. They were just saying this at the same time. And the ones that brought it into the courtroom, they were getting their cases dismissed for very valid reasons because they couldn't describe his penis, which is unique and one of a kind because he had gang green and he had his balls removed. So they were all saying he made me fond of his balls. But Harvey Wines, he doesn't have balls. So one by one, these women just got plucked out of the courtroom because they couldn't discover, they couldn't describe the fact they were describing him didn't exist. He got gang green in the '90s, which ended up being a lifesaver for him in the courtroom when all these women just wanted money. What? It's a The story is nuts or no nuts. I'm sorry. Oh my god. No, it's insane. It's insane. You have to watch my Harvey series that we just that we just started. And then you have the the only three girls wound up putting him away, right, for 26 years. You look at the cases. It's no nuts. It's no nuts. Literally, you're telling me he you and then you had a 5-year consensual affair with him and you took your mom to meet him. I'm reading these emails and I'm going, "What is this? What is the court?" Like, do we is just everything a banana or court? Is this all about social justice and not real justice? And I say this as someone who has said to Harvey multiple times, listen, I'll tell you, I think you're a bad person. Wouldn't want you to be my I told him, I wouldn't want you to be my husband. I think you're immoral. I think you put yourself in the circumstance to even let this happen because you were cheating on your wife, right? A and you definitely abused your power. There's no question. Like if you have me on the jury and you're like, "Did this man abuse his power?" I'd be like, "Absolutely." We stop at rapist. We stop. For me, we stop at rapist. And and that is crazy that his children have to grow up thinking that their father was a rapist as opposed to being like, "My father was immoral and cheated on my mom non-stop." Okay. I want to address one theme that I'm seeing here. you because and I it so people are like, "Oh, you're gonna go after this George Floyd situation. You're not sympathetic to black people. You're going to go after you're gonna, you know, just or champion Harvey Weinstein not being a racist. You're not a true feminist." My interpretation of this is that you want women to do better and be stronger and be honest and fight in a very straightforward and fair way. And you want black people to elevate the best of the best and live to that standard. And that is your way of fighting for black excellence and women to rise and be powerful. Um, am I projecting into this cuz I feel the same way about gays. I'm like, guys, let's I just want everyone to achieve excellence. And you can't do it with identity politics. I hate identity politics, right? It shouldn't be because you're a woman or because you're black. We should all be aspiring to tell the truth, right? because I think it fortifies us. Being honest fortifies us. Uh being forthright fortifies us. And it feels better. Actually, it feels better when for me if you're talking about a case and there actually is a true victim and it makes us look stupid when we then see Blake Lively's harassment and we're able to watch the video because Brian Freeman savagely just drops it online. He's he's a savage. Thank God I've hired him. Thank God. So now he's conflicted out at this. He is a savage. He's like, "Just read it all. Here's the website." And then we we get to actually watch the thing that she first we got to read her description of it and then we got to watch it and you just go, "Women are pathetic." That's that's the first thing I thought when you know why. We don't need that. We don't need this. Blake Lively, please. There are real women, by the way, who are being I want you to understand this. There are real survivors of like women who did nothing were walking to their car and a stranger. And that's what makes me angry when everybody is achieving this fake victimhood is that it makes nobody believe the real victims and there are tons of them. There are tons of women who have survived. There are people who have been by their fathers who who survived things in their homes and come out of it and and you diminish their stories when you're just like a flippant arrogant sealist actress who married another person who's arrogant and flippant and you're both narcissists and you just want to take a movie like shame on you. We're seeing this through the end. And so I believe in real justice and I think again because it elevates everyone when we when you seek true justice and not a justice that's based on identity politics. I want to have a little fun with one topic because this one just seems so freaking bananas to me, but you do your homework with so much you you're meticulous. So I I I dare to question you at this point. But I I have to admit the Mcronone's wife thing is just too Candace. It's too creepy and crazy. Did you watch it? And no, gotta watch it. That's why that's why Joe Rogan got he was like I he was like I'm two episodes in and I got fully convinced and I was like I would never stake a claim on something. There's no like it's so when it when I got into this story and I read it I was like this is ins if there's any truth to this. This is in this is the most insane thing. What attracted you to the story to begin with? Just cuz the wife looks a little bit No, she look it is that like on its face is weird, right? Like typically typically you don't find like 14-year-old boys who are like Yeah. like a 45-year-old woman like that. That that already is kind of weird, right? Like off the bat, the French. Yeah, exactly. The French are a little strange. Yes. With their sexual, you know, the French Revolution was like a sexual revolution. Um and they definitely brought a lot of that and I was like, that's kind of a strange type, whatever. But nothing that would like I didn't like fall for conspiracies that Michelle Obama was a man. Nothing, you know, nothing like that. And so I'm not like prone to that sort of a thing. When I I don't even remember how Oh, I know what it was. It was a Daily Mail article and I'm headed to a UFC fight and I am sitting in my hotel room and it was such a strange article. It says, "Emmanuel Mcronone vehemently denies that his wife's a man." And there was like a video of him being like, "The rumors are not true." And I just thought to myself, what's going on in France? Like what a strange thing for a president to be denying. Like just just like basic interest. And then when I kept reading the piece, the Daily Mail was like, this has been fully debunked by this like childhood photo. And I'm like, wait, this is all we got? What do you mean fully debunked by a childhood photo? This should be debunked because she's got like 20,000, you know, she's got three kids. She's got video like one childhood photo. I'm like, that's a little weird. Let me just like see how we've gotten to the point that the that their White House, the Elise Palace, has to even respond to this cuz that means it's it's big. It's not small when the president's responding. Like Barack Obama never dignified any of the you know what I mean? He was never like it's not fair. So I was he he looked a little undone, a little undone, unnerved. Then I looked into it and I went, "Oh my gosh, this is true." It was that simple. Like oh my gosh, this is true. because you're telling me you've got this person who's this old and you have no photos of this person from the time that they're like four or or seven until they magically turn like um like I want to say 40 like 40 years old or 30 something. That's just not normal. You allegedly have three kids. You can't just like show me a photo of you. Forget pregnant. Everybody holds their kid in the hospital. You got nothing. You got So this is like this is crazy. And then I started debunking what the media was saying because they kept calling this a far-right conspiracy theory. It's not true. Actually, people on the left, a Vanity Fair reporter was trying to do a puff piece on Mrs. Mcronone and fell on a hole. She was just like, I can't find anything about this person. This is crazy. This why can't I? And then when she was then another woman who was a Holocaust um documentarian like she this is basically like the BBC of France, right? It's like it's like channel one or channel 7. And this woman is fully on the left again doing this piece cuz she's like this is a historic election. Breijit Mcronone has got so much power and she gets called into the Elise palace. Okay. And and she she came out and was like and they wanted to know who she was speaking to trying to find anything about her. They told her exactly who she could speak to and she was like I felt like I was under interrogation for like so these were people who are like celebrated in the like mainstream journalists who were trying to honor Breijit who suddenly were like something is not right. Like I I've never seen anything like this. You you feel like you're going to get arrested for asking any questions. And that's where the story begins. Okay, that's crazy. It's crazy. It is crazy. And then when the the more you find out and you start going down and you're going, "Okay, this journalist, they started locking up journalists, threatening journalists." You don't have send the Secret Service to preemptively lock up a journalist that's working on a piece to detain a journalist that's working on a piece. Emanuel Mcronone did this. Okay. That's your next clue. If I said, "I'm working on a story. Jillian Michael was born a man." You would laugh. Exactly. You see what I mean? Oh, she's a man. She's actually into Julia Michael is born a man. You You want them to publish it because it's so ridiculous that you're like this is crazy. Like the same thing I said to that girl Emily Hagen. She was like, "Yeah, I was working on this piece that like your husband I think she was saying like my husband was involved with Andrew Tape." I mean, this is zero not a shred of proof. And I was like, "Publish it." Like it's it's nuts. And then it got stopped because someone said this is literally liable. Like we would not have this reaction of of like send the Secret Service in because it's ridiculous. There's thousands of photos of me as a kid. Here's this yearbook, this yearbook, this yearbook. Not only that, they went back. You're not allowed to get a yearbook photo. They locked everything down. You're not allowed to get military records, nothing. Because she's a man. She's just a dude. She transitioned um when she was in her early 30s, became a teacher, got the Adams Apple surgery, met Mcronone. I mean, everything they told you about this this woman was just fictitious and it was made up because she's connected to a tremendous amount of power in France. And I'm talking the Bernard Arno family, the Louis Vuitton family. Even her stylist styles transgendered people. It's like the whole thing is so in your face that it's it's insane that this secret has gone on for so long. Okay, so um Mbappe uh the soccer player was very open about having a transgender girlfriend. No one cared, right? That's the point. So then that gets into the next layer where we have to like because I only suck to the facts because if I I mean think about this. Emanuel sent me sent me a threat before I published the series. That's why you should know it's real. Have you ever heard of this in your entire life? The president of France sent me a 100page letter threat before we published our series. Okay. You're an American. Exactly. That that tells you how insane they've gone. Could you imagine this? First off, it's you're a G7 leader. I'm a pregnant mom in Tennessee. What? Okay. What are you thinking? Okay. Sending a threat. And I think he thought, well, I'm the president. Breie and Emanuel sent it to me and if she sees it, she's just not going to do this. So, he played the like f around and then he found out because I was only going to do one episode. And I said, now we're doing a whole series because how dare you? Who are you? What do you you don't come to an American on speech and tell them that they can't talk about this topic. And so, they sent us a 100page letter and we said, "Oh, great. Perfect. Here's here's how defamation works in America. You have to prove actual malice. And we're not actually trying to be malicious here. So here are some questions we'd like you to answer. Was Breijit Mcronone born a biological male? Yes or no? We sent yes or no questions and said we will not run this piece if you just answer these questions. They didn't answer the questions. They were declined. After sending the best law firm in DC to send a server processor to my house, they did not answer the questions. They declined to answer the questions because they can't because the truth is that she was born a man, right? And I said, "Okay, so let me here's think about how crazy that is." So let's say you it really is just causing you stress that I'm saying Jillian. Michael was born a man. She was actually Michael Jillian, right? She was [ __ ] And then you're like, "Here's crazy. I'm don't even publish this piece. I'm going to send you a threat." And I then I say, "Okay, fine. Just answer this question. Were you born a biological female?" You go, "Yes, you psycho." Yes. Wouldn't do it. Wouldn't do it. Wouldn't do it. We've been in communication with them. They will not answer the questions. And then we said, "Okay, well now you can't sue because you can't prove actual malice because we literally have told you that we will not publish this piece if you simply answer these yes or no questions." They had even a woman who was like a fraudulent literally like in prison arrested for fraudulently editing pictures. She's in their PR web. She's now been forced out because she was like a gangster and like involved in drugs. The amount of people in their orbit that were arrested for pedophilia, it's insane. It's insane. What? Yeah. And so what's the reason why they're lying? We've crossed over from like you know him having a transgender. But that's the problem. Emanuel McRone is only like whatever. I I'm the person that's like do you like I don't even know why you'd hide it. You're French. No one cares. That's what the problem is. B is not embarrassed. Do do with the where's the the ped what's the statuto? That's this is the other problem, right? So if you did take on somebody else's identity, you fell in love with their love story is already weird. You fell in love with a 14-year-old boy. He was 14. He was 14. Okay. Go. So, the press lied about that. They tried. They first when they came out with the story said he was 17. But you can't lie because we know how old Emanuel Mcronone was when he was in the play that you said he fell in love with him on. It was this play you saw him perform. Oh, yeah. So, this the journalist were able to debunk everything that the press was this individual, man or woman irregardless. In love with the 14-year-old boy and got away with it. Got away with it. That's the part that I find absolutely disgusting. And it's statuto. Okay. And it still holds, by the way, right? It still holds until the end of this year. Breit Mcronone could be tried for this. And this is why they're they're freaking out. They're arresting journalists. They're doing all this stuff because it's true. None of this would be a big deal if it was false. I mean, when you get into this, this is why people are just hooked on it because it's like all you have to do is I'm like, you probably have heard this is a crazy far right conspiracy. No, this is like well-meaning journalists who are like, "Oh, it's Michelle Obama. I want to cover Michelle Obama because she's amazing." about and then they're like suddenly getting called in by the Secret Service and they're in trouble and everyone was going something's not right here and then there were just these incredible French journalists who lived through literal hell to get this story out and one who had to move his family to Milan. He's done the most incredible work. He's never been sued by them. He has an entire book called Becoming Breit. And I was honored that he allowed me to present this story because it is one of the most sinister stories and and the implications are are are scary. Like there is like I said the pedto nebula as he describes it of the people just around them who were working on their administration with their administration who then subsequently got arrested for uming their kids or this or that. Yeah. And I show people the facts like I'm like these are not these this is not disputed. This is like here's the guy he's been arrested. One guy admitted it. He he had he had reached a statute of limitations but his daughter wrote an entire book about how her brother was by him at these weird French political parties. Um, and so it's it's much deeper. It's not it's it's that is the reason why it it speaks to something that's so much darker. To think that this could be going on at the top at the at the tippity top is very scary. And um so the series you should I mean it's amazing. It's the most viral thing we've ever done. And the reason why it's vira
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