[00:00] So realistically, it's not a huge fall
[00:02] on the security footage. It does make it
[00:03] seem a lot larger than it is. And for
[00:05] perspective, that security camera right
[00:07] there is where he was captured. So you
[00:08] guys will recognize this. This is where
[00:10] he was captured on camera. That's where
[00:11] he jumped off the roof. From multiple
[00:13] officers that we spoke to that actually
[00:15] worked the scene is the wooded area that
[00:17] the gun was supposedly stashed in.
[00:20] >> In this episode, we'll look at the
[00:22] number five clue everyone missed.
[00:25] >> I got nightmares in my head. I feel
[00:32] my mind feels like a creature
[00:36] me.
[00:39] I got nightmares in my head.
[00:44] Hello and welcome to True Crime Rocket
[00:46] Science. So that was footage from Taylor
[00:48] Hensen reenacting and recording the root
[00:51] of the suspected shooter. I'll be
[00:53] putting a link to that short video clip
[00:56] in the description. So, let's review
[00:58] what we know. The shot rings out at 1 2
[01:01] 2 3 30 seconds. Let's put those numbers
[01:03] on screen. Now, you can see from this
[01:05] screen grab that the CCTV provided by
[01:08] the FBI only starts 7 seconds after
[01:10] that. Many of you guys have gotten stuck
[01:13] on those missing 7 seconds, but that's
[01:16] just the starting line. After the
[01:18] shooter jumps off the side of the
[01:19] building, walks along the grass. By the
[01:22] way, do you notice he holds the towel
[01:24] concealing the rifle away from the white
[01:26] vehicle approaching the parking lot?
[01:28] Then after the vehicle passes, he
[01:31] switches it around so that it faces away
[01:33] from the traffic passing him on the
[01:35] left. Well, isn't that suspicious? Isn't
[01:38] he trying to hide something? And then
[01:40] the footage cuts off. What happens next?
[01:42] And where exactly was the rifle found?
[01:46] Before we get to that, if you haven't
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[01:49] Welcome to the thousands of you who have
[01:51] subscribed. Again, kudos to Taylor
[01:54] Hansen who went boots on the ground and
[01:56] verified this information himself. As I
[01:58] said, I'll put a link to his little
[02:00] video clip in the description. You can
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[02:09] let's get started.
[02:11] >> She spoke about the heartbreaking
[02:12] moments she had to tell their
[02:14] three-year-old daughter, Gigi, that her
[02:16] father was never coming back.
[02:32] [Music]
[02:35] Let's remember that this isn't just a
[02:37] game. We are talking about someone who
[02:38] lost their life and the investigation
[02:41] and the trial to bring his murderer,
[02:44] Charlie Kirk's murderer, to justice. If
[02:47] you've been complaining that we don't
[02:48] see the starting line in terms of the
[02:50] footage, an equal issue can be made
[02:52] about the finishing line. After the
[02:54] suspect is seen walking along the road,
[02:56] what happens next? It's one of the most
[03:00] unexplored areas of true crime,
[03:02] post-meditation.
[03:04] If you're hearing that term for the
[03:05] first time, well, it's because I coined
[03:07] it. Premeditation and postmeditation
[03:09] hold hands. They are mirror images of
[03:12] each other. After the suspect is seen
[03:14] walking along the road, what happens
[03:16] next? The answer is that he immediately
[03:19] crosses the highway College Drive and he
[03:22] enters a small nondescript wooded area
[03:24] and this is where he abandoned his
[03:26] weapon, the towel and some of his
[03:28] clothing. Here's the view towards UVU
[03:31] where he crosses the road. Here he has
[03:33] his back towards the woods. And here's
[03:36] the opposite view from campus drive of
[03:39] the woods with his back to UVU.
[03:42] Note the red line on the sidewalk and
[03:44] the white line running in the road
[03:45] designating a cycling lane running
[03:47] parallel to it. Well, here is that exact
[03:50] spot being cordoned off. You'll notice
[03:53] the embankment slopes steeply downward,
[03:55] creating a dark forest canopy and
[03:58] blocking off line of sight, which
[03:59] provides additional cover. Taylor Hansen
[04:02] also goes down into this area and
[04:05] describes it as quite a good area if
[04:07] that is what you wanted to do, hide
[04:09] something away. This is the same area
[04:12] from a different angle. And here's an
[04:14] officer collecting evidence in that
[04:16] embankment.
[04:18] You'll also notice the area underfoot is
[04:20] longish green grass, longer than the
[04:22] lawn he ran across, and also sunless.
[04:25] Well, that's a match for the background
[04:27] of this image. Also, the dark shoe
[04:30] sticking out of the top corner of the
[04:32] image looks like it might belong to the
[04:34] FBI officer pictured above crouched down
[04:36] on one knee.
[04:39] This is that same area taken from
[04:41] another angle. Note the red line running
[04:44] along the sidewalk and the white line in
[04:46] this image as well. Here it's possible
[04:48] the engraved casings are being placed
[04:51] inside an evidence envelope.
[04:54] Can you make out what the officer is
[04:55] holding in his gloved hand? Could it be
[04:58] a dark towel? Now, when I did lighten
[05:00] the image, it didn't look like he was
[05:03] carrying anything. So, we must be
[05:05] careful to draw inferences just because
[05:07] we want to. In this image, the officer
[05:09] appears to be placing something metallic
[05:12] into the envelope. It looks to me like,
[05:15] what is that thing? It looks to me like
[05:17] it could be a buckle or a watch more
[05:19] than more than a bullet. The officer
[05:22] crouching over, holding the envelope
[05:24] open, is not wearing a glove and could
[05:26] be in trouble if there is some DNA
[05:29] contamination. Once again, you can see
[05:31] in this image the grass is thinner and
[05:33] longer on this side of the road. Another
[05:36] interesting question to ask is where the
[05:38] shooter scoped out the cops in the
[05:40] woods. I don't think he would have
[05:42] parked right across the road. Probably
[05:44] he would have had an aerial view from
[05:46] the parking garage. So if you take the
[05:50] text messages as being authentic
[05:54] and you want to test whether it's
[05:56] possible to see what he was seeing, what
[05:58] he said he was seeing, remember he said,
[06:01] "I had planned to grab my rifle from my
[06:03] drop point shortly after, but most of
[06:06] that side of town got locked down. It's
[06:08] quiet, almost enough to get out, but
[06:10] there's one vehicle lingering." Then he
[06:12] said, "Going to attempt to retrieve it
[06:14] again. Hopefully hopefully they've moved
[06:16] on. I haven't seen anything about them
[06:19] finding it. So, he's probably looking at
[06:21] the news as he's waiting or while he's
[06:24] waiting. He also says, "I can get close
[06:26] to it, but there's a squad car parked
[06:28] right by it. I think they already swept
[06:30] that spot, but I don't want to chance
[06:32] it. I'm wishing I'd circled back and
[06:35] grabbed it as soon as I got to my
[06:36] vehicle."
[06:38] Also, I worry about Prince. I had to
[06:40] leave it in a bush where I changed
[06:42] outfits. So, that's where he says he
[06:45] changed. He says, "The only thing I left
[06:47] was the rifle wrapped in a towel and I
[06:50] think the bullets that he engraved as
[06:52] well." Later on, he says, "All right,
[06:54] I'm going to have to leave it. This
[06:56] really [ __ ] sucks." So, we get the
[06:58] idea that he was he was surveilling them
[07:01] while they were investigating that
[07:02] scene. The question again is from where?
[07:05] The other part many miss is that the
[07:07] starting line isn't actually when he
[07:09] fires the shot. That's the halfway mark.
[07:11] The starting line is wherever he parks
[07:13] his car. Once he makes it back to his
[07:16] car, he's basically home free. So, it
[07:19] also makes sense that the direction he
[07:21] heads in after firing the shot is
[07:23] straight towards his vehicle. But for
[07:25] some reason, he doesn't feel it safe
[07:26] walking all the way to his vehicle with
[07:29] a rifle in his hand. And this is the
[07:31] riskiest part of the whole plan. If
[07:33] someone sees the rifle and sees his
[07:35] vehicle, you know, he reckons he's
[07:37] toast. So he wants to break up that
[07:40] ability to join the dots just as he
[07:42] dressed in different clothing to try to
[07:44] avoid detection. Do you see if we are
[07:47] going to join the dots, it's not only
[07:49] joining ABC and XY Z, we also have to
[07:52] join Z to A. And we can see that's
[07:56] exactly where he's headed. In this case,
[07:58] we can see he's heading from point
[08:00] number nine towards point number one,
[08:04] which is where his car is parked. He can
[08:06] get back to his car by changing shirts
[08:09] and then threading his way through the
[08:11] relatively quiet neighborhood to
[08:13] retrieve the firearm. Except then things
[08:16] go ary. Does that make sense? I can't
[08:19] really say why the FBI haven't provided
[08:21] the first 7 seconds or the last 7
[08:23] seconds. It could be that they want to
[08:25] preserve those scenes and don't want
[08:27] look trespassing or contaminating the
[08:30] scene. Right now, the area of the
[08:32] shooting is cordoned off and is under
[08:34] 24/7 surveillance. By the way, this
[08:37] perspective also confirms what law
[08:39] enforcement said when they spoke about
[08:41] the shooter's approach, which would have
[08:43] been from this side and would have
[08:44] involved stepping over the fence-like
[08:46] barrier and onto the gravel surface of
[08:48] the roof. Let's go back to the
[08:50] affidavit. The suspected shooting
[08:52] position is adjacent to an open publicly
[08:55] accessible walkway. To access the
[08:58] suspected location, a person must climb
[09:00] over a railing. Well, is there railing?
[09:03] Check. And then drop to the roof only
[09:05] slightly below. Is the roof only
[09:07] slightly below? Check. The UVU officer
[09:10] climbed over the railing and down onto
[09:11] the roof. He then walked to the
[09:13] suspected shooting position and
[09:16] confirmed a clear shooting corridor
[09:18] between the position and Mr. Kirk's
[09:20] seat. He also noticed markings in the
[09:22] gravel rooftop consistent with the
[09:24] sniper having lane on the roof.
[09:26] impressions in the gravel potentially
[09:28] left by the elbows, knees, and feet of a
[09:30] person in a prone shooting position.
[09:32] Prone meaning lying on the ground.
[09:35] Police reviewed surveillance from the
[09:36] camera covering the roof and discovered
[09:38] that it recorded an individual dressed
[09:40] in dark clothing cross the railing from
[09:43] the public walkway and drop onto the
[09:45] roof at at about 12:15 p.m. That's about
[09:50] 7 or 8 minutes prior to the shooting.
[09:52] This is important. Although the
[09:54] individual moved out of the camera's
[09:56] view for a short time, the camera again
[09:59] captured the individual running across
[10:01] the roof and then low crawling to the
[10:04] area the UVU officer recognized as where
[10:07] the suspected snipe had dropped down
[10:09] into a prone shooting position. So this
[10:13] low crawling area, this was actually
[10:15] recorded prior to the shot after a short
[10:18] time which matches the known time of the
[10:21] shot. 1 2 2 3 30 seconds. The individual
[10:25] arose and ran across the roof to the
[10:28] northeast and back into the view of the
[10:30] camera. So, we have confirmation here
[10:32] that the crucial area where the sniper
[10:35] lay was an area where the CCTV wasn't
[10:38] able to pick up the shooter, certainly
[10:40] not the continuous movements. You can
[10:43] also see that although there are several
[10:44] ladders providing access to the roof,
[10:46] these would be risky to climb given the
[10:49] huge crowd milling around. This is why
[10:51] the stairwell was chosen for more
[10:54] discrete access to the roof. In point of
[10:56] fact, this stairwell was a critical
[10:58] vulnerability, a crucial security flaw
[11:01] that the shooter took advantage of.
[11:03] Going forward, this security hole will
[11:05] need to be addressed by UVU staff. Fox
[11:08] News recently published an article
[11:10] stating, "A security expert says Tyler
[11:12] Robinson got extremely lucky finding
[11:15] access to the Utah roof to allegedly
[11:18] carry out the attack." Well, I'm not
[11:20] going to take it further than that. Are
[11:21] there any questions? Well, let me know
[11:23] in the comments. Thank you for listening
[11:26] and I'll see you guys next time.
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[11:44] Heat. Heat.
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