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Charlie Kirk and Senator Mike Lee Discuss Left-Wing Terrorism Targeting Elon Musk and Tesla

March 22, 2025

Charlie Kirk sits down with Senator Mike Lee to address the alarming rise of threats and violence targeting Elon Musk and Tesla. As vandalism, arson, and death threats become disturbingly common, Senator Lee explains why Democratic politicians remain largely silent on domestic terrorism tactics. The conversation turns to the crisis of activist judges issuing nationwide injunctions to obstruct the administration, with Lee revealing his upcoming legislation to combat judicial overreach and forum shopping.

The Rise of Left-Wing Terrorism Against Tesla

Charlie Kirk opens the conversation with Senator Mike Lee from Utah by addressing a disturbing trend: the escalating violence and threats targeting Tesla and Elon Musk. Kirk expresses his fear that this pattern of intimidation could escalate to tragic violence, referencing the shooting of Steve Scalise and the constant death threats he and others receive daily.

Senator Lee identifies these actions as textbook domestic terrorism. "This is what domestic terrorism does, this is what domestic terrorism looks like," Lee explains. "They very much want people to be in fear. That's why they do it. They understand that people understand that there's a risk of bodily harm or even death in these kinds of circumstances, and that's designed to induce fear."

The Senator points to a deeper problem: those engaging in these acts apparently feel empowered to do so without consequence. "These folks apparently feel at liberty to do this. They've been trained by the radical left to think that there will be no consequence to them for doing this, that they'll be applauded, that they'll be rewarded," Lee states.

The Silence of Democratic Leadership

One of Senator Lee's primary concerns is the absence of condemnation from Democratic elected officials. "One of the things that is missing in all of this: we haven't seen politicians on the left, elected office holders in the Democratic party in any significant numbers coming out and saying stop this madness, end this, stop the death threats, stop the painting of the swastikas, the vandalism, all forms of violence. Knock it off," Lee observes.

He singles out Representative Ritchie Torres as one of the few Democrats who has spoken out against the violence, inviting all other Democrats to join him in condemning these actions.

Media Personalities Encouraging Violence

The discussion turns to a clip of Jimmy Kimmel, who addresses Tesla vandalism on his show with what appears to be a mocking tone. Kimmel says, "People have been vandalizing Tesla vehicles, new Tesla vehicles. Please don't vandalize, don't ever vandalize Tesla vehicles," before making additional comments about Elon Musk.

Senator Lee responds strongly: "This isn't funny. It's not cute. It shouldn't be allowed on public airwaves, and I'm frankly stunned that his network hasn't called him out on it, hasn't apologized, hasn't taken some action against them for doing this. This is disgraceful."

Lee emphasizes that regardless of political views, Americans should be able to objectively recognize that "violence and acts of vandalism aren't a good thing." He criticizes Kimmel for doing the opposite of discouraging such behavior, calling it shameful, while noting that Disney will likely face no advertiser backlash.

Tim Walz Celebrates Economic Harm

Charlie Kirk introduces a clip of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz celebrating the decline in Tesla's stock price. Walz describes adding Tesla to his phone's stock app "to give me a little boost during the day" before noting the stock price is "dropping."

Kirk characterizes this as a sitting governor cheering for people to lose their jobs and refers to Walz as an arsonist, referencing comments his wife made during the Floyd protests about enjoying the smell of burning buildings.

Senator Lee finds the governor's comments particularly troubling: "There's nothing wrong if that's his thing to monitor the stocks of a company and figure out what kind of stock prices make him happy and make him sad. It's weird, here, even that his own state retirement fund is pretty heavily invested in Tesla as I understand it, so he's celebrating the diminution in value of his own state workers, his own state retirees' retirement benefits. That's weird."

More concerning to Lee is what Walz didn't say: "If he's going to bring up Tesla at all, why wouldn't he take that opportunity to say, by the way, regardless of whether you want to celebrate when Tesla's stock price goes down, knock it off with the violence? He didn't do that. There's a reason he didn't do that, and I fear what it means for the future of our country."

Nationwide Injunction Crisis and Legislative Response

Kirk shifts the conversation to what he calls the "nationwide injunction crisis," asking if Congress will take action to address the pattern of activist judges issuing sweeping orders against presidential policies.

Senator Lee announces he will be introducing legislation to address this exact problem. "I'll be introducing legislation next week that would require a separate procedure to be followed for this type of injunction," Lee reveals. He explains that injunctions with nationwide applicability focused on presidential policy decisions should no longer be considered by a single federal district judge.

Instead, Lee's legislation would require these cases to go before a three-judge district court panel, a procedure currently used in limited cases dealing with House apportionment or federal legislative boundaries. This approach would have multiple benefits: "Make it infinitely more difficult to game the system, to judge shop, to file the case in a place that suggests from the outset you'll get a very favorable audience from a leftist judge."

Additionally, decisions from three-judge district court panels come with an automatic appeal to the Supreme Court, not discretionary review. "The Supreme Court has to review it, or if it chooses not to, it's still setting precedent," Lee explains. This would "expedite the process, diminish the amount of time that these leftist activist judges could tie up the Trump Administration in these legal proceedings."

The Limits of Judicial Power

In closing, Kirk poses a challenging question about whether there might ever be circumstances where a president should ignore a district court decision, particularly in matters of foreign policy, if nationwide injunctions continue spiraling out of control.

Senator Lee approaches the question thoughtfully, drawing an analogy to military chain of command situations where direct orders might not be followed. "There are circumstances in which a direct order from someone in your chain of command at the military isn't something that you follow. I don't know that the parallel works exactly, but yeah, I mean, there are theoretical limits beyond which a chief executive might deem it appropriate not to follow something."

He emphasizes that such situations would be rare: "The rule of law is important, and so normally one follows orders. It would be the extreme, extreme unusual exception for something like that to exist, but I don't think anyone doubts that there are limits to that."

Lee distinguishes recent circumstances where "the thing that the court was trying to stop had already happened, that was already underway," representing a different scenario than the hypothetical Kirk posed.

Charlie Kirk closes by thanking Senator Lee for his leadership and expressing hope that what he calls "black robe tyranny" can be reined in.

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[00:36] joining us now is Senator Mike Lee from

[00:39] the great state of Utah senator thank

[00:40] you so much for taking the

[00:42] time thank you for having me Senator

[00:46] what do you make of this rise of

[00:48] left-wing terrorism targeted at Tesla

[00:51] and Elon Musk my fear Senator and I hope

[00:54] I'm wrong and let's say stay in prayer

[00:56] that I'm wrong that someone is going to

[00:58] get shot the same way that Steve scales

[00:59] got shot and God forbid killed the left

[01:02] is creating a pressure cooker with so

[01:05] many of their Rank and fireal

[01:06] paramilitary troops that very well might

[01:09] result in one of us getting shot or

[01:12] killed God forbid that happens we're

[01:14] getting death threats every single day

[01:16] here on the Charlie Kirk show Senator

[01:18] Mike Lee your

[01:20] thoughts this is what domestic terrorism

[01:24] does this is what domestic terrorism

[01:26] looks like they very much want people to

[01:29] be in fear that's why they do it they

[01:32] understand that people understand that

[01:34] there's a risk of bodily harm or even

[01:36] death in these kinds of circumstances

[01:39] and that's designed to induce fear one

[01:41] of the many problems with this is that

[01:43] these folks apparently feel at Liberty

[01:45] to do this they've been trained by the

[01:47] radical left to think that there will be

[01:49] no consequence to them for doing this

[01:51] that they'll be applauded that they'll

[01:53] be rewarded this isn't going to end well

[01:55] for them uh and it's not going to end

[01:57] well for the country it's got to come to

[01:58] a stop one of the things that is missing

[02:01] in all of this we haven't seen

[02:04] politicians on the left elected office

[02:06] holders in the Democratic party in any

[02:08] significant numbers coming out and

[02:10] saying stop this madness end this stop

[02:12] the death threats stop the painting of

[02:15] the sasas the vandalism uh all forms of

[02:18] violence um knock it off you've seen

[02:21] that almost not at all representative

[02:23] Rana was one of the few who has come out

[02:25] to do it and I I invite uh all other

[02:28] Democrats to join him there's no good

[02:30] reason for them not to and they must we

[02:33] have a piece of tape here I believe in

[02:35] our library I'm trying to find it Jimmy

[02:37] Kimmel who's supposed to be a funny man

[02:40] he he he read on a script you know stop

[02:43] burning Teslas but obviously did it as a

[02:45] joke and did it as a way to try to of

[02:47] course encourage his audience to burn

[02:49] more Teslas as he did it with a little

[02:50] bit of a smirk trying to find the piece

[02:52] of tape here we have so much tape it's

[02:55] 195 thank you Ryan let's play Cut 195

[02:58] please and he fired them immediately

[03:00] upon Landing Tesla stock is way down

[03:03] almost disastrously so

[03:07] people people have

[03:09] been vandalizing Tesla vehicles new

[03:12] Tesla vehicles please don't vandalize

[03:15] don't ever vandalize Tesla vehicles and

[03:18] so

[03:20] uh Elon Musk has been making the rounds

[03:23] in the right-wing

[03:24] media Senator your

[03:27] reaction this isn't funny

[03:30] it's not cute it shouldn't be allowed on

[03:34] public Airwaves and I'm frankly stunned

[03:37] that his Network hasn't called him out

[03:38] on it hasn't

[03:40] apologized uh hasn't taken some action

[03:43] against them for doing this this is

[03:45] disgraceful look regardless of what your

[03:47] political views are as an American you

[03:50] should be able to look at this

[03:51] objectively and say uh you know um

[03:55] violence and acts of vandalism aren't a

[03:57] good thing and if you're going to

[03:59] comment on that either say something

[04:01] that's actually funny which this wasn't

[04:04] or ideally parrot was something

[04:07] suggesting that people not do it instead

[04:09] he did the opposite that is

[04:11] shameful and and yet Disney is not going

[04:13] to have a single Advertiser drop not a

[04:16] single Advertiser say you know I don't

[04:18] know that might go a little bit too far

[04:20] let's continue here this is uh Tim Waltz

[04:24] a sitting governor of a state cheering

[04:26] on the downfall of a American

[04:30] manufacturing public company Tim wals is

[04:34] cheering for people to lose their jobs

[04:36] these people are arsonists and Tim Walls

[04:38] knows something about arson because his

[04:40] creepy wife enjoyed the smell of arson

[04:44] during Floyd of paloa real thing play

[04:47] Cut

[04:49] 196 saying on my phone I don't know some

[04:51] of you know this on the iPhone they've

[04:52] got that little Stock app I added Tesla

[04:54] to it to give me a little boost during

[04:56] the

[04:57] day 22 five and dropping

[05:04] so

[05:05] and and if you own one if you own one

[05:09] we're not blaming you you can you can

[05:11] take dental floss and pull the Tesla

[05:13] thing off you know and take out just

[05:15] telling

[05:16] you Senator the the approach from the

[05:20] left seems to be allout maximalist

[05:24] cultural terrorism

[05:27] intimidation are any of your colleagues

[05:29] on the Senate I mean you guys have good

[05:31] relationships with Dems what what are

[05:33] they saying when you confront them in

[05:35] the hall like hey can you speak out

[05:36] against

[05:38] this like they haven't been inclined to

[05:42] talk about it and um then when

[05:45] Democratic politicians do talk about it

[05:47] they at least don't denounce it take

[05:49] this comment from Tim Walls for example

[05:52] um there's nothing wrong if you know if

[05:55] if that's his thing to monitor the

[05:58] stocks of or F or that company and

[06:02] figure out what kind of stock prices

[06:05] make him happy and make him sad and if

[06:07] he wants to celebrate when some company

[06:09] stock value goes down it's up to him

[06:11] it's weird here even that his own State

[06:14] retirement fund is pretty heavily

[06:16] invested in Tesla as I understand it so

[06:19] he's

[06:20] celebrating the diminution in value of

[06:24] his own state workers his own State

[06:26] retirees uh retirement benefits and of

[06:29] weird but what's doubly weird and

[06:32] concerning is that if he's if he's going

[06:34] to bring up Tesla at all why wouldn't he

[06:37] take that opportunity to say by the way

[06:40] regardless of whether you want to

[06:41] celebrate when Tesla's stock price goes

[06:43] down knock it off with the violence he

[06:45] didn't do that there's a reason he

[06:47] didn't do that and I I fear what it

[06:50] means for the future of our country and

[06:52] democrats should fear what that means

[06:54] for the future of the democratic

[06:56] party so let's uh I now want your

[06:58] thoughts here Senor on the Nationwide

[07:00] injunction crisis is there anything

[07:03] Congress will do to slow down this

[07:05] disturbing

[07:07] Trend look there are things that can be

[07:11] done I'll be introducing legislation

[07:13] next week that would require a a

[07:16] separate procedure to be followed for

[07:18] this type of injunction when I mean this

[07:19] type of injunction I mean a type of

[07:21] injunction that has Nationwide

[07:23] applicability within the US government

[07:26] uh and is focused on a you know a

[07:28] presidential poliy policy decision uh

[07:31] those should have to go rather than

[07:34] being considered by a single federal

[07:36] district judge they should have to uh go

[07:39] before a three-judge district court

[07:42] panel this is a procedure that's

[07:44] utilized in some limited cases most of

[07:47] them dealing with the apportionment of

[07:50] seats in the House of Representatives or

[07:51] the drawing of federal legislative

[07:53] boundaries uh but we could add this to

[07:55] the list and that's what my legislation

[07:57] would do make it infinitely more

[08:00] difficult to gain the system to judge

[08:02] shop uh to file the case in a place that

[08:06] suggests from the outset you'll get a

[08:08] very favorable audience from a leftist

[08:10] judge and then just as importantly

[08:13] anytime you've got a three-judge

[08:14] district court panel you've got an

[08:17] immediate automatic appeal to the US

[08:20] Supreme Court not the opportunity to

[08:21] seek sir Shari or discretionary review

[08:24] from the Supreme Court which is how it

[08:26] usually works there but rather a direct

[08:29] appeal meaning the Supreme Court has to

[08:31] review it or if it chooses not to it's

[08:34] still setting precedent this would

[08:36] expedite the process diminish the amount

[08:38] of time uh that these leftist activist

[08:42] judges uh could highe up the Trump

[08:46] Administration uh in these uh legal

[08:49] proceedings and it would also

[08:51] dramatically impair the ability of the

[08:54] plaintiffs uh to judge Shel so as to rig

[08:57] the system in their favor

[08:59] so I in closing here Senator it seems as

[09:02] if that this new pattern of Nationwide

[09:06] injunctions is the norm not the

[09:08] exception the Supreme

[09:11] Court has to meet and they have to try

[09:13] to reconcile this for the good of the

[09:16] country and the Republic I suppose the

[09:20] question I have here is as someone

[09:23] yourself who really cares about the law

[09:25] and the application of it at what point

[09:28] do you think it's ever appropriate for

[09:30] president Trump to ignore a district

[09:33] court decision if it involved foreign

[09:37] policy is there ever a threshold where

[09:38] that must happen if the injunctions

[09:41] continue out of

[09:44] control yeah this is maybe roughly

[09:46] analogous to the fact that there are

[09:49] circumstances in which a direct order

[09:51] from someone in your chain of command at

[09:52] the military isn't something that you

[09:54] follow um I don't know that the parallel

[09:57] works exactly but yeah I mean they theor

[09:59] iCal limits Beyond which a chief

[10:02] executive um might deem it appropriate

[10:05] not to follow something um uh it's got

[10:08] to be a matter of of individual

[10:09] discretion in the circumstance that we

[10:11] saw last week uh the thing that the

[10:14] court was trying to stop had already

[10:16] happened that was already underway so

[10:19] that's it's a different set of

[10:20] circumstances than what you were

[10:22] describing um the rule of law is

[10:26] important and so normally one uh follows

[10:29] orders it would be the extreme extreme

[10:33] unusual exception U or something like

[10:36] that to exist but I don't think anyone

[10:38] doubts that there are limits to that

[10:41] Senator uh thank you so much for your

[10:42] leadership I hope we can re in this

[10:45] black robe tyranny that we are living

[10:47] under thanks so

[10:49] much hey thank you

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