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Subscribe on YouTubeJD Vance's Winning Strategy Against Tim Walz: Make Kamala Harris His Boss the Central Focus
The upcoming vice presidential debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz represents the final major opportunity to reach voters before Election Day. Rather than focusing on attacking Walz directly, the strategic approach involves repeatedly framing Kamala Harris as Walz's boss, forcing him to defend her unpopular policies on fracking, immigration, the economy, and late-term abortion. This emasculating framing could resonate powerfully with swing-state male voters while keeping the focus where it belongs: on the deeply unpopular Harris agenda. With no additional debates scheduled, this October showdown takes on unprecedented importance as the last chance to prosecute the case against the current administration before millions of Americans cast their ballots.
The Strategic Framework: Make It About Harris, Not Walz
The core strategy for the vice presidential debate centers on a simple but powerful concept: JD Vance should relentlessly refer to Kamala Harris as Tim Walz's "boss" throughout the evening. This framing serves multiple purposes simultaneously. First, it keeps the focus on Harris, who polls show is far less popular than Walz among voters. Second, it forces Walz into a defensive posture where he must constantly defend Harris's record rather than promote his own persona. Third, the "boss" framing carries an emasculating quality that could prove particularly effective with male voters in swing states.
The rationale behind this approach is straightforward. Tim Walz is a buffoon, and people will see that naturally during the debate. However, bringing down his favorability ratings is not the objective. Voters are choosing a president, not a vice president. Anyone planning to vote against the Harris-Walz ticket because of concerns about Walz's National Guard service record likely already knows about those issues. The media largely declined to amplify those stories, which means the window for that angle of attack has closed.
Instead, Vance should pepper Walz with questions like: "Why hasn't your boss fixed this yet?" "What is your boss doing right now?" "Why doesn't your boss go tell the IRS she won't go after tax on tips right now?" "How are you guys not settling a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine?" "What is your boss doing right now to bring down inflation?" Make Walz carry the water for Harris throughout the entire evening, forcing him to defend policies he may not have created but must now answer for.
Understanding the Stakes and Context
This debate carries unusually high stakes because it appears likely to be the final debate of the entire election cycle. Unless a surprise second presidential debate materializes between Trump and Harris, the Vance-Walz showdown will represent the last opportunity for either campaign to make their case to a massive, unified audience. Typically, vice presidential debates are somewhat forgotten affairs watched primarily by political die-hards and quickly overshadowed by subsequent presidential debates. This time is different.
Both vice presidential nominees have received considerably more attention than is typical for their role. JD Vance's selection generated immediate controversy and intense media scrutiny, with opponents attempting to define him through old interviews and selective framing. Tim Walz entered the race with the "Minnesota nice" persona and attempted to rebrand Republicans as "weird," though that messaging has since faded from the campaign's emphasis.
The contrast between these two men is stark and symbolically rich. Vance represents the class traitor narrative—a man from a town much like Springfield, Ohio, who made it to Yale Law School and entered elite circles, only to turn around and become one of the most vocal critics of those same elites. His book "Hillbilly Elegy" sold millions of copies and was adapted into a successful Netflix film, though many viewers may not strongly associate the movie with Vance himself since it focuses so centrally on his mother and grandmother's struggles.
Walz, meanwhile, presents what some describe as "conservatism in drag"—a folksy Midwestern high school football coach persona who positions himself as just wanting to do what's right for regular people while casting aspersions on coastal elites and Ivy Leaguers. The irony, of course, is that Walz's actual policy record in Minnesota is deeply progressive, featuring some of the most radical abortion laws in the country and other left-wing priorities that hardly align with the moderate, commonsense image he projects.
The Harris Favorability Problem
Current polling data reveals why the "boss" strategy makes sense. While both campaigns are locked in a tight race within the margin of error, the numbers are not where the Harris campaign wants them to be. More critically, Kamala Harris herself polls worse than Tim Walz on personal favorability. This creates an opening: the more the debate becomes about Harris's unpopular policies and record, the worse the outcome for the Democratic ticket.
The Harris campaign knows they have a problem with male voters in particular. That's precisely why they selected Walz and why they've had him emphasize his coaching background, his hunting, and other stereotypically masculine pursuits. The campaign desperately needs to stop the bleeding with male voters, especially in the crucial swing states that will decide the election.
Nothing would undermine that effort more thoroughly than spending an entire debate watching Tim Walz unable or unwilling to stand up to his "boss." The optics of Walz meekly defending Harris's positions while Vance controls the framing would reinforce exactly the dynamic the Harris campaign is trying to avoid: the perception that their ticket represents weakness and progressive overreach rather than strength and common sense.
Key Policy Areas to Prosecute
Several specific policy areas offer rich opportunities for the "boss" framing. On fracking, Vance should repeatedly note that "your boss wants to ban fracking" and force Walz to defend or explain away Harris's previously stated positions. On immigration and the border, Vance can ask why Walz's boss hasn't fixed the crisis despite being in office for nearly four years. On inflation and the economy, Vance can question what Walz's boss is doing right now to help struggling families.
The bandwagon effect should also play a role. Vance should note, humbly but clearly, that the American people have seen both agendas and prefer the Trump-Vance ticket by double digits on the economy, immigration, and foreign affairs. This accomplishes two things: it positions their campaign as aligned with the majority of Americans, and it forces Walz into the uncomfortable position of either agreeing with those assessments or arguing that the American people are wrong.
On abortion, Vance has an opportunity to play offense rather than defense. He should be prepared to name the states that allow late-term abortion with no restrictions: New Mexico, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota, New Jersey, Vermont, and others. More importantly, he should note that Minnesota, under Walz's leadership, has some of the most radical abortion laws in the country. Then pivot to the filibuster question: "Will you get rid of the filibuster to give amnesty to illegal aliens?"
Anticipated Attacks and How to Counter Them
The Harris-Walz debate preparation team will come loaded with several lines of attack. First, they'll attempt to resurrect the "weird" framing that briefly gained traction earlier in the campaign. They'll look for any moment where Vance might appear awkward or uncomfortable, hoping to create a viral clip that reinforces that narrative. Previous stumbles, like the grocery store encounter where a woman didn't want to be on camera, showed vulnerability in this area.
Second, they'll try to paint Vance as extreme, likely invoking Project 2025 and attempting to tie Vance to its most controversial elements. They'll argue that Trump selected Vance specifically because of his radical views and that the American people should be concerned about having someone so extreme one heartbeat away from the presidency.
Third, expect personal character attacks. The presidential debate showed that the Harris campaign goes straight for character assassination, attacking Trump as egocentric and focusing on rally sizes rather than substance. Walz will likely deploy similar tactics, possibly even using words like "creepy" to describe Vance in an attempt to make voters uncomfortable with him personally.
Fourth, Walz will come armed with stories. He'll have prepared anecdotes about women affected by abortion restrictions, families struggling under Trump-era policies, or people hurt by the rhetoric around Springfield, Ohio and Haitian immigrants. The power of storytelling is real—when people hear stories, they enter a different psychological mode where their defenses lower and they try to place themselves in the shoes of the person being described.
Vance should be prepared to counter with his own stories, but with specific details. Not "a constituent called my office," but rather "Sarah, a 42-year-old mother of three from Springfield, called me last week and told me..." The specificity matters. First names, ages, basic descriptions—these details make stories feel real rather than manufactured. Vance's own background, detailed in "Hillbilly Elegy," provides rich material for this approach. He should remind viewers that the family they saw struggling in that movie—that was his family, his story, his lived experience of what's happened to places like Middletown, Ohio.
Playing to Vance's Strengths
JD Vance brings several natural advantages to this debate. First, he's done more media than any of the four candidates on either ticket over the past two months. He's been tested repeatedly by hostile reporters, conducted countless interviews, and held hybrid events that combine rally atmospheres with press conferences. He's sharp, practiced, and battle-tested in ways that Walz simply isn't at this level.
Second, Vance is naturally likable on camera. He has an affable quality, a lightness to his personality that contrasts sharply with the media's attempt to paint him as awkward or extreme. When voters actually watch him speak at length rather than seeing selectively edited clips, many find him relatable and genuine.
Third, Vance is extremely difficult to bait. Unlike some politicians who can be provoked into emotional responses or defensive postures, Vance tends to remain calm and redirect conversations back to substance. This quality will prove invaluable when Walz attempts the personal attacks his team has surely prepared.
Fourth, Vance has the better case to make. A majority of Americans think Trump's presidency was a success (51%), while only 37% say the same about the Biden-Harris administration. Americans prefer the Trump-Vance ticket on virtually every major issue: the economy, immigration, foreign policy. Vance can cite these numbers confidently, knowing that the substance is on his side even if the media environment isn't.
Walz's Vulnerabilities
Tim Walz, despite being a more experienced retail politician, has significant weaknesses that can be exploited. Most notably, he has a tendency to get hot under the collar when challenged. Local videos from Minnesota show that when pressed on his record or statements, Walz often becomes visibly upset and defensive. This creates an opening for Vance to bait him in ways similar to how Harris attempted to bait Trump in the presidential debate.
The key difference is that Vance should bait Walz not through personal attacks but through policy questions framed around Harris. "Governor, why hasn't your boss fixed the border?" "Why is your boss still allowing inflation to devastate American families?" "What is your boss doing right now to negotiate peace between Russia and Ukraine?" These questions put Walz in an impossible position: either defend unpopular Harris positions or distance himself from the top of his own ticket.
Additionally, Walz will likely try to bring up Springfield, Ohio and use it as an attack line against Vance. This is where having specific stories prepared becomes critical. Vance should have names, ages, and details of actual Springfield residents who have contacted him about how their community has changed. Not generic complaints, but specific accounts that humanize the concerns of people who feel their town has been transformed without their consent.
On abortion specifically, Walz's record in Minnesota is indefensible by the standards of most American voters. Minnesota now has some of the most permissive abortion laws in the nation, allowing late-term procedures that the vast majority of Americans oppose. While Walz may try to wrap this in the language of compassion and women's healthcare, the reality is that even in Minnesota—a state where "Minnesota nice" is a cultural touchstone—these policies represent an extremism that clashes with the moderate values of most residents. The problem is that Midwestern passivity, which manifests as a kind of passive-aggressive conflict avoidance, allowed these policies to be railroaded through without the sustained opposition they might have faced elsewhere.
The Media Environment and Expectations
One critical factor to understand is that JD Vance will inevitably have lower favorability ratings than Tim Walz simply because of the media environment. The mainstream media has worked tirelessly to define Vance negatively from the moment he was selected, amplifying the "cat lady" controversy from a years-old interview and framing him as extreme at every opportunity. Walz, by contrast, has received far gentler treatment, with most coverage emphasizing his folksy appeal and downplaying controversies around his military service record and his handling of the Minneapolis riots.
However, favorability and vote choice are not the same thing. Trump himself has lower favorability than Harris in most polls, yet the race remains tight because voters prioritize policy outcomes over personal feelings. Fifty-one percent of Americans say Trump's presidency was a success; only 37% say the same about Biden-Harris. People will vote for candidates they don't particularly like if they believe those candidates will deliver better results.
Vance's goal should not be to become more popular than Walz in the instant polls following the debate. His goal should be to prosecute the case against the Harris agenda, to remind voters why they're unhappy with the current administration, and to present the Trump-Vance ticket as the solution. If he accomplishes that, the favorability numbers will take care of themselves.
The Framing That Matters Most
Returning to the central strategic insight: framing Kamala Harris as Tim Walz's boss is not just clever wordplay. It's a framing that cuts to the heart of what this election is about. Voters are choosing a president. The vice presidential candidates matter primarily insofar as they illuminate or obscure the qualities of the people at the top of each ticket.
By consistently referring to Harris as Walz's boss, Vance accomplishes several objectives simultaneously. He keeps the focus on Harris, who is less popular. He prevents Walz from running as a folksy outsider when he's actually part of the incumbent administration. He creates an emasculating dynamic that undermines the Harris campaign's efforts to appeal to male voters. And he forces the debate to be about the issues where Trump-Vance are strongest: the economy, immigration, inflation, foreign policy.
The alternative—getting drawn into attacks on Walz's military service, his coaching record, or other biographical details—would be a strategic error. Those attacks might land with voters who are already committed to Trump, but they won't move persuadable voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia. Those voters want to hear how their lives will improve under a Trump administration and why four more years of Harris-Walz would make things worse.
The Path Forward
This debate represents the final major set-piece moment of the 2024 election cycle. After Tuesday night, there are no more scheduled debates, no more opportunities to reach tens of millions of Americans simultaneously. The campaigns will have just a few weeks to drive their messages through advertising, rallies, and earned media before early voting begins in earnest and Election Day arrives.
For the Trump-Vance campaign, this means the stakes are clear. JD Vance needs to emerge from this debate having successfully prosecuted the case against Kamala Harris and the Biden-Harris record. He needs to have demonstrated that he's knowledgeable, likable, and ready to serve. He needs to have knocked Tim Walz off his folksy-coach persona and forced him to answer for deeply unpopular progressive policies. And he needs to have reminded voters why they're dissatisfied with the current trajectory of the country and why Trump offers a better path forward.
The "boss" framing provides the through-line for accomplishing all of this. It's simple, it's memorable, it will generate media coverage, and it will force the debate to be about what matters: the choice between Trump's agenda and Harris's agenda, between Trump's record and Harris's record, between what Trump delivered and what Harris has failed to deliver.
If Vance executes this strategy effectively, he'll emerge from the debate having strengthened his ticket's position heading into the final stretch. If he allows himself to be drawn into personal controversies or biographical disputes, he'll have missed the opportunity. The choice is clear, the strategy is sound, and the stakes could not be higher.
Video Transcript
JD Vance should completely ignore Tim
Wells largely he should say continually
make it about K Harris and make it about
the agenda Tim Walls is a buffoon and
people know that and they'll see that
but KLA Harris is far less popular than
Tim Walls and this debate is not going
to be about bringing down Tim walls'
favorables people are voting for the
president right now that's the way it is
anyone who I guess anyone who was going
to vote against like K because they're
mad about walls' like guard service
probably already knows about it correct
so at this point we tried to you know
set that in media didn't take it this is
about Trump and Harris that's the all
people are thinking about so then in my
opinion JD Vance should do the following
he should keep on saying well Governor
walls your boss your boss your boss
refer to kamla Harris as his boss and
saying well your boss wants to ban
fracking keep on attacking so that Tim
Wallace has to defend kamla Harris the
entire time and not have to you know
defend whatever weird record now you
could pepper in you know Tamp and boys
bathrooms and blah blah blah blah blah
but framing her as his boss is very
emasculating will help with men voters
because Tim Walls will not know what to
do with that and basically make all the
points that we wished would have been
said in the first debate right in and
there why haven't why isn't your boss
fixed it yet what is your boss doing
right now Tim Walls why doesn't she go
tell the IRS she won't go after tax on
tips right now why you know how why are
you guys not settling the peace deal or
doing a peace deal with between Russia
and Ukraine what is your boss doing
right now to bring down inflation one
after the other make him have to carry
the water for her that's my thoughts I
love that I think that's very
strong very strong that's the advice I
gave JD that that's it's good advice
it's good advice and I I hope he I hope
he takes it uh it is you guys like the
framing your boss I love it that's what
I love the most what I worry is I could
imagine him turning that around in a
good way where he like maybe he
appropriates it where he's like my boss
is a hero who fought the cartels my B
and he stly turns it into this Litany of
how great she is the reason I like it
though is that no one really likes a
girl boss right now as far as in swing
voters like hyper do you guys know what
I'm saying so kind of you know CU you
you could say your running mate mm okay
you could say vice president Harris but
your boss it makes him look like this
little thing that is controlled by
exactly and why why is that important
the only attempt that they want out of
this BP debate what are their marching
orders what does success look like for
the comma campaign because the polling
data is not going great for them right
now it's not going great for us but it's
not where they want it to be it is
completely in the margin they're telling
Tim Walls for the love of God can we not
lose men as badly as we are right talk
about how you do camo and you know you
tried nicotine gum once or
whatever nothing will turn off men more
than the idea that Tim Walls can't stand
up to K Harris they also will want to
they'll try to bring back the weird
thing I think I don't know if they'll
explicitly say weird but they'll want
to when I'd say like Vance's worst
moments of the campaign have been like
if there's anything like a little bit
awkward and some of that was just
inevitable like okay cat lady thing it's
a three four-year-old interview and you
can't undo any of that but it was like
he had that one where he was at the
grocery store or something and like try
like the woman didn't want to be on
camera and it kind of looked like the
end of a sitcom episode or something
that was not a great moment it wasn't
great and but they'll want to try to get
a moment like that where he maybe like
fumbles over it and then of course they
also want to say Vance you're really
extreme you're the project 2025
candidate that's why you're on the Trump
campaign they'll try to do that they're
going to try to say Trump is really
radical and the fact that this guy is on
stage they're going to try to make him
seem creepy that too that's the word
would agrees that I mean I I don't J I
wonder if they'll say that he was like
you know the American people don't want
to creep for vice president something
like that I could see that and I think
that I mean go ahead Charlie sorry no I
don't have anything strong to say go
ahead no no no but if you look back at
what
the the presidential debate kind of
maybe shows us about the team around
them that is doing debate prep they go
straight for the jugular I mean she was
making ad hominy attacks she was
attacking his character as an egocentric
person all this stuff you know attacking
like rally sizes none of that stuff's
going to going to work on JD but he will
launch those attacks and I think JD is
gonna like his you know yes it's true
net favorability Tim Waltz is going to
be higher than JD simply because of the
media environment that we exist in but
you know that's what's interesting
Charlie you see this in like the CNN
Clips as well that you know Trump has a
lower favorability than KLA Harris but
guess what
51% of the respondents also said that
Trump's presidency was a success and
only 37 of them 37% said that uh Biden
Harris Administration has been a success
so you can have low favorability while
people still agree with the policy and
we'll still vote for you and also I
think JD's natural likability on camera
is going to absolutely put sunlight on
the media's astroturfing of JD as soon
as he got into the race with the cat
lady stuff so think he's naturally
really likable he's affable he's he's
got like a lightness to his personality
and he's I I do not think you can bait
JD Vance at all so those attacks those
personal attacks are not going to
work so I I agree and I the case needs
to be about Prosecuting it against Tim
Walls and and make it about kamla
meaning just Tim Walls is nothing more
than a bag carrier for KL Harris
emasculate him minimize him as Jack
Appley put it don't let him do this like
coach locker room Midwest thing you know
we're going to pump up the country it's
a bunch of nonsense make them an this is
an interesting thing I think we might
get into more detail in this VP debate
make him have to answer for the border
for immigration for Crime for the
economy and the other piece of advice I
gave JD is embrace the bandwagon effect
say you know a majority of Americans
think our ticket's better for the
economy a vast majority of Americans
think that we're better on immigration
and all of a sudden it's very hard for
Tim Walls because all of a sudden he has
to like attack people to say like the
polls are not true or something I like
that Framing and just say look we are on
and he'll be better at saying that than
Trump would Trump would just say
everyone agrees we're better on the
border 100% so so JD could say very
humbly look the American people have
seen both agendas and we double- digit
favorites preferred on management of the
economy double digit on managing afford
Affairs and double digon immigration and
Governor walls your ticket is deeply
unpopular because the American like
something like that I think is a great
way of basically the bandwagon effect
then is no one will be like well maybe
that's right yeah I do think he's you
know what I'm saying like all of a
sudden people want to be in the majority
of Americans how would you how would you
have JD phrase the answer on uh
abortion I think we should play offense
on it and I think you got to go to late
turn
I think that he could definitely
navigate with Precision Tim walls' late
term abortion extremism better than
president Trump could I think JD Vance
needs to know the states by name that
allow late term abortion and list them
off again I M saw this New Mexico
Colorado Washington Oregon Minnesota New
Jersey Vermont uh and a couple others
with no restrictions and then I think
that he should say but the people who
need to answer the question is they want
to get rid of the filibuster to do this
Governor walls can you tell us will you
get rid of the filibuster for anything
else will you get rid of the filibuster
to add DC and PTO Rico and the states
all a great I wouldn't I wouldn't do the
state Hood one because that's like we
get that but I think Norm wouldn't say
do you see a state is but that's an
escape patch away amnesty I would say
would you get rid of the filibuster for
to do amnesty yeah so so then then so
Governor wals asked answered the
question to the American people can you
commit to saying or what not going to
say commit because that's too much of an
escape hatch will you use the Phil will
you get rid of the filibuster to give
amnesty to illegal
aliens and then just like let them
answer yeah Charlie the yeah the the
other the other angle on the abortion
thing though and you had this in that
original viral tweet was that he has the
most radical abortion laws in the in the
country correct um and one of the most
most horri horrifying disgusting
practices in our country I genuinely
believe it's it's a scourge on our
country it's a spiritual Darkness um and
I think for JD to sort of use Trump's
attack vector and say this is radical
we're not the radical ones we're say
we're saying let the states decide
there's a lot of radical policies in
wisc in Minnesota and it's one of these
states too Charlie and you know this
very well because you kind of know that
part of the world they call it Minnesota
nice and it's guys like Tim Waltz that
are getting that are railroading these
policies through on a genuine generally
good people that are just kind of a
little too passive for their own good
and um the rest of the country is not
like that though they're going to
they're going to see and hear these
policies I think it's genuinely radical
and will strike the average American as
as too extreme uh I know the type and
it's too bad that that Midwestern nice
has turned inverted to allow ourselves
to be looted and taken advantage of
Minnesota ni always included a very
strong passive aggressive element to it
totally passive aggressive that's why
NPR so popular mhm NPR is the most
passive aggressive medium
ever Big
Time Minnesota something I want to throw
out just uh I know that that Tim Walls
is going to do this because we've seen
guys like that do this again and again
and it was a huge part of the DNC and
that's the power of story so he's going
to come with a couple of these abortion
stories in his back pocket he's going to
have stories like that I would love to
hear JD Vance maybe not um go up on
stories like that but we know for
example that Tim Walls is most
definitely going to bring up Springfield
Ohio he's going to try to use this as an
attack line on JD you know have a few of
those stories in the back pocket with
names of individuals you know this
person that I spoke to on the phone and
you know they told you know she told me
this happened to her daughter or this
man told me that this has happened to
his job and not just you can't just say
like a constituent called my office and
said this right which you know a normal
politician would say but what JD I think
and I hope what we'll do is actually
have you know the name well just the
first name is fine enough the docs
people whatever but you know you know
something about the description this age
called me up we had this great
conversation those are the type of
stories that actually leave a lasting
impact on people because when you're
hearing a story psychologically so it's
like a like when Charlie does these
tabling events and I you know sort of
got to you know appear at the one you
know you're you're coming to it on both
sides people have their defenses up they
have their you know their their facts
and figures they're ready to go but when
you're hearing a story you enter in a
completely different psychological model
of your mind where you're you're in
receive mode you just want to hear
someone's story and when we hear stories
we we relate to them and we try to
interact with them in a way
psychologically where we're putting
ourselves if we can as much as we can in
the shoes of the person who did it
that's why documentaries can be so
powerful etc etc it's why Hollywood is
so powerful so use that power JD use the
power of story use the power of the
story of your own background in
Middletown Ohio and how you grew up and
what's happened there using that power
of a story is always going to be JD's
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where Everyone's Watching and I think
there's also been a lot of attention on
the vice presidential nominees relative
to some prior years like I don't think
Pence got that much attention in
2016 uh kamla wasn't getting as much
attention as Biden himself in 2020 but
this time you know both sides have
really hit the opposing faction and
there's a big difference in style
between them uh like you
have Vance is kind of has the you know
came from a town much like Springfield
Ohio goes to Yale has kind of this class
Trader element to him uh because you
know he was allowed into the elite but
now he's turned and become critical of
Elites and then walls we have you know
the
whole conservatism in drag sort of thing
that he presents where he's this folksy
guy from the Midwest who just just wants
to do what's right gosh darn it and
we're not going to support all those You
Know Rich Coastal Elite Ivy leager folk
and so there's a big contrast between
them and I guess I do wonder how
does uh you know Vance come out of that
Clash successfully cuz on the one hand
walls is a more experienced politician
he Pro he has more practiced at that
folksy Appeal on the other hand Vance
has definitely been the one who's done
the most media in the last two months uh
going against reporters doing tons of
interviews uh so he's certainly like the
most practiced of any of the politicians
right now and I'd hope that that pays
some dividends what are your thoughts
guys um
it seems as if this is going to be a
continuation of the Trump kamla debate
also this is the last debate that we're
going to have between these two camps
Jack you
first yeah so I mean there's a lot here
um now one thing that I think
strategy-wise that I would say for JD
Vance you know he's he's introduced
himself to the to the you know the
country a number of times because
obviously his book came out that uh just
took off you know in when it was first
released in 2016 2017 sold millions of
copies it continues to sell millions of
copies by the way then the movie came
out on Netflix in 2020 that uh obviously
did actually did very well I going going
say obviously because Netflix doesn't
always release their numbers and they
certainly have kept this onto wraps but
I've I've had people tell me that it's
been one of the most uh one of the best
performing videos on all of Netflix for
one of their independently produced
Productions and again you've got Glen
Close you've got uh Amy Adams playing
his mother but one of the issues that JD
Vans has even with the enormous success
of hillbilly elegy is that people don't
always necessarily associate him with
the movie because the movie so uh so
solely focuses not solely but so
centrally focuses on the mother and
grandmother that people don't realize oh
wait that's JD Vance's family so if
there's anything he needs to do in terms
of introducing himself is just remind
people that that and he's been doing
this on the stump over and over by the
way uh remind people that is me that is
my family that family that you remember
from that movie that is us and that was
a story that I put out that's number one
number two politically so that's on the
personality side politically speaking um
which I think will cover up a lot of the
stuff that that we're talking about in
terms of Tim Walls being able to try to
come across as folksy and and he does by
the way he comes across like uh you know
a high school football coach and even
though he was never a lead coach
and then when it comes to the actual
politics of it I think and you've seen
him do this in media again and again
You' seen him do this in these I love
these these sort of like mini it's like
a mini Town Hall SL rally SL press
conference that JD Vance has done these
hybrid events which are fantastic where
he's taking interview questions from
media but he's also talking to just like
regular people and he's got a crowd
there of supporters so whenever he's you
know jousting with the mainstream media
they come back on him and you know
people are laughing and taking his side
and it just very it works really really
well and the clips do well because it
looks like it looks like a fun
atmosphere he keeps it positive but he
always focuses on kamla Harris he
doesn't talk about Tim Walls he doesn't
get into the personal stuff about Tim
Waltz he can if he has to I'm sure by
the way that Tim Walls is going to be
doing the same thing he's going to make
it about Donald Trump and so you've got
to you've got to make sure to maintain
that that Focus on KLA Harris that she's
the candidate she's also the incumbent
by the way and we've seen this huge push
from kamla's Camp right now to try to
paint Trump in a way as the incumbent
seeing as he's the former president
where it's like or like to say that
she's not part of the Biden
Administration well she is as a matter
of fact and she's the only uh as far as
we know the only cogent um uh you know
non- scile member of the Biden
Administration as far as we know the
senior ranking one fair enough even
though we've got Joe Biden running
cabinet meetings so you know you've got
to you've got to keep it on her but one
of the main one of the main things that
he can do to really bait Tim Walls is
that Tim Walls has a tendency even
though he is a more polished politician
he has a big tendency to get hot under
the collar and we've seen this again and
again in these local videos from
Minnesota go back to some of the videos
during covid whenever he's challenged on
something that he's done or challenged
on something that he said he gets very
very upset about this and so I think
there's opport I think there's
opportunities for JD Vance to bait Tim
Walls the way that comma kept trying to
bait Donald Trump in the first debate
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