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Subscribe on YouTubeJD Vance on 100 Days as Vice President: Border Security, Foreign Policy, and Fighting the Unelected Judiciary
Vice President JD Vance joins Charlie Kirk to reflect on the first 100 days of the Trump administration, revealing the extraordinary pace of accomplishments that have reshaped America. From securing the border with a 99% reduction in crossings without a single piece of legislation, to making unprecedented progress in ending the Russia-Ukraine war, Vance shares what's working, what's facing resistance, and how President Trump's relentless leadership is breaking through decades of bureaucratic obstruction. Vance also addresses the aggressive pushback from unelected judges attempting to block the administration's agenda and explains why enforcing the law equally, regardless of political affiliation, is essential to restoring justice in America. This conversation offers a rare inside look at the strategy, frustrations, and breakthroughs happening behind the scenes.
Operating at Trump Speed: A New Pace of Leadership
Vice President JD Vance describes the experience of working alongside President Trump as both demanding and liberating. The president's approach is characterized by late nights, early mornings, and constant pressure to accomplish objectives faster. Vance explains that this creates a clear operational environment where he has broad latitude to execute the president's vision, knowing he'll be empowered to act decisively or questioned if progress stalls.
What surprised many observers is how much the administration has accomplished without new legislation. By simply changing enforcement priorities and sending clear signals about policy direction, the Trump administration has achieved results that previous administrations claimed required complex bipartisan compromises. This approach has proven particularly effective at the southern border, where enforcement alone has produced historic reductions in illegal crossings.
The Border Victory: A 99% Reduction Without Legislation
The most visible accomplishment of the first 100 days has been border security. Vice President Vance reports that border crossings are down approximately 99% since President Trump took office, with only nine people released into the interior of the United States. This represents one of the most significant public policy achievements in American history, accomplished entirely through executive action and enforcement changes.
During a border visit about a month into the administration, Vance observed border patrol agents experiencing what he described as "almost boredom"—a stark contrast to the chaos of just months earlier. The simple act of signaling serious enforcement intentions convinced most potential border crossers not to attempt the journey, making those who do try easier to process and return.
Beyond the headline numbers, Vance emphasizes the humanitarian benefits that receive less attention. Thousands of children who would have been trafficked across the southern border have been spared that fate. Cartel activity has significantly decreased. The entire ecosystem of exploitation that thrived under open border policies has collapsed simply because enforcement signals changed.
Hidden Victories: What the Press Won't Cover
When asked about accomplishments that haven't received adequate attention, Vance points to the fundamental reset in trade policy and economic expectations. While trade policy generates criticism from the left-wing press, it has fundamentally altered how American businesses, foreign investors, and workers view the future economy.
The vice president reports that conversations with CEOs reveal a widespread recognition that "we're not going back." The era of shipping American jobs overseas and relying on hostile powers for critical manufacturing is over. This psychological shift in the business community may prove to be the most enduring change from the Trump administration—a permanent rebalancing of global trade that prioritizes American workers and national security.
This transformation didn't require years of legislative battles or international summits. It required presidential leadership willing to challenge decades of failed orthodoxy and the courage to withstand criticism while fundamentally restructuring America's economic relationships.
Foreign Policy Progress: Breaking Through on Russia and Ukraine
Vice President Vance describes the administration's approach to ending the Russia-Ukraine war as frustrating, complex, and yet more successful than the previous three years combined. While the conflict hasn't ended, all parties—including the Ukrainians, Europeans, and Russians—have acknowledged that President Trump's diplomacy has advanced prospects for peace more in three months than occurred in the previous three years.
The negotiation process involves constant back-and-forth, with moments of frustration with both sides. The Russians have their preferred peace settlement, the Ukrainians have theirs, and the job of American diplomacy is to bridge that gap. The breakthrough, according to Vance, is getting both sides actively discussing what they would need to stop fighting.
Vance pushes back against mainstream media narratives suggesting that if the war continues for a few more years, Ukraine will win decisively. He describes this as divorced from reality. The actual trajectory involves potential societal collapse, catastrophic demographic consequences, millions more deaths, and the risk of nuclear escalation. The demographics of both countries are already dire, and prolonged conflict threatens to eliminate entire generations.
President Trump refuses to let his team give up on peace negotiations, even when frustrations mount. The approach combines pressure and incentives, rewards and punishments, constantly working to bring the sides closer together. Vance reports feeling more optimistic today than two weeks ago, and more optimistic two weeks ago than two months ago, indicating genuine progress despite the difficulty.
The Judiciary Problem: Unelected Judges vs. The People's Will
One of the most significant obstacles facing the administration is aggressive interference from unelected federal judges. Vice President Vance acknowledges that President Trump anticipated this resistance, approaching the challenge with a "general on the battlefield" mindset. The administration expected that judges would attempt to stop everything, and they prepared accordingly.
The case of Hannah Dugan, a Milwaukee County Circuit Court judge, exemplifies the problem. Dugan engaged in what Vance describes as "explicit obstruction of justice," attempting to prevent federal authorities from executing valid deportation orders. This represents judges asserting authority over immigration enforcement that properly belongs to the executive branch.
Vance emphasizes that frustration over the pace of deportations—felt by the base, himself, and President Trump—stems directly from this judicial obstruction. The solution isn't to give up but to fight through it: taking cases to the Supreme Court when appropriate, finding alternative legal methods, and persistently pursuing the will of the people despite judicial roadblocks.
The vice president frames this as correcting 40 years of accumulated problems: judges who think they rule the country instead of the American people, bureaucratic systems that have grown unchecked, and a two-tiered justice system that protects Democrats from consequences. The principle that "no one is above the law"—a phrase Democrats frequently invoked—must apply to everyone, including judges who obstruct justice.
Restoring Equal Justice: Consequences for Lawbreakers
Vice President Vance articulates a fundamental principle that the administration is working to restore: equal application of the law regardless of wealth, poverty, Republican affiliation, or Democratic affiliation. The American system of justice requires that anyone who breaks the law faces consequences through the judicial system.
There's a strategic benefit to this approach beyond basic fairness. If Democrats know they will face penalties for violating the law, they may stop violating the law and stop weaponizing the Justice Department against political opponents. The goal is to restore common sense, but that's impossible if one party believes it can imprison opponents with impunity while remaining immune from consequences.
This represents a fundamental shift from the previous status quo, where certain political actors operated above accountability. By demonstrating that violations of law will result in consequences regardless of political identity, the administration aims to restore basic rule of law principles that have eroded over decades.
The Moral Imperative: Peace and Border Security
Charlie Kirk notes that among all the administration's priorities, ending the Russia-Ukraine war and securing the southern border carry the highest moral significance. The border is already secured, representing a complete victory in that domain. The ongoing work to broker peace in Eastern Europe involves preventing thermonuclear war and preserving an entire Ukrainian generation from elimination.
Vice President Vance agrees with this framing, acknowledging the profound human stakes involved in both issues. The southern border work has already saved thousands of children from trafficking and exploitation. The diplomatic work on the Russia-Ukraine conflict could prevent millions of additional deaths, societal collapse, and nuclear escalation.
These aren't abstract policy discussions or political point-scoring opportunities. They represent questions of life and death, civilization and chaos, peace and catastrophic war. President Trump's relentless focus on achieving results in these areas reflects an understanding of their fundamental importance that transcends normal political considerations.
Looking Forward: Fixing 40 Years in Four Years
Vice President Vance emphasizes that 100 days, while a significant milestone, represents less than a third of the first year of the Trump administration. The project underway is nothing less than fixing 40 years of accumulated problems: bogus bureaucratic systems, judicial overreach, trade policies that hollowed out American manufacturing, and border policies that created humanitarian catastrophe.
This won't happen overnight, but it had to happen, and thankfully it's getting done. The administration faces ongoing resistance from entrenched interests, ideological opponents, and institutional inertia. But the fundamental reset is underway across multiple domains simultaneously.
The pace will continue, the pressure will persist, and President Trump will keep demanding faster results and greater accomplishments. For Vice President Vance, this creates an environment where bold action is encouraged, incremental thinking is rejected, and the focus remains on delivering for the American people who elected this administration to fundamentally change direction.
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Okay, joining us now is the vice
president of the United States of
America, Mr. JD Vance. Mr. Vice
President, great to have you in the
program. Boy, it feels good to say that.
How are you doing, my friend? And great
to have you on the program.
Thanks, Charlie. It's good to be with
you. And yeah, man, it's it's kind of
crazy. Um it feels in some ways like
we've done more in 100 days than other
administrations do over a hundred years,
but uh it's uh it feels good and uh you
know obviously we're going to keep up
the momentum as much as we can, but it's
it's a big milestone and I'm happy to
celebrate it with my dear friend Charlie
Kirk. Well well thank you and let's dive
into that. So just first ho how has how
has it been as far as operating at Trump
speed and Trump pace and the the
victories are enormous and it's easy to
forget some of them because there are so
many um executive orders so many
problems that are now fixed. What has
surprised you? What has met your
expectations? what has now exceeded your
expectations both from working closely
with the president and also the
portfolio of issues that you and the
entire administration have decided to
tackle.
Yeah. Well, obviously the president is
working at a very fast pace. Um, you
know, he goes to bed late, he wakes up
early. He's constantly asking us how can
we do more? How can we take, you know, a
given objective and accomplish it
faster? And and so I I think it's
actually liberating in a lot of ways
because you know that whatever you do,
so long as it is consistent with the
president's objective. He's going to
empower you to do it. He's going to
encourage you to do it. And if you're
not doing it, he's going to ask why the
hell haven't you got it done. And I
think that's a very easy way to go about
the job of vice president because, you
know, I I feel like I have pretty broad
latitude, right, to accomplish the
things that the president wants us to
accomplish. And so I I've really enjoyed
the job. Obviously, I've only been in it
100 days, but I've really enjoyed I
think we've gotten a lot done and I
think in particular you there are so
many issues where the the press said you
need a new piece of legislation, you
need a grand bipartisan compromise where
actually just having a different
president changing the law enforcement
apparatus of the country has
accomplished so much. And I think
obviously the the biggest example of
that is at the border where I think at
this point we are down 99% or close to
it border crossings since the president
took office. uh you you have this sense
of almost you know when I visited the
border about a month ago there was a
sense of almost boredom among the border
patrol agents because there were so many
people coming across just a few short
months ago that they were they were like
wait where did everybody go and it turns
out if you just sit in the signal that
we're going to do border enforcement you
tell people not to come most of them
don't come and so that those who do are
easier to process easier to send back
home so I I think that's where we've
seen the most immediate success I think
some issues isues obviously, you know,
trade, bring back manufacturing, some of
the things that we're working on when it
comes to foreign policy. These things
take a little bit longer to bake, but um
I I think the border has been in some
ways the most rewarding because you see
the results so quickly. Yeah. And and
the accomplishments are enormous and
growing. What would you say is the
biggest victory that hasn't received as
much press attention? The border in
right-wing circles and conservative
media has been mentioned and I think
needs to be mentioned every single day.
Every single day. We need to talk about
how we actually have a border. There has
only been nine people that were released
into the interior of the United States.
That is a
99.99% reduction. It is one of the
greatest, most significant public policy
accomplishments and victories without a
piece of legislation in American
history. Brett Stevens went on Bill
Maher show and said this is one of the
worst hundred days. This is the worst
100 days ever in American history and
someone should look that guy in the eyes
and say unlike the wars that you wanted
to start Brett Stevens for years, we
actually have a border thanks to
President Trump. What would you say is
the greatest victory though, Mr. Vice
President, that hasn't received much
attention? Something you've been working
on, something that you say, "Boy, this
is a big deal and I wish more people
knew about it."
Yeah. I mean, look, I I can point to a
few things, but ju just on the border,
you're right. Obviously, the border has
gotten the most attention. I think it's
it's the place where you can see the
clearest direction and connection
between the president's policy and the
reduction of border crossings. To your
point, I think it's a radical
improvement and in a very short amount
of time without a single piece of
legislation. We had a border invasion
and now we don't. And the only thing
that changed was Donald Trump's
leadership. That is a very good thing.
But you there are all these subtle ways
in which border enforcement, Charlie, it
doesn't gather the same headlines. It
doesn't, you know, gather the same focus
as the topline reduction border
crossing. But Charlie, you just have
cartels who are not engaging in the same
level of activity. You have people who
would have crossed, would have been
processed and released into the country
who just aren't even trying to make the
trek. That means there are probably
thousands of children who otherwise
would have been trafficked across the
southern border who haven't been. And so
yeah, it does gather the most headlines,
but there are so many parts of a
successful border policy that don't
gather headlines at all that I think are
worth focusing on. And and Charlie, I
mean, if I point to another issue, it
would have to be foreign policy because,
as you know, this is sort of one of
these issues where I think the president
is so right, his critics are so wrong.
Um, you know, uh, yeah, have have has
has have the Russians and the Ukrainians
stopped fighting? No. But have we made
more progress in three months than we
made in the previous three years?
Absolutely. And you have even the
Ukrainians, the Europeans, the Russians
all sort of simultaneously admitting
sometimes begrudgingly that Donald
Trump's diplomacy has advanced the ball
there more in in a few months than than
the previous few years. That's a big big
accomplishment. The the final thing I'd
say, Charlie, is, you know, while the
the trade policy is maybe where we get
the most criticism from the far-left
press, I actually think that what
President Trump has done has
fundamentally reset things. Uh whether
you're an American business, and I
talked to a lot of CEOs, uh whether
you're a foreign investor, uh whether
you're somebody who just works and lives
in the economy, which is of course most
of our citizens, I think that people
recognize we're not going back. like
we're not going to go back to the same
old ways of shipping American jobs
overseas, of relying on hostile powers
to make the things that we need. And
there's a lot still to do there and
there's a lot to accomplish. Obviously,
as the president has said, we're
negotiating a lot of these trade deals,
but man, there's just this sense among
the business community that this is a
new era in American economic and
investment, American economic activity.
I I think that doesn't get the
headlines, but that may be the enduring
change from the second Trump
administration is people recognize we're
not going back. This rebalancing of
global trade is here to stay, and that's
all because of Donald Trump's
leadership. And and so I I I want to now
re emphasize one point about what has
stopped the agenda or it's tried to stop
the agenda, which is the power center of
the unelected judiciary. We see a little
bit of this with Hannah Dugan, the
Milwaukee County Circuit J uh judge. I
want you to talk about that, but also
connect it to a broader macro point that
we expected, you know, when I was in
some transition meetings, there was an
expectation that there would be
outrageous nationwide injunctions, that
there would be judges trying to step in
and stop the agenda that people voted
for. But it has gone to levels that none
of us could have expected that the
unelected judiciary is basically they're
endeavoring on an all-out assault
against the will of the people. Speak to
the Hannah Dugan case and then also the
how we have to now navigate a rather
complex thicket of nationwide
injunctions, hundreds of which against
the Trump administration.
Well, so I I might put push back
slightly on that, Charlie, because I
think if if anybody was aware of what
the judicial system was capable of,
these unelect unelected bureaucrats, it
was Donald J. Trump. And I think coming
into this, he very much had a general on
the battlefield mindset where he said,
"They're going to try to stop us from
doing everything and we have to be
prepared." And I understand, you know,
there are folks in the base, Charlie,
who are frustrated with the pace of
deportations. I get it. I'm frustrated,
too. I know the president is frustrated,
too. He has said so publicly. But that's
because we're running against this wall
of the unelected bureaucracy. But the
only way, you know, through it, Charlie,
is to actually run through it and to
fight this stuff out legally, to take
this stuff to the Supreme Court where
appropriate, to find alternative legal
methods. When one district court judge
stops us, you know, you go on to the
next thing and you try to ensure that
you can accomplish the law and
accomplish the will of the people. And
that's just what we're doing. And you
know, yeah, 100 days is a big milestone,
Charlie, but think about this. We're not
even a third of the way done through the
first year of the Trump administration.
And I think that what we're really doing
is fixing 40 years of accumulated bogus
bureaucratic BS. Uh we're we're fixing
40 years of judges thinking they rule
the country instead of the American
people. We're we're we're fixing 40
years of judges telling the president
what to do instead of the American
people telling the president what to do.
And that's not going to happen
overnight, but I think it had to happen.
And and thankfully, we're actually
getting it done. And you know, you you
talk about the Dugan case. I mean, this
was a judge who was engaged in explicit
obstruction of justice. We had people
who had valid deportation orders and
this judge was trying to prevent us from
doing the job the American people
elected us to do. As you heard Democrats
say so often, no one is above the law.
And that includes judges who are
obstructing justice. And there's going
to be a lot of justice for people who
violated the law. Charlie, that's what
you have to do. the the American
principle of justice is not, you know,
because you're a Democrat, you don't
actually face the justice of the
judicial system. The the American system
of justice is that rich or poor,
Republican or Democrat, if you broke the
law, you go through the judicial system.
And we're committed to bringing that
basic principle back to life in the
United States of America. And and I
think there's a side benefit to it,
Charlie. This is not why you do these
things, of course, but if Democrats know
that they are going to be penalized for
violating the law, maybe they'll stop
violating the law and maybe they'll stop
using the Justice Department as a weapon
system against their political
opponents. We want to bring back common
sense to this country. But there's no
way to do it if Democrats think they can
throw their opponents in jail. They're
now finding out that if they violate the
law, they're going to face the
consequences. And that is a very
important principle to bring back to
this country. Fi final uh point I want
to discuss with you Mr. Vice President
uh is something that obviously you and I
care about. You mentioned it previously
which is ending the Russian Ukrainian
war. President Trump um was sitting next
to Zalinsky in an epic picture uh in
Italy at the Pope's funeral. Uh this was
their first meeting since your Oval
Office meeting where you were also in
there. talk what you know about this
that you could share and how the
president is doing everything he
possibly can to bring peace to the
region and what is the United States's
perspective on this seemingly
impossible struggle and war that
President Trump is leaning in literally
with Zalinski to try to get finished.
Yeah, Charlie. So, I I obviously don't
want to prejudge the negotiations
because they are very much you know, in
full swing. I actually had a
conversation just this morning about
this particular issue. Here's here's the
way that I put it, Charlie, is, you
know, one, if I could bring people on
the inside, I think what they'd see is
that sometimes you're incredibly
frustrated with Ukrainians. Sometimes
you're incredibly frustrated with the
Russians. You know, that that is the
nature of the negotiation is you're
going back and forth and sometimes you
just want to throw your hands up. But
that's what President Trump doesn't let
us do. He doesn't let us just throw our
hands up and say, you know what, uh,
this is ridiculous. He forces us to
continually go back to the table,
continually try to find a solution,
bring the sides together. And that that
really is sort of where this thing is
right now. You have the Russians who
have one peace settlement they'd like.
You'd have the Ukrainians, they have a
different peace settlement. The biggest
breakthrough is that we've got both of
them talking about what they would need
in order to stop fighting. But what one
side needs is different from what the
other side needs. And it's the job of
diplomacy to try to bring those two
sides together. I can't say with 100%
certainty, Charlie, we're going to be
able to do it. But I I do think that
we're trying very hard. And I feel more
optimistic about it today uh than I did
two weeks ago. And I felt more
optimistic two weeks ago than I did two
months ago. So we're making progress.
Things are moving along. We're just
going to have to keep on. You know,
sometimes you apply pressure. Uh,
sometimes you're a little bit more
friendly, sometimes you offer rewards,
sometimes you offer punishments. It's
just it's it's a nitty-gritty dirty job,
but it's the job the American people
elected the Trump administration to do.
If if this doesn't stop, Charlie, one
final point on this. If this doesn't
stop, the Ukrainians aren't winning the
war. I think there's this weird idea
among the mainstream media that if this
thing goes on for just another few
years, the Russians will collapse, the
Ukrainians will take their territory
back, and everything will go back to the
way that it was before the war. That is
not the reality that we live in. If this
thing goes on for another few years, we
could have, you know, societies
collapsing. The demographics of both of
these countries are a nightmare. You
could have millions of more people
killed if this thing goes on for another
few years. and it could risk escalating
into a nuclear war. It has to stop. It
is the policy of this administration
that it stops. And I guarantee you the
president is having all of his people,
including me, work very hard for that
end goal. Out of all the things that you
guys are working on on a day-to-day
basis, this might be one of the highest
of moral significance. that and the
southern border and you are the southern
border is already secured but brokering
peace and making sure we don't get into
a thermonuclear war making sure that
another Ukrainian generation is
uneliminated is incredibly important.
Mr. Vice President, congratulations on a
100 amazing days. Uh may this be a
prelude for more accomplishments to
come. We have your back. Thank you so
much.
Sounds good, Charlie. Thanks, man. You
bet. Talk to you soon.