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Charlie Kirk and Victor Marx Expose the Battle to Protect Children from Trafficking and Abuse
Charlie Kirk sits down with Victor Marx, founder of All Things Possible Ministries, to discuss his two decades of frontline work rescuing trafficked children and survivors of sexual abuse across Iraq, the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and America. Marx shares harrowing stories from ISIS-occupied territories, reveals the spiritual dimensions of child exploitation, and challenges the passivity he sees in American churches and culture. From rescuing an 18-year-old girl held captive by ISIS since age 11, to confronting the grooming agenda in schools, Marx and Kirk examine why evil targets the most vulnerable and what it takes to fight back. This conversation pulls no punches about the responsibility of parents, pastors, and patriots to stand against darkness.
Fighting Human Trafficking on the Front Lines
Victor Marx leads All Things Possible Ministries, an organization dedicated to setting captives free in three distinct ways: physically rescuing those being trafficked or abused by pedophiles both in the United States and overseas including the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and south of the border; helping people process and heal from trauma; and spiritually assisting those held captive in darkness or oppressed by it to find freedom.
Marx's team includes elite operators, with his Chief of Operations being a retired Delta Force commander who spent his last 10 years in the military as a two commander at the unit, completing over a thousand missions without losing a single man. Marx describes him as one of the best hunters he has ever worked with.
The organization has been operating quietly for 20 years, focusing on action rather than publicity. Their work addresses what Marx identifies as the manifestation of darkness: when evil people target children. He draws parallels to the abortion issue, noting that destroying children has been a consistent tactic of evil throughout history.
From Focus on the Family to Global Rescue Operations
Marx's passion for protecting children was shaped during his time working as an assistant to Dr. James Dobson at Focus on the Family. There he found inspiration in an organization fighting for the most innocent people. When he and his wife started their ministry, they were shocked by the scale of child abuse and trafficking occurring both domestically and internationally.
Marx himself is a survivor of childhood abuse. He was tortured and left for dead as a child, which became his primary motivation for helping reach kids and stopping those who harm them. When his four-year-old granddaughter recently asked him why he goes after bad guys, he gave a simple answer: so that bad guys don't do more bad things and so that she feels safe.
Rescuing Children from ISIS-Occupied Iraq
The organization gained widespread recognition several years ago when ISIS invaded Iraq. Marx deployed there with his high-risk non-profit organization, developed a safe house, and partnered with Free Burma Rangers. He would occasionally post live updates on social media, including one memorable instance where he was standing outside filming while ISIS shooting could be heard in the background and mortars were being dropped on their position.
Marx and his team were embedded with the Iraqi Army, but their niche wasn't kicking doors open or direct combat. Their goal was specifically to reach women and children who had been held captive. During a recent deployment, within 48 hours of boots on the ground at their safe house, they received a girl who had been abducted by ISIS seven years earlier when she was 11 years old.
Her parents had been killed, and she had suffered a broken nose and broken back. Now 18 years old, Marx was struck by her beautiful smile. When he asked why she was smiling after everything she had endured, she simply said: "I'm free." Marx sees these outcomes as evidence of God's hand of blessing and favor upon their team as they fight the manifestation of evil.
The Spiritual Dimension of Child Exploitation
Marx emphasizes that when evil truly manifests itself, it targets children. He connects this to recent developments including the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the grooming of children in American classrooms with LGBTQIA+ ideology, outright pedophilia, and the trafficking of children.
While acknowledging the carnality and depravity of man, Marx insists that abusing children exists in a different realm where evil directly inserts itself. He draws historical parallels to Pharaoh wanting to destroy all the boys in Exodus and the ancient practice of sacrificing children to Molech, noting this has been happening since the beginning of human history.
Marx has witnessed this evil at the highest levels across different cultures and ideologies: from ISIS fighters to cartel members to politicians, preachers, and teachers in America. He believes there is an evil that infiltrates men's hearts and minds regardless of their position or background.
He shares a principle he once heard: if you build a child, you won't have to repair an adult. The enemy knows this philosophy works in reverse as well—hurt a child and you'll spend a lifetime trying to repair an adult. Marx argues that the greatest disturbance in American culture and a root cause for broken relationships, drug addiction, and the inability to make good decisions often stems from child abuse.
The Parents Party vs. The Groomers
Kirk raises the political dimension of this issue, discussing the theme of the parents party versus the groomers or perverts party. He points to policies that allow children to chemically castrate themselves, 12-year-olds being told they can change their gender, minors getting abortions without parental consent, and the general loosening of morals that seem to introduce unclean spirits into culture.
Many parents are waking up to realize their children are being targeted in ways beyond the traditional fear of kidnapping at a grocery store, though Marx notes that still happens. He references a recent story from Dallas, Texas, where a young girl was sex-trafficked simply by going to the bathroom at a Mavericks game.
Marx agrees with Kirk's assessment, noting that while perverts, pedophiles, and wicked people exist across all political parties, when you try to legislate evil, that's a strong indicator that a particular group has sided with darkness. These people have yielded themselves and become so convoluted in their thinking that they actually believe it's okay to affect children in ways that would have been unthinkable 30 years ago.
Marx partly blames conservatives, Christians, and even Muslims with conservative positions for being too passive. He criticizes a horrible theology that suggests being more like Jesus means being meek and nice all the time. In reality, Marx argues, meekness is power under control, and nowhere in the Bible does it say to be nice—kind yes, patient yes, but not passively nice.
Confronting Evil in Public Spaces
Marx acknowledges that patience is one fruit of the Spirit he struggles with most, and that his line of work gives him opportunities to both hold his tongue and take action. He urges parents, especially fathers, that anytime a school board or anybody tries to affect their children or family, they as protector and provider have not only a right but a responsibility before God to stand in the gap and say "not here, not now."
He shared a story from 25 years ago when he took his children and family to the library. While there, he noticed a man on a computer looking at pornography in a public place, before porn was widespread. Marx tapped him on the shoulder and asked what he was doing. The man responded that it was none of his business and that he could do what he wanted.
Marx replied, "Well I guess I can too if you want to live by that," then loudly announced to everyone in the library that this pervert was looking at dirty pictures in a public place. Before he could finish, the man shut the computer and scrambled out like a rat while everyone started clapping. Marx thought to himself, "Not on my watch—I'm not going to be passive." He was concerned that a kid could walk by, or a wife, or a female, or someone struggling with those images themselves who wanted to be away from them.
The Problem with Passive Christianity
When asked about leftists who say Christians shouldn't fight but should let the other side do whatever they want, Marx identifies a flaw in the theology of Western Americans that he holds responsible at the feet of the pulpit. He boldly states that so many pastors are cowardly, with spines filled with gel instead of titanium, who justify and use scripture as a way to emphasize meekness, mildness, and turning the other cheek.
Marx points to Jesus himself, who went into the temple, saw His Father's house being trashed and desecrated, and took time to fashion a whip. Marx likes that detail—that Jesus took time to make the whip, probably looking at the people he was going to be smacking with it, thinking about which ringleader would get it first. Then Jesus flipped tables over and called people a brood of vipers.
Marx challenges modern Christians to imagine if someone went into a church function where two people were cheating on their spouses, threw a table over with food flying everywhere, and publicly called them out for destroying lives and the church. People don't believe in that kind of confrontation anymore, yet Marx has been very forthright in advocating for it.
He gives a nod to why pastors don't talk about certain issues, offering a principle: you can't impart that which you don't possess. If pastors aren't living the right life, they won't have the authority to speak on these issues. Marx states, "No purity, no power." They don't want to stand against certain things, and it's not about perfection.
Sin, Conscience, and the Need for Purity
Marx explains his "no purity, no power" principle simply: the Bible talks about sin and maintaining a clear conscience. A person can sin without external consequences—there's private sin, secret sin, and public sin. But the conscience always works against you when you sin. You open a crack for the enemy to come in and hassle you, which is what he does as the accuser of the brethren, the prosecutor, the agitator, and the oppressor.
Marx had recently spent time in a mini-sabbatical listening to all four gospels. One thing that stood out was when they came to arrest Jesus and Peter cut off a soldier's ear. Jesus told Peter to put the sword back in its place or its sheath. Marx notes that Jesus didn't say to melt the sword down and turn it into a fan—He said put it in its place, because there will be a time for it.
Later, Jesus told His disciples that they would be traveling on the open road, and if they didn't have a sword, they should sell their cloak to get one. There would be evil, wicked people who would try to attack them and stop the mission, therefore they would need to use the sword as a form of true self-defense.
Marx reminds listeners of one of Jesus's harshest teachings about the abuse of children: it would be better that a man have a millstone tied around his neck and be thrown into the sea than to harm a child. Having worked in other countries, Marx has seen what they do to offenders of children, from being tied up and beaten in public to being killed.
In America, Marx believes the Christian faith has been hijacked by what can be called woke, passive, or liberal theology. He argues that if anybody should be strong and bold as a lion while also being compassionate and gracious, it should be Christians. Marx is currently working on a book called "The Dangerous Gentleman" that will help people better understand and articulate these principles.
Where to Learn More
Victor Marx's work can be found at victormarks.com through All Things Possible Ministries. Marx also connected Kirk with the breeder who provided Mr. Briggs, Kirk's dog. Marx has his own podcast, the Victor Marx Podcast, where he continues to share stories and insights from his frontline work rescuing children and fighting human trafficking around the world.
Video Transcript
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hello everybody welcome back email us
freedom charlie kirk.com we have a real
treat in store for you the second half
of this hour with me is my friend victor
marks
good to be here brother yeah good
so we're on radio stations across the
country podcasting live stream and all
this so we've done a couple deals
together but why don't you reintroduce
yourself through our audience tell us
about yourself
well it's uh i had an organization that
primarily
the easiest way to say it is we set
captives free
both physically those who are being
trafficked or
abused those who've been affected by
pedophiles both in the u.s overseas
middle east southeast asia south of the
border
and
then we help people with trauma people
who've suffered or been traumatized
all across the board
and the final thing is spiritually we
help people
who are held captive in darkness
or oppressed by darkness get set free
and so talk more about just you do this
in iraq you do this in america and one
of your focuses is to try to
you know hold a head hold pedophiles
accountable to justice and make sure
their victims are made whole again yeah
and i want to put it in context for
people why we do what we do we have an
incredible team
uh our c
o o our chief of operations retired from
delta uh his last 10 years in the
military
was uh as a
two commander at the unit and over a
thousand missions never lost a man
and he's one of the best hunters i've
ever worked with
so
you know
the manifestation of darkness both in
our country and others
is
when people
evil go after children
i mean we're seeing it with the whole
abortion issue this has been a tactic of
what we believe is evil to kill hurt
destroy children
so we have always stood for
you know the sanctity of life
and i got a good injection of that when
i worked for focus on the family
uh with dr james thompson as his
assistant we you know i thought this is
great somebody's fighting
for the most innocent people
then when my wife and i started this
organization
we couldn't believe the number of kids
being abused
are trafficked both here in the u.s and
overseas
we've been doing this now for 20 years
so wow yeah while there's
plenty of organizations and people
really uh out there
talking about it we've been quietly
doing it
in our way for about 20 years now i was
uh getting an iv yesterday at our
friend's place yes piranha which is
great great best iv place on the planet
right there if anyone's ever in phoenix
got to stop by and the lady gave me the
iv she was like i watched victor's
documentary and i just cried myself to
sleep
so tell us a little about them you've
been doing this for a while front lines
yeah you know in pretty let's just say
heavy heavy theaters
yeah you know i think we got best known
several years ago when isis invaded iraq
and
you know we
deployed there as a
high-risk
non-profit organization uh we're a
ministry we developed a safe house we
brought in free burma rangers
and then turned them loose
uh
and that's that's about all you can do
with dave and watch him go another great
organization
but we
we i think people started recognizing
because i would post things i remember
doing a post live i wa you know i wasn't
very good with the whole social media
but i'm like uh hey
this is victor marks um here in iraq and
you can hear shooting behind me and it's
isis and i hear somebody go hey that's
isis i turn around i'm like oh yeah
that's them hey i i've got to go we're
about to hit a village where isis is are
you in the car when this is happening no
i was standing outside of it um
so they were dropping mortars on us
trying to defend their position we were
embedded at the time with the iraqi army
and our niche was you know we're not
there to kick doors open um
you you know shoot people in the face i
think some of that happened
but our goal was to reach women and
children who have been held captive
and most of the girls like we just
we were just there more recently and we
within 48 hours of being back in country
in our safe house
a girl who had been abducted by isis
seven years ago
one of the ones very difficult to get
um
she got free
and we had her in our house 48 hours
after wow we had boots on the ground and
she was 11 when she was abducted her
parents were killed
she's uh now 18.
beautiful girl broke nose
broken back and the biggest smile you
ever seen
and i said why are you smiling she goes
i'm free
so that really
again we feel like god's hand of
blessing and favors upon us with a great
team in order to do
his will this way to fight the
manifestation of evil
and so talk more about kind of what
you said that when evil really manifests
itself it goes after children so we just
saw roe versus wade yeah overturned you
know we see unfortunately a lot of the
grooming of children in america yeah
sexual grooming of children uh in
classrooms with the kind of lgbtqia plus
then we see outright uh
pedophiles and
kind of the sexual exploitation of
children we see the trafficking of
children
what what is it what is the spiritual
component of all of that guys it's hard
to believe that happens naturally right
charlie and i'm so grateful that you you
understand and ask the right questions
because
although there is a carnality of man and
a depravity of man
when you start talking about abusing
children that's a whole different realm
where evil
does insert itself i mean think about
pharaoh
wanting to destroy
all the boys right
uh
it's it's been going on since being
molech this is evil
offering our children what i would say
today
is that
and folks listening or watching
i come from this background i was i was
abused as a child
and um tortured and i was left for dead
so that my motivation is to help reach
kids and stop bad guys
from doing this my my granddaughter
called me yesterday i got a text and my
daughter goes hey you know
she wants to ask you questions so i
called her i was actually going to gun
shop it was really funny i said hey
let's go she's four ish she goes papa
why do you go after bad guys
i thought
well great question and i said
so that bad guys don't do more bad
things
and that you feel safe
so
it the evil that's involved in this is
it's very real and we've seen it at at
the highest levels from isis fighters to
cartel members to
you know in america it doesn't matter
politician preacher teacher
there's an evil that infiltrates men's
hearts and minds
and
i believe this with all my heart the
greatest disturbance of our culture in
america
that is a root cause for so much broken
relationships drug addiction
the inability to make
the best decisions often stem
from child abuse
because if the enemy i heard this
you know if you build a child you won't
have to repair an adult
and the enemy knows that philosophy
hurt a child you'll spend a lifetime
trying to repair an adult one of the
themes we've been playing with
politically is this idea of the parents
party versus the groomers or the
perverts party right because and i don't
overly politicize this but victor it's
hard not to when you have people that
say it's okay for kids to chemically
castrate themselves it's okay if they're
12 years old and they think they're
another gender you know it's okay for
them to get abortion without consent of
their parents or it's all these things
where it's just the loosening of morals
and the immoral type unclean spirits
that seem to almost be
introduced and so a lot of parents feel
as if this is overwhelming that they
they're starting to wake up they realize
my children are being targeted not just
that they might be the old way when i
grew up like oh they might get kidnapped
at the grocery store right which happens
still
there are there i mean in dallas texas
recently young girl was sex trafficked
by just going to the bathroom at a
mavericks game right terrible story but
it's it's deeper than that though isn't
it it's more widespread can you talk
about that well
yes and i agree with you uh while it
doesn't matter again what party left or
right there are perverts and pedophiles
and wicked people all the way around
however i will say this
when you try to legislate evil yes
then that's a pretty darn good indicator
that this group has sided with darkness
and are yielded themselves and they
believe it's okay their minds are so
convoluted they actually believe it's
okay to affect children in a way that
it's over here it's unthinkable i mean
30 years ago
unbelievable
nobody would have thought this stuff
would have been happening never
so i i blame part of it
on
uh conservative and even christians and
muslims who have conservative
positions for being passive yeah i
totally agree you have to be there's
this horrible theology that to be more
like jesus you just be
meek
and and nice the reality is meekness is
power under control and i don't see
anywhere in the bible it says be nice
kind yes
patient yes yeah right oh the fruit of
the spirit i struggle with patience i
tell people it's the one i struggle with
most yeah
i i i do too
and i'm very you know i have to learn
how to just
say do you know do i need to hold my
tongue on this or throttle somebody
around the neck
but
and in that line of work
you get the opportunity to do both so i
would say this
for sure
please parents
dads
anytime a school board
or anybody is trying to affect your
children or your family you as a
protector and provider have not only a
right or you have a responsibility for
god to stand in the gap and say not here
not now i remember years ago 25 years
ago i took my children and family to the
library while we're in there there's a
guy on a computer looking at porn
and i couldn't believe it in a public
place
and this was before porn was really
wow yeah i just walked over there and
tapped him on his shoulder i said what
are you doing man
he goes none of your business who is
this again this is just a guy at a
public library looking at porn
on one of the public library computers
where you could go and whatever i just
said hey man
you need to you need to take this stuff
home don't do it here he goes none of
your business i can do what i want
i said well i guess i can too
if you want to live by that and i said
hey everybody attention
this pervert right here is looking at
dirty nudie pictures in a public place
and he says he before i could finish he
shut the computer he scrambles out like
a little rat everybody starts clapping
and i thought not now my watch man i'm
i'm not going to be passive i'm going to
point out because a kid could be walking
by
a wife a female someone who's struggling
with that themselves that wants to you
know be away from those images yes yeah
so
that was you know 20 years plus ago i
just tell people be be aggressive for
the right reason so i want to ask you in
the next segment here some people will
say for example you know when i get into
a debate with a leftist or when i get a
little heated about an issue they'll say
charlie you shouldn't fight that's not
christ-like you should just let the
other side do whatever they want to do
and let it be is that true well i think
there's a flaw
in the theology of western
americans
that i hold responsible at the feet of
the pulpit
because so many pastors because if we're
just being honest so many of them
i'm gonna say it
are cowardly their their their spines
are filled with gel
instead of titanium so they justify and
use scripture as a way to say meek mild
turn the other cheek
and here's what i would say let's talk
about jesus is he not the one that went
into the temple
saw his father's house being trashed
desecrated oh yes and then he took time
to fashion a whip i always liked that he
took time i think he was just looking at
the people he was going to be smacking
with it going oh yeah you're the ring
leader you're going to get this one and
then he jumped tables off over can you
imagine
at any church function
if if you know sally joe and billy bob
are cheating on their spouses but
they're sitting next to each other at
this
church function
and i just went in there and just threw
a table over and you know food goes
everywhere yeah brood of vipers yeah
right and i just go both of you better
repent
because you're destroying lives you're
going to destroy this church this is 11.
man
people don't believe in that anymore and
although that's that would be an extreme
case i i have been very forthright and
saying
come on people
you know we give a nod and again i think
part of it is it's it's why pastors
don't talk about certain issues because
you can't impart that which you don't
possess and if they're not living the
right life i say no purity no power they
don't want to stand against certain
things and it's not about perfection
that's interesting yeah so what do you
mean by that no purity no power and then
tell me about the perfection yeah well
it's it's simple
the bible talks about
sin that you want a clear conscience
i mean a man can sin a woman can sin
without consequences on the outside
right yeah there's secret privacy in
public sin there's three types of sin
right
but all but your conscience
always will work against you you open a
crack for the enemy come in and just
hassle that's what he does he is the
he's the agitator the prosecutor yeah
that's what it literally means in hebrew
accuser of the brethren the oppressor
and uh this causes problems uh so i i
believe that the christian
even just yesterday i was
in the gospels
i listened to all four gospels you know
i'm over here just taking them
just trying to spend on time mini
sabbatical yeah and and i love
listening to the gospel so listed all
four and one thing that stood out was
when they came to arrest jesus
and it was peter that lops off an ear
and jesus said put the sword back in its
place or its sheath
he didn't say
you know melt that thing down and turn
it into you know a fan
uh
you know he's saying put in his place
because there will be a time there will
be a time and later he told his
disciples hey y'all are going to be
traveling on the open road if you don't
have a sword sell your cloak y'all need
to get one because there will be
evil wicked people that will try to
attack you and stop the mission
therefore you will need to use that as a
form of true self-defense and one of
jesus's harshest teachings was about the
abuse of children oh my
no people don't want to remember that
one
it's better that a man
have a millstone tied around his neck
and throw now listen because i've worked
in other countries i've seen what they
do
to offenders of children from being tied
up and beaten in public
to
all the way to being killed uh
and
in america i again i think the the
christian faith has been hijacked by
whether you want to call it woke or
passive or liberal it's like hey you
know if anybody should be
strong bold as a lion
but yet compassionate and gracious
i we're right now i'm in the middle of
working on a book called the dangerous
gentleman
and that really will be able to help
people understand and articulate a lot
of this yeah yeah it's beautiful we're
at a time victormarks.com that is
victormarks.com you have all things
possible ministries yes and also victor
was the one that connected me with the
bad and canine that got us mr briggs our
dog and you got your beautiful dog right
there so it almost might be in the live
stream shot that's just great you guys
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