Charlie Kirk Challenges Birthright Citizenship: Settlers Built America, Not Immigrants

[00:00] You posted on X two months ago that the

[00:02] Supreme Court has never reviewed the

[00:03] 14th Amendment regarding birthright

[00:04] citizenship.

[00:05] >> Not correctly, yeah.

[00:06] >> Have you heard of Wong vs. Kim Ark or

[00:08] Wong vs. America?

[00:10] >> What about Plyler

[00:10] >> I'm drawing from a lot of memory on

[00:12] this, so I'm going to have to plead a

[00:13] little bit of memory

[00:14] >> That's fine. I I have I have a

[00:15] a shallow understanding, but both of

[00:18] those cases ruled that regardless of

[00:19] national origin, the children of

[00:20] immigrants will become US citizens.

[00:23] It is

[00:23] >> Not just the children of immigrants that

[00:25] the it's not just that. It's It's the

[00:26] It's the exact The exception for

[00:27] diplomats, the children of visitors

[00:29] become US citizens.

[00:31] >> Right. And

[00:31] >> So for example,

[00:33] for example, a pregnant woman can leave

[00:35] China who's 8 months pregnant, get a

[00:37] 90-day visitor visa, and then her baby

[00:40] becomes a US citizen.

[00:42] >> How is it being implemented now? If you

[00:43] come here illegally If you come here

[00:44] illegally, your children are what?

[00:46] What are they?

[00:46] >> They become US citizens.

[00:47] >> And that's the Supreme Court precedent.

[00:49] So the executive order to overturn it is

[00:51] illegal.

[00:51] >> No, it's very much legal. It's

[00:53] challenging the prior Supreme Court

[00:54] decision. But let's go back to my my

[00:57] example. You can fly to China and

[00:59] literally just come here as a visitor,

[01:00] show up at a hospital, and you know,

[01:02] they will give you a US passport, and

[01:03] your kid becomes a US citizen. You

[01:05] understand we are one of the only

[01:06] countries in the industrialized world

[01:08] that has birthright citizenship.

[01:09] >> proud to be that. We are a country of

[01:11] immigrants. See, we

[01:12] >> No, we're not. No, no, no. We're a

[01:13] country of settlers, not of immigrants.

[01:15] That's a big distinction. Let me tell

[01:16] you the difference. Settlers are people

[01:19] that build a new country that was

[01:20] barren. Immigrants come to a country

[01:22] already built. The people who built this

[01:24] country, they went west to an

[01:26] unconquered, barren country and built a

[01:29] new society. Immigrants helped enrich

[01:31] it. They helped grow it upon that, but

[01:33] the foundation of America were settlers,

[01:36] not immigrants. That is a that is a

[01:37] talking point that is overused by the

[01:39] left.

[01:39] >> religion, no unifying race, no unifying,

[01:42] you know, national origin. We But what

[01:44] we do share is that if you were born on

[01:45] this soil, you have an inherent

[01:47] birthright to the benefits of American

[01:49] citizenship. And when you

[01:50] >> And that's a huge mistake.

[01:51] >> And that's a huge mistake. So you

[01:52] disagree with 200 years of precedent.

[01:54] >> Yes.

[01:54] >> Have you read what was discussed during

[01:56] the passage of the 14th Amendment?

[01:57] >> never wanted all of a sudden a pregnant

[01:59] woman to be able to get on They didn't

[02:00] have airplanes back then. Go across the

[02:02] ocean and all of a sudden they become a

[02:03] US citizen.

[02:04] >> Those who drafted the 14th Amendment

[02:05] did.

[02:05] >> Yeah, the 14th Amendment was in what

[02:07] year?

[02:07] >> 1866.

[02:08] >> Yeah, exactly. Way past the founding

[02:09] era. So, you don't agree with the 14th

[02:12] Amendment was largely applicable to free

[02:13] slaves.

[02:14] >> was a purpose, but it was it has also

[02:16] been extended to those who come here.

[02:17] >> Exactly. No, you're right. It has been

[02:19] wrongly extended. You know in the 14th

[02:20] Amendment

[02:21] >> Court.

[02:21] >> Exactly. And they got it wrong. Just

[02:23] like the how they got Roe vs. Wade wrong

[02:24] and we got that repealed. The point

[02:26] being is the Supreme Court can get

[02:27] things wrong. The idea It's very simple.

[02:29] It's that if you think you can just get

[02:31] on a Delta Airlines flight from Paris

[02:34] and all of a sudden your kid becomes US

[02:36] citizen, that devalues the meaning of

[02:38] what it is to be a citizen.

[02:40] >> Should we hold the children who do not

[02:42] choose to come here accountable for

[02:44] their parents' actions? There are some

[02:45] countries that

[02:46] >> Well, if you're already a citizen,

[02:47] you're a citizen. We're not going to

[02:48] revoke it or anything.

[02:49] >> if it becomes overturned, do we want to

[02:50] create a like second-class citizens who

[02:52] aren't citizens of another country?

[02:53] >> Yes, they're they're citizens of another

[02:55] country. Go back to your own country.

[02:56] >> Except if they come from India, they

[02:57] come here and a child is born. That

[02:58] citizen that child is not a citizen of

[03:00] India. Nor would they be a citizen of

[03:02] here. Then you have like

[03:03] >> No, no, they are a citizen of India.

[03:04] That's not true. Yes, they are. The

[03:06] parents are Indian citizens and that's

[03:07] how it works in India. Is that the

[03:08] citizenship goes to the parents.

[03:11] So, that that's the point is that they

[03:12] can go back to their own country and

[03:14] they can go

[03:15] live in India.

[03:16] >> So, the So, the children should be

[03:17] deported as soon as they're born here.

[03:18] >> Yes, with their parents, absolutely.

[03:20] >> You don't think that we should give them

[03:22] they should we shouldn't encourage them

[03:23] become productive members of American

[03:24] society?

[03:25] >> No.

[03:25] >> Do you believe in the American dream?

[03:27] >> Yes, of course, for American citizens,

[03:29] not for every person around the planet.

[03:30] >> agree. I think we all agree.

[03:32] >> Yes, it's not our job to open up our

[03:34] borders to every sad story around the

[03:36] planet.

[03:37] >> Exactly. The adults, but the children

[03:38] who were The children did not choose to

[03:39] cross the border. They did not choose to

[03:41] come here. They have been placed here.

[03:42] >> Exactly. So, don't punish them by

[03:44] separating them mom and dad. They can

[03:45] all go back to their country of origin.

[03:47] It's very simple.

[03:48] >> But that's not the law. That's It's how

[03:50] it's been. Do you think that would be

[03:51] productive law of American society?

[03:53] >> That's the interpretation of the 14th

[03:54] Amendment. We're talking about two

[03:55] different things. We're talking about

[03:56] birthright citizenship and then we're

[03:57] talking about kids that are crossed when

[03:58] they're already born. The point being is

[04:00] this, it goes back to this very basic

[04:02] question. What does it mean to be a

[04:03] citizen? And we're throwing around

[04:04] citizenship like frisbees everyday.

[04:06] You're a citizen, you're a citizen,

[04:07] you're a citizen. And it dilutes the

[04:08] meaning of the citizen, of what it means

[04:10] to be a US citizen. We need to bring it

[04:12] back to actually say, "Hey, you have to

[04:13] earn your citizenship. You are not given

[04:16] your citizenship."

[04:17] >> the children who A child doesn't A child

[04:19] doesn't choose to be born between

[04:21] somebody who comes here illegally and

[04:22] somebody who is already a citizen. That

[04:23] person did not choose that. There's no

[04:24] accountability in that action.

[04:26] >> Namibia that didn't, you you know,

[04:27] choose to be born in

[04:29] >> Exactly. But that's the great thing

[04:30] about America is that by being here you

[04:32] offer them the extension for the

[04:33] opportunity to become a citizen.

[04:34] >> think that I I think on the surface it's

[04:36] a great thing about America. I think

[04:38] it's us having generosity being turned

[04:40] into compromising our values used

[04:43] against us. At time generosity can turn

[04:46] into an overindulgence. You could become

[04:49] too generous where you are borrowing

[04:51] money that you don't have. We're doing

[04:52] that. We are giving citizenship where it

[04:54] dilutes. Yes, we are a generous nation

[04:56] and our virtues have become our vices.

[04:58] >> What does it dilute? What What does a

[05:00] child being born here having birthright

[05:01] citizenship What does that take away

[05:02] from us?

[05:03] >> It it First of all, number

[05:06] First of all, number one, it dilutes a

[05:07] lot.

[05:08] >> What does it dilute?

[05:09] >> Uh Can I Can I get to it? Dilutes a lot.

[05:11] Number one, it dilutes legal immigrants

[05:12] that are full adults that had to apply

[05:14] to come here.

[05:14] >> So we should stop illegal immigration.

[05:16] But they're all illegal.

[05:17] >> legal legal immigration, right? Number

[05:19] two is that I actually want the idea of

[05:22] being a US citizen that you are here or

[05:24] born here because your parents did

[05:26] something to allow you to be here. Not

[05:29] just that you got on a non-stop flight

[05:31] from Seoul, South Korea and you happen

[05:32] to fall and your water breaks and you're

[05:34] suddenly a US citizen. It devalues the

[05:36] entire meaning of what it means.

[05:38] Everybody here has a unique story of

[05:39] what your parents did for allow you to

[05:41] live in this country. That's called a

[05:42] social compact. Some of you guys, your

[05:44] parents came here and your ancestors

[05:46] came here in the 1700s. Some of them

[05:47] came here in the early 1900s. But if all

[05:49] of a sudden, you can gain entry and cut

[05:51] in line, it dilutes the sacrifices

[05:53] primarily of the greatest generation

[05:55] from World War that allowed us to live

[05:58] here, and it is an insult to them to say

[06:00] that we can live in a free society.