All right, guys. On the day that we're recording this, uh, September 11th, 2025, Charlie Kirk was slated to speak at the Caris Bible College in Colorado, um, at the Truth and Liberty Conference. But we all know what happened yesterday, so he will not be speaking, but we do have some really amazing conversations and talks that Charlie Kirk has given. And following this uh video, you'll be able to watch one of the amazing speeches that he has done. It was done uh last year um I think it was in October right before the presidential election um during the campaign. And uh and this conversation and talk is one of the most amazing ones that I've ever heard Charlie Kirk give. So I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Yeah, great. I'm sorry we didn't give you an introduction. We thought there was going to be a video that that is okay. This is So this is Charlie Kirk. [Music] Awesome. Well, Charlie, we've heard Lucas mentioned uh this new study that's out from George Bara showing that 51% of evangelical Christians aren't planning to vote in this election. I was just wondering if you could comment on that and share do do you have any thoughts about what's causing that level of apathy? Number one, number two, what can we do to change it in the little time we have left? Yeah. Well, first honor to be here everybody and um Andrew, you do such a great job and he should be applauded for the great work he does. I'll tell you it's it's it's really really horrible. Um so so why am I in Colorado with 18 days to go? You know, I'm in crisscross in the state of Arizona. We're chasing ballots, by the way. We are beating the Democrats in early voting in Arizona and and we're beating them badly, by the way. It's really great. We were down 18 points at this time in 2020. We are up 12 points right now at the same time. So we're really seeing a big change there. But I this really uh came to be with a meeting I had with Lucas who are just we're so honored that he's leading TPSA faith and he's doing a wonderful job where I I said Lucas we have to wake up the church. I am seeing warning signs. I said where out west you know cuz geographically and positionally I need to stay near Arizona cuz that's really my passion right now and my home. Can I go and address a big audience where hopefully you could be heard um you know on Christian television? And he said, "Well, how about Andrew's place?" I said, "He'll have me. I'll be there." And so that's really what came there. And it this was because of the Bara study and because of what I've been seeing. And again, we we have the largest get out the vote turnout operation in the country with one goal to get Donald Trump back in the White House to save the country. Right. That that is our goal. And and we we can spend a lot of time at a future date, Andrew, you know, diving into why he's the best candidate. All that. I will talk about that from a Christian perspective. I think it's rather self-evident of exactly the stakes and what's going on. But what is so perplexing to me is that now this is my third or fourth major presidential cycle and I've seen kind of the baseline of what we can expect out of church engagement. why the church cares so little about the country at this particular juncture. And I can tell you George Bara's data is correct because we see this from other pastor summits that were done by other organizations where people are going up saying there is no good ca godly candidate here. Sit this one out where we are hearing I'm on these text message threads of some pastors that are saying we are not going to tell our congregation to speak out whatsoever. And here I am just kind of as the idol observer doing everything I can to hold myself back. And I I wanted tonight to be an opportunity to speak clearly to the church, to the Christian community here to not just encourage, but challenge, motivate, but also get off your tails and do something in this election right now. Because I it is the missing ingredient. And so let me be as blunt as possible. If Kla Harris wins, it will be because the church handed her the presidency. It is the only missing ingredient that we see right now. I do go TV for a living. Guess what? Young people are coming our way in a historic way. Young men are the most conservative they've been in 50 years. So, so you you can't say, "Oh, it's all a bunch of those college kids at Boulder." Heidi will tell you, "I was at Boulder a couple weeks ago. We had thousands of kids show up. So, it's not their fault. Guess who else is rising up? The muscular class, the working class of this country, the truck drivers, the plumbers, electricians, the welders, the police officers. So, you can't blame them. We have moms that go to schoolboard meetings that are rising up in huge numbers. So, you can't blame them. What I'm getting at is the missing ingredient is what we've always taken for granted is that the church actually cared about the nation. And I cannot say this and I am not exaggerating it. George Barno, who is the gold standard of polling. This guy is not just some random person that they've selected, has said that we are on pace for a 13% decrease of Christian turnout. He has pulled thousands of pastors, the vast majority of which will not even speak about this election. And this is a five alarm fire in the clearest terms. So why is this happening? There are three reasons. The first of which is that there is this spirit of pomposity and self-righteousness that some pastors have decided to invoke where they will say, "I am a Christian and I'm a believer in Jesus. Donald Trump is a sinner and I can't vote for a sinner." Now, for any of you that have opened your Bible, you know how outrageous this is. We are all sinners that fall short of the glory of God and we need Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. Amen. And I apologize. I'm giving a longer answer, but this is I I do talk for a living. And my we're low on time. We got a country to save here, people. And secondly, when they'll also say, and I want to lean right into this, they'll say, "But Donald Trump is is not pro-life how I'd like him to be." Now, I'm 100% pro-life to the place where I I will speak at pro-life pregnancy centers across the country. I donate to them. I raise money for them. I go into hostile liberal college environments and make an absolutist and an abolitionist argument when it comes to abortion. You will not find someone that has the battle scars of the pro-life movement like I do. And yet I look at Trump's record outside of the rhetoric cuz talk is cheap and I say, "Wait a second. We have 10 states that have abolished abortion. Do you know that? We have Texas, Oklahoma, the Dakotas. That is only possible thanks to Donald J. Trump. George W. Bush didn't give that to you. Ronald Reagan didn't that give that to you. Nuke Gingrich didn't give that to you. God bless him. It was Donald J. Trump that gave you Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, and Brett Kavanaaugh the most prolife victories we've ever seen in history. And and and let's even zero in on the rhetoric. When Donald Trump is asked, he defends the reversal of Row versus Wade. He'll say this is what legal scholars wanted in it. Sending it back to the states. So, we have 10 states that have abolished abortion completely. You know, that was a dream I was told that would never happen by some of the more cynical voices. Am I right, Andrew? In that way, people said, "Oh, that's never going to happen." And yet, it took a billionaire from New York who wouldn't always necessarily go to church and live the colorful life, not part of that spirit of pomposity and self-righteousness and sanctimonious garbage we see in our church too often, to get in the arena to fight for babies and save their lives. And so, But they say, "Oh, Charlie, you know, his rhetoric, again, talk is cheap. He showed the type of justices he'll put up." He has also been morally clear against the horrors of late term abortion. But again, let's just talk about the reality here. You're trying to tell me you can stay silent cuz silence is consent. Silence is consent. When slavery was happening, oh, you know, I said nothing. Consent. When the gulags were happening in the Soviet Union, silence consent. Oshvitz, silence, consent. Oh, I'm going to be silent and not vote for Kla Harris uh because I'm I'm more godly than that person. You are co-signing therefore on a Democrat party that has abortion clinics outside of their national convention. I saw it with my own eyes. When I went to the DNC in Chicago, which by the way, one of my greatest accomplishments ever, breaking into the DNC and getting on the floor of the DNC, it's amazing. They truly are the party of open borders. It's really amazing. No restrictions. I got right down there. Eventually they did deport me, but that's a separate issue. So I saw with my own eyes abortion clinics of women holding babies in their in utero and they walked out without the baby. That's what the DNC in their official sponsored encouraged programming had at their national convention. Joe Biden and Kla Harris turned Easter into the transgender day of awareness. Remember that? That's right. And so I'm I can go and we're going to go really deep in the policy here, but just on that one sticking issue that I hear from pastors. He's not as pro-life as I would like to be. And I always say, "Did you vote for George W. Bush?" Oh, yeah. And he's a great Christian. Really? A great Christian whose wife was pro-choice and he never ever spoke at the March for Life and never gave us pro-life justices. So there's something else here, man. And what exactly is it? Let me tell you, you are too high on your own supply of Christian doctrine. and you don't like the fact that Donald Trump is not quoting Bible verses all the time, even the fact he's delivering victories for us Christians all the time. So maybe you should humble yourself before the Lord and realize he's being used as a vessel for God's purposes here in this country. Awesome, [Applause] man. I don't have much to add to that. Where do you think we stand as far as the election goes? I know we're in a battle, but where do you think we are? Let me tell you the the positive and then the challenging is that the early voter turnout is amazing right now. I mean in Georgia and North Carolina where the terrible hurricane hit despite the fact that people do not have internet they don't have power electricity the colder weather is coming in some people's are home homes are destroyed the highest ever turnout they've seen in western North Carolina despite all of that the Lord they they they are literally crawling over debris to go vote in this election in Arizona we're beating them in early voting we crushed them in voter registration but there this is not the time to celebrate we are up against a beast a machine that will do anything to hold on to power. And so that's why I'm here because I'm looking at I'm saying, "Huh, this thing's going to be close." And we're playing without our our our anchor. We are playing like cut flowers right now. What happens when you cut flowers and you put them in a you lose your foundation, those flowers die. And cut flowers is what's happening in the country. You cut out flowers from the church, which is the foundation, they're going to wither. And so I think our chances are 50/50 right now. But it wouldn't be 50/50 if the church spoke up. Amen. I'm telling you, if 31 evangelical 31 million evangelicals are planning to stay at home and it's easy to blame them, but who deserves the condemnation and the challenging is the trembling pastors that shake like a leaf if you dare say anything that might make people offended. Let's remind each other what church is. Church is not a place where you go to be affirmed. Church is a place where you go to be saved and corrected. It is not a place to be told about how your lifestyle is the greatest thing ever. You go there to be reminded that you need a savior and that your life is currently in error. But people don't like that. They say, "Well, that's not very nice if I tell the people that come to church in that way." Well, hold on a second. What exactly are you running here? Is it a church which is about correction and elevating the divine? Or is it a place where a TED talk occurs with organized parking, above average coffee and a mo motivational speech and good music with nice lights? What exactly are you running there? You see a church in its proper context as Andrew has done a great job throughout his career and what a great example by the way for other pastors to follow. A church should be unafraid to go against the culture and not conform to the world but preach the word. The church. Amen. Amen. The church must lead culture. And allow me to say one other thing on the abortion. Politicians are reading the script of which we provide them. Don't hold Donald Trump to a higher standard than you hold your pastor to. If I have to hear from another p another Christian, well, you know, Donald Trump's not as pro-life as me. I say, well, has your pastor spoke out regularly against the slaughter of the unborn? Well, no. No. My pastor doesn't do politics. Oh, so you want Donald Trump to speak out on holy matters when the person you tithe and offer to that you call your home church won't even whisper about it. Got it. That's good. Well, I think you dealt with the abortion issue and Donald Trump very well. But it there's so there's so many other issues, Andrew, if I may. Sure. Well, I was just going to ask another thing that I've heard people comment on is, well, they think that the 2020 election was stolen and that the vote is rigged and so they just lose heart. What difference does it? As a Christian, you I I believe that cynicism and despair is a sin. And we know this in the book of Numbers, which is called in the wilderness. God despised when the people of Israel in the wilderness were desparing. When they were complaining all the time, there is no hope. First of all, as Christians, we have to reject this fleshly idea from the demonic that our action doesn't mean anything. All of our actions should glorify God. All everything we do should point up. Amen. From what we eat to who we marry to how we raise our kids to where we go to church to how we how we educate our young people. And so, but let's talk about 2020. Despite all the shenanigans, everybody, we fell 41,000 ballots short in Arizona, in Wisconsin, and Georgia. And guess what? There were millions of people who did not vote because they believed that it would not occur. And the easiest way to make sure that your vote won't be counted is not vote. That's right. So that's why we have teamed up to make sure that people practice the most secure voting methods possible. Instead of putting your mail and ballot in the mail, walk it right down to that county recorder's office. If you guys want to vote in person, then go vote in person. There are secure ways to do it. But people say, "But Charlie, it's not 100% secure." But that that is such a sloppy argument because I can 100% guarantee the Democrats will take over the country if none of us vote. That's right. And so the that that that kind of negativity and that cycle of cynicism is something that we as Christians are forbidden from engaging in. I agree. And uh David Barton also made a point that there are hundreds and hundreds of cities that have tightened the uh voter right thing. So we are making improvement in that area. Let me ask you about um the economy because I think everybody recognizes that inflation's way up and everything. And I remember Kla Harris when she was asked about the economy said that she inherited the worst economy in decades from Trump, which in my estimation is a bold-faced lie. How do you respond to that? I mean, of course it is. And so let let's look at something that we as Christians should care about. Private property is a Christian virtue, meaning the ability to own property. The first ever real estate transaction, do you know this, Andrew? I'm not going to quiz Andrew on the Bible. He'll know it. was Abra Abraham buying the plot of land to bury his wife and himself in Hebrron. It's the first ever real estate deal in the Bible. The idea of ownership of land is a biblical idea. A workman is worth his wages. We should want more Americans, especially young people, to be able to own property, not have to rent for the rest of their life. It is good for everybody. Amen. It builds equity. It rejects cynicism. It makes you more invested in your community. It makes you more likely to develop a family. We are becoming a nation of renters. When Donald Trump was president, you could buy a home earning $75,000 a year of combined family income. Now it requires $130,000 a year and it's near $150,000 a year in the Denver metro area. It is nearly doubled in the last four years. And why is that? It's because Kla Harris decided to pump our our the economy with $6 trillion of unnecessary government spending, which then increases asset prices. Simple supply and demand. This is why sand is cheap and diamonds are expensive. When you have more of something, it becomes worth less. When you have less of something, it becomes worth more. And additionally, which again is an issue I really want to emphasize here, when you have 10 million new people come into your country and those people need a place to live, it will raise the asset price as well. So Kla Harris has allowed the largest invasion in American history to occur in a short period of time when people come in. You guys see it in Aurora, Colorado of Tren de Raga taking over apartment complexes that we are currently subsidizing. And allow me speak to speak about this from a Christian perspective because I don't hear this often from pastors but um not well educated and wokey pastors if I may will will fall for this immigration nonsense. And you'll see this by the way with these just repulsive he gets us advertisements that they run during the football games. It's bad theology. It's it's it's it's bad at its core. Well, they'll say, "But Charlie, Jesus wanted open borders." Now the first of all there is no theological basis whatsoever. What Jesus and the scriptures call for is to love the sojourer to love the foreigner. However, borders is an explicitly biblical idea. In fact, I know Donald Trump's favorite book of the Bible. Do you know this? It's the book of Nehemiah cuz all about building the wall. The entire book. Awesome. It's literally about building the wall of Israel. So um the idea of sovereignty of nations and let's remember God told us and showed us that he rebukes a one world government. The idea of sovereignty and borders came out of Genesis 11 when Nimrod wanted to build the city of Babel of a oneness of the world to build a city upon himself. And God scattered the people in all different lands and nations and different languages because God wanted smaller micro communities of governance, not the World Economic Forum, which of course is what Kla is pushing us towards. But let's get let's get to the inexcusable facts that every pastor in America should be speaking about. If I asked you a hypothetical, would a pastor be an error if he did not speak against slavery in this country? Say, of course. Would a pastor be an error if a pastor not speak about how kids are being sold into sex slavery? Well, news flash, there are more people being sold in slavery in this country right now on the southern border than any time in the last couple hundred years. And the church is silent. There are 320,000 kids that we know of that have gone missing, many of whom are now teenage prostitutes. and sex slaves for the cartel in the interior of the United States. But the church is silent. You see, Kla Harris did this with a direct action when she decided to get rid of DNA testing on the border. Quickly, here's how it works. You show up on the border as a 13-year-old girl. By the way, you're raped an average of three times in that voyage to get to the border. You are you are currently being used as a sex toy by the cartels all the way up till there. The typical mode of operation under Donald Trump was something called DNA testing. Thanks to modern technological breakthrough, you do swabs, saliva swabs of each individual. You put it in and in 90 seconds, you can have an affirmative or a negative DNA match. So, is the person with the minor actually the relative or is it somebody else? Super simple, easy to use. Take 90 seconds. You you don't have to send it out to Abbott Laboratories. 90 seconds. One of the first actions that Kla Harris took with Joe Biden was to get rid of DNA testing. So, here's how it works. They show up on the border. trembling 13-year-old girl who obvious, you know, was just raped a couple times. You could tell her head is down. I've seen it myself. You can go to human to see it. Is looking down and a muscular 35-year-old pimp says, "I'm her dad." And there is no DNA testing that occurs. So instead, they just say, "Sign on the paperwork. Here's your asylum date. It's in 3 years." Of course, it never comes. And the girl is now a sex slave in the United States. Under Trump, we do a DNA test. Be like, "You're lying. That's not correct. We're going to find out who her parents actually are because we're not going to cosign to her becoming the worst thing that we could possibly tolerate. However, the church is uninterested in this. Exactly. Pastors are too interested in bigger buildings and more budgets and not in the fact that kids, God's children, are being sold as sex slaves in our own country. This is not happening in Afghanistan. This is not happening in some faroff distant land. This is on our turf. This is in our own nation. And I can't make the moral argument more clear than that. If there's just one issue, just vote to end modern-day slavery. That that's it. But I just get at this is that many of these pastors either don't know this or they don't know the stakes of this. I know we're over time or whatever, but it it's it's very I cannot drive this point home enough, which is that don't judge the world for their failure. If the church is silent, we will behold to a higher account. It will go down. This will go down to a similar but not the same. It's in the ballpark of the church's failing during Nazi Germany. We will be judged for this. That's right. That's right. Awesome. Uh Charlie, just we we want to go to some Q&A time, but I just want to ask one more question here if we can, which is everybody that's here and everybody that's watching online, what can we do to increase voter turnout among fellow Christians? Yeah, it it starts at the top. Look, we we're short on time right now. We're 18 days out, but for those of you guys that are in good churches, find your you have to ask the questions of the people in your church. For example, if you have a small group, if you have community groups, you have text threads, go through your list and make sure all 20 are voting. Make sure all 30 are voting. Do that GOTV list. And again, the way I look at it is that we have marriage ministries, we have prison recovery ministries, we have drug rehabilitation ministries, we have ministries for everything. Why don't we have a ministry to make sure that every person that shows up at the church is voting? Period. End of story. It's a very simple ask, right? We are called to be salt and light. What do salt and light have in common? They change the environment that they come in contact with. Christians are currently not changing the the the environment of America at all. So, that's a very simple way. But more importantly is this, and this might be a little harsh for you. I don't care. You invited Charlie Kirk to this place. I mean, come on. All right. Which is this. Listen. If you go to a church and you might say, "Well, that guy gave a nice sermon and it's just so nice and it's just so warm and I always, you know, leave feeling so good and they have good Easter service and Christmas service on my friends and they're silent on this." If your pastor remains silent after multiple loving but direct and truthful confrontations, you need to cut it off and say, "I'm going to find another church." You have to stop supporting those churches because you are then a co-sponsor in the thing that you guys are all agreeing with. You guys are then subsidizing and co-sponsoring the silence on the sex slavery on the border. It's easy to point fingers, but if you guys are putting a hundred bucks a week into a church that remains silent, then you guys are signing off on the silence and evil. So, stop doing that and leave those churches. Amen. Very good. All right. All right. Well, I think we're ready to do some Q&A with the audience. Um, do we have we have ushers that have microphones and mic stands and uh so they're going to get those in position there. And and I I want this will be available, I know, online. Please text this to your pastors, your friends. Let's make this conversation go viral. Great guys. I I I want I want the the church to hear what we have to say tonight. Okay. Yeah. All right. So, uh if you have a question for Charlie, just come on up and get in line. the ushers there at the end of the aisle and looks like we've got some folks coming forward here, Charlie. So, does TPUSA have any volunteer opportunities for people to help with this get out the vote campaign? Yeah, espec we we we look to expand to Colorado in a future date. Um we we we are proving the model of ballot chasing, voter registration in Arizona and a little bit in Wisconsin, other states, but really all in in Arizona. Um I I I really look you guys know this. I'm not telling you anything you know. Heidi knows if anybody else they perfected the blueprint here in Colorado and they're trying to bring it to Arizona. So I have to kind of quell their invasion temporarily. Then we can come back and do a rescue mission here in state. I did talk to someone in the know just so you know yesterday who said that the uh early returns on the mailin ballots here. The Republicans are outpacing their performance in 2020 and the Dems are underperforming based on 2020. So praise God. Praise God. All right. Do we have anyone that has a question? Okay. Can you Okay. Gosh, I'm privileged to be first. And um I had a question, but you actually answered it with your opening statement. It was, "Why are you in Colorado? because you have so many boots on the ground in the swing states. So since you already asked it, can I pray for you? So father, I just lift up Charlie Kirk to you right now in Jesus' name. I thank you Lord that he seeks you, he finds you and he follows you. I thank you Lord that you have created him with a boldness that he steps into willingly. And Lord, I just thank you that because he binds kindness and truth around his neck and writes it on the tablet of his heart that he has favor and good standing with you and with man. And I thank you, Lord, that you surround him with a hedge of protection and that everything that you want for this country is coming to fruition in Jesus' name. Amen. Thank Thank you so much. God bless you. Thank you. Awesome. Oh, can you lower it? Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Hi. I'm such a big supporter. I went to all your Turning Point conventions over the summer. Volunteered for you in Boulder. Bought all your books. Listen to your podcast. Write postcards to swing voters with turning point. Is that it? Come on. We got We got more stuff. take the Hillsdale online college courses and I sent a message to my pastor about why Camala Harris shouldn't be president that you said in your podcast the other day. Anyways, huge fan. Um, I'm a part of the Young Republicans in Colorado. We've been working hard to flip blue. We've been working hard to flip blue state legislative seats to red. Yes. It's so amazing to see so many people here and you getting a standing ovation. And I'll go up to people with MAGA hats or these Bible college students and they're like, "Wow, like it's so cool you're so passionate about politics." And I'm like, "Yeah, thank thanks. You should come door knock with us." And they're like, "Yeah, no, like I'm not doing that." Um, and they're always they there's always an excuse of why they're busy. And a part of me is mad. Like we saw this in Germany when millions of Jews were slaughtered because the church did nothing. Um, if there I truly believe if there's a will, there's a way. I'm tired of the talk. I want action. My question is, how as a 19-year-old Christian girl do I motivate people to actually fight for this country by chasing ballots ballots testifying at the capital or signing postcards or doornocking? What a great quiv it up for. What's your name again? Gabriella. I want to meet her afterwards. I want to meet her. That's great. Um, let me tell you in Colorado, it needs to happen. You guys need to lean into the trends that are the lowhanging fruit. For example, there is there are So, here's what happens in blue states. It's happening in California. I know in my home state of Illinois, there are hundreds of thousands of people that agree with us that don't engage because they think it's just a waste of time, right? They're like, "Oh, my vote doesn't matter. It's too blue." So, what is the lowhanging fruit? Well, the lowhanging fruit are the people that work with their hands, regardless of skin color, especially men that do not have a place in the Democrat party. You need to find them, register them, and bring them into the fold. The same way the Democrats have become the party of the college educated voter. I will tell you the challenge of Colorado. The challenge of Colorado is that it is the second most college educated state in the country. Massachusetts being one, Colorado being two. Now that's bad because obviously you go to learn to hate the country and hate yourself and believe there's no God when you go to college unless it's you know car's Bible college of course, right? So obviously so you need it's that that is a long the college educated problem is a longer problem but there are and I don't know the numbers hundreds of thousands I know on the western slope of people that are not registering and not voting and and here's the thing in particular men of all ages all backgrounds as long as they don't have a four-year degree are going Republican by like a 60 or 70% margin. And so I'm sure you see that on the ground right now. Young ladies are are a separate issue. We can discuss that later on. So what you can do is that I would make a big push in the coming years in Colorado. Run up the score with men. Register more of them to vote. Really go after the plumbers, electricians, the welders, the people that are in the union trades. And then understand that it's going to be a decade long, if not a decade and a halfl long fight to win back the state. But I always look at the question is the state as is it being accurately presented by its political outcomes? And some states are Colorado is not. You guys are you you vote and and you know quotes far more Democrat than the values of this state actually are. And I I do think you're a center-left state in some ways. You have to be honest with that. But the I do an event in Colorado and look at this. We have like 3,000 people here. I mean the there there is a remnant there is a un there is a um a community that wants to take back the state but then you final point is you have to start local and then branch out from there. You got to win the school boards and the superintendent and then the state legislative races before you then win the governor's races. Thank you so much. God bless you. Amen. Hello Charlie. How you doing? Um, my name is Robert Ortega and um, I was thinking I I watch you all the time. Um, I hear your podcast every day and um, I always want to talk to you and one of the situations we have right now is the church. You're right about that. But another situation we have is about the Latino community. Um, I follow you. I follow Michael Nolles, Mud Walsh, Candy Candon Sens, you know, you guys are like the best, you know, and I I see that you have like everything, you know, you have Jewish people, Catholic people, Christian people, um, black people, but I haven't see any representative from the Latino community. Now, I agree with a lot of your points about the immigration that is basically out of control right now. Um, I have a really good friend. He's from Venezuela and he doesn't like to come all these people because for our job, they take a lot of um our income because they go to the low basis. So, we have to go lower because they go much lower. So basically in all the time that I listen to you, I never hear something that promote the Latino vote. I hear that you say, "Well, if they come here illegally, they have to go." I understand that. But there is some people like me, you know, I come here, I have my papers. I think that I own something for the country. I do myself as a volunteer for the fire department because I own something for my for my community. But from the perspective of gaining Latino votes, I don't see that connection. And I think that's really important for what we're doing right now. No, it's a it's a great point and um in in Project 2025, not that one, a different one. We can talk about uh expanding that. I will say this though that I try I try to get away from just black outreach, Hispanic outreach. I think that these values are applicable to all people of all backgrounds and all races. And I think one of the ways that we reach Hispanic voters is two ways. Through men and through the church. And I think we're seeing that in Arizona. We're doing record numbers with Hispanics. Um, and I want to just be clear, I say it all the time, but I'll say it again, which is that you came here legally with your papers. And it is a injustice that other people can cut in line and defraud our system. and get benefits which then makes you feel like well why did I do it the right way when people cut in line. We want illegal immigration to be punished and legal immigration to be rewarded. That is the position of our movement. So I I I and and finally we are seeing more and more distinctions less about race. This is actually one of the more positive things happening in politics. Race doesn't tell you as much about someone's politics anymore. Instead, class and sex will, which is really interesting. And I actually think male, female distinctions matter. I don't think Hispanic, black, white distinctions matter. I don't care about your skin color. I care about your values. Um, but I think male distinction matter actually really matter a lot. I think God made men and women and made them different. And I think that those differences are beautiful. But class is the most interesting. The Republican parties becoming the party of the middle class. By definition, if you're the party in middle class, eventually you will win elections because there's more people in the middle class than in the elite or in the uh permanent underclass. And so, uh, love that feedback and thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Hey, Mr. Kirk. So, real quick, um, two questions. um what would be like the top three most impactful books in your life that you've read or that like you know whether that's Christianity or politics or whatever and then the second one would be how would you self-educate yourself like what's the most effective way the second question how would you self-educate yourself most effectively great so I'll start with the second question I I try to I try to read a 100 books a year um when you don't go to college you have so much time on your hands so um and I listen to podcasts all all the time I take learning I call it going to the the intellectual gym, right? The same way that a bodybuilder goes to the gym every day, someone who's in MySpace has to constantly be consuming content, reading books. Um, I'll give you a couple uh reads that changed my life. A Mere Christianity by CS Lewis is a game changer. And um it's very important to remember when you're reading Mere Christianity, it was originally delivered as radio addresses during the Blitz in London. Uh anything by uh CS Lewis is amazing. The second book is not a Christian book, but it points to Jesus. uh which I think is one of the most powerful books of the 20th century which is man's search for meaning by Victor Frankl. Uh Victor Frankle lost everything in the Holocaust survived um a concentration camp and he he believes that outside of the absolute immediate necessities food and water that the number one um the number one need of humanity is meaning. It is not sex, it's not power, it's not money, but it's meaning. And I think it if you read it now like about 50 70 years later now that we're living through a society that has electricity for everybody, Wi-Fi, cell phones, we're wealthy, but we're also suicidal, depressed, anxious, alcohol, and medically addicted. Victor Frankle's hypothesis 70 years later that he developed in a concentration camp is more true than ever where he realized in the concentration camp that the person even though that they were the sickest person and the weakest person if they had a reason to survive in the concentration camp they would the person that got sick that gave up hope would die within 48 hours and it's amaz what that points to Jesus cuz Jesus is ultimate meaning um just off the top of my head the third one which is a unique One again I'm just kind of riffing on this um would be um the book that uh built your world or the book that changed your world by an Indian author by the name of Vishal Mangawaldi. I know it's like kind of very uh obscure. He's an amazing guy. I've met him. He makes the argument that we as Christians have no idea how much the Bible and Christian worldview have built America and that everything we think is common sense is actually Christian sense. from free speech to private property rights to universal human equality to separation of powers to independent judiciary to guilty until proven innocent to giving money to the poor to all these things that we think are normal actually not normal because he says I grew up in a country that wasn't Christian Indian and he says we don't take care of the poor we have a cast system it's not normal to say that murder is wrong we discard babies all the time in India and he says from an Indian perspective you come to America you realize that the Bible has built this unbelievable society and civilization So there you Hey, Charlie. My name is Charles Montana. Thank you. Uh my wife and I That's a great name. Charles Montana. You should you should be like a folk singer or something. Charles Montana. It's like Johnny Cash. Charles Montana. You got you got a career there. What's your question? My wife and I, we went to this Bible college. Andrew, you've changed our life. Uh Andrew, you I'm sorry. Charlie, you have inspired me to do what I can to save this nation. I'm from the beautiful battleground state of Georgia. My wife and I were planning on starting a church there in Georgia. And we have in 2026 a Senate and governor's race. In 28, presidential and senate race. I wonder if you want to get anything started in Georgia. We're going to be in the Gwynet County area. I want to work for you. So if there is any way that I can get connected with you, if there's any email address I can reach, I want to work for you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we we are hiring and um we are motivated to hire people like you. So if you went to this college, that's uh that's that's what we call a job interview, right? So uh so Mike Mikey can handle that. Um let me just speak uh I want to encourage you to start the church in Georgia because Georgia does not need more churches. It needs better churches. We are in Georgia. Yes. And there are plenty of churches in Georgia, but boy, the quality of churches has just gone down. I mean, Georgia is like the home of the weak and the cowardly and the trembling that don't speak out. And so, there is a population there that is culturally Christian, but they're not being fed a biblical worldview. And that's one of the reasons why Georgia is a perfect example everybody of a state that was once reliably Christian conservative Republican that has become a battleground state and it is solely because of the church. It is exhibit a number numero uno of what happens when the church no longer takes its rightful role as as counselor of the king. So we'd love to work with you. Start that church. We'll help any way we can. Thank you. Hi, my name is Donna Ryan and um I'm a boomer. Came from Massachusetts, transplanted from to California, retired from LA County Sheriff's Department as a law enforcement technician. And I have four beautiful granddaughters. one who is very much she goes to a Christian college but she very much believes in socialism everyone what college Biola well that's not a Christian college oh it's not no they have Ed Stzer is the head of their theology department I'm being facicious meaning like they haven't been Christian in a long time at Biola but yeah oh they they they're what we call woke Christian they've been completely consumed by the woke mind virus and again if I'm offending you excellent because it's Yeah. No, no, I just thought it was I didn't know. So, yes, Biola is a joke and it has been for quite some time. I'm sorry. Maybe is there another one that begins with a B? No, no, you're you're you're describing the right college. Okay, but how how do I what books or what can I do to show her that we all don't need a living wage collectively? We need to work for it and earn it. And also with the issue of abortion, um, we've gone a long way since the 60s. Safe, legal, and rare, right? Pardon me. No, I'm sorry. I meant we used to be safe, legal, and rare when it came to abortion. Well, we had free clinics. They gave out free birth control. They gave out um I was a rape counselor. We had the morning after pill in the 60s and the 70s. Now abortion seems to have taken over what birth control used to do as far as using it yourself, taking care of it yourself. How do I impress on my granddaughters, on the young women around me that even the young men that they're going in the wrong direction? Yeah, it's a great question and I I mean with the Biola stuff that your granddaughter is a perfect example of the type of sloppy theology that they're teaching and then she of course has a screwed up worldview, right? So that's why I was I said what I said because for example at a school like this or a school like Hillsdale that that never would happen, right? Um because they actually educate properly. Um it's going to be tough what you're pinpointing on the living wage stuff. One of the one of my passion projects is to teach economics to pastors because I find that economic literacy amongst pastors. Would you agree with that, Andrew? I would. Yeah. Is that supply and demand, inflation, you know, gross domestic product, you know, money velocity, it's just kind of an unknown thing. Um, and I think it's really beautiful if you think about it. If we believe that God designed the heavens and the earth and everything within and that God gave us dominion to take this earth for man for his purpose then we believe that the laws of physics and the laws of mathematics are all meant as the language of the natural world so that we can flourish and yes the laws of economics too and if you look throughout the Bible by the way uh what is what is storing up for a famine that is the law of economics right it's the law of scarcity at play so all throughout the Bible there's some great books on this so I would encourage with that um but more importantly than ever How do you impress upon? Um, it's a longer conversation, but you need to get down to morals and worldview. And the the most important thing is this, which is what instructs your worldview. If your worldview is not biblical in nature or biblical in root, you're going to get bad politics. You're going to get sloppy morality and sloppy um philosophy because of that. So, happy to recommend some books. But you are the most important thing. You staying on your granddaughter and making sure that you don't let her go to the dark side. That is your task. and that is your purpose. Thank you, Charlie. Hey, Charlie. Thank you so much for coming out. Uh there's a couple big proposals in the Colorado voting right now that are really hard to see and hurt my heart a lot. One, repealing the definition of marriage and the second one is cottifying abortion in the Colorado Constitution. And the specific one I want to get into is they're trying to make it so that the state taxes can start funding abortion healthcare in the state. So from this point forward, I assume that'll get passed just with how Colorado votes from this point forward. I mean I hopefully we can get it. To be honest, he's probably right. So you have to be I mean let me ask a question though, Andrew. What percentage of pastors are speaking out against that amendment would you say in this state? I don't know. Would you guess? I mean half uh 5%. Well, then that thing's going to pass. I mean, so don't boo him. Don't say no. If only 5% of pastors are speaking out against taxpayer funded abortion, you guys got no shot, right? You got 95% of pastors in churches silent and you think that something's going to be defeated. But please Yeah, continue. No, thank you. Good point. And I'm trying to talk to as many people as I can to vote against it. But my my moral conundrum is if I stay in the state past that point, if it gets passed, then my tax dollars will be going to support abortion. And so I'm stuck between voting with my feet and moving to a more conservative state to show that these laws aren't okay or staying in a state like Colorado and actually fighting against the laws actively. I mean I I'm not sure what would be more that is a very very smart question and I want I know that's really so first from the federal government uh the courts have decided that you cannot fund abortion not the courts but they they find ways around it but at least employers can't provide abortion fa abortive patients or abortion provided services through employer provided healthcare um I I would struggle Arizona is on a similar trajectory Unfortunately, we're not having taxpayer funded abortion, but we have Prop 139 that's going to allow abortion up until the moment of birth for infants. I mean, and it's unfortunately going to pass because we, you know, we did a poll. Only 7% of Arizona pastors are speaking out against it. And I I I do have to say something though, and I know that this might bother some people, and I again, you know, me, but it's, you know, Catholics are far more outspoken on this stuff than we are, guys. And I I I I my my mom was raised Catholic. My wife was raised Catholic. And you know, there's a lot of kind of like Cathol anti-atholic stuff that happens in evangelical circles. And I get it. I I understand it to a certain extent. But guys, understand that the Catholic faithful is far more outspokenly pro-life than your average evangelical church. And I I think that needs to be repeated and that needs to be internalized. I'll just give my example in Scottsdale and I will get to your question. In Scottsdale, the arch dascese has said that if you uh the Scots dascese of Scottsdale, Father Klein has said if you vote for a Democrat this cycle, you are in rebellion of the Catholic Church. Like do not do not take communion. Like that's a big deal, right? And we don't we don't hear that kind of moral teaching very often. So I personally would struggle to live in a state where my taxpayer funded dollars went for abortion. I'm not saying we're going to move. I'm doing this on the fly, though. It would be very difficult for me to work as hard as I work, to pay as much as I pay in taxes, and know that would go towards the slaughter of the unborn. So, you make what's right for you. I'm not saying to leave the state. There is an equally as good moral argument to stay and fight. Okay? And so, I want to make sure you're hearing me correctly, but I I would struggle with that. I I would. Thank you. God bless you. Hi, my name is Thomas Pascal. I am first of all it's nice to see you firsthand Charlie and to the great pastors and great speakers and the presentation I would have to say you know as an independent radio show host for decades since Trump declared his president uh running for president and you know to be on the front lines on this in the right side of history I by the way I got two questions um one of them is so what happens if they don't certify the election and not only that how do we stop the steel especially with everything that's happening in this country right now. So, so the first question is a super smart question and that's that is not getting enough attention and I'm intentionally not covering it on my radio program and podcast cuz it's not relevant yet and it will be but we have a whole plan for it. Guys, we have Jamie Rascin saying that if they win the House of Representatives that they might not certify Donald Trump as the winner. Now, these are the people that attacked Donald Trump for even asking questions about the 2020 election. So, what's the solution, guys? We have to keep the House of Representatives for that reason and that reason alone. And you guys have seats here in Colorado that are going to really matter. And so, you might not Colorado might not send its electoral votes for Trump, but it very well might decide whether or not Trump can actually serve as president of the United States. And so, you have to win these House of Representative seats. That is such a smart point. Do you guys understand what he's talking about technically here? If you're not, let me just explain it to you is that even though if you win the electoral college, the electoral college meets in mid December, you guys remember they transmit their votes all the way to Congress. Congress meets on January 6th to go through a performative quote unquote ceremonial vote as they say now. But the House of Representatives can decide not to certify the election, which of course what they attacked us for back in 2020 for asking the questions about the sloppiest, most fraudulent election in American history. And yet this time they're saying they won't do it because he's a felon or that all this sort of stuff. and they might do it. These people are not just going to hand over power back to us and to Donald Trump. So, there is a plan, the easiest, quickest plan. We're we control the House of Representatives. We can do it rather simply. And you guys need every blue state that says that you guys don't have to partake in getting Donald Trump elected. I want this to be clipped up. And every blue state voter in California, New York, vote for your Republic Republican House of Representatives because you're actually voting it as a proxy for Donald Trump becoming president of the United States. It's incredibly important. Very good. Um, to your other part, how you stop the steel, you're not we're not going to completely stop it. We have some better laws, thanks to David Barton in certain states. Georgia's cleaned up some stuff. We're too late in the game, honestly, for some of it. We need poll watchers and all that stuff. The most assured way is that we have to overwhelm the system with so many ballots and so many people and do what we did in 2016 and make it too big to rig. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Hi. Um, my name is Kenzie. I'm 21. I am a first generation Colorado, a first-time home buyer this year, and I just got married two months ago. My question, my question for you is within your family, how do you make conscious, healthy decisions with our food system being as bad as it is? Also, what has to take place in order for America to turn around their overall health issues? I I I love this question, by the way, and it's a very it's a very important biblical question. Um, and I think one of the sins that the church is most guilty of is sloth and the inability for us to call out sloth within the church. And I will I will talk about that. Uh, I got one person applauding cuz it's not a popular thing to say. Um, but let let me first say uh I love that you got married young. We as Christians are not doing a good enough job of celebrating young marriages. In fact, we see I see pastors like, "Oh, wait till your late 20s or early 30s to get married." I mean, where does this come from, guys? I mean, we need to do a better job of celebrating the covenant of marriage and having children in the church, right? Amen. So, um, so I I love that you got married. Have Mormon levels of children. Okay. So, to to the point about making healthy decisions, um, you know, I I I'm kind of a a crazy person when it comes to this stuff, right? I don't eat sugar. I eat very very few carbohydrates, right? I eat like five different things, fast every day, you know, I'm I'm a hawk with this. Obviously, no drugs, no alcohol, none of that stuff. Um, and that's how I'm able to, you know, do 18 hours every day, talk 11 hours a day, travel the country. Um, and the scriptures tell us it that your body is a temple. And what you put into your body is actually a form of worship or of desecration to the Lord. And you need to be reminded of that. that since your body is a temple, if you are putting substances that actively hurt your body but consume your flesh, then you aren't using your body as a way to elevate to the Lord. And so, um, how can we get back to a more healthy track? This is why I am thanking God that Bobby Kennedy has endorsed Donald Trump and is part of his agenda. Um, I I I could give an hourlong speech on this. I won't, but I'll just kind of isolate a couple figures that I think are important. Um, Japan has 3% of their 15y olds that are chronically obese or overweight. Half 50% of our 15y olds are chronically obese or overweight. Um, uh, 25 years ago, autism was 1 in 10,000 kids. Now it's 1 in 25 kids. Uh, something is happening and it's the it's the environmental pollutants. It very well might be that ridiculously aggressive childhood vaccination schedule. I'm not here to tell you what to do with your kids, but you got to use some logic and common sense here. If you are just pumping vaccines into a beautiful six-month old baby, you guys make your own decisions. That's the end of Charlie Kirk's commentary on that. But, um, I'm a big medical freed I'm a big medical freedom um, advocate on that. But most importantly, I think it is the food and the food supply. Um, if you just take one example of hundreds, for example, Kellogg cereal. Kellogg cereal in America. If you took if you put up Kellogg cereal versus Canadian cereal, Kellogg cereal in America is colored with blue dye 22 and zentham gum and and red die 84 which is illegal and forbidden in Canadian cereal. And these ingredients have been shown to increase um uh likelihood of autism, behavioral disorder issues, attention deficit disorder issues, and yes, obesity. This is so bad. Everybody, let me tell you what the Democrat's plan is for this and what Donald Trump's plan is, which is two different things. And I I know we're running out of time, but it's so important. The Democrats are about to authorize OMPic to be used for 13-year-olds on the Medicaid schedule as a way to treat obesity. They don't even want to talk about diet, activity, or nutrition. We are actively poisoning our youth. What Donald Trump will do is he will send Bobby Kennedy in like a heat-seeking missile into the FDA and the CDC and he will blow up the food pyramid. He will get rid of these people that use this fake science that's saying, "Oh, actually highly processed foods are good for you," which is a bunch of garbage and nonsense. We will promote from the top down a whole food diet where it's not heavy on rice and grains and potatoes and elevates lean proteins and healthy fats which literally is what helps create brain material. Law raw brain material literally comes from healthy fats. We've de demonized fats. Even though fats are what's the most necessary thing for you to live. There are three types of food. Proteins, fats, and carbohydrates. Only one of those you do not need. Two of those you do. Proteins and fats you need to live. You don't need carbohydrates. It's the one thing you don't need to live is the one that we elevate more than anything else in this country. And so it can go on at length and it but we as Christians should care about our neighbor. Love your neighbor as yourself. And if your neighbor is actively being poisoned by your big corporations, it's time to say no more. Donald Trump will do that with Bobby Kennedy. Another reason to vote for him. Thank you. Sorry guys. Very good. All right. Hello. Can everyone hear me? Cool. All right. My name is Luke. I am 18 years old. It's my first election coming up. I am voting for Trump. Yay. A lot of supporters in here. All right. So, I got two questions for you. They're kind of they're not really similar. So, I'm going to start with the first one. Um, back in 2020 when I paid attention to the election with Biden's p campaign and him versus Trump, they didn't really push on Biden's campaign too aggressively. Uh, to the best of my knowledge, it didn't look like they were trying, at least as hard as they are for Camala. And it just got me wondering, do you think they are scared to cheat again in any sort of way because they are trying so much harder to push Camala than they were for Biden? And I feel like they feel like now they cannot cheat in the same way they did before. Do you feel like they are scared to cheat? They scared might be one explanation for it. I also think that we're watching. I think don't don't discount citizens watching and the eyeballs that we have on this. Um I I I can't really read into the liberal psyche except I will tell you this. They are very worried that they're on the precipice of her collapsing completely. It is happening in real time. Uh her poll numbers are diving. They're not having the voter registration numbers they wanted. Voter turnout is not what they want. You saw that Brett Bear interview. I mean what a disaster that was for. Oh my goodness. Right. By the way, Brett Bear, where did that come from? Thank you, Brett Bear. Right. send you a signed MAGA hat. I mean, I thought it was great. Um, yes. What's your second question? I want to get to as many as possible. Yeah. And the second question is for an 18-year-old, you know, starting out in this broken economy thanks to the Biden campaign and the Camala and all of them. What do you think the best advice for just an 18-year-old just starting out in life is uh as of right now? Um, it's it's a great question. First of all, the best investment are things that you can invest in yourself. So the the knowledge base, take Hillsdale online courses, the books that you read. Um look at life as to what you ought to do and what you need to do, not what you deserve and that what you think you're entitled to. The sooner as a young man you realize that you have a duty to your country, to the divine, to build a family and have kids, not that the world has to send you something, the happier you will be, the more productive you'll be, and the more meaningful life that you will live. Um so finally which is this which is when you are young take the risk that you will regret not taking when you're older. Going to college is largely a waste of time unless you go to this college. Um if you want to start a business start a business at a young age. If you want to travel the country start a travel the country at a young age. And finally save yourself for marriage and elevate purity and do not do not share your sexual experience with other people. Purity culture must be celebrated and elevated more in Christian circles and it's kind of been cast aside. Find a woman to marry, get married, and have lots of children and defend that family and provide for that family as the man of that family. Thank you. Thank you. So, uh I have more of like a personal question. um with how like busy your schedule is and everything, I'm just wondering how you keep your relationship with Jesus like the main thing in your life practically daytoday like how that looks because you're doing so many good things, good works, just how that looks like. Well, it's it's one of my favorite questions cuz it's actually what my next book is going to be all about, which you'll have me back. Um my next book is called Stop in the Name of God. Um the case for the Sabbath, which of course Shabbat literally means uh stop. Um I am not Seventh Day Adventist. Um, but I do believe that the Shabbat or the Sabbath, uh, is the mystery, the secret that so many Christians overlook. Uh, that is the gateway to allow you to observe the other nine commandments and to put Jesus first. I'm not saying this in a legalist way. I'm not even saying that you're biblically commanded to do it. I'm saying you're missing out if you are not obeying the Sabbath. That's what I am saying. I'll tell you my own life. I turn off my phone on Friday night. It goes back on on Sunday. When I fly back, it is all family, all Saturday. Maybe a little college football, but things that I enjoy. It says in the scriptures, what does it say? For six days you shall work. On the seventh day, you shall rest. Let's remember what the Bible says about the Sabbath. God himself rested on the seventh day. It is the only of the ten commandments which is a ritual. And that means it's pretty darn important. In the Jewish tradition, it is the holiest of all days equivalent with yam kapour. It is a standing celebration in time of which you say what? Thank you God for creating the heavens and the earth. We are commanded to say praise of thanksgiving to God at least once a week in a ritual way. Say God, thank you for life. Thank you for putting up this all in existence. Thank you for giving us what we have around us. So I believe in a country where we are so distracted that we are so suffocated that we are flooded with texts and emails and pings and dings and Netflix and Hulu that maybe we look back to the scriptures of the thing that we're missing that a country where we used to shut it down for one day and here is the test. You ready for the Sabbath test? The Sabbath test is this. If I cannot walk into your home and tell that it's the Sabbath because it looks like every other day you're not honoring the Sabbath. If it looks like every other day, then you aren't dedicating one day to God. Yes, you should give money to the church. Yes, you should give money to charities. But I'm challenging you. Give one day. Give time to God. The thing that we're the most protective of. And it's changed my life. I started doing this back a couple summers ago. It allows me to honor my parents better. Allows me to put my marriage first. Allows me to put Jesus first and God first when I'm not just looking at emails and text messages all day. You might say, "You're too busy." Look, I'm busier than you. I'm sorry. I hate to pull rank on this one, guys. Okay, you aren't more busy than I am. You might have more stuff going on, okay? But it's the question of what matters most. What I love about on the Sabbath, it's that it's a test. It's God putting the test, saying, "Obey my commands." We are called in the scriptures to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind. In Deuteronomy 6 through 3-5, if you honor the Sabbath, it makes it so much easier, sweeter, and deeper. That's how I do it. Thank you. Thanks. Amen. I think this will be the final question. Yeah. Hey, Charlie. I'm Luke's dad and uh I grew up um being mentored by a friend of yours that we all miss, Rush Limbbo. Discovered him when I was in high school. Wasn't Rush the best, everybody? I miss Rush every day. And um I'm a children's pastor and uh so I have a ministry there, but he inspired me to start my own business. I'm not going to mention it because I don't look like I'm promoting it. Um but uh but he inspired me uh and taught me, trained me. He did a lot of what you do where he didn't just comment on the things of the day, but he trained and he taught and he educated the wise behind his responses to the current events. And that's what I appreciate about you. And I wanted to say in a lot of ways, you're an answer to prayer because when I became a dad uh to Luke, and I say became a dad, my son's adopted. He came into our home and um as a baby and uh by the way, you're fully a father as a biological father. I want you to know that. Amen. Amen for that. Amen. Amen. But um I I wished there was a Rush Limbbo for my son. And I just want to say thank you for what you are for the young people of our country because Rush played such a role in my life. I know you got to meet him. I love that sound clip at the beginning of your show where he says, "Folks, he's running the White House, you know, and I know you're very proud of your story. I'll tell it to you." That is that is quite a quote. The question I have for you, Luke has he's 18 now. He's finishing up homeschool and he started
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