Charlie Kirk Confronts Student on Viral Consent Clip and Sexual Assault Definitions at Campus Event

[00:00] Hey guys, how are you doing today? So,

[00:03] I've just got one

[00:05] I've just got one quick question for

[00:06] you, Charlie. So, a clip has surfaced

[00:09] and gone viral of you saying there are

[00:11] gray and murky areas when it comes to a

[00:13] woman consenting, as well as it's unfair

[00:16] to define it as sexual assault if um if

[00:19] a woman uh gets rid of the consent,

[00:22] takes the consent away, and the guy

[00:23] keeps going. I just want to ask you like

[00:25] what the was that because obviously no

[00:28] is no, and that's the end of it. I would

[00:29] even go as far.

[00:30] >> I agree. So, um, but you agree. So, of

[00:33] course, but you didn't watch the whole

[00:34] clip, obviously, because you're a

[00:35] typical Jenzier that just looks at 15

[00:37] seconds.

[00:37] >> I saw the full clip that was there.

[00:38] >> No, you didn't. No, you didn't. They did

[00:39] not post the full thing, but go ahead.

[00:41] Move the goalost. Let Let me Let me show

[00:43] you. And I'll prove to you the gray

[00:44] area. The law says that if you are

[00:46] intoxicated, consent cannot be given.

[00:49] Correct?

[00:49] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:50] >> Okay. Oh, hold on. Hold on. If if can if

[00:52] someone's intoxicated and consent cannot

[00:54] be given, then if a woman who's

[00:56] intoxicated having sex, then

[00:58] definitionally she's being raped, right?

[01:00] >> Yeah.

[01:00] >> Oh, so every woman and every man who's

[01:02] had sex while intoxicated as a rapist.

[01:04] >> Not necessar. That's the gray area. Do

[01:07] you see where I say gray area?

[01:08] >> I understand what you're saying. But

[01:10] this is this is also really complicated

[01:12] because

[01:13] >> Exactly. It's complicated. That was my

[01:14] point.

[01:15] >> Okay. But can I can I finish what I was

[01:17] saying? So you think that if the woman

[01:20] removes consent, right, and the man

[01:22] keeps going, you think that it's unfair?

[01:25] Cuz this isn't about them being stop.

[01:27] The point was all about intoxication.

[01:28] >> This isn't about them being drunk. Just

[01:30] let me finish. I'm almost done. It is.

[01:31] This

[01:33] >> This isn't about them being drunk. This

[01:35] is about her removing consent, changing

[01:38] her answer to no, and him continuing to

[01:40] go. How is that not sexual assault,

[01:42] Charlie?

[01:42] >> Yes, it is. That's not That's not at all

[01:44] what I was saying.

[01:44] >> You said it wasn't. You said it's an

[01:46] unfair categorization

[01:47] >> lying to this audience. Okay, man.

[01:48] Again, let me ask you this hypothetical

[01:50] again of which you it's lost on your

[01:51] memory. Okay, very simple. If a woman is

[01:54] drunk and the man is both drunk to the

[01:56] point of intoxication at 2 a.m. They're

[01:58] both drunk.

[01:58] >> That's not the question. Don't give me a

[02:00] red herring right now.

[02:00] >> That is what I did in the video.

[02:02] >> You're strawmaning my argument. Listen

[02:04] to what I asked you. Answer the

[02:05] question, Charlie. Answer my question.

[02:06] >> Yes, it is sexual assault. But let me

[02:08] ask you a different question. Is an

[02:09] unwanted kiss sexual assault?

[02:11] >> Yeah, absolutely. An unwanted kiss is

[02:13] sexual assault. Okay, so two people are

[02:15] sitting on a bench bench and a man goes

[02:17] in to kiss a girl and she doesn't want

[02:18] it. Did he just sexually assault her?

[02:20] >> No, because he didn't fully complete the

[02:21] kiss and she backed away. However,

[02:23] that's an unwanted kiss.

[02:24] >> If he completely if he completes the

[02:26] kiss, it is sexual assault. Yes.

[02:28] >> By the way, this point right here is why

[02:30] men are so afraid to date women and why

[02:33] men are staying away because they're

[02:34] like, I'll be called a sexual assaulter

[02:36] if I go in for

[02:37] >> No, that's just a coping excuse for guys

[02:39] who can't get girls.

[02:40] >> Well, I I

[02:41] >> Yeah, it is. Guys can't get girls and

[02:43] they complain about girls withdrawing

[02:45] consent cuz they cannot get any women to

[02:47] look their way.

[02:48] >> Honestly, I think it's so dangerous and

[02:50] wrong to say that an unwanted kiss is

[02:52] sexual assault.

[02:53] >> It is sexual assault. How How can you

[02:55] sit here and tell me that if a man

[02:57] kisses a woman and she doesn't want it

[02:59] and he goes through without sexual

[03:01] >> Let me ask you. Hold on. How does Let me

[03:03] clear. If they're on a date, does a man

[03:05] need to ask permission before he kisses

[03:06] somebody?

[03:07] >> Listen.

[03:08] >> No. I want you to think about how insane

[03:09] that is. So, it's a first date and

[03:11] they're sitting on a bench.

[03:12] >> There are signals. Charlie, have you

[03:13] ever been around a woman?

[03:14] >> Well, okay. Uh, yeah. I'm married with

[03:15] two kids. Are you married?

[03:16] >> I've got a girlfriend here and I very

[03:18] much.

[03:18] >> Are you married? Wherever you're at,

[03:20] >> you're married?

[03:21] >> Yeah. No, I've got a girlfriend. I'm

[03:22] going to be married soon. I'm going to

[03:23] be married.

[03:23] >> Okay. So, again, so but the entire topic

[03:26] was about intoxication. Once somebody is

[03:28] intoxicated, the law says consent cannot

[03:31] be given. So, let me just be clear.

[03:33] Every girl at a college campus that has

[03:34] sex while they're intoxicated, are they

[03:36] raped?

[03:36] >> That's not my question.

[03:37] >> That is the point.

[03:38] >> That's not my question, Charlie. I said,

[03:39] "Yeah, I I already answered your

[03:41] question that if a man continues

[03:42] unsexual activity with a woman past

[03:44] consent, he is committing sexual

[03:45] assault."

[03:46] >> That wasn't your answer before. You

[03:47] changed your answer. You said it's an

[03:49] unfair categorization. You said those

[03:50] words on camera.

[03:51] >> Do you know what the unfair

[03:52] categorization was?

[03:53] >> What?

[03:53] >> Around an unwanted kiss of two people on

[03:55] a bench that I stand by that statement.

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[04:58] That again, everybody in this talk about

[05:00] frat and sorority hooking up at 2 a.m. I

[05:03] remember the conversation.

[05:04] >> Oh my gosh. Again, is about

[05:05] intoxication. It was a 20inut

[05:07] conversation. You saw 3 minutes of it.

[05:09] I'm not going to waste everybody's time.

[05:10] >> The clip was all in a row though.

[05:12] >> Again, it cuts it. You didn't see the

[05:14] entire thing. Okay.

[05:16] >> I don't need to. I know who you are cuz

[05:17] of who you voted for. You voted for a

[05:19] man who is sexually liable. Who is

[05:22] >> Here we go.

[05:23] >> I know who you are. You

[05:25] >> Oh, you know who I am. Last,

[05:27] >> oh, hold on. Donald Trump has never

[05:29] sexually assaulted or raped anybody on

[05:31] his own from the pit of hell.

[05:33] >> Oh, really? When did he do it? What

[05:34] year?

[05:34] >> When did I know?

[05:35] >> She didn't either in court. She didn't

[05:37] even remember the year. Who Who cl who

[05:38] made the claim?

[05:39] >> That is so harmful.

[05:41] That is so harmful to say that because

[05:43] she doesn't remember the year that it

[05:44] doesn't that

[05:45] >> Hold on. Eene Eene Carol said rape is

[05:48] sexy.

[05:49] >> Was Donald Trump ever convicted of being

[05:50] a rapist?

[05:51] >> That's not about

[05:52] >> Was Donald Trump ever convicted of being

[05:53] a rapist? He was held civily liable.

[05:55] >> Ah, civily, not criminally. Why?

[05:58] >> It doesn't matter. If he's held liable

[06:00] for something, the threshold of civil

[06:02] and criminals, two completely different

[06:03] things.

[06:03] >> So, you want to say they're guilty when

[06:04] it's immigrants, but not when it's

[06:05] Trump. You think there should be harder

[06:07] standards for someone to get into the

[06:09] country.

[06:10] Immigrants, illegal immigrants are

[06:12] felons.

[06:12] >> I don't care. That's not my question.

[06:14] >> You just brought that up.

[06:16] >> I'm saying that you think it should be

[06:18] harder for someone to get into the

[06:19] country than become a president.

[06:20] >> Yeah. Again, it should be very hard.

[06:22] >> You do.

[06:23] >> Wait, hold I did not say that. What are

[06:24] you talking about?

[06:25] >> You said yes.

[06:26] >> Hold on. First of all, how dare you say

[06:28] it was easy for Trump to be president?

[06:29] He faced 700 years in federal prison and

[06:31] got shot on his way to the presidency.

[06:33] How dare you say that it's easy for him

[06:35] to be president. You just keep you just

[06:37] keep bringing up things that have

[06:39] nothing to do with

[06:40] >> things you don't like cuz they're facts

[06:41] you don't like. Let me repeat. Stop

[06:43] means stop. Intoxication is a gray area.

[06:46] An unwanted kiss of two teenagers on a

[06:48] park bench and a young man goes in does

[06:50] not make him a sexual assaulter. That is

[06:52] my final statement. Thank you very much.

[06:54] >> None of this changes the fact I I'll go

[06:56] after I'll go after this. None of this

[06:58] changes that you said that it was an

[07:00] unfair categorization. MAGA, all of you

[07:02] who support Trump, this is what you're

[07:04] voting for. A man who was held like what

[07:07] I said of sexual go.

[07:09] >> These people are cheering for sexual

[07:10] assault.

[07:11] >> I literally said stop means stop. When

[07:14] there's intoxication, there is a gray

[07:16] area. And if a teenage boy goes in for

[07:19] an unwanted kiss with a young girl, that

[07:21] does not make him a sexual assaulter for

[07:22] the rest of his life. Can we agree on

[07:24] those three things? My goodness.

[07:27] >> And are we forgetting that just this

[07:29] past week in California, there was a

[07:31] bill defending making it uh illegal for

[07:35] 16 and 17 year olds to be actually legal

[07:37] to be for 16 and 17 year olds to be sold

[07:39] into sex slavery and child trafficking.

[07:43] This is what state senator Scott Weiner

[07:45] tweeted. Sending an 18-year-old high

[07:48] school senior to state prison for

[07:50] offering his 17-year-old classmate $20

[07:53] to fool around isn't smart criminal

[07:56] justice policy. Yet, that's what some

[07:58] people are effectively advocating in

[08:00] this misleading debate.

[08:02] >> And Riley, let's just go a step further.

[08:04] That that almost all the Democrats are

[08:06] going to vote for this thing.

[08:08] >> They did.

[08:09] >> It's like and and is Gavin Newsome going

[08:10] to sign it? We'll see. Or is he too busy

[08:12] hosting a podcast?