Charlie Kirk Debates Women on When Life Begins and Abortion Consciousness Arguments

[00:00] would you date a guy who was pro life

[00:04] starting with you would I date one right

[00:06] now yeah okay no no yes probably not I

[00:12] don't think so no that's a requirement

[00:15] yes good freedom I mean

[00:19] I I think women should have the right to

[00:21] choose in certain

[00:25] situations okay mainly based on

[00:28] essay sure

[00:30] okay

[00:32] uh taking away Charlie yeah I mean who

[00:35] has strong opinions on the

[00:36] topic don't look at me Canadian Canadian

[00:41] talking all right for those of you that

[00:43] are pro abortion any one of you can

[00:44] chime in you can take a second when does

[00:47] Life begin when you have Consciousness

[00:50] okay when is that um it's it's debated

[00:53] but probably around 20 to 24 weeks maybe

[00:56] 18 to 24 weeks so then would you say we

[00:58] should allow no more abortions after 18

[01:00] weeks it's a little tougher after that I

[01:03] probably would agree that maybe you

[01:06] shouldn't if you do maybe you know I'll

[01:09] be more okay with it but at the same

[01:10] time I'd be a little weary about it okay

[01:13] anybody else have a thought on that I

[01:15] don't care don't care okay no opinion

[01:18] hold on because some abortions late term

[01:20] are kind of crazy you should have

[01:22] abortions super late term right which

[01:25] America has the craziest late term

[01:26] abortion law uh welcome to Canada Canada

[01:29] is also out of control too can Canada is

[01:31] any anytime in Canada wow any that's

[01:34] remarkable what does anytime mean

[01:36] anytime in the womb up to up to

[01:38] gestation up to yeah in Canada um I

[01:42] think it's dependent on area actually I

[01:43] think it's but but abortion is also a

[01:45] medical term so it's not necessarily

[01:47] that someone wants to get rid of it it's

[01:48] it's also a medical abortion so like you

[01:50] need to cuz uh I had someone in my life

[01:54] who six months in they were super happy

[01:56] about their pregnancy and they had to

[01:58] have an abortion because they're fetus

[02:00] died inside of them see yeah that's

[02:02] that's a surgical removal though that's

[02:04] still it's still considered an abortion

[02:05] is that right yeah it's still considered

[02:06] an abortion you're not really aborting a

[02:08] pregnancy so it's just a maybe not

[02:09] aborting a pregnancy but you're still

[02:11] aborting it's still an abortion I guess

[02:14] yeah I guess that's

[02:15] a yeah it's still the same term it's

[02:17] still the same term yeah it's just not

[02:20] technically an abort an abortion would

[02:21] be the well when you're thinking of

[02:23] abortion you're thinking of aborting a a

[02:25] live fetus that may be viable to live on

[02:27] but but an abortion can still be

[02:31] uh a fetus that is already dead that you

[02:33] have to abort because it will rot inside

[02:35] of you and kill you that's the sensitive

[02:37] areas still in the US no even even

[02:39] pro-life people myself are okay if the

[02:41] fetus is no longer living removing the

[02:43] fetus well that's what happened to this

[02:44] person that I knew they had to have an

[02:46] abortion at 6 months because they're

[02:48] yeah again that's we're I wouldn't say

[02:50] that's an abortion but I don't want to

[02:51] it technically is an abortion but like

[02:53] with Texas for example Texas law right

[02:55] you're allowed to remove a dead fetus

[02:58] yeah that's still an abortion at that

[02:59] point it's still an abortion you have to

[03:00] abort the fetus because I know but is it

[03:03] living no no it doesn't it doesn't have

[03:05] to be living for it to be an abortion

[03:07] we're just calming over terms that would

[03:08] be a surgery for but but we should call

[03:11] it what it is if it's an abortion it's

[03:12] an abortion okay that's an interesting

[03:14] debate what is abortion then uh removing

[03:16] a fetus dead or alive from your body

[03:18] okay dead or alive I would say alive we

[03:19] just disagree yeah meaning I would say

[03:21] that ceasing the life that's interesting

[03:23] you said dead because but even when it's

[03:25] dead you have to abort it you have to

[03:27] remove it you can remove abort abort

[03:30] well you can you can remove it without

[03:31] surgery though no not when it's 6 months

[03:34] old not 6 months but at a month but but

[03:37] so what about 6 months what would you

[03:38] call it then when you have to remove a

[03:39] six-month old fetus we're calming over

[03:41] terms I wouldn't disagree that it

[03:42] requires surgery but is it not an

[03:44] abortion no because you're not actually

[03:45] aborting the mission you have to abort

[03:47] the mission the fetus is dead remove it

[03:51] so so then 500 years ago how did that

[03:53] fetus leave the no the mother the it

[03:55] would the fenus would rot inside the

[03:57] mother and the mother would die not not

[03:59] all the time no the woman could also

[04:00] give birth to doesn't happen all the

[04:02] time but that doesn't that that rarely

[04:04] happens most that's why that's why they

[04:06] call upon it to be removed because nine

[04:08] times out of 10 the mother will die from

[04:10] the fetus I'm morally fine with that

[04:13] that's for sure do you think that if a

[04:15] baby can feel pain regardless of

[04:17] Consciousness hold on I'm talking about

[04:19] a dead fetus at six months no I'm not

[04:20] disagreeing with that you're dwelling on

[04:22] that micro issue Sor sorry hold on I'm

[04:24] listening okay but going way back to

[04:27] like when abortion should be illegal so

[04:30] you say life begins at Consciousness

[04:31] sorry when should abortion be illegal at

[04:33] what time I think all abortion should be

[04:35] illegal but but at what time you said

[04:37] when at beginning at conception okay no

[04:39] I'm trying to understand your position

[04:41] okay so okay hold back I'm listening

[04:44] sorry she going to shut up that's okay

[04:46] so so you say Consciousness is when life

[04:48] begins mhm okay so then if somebody is

[04:51] without Consciousness after a car

[04:53] accident and they're on life support yes

[04:56] they're no longer living unplug them

[04:58] take unplug them okay yeah you're

[05:00] consistent so even the ones that come

[05:02] back to full Consciousness when their

[05:03] brain waves are no longer detected to

[05:04] late baby

[05:06] unplug I'm fine with that I have no

[05:08] issue with that what do you mean how is

[05:11] that crazy that's kind

[05:13] of isn't it want some not but also I see

[05:17] her point because so many people are

[05:19] kept Alive by their family members who

[05:21] are grieving but I thought they're not

[05:22] alive no no but they're kept their

[05:26] bodies are kept physically alive by

[05:28] their families that are grieving and I'm

[05:30] talking about like for years and youres

[05:32] that I can afford it right and it's like

[05:34] and that's why I see her point a a a a a

[05:37] physically developing fetus is not the

[05:40] same as a full grown human human that's

[05:42] already alive for sure what species is

[05:43] the

[05:44] fetus they're human but they're still a

[05:46] fetus we that's why we differentiate a

[05:48] fetus from a human but what does fetus

[05:50] mean what does that fetus is a

[05:52] developing human they're not quite human

[05:54] yeto develop so what so they become a

[05:56] human right when brain waves when they

[05:58] when they when they develop mental

[06:00] Consciousness which could be as early as

[06:02] 6 week 12 weeks but I'll take exact date

[06:04] we don't know the exact if I told you if

[06:06] we have data that shows 6 weeks you'd be

[06:07] cool with cutting it off yeah if if we

[06:09] could see 6 weeks that you had mental

[06:12] Consciousness that you could you could

[06:14] experience life and four memories but at

[06:17] 6 weeks you can't you just can't you

[06:18] don't even do you even have a heartbeat

[06:20] at six weeks no well you do yeah around

[06:21] six or S is it is it not 10 weeks it

[06:23] depends I mean we we sort of know I mean

[06:26] every baby's trajectory is different

[06:27] it's between 6 to 10 weeks so yeah but

[06:30] if a baby can feel pain and have a

[06:32] heartbeat you're you're you're okay with

[06:34] that it no I don't care about a

[06:36] heartbeat at all I don't care about

[06:38] heartbeat in any capacity why because if

[06:40] I'm brain dead and I'm laying in a

[06:43] hospital bed and I have a heartbeat but

[06:44] my brain is dead you're going to pull

[06:45] the plug do do you think that a human

[06:47] being is more than brain waves no it's

[06:49] all about your brain