Charlie Kirk on Robert F Kennedy Jr for HHS Secretary and Why Big Pharma Is Fighting Him

[00:00] uh joining us now is David mansd dorfer

[00:03] former deputy assistant secretary for

[00:05] health David welcome to the program uh

[00:08] on this program we're very much behind

[00:09] Bobby Kennedy becoming HHS secretary

[00:12] David make the case as to why you

[00:14] believe Bobby Kennedy uh should be

[00:15] installed as

[00:17] such I think that uh Bobby Kennedy has

[00:21] the chance to challenge all of the

[00:23] preconceived notions around Public

[00:26] Health as we've seen during covid and

[00:28] coming Beyond Co

[00:30] that we just saw such a Draconian use of

[00:34] Public Health in the United States and

[00:37] with this uh nomination which really

[00:40] brings together a unique movement around

[00:42] Health in America we're really at a

[00:45] flash point to make sure that we can

[00:50] push evidence-based practices and not be

[00:53] censored around topics that we have

[00:55] traditionally been not able to talk

[00:57] about and RFK brings all those to the

[01:00] table RFK brings every opportunity to uh

[01:06] to disrupt a public health industry and

[01:08] a money industry that is um in desperate

[01:12] need of

[01:14] Reform yeah and so the the I think the

[01:19] core issue here is Bobby Kennedy has

[01:21] been a lifelong Public Health Advocate

[01:25] he's been a lifelong advocate for moms

[01:29] and against environmental

[01:32] toxins what is it especially who is

[01:35] against him most forcefully and

[01:39] why well I think the pharmaceutical

[01:41] companies to start um as as you seen

[01:44] with um vice president Pence's kind of

[01:47] fake outrage campaign um which is being

[01:50] funded by Pharma uh you have a lot of

[01:53] money in healthc care and you have a lot

[01:54] of money and special interest groups

[01:56] that are deeply embedded in the US

[01:59] Department ofth and Human Services that

[02:01] do not want to see their money troughs

[02:03] being taken away from each other um and

[02:06] so I think you're going to see the

[02:08] activist Association groups uh come out

[02:11] heavily against him like the American

[02:13] Medical Association you're going to see

[02:14] Pharma come out against him um and

[02:17] you're going to see a lot of the big

[02:18] money players that don't want people to

[02:21] know where the money is and they're

[02:22] going to feed it through groups and

[02:24] organizations like Mike Pence's group

[02:27] that is coming out and creating all this

[02:29] fake outrage

[02:32] yeah I mean look a healthy population is

[02:33] the kiss of death for big Pharma talk

[02:36] about how if we actually get to root

[02:38] causes if we get down to the root issue

[02:42] then we don't need OIC for obesity for

[02:46] kids we don't need these other

[02:48] interventions down the

[02:51] road yeah I think one of the first

[02:53] things that a secretary Kennedy if

[02:56] confirmed will look at is the things

[02:57] like the dietary guidelines which go

[03:00] deeply into how we have um do school

[03:04] lunch programs here in the United States

[03:06] which is a big indicator of Health um as

[03:08] we've seen uh there is an obesity crisis

[03:11] in the United States there is a military

[03:13] Readiness crisis because the lack of

[03:16] folks that can enter the military based

[03:18] on physical fitness and I think a

[03:20] secretary Kennedy and the incoming Trump

[03:23] Administration will do wonders for

[03:26] chronic disease and prevention where

[03:28] historically it's wholly underfunded

[03:31] typically we only fund the disease at

[03:34] the end when you're having to deal with

[03:35] it not when we are um trying to prevent

[03:38] it to begin

[03:40] with so uh the the chances of his

[03:43] nomination hinge on a couple of

[03:45] Republican Senators who I don't think

[03:47] they've really experienced the energy of

[03:50] Maha before let's go through some of

[03:52] Bobby Kennedy's opening remarks here I

[03:54] think they're really dramatic play Cut

[03:56] 133

[03:59] my journey into the issue of Health

[04:01] began with my career as an environmental

[04:04] attorney working with hunters and

[04:07] fishmen and mothers in the small town in

[04:10] the Hudson Valley and along the Hudson

[04:12] River I learned very early on that human

[04:17] health and

[04:19] environmental injuries are intertwined

[04:22] the same chemicals that kill fish make

[04:25] people

[04:28] sick let's continue to to cut

[04:31] 134 today Americans overall health is in

[04:34] Grievous condition over 70% of adults

[04:37] and a third of children are overweight

[04:40] or

[04:41] obese diabetes is 10 times more

[04:43] prevalent than it was during the 1960s

[04:46] cancer among young people is Rising by 1

[04:49] or 2% a year autoimmune diseases

[04:52] neurodevelopmental disorders Alzheimer's

[04:56] asthma

[04:58] ADHD depression addiction and a host of

[05:01] other physical and mental health

[05:03] conditions are all on the rise some of

[05:06] them

[05:09] exponentially and finally let's go to

[05:11] this one here play cut

[05:14] 135 the United States has worse Health

[05:17] than any other developed Nation yet we

[05:19] spend more on Healthcare at least double

[05:21] and in some cases triple as other

[05:25] countries last year we spent 4.8

[05:28] trillion not coun in the indirect cause

[05:31] of missed

[05:34] work what is your reaction to this open

[05:38] the opening statement of Bobby Kennedy

[05:40] the idea of environmental toxins and how

[05:43] they are polluting both the the planet

[05:47] and not just the planet but the

[05:50] conditions of the people of

[05:53] America well what's interesting is that

[05:56] he's speaking directly to Democrats with

[05:58] that conversation um and public health

[06:00] those are topics considered under social

[06:02] determinance of Health which are L held

[06:05] you know parts of the democratic

[06:07] platform around public health and so I

[06:10] would think those types of conversations

[06:12] are basically a reach across the aisle

[06:15] that says hey we've worked together on

[06:17] issues like this before and they've not

[06:19] traditionally been some of the

[06:21] Republican issues in how we've

[06:22] approached public health so with that

[06:26] why why are you against me now when

[06:28] you've been working with me on all of

[06:30] these topics before I think it's a it's

[06:32] a reach across the aisle but it's also

[06:34] to point out the you know disingenuous

[06:36] nature of this hearing which will turn

[06:39] into multiple attacks on a variety of

[06:42] public health issues when I think in

[06:44] many ways RFK is probably the best

[06:47] secretary that the Democrats could ever

[06:49] hope

[06:52] for let's let's close here by playing

[06:54] cut 136 136

[06:56] please for a long time the nation has

[07:00] been locked in a divisive Health Care

[07:02] debate about who

[07:03] pays well when health care costs reach

[07:06] 20% there are no good options only bad

[07:11] ones Shifting the burden around between

[07:13] government and corporations and insurers

[07:16] and providers and families is like

[07:19] rearranging deck chairs on the

[07:21] Titanic our country will sink Beneath

[07:24] the Sea of desperation and debt if we

[07:27] don't change the course and ask I our

[07:30] healthc care cost so high in the first

[07:35] place closing thoughts

[07:38] David you know I think the most powerful

[07:40] thing that RFK has said in his opening

[07:42] is healthy people have a Thousand Dreams

[07:45] sick people have one with that I think

[07:49] the United States needs a secretary of

[07:51] Health that's willing to challenge

[07:54] everything um from the traditional

[07:57] conceived Notions of Public Health to

[08:00] how industry has gotten his hands over

[08:02] the economics of Health in the United

[08:04] States I look forward to the many great

[08:06] things that President Trump and

[08:08] secretary Kennedy will do when

[08:11] confirmed thank you David really

[08:12] appreciate it thanks for your time today

[08:15] yeah have a great

[08:17] day email us freedom Charle kirk.com I

[08:20] want to reiterate Something Mike

[08:24] Pence is raising money from

[08:26] pharmaceutical companies to try to go up

[08:28] against Bobby Ken

[08:30] I hope you all understand that that Mike

[08:32] Pence is raising money to go run ads

[08:36] against the nomination and confirmation

[08:38] of Bobby Kennedy we are a sick obese

[08:42] medicated alcohol addicted drug

[08:45] addicted slovenly

[08:49] country it's time for us to have a

[08:52] public health

[08:53] authority that understands that what you

[08:55] eat is who you

[08:57] become organic food

[09:00] getting proper vitamin D you do not need

[09:02] a pill for every

[09:05] ill and Bobby Kennedy will do a

[09:08] phenomenal job as Secretary of Health

[09:10] and Human Services he will do a

[09:12] phenomenal

[09:13] job and for any Republican senator out

[09:16] there if you vote against Bobby Kennedy

[09:18] there will be primaries there is a force

[09:20] behind Bobby Kennedy likes of which you

[09:22] have never experienced before