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A Small Step in the Right Direction
Congressman Chip Roy joined the show to explain what happened during the dramatic House floor vote on the budget resolution. Roy, who serves on both the Budget Committee and the Rules Committee, described the bill as "a very small step but an important step in the right direction." The legislation sets a floor for spending restraint, reducing the growth of spending by approximately $1.5 trillion over ten years. However, Roy emphasized this is not actual cuts yet—it's reductions in the rate of increase.
"Let me be very clear, this is Washington speak," Roy explained. "This is actually reductions in increases. We are not yet to the point where we've embraced the need to have the cuts that reduce the spending. DOGE is doing that, we need to in Congress." The bill ties spending restraint to tax policy, ensuring President Trump's tax cuts are extended while providing additional tax relief, all while aiming to reduce deficits.
Why Republicans Can't Just Return to Pre-COVID Spending
When asked why Congress can't simply return to pre-COVID spending levels of around $4.5 trillion instead of the current $7 trillion, Roy gave a blunt assessment: "There's two reasons. One, members of Congress don't have the courage, and two, DOGE hasn't illuminated as many things that we need to cut yet that I think we're going to be able to cut."
Roy explained that the bill passed reduces increases in spending by only $150 to $200 billion per year compared to current $7 trillion annual spending. At the end of the ten-year budget window, the government will have spent $84 trillion while taking in only about $60 trillion in revenue, adding roughly $20 trillion to the national debt.
"I'm not painting a great picture yet, am I?" Roy acknowledged. "I had very serious reservations about moving this bill, but here's why it was important: it set the stage with a floor of spending restraint, it opened the door to reforming Medicaid, which we must do because it is currently being used to scam taxpayers to give money to able-bodied Americans and illegal aliens at the expense of those who need it the most."
The USAID Vote That Revealed Republican Division
Roy highlighted a telling example of the challenge facing fiscal conservatives. In the fall of 2023, Congressman Eli Crane from Arizona offered an amendment to cut USAID funding by 50%. While 102 Republicans voted for it, 114 Republicans voted against it.
"All of us conservatives knew that USAID was bad," Roy said. "But because of DOGE, I think that vote today would be different. This is what we're up against." Roy pointed to inflation caused by Biden's policies, particularly energy policies and massive spending, as partly responsible for the jump from $4.5 trillion to $7 trillion in annual spending. For context, he noted that total federal spending in 1987 was just $1 trillion.
Medicaid Reform: Political Poison or Moral Imperative?
One of the most contentious aspects of the budget discussion involves entitlement reform, particularly Medicaid. Roy argued passionately for Medicaid reform, explaining that the program was originally designed to help the disabled and those who are not able-bodied.
"After Obamacare, able-bodied Americans were given a higher federal matching rate—90% of the dollars that go from the feds to fund Medicaid—a higher rate for the able-bodied expansion population," Roy explained. "I think that's wrong. It is being gamed by California, it is being gamed by other states to funnel money so they can get federal money while they overly expand the population."
Roy contrasted this with states like Texas that didn't expand Medicaid and therefore don't receive the same federal funding. He emphasized the need to ensure that able-bodied individuals and illegal aliens are removed from Medicaid rolls, freeing up resources for those who genuinely need assistance.
Trump's Promise: Not Touching Entitlements
President Trump made clear statements about entitlements during a press conference, saying, "Read my lips, we're not going to touch it." He emphasized that while Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid would not be cut, his administration would aggressively pursue fraud in these programs.
"We are going to look for fraud," Trump said. "Like people that shouldn't be on it, people that are illegal aliens and others, criminals in many cases. With Social Security, we have a lot of people—you see that immediately when you see people that are 200 years old that are being sent checks for Social Security."
When asked whether the budget can be balanced without touching entitlements, Roy acknowledged the challenge but expressed optimism: "We can absolutely balance the budget with the combination of all of those things. The president is correct that we must have economic growth, we must have spending restraint, we must have cuts that will eliminate waste and fraud."
What Happens Next in the Budget Process
Looking ahead, Roy outlined the next steps in the legislative process. The Senate must now review the House version of the budget. The Senate had previously sent over a "skinnier" version focused on border security and defense. Roy expects the Senate will try to expand the tax side of the legislation to make tax cuts more permanent, which he supports—with a critical condition.
"I support that, comma, however, provided they also expand the spending restraint side," Roy said. "We've got to do our part, we've got to be honest, we've got to do math. The singular objective should be to reduce deficits immediately, not based on some future promises."
Once the House and Senate align their budget resolutions, the actual work of reconciliation begins, where Congress votes on specific measures related to tax policy and spending. Roy made clear his requirements for supporting the final package: "We must reduce deficits, we must bring down spending, and we've got to embrace DOGE on the discretionary side and make sure that we deliver reduced deficits."
The Drama on the House Floor
Roy acknowledged there was "theater" during the floor vote, with some colleagues on the right flank demanding more spending cuts. Representatives like Victoria Spartz and Warren Davidson pushed for additional spending restraint, which Roy said would likely yield good results.
"You know what? I did too," Roy said about wanting more cuts. "But I had already basically given my word in order to move this through committee to get the floor in the spending restraint and the tie of tax policy."
The bill ultimately passed the House, setting the stage for negotiations with the Senate and the detailed reconciliation process to come. Roy concluded with a call for courage and mathematical honesty from his colleagues: "Our budget yesterday was only a step. It didn't get the job done. We have more work to do."
Video Transcript
[00:00] without further Ado I want to bring in
[00:01] representative chip Roy there was a lot
[00:03] of action on the house floor last night
[00:06] uh Congressman Roy thank you so much for
[00:08] making the time here I you are one of
[00:10] the leaders on this uh what I call
[00:13] fiscal sanity bringing reigning in this
[00:16] uh addiction to spending within the
[00:18] house Congressman genuinely for for
[00:21] Americans all across the country thank
[00:22] you for being such a loud voice on this
[00:25] tell us what happened last night bring
[00:26] us up to speed there was a lot of you
[00:28] know theater last night uh tell us what
[00:32] happened yeah first of all great to be
[00:34] on great to be on the show uh and yeah
[00:37] proud to get out there and try to fight
[00:39] for some level of fiscal sanity I would
[00:40] tell you that I think what we passed
[00:42] last night out of the House of
[00:43] Representatives was a very small step
[00:45] but an important step in the right
[00:47] direction what we did and what we passed
[00:49] out of the budget committee on which I
[00:51] serve and the rules committee on which I
[00:52] serve and then the house floor is we set
[00:55] a floor of spending Restraint of
[00:57] spending reductions now let me be very
[00:58] clear this is why Washington speak this
[01:01] is actually reductions and increases we
[01:03] are not yet to the point where we've
[01:05] embraced the need you know the need to
[01:07] have the cuts that reduce the spending
[01:10] doge is doing that we need to in
[01:12] Congress what we passed yesterday was a
[01:15] reduction in increases in spending of
[01:17] about1 a half trillion dollars a floor
[01:20] we can go higher we should so we
[01:22] actually get to cuts and but that we set
[01:25] that floor in place and we tied that to
[01:27] the tax policy we tied that to extending
[01:31] president Trump's tax cuts and then
[01:33] being able to provide additional tax
[01:35] relief but we put them together so that
[01:38] we can basically be responsible to
[01:39] ensure deficits will go down we're not
[01:42] where we need to be yet but it was a
[01:43] step when you passed the budget now the
[01:46] Senate has to do it once we get those
[01:48] aligned then we have to do the actual
[01:50] work of reconciliation where we do all
[01:53] of the votes on the specific measures
[01:55] the tax policy and the spending my
[01:58] requirement to my colleagues is we must
[02:00] reduce deficits we must bring down
[02:02] spending and we've got to embrace Doge
[02:04] and the discretionary side and make sure
[02:06] that we deliver reduced deficits this
[02:08] was a step forward and the drama was
[02:10] there were a few of my colleagues mostly
[02:12] on the right flank uh who wanted more
[02:15] and you know what I did too but I had
[02:17] already basically given my word in order
[02:18] to move this through committee to get
[02:20] the the floor in the spending restraint
[02:22] and the tie of tax policy so a few
[02:24] others fought for some more good things
[02:26] I think we'll get some good results out
[02:28] of Victoria and Warren Davidson and
[02:29] others that demanded more more spending
[02:32] restraint okay so you I mean you got to
[02:35] the heart of the matter where a lot of
[02:36] people talk about spending cuts but what
[02:38] they really mean is reductions in the
[02:40] growth of spending now we we've heard a
[02:43] lot of talk about getting budgets back
[02:46] to preco levels I on a very fundamental
[02:50] level why is that not every Republican
[02:53] in Congress first instinct I mean the
[02:57] the the budget expanded what happened to
[02:59] that money where did it it go why can we
[03:01] not get back to the four or5 trillion do
[03:03] a year spending just educate our
[03:05] audience in a very Washington way why
[03:08] can we not just simply say hey we didn't
[03:10] need that money you know the last couple
[03:12] years we were happy with four and a half
[03:14] $5 trillion do worth of spending why
[03:15] can't we just go
[03:17] back yeah well there's two reasons one
[03:19] members of Congress don't have the
[03:20] courage and two Doge hasn't illuminated
[03:24] as many things that we need to cut uh
[03:26] yet that I think we're going to be able
[03:28] to cut and I think that's going to
[03:29] happen
[03:30] uh a lot of these things are things we
[03:31] know but until Doge puts it out there
[03:33] it's harder to get some of my friends in
[03:35] Congress to have the courage to go cut
[03:38] so what does this mean you pointed out
[03:40] so for the average viewer out there and
[03:41] I think Charlie's talked about this too
[03:44] pre-co we were spending about four and a
[03:45] half trillion doll this year we're at 7
[03:48] trillion now let me put in context what
[03:50] we passed last night we passed a bill
[03:53] that will simply reduce the increase in
[03:56] spending by about $150 to $200 billion a
[03:59] year year that is compared to a $7
[04:02] trillion current spend at the end of the
[04:05] 10-year budget window we will have spent
[04:07] $84 trillion we will have taken in about
[04:11] 60s something trillion dollar for a
[04:13] rough increase in the deficit more debt
[04:16] of20 trillion I'm not painting a great
[04:19] picture yet am I I had very serious
[04:22] reservations about moving this bill but
[04:25] here's why it was important it set the
[04:27] stage with a floor of spending restraint
[04:29] it opened the door to reforming Medicaid
[04:32] which we must do because it is currently
[04:34] being used to scam taxpayers to give
[04:37] money to able-bodied Americans and
[04:38] illegal aliens at the expense of those
[04:40] who need it the most we need to reform
[04:43] it my colleagues are afraid of that or
[04:44] wrong and we need to hold uh our
[04:47] colleagues accountable and discretionary
[04:49] to take the Doge Cuts Like usaid and
[04:52] Implement them let me remind you Eli
[04:55] crane my conservative friend from
[04:56] Arizona offered an amendment because all
[04:58] of us knew all of us conservatives knew
[05:00] that usaid was bad he offered an
[05:02] amendment to cut it by 50% Republicans
[05:05] voted for it 102 Republicans voted for
[05:08] it 114 Republicans voted against it that
[05:11] was in the fall of 23 because of Doge I
[05:14] think that vote today would be different
[05:16] but this is what we're up against I'm
[05:18] answering your question in a long form
[05:20] that's why it's a problem we have two
[05:22] and a half TR you ask why it went up
[05:24] part of that's inflation because of the
[05:26] ridiculous policies under Biden the
[05:28] energy policies the big spending
[05:30] and then it's the spending and all of
[05:32] that raised it from 4 and a half to 7
[05:33] trillion keep in mind the total spend in
[05:36] 1987 was a trillion dollar it was 4 and
[05:39] a half trillion in 2019 it's already up
[05:42] to 7 trillion we've got to act the
[05:45] Senate's going to have to stand up work
[05:47] with us to actually embrace additional
[05:49] spending
[05:50] restraint yeah and and I think you you
[05:53] hit on a really important piece here
[05:55] this is the Medicaid Medicare Social
[05:57] Security piece of it the entitlements
[05:59] piece of it was which is considered
[06:02] political poison for anybody to try
[06:05] reforming it right and I know we're
[06:06] going to try and focus on the waste
[06:09] Fraud and Abuse that is certainly in in
[06:12] that those programs just moments ago
[06:14] president Trump uh commented on this
[06:17] let's go ahead and play Cut
[06:20] 181 bill that passed last night aims to
[06:23] cut two trillion dollar can you
[06:24] guarantee that Medicare Medicaid Social
[06:27] Security will not be touched yeah I I me
[06:29] I have said it so many times you
[06:31] shouldn't be asking me that question
[06:33] okay this will not be read my lips it
[06:36] won't be read my lips anymore uh we're
[06:39] not going to touch it now we are going
[06:41] to look for fraud I'm sure you're okay
[06:43] with that like people that shouldn't be
[06:45] on people that are illegal aliens and
[06:48] others criminals in many cases uh and
[06:51] that's with Social Security we have a
[06:53] lot of people you see that immediately
[06:55] when you see people that are 200 years
[06:56] old that are being sent checks for
[06:59] Social Security some of them are
[07:01] actually being sent check so we're
[07:03] tracing that down and I have a feeling
[07:05] that Pam is going to do a very good job
[07:06] with that but you have a lot of fraud
[07:09] but no I'm not we're not doing anything
[07:11] on this so he is adamant we're not going
[07:14] to touch
[07:15] entitlements I mean I hate to put put
[07:17] you on the spot here Congressman but
[07:20] earlier in that press conference he said
[07:21] we're going to balance the budget and I
[07:23] have to assume that he's talking about
[07:25] balancing the budget through rooting out
[07:26] waste Fraud and Abuse and growth because
[07:30] uh but can you do it can you can you
[07:32] balance this budget without touching
[07:35] entitlements so first of all we we can
[07:38] absolutely balance the budget with the
[07:39] combination of all of those things right
[07:41] the president is correct that we must
[07:43] have economic growth we must have
[07:45] spending restraint which I think the
[07:47] president has agreed said we must have
[07:48] cuts that that will eliminate waste
[07:50] broaden abuse he talks about you
[07:52] repealing the massive subsidies under
[07:53] the inflation reduction act um those
[07:55] things are absolutely true um we also
[07:58] need to get rid of the regulatory state
[07:59] that is constraining economic growth
[08:01] right and those things are impeding
[08:03] Americans being able to go produce well
[08:05] but what I would say to this is we have
[08:06] an obligation and a duty to reform
[08:09] Medicaid why because it was designed as
[08:12] a program to help those who are disabled
[08:15] uh and frankly the people who are not
[08:17] able-bodied right that's how it was
[08:18] designed we have a duty to the extent
[08:21] tax dollars are going to be committed to
[08:22] that end then we have a duty to make
[08:24] sure that's what it's what's done most
[08:27] Americans don't know that after Obama
[08:29] care able-bodied Americans were given a
[08:32] higher Federal matching rate a higher
[08:35] rate 90% the dollars that go from the
[08:37] feds to go say we're going to go fund
[08:39] Medicaid a higher rate for the
[08:41] able-bodied expansion population on
[08:43] Obamacare I think that's wrong it is
[08:46] being gained by California it is being
[08:48] gamed by other states for basically to
[08:51] funnel money so they can get Federal
[08:53] money while they overly expand the
[08:55] population whereas other states like
[08:56] Texas that didn't expand we're not we
[08:59] don't have as High a number so we've got
[09:00] to fix it we got to make sure that only
[09:02] the able-bodied that the able-bodied
[09:04] aren't on it and the illegal aliens
[09:05] aren't on it and that would be the
[09:07] reforms we need to put in place and we
[09:08] can do it well I I think that's smart
[09:10] and by the way I I do believe there's a
[09:11] lot of potential for growth uh Revenue
[09:13] growth and you know Trump's announcing
[09:15] this gold card for $5 million I actually
[09:17] think that's kind of smart especially if
[09:19] we could sort of Reform some of our
[09:20] other uh broken immigration policies uh
[09:23] I want to give you the opportunity
[09:24] though uh Congressman Roy uh we've got
[09:27] about 45 seconds here what happened next
[09:30] in this budget process and I agree these
[09:31] are some big wins putting that floor on
[09:34] on spending that we can go higher is key
[09:36] what happens next well the Senate's
[09:38] going to have to now look at our product
[09:40] they they've sent a version over their
[09:42] version which was a skinnier one to deal
[09:43] with border and defense they're going to
[09:45] look at ours they're going to try to
[09:46] figure out what they're going to do my
[09:47] guess is they're going to try to expand
[09:49] the tax side of it make them more
[09:50] permanent I support that comma however
[09:54] provided they also expand the spending
[09:57] restraint side we've got to do are part
[10:00] we've got to be honest we've got to do
[10:01] math and the singular objective should
[10:03] be to reduce deficits immediately not
[10:06] based on some future promises and our
[10:08] budget yesterday was only a step it
[10:11] didn't get the job done we had more work
[10:12] to do well Congressman I know that you
[10:15] are one of the good guys in there
[10:16] fighting Charlie has your back we have
[10:18] your back thank you for all your hard
[10:19] work you're doing there cut more cut
[10:22] deeper as Mr Wonderful's telling Doge we
[10:24] tell you the same thing thank you sir
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