Erin Molan on Charlie Kirk's Legacy and the Religious Revival Sweeping the West

[00:00] Yeah. Haven't they? Haven't they just I

[00:03] I want to talk to you about Charlie Kirk

[00:07] and we're talking a lot about choosing

[00:10] hope and and to look at things in a

[00:12] positive light.

[00:14] This resurgence of people wanting to

[00:17] talk about God and religion and

[00:19] conservative family values and all the

[00:21] things that he cared so deeply about.

[00:24] Have you seen that in your experience?

[00:25] you guys are. So, I I was looking at

[00:28] some of your stats and and the groups

[00:31] that you you uh attract essentially and

[00:33] the people that consume your content and

[00:35] a lot of them are very young. I

[00:37] sometimes get worried because when I

[00:38] look at the average age of my viewers,

[00:40] they're like 70 and I love all of my

[00:42] 70-year-old fans, but you you seem to be

[00:45] able to tap into that youth. What what

[00:47] kind of feedback are you getting? And

[00:48] are you confident in the future,

[00:50] particularly off the back of what seems

[00:52] to be a resurgence in the things that

[00:54] make the West good?

[00:56] >> Yeah. Well, first of all, I do think

[00:57] that there has been a religious revival

[01:00] since the assassination of of Charlie

[01:02] Kirk. And I'll say one more thing about

[01:04] Charlie Kirk. There is something that

[01:06] you're seeing all over social media now,

[01:08] and that is that everybody is claiming

[01:10] that Charlie was their best friend. And

[01:12] I I think it really says a lot about

[01:14] Charlie and not about the best friends.

[01:16] Uh, you know, I have this dream that

[01:18] every single one of my kids will say

[01:20] that when they grow up that I thought

[01:23] that they were my favorite child.

[01:25] >> And Charlie had that ability to make

[01:26] every single one of us feel like we're

[01:28] his best friend. He always responded to

[01:30] the text messages and and all of that.

[01:33] And I I think that is just so amazing.

[01:35] And the other amazing

[01:36] >> Can I stop you there? And I hate

[01:38] interrupting, but what you've just said

[01:40] is so profound because a lot of the

[01:43] criticism of so many people coming out

[01:44] and saying he was my best friend is

[01:46] people are saying you're just trying to

[01:47] jump off the back of something that's

[01:49] happened and trying to make yourself

[01:50] feel important. You've just given a

[01:52] completely different perspective. Maybe

[01:53] Charlie actually made every single one

[01:55] of those people feel like they were his

[01:57] best friend.

[01:58] >> Yeah.

[01:59] powerful,

[01:59] >> you know, and I have to give credit to

[02:01] to Dennis Prager on that one because,

[02:03] you know, de Dennis has shared stories

[02:05] with me about, you know, friends that go

[02:07] to funerals and they they uh walk around

[02:09] and they ask people like, you know, and

[02:12] the children of of the deceased person,

[02:14] like, you know, tell me something about

[02:16] your parent and and and and so I I've

[02:18] certainly learned that from Dennis and I

[02:21] think it is profound. And and and

[02:23] speaking of Dennis, the relationship

[02:25] that Charlie Kirk and Dennis Prager had

[02:26] is You know, I don't know how many of

[02:29] your listeners know this, but Charlie's

[02:31] most recent book is about it's it's

[02:34] called Stop in the Name of God, and it's

[02:35] about the Sabbath. The last time I saw

[02:38] Charlie was actually Charlie kept

[02:40] visiting Dennis Prager at the hospital,

[02:42] and he would always show up with the

[02:43] Bible and Dennis's Torah commentary. The

[02:46] last time I saw him, he actually dropped

[02:48] off his manuscripts with with Dennis and

[02:51] dedicated his his book to Dennis.

[02:53] Charlie was preoccupied with goodness.

[02:55] He was not preoccupied with politics

[02:57] over the last few months because he

[02:59] realized that we are in a huge fight of

[03:01] good versus evil and he really was

[03:04] wrestling with how do we win? How do we

[03:06] win for for good? And so one more note

[03:09] about Charlie and this religious revival

[03:11] that we are seeing in the United States

[03:14] of America and you know really around

[03:15] the world and and that is I believe that

[03:18] this religious revival is is twofold.

[03:22] One part of it is that people are

[03:24] realizing that they've had a god-sized

[03:26] hole in their hearts and they have been

[03:28] filling in that god-sized hole with all

[03:31] kinds of other ism isms whether it's

[03:33] environmentalism or transgenderism or

[03:36] whatever other isms. Uh but humans by

[03:39] nature need meaning in their lives. We

[03:42] need food and we need meaning. And when

[03:44] you take God out of people's lives, they

[03:46] will find something else to pursue and

[03:49] to worship. And that's what we have seen

[03:51] very much so in the west. And I I think

[03:53] that has been this vacuum that Charlie

[03:55] had been so obsessed with trying to

[03:58] provide people with answers. And the

[04:01] other thought that I had after the

[04:03] murder of of Charlie Kirk and I I

[04:05] chatted with his wife Erica

[04:08] um after the memorial. I said to her,

[04:10] you know, isn't this interesting that

[04:13] now the three largest youthoriented

[04:16] organizations in the United States of

[04:18] America are now run by women.

[04:21] >> Think about that for a minute.

[04:23] >> Erica Kirk runs Turning Point USA.

[04:26] >> Uh Marissa, I run PragerU because Dennis

[04:30] sadly is in the hospital. And Jordan

[04:33] Peterson hasn't been feeling well and

[04:35] he's been sidelined in the hospital. And

[04:37] Michaela Peterson has been stepping in.

[04:39] And I actually texted with Michaela a

[04:40] few days ago and I said, "Have you

[04:42] noticed what I've noticed?"

[04:43] >> And so when I say that God works in

[04:45] mysterious ways, we don't understand

[04:47] what he is doing, but there is something

[04:49] worth noting. There's something more

[04:52] worth noting. It is so easy to notice

[04:54] the darkness. But but Erin, let's look

[04:56] at the light for one second. There has

[04:58] been a direct attack on the children of

[05:00] the West.

[05:01] >> We our children have been under attack.

[05:04] Whether it's the COVID lockdowns or it's

[05:07] been the education system that is

[05:09] collapsing or the transgenderism and and

[05:13] telling kids to, you know, not be

[05:14] comfortable in their own bodies.

[05:16] Whatever it is, our children have been

[05:18] under attack and the moms have been

[05:20] sitting on the sidelines. They have been

[05:22] sitting on It has been shocking to me

[05:25] that so many moms have not been fighting

[05:27] against the transgenderism movement. And

[05:29] it it is almost always the mom that

[05:32] pushes the child to get onto the puberty

[05:34] blockers and the surgeries. And this is

[05:37] something that has been very noticeable

[05:39] in the United States. And Charlie was

[05:41] very concerned about this transgenderism

[05:43] movement that has been really focused on

[05:45] young people. Look, when you're an

[05:47] adult, do whatever you want. But when

[05:48] you're a child, this idea that you're

[05:51] wise enough to pick your own gender,

[05:53] really, Erin, do you think that you were

[05:55] wiser when you were 10 years old than

[05:57] you are today?

[05:59] I did not I did not know myself at 22,

[06:03] let alone at 5, let alone at 12, let

[06:06] alone at 18. It is insanity.

[06:09] >> It's in it. It It is more than insanity.

[06:11] It is absolutely dangerous. It is

[06:14] dangerous. Nobody who is listening to

[06:16] this will will be able to say to me that

[06:18] they were wiser than when they were a

[06:20] child than they are today. How are we

[06:22] letting children chemically castrate

[06:25] themselves? How are we letting them do

[06:27] this kind of irreversible dance

[06:29] >> and not only letting them but

[06:30] encouraging them, fostering it, making

[06:34] it easier? It's just

[06:36] >> we made a culture out of it. We made a

[06:38] culture out of this transgenderism

[06:40] religion and that's what Charlie was

[06:42] talking about that day in Utah when he

[06:46] was there. That's what he went to speak

[06:48] about in college campus. And my first

[06:50] comment to Erica Kirk the day after

[06:53] memorial the memorial of Charlie Kirk is

[06:55] that I hope now that the moms will wake

[06:58] up because it's been almost always the

[07:01] mom who's been okay with this

[07:03] transgenderism. It is almost never the

[07:05] father. Let's be honest about it. Let's

[07:08] be honest about it. And so maybe all of

[07:11] this horrible stuff that has been

[07:12] happening in the West and the and the

[07:14] death of Charlie Kirk, maybe this will

[07:17] be that moment that women will wake up

[07:19] and maybe this is the God's hand in

[07:21] saying the mama bears, the mama bears,

[07:24] we need you in the so in our society and

[07:27] you need to go back to who you are. You

[07:28] need to go back to your maternal

[07:30] instinct and start protecting children

[07:33] and help teach kids to discern good

[07:37] versus evil. The fight that we are

[07:39] fighting right now is a fight of good

[07:41] versus e evil. Whether it's terrorism

[07:44] versus Israel or or children's humanity

[07:48] and and nature and innocence versus

[07:52] versus evil and and what is being done

[07:55] to them. All of this is a matter of

[07:57] discernment. It's the chaos. It's the

[07:59] chaos that we're living right now in the

[08:01] West in particular because of what we've

[08:04] been taught and what be we've been

[08:06] teaching in these universities. And so

[08:08] as we get the moms involved now to clear

[08:11] out this chaos, I am becoming more

[08:13] optimistic because I do think that when

[08:16] moms actually lean on their their

[08:18] instincts, right? You you know what that

[08:20] is. When you know that you're free of

[08:22] the shackles of what the politically

[08:24] correct culture is putting on you and

[08:26] you're really leaning into what you know

[08:28] is the truth and you fill in your child

[08:30] with that God-sized hole in their hearts

[08:32] with with real God, with real love, with

[08:35] real then they develop discernment and

[08:38] wisdom and they can tell right from

[08:39] wrong and they will no longer march on

[08:42] college campuses saying that the devils,

[08:46] the Hamas devils, the terrorists should

[08:48] win. They will no longer do that.

[08:50] because you'll have truth.

[08:52] >> It's that it's not even an intervention

[08:54] because it should never get to that. But

[08:57] you instill your child with with what is

[08:59] right and good and natural and normal at

[09:02] a young age. You're not going to have

[09:03] these problems 20 years down the track.

[09:05] The mother thing is key, isn't it? The

[09:07] mother thing is key. I interviewed

[09:09] someone in the UK off the back of their

[09:10] big protests a little while ago and

[09:13] something that really resonated. They

[09:14] made the point to me. They said it was

[09:16] this and that and you know, dads came

[09:18] out and were angry. This is off the back

[09:19] of, you know, crime and and young girls

[09:21] being sexually assaulted in the street.

[09:23] It's just the UK has completely fallen.

[09:25] It's a basket case. But they said things

[09:27] started to shift when the moms got

[09:29] involved in the last 2 or 3 months. The

[09:32] moms are hitting the streets. They're

[09:34] going saying, "Not on my watch.

[09:36] >> Not on my watch." And that it gives me

[09:38] shivers because I mean, we love men, but

[09:41] I mean, if you really want to get

[09:42] something done and get it done

[09:44] effectively and get it done fast, put a

[09:46] mom in charge.

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