John Ondrasik of Five For Fighting Breaks Hollywood Silence on October 7 Terrorism and Media Complicity

Well, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome to the Eron Mullen Show. It is great to have your company as always. Thank you so much for for tuning in wherever you are around the world and however you watch or listen to this show. We appreciate you so so much. As always, I'll get to headlines in just a second and get you across everything you need to know. But first, I want to tell you a little bit about my guest, my main interview today. And his name is John Andraic, lead singer of Five for Fighting. This song, have a listen. >> I'm more than a bird. I'm more than a plane. I'm more than pretty face beside a train. And it's not easy to be healing. [Music] He is amazing. It's one of my favorite songs and he is bucking this Hollywood trend of being a complete woke weak fwit to be completely honest with you. Particularly off the back of the Emmys. That was so embarrassing. the entire thing like getting up to the microphone and just saying f Trump like that's apparently clever or funny and then people in the crowd standing and clapping like someone's just you know solved world peace. You know who's actually doing more for world peace than anyone else in the world? Donald Trump. You want to count how many conflicts he has helped negotiate peace for? He has brought people together, enemies and leaders. Yet you get up there and say, "Frump, then all clap yourselves and turn and like you're clever." No, you're not clever. You're thick as pig beep. It's stupid. It's really, really stupid. It's not funny. It's not quirky. It's not cool. Like, when do they wake up to the fact that that people don't want this anymore? That no one thinks it's impressive? Anyway, I'll get into that in just a little while. I digress. Donald Trump has blasted Ilhan Omar for trying to justify the murder of Charlie Kirk. She is deplorable when she tries to somehow say that his words justified what occurred to him. This was Trump's response. >> Omar after his assassination called Shelik a reprehensible human being. Should she be stripped of her committee assignment? What I would say I think she's a disgraceful person, you know. I think she's a disgraceful person, a loser. Uh it's amazing the way people vote. I know it's people from her area maybe of the world. I don't know. They got here and they voted her in. It's hard to believe, but I think she's a disgusting person. now still on Charlie Kirk and we continue to see some of the most appalling behavior from people attempting to somehow explain why the doing of this is not evil. There is no explanation. Zero. There is no justification. Zero. This was an act of evil. Now Charlie Kirk wanted J. D. Vance to be the next president. He said that many times. He said his next mission was to get JD Vance elected in 2028. JD Vance hosted the first episode of the Charlie Kirk show post his murder. There's a part of it I need you to listen to and it's in full and it is so powerful in the way it so eloquently demonstrates why you cannot achieve unity with this extremist left who celebrate the murder of an innocent man. Have a listen. Have a watch. Shortly after Usha and I left Charlie's family and Charlie's remains in Arizona, I wrote a story in The Nation magazine about my dear friend Charlie Kirk. Now, The Nation isn't a fringe blog. It's a well-funded, wellrespected magazine whose publishing history goes back to the American Civil War. George Soros's Open Society Foundation funds this magazine, as does the Ford Foundation and many other wealthy titans of the American Progressive Movement. The writer accuses Charlie of saying, and I quote, "Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously." But if you go and watch the clip, the very clip she links to, you realize he never said anything like that. He never uttered those words. He made an argument against affirmative action as a policy. He criticized a specific Supreme Court justice as an individual. He never said anything about black women as a group. He made an argument for judging people of all races and backgrounds by their own individual merits. The very evidence she provides, this hack of a writer, shows that she lied about a dead man. And yet she wrote it. An esteemed magazine published it. It made it through the editors. And of course, liberal billionaires rewarded that attack. Now, of course, even if Charlie had uttered those words, it wouldn't mean that he deserved his fate. But consider the level of propaganda at work. Charlie was gunned down in broad daylight, and wellunded institutions of the left lied about what he said. so as to justify his murder. This is soulless and evil. But I was struck not just by the dishonesty of the smear, but by the glee over a young husband's and young father's death. Quote, she says, he was an unrepentant racist, transphobe, homophobe, and misogynist. The nation wrote, "Who often wrapped his bigotry in Bible verses because there was no other way to pretend that it was morally correct. He had children as do many vile people." That's what they said. He had children as do many vile people. >> This whole let's call for unity, let's come together, etc., etc. That works when people on both sides are normal, are rational, are not filled with hate. Because most normal people in the world can look at something, disagree with someone else, and not want to kill them. That's how normal people are. The radical extreme left are not normal. They're not. How do you unify with people who think it's okay to pop a bullet into the neck of someone they disagree with? And even if they're they're not capable or they're not willing to do it themselves, they'll then celebrate the sick the sicko who did. Show me how you're ever meant to share and break bread with people who think that's okay. You can't. You can't. Tucker Carlson was also on the show which I I mean I didn't enjoy that part of it to be entirely honest. I know I said I was just going to ignore Tucker Carlson but you know even at at stages he his attempts to try and demonize Israel and the Jew like even in this moment he couldn't stop himself. You think Charlie Kirk would have wanted that? I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't have thought so. It's it's really fascinating actually now you you're looking at this kind of posturing that's occurring in the leadup to the next election and yes we're not even a year in to Trump's second term but it really is this kind of unspoken well amongst them JD Vance v Marco Rubio and it seems to be fairly split as to who believes would make the next president would be the best option as the Republican candidate JD Van I mean incredible human being obviously uh the way he's turned his own life into something extraordinary is amazing and he he's obviously very decent good person I I have a lot of respect for him but I can't help but lean more towards Marco Rubio in terms of who I think would be better in that position and look this may shift and change uh I think for me one of the things I I didn't really enjoy was was when JD Vance was in the Oval Office and Valet Zalinski was in there and just the couple of times that JD Vance chimed in, it just it felt off to me. I I didn't I didn't particularly enjoy his contribution in that forum. And I'm not saying that, you know, the administration wasn't correct in putting pressure on Zilinsky in different ways and and you know, whatever the purpose of that was, I'm sure that there's, you know, there's reasoning behind it, but I just kind of when I watched that interaction, I didn't like it. I didn't like the you haven't even said thank you. You know, I I look at at Silinsky, who is by no means perfect, but I look at Ukraine, a nation who were illegally invaded by Russia, by a dictatorous warlord. And yes, I understand America doesn't want to continually give so much money when Europe is basically sitting on their hands. And I know that's not entirely accurate, but America was doing the lion share, it appeared. I just didn't feel like that was the right way to go about it. So that in some ways I turned a little bit off JD Vance just seeing that interaction of of what I considered to have been the way to conduct oneself in that environment. But you know I mean we've got a couple 2 three years before things start to get really serious in that space. I mean I'm sure they already are behind the scenes in terms of rallying support etc etc. But be very interesting to see how Donald Trump manages this. two of the most important people in his administration both clearly with their eye on that main prize and how he manages to and he's already you know he says little things about Marco Rubio about this is the perfect job for you just this one here and this one only and and JD Vance I'm sure part of him joining Donald Trump in this was you know I don't know necessarily whether you'd call it a promise but the commitment from Trump that he would then support him for 2028 but it's gosh it would be a difficult job trying to manage all of that, but we'll watch it play out. Marco Rubio was in Israel. He still is in Israel and he and uh BB Netanyahu did a press conference and there was one part of it that I was really impressed by because this is, you know, the striking Qatar. We spoke about this on the show a lot yesterday. I really didn't like this whole kind of linking between did they actually get the Hamas leaders or didn't they? It's a failure if they didn't. No. No, it wasn't a failure if they didn't get the Hamas leaders because it it it was bigger than that. What it said to every not just terrorists around the world, but every nation who harbors them was we can get you and we will. Not only do we have the willingness to strike, we've got the capability to. And those two things combined, willingness and capability, that is key. You might have capability, but you don't have the guts. Or you might have willingness, but you don't have the means. Israel has both. So, they could have struck a a rock in Qatar, and it wouldn't have mattered. What it says is we will find you and we will act. That's not a failure by any stretch of the imagination. But but Netanyahu was asked at this press conference a question regarding whether or not they would do it again. Have a watch. >> Mr. Prime Minister Robbie Grammer with the Wall Street Journal. Um just to put a finer point on it, would you rule out further strikes on Hamas operatives in foreign sovereign countries in the region? And for Secretary Rubio, what's your message to close US allies like the UK, which you plan to visit, on the vote um at the United Nations to advance a Palestinian state, not just to nations overall, but some of our closest allies like the UK. Thanks. >> The uh principle that terrorists should not have immunity wherever they are, wherever they may be, uh was not established by me. We had a massacre a few decades ago. It's called the Munich massacre in which uh PLO terrorists murdered our athletes to the Olympic games. And my predecessor goldir vowed that we shall track down these terrorists and get them one by one which is what we proceeded to do in the leading European countries. And we did this one by one by one. uh I didn't hear a great cry of uh wrongdoing to these countries. Even though they weren't harboring terrorists, they just the terrorists were there. Okay? They didn't even harbor them as is the case in other cases. The terrorists happen to be on that soil and we acted which is what uh democracies do including the leading democracy when they have the ability to target terrorists who threaten the their civilians. So this is a principle we established. It's a principle we follow. It hasn't changed. >> Yeah. I mean, there's no mincing of words there, is there? That's leadership. That is leadership. Donald Trump has put out a post. Now, I'm going to read it for you directly. I have just read a news report that Hamas has moved the hostages above ground to use them as human shields against Israel's ground offensive. I hope the leaders of Hamas know what they are getting into. if they do such a thing. This is a human atrocity the likes of which few people have ever seen before. Don't let this happen or all bets are off. Release all hostages now. This is the moment. This is the moment. We We can't continually have posts on Truth Social that say absolutely the right thing, but we can't continually give last chances to evil terrorists who don't care about life or consequences. But do they do they the ones on the ground who are killing themselves maybe don't but the ones who are living in luxurious billion dollar mansions and and luxury hotels and making a mozzer off the death and suffering of not only the Jewish people and Israelis but of their own people. They care. It's time to pressure them where it hurts. It's time to get Qatar to actually do something tangible and not pretend like they have been. They are pretending. They are firefighter. They are arsonist. Firefighter. Arsonist. Come on. And a much better arsonist than they are firefighter. I give you the nod. They control everything. If they want the hostages out, they're out. Now, I understand the complexities. I get it. I really do. But come on. We can't do any more last chance warnings or all bets are off warnings without action. And that's what we saw in guitar. So let's see more of it. Rid the world of these evil terrorists. Now, my guest today, one of my favorite singers, sings one of my favorite songs, but also as someone who is determined that he's not going to stand for any more of this BS coming out of Hollywood and Hollywood types that provides protection for terrorists, promotes the evil forces who would seek to destroy everything that we value. the type to get up on stage and say F Trump or Free Palestine and F ICE. This is a man who has decided to use his voice for good and to use his voice for truth. Please enjoy. Uh John, first of all, thank you so so much for joining me here. I'm such a big fan and it's such an honor to have you on the show. So, thank you. >> Well, Erin, it's a pleasure to be with you. You have been such a voice for moral clarity and an inspiration to so many of us. So, let me first start by saying thank you for being you. >> Bless you. Bless you. It's Isn't it utterly ridiculous that we're now at the stage where we have to thank people for just telling the truth? That should be a bare minimum, a base. And now it's Thank you for not lying. Oh my gosh. >> Congratulations for being sane. >> Yeah, I mean, I'll take it. My standards are low. I'll take it. Now, I I want to first start by asking you about one of my favorite songs, Superman. And do you get sick of people asking you about it all the time or bringing it up or are you one of those people who actually go, "No, no, that makes me proud still." >> Well, there's certainly worse things than people asking you about a song that you wrote 26 years ago. Um, and no, I feel very blessed. You know, I had success very late for an aspiring songwriter. I was in my late 20s, early 30s. So to me, you know, to have a few songs that people are singing and talking about and are relevant in the culture. Uh I am truly blessed and grateful and um I never get tired of playing Superman. I never get tired of playing Hundred Years and um I never get tired of pe hearing people sing it back to me, especially because those songs still are relevant in the culture in ways I never could have imagined, frankly. >> At the end of this, can you sing me a little bit of Superman? I'll sing you the whole thing. Whatever you want. >> Oh, that would be amazing. Okay. Amazing. Le let's get into the business side of things before we we finish it on a a much more pleasant note. You have come out and said enough with Hollywood and some of the vile attitudes that are existing there at the moment. Can you explain what was the point where you went, "Okay, I've had I've had it." Well, you know, I've spoken out about a few different issues in the last few years. I wrote a song called Blood on My Hands about the Afghan withdrawal and abandoning our allies and citizens to the Taliban. Uh wrote a song called Kim Woman So the World about the fortitude of Ukrainians standing against the evil that is Putin. But after October 7th, um I didn't write a song because really there are no words to express the the heinous atrocities of that day. But then I started seeing the collapse of so many institutions that you live through. Certainly our media becoming Hamas propagandists, our college campuses run a muck with Marxism, anti-semitism. Um members of Congress literally Hamas allies. But what really saddened me and depressed me the most was the silence of the arts. >> Yeah. >> You know, I I performed at the concert for New York after 911. Every living icon was on that stage condemning Osama bin Laden. We are the business of live aid, Sun City. We stand on the right side of cultural issues. But the silence of the arts, particularly in the music business, particularly from Jewish artists, that broke my heart and it really showed me the rot that has infested not just the culture, but the arts, which I think is one reason where why we are in such a dark place today. >> It's fascinating, isn't it? Because I look at, you know, my own country and I look at the kind of people who are marching next to those waving Hamas flags and, you know, left-leaning in the arts world, apparently feminists, yet they march alongside the flag of an organization who raped, killed, murdered, you know, executed women and children. It it it would make perfect sense for the arts to align themselves with the victims of terrorism. Why is this different? Well, I think certainly I think there's two reasons. I think particularly the younger generation has been indoctrinated with this wokeism, oppressor, oppresse. >> Yeah. >> Um if you're the if you're the perceived oppressor, you're the bad guy. And if you're the oppresse, um no matter what atrocities you you you you implore, even raping the bodies of Jewish women at a peace concert, they seem to look over that. So, I think a lot of it's the indoctrination. um and the fashion of the free Palestine movement. But I think for older artists like me um who know better, I think it's pure cowardice. I've spoken to I've spoken to people in camps of the most iconic artists. Um and I asked them, I'm like, why why won't you say why can't you even say free the hostages? You don't have to love Netanyahu. And they say to me a couple things. They say, "Well, um, we're afraid for our families." And that's true. I think we've certainly seen in the last few days that you should be afraid. Um, but they also say, "We don't want our our our concerts protested. We don't want um people kind of showing up and and you know, you know, doing frankly their their free Palestine movements at our concerts." And I said, "I get it. I've had to increase my security. I, like you, Erin, get the death threats." But I say to them, you know what else? That's exactly what people said in 1938. And they have no answer for me. They just kind of put their heads down and walk away. So I think a lot of it is just pure cowardice. And if they would have spoken out on October 8th, 2023, Bono Springsteen go down the list, I truly believe we wouldn't be here today. Um because the arts is culture. And I'm frankly the culture and the arts 2023 to 2005 is a disgrace that they'll never recover from. >> I agree. entirely clearly and you're so right and I say this about world leaders. I say this, you know, but but in terms of of people with an ability to influence the masses, people who have profiles that aren't famous cuz they're world leaders, people aren't neither here nor there with politicians generally, but for people like Bono, people people adore and cherish these people. So for them to have had the courage to come out and not try to, you know, drive a narrative or blah blah, just tell the truth, show empathy, align themselves with the victims of terrorism, it would have changed the entire thing. I have no doubt. >> I do too. And as you said, you know, music has a way of breaking through walls and >> Yeah. >> and and and allowing people to listen. Um, look, politicians give speeches, people write op-eds. that does not move the cultural needle, but a song can. I was, you know, very >> pleased that our new version of Superman for the hostages came out the same week as Coachella, >> um, which is a rabbid was, as you know, a rabid anti-semitic, you know, Hamas fest. >> Um, because there are so many kids not getting the the other side. And I was really glad that here's a song that people know that's associated with 9/11, the song that was kind of America's tribute to uh those who ran into those buildings. And there was a different narrative and I you know I hear from people like wow people you know that have children who have been indoctrinated they hear that and for the first time they they say tell me about the hostages are nobody really talks about that you know so music and I think a lot of the folks that believe our worldview they don't understand the critical need of the arts to fight this culture war Israel always wins the war they always lose the propaganda war and unless we employ the arts as soft power um to really change this threat to the west. We're going to lose. But very few on our side understand that. >> You you talk about the version of Superman and the song that that became synonymous with 9/11 and the bravery and courage that we saw from so many people. It was obviously the anniversary over the past few days. And I made the point on the show yesterday. I it made me really think about the reaction of the Western world. And yes, there were those in in nations who wish us harm, who celebrated 9/11. But but 99.99% of the Western world who who value freedom, hope, dignity, life, peace, condemned it, it would have been unimaginable for anyone to have tried to justify what occurred or to provide cover for them. Yet, fast forward to another almost exact version of 9/11 on October 7 and the reaction, the rot that we've allowed to occur in universities with young people and social media. To suddenly be in a position when when people in the West are trying to justify something like that is terrifying. The stark difference between reaction then and reaction now. You know, when I was in Israel a little over a year ago, I I was actually there the night I ran bombed for the first time, so I understood what it's like to be Jewish and Israeli. I met with Natan Sharons. >> I was there as well. >> Oh my god. So, we both, you know, we both kind of hit in the safe room. Um, >> yeah. >> I I had a chance to speak with Natan Sheronsky and um actually because he was interested in my Ukraine song. He's Ukrainian and he said something to me that really >> Please explain to my viewers who he is. Non Sheronsky um was imprisoned by the Soviet Union for years for speaking kind of true peace um you know de democracy. He's an icon not just to Jewish people but to freedom lovers. He's written many books. He's in his 70s now and um he's kind of like a Mandela for the Jewish folks, you know, and and uh very wise and Ukrainian. and we were, you know, he had seen my Ukrainian video and he had said something to me that to this day I think is is right to the heart of the matter. Uh he said 2020 years ago somebody asked him what is the greatest threat to Western civilization 20 years ago. And 20 years ago Sheronsky said American academia >> and I think because he lived through it. >> He lived he saw it in Russ. He saw it in the Soviet Union. He saw it in Russia. He saw what was happening. >> It's a carbon copy. >> Carbon copy. And it's not the kids, it's the faculty. The faculty, radical leftists, woke Marxists, hate America. Um, it's not coincidence, you know, we're we're talking the day after the Emmys, um, you know, where where we saw the radical, you know, kind of Hollywood Free Palestiners. Um, it's not a coincidence that the same people cheering the death of Charlie Kirk have a free Palestine logo on their social media. >> 100%. >> It's exactly the same mindset. they they hate everything American, everything Israeli, anything um good for the world because they're the victims. So, I think um again, I think it really starts with American academia. And if we don't address it, if we don't address, it's not just college, it's high school, it's middle school, it's elementary school, we're losing the kids. And if you see the polls, you know, people our age, well, my age, um, you know, they they overwhelmingly support Israel, but if you look at under 35, 30, 25, it's literally 50/50 Hamas. And I'm not talking about Palestine, you know, free Palestine. It's Hamas. So, we're losing the kids, but how do you get to the kids, Aaron? It's the arts. It's the only way. >> Who's let you down the most, do you think, in the arts? Who have you thought I I expected better from you? If you're comfortable to share. >> I you know I expect all of those folks to on the stage with me. You know look Bono said something very early which was nice and then he basically clammed up for the next you know 14 months. And what's the worst nation right now for anti-semitism? What's the worst? It's his. You know it's it's his. Um, Ireland is literally becoming, you know, I don't like to throw the word Nazi around anymore or ever, but it's becoming the seeds of of what we saw in 1938. You know, certainly Springsteen who likes to lecture us about morality and he's supposedly the voice of the heart. Even Barbara Stryand, you know, she said a few things, but if you look, it's it goes well beyond the artist. Look at the most powerful man in Hollywood, Ari Emanuel, um, Ram Ram Emanuel's brother. Um, he's Jewish. Has he said anything? No. You know, he basically I from what I understand is, you know, is involved with Bella Hadid, one of the most, you know, loud uh anti-semitic voices with tens of millions of followers. So, it's not just the the artists, the actors, the musicians. It's the executives, many of who are Jewish. And again, I think that to me, um again, you you can't you look back and you're like, how could the Holocaust ever have happened, right? How could that happen in a civilized world? We're seeing how it happens and it's these cowards in the music industry that are playing a big part of it. >> I remember learning about the Holocaust maybe in year three or four and the evil itself of what occurred was was very difficult to comprehend or understand at that age. But I think what stuck with me and what I I I struggled with more than anything was the silence o of those who witnessed it, who were not prosecuted and persecuted themselves, but didn't speak up or allowed it to happen. And I and it interesting now given the position that I'm in and and the path that I've chosen to go down, not even chosen, it's the path of truth and and doing what is right and standing up for all that is that is good in the world. But you're exactly right. I could not comprehend back then how anyone could allow this evil to occur. I sit here now and I think I get it and how sickening is that? How sickening is that? >> Well, I' I'd be interested in asking you because of course the media has uh been a big part of the Hamas propaganda and that's your world that you've been so successful in. >> How could you ever have imagined? Um, of course there's many leftists in the media, but you know, the media's kind of betrayal of humanity, like I I believe that the arts have betrayed humanity. >> I I think the media has I mean, the arts have been deplorable. >> The media has been worse without any any any doubt. And I think the reason I say that is because, you know, when you're in the arts, you make a choice to involve yourself. And you should when you have a profile and you're in a position where you can influence something uh and you've got fans. Absolutely. But the media's job, their purpose is to inform and to educate and to tell people the truth so they can then come up with however they feel about it. And what we've seen is not even a shift. It's been like a drop off a cliff in that the media now are essentially a mouthpiece for Hamas. So, so in my day when when I was reporting on sports, John, and that that wasn't life or death. I was a sports reporter. If someone told me something or a player told me something, I wouldn't then go on camera and say, "This is, you know, say it as fact. I would go, okay, so he's told me that's his version. Now, I'm going to go and check this, check that, talk to the coach to see if he recalls the conversation in that way. Oh, he's looking for a contract at another club, so maybe he's just exaggerating a little bit to try, you know, all these things go through my mind. So, I wouldn't go on there and say Johnny is being chased by six clubs who all want to pay him $10 million because he's telling me that off the record. I would say, "Oh, it sounds like there's an agenda there. Let me actually check if that's the case. Let me ring the clubs and see this is just sport. It's not life or death. Who cares?" That's what I would do as a little sports reporter in Australia when I got a story to make sure that what I went to air with was the truth. I can say Johnny says blah blah blah. The media don't even do that. They Hamas will say, you know, this D and they'll go in there and say it as fact that this has occurred, not >> a terrorist organization has fed me this. That's one of the biggest things because a lot of people still trust mainstream media. I don't know how, but here in Australia, our national broadcaster, our public broadcaster, will start a bulletin direct quote day 60 and something of Israel's illegal invasion of Gaza. So if you are someone John who is not engaged like you are or or like I am and I choose to be engaged. You live this these are your people that this is this is every second of every day for for you and your people. But for those who feel far away and feel removed they are not going online to then fact check. They are not digging deeper. They allow their narrative to be shaped by that introduction and they walk away. They might just hear 5 seconds of it getting out of the car and they think illegal invasion of Gaza. That's right. I saw that starving child on the new. That is awful. and then they go about their day. That's how dangerous mainstream media is. So these people are not evil or malicious, but they are trusting something that we're meant to be able to trust. And and the BBC and CNN and they are all appalling. They have failed miserably in this way. Miserably. >> Well, congratulations for being a journalist. And uh >> I mean again, now you're saying congratulations for actually doing your job. Like how did the bar get so low? Well, you go like you, I'm not Jewish, you know. I'm not Jewish. I'm just human, you know. I I just Yeah. >> Wait a minute. Stop it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm not Jewish. This is not about a religion. This is about sanity. Yeah. I mean, >> no. No. >> Yeah. I I didn't think I could like you even more. I I assumed you were Jewish. >> Well, that's why people like you and me are important because we're not Jewish. >> Yeah. >> I feel like I'm going to cry. I can't keep crying during >> Oh my gosh. Well, I mean, look, one doesn't have to be Jewish to condemn as evil. One has to be sane, right? >> Like, yes. >> Yes. But I just Oh my gosh. You know, >> you know, that that also goes to where how how broken as a culture we are because if somebody comes out and says common sense things like free the hostages, Hamas is evil, they they automatically assume you're Jewish. Um, which again just shows which really which is really a slight to people who are not Jewish for being silent, for refusing to say common sense things. And that's why it's so important for folks like you, me, Patricia Heaton, go down the list. Um, people who are not Jewish to say common sense things because you're right. I I again I I blame a lot. >> Awful journalist. You just said I was a journalist. I didn't even think to check because from your feed on X and because you're so incredible, I just assume there is no way someone in your position with a profile in Hollywood, a famous singer would enter this if they didn't have to. There is no chance in hell. >> Well, you know, I look at it this way. Look, I I basically participated in res rescuing people from Afghanistan that we abandoned. They were Muslim. Okay? I didn't ask, are you >> Ukraine? Okay, it's all of these are moral messages. They're not political ones. They're not religious ones. The Taliban's bad. Is Should that be controversial? No. Putin is bad. Should that be controversial? No. Hamas is evil. >> I'm banned in Russia, by the way, John, as well, cuz I called Putin a warlord. So, I'm on the Russia banned list, and it's a great honor when I >> Congratulations. Well, we should do we'll do a trip to Ukraine when this war is over. >> I would love that. I would love that. But again to me these are moral messages and that's why you know the silence of so many um as I think contributing and breaks my heart. But again I think um you know I'm also fortunate to be on the back side of my career. I could care less if there's any push back and and I understand I understand younger people that may want to say something um be a little scared in in Hollywood. Look, again, at the Emmys last night, you know, there wasn't one mention of free the hostages, one mention of Charlie Kirk, and a lot of that is because these folks are indoctrinated, but a lot of it is they're scared. >> They know if they say that, they will be black balled. You know, the 3,000 4,000 signes of the letter that came out lately saying we will not work with Israeli film companies. Um, thank goodness Paramount Pictures. Yeah, >> Larry Larry Larry Ellison um came out and said, "No, you're crazy. We're going to start standing up." So, I do start I don't know if you feel it, but I'm starting to feel a little bit of a shift into sanity. >> Every time I feel it, John, I then get brutally let down. I've felt it two or three times since October 7, and I start to get excited, and then I go, "H." But you're right. I'm probably on my third feeling that there is a some kind of a shift and I hope to hell that this one's for real. >> Me too. >> Uh I would now love you to play Superman for not just for me even though I will pretend this is a private performance but for my my wonderful viewers and my listeners and again I I am I'm still in shock. I am I I loved you before and I loved your voice but now I didn't realize you were one of me. You were >> Yeah. That's why I love you so much and that's why you've been such an inspiration to all of us and you know from one songwriter to another. >> Oh you haven't quite hit the success that you have but I'm sure it's coming. >> I love the song you you wrote with your friend. It was a beautiful song. >> Oh Fire Rose, you are so I'm going to send this clip to her and she'll be blown away. You're amazing. Thank you. I'll be silent now. I can't stand a fly. I'm not that naive. I'm just out to find the better part of me. I'm more than a bird, more than a plane, more than some pretty face beside a train. It's not easy to be me. Wish that I could cry, fall upon my knees, find a way to fly to a home I will soon see. It may sound upside. Don't be a heat. [Music] Heroes have the right to bleed. I may be to stop. Won't you concede? Heroes have the right to dream. And it's not easy to be me and up and away from me. Now it's all right. You can all sleep sound tonight. I'm not crazy or anything. [Music] I can't stand a fly. I'm not that nice. Man were meant to ride with clouds between their knees. I'm only a man in a funny red sheet. Digging for kryptonite on this one street. Only a man a funny red sheep. Looking for special things inside of me. No, it's not easy to be [Music] me. [Music] That was incredible. That was incredible. But see, like that is music is so powerful. It's so like so powerful and to use it for good is just you're you're incredible. I know I'm I'm fangirling hard here, but that was insane. And thank you again and thank you for just being a human being who is sane, has common sense, and can identify that terrorism is evil. >> Who would have thought? >> Well, again, it's a team effort and thank you. you know, we're in the foxhole together and um I know we're on the right side of history, so it makes it easy to do, right? It makes it easy to get up and do it. We're on the right side and thank you for just being, you know, you know, a beautiful voice, a beautiful human. And um >> yeah, I I enjoy I look forward to maybe seeing you in person and we can maybe sing a song together one day. >> Oh my gosh, that I mean, I once sung on the footy show back when I was a sports broadcaster and one of the former football players said I sounded like a cat in a blender. I love cats and I love London, so we're good. >> Okay. No, great. I don't know how he knows what that sounds like. Do you know I think I think the emotion of it is I I'm trying to you know I I get emot I think because this space is so hard and you know that as well but the resolve is so strong because we know we're on the right side of history but sometimes we are human and sometimes just that reassurance from someone else who sees it as clearly as you do is so powerful and and the words in that song are they inspire me every day as do you. Thank you so much again. I'm so grateful and I can't wait to come over and meet you and your beautiful family. I I'm in the US next month. So, let's try and make something happen. >> I look forward to it. Thank you, Aaron. >> Thank you. Did not think I could love him more than I did prior to meeting him, but I do. What a legend. Thank you so much for tuning in and for watching. We really appreciate you. I love your comments. Please keep them coming. Fan mail time. Fan mail time. Now, I made the point uh in yesterday's episode that if Conor McGregor ran with a platform of booting Rosie O'Donnell out of Ireland, it might be the first time in history that 100% of the population vote for one candidate. And uh Sauterus uh sent me a message saying, "Back in 1935, the Greek citizens voted for the return of King George II, and as a total result, 96% of the Greek citizens voted yes." 3% uh voted I don't know or I don't answer and 1% voted no. Isn't that insane? Yes, it is. Thank you so much. Uh Alonor says, "Erinar, you're a voice of sanity in the insane world. Keep up the good work. Don't let the haters intimidate you. I was wondering what's your religion and how religious are you?" Uh I definitely don't let the haters intimidate me. I am battleh hardened in that space. I could not give a tinker's cuss. I see who they cheer for and their hate of me is an honor. My religion, I'm Catholic. I was born Catholic. Uh used to go to church all the time. I was an alter girl. Actually, an alter girl when I was younger. Uh starting to lean back more into it a little bit. Uh a couple of decades there wasn't particularly religious nor spiritual. Uh but now I feel like maybe it's cuz I'm getting older. Uh maybe because I see so much evil in the world that I'm looking I'm looking to dip back into something that feels holy or good or helps understand or gives me peace and comfort maybe. I always think, you know, when I lose someone that's close to me or even my dad, I think I would much rather think of them in heaven um than than anything else. So I feel like yes, I'm Catholic. Uh, and I feel like just in the last year, couple of years, I'm I'm starting to rebuild my relationship with God. I don't know how that looks or what that means or if that sounds ridiculous, but just being very honest with you, I'm I'm much more open to it. I still have moments where I think, how could a God let that happen? How could a God let that happen? You know, I see suffering and I think, how could there be a God when this happens? But what's the alternative? Right? And I think faith is everything. We have to have faith or what do we have? What's the point of any of it? So, yeah, that's a kind of very honest answer to your question. I appreciate it. Here we go. Uh, and well done, Free Palestine from Hamas. Thank you. That was my little song that I did with um Can't remember her name. The Emmy Chick. The Jewish Emmy chick. Honestly, can't remember her name. Cannot remember her name. We'll never think of it again. Hopefully, we'll never have to see it again. Uh yes, but I did a little remix of her Free Palestine. Uh here we go. Gregor, good evening from South Africa. Huge but mostly silent fan here. Thank you so much for your content and updates and railing against the evil of this world and being outspoken ally for Israel, for caring deeply and giving Spiker Moore the time, space, and love to communicate. Yeah, a lot of you are giving me um lovely feedback on that interview. Uh, and also making the point that I I let my subject speak, which I think is is kind of the most important part of of any interview. Um, yeah, someone else, Lannne, says, "Thank you very much for allowing Speaker Moore to speak. We learn so much by you doing that, and the respect and love you show your guests is so inspiring." Well, I do. I I respect and and love everyone unless you're a terrorist. Like, it's a pretty wide brush that I that I paint my love with. But if you're a terrorist, you you don't get painted with no love brush. There's no love brush here if you are a terrorist. And that's essentially it. Like murderers. No, definitely they don't get love brushed. But yeah, if you're just genuinely a good, decent person most of the time, then I love you and I respect you. Uh thank you. I'll I'll go now. I could go for another 20 minutes here. I love your comments. I read them all. But this has been a really long episode, so I will let you go. You're welcome. Love you all very, very much. Unless you are a terrorist listening, in which case I despise every ounce of your being. I'll see you tomorrow, my loves. Take care. Bye. [Music]