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Stephen A Smith conducts his first interview with far-right commentator Candace Owens, exploring what it's like being a black conservative in America. The conversation covers everything from Donald Trump's 2024 victory and Ukraine's President Zelenskyy to George Floyd, the BLM movement, and Owens' controversial effort to exonerate Harvey Weinstein. Stephen A also reveals a full-circle moment, years ago at a Knicks game, Owens begged him for a high-five. Now a mother of three expecting her fourth child, Owens holds nothing back about feminism, vaccines, and why she believes the black community needs to stop defending criminals. Stephen A makes it clear: he doesn't agree with everything she says, but he's committed to giving all voices a fair platform.
A Full Circle Moment
Stephen A Smith opens the show with a personal story. Years ago, a young woman approached him at a Knicks game, desperately asking for a handshake. Her ex-boyfriend was filming, hoping to capture the moment. That woman was Candace Owens. Now, she sits across from Stephen A as one of the top podcasters in America, a mother of three expecting her fourth child, and one of the most polarizing voices in conservative media.
Before diving into the interview, Stephen A addresses his audience directly. He acknowledges that his show has featured liberals like New York Mayor Eric Adams, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, Maryland Governor Wes Moore, and Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. But he's also welcomed conservatives like Representative Byron Donalds. Stephen A makes his position clear: he's not an official when it comes to politics, just a conscientious observer committed to fairness. That means giving people from all sides an opportunity to speak, even when he disagrees with them.
The 2024 Election: Economy Over Everything
When asked about Donald Trump's victory in the 2024 election, Candace Owens doesn't hesitate. "It's the economy, stupid," she says, referencing the old political expression. While the media screamed about social movements and identity politics, Americans were struggling with gas prices and grocery bills. They were exhausted with constant anger and division.
Owens argues that Trump didn't win the election—the progressive left lost it. Kamala Harris ran for only 100 days, essentially coronated without earning the nomination. President Obama's lecture to "the brothers" about their responsibility to elect Harris didn't help. "He's been gone. He's in Martha's Vineyard living in a house God knows how much it costs," Owens says. "Then he kind of reappears to sort of lecture the brothers about their responsibility."
Stephen A agrees, noting that Trump's popularity increased within 89% of counties in the United States. For the first time in 20 years, a Republican won the popular vote. The message was clear: Americans rejected the progressive left's rhetoric and policy positions.
Zelenskyy: The Neighborhood Crackhead
Candace Owens pulls no punches when discussing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. She's called him "a homosexual actor," "the neighborhood crackhead," and "a welfare queen." Her criticism centers on his constant requests for American money while appearing in military fatigues instead of proper attire.
"He's taken billions away, unaccounted billions," Owens says. "You and I have to get to work because Zelenskyy wants his borders protected, and we can't have our borders protected because that would be a racist thing to ask for." She adds that Zelenskyy's wife shops in Paris while Ukrainian oligarchs buy yachts with American taxpayer money.
Stephen A initially pushes back, suggesting that Trump and Vice President JD Vance were too aggressive with Zelenskyy during his White House visit. But Owens reveals details that change his perspective: Zelenskyy is a literal actor who tried to attend the Oscars, appeared on magazine covers, and did a three-hour podcast with Lex Fridman—all while refusing to wear a suit when asking for American aid.
Owens goes deeper, explaining her fundamental disagreement with U.S. involvement in Ukraine. She researched the conflict's origins and discovered that in 1989, when the Berlin Wall came down, Secretary of State James Baker promised Russia that NATO would never expand "one inch Eastward." This assurance appears in declassified NSA documents. When the U.S. considered adding Ukraine to NATO, Russia viewed it as a betrayal.
"You have to imagine the memory that they have," Owens explains. Russia asked to join NATO themselves and sat down with Tucker Carlson to explain their position. Meanwhile, Zelenskyy suspended elections, locked down churches, and imprisoned nuns. As a Christian, Owens says she doesn't like him at all.
Life as a Black Conservative
Stephen A gets to the heart of the interview: What's it like being a black conservative in America? Owens acknowledges it was much harder in 2015 when Trump first ran. The media had a stronger hold on people's minds. But the explosion of independent media has helped tremendously to defeat media caricatures.
"It's pioneering," Owens says. "I think it's the most rewarding thing ever when people come back and say you were right." She points to her early criticism of Black Lives Matter's finances, warning that money would be siphoned out of black communities. When BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors' fraud was exposed, people acknowledged Owens had been right all along.
Owens has two sisters—one a year older, one a year younger. They sandwich her. When she first started in conservative media, they didn't understand or particularly care about her work. They'd joke about her attending "clansmen rallies." But this past election, both sisters voted for Trump.
"We grew up with a great sense of humor," Owens explains. "That was one of the worst things I hated about BLM. Black people culturally, we're the funniest. You always want to go listen to Chris Rock, Chris Tucker. I thought the best parts of what black culture represented to me growing up was removed."
The White Lives Matter Moment
Stephen A brings up a controversial moment: Candace Owens appearing in Paris with Kanye West, both wearing "White Lives Matter" shirts. Stephen A admits he was upset, feeling she was giving ammunition to critics who would automatically deem her against black people as a whole.
Owens explains that polite discussion doesn't work with the black community. "If you try to come politely, you're just going to get disrespected," she says. The White Lives Matter shirt was Kanye's artistic way of communicating. He hated when white people patronizingly told him "black lives matter," so he flipped the script.
"Imagine if black people were just like, 'Yeah, every time they saw a white person, your white life matters.' It's just—there's something about it I just don't like," Owens explains. For her, growing up with Kanye's music gave her courage to be herself, not an archetype of what a black woman should be.
George Floyd and Defending Criminals
Owens used "bombastic words" regarding George Floyd, who was murdered by a police officer in Minnesota. She stands by her position, expressing frustration with how the black community defends criminals in ways other communities don't.
"You will not find this in any other community," Owens insists. "If a white person gets shot and killed unarmed, white people are not coming out and burning down their own neighborhoods. They're going to look at the circumstances." She contrasts this with how Asian mothers or Jewish communities would respond—with standards and accountability rather than rallying around the worst examples.
Owens also criticizes how the black community rejects its most accomplished members. "Condoleezza Rice? She's a traitor, an Uncle Tom. Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice? He's a traitor, an Uncle Tom. Dr. Ben Carson, a literal brain surgeon? Black people will call him stupid." Meanwhile, George Floyd ends up on T-shirts.
"There's no way Black America can get ahead with that backwards mindset," Owens concludes. "You put George Floyd on a T-shirt and you denigrate and disrespect someone like Clarence Thomas. I'm just not with it."
Club Candace and the Vaccine Industry
Owens has launched a new platform called Club Candace. Her number one goal is reaching people who want to hear the truth, regardless of color. Surprisingly, she has massive followings in Africa—Nigeria, Uganda, and beyond.
At Club Candace, she runs a vaccine series. She's openly anti-vaccine and doesn't vaccinate her children. "Black Americans should learn about the vaccine industry. We were targeted," she explains. "What was sent over to Africa to experiment and make people infertile—it was Hispanic women, Native Americans, and black Americans who were experimented on."
The platform also includes a book club that meets every two weeks, introducing members to books that helped forge her political opinions outside the school system. "You're just getting kind of whatever goes on in this headquarters of crazy," Owens jokes.
Make Him a Sandwich: Why Real Women Don't Need Fake Feminism
Owens' new book is titled "Make Him a Sandwich: Why Real Women Don't Need Fake Feminism." The title alone sparks controversy, but Owens is unapologetic. "We just need to destroy the feminist movement. It's so toxic," she says.
In the wake of Kamala Harris' loss, Owens argues that women are unhappy because they're told to compete with men. "We are not like men. We are not built like men biologically, mentally, physically. The idea that to be equal in society I have to have the same aspirations as a man is going to make women chronically unhappy."
She reveals that Gloria Steinem, a famed feminist, was actually a CIA operative. The feminist movement was the CIA looking for a way to tax households twice. "It has not led to the enriching of the household. It has not led to the enriching of our life experiences. The biggest joys in my life are being able to be at home with my children and my husband."
Harvey Weinstein: Wrongfully Convicted?
Perhaps Owens' most controversial position is her effort to exonerate Harvey Weinstein. She recently interviewed the former Hollywood producer from prison. Initially, she thought he was guilty. But after examining the facts, she believes he was wrongfully convicted.
"I have been a hater of the Me Too movement since day one," Owens says. "We need due process. Watching men lose their entire lives based on an allegation is wrong. Women lie, men lie, women lie. Facts don't lie."
She illustrates her point with a hypothetical: "I could have literally ruined your life, Stephen A. I could have been like, 'He touched my hand at that Knicks game,' and cry. You'd be done, cancelled forever. That's wrong."
Weinstein's case was recently overturned in New York and sent back to appellate courts for retrial. Owens plans to release a series showing the facts of the case, believing the Me Too movement created a dangerous precedent that destroyed due process. "We got to go back to the beginning and put this genie back into the bottle, and it all begins with Harvey Weinstein."
Stephen A's Perspective
After the interview, Stephen A addresses his audience directly. He's fully aware people heard controversial comments about Kanye, George Floyd, and more. But the primary reason he wanted Candace Owens on the show was curiosity about how she feels as a black conservative, particularly given the vitriol aimed at her.
"Are there times where I feel that she's a bit abrasive? Absolutely. Are there times that I feel she's that way unnecessarily? Yeah," Stephen A admits. "But she acknowledged she just doesn't have time. A mother of three expecting a fourth kid, preoccupied with a lot of things that occupy ourselves in life, and she doesn't have patience and tolerance for nonsense and games."
Stephen A makes it clear this wasn't the time for a challenging, probing interview. It was his first time meeting her, and he wanted to hear what she had to say. But he promises a lengthier, more challenging discussion in the future.
"No matter what our emotional state of mind is, no matter how turned off we might be over the things that people say and the manner in which they say it, the truth is supposed to usurp everything," Stephen A explains. "When that young lady speaks, don't even think about challenging her intelligence. Don't even think about challenging her ability to articulate her point of view. You better know what the hell you're talking about when you come at her."
Stephen A acknowledges he's different than Owens on many political positions. But he can't deny she's sharp as a tack. "Like it or not, Candace Owens is not going anywhere. She's number eight on Spotify's list of podcasts and climbing. She's in her 30s. Deal with that."
Democrats: Still Lost
Before closing, Stephen A addresses 22 Democratic senators who posted identical messages on social media about Trump's presidency. The messages were literally word-for-word the same, all claiming prices are up and inflation is getting worse under Trump.
"You see that idiocy right there? You talk about people being tone-deaf," Stephen A says. "Why the hell would 22 Democratic senators be literally echoing the same thing and think that would resonate with the American people? All it shows is that the same fabric of our democracy is unchanging in the eyes of some of these officials. This is why Donald Trump is in office."
Stephen A breaks down why Trump resonates while traditional politicians don't. Typical politicians say: "Oh, inflation is high. Oh, look at them pointing fingers at migrants. They don't care about you." Trump's approach is different. He calls politicians pieces of garbage who don't give a damn about regular Americans. He says the system is rigged, and politicians have hoodwinked people for years.
"It's not what he says, it's how he says it," Stephen A explains. "He does it with vitriol and venom to show disrespect to politicians who the public have no respect for. He's using it to separate himself from the cesspool that is Capitol Hill."
Trump won all the swing states. His popularity elevated within 89% of counties in the United States. He won increased support from the black community, the Hispanic community, and young voters. He won the popular vote for the first time in 20 years as a Republican nominee. He also won the Electoral College. Republicans control the White House, the House, and the Senate.
"There's no Trump mandate?" Stephen A asks incredulously. "You see the problem? Or is it just that the Democrats are so damn lost that they're going to convince themselves they can do the same old same and still regain power?"
Stephen A predicts that unless Democrats fundamentally change, JD Vance or Marco Rubio will be the next president in 2028. Trump has the power now, and he's manipulating the proceedings. Elon Musk owns X. Jeff Bezos attended the inauguration. The man running TikTok was there too. Conservative voices like Candace Owens have massive platforms.
"If you think the liberals are overcoming that, you go ahead and watch Schumer and those 21 other senators talk their drivel," Stephen A concludes. "You'll have nobody but yourselves to blame."
Video Transcript
Kyrie's down for the rest of the season what does that mean for the Western Conference Jay-Z is on the war path what the hell am I talking about and in case you didn't know you might need a seat belt when you consider who I'm about to talk to today you've heard the name Candice Owens right she Sun now to say the least she always got something to say and that ain't Chang here on the Stephen A Smith show let us pray let us pray what's up everybody Welcome to the latest edition of the Stephen A Smith show coming at you over the digital Airways of YouTube and of course ihart radio thanks again to all my subscribers and followers out there courtesy of iHeart Radio millions of downloads have taken place over the last few months and of course over YouTube we've now eclipsed over 1.1 million subscribers can't thank y'all for the love and support enough as always I say that I will always continue to say that because without y'all there is no me please know that I know that to continue to like and follow the show just click the Bell to get notified for all of our newest content and YouTu shall be considered the latest member of the Stephen A Smith show family and while you're doing that make sure to pick up a copy of my New York Times bestselling book straight shooter A Memoir of Second Chances and first takes now in paperback just go to straight shooter book.com to get yourself a copy that's straight shooter book.com to get yourself a copy if you're wondering what the name of my production company is that's where I got it from straight shooter straight shooter production straight shooter media that's where I got it from the title of my book got a lot to get into today Candice Owens will be on in a few minutes I got my seat Bel on y'all I got my seat belt on but before we get to her let's get started in the National Basketball Association with the headlines have gone from bad to worse for the Dallas Mavericks last night kyri Irvin suffered a left knee injury as he was fouled while driving to the basket against the Sacramento Kings replay show his knee appeared to hyp extend on the play and scans today revealed that Kyrie Irvin suffered a season ending torn ACL Kyrie was helped to the free throw line where he sank both free throw rows with tears streaming down his face the nine time Allstar was averaging nearly 25 points per game and has become Dallas's primary outside shooting threat following the trade of Superstar Luca dunic to the Los Angeles Lakers so far the trade has not worked out for the Mavericks as Anthony Davis went down with an abductor strain in just his first game with the team all this while the team just announced plans to raise prices for season ticket holders first things first let me say this about Kyrie Irving Kyrie Irvin and I have had our differences in the past years ago particularly uh with covid going on some of the situations that he's gotten himself into I've never been shy however of acknowledging what an absolutely fantastic and phenomenal basketball player that he is and at at his core he is a really really good and decent person we don't wish this on anybody but especially somebody being this spect acular talent and showstopper that he is and so I wish him nothing but the best he's a good brother we've even had differences in the past where had involved his daddy and I've gotten to know his daddy and now he and I get along and we talk a lot we don't talk a lot I shouldn't say that but we talk frequently enough he's a good man getting to know him knowing what we've seen from Kyrie Irving we wish him nothing but the best my prayers are with you brother for a full health and healthy recovery the game needs you it needs needs your magnificence it needs your greatness on display so I sincerely hope you come back from this devastating injury if anybody can do it you can do it and you will do it and just know that I'm ruing for you bro and I wish you nothing but the best transitioning to the president of basketball operations general manager for the Dallas Mavericks the one and only Nico Harrison it can't get much worse I have nothing but the best wishes for this guy as well Nico Harrison was an executive for Nike for 19 years he's worked with Michael Jordan he's worked with LeBron James he was very very tight with Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant not only loved Nico Harrison he trusted him and I know what Nico Harrison and what kind of situation he's put himself in because to beat the man running basketball operations for the Dallas Mavericks superstar in the game of basketball with a career average of 28 point M gain um was a global iconic basketball figure to trade him away for somebody six years older in Anthony Davis and then Anthony Davis goes down his very first game as a Dallas maver had 26 points and 13 rebounds in his first game in Dallas before going down in the third quarter with the abductor strain and now here it is where Kyrie goes down too for all intended purposes the Dallas Maverick season ended last night the second Kyrie went down it's over they're not going to win any kind of Championship this year let's get that out the way right now it's not going to happen and right now if you are Nico Harrison who is receiving death threats hate Mill and Beyond since pulling the trigger on that trade for Luca donic you can't imagine how bad things are for him right now in the city of Dallas because Luc is still playing in LA and the Los Angeles Lakers have ascended to a number two seed within the Western Conference and they're in position to compete legitimately for a shot at the crown they're a championship Contender as we speak it can't get any worse for ni Harrison could you imagine how bad it's going to be if the Lakers actually end up winning the west and go to the finals and Nico is playing and Anthony Davis and Kyrie Irving are home and both are home due to injuries remember Kyrie Irving goes out with an injury but that's who you were plac in the ball ball in the hands of for the franchise Anthony Davis goes down with an injury he's the guy you traded LCA donic for those are the cornerstones in your franchise for the foreseeable future and both of them are down with injuries Anthony Davis expected to come back Kyrie Irving obviously not can't get much worse for niik Harrison can't get much worse what I would ask the folks to do is be a bit patient let's look forward to next season and let's see what Kyrie Irving and Luca I'm sorry Kyrie Irving and AD will be like together if they're healthy and oh by the way Kyrie Irving has a player option for next year he was looking for a long-term deal Kyrie Irving was on the verge of signing for over $250 million this is the same Kyrie Irving that lost out on a lot of his money because of some of the incidences public relations nightmares that he got into he got he got himself into so who knows whether or not this is going to compromise his money CU if you're Dallas you want to give it to Kyrie Irving a player you just don't know how healthy he's going to be once he gets back and you really don't want to make that kind of commitment until you know for sure Dallas with championship aspirations in the palm of their hands eviscerated before our very eyes in a matter of weeks let me transition to the world of entertainment where Shan Carter known as Jay-Z himself continues his full-throated defense of the sexual assault allegations leveled against them levied against them attorneys for Jay-Z filed a defamation suit yesterday against the Alabama woman who claimed okay he raped her when she was 13 years of age in a sense withdrawn civil lawsuit Carter lawsuit said the woman identified as Jane Doe timed her claim to quote inflict inflict maximum pain and suffering on Mr Carter end quote the lawsuit also named the woman's attorneys Tony Busby and David Fortney whom Jay-Z alleged were quote soullessly motivated by greed in abject disregard of the truth and the most fundamental precepts of human decency end quote as for Busby here's his response to the allegations levied against him by Jay-Z quote Sean Carter's investigators have repeatedly harassed threatened and hared this poor woman for weeks trying to intimidate her and make her recant her story she hasn't and won't instead she has stated repeatedly she stands by her claims these same group of investigators have been court on tape offering to pay people to sue me and my firm after speaking with Jane Doe today it's clear to me that the quotes attributed to her in the lawsuit are completely made up or they spoke to someone who isn't Jane Doe this is just another attempt to intimidate and Bully this poor woman that we will deal with in due course we won't be bullied or intimidated by frivolous cases end quote it's not frivolous Mr Busby respectfully it's not it's not frivolous it's not frivolous a man was accused of being an adult and having raped a 13-year-old that's not frivolous and so most people would just move on with their life and live their best life it's a very very difficult thing to do when it comes to Jay-Z cuz he's in the public eye and he proclaims adamantly his innocence I've already told y'all I never believed he was guilty of such a thing the man that I've known for 25 years would never do such a thing I couldn't imagine that but I wasn't an eyewitness account to the Affairs or anything like that so I don't know but I know what I believed in the case of Jay-Z however if you are an individual that is innocent of such allegations I don't blame you one bit for reigning Terror upon anybody who went about the business of accusing you of something if indeed you are innocent say this much about Jay-Z he is certainly conducting himself like an innocent man case was dropped he can fade away he ain't fading away he talked about how he was his business was cost $20 million he's suing he's keeping this story in the Limelight why because he's making the case I was wrongfully accused of the most heinous thing that I could possibly fathom and I'm not sitting idly by and going for that I told y'all weeks ago when I talked about this matter with Jay-Z I said this to y'all weeks ago I've been in the presence of Jay-Z on many many occasions over the years I've seen him when he's been around kids and folks with the foulest of mouths talking the way fellas can talk when they get around one another white black Hispanic and Beyond I've seen Jay-Z like yo yo yo kids are around everybody can have their opinions based on accusations but if the facts is incriminating as the accusations are if the fact facts don't match especially if somebody comes at you I don't blame people for being quiet and letting it fade but I also don't blame folks C for creating hell and fury and going after anybody who dared to accuse them of such a thing I Don't Mind Jay-Z doing this at all Mr Busby and his firm beware he's not going away that much I will say about Jay-Z I don't think he's going away coming up she's black and she's a far right commentator who is as outspoken as they come and our latest Crusade is trying to get Harvey Weinstein exonerated who else could I be talking about other than the one and only Candice Owens like I told you get your popcorn ready and buckle that seat belt she's coming on in a few minutes with your boy Stephen A don't go away all right everybody listen up with all the Big Time Sports Action that's happening each and every day the Steph A Smith show wants to make sure you are taking advantage of it all that's why we've partnered with prize picks the best place to win cash while watching sports the app is really easy to use to make a lineup all you have to do is pick more or less on a few player stats choose from any of your favorite players Luca donic Jimmy Butler and Zack LaVine all in the same entry then sit back and watch the list is absolutely endless you can play prize picks in over 40 States including California and Texas Best of all prize picks will give you $50 when you play your first $5 lineup when or lose you'll get 50 bucks just use promo code SAS and download prospects right now again download the app and use code SAS to get $50 instantly after your first $5 lineup priz picks run your game welcome back to the Stephen A Smith show yesterday I had the opportunity to speak with one and only Candice Owens for those of you who don't know she's a far right pundit who's not afraid to speak a mind on a variety of topics even if her stance is controversial she's an african- American with conservative views they usually don't sit well with a whole whole lot of people and I want to talk about that before we play this interview see on this show one of the things that have been transpiring over the last weeks and months is that we've seen a lot of liberals come on to this show we've seen Eric Adams the May of New York on this show we've seen minority leader in the house the one not only Hakeem Jeff the successor to Nancy Pelosi you just saw me interview former New York governor candidate for the mayor seat of New York Mr Andrew Cuomo you've seen Chris Cuomo on this show on many occasions Bill Raley's been on this show Byron Donald representative out of the state of Florida he's been on this show but when you see these folks and let me not forget West Moore the governor of Maryland he's also been on this show a lot of times people forget some of those guys they remember others Josh Shapiro has been on the show governor of Pennsylvania and from what I'm being told there's a whole bunch of people on Capitol Hill that want to end up on this show and I'm honored to have them all I say all of that to say on this show this platform I pride myself on being fair-minded I'm not an offici when it comes to politics I'm just a conscientious Observer I read the news I watch stuff on television I see what I see I wonder about what's going on based on the facts that are disseminated to us I'm able to deduce balls and Strikes and how to call it and I go from there for some people that's not good enough my response is you're going to have to get over it I'm not here to be friends not here to make enemies either but I am here to be fair and part of fairness is letting people speak and giving them an opportunity to express their views even when I don't agree with them in the case of Candace Owens we going to do that I got her for 25 minutes she's already promised that she's coming back on and we gonna have a more lengthier discussion about all the things that entails Candace Owens what makes her who she is but why would I be interested in talking to her it's not just because she's opposite to say somebody like a Roland Martin or an ARA Martin who have been analyst leftwing analyst I might add that have blessed me with their presence on this show but it's also to pique my curiosity and to edify me to some degree you see when I think about blacks who are conservatives I see a guy like officer Tatum out there I want to meet that man I want to talk to that man in terms of black conservatives like an officer Tatum like a Candace Owen and various others they Peak my interest do you know why because they deviate from the norm you see when people make an argument against the black community and they say that we're monolithic and our thinking I don't like that when they say that 85 to 90% of the people in the black community are going to vote Dem atically that has always unnerved me for a few reasons number one I remember when Linda B Johnson was quoted as saying before 1964 civil rights legislation was placed in the law put this through push this legislation through and we'll have the Negroes vote for us for the next 200 years and I think about how divided Society can be how divided communities can be you could be Hispanic you could be Dominican you could be Cuban you could be Guatemalan you be Venezuelan you could be Puerto Rican you could be Mexican it doesn't matter you can't go to all of them and say oh excuse me we got their vote you can't take them for granted you can't go to White to are Catholics white to a Jewish and say oh we got their vote you can't go to the Asian community and say oh we got their vote we got that on lock but somehow someway you can say that about us so on one hand we have a party which is the Democratic party which at least some people in the black community believe has taken us for granted because they know they got our vote and then you got folks on the side of the conservatives who saying there's no way in hell we going to get the black vote so why worry about them and as a result we end up being a disenfranchised Community that's the argument we were making before this past election back eight years ago n years ago Trump looked at America black Black America in particular and said what do you have to lose fast forward to 2024 he didn't have to say that because we saw a Democratic party leaning significantly to the progressive left with the rhetoric they were spewing and it cost them an election how do we know that Trump won all the swing States his popularity in increased within 89% of the counties in the United States of America his popularity increased within the black community within the Hispanic community and with young voters and for the first time in 20 years a republican won the popular vote not just the Electoral College vote sometimes that should give you cause the pause and to stand up and pay attention and to wonder what's the other side thinking rather than challenge them on every single thing they think feel and spew step back simply ask the question and listen to what they have to say knowing there's another day to get into a whole bunch of other stuff that's what I decided to do with Candace Owens say what you will about her she's smart as a whip highly intelligent very articulate and doesn't play there will be times in the future where hopefully she and I can get together and butt heads over one issue or another but this interview wasn't the time for that it was my first time ever meeting her and speaking to her to my knowledge and I simply wanted to ask some questions out of curiosity to get her response and to let that response be heard to the masses no judgment no push back there would be another time for that not this interview not with only 25 minutes with her I just wanted to hear how she would answer certain questions before I revisit those issues and many more with her later she promised to come back and I'm thankful for that for now let's just listen and hear what she has to say your boy Stephen A Smith with the one and only Candace Owens take a look I want to start off by saying I am not responsible for any comments that are about to be made I'm just interviewing I'm just listening and hearing from the other other side per se buckle up with your seat belt for this one because my next guest is considered a controversial figure known for her provocative statements and conservative views she's built a successful media brand which includes a popular podcast and a new book called make him a sandwich why real women don't need fake feminism despite facing criticism and controversy she remains Unapologetic and continues to push boundaries with her content and her opinions please welcome to the Stephen A Smith show the one and only Candice Owens Candace how are you pleasure to meet you how's everything it is great and I'm actually so excited I kept this from your producer because it's too good for me not to have told you as we're running live because this is a full circle moment but I've actually met you before okay and my e ex-boyfriend many years ago was a huge Stephen A Smith fan so we watched you and Skip every single morning and went to a Nicks game and he was like do you think you can get hand get him to give you a handshake and you were coming in under and like after the game had ended you were obviously in the front we were not that close and I was like Stephen A Smith Stephen A Smith please please shake my hand and then he caught it on camera and then you gave me a high five and it basically made it made our whole life just so you know well listen I'm glad we have a f memory together but it's a pleasure meeting you and and and just for the record you are not an enemy territory so I've got a lot of questions to ask you but before before I even get into all of that I hear congratulations is in order mother of three expecting a fourth child is that true that is correct eight more weeks to go here so it's just a factory over here and thank you very much it's a blessing absolutely congratulations to you and your and you and your hubby and your family and everything like that wishing you nothing but the best let's get right to It Candace uh first things first you know when you saw the election results take fold and you saw Donald Trump win the election popular vote electoral college etc etc what were the thoughts that ran through your mind when you saw the results transpiring you know I think that the first thing I thought was that old school expression it's the economy stupid you know we've done a lot and everyone screaming at each other all the time there's been all these social movements and you he versus her and black versus white but at the end of the day people just weren't living well under the Biden regime I I call it a regime but it it gets down to how was I living what were the gas prices how expensive are groceries are you willing to try something different and I think genuinely there's a fatigue that is setting in that has set in that was beginning to sort of percolate of people that are just exhausted with being angry you know what I mean like the the media constantly selling this guy's this this guy's that she's this she's that I think we're all just tired and that's kind of a good thing do you believe that Donald Trump won the election or that the progressive left and their thought process their policy some of the things that they were spewing it was more a product of them losing that's what I've been saying it wasn't about him winning it was about America saying nah he's closer to normal than what the hell we're hearing over here we don't like this and that's what transpired what do you think it was you are completely on the money with that it was really more that the left lost and it was a a weird it's very strange to watch Camala run I will say that because she really only ran for a 100 days right Trump had been running throughout four four years basically kind of upset about a loss in 2020 and she kind of just comes in and it's almost like a coronation which I think was disrespectful to the left leading voter base like it was just well he has kind of said he's knighted me and therefore I am the person that you should be electing and she didn't really work for it and rather was I think quite accusatory if you don't elect her it's because you have an issue with women I don't think OB speech to the brothers the quote unquote Brothers helped him any he's been dis he's been gone he's in Martha's Vineyard living in a house God knows how much it costs not something I could afford and then he kind of reappears to sort of lecture the brothers about their responsibility and I just don't think it's sat well this time around just a different time a different audience and people kind of realizing hey that's not really enough uh paint me a vision tell me what you're actually going to do for me don't tell me that it's just simply my responsibility to give this woman votes because she's a woman you know I want to transition to Trump back to Trump in this regard I just we just saw that world just saw it wasn't a press conference or anything like that I don't call it that him with uh Ukrainian president zinski and how he went at him and what have you now zalinski if I remember correctly you you you didn't speak too highly of him am I I want to make sure I'm quoting you act accurately you called him a homosexual actor is that true did you call him that I also just called him the neighborhood crackhead kind of just goes around asking for money I called him a Welfare Queen ghetto this is the thing the media kind of had me depicted throughout BLM as this person that uses the these words to describe black people I'm like no no no no no let's be very clear when I calling somebody like zilinsky a Welfare Queen there's a reason for that you come here with your hand out asking asking asking making demands it's funny because I was having a discussion with my husband about this and you know it's people that tend to need the most that make these sorts of Demands and they they're so arrogant he's taken billions away unaccounted billions by the way so you and I have to get to work because zinski wants his borders protected and we can't have our borders protected because that would be a racist thing to ask for um but he's allowed to demand that you and I get to work he's spent all the billions his wife is shopping in Paris the oligarchs in Ukraine are all buying yachts and yeah I I have absolutely no respect for him but I want to say I have not respected that man since day one this is not something that's new I just I just saw him coming it's not something that's new but what about Trump and Vance and how they conducted upod you and I might disagree on this particular issue because I don't disagree with what you're saying in terms of I was on the record saying listen you're coming with your hand out you need money you might you might not want to be confrontation you might want to be a bit more diplomatic zalinsky because you're the one that's in need and Trump wasn't wrong when he said all you don't have any of the cards you don't have any of the cards the flip side to it however is that the press conference you're in the overal office we know it's this is the White House this isn't this isn't some place in Ukraine and he's got broken English and you got the vice president interrupting him you got them I thought somewhat bullying him to some degree I just didn't think it was necessary it was a good look that's where I'm coming from am I wrong in feeling that way no I think you're you're perfectly you mean these are your feelings they're valid right if that's how you felt for me I felt it was refreshing I'm so tired of politics I know they always button it up for us they're constantly telling us oh this and and saying things that sound good but don't actually result in good things and I think it was sort of the frustration of how much he has taken from America to not come with some respect and I likened it to even when you go to your granddad's house and it's your birthday your mom kind of makes you wear something special you know he's going to give you a card and slip some cash in there $100 granddad's always good for that and you just come with some decorum and some respect this dude is wearing has been wearing military fatigues for like five years now okay put on a suit as soon as he gets out of the car Trump's like well he's Dr dressed up this should let you know this should signal to the public that what he's doing is an act why give me a scenario a reason why he can't put on a suit even if you're in the midst of a war why can't you put on a suit when you're coming to ask for money well because he wants people to see him as a guy that's downtrodden in the trenches and he's not that this guy's been on the cover of Vanity Fair he's been on the cover of Vogue he's been on the cover of Forbes he's doing photo shoots he did a three-hour podcast with Lex Friedman he asked and was declined a spot to go to the Oscars a couple of years ago and so this is making a mockery this is making them put on a suit you know this is why this is why people got to be careful about messing with you because I was getting ready to disagree with you until you those last I didn't know he tried to go to the Oscars I didn't know he tried to be on the cover of I didn't know that stuff Candace I I honestly didn't know okay that does change it a little bit he is a literal actor by the way you know that right that I know that I know that I know what I will say there no any sympathy for the fact that Russia did attack his his Nation I mean that that there is some sympathy for that right we see the rubble we see the catastrophe that is Ukraine we see Putin bombing them for K we've seen that happen right yeah so the thing for me is and the reason why I say that I've been had this opinion since the very beginning is I don't rely on politicians I think all politicians lie and so I was reading the transcripts leading up to this moment of Putin speeches and Biden speeches and trying to discern what the truth was and Putin was saying you guys gave us assurances that NATO was not going to expand one inch Eastward into our territory essentially NATO is a military we were putting a military on his border despite in 1989 when the Berlin Wall came down as a condition an agreement for for them to agree to take down the Berlin Wall um we promised and you can go look at this in NSA Declassified documents James uh James Baker um was was the uh Secretary of State at that time yes he was we promised them that we would never move NATO Eastward so you have to imagine the the the memory that they have and they're going why are you now doing that now all of a sudden we're saying that Ukraine is going to join NATO and he's saying this is unacceptable America can't keep changing its mind and so when I was able to validate what he said and to read the speeches you cannot walk away from that without an understanding that we are the aggressors everything that we say Russia is doing recreating the Soviet Union we are doing that what is the European Union what is NATO and we've been getting away for it for too long under this guise of quote unquote spreading democracy so I fundamentally disagreed with what I saw as Western propaganda trying to paint Putin as a monster for holding us to our promises and and not telling the public that he just randomly woke up one day and just said I want you know I want to do R up with my friends and he went into Ukraine that's not that's a fairy tale that's not what happened and um not beyond that like you saw when he sat down with uh Tucker Carlson he asked to join NATO himself why are we not having a productive relationship with Russia I call that cold war hangover people that grew up under their desks afraid of a nuclear bomb can never see Russia outside of being villainous and quite frankly I think zilinski is is a he suspended elections he's locked down churches he's locked up nuns I'm a Christian I don't like this guy at all that's that's Canon being quite honest I get that part let me transition to you specifically and get to the real reason I wanted you on this podcast first before I even get into that I want to ask you I know your voice is very very powerful for those of you don't know top 10 on Spotify I mean you're one of the top podcasters in the in the in the nation if not the world I know everybody tries to listen to you and they should because you are not an idiot you know what the hell you're talking about and you can challenge anybody and I give you credit for that I got to ask however though leading up to the election your voice was far more conspicuous in the past over the last several years than it was right before the election am I wrong in saying that and if I'm right in saying that why was that yeah so there were some Life Changes obviously I was pretty publicly fired so there was a lot of things that I was just doing uh trying to start my own business and to get back onto the air waves but going back to what I said earlier I have had sort of a fatigue with politics you know I was quite bored really with the same arguments I need a little bit of a challenge and I for me I just I like people to argue things honestly whatever your opinion is it's totally fine but just let's argue honestly and not use all the same rhetoric and so to be this far into this is like the third time Trump is running and we're seeing the same thing oh everyone who supports him as a racist as a sexist I'm just bored you know and uh I've always by the way been very passionate about culture vaccines I'm also a mom now so in in the beginning I wasn't I was married I had no children now I my interests have naturally shifted since becoming a parent and so I think people are seeing more sides of me and in many ways I'm growing up publicly and it's been refreshing you know refreshing to kind of take people on the journey and and to show people that I'm not just a trump supporter which the media did a very good job of painting that caricature of me you don't think that's an act you don't think that's an I don't want to call it a caricature but you don't think that's an accurate description of you as being a trump supporter no I am a trump supporter but I'm not just a trump supporter and I think in the beginning they kind of made it seem like I was always angry always talking bad about black people which is like any person that listens to my podcast white people get it 10 times worse but the media will only pluck a clip when I'm I'm speaking about a black issue and then it's oh There She is again saying stuff about black people they did a very good job of conditioning um I would say the public just via the mainstream media and headlines to think that I had like they call me like a self-hating black person it was completely wild it was out of it was out of control well listen this is the thing and this is the thing that gets me in trouble because obviously me being a black man me being a Centrist sort of Center left as opposed to center right I've been one that was inclined to vote Democratic you know at least for the presidency for the vast majority of my life if it was anybody other than Trump I think I would have voted conservative this time around I'm sort of becoming even more enlightened I'm going to use that word cuz I was so disgusted with the left and what I saw my patience has run thin at times and then I've listened to you over the years and one of the things that I didn't like is like what you just described what people would say about you and I'm saying well wait a minute is she wrong what is she saying that you disagree how come you can't say you disagree with and make your points as to why like she does as opposed to just attacking her which brings me to my next question what's it like being a black conservative in America nobody better ask this question than you honestly it's a hell of a lot easier than it was when I first got into this back in 2015 because people that was the first time they saw Trump and people just could not see past how could this possibly happen I think the media had a stronger hold on people's minds then than it does now now we've seen the explosion of Independent Media people are able to get their voices out outside of the New York Times and CNN and Fox News and that's helped tremendously to defeat all of media caricatures that are being created uh but I I find it now it's it's pioneering to put it in a nice way and I think it's the most rewarding thing ever when what I have found is that if you just stand for truth even in the beginning when it's really hard and people say terrible things about you and I've been called everything you could possibly imagine then there's that moment even if it takes years where they come they do come back and they say you were right particularly about BLM I mean I was hitting the drum about the finances so early and I'm going this like I'm not that you don't have feelings about this thing but I am telling you something else is going and this is not this is going to harm the black community in the end this money is just going to be Zapped out of communities and communities are going to be destroyed and then when that was proven right it was so refreshing to hear people say yeah we kind of hated her for a really long time for kind of saying this for a really long time and then you know the fraud of Patrice colors and what they were doing with the money and so my brain just works differently I am different and I'm happy being different I don't want to be the same but I also do respect I think I've learned in the process as well is to just respect where people are at you know I wasn't my sisters did not like where I was at when I started how many you have how many how many sisters do you have I have two sisters and they're like my they're my best friends so one is a year older one's a year younger so I grew up we like a trio so they sandwich you they sandwich you they were against you and they sandwich you huh well they just didn't really care you know to me I'm that's Candace I've always been different you know and they didn't know what I was on or what I was thinking and now this last election they voted for Trump which is crazy like that mean they were fully on the left and they just sort of saw it and so it's just been cool to see that and they now like my podcast before they didn't even listen to it but we always had um I grew up obviously in a not obviously but my family has a great sense of humor and that was one of the worst things I hated about BLM is that I've always thought that black people culturally like we're like we're the funniest we're the funniest you always want to go listen to Chris rockr Chris Tucker and you saw that removal where everything was just taken so seriously were so easily offended and I hated that I thought the best parts of what the Black Culture represented to me growing up was removed and um for me and my sisters they never cared like I'd be like can you watch my cat I have to go to a trump thing and my sister would be like oh are you going to another one of your clansmen rallies like yeah I'll watch your cat you know it's always a joke yeah and I get it and I I I guess for me because I think about and I remember when you showed up I believe it was in Paris you were with Kanye West and you were wearing the White live matter White lives matter shirt and what have you and I said damn and I was upset I was actually upset at you and here's why Candace because I looked at it and I said no don't give the ammunition don't give the ammunition you can sit up there and you can talk to folks about your views what you know and educate folks without them being close-minded because they saw something and visualized something and automatically deemed that you were against us as a people so I mean as you reflect on a moment like that and you talk about the black community and politics how do you feel how do you gauge what's the right thing to do and what's not the right thing to do you know for me the discussion and polite discussion it doesn't work I have found that you can go back and watch me on stage with ti. and Killer Mike and it doesn't work with the black community and I have a theory on this and I think partially it's because we have this this instance of Father absence but that we there's a lot of attitudes there's a lot of attitudes and if you try to come politely you're just going to get disrespected and so in terms of the White lives matter shirt first off uh Kanye that's how he communicates he communicates with art that's like this was Kanye's thing that I was stepping into but I understood what he was saying there because he is someone that does not like no one puts Kanye in the corner no one tells Kanye what he has to be and so when you start saying oh I'm going to superimpose you just being a black victim onto someone like Kanye West and you know he hated when white people would come up to him and say black lives matter so he's like okay you want to patronize me oh let me patronize you your life matters too like oh yeah like white white lives matter too and I want you to know that white lives matter your life matters he he never liked that uh yeah the patronization of it and so I and I felt the same way and we communicate differently I usually am using more bombastic words but that moment to me especially as someone who grew up and really Kanye's music kind of gave me the courage to be myself to to not have to be an an archetype of what a black woman should be H it was it was a moment for me that I I reflect on very fondly and yeah it broke the internet and there were it started a lot of conversations but imagine if black people were just like yeah every time they saw a white person right I'm with you white your white life matters it's just there's something about it I just don't like it wasn't for me you brought up the use of bombastic words you used that with George Floyd as well who was murdered by a police officer in Minnesota and obviously a lot of people in the black community had a real problem with you as it pertained to that that brings me to this question when you take these positions does it enter your mind I don't want to use the word vitri because I think that's a bit too strong and that's unfair to you and I don't want to do that but when you consider the fact that so many people in the black community have voted Democratic sens of civil rights legislation in 1964 you remember what Linda B Johnson said that you know you pass this legislation and we'll have the Negroes vote for us for the next 200 years remember that statement I know I I remember that statement I'm wondering because of your knowledge of politics your obvious knowledge of the issues when you speak on these things and you take positions about you take such positions particularly if it's antithetical or the antithesis of what the black community will point to do you think about it and do so on purpose because dare I say you're disgusted with us as a community for being Hoodwinked by the Democratic Party In Your Eyes is that possible so that's a very good question and disgusted would not be the right term for it frustrated yes and constantly trying to give people the facts so that they they understand that we lynndon Bane Johnson was an avowed racist and he hated us and yet we are doing everything that he wanted us to do we are reacting emotionally and not rationally we seem to be a stereotype of of irrationality actually all we have to do is make them feel something and they won't react and I want to be clear it's not just black Americans the me too movement was another man estation of that very you know that's why I'm doing this Harvey Weinstein series but what really get does upset me about the black community is that the the the manner in which we defend criminals you will not find this in any other community okay so black black white white person gets shot killed unarmed they're not coming out white people are not coming out and burning down their own neighborhoods right they're going to be like did you see did you see the black community attack me for going off about OJ being celebrated did you see that yeah yeah they it is they conditioned us to actually defend the worst in our communities they just will let it go you think Chinese people are going to run outside if they're like well listen this guy was high on fenel he got into brush up with police officers and he died Chinese people will be like especially Asian Asian moms are just dead serious they'd be like you idiot you know good for you so you're you're an embarrassment never come home this is how Asian women are they have a standard you think Jewish people are coming outside and going to you know rally around to no they all know that they they think of that a natural process we don't want to associate with that and we have the exact opposite mindset and in and when I say the exact opposite I mean also the reverse of that being that the most educated and the most accomplished people in our community in terms of their intellect we reject how can we ever get ahead right oh condis a rice no she's a traitor she's Uncle Tom Clarence Thomas Supreme Court Justice he's a traitor he's an Uncle Tom Dr Ben Carson a literal brain surgeon black people will call him stupid it's crazy so there's no way Black America can get ahead with that with that backwards mindset where you put you put George Floyd on a T-shirt and you denigrate and disrespect someone like Clarence Thomas I'm just not with it you know you got a new platform called Club Candice and I'm wondering how important is you I know it's you're going to speak your truth you have proven that time and time and time again okay but in the process of doing so as you have this new platform how important is it for you if at all to reach and resonate with the black community or to really really provoke change all across the board particularly in the United States of America what do you lie with that yeah the number one thing is for me to reach people who want to hear the truth and so that comes in all different shapes and sizes and colors and our demographics have really changed it just it's it's very mixed people all around the world like I have shockingly I would say in Africa they absolutely love me I mean like amount of Nigerians who listen to my podcast daily Uganda uh so it's not a color thing it's important for me to get information out that I don't think would otherwise be available so with Club Candace you know I have my vaccine series I am quote unquote antia don't vaccinate my children and I want people to know why I want people especially if you want to talk about something black Americans should learn about it's the vaccine industry we were we were targeted you know what was sent over to Africa to experiment and make people infertile it Hispanic women Native Americans and black Americans were experimented on and this is the stuff that matters um and so also obviously the book club to introduce him to the books that I read outside of the school system that kind of helped forg my op a lot of my opinions a lot of my political opinions um and so that's really fun that we meet every two weeks and so it's you're just getting kind of whatever goes on in this headquarters of crazy it's all happening at Club Candace make them a sandwich why real women don't need fake feminism explain that title please we just need to destroy the feminist movement it's just so toxic and I think that on the heels of kamala's loss and um you know this women are unhappy because they're being told to compete with men we are not like men we are not built like men biologically mentally physically we are just not men and the idea that to be equal in society I have to have the same aspirations as a man is going to be something that makes women chronically unhappy which is what we're dealing with today and learning the real history of feminism and I'm I'm mimicking Gloria Dy famed photo of her who was actually a CIA operative will wake people up to the fact that these decisions that you're being that are being told to you of like yes feminist movement was amazing was the CIA looking for a way to tax household H households two ways and it has not led to the enriching of the household it has not led to the enriching of our life experiences and the biggest joys in my life are being able to be at home with my children and my husband and I'm just tired of being told that that makes me somehow backwards we got to defend men yeah there you go Hey listen I'm not complaining I'm not complaining about that not not even a little bit all right you recently interviewed former Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein from prison why did you want to talk to him and what was the most surprising thing you got from it I have been a hater of the me too movement since day one I even before I had sons and now I have three I knew that we need do process and watching men lose their entire lives in the basis of an allegation I me I could have literally ruined your life Stephen I could have been like he touched my hand at that Nicks game and I remember this and cry you've been done cancelled over forever and that's wrong okay because women lie men lie women lie facts don't lie and we need due process and so the Harvey weiny case someone brought it to me and said take a look at it and I actually thought he was guilty when I first got on the phone with him in prison and we're totally on different sides of the political Spectrum but friend had reached out and said I think you'll be the only person that will actually take a look at this and tell the truth and I've just always been to telling the truth and it is my belief and I think that once I show the public the facts of this case that Harvey Weinstein was wrongfully convicted and his a case just got overturned in New York as it should have and now it's being sent back down in the appell courts he got so it's got to be retried and I just want the we got to go back to the beginning and we got to put this Genie back into the bottle and back into the me too bottle and it all begins with Harvey Weinstein and so I'm really excited about bringing that series forward got you before I let you get on out of here you know my producers in my ISS she mispronounced KLA Harris is name twice I want to make sure you didn't do that on purpose you didn't do that on purpose I just don't know how what is it is it or kamla Harris KLA Harris kamla Harr that's what I said I said Kamala that's right I'm that's well don't worry about it it's okay it's all right you said Cala but don't even worry about it send her to me she's got an issue I got you listen I know you got to go thank you for your time I just want to say one thing to you I've interviewed a lot of liberals on this show I'm telling the conservatives they're welcomed on the show too if I'm wrong correctly if I'm right agree with me I have no I'm not in this game contrary to what they've been writing about it I like being fair-minded and giving everybody an equal platform to express themselves and I appreciate you taking the time to come on the show I really thank you for it and you're welcome back on the show anytime thank you so much I would love to come back like I said this feels so full circle to me from the high five to this so thank you so much works for me you take care of yourself all the best I want to get in to what we just heard from Candace Owens okay be clear I'm fully aware you heard comments about Kanye you heard her answering my question you heard the way she answered my question about George Floyd the primary reason I wanted her on this show was because I was curious as to how she felt as a black conservative particularly as it pertained to black people because of the vitrio that I've seen aimed in her direction are there times where I feel that she's a bit abrasive absolutely are there times that I feel she's that way unnecessarily so yeah even she acknowledged she just don't have time a mother of three expecting a fourth kid preoccupied with a lot of things that occupy ourselves in life and she don't have patience intolerance for nonsense and games that's how she feels everybody has their feelings we have a right to disagree and again when we have a lengthier discussion I will most certainly be a bit more probing and challenging this wasn't the time for that my first time meeting her my first time talking to her I wanted to hear what she had to say and I wanted to hear the perspective that she provided to the masses out there and how Unapologetic she is in doing so I got that and I appreciate it because here's what I want everybody to understand and I want us to understand that we'll never get far until we learn to do this no matter what our emotional state of mind is no matter how turned off we might be over the things that people say and the manner in which they say it yes it's true every truth ain't meant to be heard yes it's true sometimes it is about the way you say something instead of what you're just saying but far more often than not the truth is supposed to usurp everything and when that young lady speaks don't even think about challenging her intelligence don't even think about challenging her ability to articulate her point of view you better know what the hell you're talking about when you come at her that's what I take away just as much as anything else I can't wait until she and I sit face to face one day and volley back and forth about what we feel what we believe what we stand for and why cuz I'm certainly different than her when it comes to some political positions she has taken and Beyond there is no doubt about that but I can't deny she's sharp as ATT Tack and you damn well better be if you going to come for her because ladies and gentlemen like it or not Candice Owens she's not going anywhere even when you thought she was gone she's around number eight on spotify's list of podcasts and climbing and she's in her 30s she's not going away no matter what summer you want she's not going away deal with that if not I get the impression she will make you before we go I want to mention that President Donald Trump will deliver an address tonight in prime time to the House and Senate lawmakers on Capitol Hill the speech will resemble something like a State of the Union Address meanwhile Democrats today have gone out of their way to post messages on social media about the current Trump Administration and what's happening to American lives the problem is they're all literally saying the same damn thing don't believe me check it out I win I will immediately bring prices down starting on day one that ain't true that's what you just heard since day one of Donald Trump's presidency prices are not down they're up inflation is getting worse better the prices of gross gas now you see why Stephen A Smith was in the polls as a presidential candidate see what I'm talking about you see that idiocy right there you talk about something people being toned deaf why the hell would 22 Democratic senators be literally echoing the same thing and think that would resonate with the American people all it shows is that the same fabric of our democracy is unchanging in the eyes of some of these officials and as a result the constituency they represents which is why Donald Trump is in office what do I have to come up to Capitol Hill and give you lessons seriously you don't get it all you did n Elizabeth Warren Cory Booker Chuck Schumer let's all get together let's put this in a prompter and all together allbe it in separate rooms we'll grab a microphone and say the same damn thing and that's what's going to resonate with the American people and then you wonder why you're no longer in power you wonder why Trump is in the White House you wonder why a vice president like JD Vance has the authority to spew in the direction of the president of another Nation don't you get what I've been telling you ladies and gentlemen I'mma put it at follow me the camera follow me let me give it to you I'mma use the saying from my old buddy God rest so Joe Madison the Black Eagle I'mma put it where the goats can get it please forgive me because I'm going to cuss here only for the purposes of accentuating a point about Donald Trump Chuck Schuman are typical politicians oh inflation is high oh look at the look at look at them pointing the fingers at the migrants oh look at them blaming immigration they don't care about you oh by the way look they don't care about you well why would you bother people from the lgbtq community why would you bother folks with transgender and all this why would you do that that is what the Democrats say that's what most politicians would say here's Trump their pieces of [ __ ] they don't give a [ __ ] about you it's rigged they've hoodwin you all the time they think you're a freaking joke they give you the middle finger anytime they want to here's Trump [ __ ] them they ain't worth [ __ ] and do you know what his followers say yeah yeah that's how we want you talking to those politicians who's been stealing our money all of these years it's not what he says it's how he says it he he does it with vitriol and Venom to show a disrespect to politicians who the public have no respect for because they feel they've been hoodwinked by those same politicians he's using it to separate himself from the Cesspool that is Capitol Hill and how does Capitol Hill respond by showing them they're still Capitol hell did you see me on The View Tuesday afternoon did you see when they said we don't believe there's a trump mandate I said oh really did you see the former press secretary for the White House come on I think Stephen A is wrong I don't believe what he said is correct Donald Trump has the lowest approval ratings in the first month or so or two months of a presidency in American history oh really but didn't he went all the swing States didn't his popularity Elevate within 89% of the counties in the United States of America didn't his popularity Elevate within the black community the Hispanic community and the young voters didn't he win the popular vote for the first time in 20 years as a republican nominee didn't he also win the electoral college vote isn't he in control of the White House don't the Republicans have the house and the Senate all of that happened but there's no Trump mandate you see the [ __ ] is it [ __ ] or is it just that the Democrats are so damn lost that they're actually going to convince themselves they can do the same old same Mo and still regain power both in the midterms and in the 2028 election I'm here to tell you that's not going to happen because Trump has the power now and he's manipulating the proceedings and in case you didn't notice one of his top boys Elon Musk Doge owns X who else was at the inauguration Jeff basos the man running Tick Tock and Lord knows who else and then you got folks like Candace Owens who's a trump supporter along with various others with their microphones their cameras and Their audience if you think the Liberals are overcoming that you go ahead and watch Schumer and those 2 one other Senators talk their driel JD Vance or Marco Ruby or somebody will be the next president in 2028 you'll have nobody but yourselves to blame as if it is addition of the Stephen A Smith show I ain't got got time to talk to this about this anymore hope y'all enjoyed C Owens she'll be back till then peace and love
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