Dennis Prager and Charlie Kirk on Biblical Distinctions, Campus Violence, and Why America's Founding Rests on the Torah

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anything else [Music] caught up in your presence [Music] [Music] thank you this morning [Music] [Music] I just want well I want to welcome you to Freedom night in America how are you glad to be here tonight [Applause] would you remain standing for just a moment with us we're seeing this song a moment ago those songs it reminded me of a 95 year old woman at one of our churches who during the worship time the music kind of got riled up it was really loud and she started jumping up and down and she started just enjoying herself and my dad turned to her and said do you you like this music and she said no I hate it but I love how it makes me feel amen what it does to me and uh there's a great spirit in this place here tonight you know this is our normal midweek church service we call the House of Prayer where all of our Believers come together we teach God's word and we pray together and so we want to do that tonight we want to just make sure that we stay in rhythm of making this place a house of prayer and maybe you're here for the first time in church in a long time but there's something very special that happens when we when we come together and agree together in prayer so in just a moment we're going to pray we're going to pray for our nation we're going to pray for our schools we're going to pray for all the things we're fighting for uh in our nation today but I also know there are people in this place maybe you've come here tonight to hear a amazing speaker you're gonna you're gonna hear that in just a moment but maybe you're here and when we're seeing this song I just need you maybe that's your your heart cry tonight I just need something I don't know what it is and there's a there's a void in your heart and you try to fill that void with many things that are fine pleasure money nothing wrong with those things but they just can't fill the void and so tonight the Bible says if you will call upon the name of the Lord call upon his name you will be saved so as we're praying for the needs of our nation and praying for our families and our children in just a moment I want to encourage you to do something if you sense that void in your life maybe you have things that are maybe you're blessed but you still have that void there's something missing you haven't found it yet he will call upon him tonight he will hear you he will answer your prayer just say God would you save me would you fill me with your presence and that's a prayer he will answer tonight so we're going to pray right now all across this place would you join me as I lead you in prayer Heavenly Father we lift up our nation to you tonight you told us that we are to pray for the welfare of our nation We Believe Lord that this nation was inspired it was God breathed we believe that and we pray for the United States of America tonight we pray for our leaders we pray for our president you've instructed us to pray for the president Lord we pray Lord you get a hold of his heart you would change his heart Lord if he won't change get him out of there and get somebody else in there who will lead this country the right way but we pray for our nation tonight Lord and father we pray for our schools and the school systems in America today somehow Lord there's always been a Revival that's taken place and Revival begins it begins with the young people always God let us start in our schools let us start with our young people today we pray for our students and our schools there'll be a turn in the school system Lord we pray for our kids who are represented in this place tonight I pray for kids that are are far from you tonight and they're breaking their parents heart I pray you would just bring sons and daughters and prodigal sons and daughters back home to to you Lord tonight let there be a shift in these families father we pray for people in this place right now who are sick in their bodies you instructed us in the Bible to pray for those who are sick to believe in our hearts and we just want to thank you right now in advance for what you're going to do that that needs are going to be met and just if you're here and you're sick right now just say God would you touch my body would you heal me tonight father we pray for those who are going through emotional distress right now they're just they're just confused you are not the god of confusion you're the god of clarity and a sound mind I pray that A sound mind would be restored and those who were distressed here tonight and for this night tonight where so many have gathered together we just want you to know that we honor you God this is your house and you said that my house shall be a House of Prayer so we're starting this night out right tonight where we're praying unto you for those who are far from you I pray they will just call upon your name right now call upon the name of the Lord just say these words with me just say heavenly father would you save me you come into my life Let Your Presence be felt in my heart tonight and I give you my life I'm going to follow you in Jesus name amen amen come on one more time let's put our hands together and just thank God for the power of Prayer and what God does through prayer well as you're seated tonight you can turn around and just give somebody a high five and say it's going to be a great night and you can be seated [Music] I'm going to ask our ushers to please come forward at this time and as I mentioned a moment ago this is our regular midweek service and so we always take up an offering at our midweek service if you're a guest here tonight and you appreciate the fact that this church has taken a stand and drawn A Line in the Sand you believe in Freedom night in America would you participate and help us this is our Outreach offering Night board doing so many things to rescue young ladies from Human Trafficking and polygamy you can be part of that go online and just read about all the great things that are happening through this community and we invite you to be a part of that and be a giver tonight and just be a blessing to so many people who need this blessing tonight so father I pray you bless the offering it's taken tonight in the name of Jesus Amen well uh just before I induce our our host tonight there's some great things happening here at Dream City Church this is Easter season take a look at this who is Jesus Christ when you're confronted with Jesus Christ what is your reaction why cannot we escape him why is he in our conscience and in our mind is he just a revolutionary hero why is he something more he only lived 33 years he never traveled more than 100 miles some people say that he represented the status quo Jesus Christ is not the establishment Christ he's building another kingdom he's building an eternal Kingdom we know that he had all the characteristics of a man and yet very interestingly the Bible says that he never committed a sin he claimed to be the unique only begotten incarnate Son of God he was not just another great man he was God in the flesh and all the ethics that he taught never a man speak like that man [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] we invite you all to join us for Easter here at Dream City Church would you all stand to your feet it's my great joy and pleasure tonight to introduce uh my wonderful friend a man who last night was in Jeopardy of even losing his life for taking a stand but he's flown from California over to Phoenix here today to lead this great Freedom night of America would you welcome our great friend Charlie Kerr because he comes and shares thank you [Applause] thank you everybody thank you thank you please take a seat everybody thank you thank you so I don't want to take too much time because we have a very special guest tonight that we're going to learn a lot from but I do want to give you a little bit of a summary of the last 24 hours and kind of everything that we experienced and everything that we were kind of going through at Turning Point USA and so many of you know uh the work that we do at Turning Point USA is we do work on college campuses so you don't have to and our goal is to make sure that your grandkids live in a free country and to make sure that the ideas of freedom and liberty are passed down from one generation to the other and we do this at Turning Point USA in proven and effective ways in fact we now have more High School chapters than College Chapters at Turning Point USA we have hundreds of thousands of students involved some of whom are here tonight and one of the things we do at Turning Point USA and we believe firmly and our core is that we should go to we should intentionally go to places where we are in the philosophical religious and ideological minority that we need to go to places where we are not always going to get the warmest welcome and in fact I think one of the reasons that we have lost our country is that far too often conservatives are afraid to go into the left-wing bastions and speak the truth and so we had this campus event scheduled at University of California Davis for quite some time and what what happened last night was something I've never experienced in my now 10 years of doing this I have given over 120 speeches on campus I've given over thousands and thousands of lectures and as many of you know radio and podcasting I've never seen what has happened and what has unfolded because it wasn't just the students or the antifa terrorists what unfolded in the last 24 hours is so telling about how the elites and how leaders are involving themselves in the incitement of violence against conservatives and I and I'll prove this to you and I'll show it to you it's it's disturbing in more ways than one so yesterday morning we were hosting our radio program and they were already talking a big game at University California Davis and the Sacramento Bee which is the local newspaper in the Sacramento area published a newspaper article calling me a fascia speaker and that's not true but you know I can roll my eyes and say whatever but the byline of the article took my breath away it said Charlie Kirk is coming to University of California Davis who has openly called for the lynching of trans people I have not only have I never said that I haven't even remotely ever gotten close it is a fabricated total completely fake lie but the Sacramento Bee ran with them and so immediately we mentioned it on our program we emailed the head of the Sacramento Bee we said hey this is an internet rumor of somebody that's a trans activist that came after Charlie because he didn't like his strong opinion when he said quote in the 1950s and 1960s men would not have allowed men to compete against women in women's sports or go into women's locker rooms they would have dealt with it that was the exact quote I never said lynching I never thought of it and what I meant by dealt with it is that the local district attorney would have arrested a man for going into the locker room for exposing himself to other women I was very clear about that and I said repeatedly peaceful peaceful peaceful peaceful I went out of my way to say that on the program so the Sacramento Bee writes this but it didn't stop there and I'm going to show you this video in a second the the chancellor of the University of California Davis uh whole system of schools who earns 850 000 a year made a video where he then told the entire student body that Charlie Kirk Has Come into campus and he is openly called for violence against transgender people now you know our Amazing Security team was Fielding death threats towards me and my family all week before this and so what happened was a planned orchestrated campaign on complete lies trying to Gin up the activist fervor and the energy and praise God nobody died last night see and I'm not that's not an exaggeration okay praise God nobody was seriously hospitalized okay a police officer was injured and assaulted they tried to gain access into the building by breaking glass by using quasi-military type tactics graffiti spray painting hurling projectiles death threats in the face um you know in harassment you're going to see that videos in a second but it was so telling to me that people that are tasked with a fiduciary responsibility to run a school they they are committed to lying to the population and says you got to ask yourself why it's almost as if they wanted a riot so big that they had to cancel my appearance at University California Davis and I'll tell you why I got this from Dennis Prager which is they get four years of uninterrupted indoctrination of students at UC Davis they're terrified that Charlie Kirk would get 70 minutes [Applause] the university professor said it would be a big statement if Charlie spoke to an empty room 900 students showed up to our event last evening at University of California Davis so I'm going to show this short video and then I'll add some comments and then I'm going to kind of show some lessons and I'm going to give you three reasons why we do this at Turning Point USA and then I'm going to stop the whole woe is me thing because it's not about me it's about you because if they can do this to me they will do this to you they will lie about you they will smear you and slander you and I'm going to tell you how we're going to deal with it you're going to see first the chancellor who earns 850 000 a year say a material falsehood and a lie and repeat it to try to stoke incitement of a mob against the speaker he doesn't like and then you'll see the activity of violence that happening and praise God no one was killed watch these videos many of you have reached out to me and others regarding tonight's event organized by the registered student organization Turning Point USA or TP USA at UC Davis thank you for sharing your distress at a student group hosting a speaker who is a well-documented proponent of misinformation and hate and who has advocated for violence against transgender individuals under UC policy campuses may not prohibit student organizations such as TP USA from inviting these speakers even if the speaker's intended speech is loathsome and hurtful to me and to others in our Campus Community with respect to concerns related to violence UC policy permits denial of requests if the speaker will present a clear and present danger to the campus our Council also knows that there is a similarly heavy burden for criminal prosecution for excitement of violence please be assured that we are monitoring the event closely to determine if a threat or incitement develops that meets that threshold we can't control how these groups operate but we can work together to neutralize and negate their influence so having to speak to an empty room would make a powerful state [Applause] [Music] thank you everybody [Music] [Music] all right [Applause] [Music] right back [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] thank you yeah and the footage goes on for a while and praise God the police did the job their job because that really could have got out of control but let me let me summarize a couple lessons and a police officer did have to have medical care treated a couple lessons from this that I think are important because some people said well Charlie why do you do this well number one we do this to encourage the conservative students that we have on campus there that they are not alone and that you have to stand for your beliefs regardless of what they try to do to you that's number one number two we do this to try to teach people something we try to teach them that there is another world view out there in fact at the event we every event we do at Turning Point USA if you disagree you're allowed to go to the front of the line you're allowed to ask any question of your choosing and we did that last evening the University president would never mention that but the third reason we do this which is the most important reason because I got a couple emails today from people saying Charlie you're the one stoking the Violence by attending don't you know better and I think that's such that's so incorrect because we do this most importantly to remind the radical left that they don't run this country [Applause] because they're threatened by a short lecture where people who disagree can speak but you need to go through the effort so what is the what is the lesson for all of you well you got to defend yourself you do and we did defend ourselves and believe it or not the Sacramento be issued an apology and a retraction after all the violence of course and don't worry we're drafting up a pretty spicy lawsuit and they're very very nervous at the Sacramento will be very nervous seeing that I don't want to get in the courts but when they materially say something that I have never even thought let alone is against everything I believe it's not even a matter of something that's alive it is against my values is what they said I believe then I'm not going to put up with that and there needs to be a price for it but I I want to also say this for all of you which is they are now running for the hills doing retractions and apologies and they've been silent and it's a reminder for all of you that the truth wins and that is the Cornerstone of Christianity everybody is that the truth will set you free they have to lie it's that University Chancellor could have said look I don't like Charlie Kirk but guys don't do violence on our campus and let me tell you there's actually an internet rumor circling that's not true and let's not be you know nasty instead he's inciting it because there's a Brokenness there's a Darkness there we have to be Salt and Light to these people but for all of you that are experiencing some form of your own individual torment I want you to know that the reason we do these events is to remind you you're not alone to show you that there's many people that share your values that's why we do what we do at Turning Point USA and it's also to show that we can beat these people that these people are beatable when we embrace the truth and we go to places where we're not always comfortable that's where we make the biggest impact and I can't think of a better segue to introduce someone who has taught me so much I encourage everyone out here whether you are religious or not religious you need to take this man's Bible commentary seriously I'm telling you as a bible-believing Christian who believes in the inerrancy of scripture listening and walking through his Genesis commentary significantly enriched my faith in Jesus Christ in God in the scriptures understanding the history and the inerrancy of the word of God and not to mention the necessity of believing in God this man that you're about to hear from tonight has spoken with more human beings than any other person on the planet on radio and otherwise 40 years on radio thousands of columns he speaks fluent Biblical Hebrew as well as other six other languages there is not a question you can ask about the Torah that he will not be able to answer with Whimsy and joy and be able to understand the specifics and there will be a chance remember I told you about this in the Q a for you to ask the hardest question about religion or the Old Testament you can cook up but Dennis Prager more than anything else the reason why I admire him and I learned so much from him is he fights evil is he doesn't just talk about it he fights evil every day ladies and gentlemen join me in welcoming the legendary Dennis Prager thank you okay [Applause] after that I can only disappoint you when I watched that College president it reaffirmed a very dark view I have of college presidents I I believe I've said this a number of times on my radio show one qualification for College president in 95 percent of our colleges is that you be a coward cowardice is a qualification for presidency of a university or any of its Deans by the way this was true I was at Columbia University in the 1970s some a little after the Civil War and I saw it then this everything that we're seeing today was born then and there were kids who took over the president's offices took them over just took them over took over Dean's offices nothing was done to them and and then it was in the name of anti-war today it's anti-racism then it was anti-war by the way they really didn't care about the war they cared about being drafted just it's important to note that because the moment the draft stopped all the demonstrations stopped so what Paul Pott did in Cambodia which is unknown and unspoken of the Hitler right massacres of a third of the Cambodian people by the Communists that took over didn't have one demonstration on one campus in the United States of America because it didn't matter they cared about Vietnamese like I care about uh I don't know some extraterrestrial group so it's a disgrace he lied I mean the man he lied he materially lied yes and again I find no joy in this but we're probably going to sue him and sue him for a lot of money because he caused a lot of good for what he did that's right so I'm all yours so welcome Dennis um Dennis by the way give this man Applause this man uh we should we should all say a prayer to God of Thanksgiving that Charlie never went to college it's only a question that the Lord himself can answer would Charlie be the same Charlie had he been poisoned for four years I don't know the answer I suspect not but you never know you know I did an hour on my radio show yesterday tell me if your kid came back from college a finer human being did anyone ever encounter that you know my kid went to uh and then you named the school and as a result of college he or she is deeper wiser Kinder more respectful to us his or her parents has anyone ever said that there's any yeah okay fine Hillsdale that's very that's very possible that's correct yes okay so Dennis there's so many important things we could talk about but I do want to focus on your remarkable work on the first five books of the Bible the pentateuch the Books of Moses the Torah which I I think you understand better than almost any living person on the planet today and how it applies to today's time which is honestly the most important but one of the things you talk about that I think can frame this discussion is something I have repeated is the first 11 books of Genesis in particular lay out distinctions you were talking about this earlier which is God created a world where distinctions matter and since the 1970s the left has done everything they can to destroy distinctions talk about what distinctions God set up in creation and why does it matter I wrote this first in the 1980s so this is not new and I and I knew then how dangerous the left was the left is is the anti-bible that's what they are it is the antithesis of the Bible and I I'd like to share with you I know you've heard you've heard me and you've read me on this I'm very flattered uh what did God do after creating the world what did God do the other six days whether you take day literally or not is of no interest to me I happen to think it means era because Yom in Hebrew means era just as it does in English if you say in our day you don't mean today but it doesn't matter if you take it literally I don't have I don't have a problem with you but what did God do the other six days what did he do and the answer is God made order the left makes disorder to understand the left you must understand it is a force for chaos because it's very hard to understand the left if you say you're Christian I'm a Jew so tell me where do I go to know what you believe let's say here read the Bible very simple okay what would you say what would a leftist say the New York Times okay by the way that that may well be an honest answer that is correct but they don't they don't know where to send you because it's not written it is it's felt leftism is felt and the feeling emanates from undoing divine order order reflects God that's the point so I listed in the 1980s these differences that God creates man and God man and animal man and woman good and evil holy and profane those are those are the five big oh yes thank you that's correct well you know Charlie knows my work a little better than I do it is it is a combination of embarrassing and comforting i i i i i alternate between both reactions that's correct man and nature thank you that is that's and that's a big one today because they they are worshiping nature so that that is why I say the most important verse in my opinion everyone has their own choice in the Bible is Genesis 1 1 in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth if you don't accept that it's it's not really worth going to Genesis 1 2. what's the second most important verse Genesis 1 2. and it was all tohuvavo which is untranslatable it said null and void it really means chaos if you don't accept one one you will accept one too that is the left the left is one two you Christian meju we're one one they're one two in a it took me a lifetime to figure this out because it's very complex how does somebody really say men give birth how do you get to the point where people say what is not just a lie but it's an absurdity it's is it's as true as two and two is six that men give birth it means that they live the chaos of Genesis 1 2. and it is done by by these by obliterating distinctions by the way one other point which I know Charlie knows I'm thrilled uh and that is the Hebrew Biblical Hebrew word for Holy kadosh means separate holy is distinct holy and distinctiveness are synonymous and and Dennis part of what we're living through is the destruction of distinctions and explain give some details for that because every one of the six and there also is the distinction between life and death if you wanted to add a seventh but well and if I were to add an eighth between beautiful and ugly yes that's right no it's very important that it's a very important distinction God cares about Beauty look at all the details about building the Tabernacle the details about the the priest's clothing though there's a very great emphasis on beauty that is why I've always defended when I remember is when I was at the college kids would get up and say oh the the Catholic Church spends all this money all these impoverished people in South America and they spend all this money on cathedrals and I thought what a stupid argument let's say you melted all the gold in any Cathedral how much would it help the poor people in any given City in Latin America or or wherever else it might be and then guess what they don't have a cathedral the one thing that gave them uplift and inspiration is now done with because the nihilists of the left have destroyed it in the name of of giving people some money which would be spent in such a tiny amount of time anyway Beauty there is a war against every one of the distinctions so since you asked me I'll be very brief so what does the serpent say in the garden of Eden's story eat from the Tree of knowledge and you will be like God knowing good and evil and what it really means is determining Good and Evil that is what the left does the left determines good and evil not God that is why they hate God as a belief because God is the determiner of Good and Evil that's why they hate us religious people we are their biggest enemy and Christians in particular because it's so much more numerous I as a Jew constantly say the most persecuted religious group in the world today are Christians with the exception of the of the uh of of one Muslim group in China which is a terrible terrible thing but that's one confined place but in Africa massacres of Christians take place by Muslim Fanatics regularly and the hatred of Christians in the United States is is is is completely understandable because you are the only organized opposition there are individual opponents of the left but organized is only Christians and not enough Christians by the way just say the least the Anglican Church in England has just announced that it wants to refer to God In non-binary terms the Anglican Church it's the Church of England no more he I have a very big essay in my Genesis yet you have three options he she or it that's right so that I don't know what they'll do they'll just keep saying I guess God or maybe they'll say Z I'm not you you're not laughing because you're not familiar you're not up to date on your wokism I'll bet you I wonder if even Charlie knows this last week in the Washington Post it had an article on a non-binary person and used the term Zer and z e and z-e-r not in quotes it is now part of Washington Post language non-binary pronouns that this is a sea change and that's not insignificant because language needs to represent truth yeah language needs to represent something that we can all agree upon and communicate and that is one way to get rid of distinctions isn't it you get rid of distinctions by having confusion of language well that's it so the war against distinction so by the way the male female one is the most dramatic perhaps but it is it is not new when I was in college I was taught men and women are basically the same the war against male female distinctions is is now Generations long I heard that men and women are basically the same and it I I didn't put two and two together realizing how significant it was but I knew it was nonsense and it's when I came up with the idea that my grandmother who never went to high school understood life better than most phds do and she knew that men and women were basically different you you have to go to college not to know that men and women are basically different and by the way the the reason one of the reasons that I oppose same-sex marriage and I testified in Congress against it and by the way I say this I just want you to know my wife and I are God Parents to a gay couple's children in in private life these people are dear dear souls in my life and I want to make that clear but that doesn't mean we redefine marriage for the first time in history I have a motto which I think is worth adopting all everyone should adopt compassion in the micro standards in the macro that's a very important distinction to keep anyway I knew there was something very wrong because of the the key argument that was made and the key argument that was made for same-sex marriage is gender doesn't matter love does gender doesn't matter and I realized oh oh that is a very very downhill slope for society gender doesn't matter okay that is the end of humanity as we know it if gender doesn't matter and that is what is now happening do you know how many young people now in in high school for example an increasingly elementary schools say that they are the opposite sex this is the first time in in human history that we have this development it is all socially induced it is not natural to people it is not natural for a high school girl to say I'm really a Boy by the way how does she know she's a boy seriously think about it for a moment how absurd it is you don't know what the hell it is to be a boy you don't have a clue we have different brains forget we have different genitals we have different brains there's a male brain and a female brain you don't know what it is like for example not to find anything it is a uniquely male characteristic if a transgendered male that is woman becomes a male starts not finding anything I will start taking this much more seriously or my favorite male female difference they put uh I know you've heard this too but they they some college that had a test they put some college boys and then college girls alone one at a time in a room for hours they could just stare out and think that's all they could do so they asked the males what did you think about and they asked them females individually what did you think about so the males to no one's shock thought about sex and sports what was revelatory to me was the female answer it was revelatory they reviewed conversations just for the record there isn't a man alive who has ever reviewed a conversation that's why I I I always tell wives when you ask your husband what are you thinking and he says nothing really he is not lying to you now Dennis a good segue is distinctions will cease to exist in society if good people don't fight to preserve them well that is exactly right look you fight and I fight I I have another motto or meme there are three types of good people those who fight those who do nothing and those who help the fighters helping the fighters is as important as fighting that's right if you help TP USA or prageru or any of the fighters you are doing as much good as the fighters not everyone is either in a position or has the temperament to be a fighter he does and I do and I recognize not everybody has that but everybody can help Fighters and let me tell you something if the fighters don't get supplies they lose so it's as important for for the for you to help the fighters you can't do nothing but yes America is in the fight of its life that this is it's very sad you know I wrote a I wrote a column every week and I hope I hope you look this up there because there are a thousand of them on the Internet and they're really not dated because I write about big themes and I I have I've written about this on on many occasions on the need to fight and how America is in the fight of its life and we have never had a fight like this this is this is a unique period in American history I said to Charlie on the way here I said I don't know who it's worse for those of us old enough to remember America when Superman was Superman when you know what is it uh truth justice and the American way that was his motto you know Superman is no longer an American member of the world yes Superman of the world a few years ago in the comic strip he stood in front of the United Nations and renounced his American citizenship this is by the way is a great example of the difference between liberal and left liberals started Superman liberals in the 1930s and 40s and 50s loved America the left hates America for good reason the American ideal is the opposite of leftism and he he said I am no longer an American I am a citizen of the world so I asked this question who has it worse those of us who have seen the decline or young people who never saw America at its best I don't know the answer I don't know if there is an answer but my heart breaks for both groups but I was going to tell you the column I wrote a few weeks ago so I founded a synagogue in in Los Angeles and I teach the Bible there every every Saturday and it's a very great source of my strength we could talk about the Sabbath and if you like Charlie and we we say a prayer for America every week we have for decades and one of the lines is oh God bless the United States of America a beacon of light and freedom in the world and it was maybe the hardest column I ever wrote that I have suggested to the board of my synagogue that we change the wording it is no longer a beacon of light and Liberty in the world in fact America is the greatest exporter of toxic ideas on Earth today the British medical journal did something I have never seen this past week it attacked doctors the British medical journal attacked American doctors for giving children hormone blocking hormone blockers [Applause] the American medical profession is a disgrace the American educational profession is a disgrace the American teachers are a disgrace not every teacher not every doctor obviously as a profession it's a disgrace we are sending abroad this is the country that was the beacon of light and democracy so I have said let us just all through the words may it continue to be a beacon of light and democracy but I can't lie in a prayer I can't claim what is no longer true and you could cry when you read that column so so Dennis couple thoughts here before we open it up for some questions that I think is really important especially when it comes to today's time so you talk about we talk about distinctions we talk about order can you just speak a little bit about America's founding roots and how the American Founders knew the Torah and in fact how Deuteronomy was the most quoted of any book secular or religious in the writing of the Constitution The Federalist Papers and the Declaration of Independence we teach our kids in government schools that America was a secular Nation but in reality it was the Bible that founded the philosophical tradition of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world yep by the way let me just address a word to those of you who are Christian which is I'm sure most of you and you I'll say it's a it's a little um confrontational but but only said with love as you probably know I have a love affair with America's Christians and by the way it's reciprocated I feel very loved by America's Christians but you you're not a serious Christian if you don't know the first five books that that is the that's everything rests on the first five books the Torah Jesus would agree with me love your neighbor as yourself as in the Torah that's where it is Love Your Love The Stranger is in the Torah love God is in the Torah of the Ten Commandments are in the Torah of The Exodus is the Torah the creation is in the Torah of the garden of Eve is in the Torah the Torah of the first five books you have to know that to know what it means to be a Jew or a Christian so that's why I've been writing I I've written three of the five books I'm working on numbers I didn't go in order to my amazement when I did Deuteronomy which I bet you one out of 50 college students could identify what Deuteronomy is and I noted on My Show by the way do you know what virtually every American home had 100 years ago and 150 years ago if they could afford it they had a Bible and a piano how many homes have Bibles and pianos today very very few well there you go all 35 of you that clapped [Applause] I I let's put it this way God wants us to love beauty and art needs God it's a great combination in the Bible and the piano so you need to know Deuteronomy yes he's heard me note I did not know this the founders quoted Deuteronomy more than any other biblical book and any other secular book the second most quoted author was montesquia and by the way you'll find this of interest Jesus cites Psalms the most and second most Deuteronomy the founders knew the Bible the Torah in particular so well that Jefferson and Franklin suggested that the Great Seal of the United States depict the Jews leaving Egypt and they these two were uh were the least religious in the sense of being they were not doctrinally Christian they were they were god-centered even Jefferson but it just shows you how much the Torah meant to the to the the founders of this country so it is uh it is very important to know those books so the final thing Dennis and then we'll do some questions one thing I think you deserve repeated credit for was your moral Clarity when it really mattered and you're sitting right here Dennis on a stage where this church was tested and a relationship and a friendship was formed that has now impacted millions of people and this local area I'll tell you Dennis the story and for some other people but it's directly connected with what you called in the spring of 2020. so Dennis in the spring of 2020 for those that do not know had the moral Clarity and courage to write a column and go on his radio program and say that the lockdowns were the worst mistake in human history am I saying that correctly Dennis worst mistake and I'm going to let you talk about mistake versus tragedy and because some people don't understand versus evil yeah that's right but as you know far too many churches shut down and were not willing to do the right thing well Dennis I got to know the amazing pastors here at Dream City church and we had an opportunity to host president Trump in the summer of 2020. I think some of you were at that event and every other place canceled us they didn't want us Dream City Church under a lot of threats and a lot of pressure a lot of Public Health stuff they stood by us and we had that event and it was a major turning point in the local area and it was just amazing and so Dennis you should feel comfortable speaking freely about the churches that didn't do the right thing because this church did do the right thing and they were bold and courageous but Dennis talk about how disappointed you were in so many pastors and churches that rolled over and did not fight for liberty with the lockdowns it's very simple the only hope for America lies in its religious community religious Jews and Christians if they fail it's over because there's no guarantees this country will continue what's it what is it what did Franklin say it's a republic if you can keep it maybe we can't keep it so this was a test and by the way you must include synagogues synagogues and churches by and large failed they they were obedient not only to secular Authority but to irrational secular Authority I mean of course your obedient to rational secular Authority I would hope religious people stop at red lights I mean that that makes perfect sense I'm not for Anarchy the Damage Done to the society with a lockdown with the lockdowns what was done by shutting schools children are not recovered yet from what happened the economy is it was was hurt horribly the bank the bank issue is only one manifestation people got used to being given money for not working which is exactly morally like giving people heroin free money is as addictive as free drugs I think it is harder for most humans to get off benefits than it is to get off heroin I mean that literally there are riots in France because they're raising the macron a leftist wants to raise the Social Security age there to 64. there are riots front page of today's newspapers the rioting over it and they get all people over 62 I can't believe they get 6 000 Euros a month for for doing nothing they the the article opens of a couple that this year will be visiting Greece uh and and uh and other places they're just living the life of the of the wealthy to because of of the free money that they're given but there's nobody to support them when it started socialist governments in Europe it was four young people working to support every one older person today it's 1.5 people supporting everyone soon it will be one supporting one you can't have that it doesn't work four to one can work and by the way you know why people are having fewer children because of secularism the great killer of society religious people have children secular people are worried about carbon emissions and so why would I have a child because my child will expel carbon dioxide I'm ruining the planet if I have a child got to go to college to come up with something that's stupid [Applause] so thank you so I I read and read and read everything about the lockdowns struck me as just damaging what it will increase poverty on Earth increase starvation on Earth all of which it did and I have a test case thank God I never thought I would live to say this God bless Sweden I never thought I would say that in my life nobody there even believes in God and I'm saying God bless Whedon any swedes here you're all pointing to one person okay there is one Swede in the audience tuck tuck Sweden was the test case they didn't close down they didn't shut schools for one day for kids under 16 not one day by the way guess what the first college in America to shut down was Harvard isn't that fitting the ivy league is pathetic pathetic morally and intellectually and scientifically in every other way [Applause] so I wrote in April of 2020 this was the greatest mistake in history and I made it clear not the greatest evil obviously not those you know what what Mao did to the Chinese and Hitler did to the Jews I mean obviously those are evils but this was the greatest International mistake and of course I was I I was laughed at and mocked and and Etc which only enables me to sleep even better it does by the way just a word on that because he has the same thing and I hope I hope it registers with Charlie if you want to touch the world there is something much worse than being attacked being ignored and I know that so the more they attack me the more I realize what is the old saying when you fly over the target there's more Flack that's correct we're that flew over the target right now I want you to know it's a competition in my mind for the most dishonest profession you have no idea what a competition this is it College presidents and Deans is it teachers unions is it the American Medical Association and uh I I just don't know uh which it'll be but I have to say this if I know you have a degree in public health I assume you're stupid is that Leviticus I'm sorry I said oh is that it Leviticus I could say yes and nobody knows no I would have no idea so what the hell Leviticus 11. Leviticus 11 exactly actually right in the talmud it says all the good doctors go the best doctors go to hell the second holiest book in Judaism is the talmud two thousand years old and there is a line there I'll give it to you in Hebrew to prove to you it's real the best doctors go to hell and for years no one knew what it meant and then and now we know and now we know that is exact by the way just for the record guess raise your hand if you know what is on the Liberty Bell what sentence is inscribed look it's I I didn't expect any hands to go up except for Charlie's and it's really it's this is look at what I I didn't know this till I read it I but you should know this he tells you so much about the founders there is one verse on the Liberty Bell and it's from Leviticus it shows you how well they knew their Torah the founders that they took a Leviticus verse and put it on the Liberty Bell and you shall Proclaim Liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants Leviticus 25. it's beautiful let's get to some questions everybody let's line up um because of the quality of Dennis tonight we might go a little overtime is that okay Joe maybe a little bit just is that okay good great um so I want to get these questions really focused guys on religion Faith Torah Old Testament if it's politics you guys could call into our shows about that right honestly you know that doesn't really interest me tonight it's such a special opportunity to talk about things that are of Eternal consequence obviously you have a question we'll let you do it but if it's politics we're probably just going to kind of just give a short answer and move on so let's try to get to the meat of the issue and we'll start right there hi my name is Melissa and in Second Kings God took up the Prophet Elijah in a whirlwind much like we Christians call The Rapture and we're very much excited and waiting for are the Jews awaiting a Rapture like us so thank you Melissa for the question so I I get many questions from Christians on the radio and in forums like this and I I always debate because I debate how long I should spend on it because we I could talk about this for the rest of the evening so let me just explain something in general and this is not a defense and it's not it let me even go back further forgive me I have no issue with the theological differences between Judaism and Christianity and by the way I'll tell you why because I don't measure people by their beliefs but by their behavior now Christians have a slightly harder time with that because theology is truly Central to the the Christian Mission and Outlook and so on but I I have brought I I have no doubt tens of thousands of people back to church this Jew has brought tens of thousands of people back to church and I am thrilled that I have done so and sometimes Christians hearing the person on the radio say Dennis just want you to know it was you a Jew who brought me back to church and they then says then I will get a call why are you so happy don't you want to bring them to synagogue but the Jewish calling is to bring people to God and the Ten Commandments and the Bible not to Judaism if you want to convert to Judaism you're more than welcome but it's not our call our call is to bring you to Sinai where we got the Ten Commandments where the world should get the ten commandments so I I it doesn't matter to me that there are theological differences I love what you're doing or irrespective of whether I share every aspect of your theology Catholics and Protestants don't share the same theology but are they not United in in the battle for God and Bible hopefully they are okay having so that was my long preface to a short answer the Messiah plays a much bigger role in Christian faith than in Jewish faith Christian Christianity got it from Judaism that they didn't invent it as Christians of the first to note but it it while it is one of the 13 principles of the Jewish faith according to maimonides the greatest Jewish thinker who ever lived and those 13 principles are generally accepted among Jews who take Judaism seriously nevertheless it is it is not as Central so uh what will and and one's final third what will happen it's like when people ask me I am adamant that there is an afterlife adamant if there is a good God there is an afterlife if if there's no afterlife God is not good I mean so I'm that's logic that's not theologic that's logic uh but when people ask me so Dennis what happens in the afterlife I go I the only time I ever think about it is when somebody calls my show and asks me how do I know what happens in the afterlife no one has reported so I I there's I don't speculate about it I these what happens is less important to me than that it happens okay bless you thank you thank you next question sorry yes sir in October of 2019 there were all the Freedom Fighters Freedom protesters in Hong Kong and all the world's leaders said leave them alone they have a right to be there in a month they were all gone because of covid do you see a correlation there or is that just happenstance so I'll really have a strange answer for you I I I don't know that kovid was deliberately Unleashed on the world it was obviously Unleashed whether it was deliberate or not I don't have a position I can only say this this will really blow all your minds Jews Jews Judaism forget Jews Judaism does not believe in a devil it is not a Jewish belief I know Satan appears in job for example but Satan in Hebrew just means adversary or prosecutor so I will tell you and I don't I'm only one person it's not the most important thing but I will tell you that the last three years started me understanding why people would believe in in a metaphysical evil figure who brings evil on the Earth it is hard for me to imagine that so many terrible things happen so quickly and there isn't something diabolical about it uh I mean this country was doing really well I don't care if you hate Donald Trump I don't care if you love Donald Trump Donald Trump is not the issue for me America and the world are the issues this country was thriving under that President period end of issue and whether or not there was Mischief in the last election he would have won by a landslide that even cheating could not have under undone were it not for covid so uh did the devil bring covet is it has has the Diabolical taken over children's hospitals the biggest Advocates of removing healthy girls breasts because they say they're boys that's diabolical even if you don't believe in God or the devil it's diabolical what we are doing to young people in this country the creme de La Creme Boston Children's Hospital the most well-known Children's Hospital in the country affiliated with Harvard Medical School takes out ads come here we'll take your breasts off this this without the devil it's explicable but with the devil it seems a little more clear thank you [Applause] um hi sorry um first of all I love your show um and I just wanted to ask which one uh Charlie show um I want you to know I knew he would say that I'm a good friend of Charlie uh I just I just wanted to ask you a question about crypto um what are your thoughts on digital currency and um what is the biblical stance on it yeah all they do this briefly thank you for listening and for the support um so when you have a crisis there's usually an agenda by the leaders to bring something new in because of that crisis the 2008 financial crisis we got diversity Equity inclusion we got wokism we also got basically the nationalization of our student loan industry we got Universal not Universal Health Care but Obamacare I'm very afraid that with this new bank crisis that we're seeing which by the way Credit Suisse might collapse in the next couple of hours which is really scary that's a 1.5 trillion dollar Swiss bank when the Swiss bank start to collapse that's not a good sign my big concern is they're going to now go to an acronym of four letter and I want to make sure I get this right it's cbdc it might be cdbc which is centralized Bank digital currency this is a this is a effectively a way to erase the dollar and to go to a one world unilateral currency one of the reasons why I'm such a proponent though of decentralized blockchain technology and why I really support Christie gnomes veto of the bill in South Dakota is that cryptocurrency and decentralized currency is one of the few ways we can push back against the Klaus Schwab great reset Elites to try to put in this cbdc currency I know it's very wonky everybody but I encourage you to really be vigilant about a new digital dollar they're trying to bring soon they're trying to do it it is it's wonky it's abstract it's in the clouds and for those of you that care about eschatology and end times I'm not an expert but it talks about in great detail about the attempt to try to unify the world through a One World Currency and we should do everything we can to push back against that so I'm a big fan of crypto for that reason even though it's rather unstable let me add a Biblical proof to what Charlie said God doesn't want this one world thing yes he wants everybody to worship Him and and his moral law that is correct but uh everyone with his own Nation when Abraham is blessed it's very powerful through you will be blessed all the nations of the Earth God wants different nations and the proof is the Tower of Babel they spoke one language and God decided look at what they do when they're unified I'm going to get I'm going to mix them up and give them a lot of languages it's a very powerful story by the way if you just applauded you have a moral obligation to read the rational Bible that's the name of my commentary folks let me make something clear I didn't spend the last eight years and it will end up 10 years writing a commentary on the first five books of the Bible to get wealthy in fact I regarded nobody writes a commentary on Deuteronomy to make money is that fair okay and it gets worse the next one is numbers no no the real title is in the wilderness though yes it is but it doesn't nobody knows that except people who know the Hebrew but thank you for noting that I will do that but nevertheless prager's commentary on numbers sounds like a math book hey it's I don't know how many it'll sell but if you really want to understand what this is about please do read it the rational Bible thank you yeah thank you yeah rational numbers that's well I like that and just to add on Dennis when we're at Ricky we could do this all night Genesis 11 the the people of Babel they wanted to make a name upon themselves not to glorify God and God said let us go down and see what man has done and it's not good for what they're doing Fame is one of the many many false gods in life and I have a great motto that you should take to your heart and your mind the famous or rarely significant and the significant are rarely famous next question [Applause] truth justice in the American way again that's a beautiful question by the way they have the most amazing family they're homeschooling they're incredible but Dennis is asking how do we get Superman back to fighting for truth justice in the American way again it's a very good question that that that question is a beautiful way of explaining the battle that we're in now how do we get Superman back that is a perfect way of of as a metaphor for our condition when does he when does he resume fighting for the truth justice and the American way that is correct you know I think about this when I was a kid television it was not 24 7. they they generally ended broadcasting by midnight some of you old enough to remember that will remember that so what happened at midnight they would show the America do you know this you may not even know this this is what would happen on your television set if you were up at midnight they would show the American flag they would play the national anthem and then the screen went blank until I don't know 6 a.m 5 a.m whenever they resume so I remember I I loved staying up till midnight to seeing the flag and hearing the national anthem and I didn't realize it I loved this country I didn't realize I loved this country till I was in college and how it happened is not not important but I I did and I wonder how many kids today get the chills when they see the flag and hear the national anthem and if you don't get chilled by the national anthem of your country your country is in jeopardy it's beautiful [Applause] hi Dennis they both just have and we wanted to ask if you say hi to Otto Snoopy Megan and Nathan for us okay so she is referring to something you should know about 280 weeks in a row I have done a fireside chat from my home it's at prageru every week and it will touch you and your children's lives Otto is my Bulldog he is the most famous dog in America and I am proud to say it has not gone to his head he is as humble as when we brought him home as a puppy but that's what you're referring to and thank you okay and so there's 280 of them they're just as applicable today than when they were recorded they're easily listened to I've listened to all 280 podcasts you can watch them as videos they're fabulous and Dennis every topic you can imagine from Healthcare to private property rights to the border to foreign policy and a lot of personal topics how can you be a courageous person that's right it's geared to young people it's unbelievably educational it's called fireside chats with Dennis Prager next question uh my name is Rebecca Jensen I homeschool with classical conversations and Mr Prager I was wondering what's your favorite Bible verse and why what is my favorite what Bible verse yes and and she's homeschooled through oh classical conversations by the way if you beat as I do so many homeschool young people the difference is so powerful between the average homeschool kid I'll tell you immediately they're more mature they're certainly polite they know much more about any subject and here's the key to me they're not jaded you get jaded in American schools you lose your innocence and you get cynical okay my favorite Bible verse is that what you asked and why okay this won't make your day I I but I I always say what I believe my favorite I do have a favorite Bible verse and it is those of you I'll keep the suspense I'll say it in Hebrew oh Psalm 97 10. those of you who love God must hate evil yeah yeah right exactly if you don't hate evil you don't love God that's why when Berkeley announced this I don't know if this is new to you because you really know me well and I'm honored really honored by that but uh Berkeley city council announced about 25 years ago that Berkeley was a hate-free Zone so I announced on my radio show I can't visit Berkeley anymore I hate I hate evil I can't get in it's a stupid comment hate free zone because if you don't hate evil you will hate non-evil great talmudic phrase those who are kind to the cruel will be cruel to the kind that exemplifies the left anyway thank you for asking it's a delight to meet you my favorite verse for tonight is Genesis 1 26 and 127 that that man is made in the image of God it answers every political question if man is a mistake then Marxism yeah could possibly be entertained but if man is an image bearer of the creator then Marxism is evil well said well said okay so here we go yes hi my name is I am seven years old um [Music] do you have any book recommendations she asked how much is each volume of the rational Bible this is Ezra she's seven years old we're reading all the classic literature right now so we did Charlotte's Web we did Stuart Little and Little House in the prairie Prairie she just wanted to know if you had any book recommendations for her if I have a watch oh a book recommendation for a seven-year-old in the classical tradition obviously outside of the Bible well this is not in the classical tradition so it may or may not be helpful to you but Prager you it's all free has a huge number of books for little kids Otto's tails is an example you're familiar with it already so I'm bringing coals to Newcastle uh do you have an answer to what's up I don't know if your kids are old enough but I'm still a big a big believer in Mark Twain I think the fact that we got rid of Mark Twain in our school system has been one of the big mistakes but I don't think your kids are old enough yet but I would consider that to be in the tradition of especially American literature of of kind of adolescent development and boy boys becoming men so thank you next question your family thank you hi my name is Jenna I'm the State youth advisor for the Arizona teenage Republicans um I've been an activist for probably three years now thank you thank you um so I've been involved in activism for quite a while already but I actually see a lot of new faces in this room when it comes to a lot of kids teenagers young adults there's quite a few here that I've never really seen before um so my question is for if they were to ever get involved and from your experience how do biblical principles and teachings motivate you to continue to be involved even when the days get hard yeah even when the days get hard thank you for asking that because this is a very important question to me so I'm finishing my commentary on the the fourth book Numbers and in it in the Book of Numbers is the story of the Israelite spies sent into Canaan 10 of the 12 each representing one of the tribes came back and said we can't do it they're too strong they'll kill us and two Caleb and Joshua said no no we can conquer it and God promised that we will so I read commentary after commentary because I have no issue that I don't believe I'm the only one with great insights hopefully I have great insights so one commentator wrote about why God was so angry at the ten spies who gave the negative report and when I read it I decided to publicize this over and over on my radio show and in speeches despair is a sin that was his whole sentence God says despair is a sin that is entirely accurate and even if you don't believe in God let me ask you something could Churchill not have despaired could Washington not have despaired is there any good battle which was always being one at no time was their reason for despair despair is narcissistic sorry means you feel sorry for you don't do it you can't Despair and by the way there's no reason to despair there's a reason to be wor