Charlie Kirk and Sean Feucht Discuss Revival, Christian Engagement in Politics, and the Let Us Worship Movement

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Charlie Kirk and Sean Feucht Discuss Revival, Christian Engagement in Politics, and the Let Us Worship Movement

Charlie Kirk welcomes Sean Feucht to Freedom Night in America at Dream City Church to discuss the powerful Let Us Worship movement that brought thousands to Christ during lockdowns. Feucht shares his experiences traveling to 160 cities across America, facing opposition from governors and Antifa, and organizing open-air revivals when churches were forced to close. Kirk and Feucht address the intersection of faith and politics, the woke infiltration of churches, Arizona voter integrity bills, the church shutdown bill passing the Arizona House, and why Christians must engage in the political sphere. They tackle tough questions about national division, parenting in a hostile culture, and how ordinary citizens can make a difference in their communities.

August 23, 2022

Opening Remarks and Arizona Legislative Victories

Charlie Kirk opens Freedom Night in America by acknowledging the strong turnout despite competing with the State of the Union address. Kirk expresses confidence that their core audience chose to attend the event rather than watch what he characterizes as propaganda on television. He thanks attendees for their engagement with important voter integrity bills currently passing through the Arizona House and Senate.

Kirk highlights a significant victory: the Arizona House just passed legislation ensuring churches can never be shut down again during emergencies like COVID-19. He emphasizes the importance of local politics and encourages the community to track these bills and contact their representatives. Kirk celebrates what he sees as a revival of grassroots citizenship, where Americans are rediscovering what it means to be citizens rather than subjects.

The Let Us Worship Movement Begins

Kirk introduces Sean Feucht, founder of the Let Us Worship movement, playfully noting Feucht's long hair and unconventional appearance. Feucht shares his background as the son of full-time medical missionaries who spent 20 years working in the most persecuted and closed nations including North Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. He admits that initially he didn't care much about America, believing the country had already heard the gospel.

Everything changed when Feucht started having children. With four kids ages 11, 9, 7, and 3, he began thinking seriously about what America would look like for his children. Living in California, he witnessed intense polarization but also recognized the state's rich revival history. When lockdowns happened, Feucht wasn't shocked because he had just run for Congress in the Bay Area and had seen behind the veil of the political establishment.

What did shock Feucht was the government's selective enforcement during lockdowns. Casinos remained open, strip clubs stayed open, people could freely shop at Costco, but churches were labeled as super spreaders. He created a pledge called "Let Us Worship" and circulated it online, primarily targeting friends in locked-down states like New York and California.

Underground Church Pastors Inspire Action

Feucht recounts a pivotal moment when he received direct messages from his underground church pastor friends in Iraq, India, and Afghanistan. These pastors, who faced real persecution, challenged him: "You're not going to let the governor do that to you, right Sean? Come on, you spend enough time with us. You know what to do." Their encouragement pushed him to move from words to action.

The first gathering took place at the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. Feucht posted on social media inviting people to join him, uncertain if anyone would show up in the heavily locked-down city. To his surprise, 400 people gathered. What shocked him most was an encounter with policemen on suicide patrol who were stationed on the bridge to prevent people from jumping. When Feucht's group explained they came to pray, the officers broke down weeping, revealing that suicide attempts had skyrocketed and they couldn't stop them all.

This encounter opened Feucht's eyes to the untold story of the pandemic - the isolation, depression, heartache, and despair people were experiencing while churches remained closed to meet those needs. The movement grew rapidly from there. The next day in Huntington Beach, 1,000 people showed up. Days later in San Diego, 5,000 gathered on the beach.

Confronting Darkness in Seattle and Portland

Feucht didn't limit the movement to friendly territory. He deliberately went into some of America's most hostile cities, including Seattle and Portland, where Antifa showed up in force. His team experienced significant opposition - their equipment was destroyed and thrown down, they were maced, pepper sprayed, and harassed. Satanists poured blood on them.

Drawing on his experience in difficult nations around the world, Feucht felt called to bring light to darkness. In Seattle, they went directly into the CHOP zone rather than the suburbs. In Portland, they gathered downtown near the courthouse where copies of the Bible were being burned. The chaplain of the Portland Police Department called Feucht to warn him they couldn't provide protection because gangs of teenagers were randomly knifing people at night and the murder rate was out of control.

When they returned to Seattle for a second time, the city barricaded the park. In Chicago, they faced 100 police officers attempting to close down their gathering. In Tempe, Arizona, Feucht still has an ongoing court case and faces significant fines from their 2020 event, despite having invited police on stage and receiving a positive report from the city about the peaceful nature of the gathering.

Church Response and Theological Contradictions

One of the most sobering aspects of the movement was discovering fault lines within the church itself. Feucht observed that churches which had previously been bold suddenly shut their doors and wanted nothing to do with the Let Us Worship gatherings. Some even attacked the movement.

Feucht points out a theological contradiction he witnessed: churches singing songs about slaying giants and no longer being slaves to fear, yet being afraid to gather for worship. Songs about the sick being healed and the dead being raised weren't matching people's actions. The worship movement, which Feucht loves and is part of, was hit particularly hard as artists felt pressured to conform to a certain agenda where compassion supposedly meant wearing a mask and watching church alone on a screen at home.

People attempted to build theology around isolation, claiming this is what Jesus would do. Feucht challenges this notion, pointing out that Jesus walked into sickness, darkness, and demonic activity, bringing freedom and healing. The lockdowns tested the core of Christian theology - whether believers actually trust in the songs they sing.

The Great Awokening and BLM Protests

Following the lockdowns came what Feucht calls "the great awokening." Suddenly there was intense pressure for everyone to post black squares on social media and apologize for things they never did based on the color of their skin. In many church circles, there was an expectation to show up for Saturday morning BLM marches while churches remained closed for worship.

Feucht sees the woke agenda as a cop-out - people pretending to be virtuous while using guilt as a mechanism for control. He emphasizes this isn't how the gospel works. The gospel operates through grace, freedom, and love, not guilt and shame. Churches were weaponizing wokeness to enforce compliance with a certain narrative.

Despite Feucht's personal history of ministry work in 70 nations around the world and currently having a team of 32 doctors serving in a refugee camp in Iraq, none of that mattered to critics who labeled him a white supremacist trying to capitalize on pain. Thankfully, the Let Us Worship gatherings were incredibly diverse, which shattered the media narrative that the movement was racially divisive.

A Powerful Moment in Chicago

Feucht shares one of his favorite moments from Chicago. BLM protesters, claiming to be Christians, showed up to protest the Let Us Worship gathering in South Chicago, screaming and yelling. What the protesters didn't know was that three Black pastors were preaching the gospel that day. When the first pastor took the stage, he addressed a white angry protester directly, preaching about forgiveness and the need to release offenses. That protester came down to the altar, gave his life to Jesus, and was baptized in the back of a truck bed.

This experience reinforced Feucht's belief that people are being sucked into false narratives. He believes this generation is born with a call for justice and wants a cause to live for. The problem is that the world has perverted this desire, telling people the only way to pursue justice is according to specific rules involving guilt and shame mechanisms. Feucht insists Christians must return to the centrality of the gospel - forgiveness and grace - rather than mandating compliance with performative activism.

Wokeness: Love Without Truth

Feucht argues that wokeness demands love without truth. The repeated mantra of "love is love is love" lacks the truth of Jesus, the truth of the gospel, and the truth of salvation. Many people, both in congregations and leadership, fell for this false version of love. Kirk asks where the church stands now regarding woke infiltration. Feucht acknowledges definite polarization but believes most people feel bad about what they supported without wanting to repent or change because of pride. They're trying to carry on as if nothing happened, ignoring the warnings that were given.

Polarization Precedes Revival

Rather than viewing polarization as entirely negative, Feucht sees it as a precursor to revival. He points to revival history and past moves of God, noting that polarization has typically preceded spiritual awakening. Revival rarely comes during times of perfect peace or prosperity. Feucht references Matthew 24, where Jesus describes wars, rumors of wars, famines, and earthquakes, instructing followers not to be alarmed.

Jesus warns that the increase of wickedness will cause the love of many to grow cold. Feucht notes how many people left the church and abandoned their faith during lockdowns and civil unrest. However, the promise remains that the gospel of the kingdom will be preached to every nation, tribe, and tongue. No emperor, governor, or person can stop this from happening.

Feucht describes standing with 12,000 people on the steps of the California State Capitol in Sacramento (despite a permit for only 500) wanting to sing the childhood song about Pharaoh because he views Governor Gavin Newsom's actions similarly - the church never allows government to dictate when and how to worship God. He references Joel 2, which describes "the great and terrible day of the Lord," choosing to focus on how great rather than how terrible the current season is because he believes it's a time of historic revival.

Energy Independence and the Russia-Ukraine Situation

Kirk addresses the Russian invasion of Ukraine, disclaiming expertise but offering perspective on what could unite the country. Regardless of opinions about sending U.S. troops, Kirk argues there's something simple America should do immediately: stop buying oil from Russia. He questions why the country isn't using its abundant oil and gas resources that God has provided.

Kirk outlines multiple benefits of American energy independence: creating millions of jobs, giving the European Union leverage to stop importing from a totalitarian dictatorship, and preventing future wars. He argues that radical environmentalists have captured the government and want to eliminate fossil fuels and energy extraction. The result is a strengthened Putin who is actually incentivized to invade because oil prices rise, strengthening the petrodollar.

From a Christian perspective on public policy, Kirk argues that viewing the earth as a god itself rather than something to use for humanity's betterment completely inverts proper priorities. While Christians are called to be fruitful and multiply and should preserve and conserve, they should first use the earth for humanity's betterment. Christians are never called to worship the earth but to worship God Almighty. The other side has an earth-worshipping inclination that refuses to touch anything on the planet. Kirk believes someone filled with what he characterizes as an unclean, satanic spirit (referring to Putin) will capitalize on that weakness.

Christians in Politics: Breaking the Taboo

Feucht addresses what he sees as a demonic element in the church that prevents Christians from engaging in politics. He notes that the church celebrates when Cooper Kupp scores a game-winning Super Bowl touchdown and gives glory to God, or when Kanye West releases a faith-based album. Christians get excited when believers succeed in any sphere - except politics.

Drawing from personal experience running for Congress, Feucht describes how friends who privately agreed with him on issues suddenly distanced themselves the moment he ran for office. He believes there are seven spheres of society, but only one sphere regulates all the others. The COVID experience demonstrated who controls daily life - where people can go, when they can have church, and what they can do. If Christians aren't salt and light in the one sphere controlling all others, they're not faithfully responding to the Great Commission.

Growing up as a missions kid, Feucht thought he would be a missionary in Congress. When he gave Jesus his yes, he told God he would go anywhere. The greatest price his family ever paid for following Jesus was entering politics - the darkest space he has encountered out of any nation in the world, precisely because Christians are afraid to represent Jesus there.

Ending Dualism: Jesus in Every Sphere

Feucht argues that Christians separate politics from faith in a way that isn't the Hebraic approach. Jesus gets all of life, every space of life. Christians should bring Jesus into the ballot box and into politics. He points to the founding fathers as examples and argues this is the Christian calling.

Kirk adds that America is unique in being founded on three biblical ideals that form the American Trinity (a concept from Dennis Prager): Liberty, In God We Trust, and E Pluribus Unum (out of many, one). These values are minted on American currency. Liberty reflects God's desire for people to live freely. In God We Trust is a core Christian value. E Pluribus Unum connects to the biblical truth that there is neither slave nor Greek nor Jew - all are free in Jesus Christ. Kirk challenges anyone to show him widely accepted Christian doctrine that wouldn't affirm these three principles, or another country that has enshrined them so prominently.

The Exodus Parallel and Human Nature

Kirk draws parallels to the Book of Exodus, noting there's a yearning in the human heart to be free. However, after the Israelites escaped Egypt, they complained in the desert, even saying they wanted to return to slavery because at least they ate meat in Egypt. This illustrates a tension in the human heart between wanting freedom and wanting to be taken care of.

Having traveled to 70 countries, Feucht could easily observe that it would be simpler to have someone take care of people, give them things, and provide scapegoats for their problems. The biblical and philosophical foundation Kirk and Feucht advocate for emphasizes personal responsibility and the God-given desire for liberty over comfort.

The Let Us Worship Tour Continues

Feucht announces the next phase of the Let Us Worship movement: 12 cities across America, kicking off in Lafayette at the Cajun Dome and ending on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. just a week and a half before midterm elections. The tour includes stops in New York and Philadelphia, where they've secured Independence Square where the Liberty Bell is located.

Feucht mentions that Let Us Worship is being heavily censored and shadow-banned on social media for "dangerous content" - the gospel. He encourages people to follow on social media and join their text list to stay informed about events. Merchandise and information are available at letusworshipus.org.

National Divorce and Civil War Concerns

When asked about the possibility of a national divorce or civil war, Kirk prefaces his response by stating such an outcome would be awful and terrible. However, he argues Americans would be fooling themselves not to examine what ties bind citizens together with fellow countrymen in places like Manhattan and San Francisco.

Kirk lists fundamental disagreements: one side believes the Constitution is a wonderful political document while the other considers it trash; one side believes marriage is between one man and one woman while the other believes it can be anything; one side believes in God-given rights while the other doesn't believe in God; one side supports borders while the other advocates open borders. Even language is becoming a dividing factor as English becomes a minority language in some areas.

Kirk argues the country is on much more fragile cultural footing than people want to admit. When visiting Los Angeles with armed guards due to death threats, he doesn't feel he's visiting a country that shares his values. The way to avoid national divorce is for the other side to stop imposing their viewpoint on areas that don't share their values. Much of the tension would simmer down if there were genuine tolerance for different regional values.

The Problem of Cultural Imperialism

Kirk argues the problem is the left's relentless attempt to push their agenda into places that don't share their values, almost provoking a response. He gives examples of schools in Scottsdale having children fill out forms that could potentially inform on their parents regarding compliance with critical race theory guidelines.

Kirk calls for what he describes as a "political extinction event of the woke left" - making it unacceptable to believe that people should be judged by skin color, that men can become pregnant (noting that Apple iPhone now includes a pregnant man emoji), or that classrooms should be segregated like in Colorado where playgrounds had separate times for Black and white families. Kirk believes most Americans are looking for an outlet to repudiate these ideas and want a return to "team reality."

Civil War: Avoiding the Bait

Regarding civil war specifically, Kirk believes most Americans don't want one and it won't happen unless the other side tries to provoke people and those on the right aren't disciplined enough to recognize the trap. He explicitly warns against taking the bait, arguing that Satan would love nothing more than to tempt people into conversations or political actions that would justify a security response from the FBI or DOJ against "domestic extremists."

Kirk emphasizes that Christians must be explicit unifiers, always trying to bring people together on agreeable principles that are part of the American Trinity. He advocates for discipline, wisdom, and a focus on shared values rather than allowing enemies to create division.

Questions from the Audience

An audience member asks Feucht which state or city attacked him most. Feucht reveals that Let Us Worship was number one on Washington Governor's website as COVID violators. California Governor Gavin Newsom released ordinances called "the Sean rules." But what shocked him most was the sheer demonic violence witnessed in Seattle and Portland - unlike anything he'd seen before in America.

People were macing and pepper-spraying babies at worship events. They threw spikes in roads to blow out car tires as people left gatherings. At one point, people surrounded Feucht's wife and kids with knives. Despite the intensity, the movement persevered, worshiped God, and saw breakthrough with people getting saved, healed, and delivered.

Public Speaking and Influence

When a young person asks how to speak into people's hearts and attract them, Kirk shares that he's given 15,000 to 20,000 speeches and used to get nervous years ago. He believes anyone can become a good public speaker through passion, being interesting, and preparation. Most people don't want to do public speaking, making it a huge differentiator for success. Knowing what you believe and why you believe it requires spending time learning and diving deep into ideas.

Feucht adds that gifts and abilities come down to stewardship. Rather than resenting what you don't have, focus on who you influence right now and steward that influence well. God doesn't run on communist principles - some are given five talents, some ten. The Lord takes from those who do nothing and gives to those who are good stewards. Kirk emphasizes that work ethic, values, integrity, and application matter more than raw talent. Many superstars he grew up with made poor decisions and aren't superstars anymore, while people who worked hard became rock stars ten years later.

Flipping Virginia: The Power of Parents

When asked how individuals with less influence can impact secular spheres, Feucht points to Virginia as the perfect example. Parents flipped Virginia from blue to red - not Trump, not political celebrities, but ordinary parents unafraid to raise their voices. Feucht believes 2022 is the year of parents who aren't playing games anymore. Normal people without big social media followings stood up, and as Feucht notes, you don't mess with a mama bear.

Kirk expands on this, noting that influence isn't about numbers but quality. It's better to deeply influence five or six people than to have a large but shallow following. He advises people to become masters of one or two topics that really interest them - whether immigration, abortion, or another issue - and win influence in that category.

Parenting in Difficult Times

A father asks for advice on protecting children from society's lies. Feucht shares a vulnerable moment of watching his four blonde-haired, blue-eyed children playing on the beach, overwhelmed by what they face that he never faced growing up - perversion, gender confusion, and attacks on their identity. He asked God how they would make it, and heard the Holy Spirit say: "Sean, I created them for such a time as this."

Feucht's first principle is never parent from fear. Be cautious and careful, but know God gave children a powerful spirit inside them. His 11-year-old daughter is a praying prophetic force who walks up to people and delivers powerful prophetic words. Keep getting children in atmospheres where they can be filled by God, encounter God, and get marked by God.

During COVID, Feucht's family took their kids out of school rather than deal with constantly changing mask mandates. They homeschooled in a camper and hotel rooms while traveling across America experiencing revival - a season their children will never forget. Feucht's encouragement: don't parent from fear, know that God's got you, but also use wisdom.

Educational Resources for Parents

Kirk promotes charlieforhillsdale.com as a resource for parents to take online courses and teach children about the Constitution and American history. He challenges parents to spend just one hour per week with all devices off teaching children something about American history or philosophy. One hour per week equals 52 hours per year of instilling values that will make a tremendous impact. If parents can't dedicate one hour per week, Kirk suggests the battle is already lost.

Staying Faithful Through Opposition

When asked how hard it was to stay faithful to God and not go home after struggles, Feucht responds that the hardest part wasn't opposition from governors, mayors, Antifa, or protesters - it was the distance and desertion of friends. He relates this to Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane asking if the disciples couldn't stay up one hour. Jesus walked through everything believers walk through, which is why He can meet people in their place of need.

The relational disconnect was hurtful but necessary. As an Enneagram eight (challenger) with a seven wing (enthusiast), Feucht naturally wants everyone to party together. But this was a season where the challenger had to come out and confront a spiritual problem, even at the cost of friendships. The flip side is that taking that stand opened new doors, new relationships, and new connections - including the partnership with Kirk.

A 13-Year-Old Leader's Question

A 13-year-old student council vice president asks how to help the few Christians at her school become believers and stay strong in faith. Kirk first encourages her that going through this at 13 will make her a formidable force for Jesus by age 18, 20, or 30. He acknowledges she will lose friends and have bad things said about her - Christians get bullied as part of the bargain. They get salvation and suffering.

Kirk advises staying anchored in Scripture and being an ambassador for Christ-like behavior. The seven Christians she knows are probably more because some are scared to identify themselves. There's no reason seven can't become 14 or 70 soon. She's a living example of Jesus's parable of the talents - she has the good news in a tough environment but also holds a leadership position.

Kirk explains that pressure reveals values. When homework is due and a friend wants to cheat, that's pressure revealing whether you actually believe what you profess. As a leader, she'll have opportunities to take the bad grade rather than lie, demonstrating that integrity matters more than grades.

A Generation of Superstars Rising

Feucht adds that gifts come down to stewardship. Some are given five talents, some ten. Focus on stewarding well whatever sphere of influence you have, and watch God bring increase. Kirk concludes by saying there's a generation of superstars rising up who are younger and tougher than anything that's come before.

Let's Go Brandon: Love and Justice

The transcript ends mid-question with an audience member named Megan asking about the "F Joe Biden" and "Let's Go Brandon" phenomenon. She shares that her brother challenged her to stop saying it because Christians should be known by their love, and she wants to understand how to balance wanting justice while showing love. The transcript cuts off before the response is given, but the question highlights an important tension many believers face between speaking truth, pursuing justice, and demonstrating Christ-like love.

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