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Charlie Kirk and Sean Feucht Discuss Revival, Christian Engagement in Politics, and the Let Us Worship Movement
Charlie Kirk welcomes Sean Feucht to Freedom Night in America at Dream City Church to discuss the powerful Let Us Worship movement that brought thousands to Christ during lockdowns. Feucht shares his experiences traveling to 160 cities across America, facing opposition from governors and Antifa, and organizing open-air revivals when churches were forced to close. Kirk and Feucht address the intersection of faith and politics, the woke infiltration of churches, Arizona voter integrity bills, the church shutdown bill passing the Arizona House, and why Christians must engage in the political sphere. They tackle tough questions about national division, parenting in a hostile culture, and how ordinary citizens can make a difference in their communities.
Opening Remarks and Arizona Legislative Victories
Charlie Kirk opens Freedom Night in America by acknowledging the strong turnout despite competing with the State of the Union address. Kirk expresses confidence that their core audience chose to attend the event rather than watch what he characterizes as propaganda on television. He thanks attendees for their engagement with important voter integrity bills currently passing through the Arizona House and Senate.
Kirk highlights a significant victory: the Arizona House just passed legislation ensuring churches can never be shut down again during emergencies like COVID-19. He emphasizes the importance of local politics and encourages the community to track these bills and contact their representatives. Kirk celebrates what he sees as a revival of grassroots citizenship, where Americans are rediscovering what it means to be citizens rather than subjects.
The Let Us Worship Movement Begins
Kirk introduces Sean Feucht, founder of the Let Us Worship movement, playfully noting Feucht's long hair and unconventional appearance. Feucht shares his background as the son of full-time medical missionaries who spent 20 years working in the most persecuted and closed nations including North Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. He admits that initially he didn't care much about America, believing the country had already heard the gospel.
Everything changed when Feucht started having children. With four kids ages 11, 9, 7, and 3, he began thinking seriously about what America would look like for his children. Living in California, he witnessed intense polarization but also recognized the state's rich revival history. When lockdowns happened, Feucht wasn't shocked because he had just run for Congress in the Bay Area and had seen behind the veil of the political establishment.
What did shock Feucht was the government's selective enforcement during lockdowns. Casinos remained open, strip clubs stayed open, people could freely shop at Costco, but churches were labeled as super spreaders. He created a pledge called "Let Us Worship" and circulated it online, primarily targeting friends in locked-down states like New York and California.
Underground Church Pastors Inspire Action
Feucht recounts a pivotal moment when he received direct messages from his underground church pastor friends in Iraq, India, and Afghanistan. These pastors, who faced real persecution, challenged him: "You're not going to let the governor do that to you, right Sean? Come on, you spend enough time with us. You know what to do." Their encouragement pushed him to move from words to action.
The first gathering took place at the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. Feucht posted on social media inviting people to join him, uncertain if anyone would show up in the heavily locked-down city. To his surprise, 400 people gathered. What shocked him most was an encounter with policemen on suicide patrol who were stationed on the bridge to prevent people from jumping. When Feucht's group explained they came to pray, the officers broke down weeping, revealing that suicide attempts had skyrocketed and they couldn't stop them all.
This encounter opened Feucht's eyes to the untold story of the pandemic - the isolation, depression, heartache, and despair people were experiencing while churches remained closed to meet those needs. The movement grew rapidly from there. The next day in Huntington Beach, 1,000 people showed up. Days later in San Diego, 5,000 gathered on the beach.
Confronting Darkness in Seattle and Portland
Feucht didn't limit the movement to friendly territory. He deliberately went into some of America's most hostile cities, including Seattle and Portland, where Antifa showed up in force. His team experienced significant opposition - their equipment was destroyed and thrown down, they were maced, pepper sprayed, and harassed. Satanists poured blood on them.
Drawing on his experience in difficult nations around the world, Feucht felt called to bring light to darkness. In Seattle, they went directly into the CHOP zone rather than the suburbs. In Portland, they gathered downtown near the courthouse where copies of the Bible were being burned. The chaplain of the Portland Police Department called Feucht to warn him they couldn't provide protection because gangs of teenagers were randomly knifing people at night and the murder rate was out of control.
When they returned to Seattle for a second time, the city barricaded the park. In Chicago, they faced 100 police officers attempting to close down their gathering. In Tempe, Arizona, Feucht still has an ongoing court case and faces significant fines from their 2020 event, despite having invited police on stage and receiving a positive report from the city about the peaceful nature of the gathering.
Church Response and Theological Contradictions
One of the most sobering aspects of the movement was discovering fault lines within the church itself. Feucht observed that churches which had previously been bold suddenly shut their doors and wanted nothing to do with the Let Us Worship gatherings. Some even attacked the movement.
Feucht points out a theological contradiction he witnessed: churches singing songs about slaying giants and no longer being slaves to fear, yet being afraid to gather for worship. Songs about the sick being healed and the dead being raised weren't matching people's actions. The worship movement, which Feucht loves and is part of, was hit particularly hard as artists felt pressured to conform to a certain agenda where compassion supposedly meant wearing a mask and watching church alone on a screen at home.
People attempted to build theology around isolation, claiming this is what Jesus would do. Feucht challenges this notion, pointing out that Jesus walked into sickness, darkness, and demonic activity, bringing freedom and healing. The lockdowns tested the core of Christian theology - whether believers actually trust in the songs they sing.
The Great Awokening and BLM Protests
Following the lockdowns came what Feucht calls "the great awokening." Suddenly there was intense pressure for everyone to post black squares on social media and apologize for things they never did based on the color of their skin. In many church circles, there was an expectation to show up for Saturday morning BLM marches while churches remained closed for worship.
Feucht sees the woke agenda as a cop-out - people pretending to be virtuous while using guilt as a mechanism for control. He emphasizes this isn't how the gospel works. The gospel operates through grace, freedom, and love, not guilt and shame. Churches were weaponizing wokeness to enforce compliance with a certain narrative.
Despite Feucht's personal history of ministry work in 70 nations around the world and currently having a team of 32 doctors serving in a refugee camp in Iraq, none of that mattered to critics who labeled him a white supremacist trying to capitalize on pain. Thankfully, the Let Us Worship gatherings were incredibly diverse, which shattered the media narrative that the movement was racially divisive.
A Powerful Moment in Chicago
Feucht shares one of his favorite moments from Chicago. BLM protesters, claiming to be Christians, showed up to protest the Let Us Worship gathering in South Chicago, screaming and yelling. What the protesters didn't know was that three Black pastors were preaching the gospel that day. When the first pastor took the stage, he addressed a white angry protester directly, preaching about forgiveness and the need to release offenses. That protester came down to the altar, gave his life to Jesus, and was baptized in the back of a truck bed.
This experience reinforced Feucht's belief that people are being sucked into false narratives. He believes this generation is born with a call for justice and wants a cause to live for. The problem is that the world has perverted this desire, telling people the only way to pursue justice is according to specific rules involving guilt and shame mechanisms. Feucht insists Christians must return to the centrality of the gospel - forgiveness and grace - rather than mandating compliance with performative activism.
Wokeness: Love Without Truth
Feucht argues that wokeness demands love without truth. The repeated mantra of "love is love is love" lacks the truth of Jesus, the truth of the gospel, and the truth of salvation. Many people, both in congregations and leadership, fell for this false version of love. Kirk asks where the church stands now regarding woke infiltration. Feucht acknowledges definite polarization but believes most people feel bad about what they supported without wanting to repent or change because of pride. They're trying to carry on as if nothing happened, ignoring the warnings that were given.
Polarization Precedes Revival
Rather than viewing polarization as entirely negative, Feucht sees it as a precursor to revival. He points to revival history and past moves of God, noting that polarization has typically preceded spiritual awakening. Revival rarely comes during times of perfect peace or prosperity. Feucht references Matthew 24, where Jesus describes wars, rumors of wars, famines, and earthquakes, instructing followers not to be alarmed.
Jesus warns that the increase of wickedness will cause the love of many to grow cold. Feucht notes how many people left the church and abandoned their faith during lockdowns and civil unrest. However, the promise remains that the gospel of the kingdom will be preached to every nation, tribe, and tongue. No emperor, governor, or person can stop this from happening.
Feucht describes standing with 12,000 people on the steps of the California State Capitol in Sacramento (despite a permit for only 500) wanting to sing the childhood song about Pharaoh because he views Governor Gavin Newsom's actions similarly - the church never allows government to dictate when and how to worship God. He references Joel 2, which describes "the great and terrible day of the Lord," choosing to focus on how great rather than how terrible the current season is because he believes it's a time of historic revival.
Energy Independence and the Russia-Ukraine Situation
Kirk addresses the Russian invasion of Ukraine, disclaiming expertise but offering perspective on what could unite the country. Regardless of opinions about sending U.S. troops, Kirk argues there's something simple America should do immediately: stop buying oil from Russia. He questions why the country isn't using its abundant oil and gas resources that God has provided.
Kirk outlines multiple benefits of American energy independence: creating millions of jobs, giving the European Union leverage to stop importing from a totalitarian dictatorship, and preventing future wars. He argues that radical environmentalists have captured the government and want to eliminate fossil fuels and energy extraction. The result is a strengthened Putin who is actually incentivized to invade because oil prices rise, strengthening the petrodollar.
From a Christian perspective on public policy, Kirk argues that viewing the earth as a god itself rather than something to use for humanity's betterment completely inverts proper priorities. While Christians are called to be fruitful and multiply and should preserve and conserve, they should first use the earth for humanity's betterment. Christians are never called to worship the earth but to worship God Almighty. The other side has an earth-worshipping inclination that refuses to touch anything on the planet. Kirk believes someone filled with what he characterizes as an unclean, satanic spirit (referring to Putin) will capitalize on that weakness.
Christians in Politics: Breaking the Taboo
Feucht addresses what he sees as a demonic element in the church that prevents Christians from engaging in politics. He notes that the church celebrates when Cooper Kupp scores a game-winning Super Bowl touchdown and gives glory to God, or when Kanye West releases a faith-based album. Christians get excited when believers succeed in any sphere - except politics.
Drawing from personal experience running for Congress, Feucht describes how friends who privately agreed with him on issues suddenly distanced themselves the moment he ran for office. He believes there are seven spheres of society, but only one sphere regulates all the others. The COVID experience demonstrated who controls daily life - where people can go, when they can have church, and what they can do. If Christians aren't salt and light in the one sphere controlling all others, they're not faithfully responding to the Great Commission.
Growing up as a missions kid, Feucht thought he would be a missionary in Congress. When he gave Jesus his yes, he told God he would go anywhere. The greatest price his family ever paid for following Jesus was entering politics - the darkest space he has encountered out of any nation in the world, precisely because Christians are afraid to represent Jesus there.
Ending Dualism: Jesus in Every Sphere
Feucht argues that Christians separate politics from faith in a way that isn't the Hebraic approach. Jesus gets all of life, every space of life. Christians should bring Jesus into the ballot box and into politics. He points to the founding fathers as examples and argues this is the Christian calling.
Kirk adds that America is unique in being founded on three biblical ideals that form the American Trinity (a concept from Dennis Prager): Liberty, In God We Trust, and E Pluribus Unum (out of many, one). These values are minted on American currency. Liberty reflects God's desire for people to live freely. In God We Trust is a core Christian value. E Pluribus Unum connects to the biblical truth that there is neither slave nor Greek nor Jew - all are free in Jesus Christ. Kirk challenges anyone to show him widely accepted Christian doctrine that wouldn't affirm these three principles, or another country that has enshrined them so prominently.
The Exodus Parallel and Human Nature
Kirk draws parallels to the Book of Exodus, noting there's a yearning in the human heart to be free. However, after the Israelites escaped Egypt, they complained in the desert, even saying they wanted to return to slavery because at least they ate meat in Egypt. This illustrates a tension in the human heart between wanting freedom and wanting to be taken care of.
Having traveled to 70 countries, Feucht could easily observe that it would be simpler to have someone take care of people, give them things, and provide scapegoats for their problems. The biblical and philosophical foundation Kirk and Feucht advocate for emphasizes personal responsibility and the God-given desire for liberty over comfort.
The Let Us Worship Tour Continues
Feucht announces the next phase of the Let Us Worship movement: 12 cities across America, kicking off in Lafayette at the Cajun Dome and ending on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. just a week and a half before midterm elections. The tour includes stops in New York and Philadelphia, where they've secured Independence Square where the Liberty Bell is located.
Feucht mentions that Let Us Worship is being heavily censored and shadow-banned on social media for "dangerous content" - the gospel. He encourages people to follow on social media and join their text list to stay informed about events. Merchandise and information are available at letusworshipus.org.
National Divorce and Civil War Concerns
When asked about the possibility of a national divorce or civil war, Kirk prefaces his response by stating such an outcome would be awful and terrible. However, he argues Americans would be fooling themselves not to examine what ties bind citizens together with fellow countrymen in places like Manhattan and San Francisco.
Kirk lists fundamental disagreements: one side believes the Constitution is a wonderful political document while the other considers it trash; one side believes marriage is between one man and one woman while the other believes it can be anything; one side believes in God-given rights while the other doesn't believe in God; one side supports borders while the other advocates open borders. Even language is becoming a dividing factor as English becomes a minority language in some areas.
Kirk argues the country is on much more fragile cultural footing than people want to admit. When visiting Los Angeles with armed guards due to death threats, he doesn't feel he's visiting a country that shares his values. The way to avoid national divorce is for the other side to stop imposing their viewpoint on areas that don't share their values. Much of the tension would simmer down if there were genuine tolerance for different regional values.
The Problem of Cultural Imperialism
Kirk argues the problem is the left's relentless attempt to push their agenda into places that don't share their values, almost provoking a response. He gives examples of schools in Scottsdale having children fill out forms that could potentially inform on their parents regarding compliance with critical race theory guidelines.
Kirk calls for what he describes as a "political extinction event of the woke left" - making it unacceptable to believe that people should be judged by skin color, that men can become pregnant (noting that Apple iPhone now includes a pregnant man emoji), or that classrooms should be segregated like in Colorado where playgrounds had separate times for Black and white families. Kirk believes most Americans are looking for an outlet to repudiate these ideas and want a return to "team reality."
Civil War: Avoiding the Bait
Regarding civil war specifically, Kirk believes most Americans don't want one and it won't happen unless the other side tries to provoke people and those on the right aren't disciplined enough to recognize the trap. He explicitly warns against taking the bait, arguing that Satan would love nothing more than to tempt people into conversations or political actions that would justify a security response from the FBI or DOJ against "domestic extremists."
Kirk emphasizes that Christians must be explicit unifiers, always trying to bring people together on agreeable principles that are part of the American Trinity. He advocates for discipline, wisdom, and a focus on shared values rather than allowing enemies to create division.
Questions from the Audience
An audience member asks Feucht which state or city attacked him most. Feucht reveals that Let Us Worship was number one on Washington Governor's website as COVID violators. California Governor Gavin Newsom released ordinances called "the Sean rules." But what shocked him most was the sheer demonic violence witnessed in Seattle and Portland - unlike anything he'd seen before in America.
People were macing and pepper-spraying babies at worship events. They threw spikes in roads to blow out car tires as people left gatherings. At one point, people surrounded Feucht's wife and kids with knives. Despite the intensity, the movement persevered, worshiped God, and saw breakthrough with people getting saved, healed, and delivered.
Public Speaking and Influence
When a young person asks how to speak into people's hearts and attract them, Kirk shares that he's given 15,000 to 20,000 speeches and used to get nervous years ago. He believes anyone can become a good public speaker through passion, being interesting, and preparation. Most people don't want to do public speaking, making it a huge differentiator for success. Knowing what you believe and why you believe it requires spending time learning and diving deep into ideas.
Feucht adds that gifts and abilities come down to stewardship. Rather than resenting what you don't have, focus on who you influence right now and steward that influence well. God doesn't run on communist principles - some are given five talents, some ten. The Lord takes from those who do nothing and gives to those who are good stewards. Kirk emphasizes that work ethic, values, integrity, and application matter more than raw talent. Many superstars he grew up with made poor decisions and aren't superstars anymore, while people who worked hard became rock stars ten years later.
Flipping Virginia: The Power of Parents
When asked how individuals with less influence can impact secular spheres, Feucht points to Virginia as the perfect example. Parents flipped Virginia from blue to red - not Trump, not political celebrities, but ordinary parents unafraid to raise their voices. Feucht believes 2022 is the year of parents who aren't playing games anymore. Normal people without big social media followings stood up, and as Feucht notes, you don't mess with a mama bear.
Kirk expands on this, noting that influence isn't about numbers but quality. It's better to deeply influence five or six people than to have a large but shallow following. He advises people to become masters of one or two topics that really interest them - whether immigration, abortion, or another issue - and win influence in that category.
Parenting in Difficult Times
A father asks for advice on protecting children from society's lies. Feucht shares a vulnerable moment of watching his four blonde-haired, blue-eyed children playing on the beach, overwhelmed by what they face that he never faced growing up - perversion, gender confusion, and attacks on their identity. He asked God how they would make it, and heard the Holy Spirit say: "Sean, I created them for such a time as this."
Feucht's first principle is never parent from fear. Be cautious and careful, but know God gave children a powerful spirit inside them. His 11-year-old daughter is a praying prophetic force who walks up to people and delivers powerful prophetic words. Keep getting children in atmospheres where they can be filled by God, encounter God, and get marked by God.
During COVID, Feucht's family took their kids out of school rather than deal with constantly changing mask mandates. They homeschooled in a camper and hotel rooms while traveling across America experiencing revival - a season their children will never forget. Feucht's encouragement: don't parent from fear, know that God's got you, but also use wisdom.
Educational Resources for Parents
Kirk promotes charlieforhillsdale.com as a resource for parents to take online courses and teach children about the Constitution and American history. He challenges parents to spend just one hour per week with all devices off teaching children something about American history or philosophy. One hour per week equals 52 hours per year of instilling values that will make a tremendous impact. If parents can't dedicate one hour per week, Kirk suggests the battle is already lost.
Staying Faithful Through Opposition
When asked how hard it was to stay faithful to God and not go home after struggles, Feucht responds that the hardest part wasn't opposition from governors, mayors, Antifa, or protesters - it was the distance and desertion of friends. He relates this to Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane asking if the disciples couldn't stay up one hour. Jesus walked through everything believers walk through, which is why He can meet people in their place of need.
The relational disconnect was hurtful but necessary. As an Enneagram eight (challenger) with a seven wing (enthusiast), Feucht naturally wants everyone to party together. But this was a season where the challenger had to come out and confront a spiritual problem, even at the cost of friendships. The flip side is that taking that stand opened new doors, new relationships, and new connections - including the partnership with Kirk.
A 13-Year-Old Leader's Question
A 13-year-old student council vice president asks how to help the few Christians at her school become believers and stay strong in faith. Kirk first encourages her that going through this at 13 will make her a formidable force for Jesus by age 18, 20, or 30. He acknowledges she will lose friends and have bad things said about her - Christians get bullied as part of the bargain. They get salvation and suffering.
Kirk advises staying anchored in Scripture and being an ambassador for Christ-like behavior. The seven Christians she knows are probably more because some are scared to identify themselves. There's no reason seven can't become 14 or 70 soon. She's a living example of Jesus's parable of the talents - she has the good news in a tough environment but also holds a leadership position.
Kirk explains that pressure reveals values. When homework is due and a friend wants to cheat, that's pressure revealing whether you actually believe what you profess. As a leader, she'll have opportunities to take the bad grade rather than lie, demonstrating that integrity matters more than grades.
A Generation of Superstars Rising
Feucht adds that gifts come down to stewardship. Some are given five talents, some ten. Focus on stewarding well whatever sphere of influence you have, and watch God bring increase. Kirk concludes by saying there's a generation of superstars rising up who are younger and tougher than anything that's come before.
Let's Go Brandon: Love and Justice
The transcript ends mid-question with an audience member named Megan asking about the "F Joe Biden" and "Let's Go Brandon" phenomenon. She shares that her brother challenged her to stop saying it because Christians should be known by their love, and she wants to understand how to balance wanting justice while showing love. The transcript cuts off before the response is given, but the question highlights an important tension many believers face between speaking truth, pursuing justice, and demonstrating Christ-like love.
Video Transcript
i see so many great friends here i see mike ingram how you doing mike great to see you and so many others and so i um our team and i were meeting the other day and we said oh boy we don't know how attendance is going to be this month because it's the same night at a state of the union i said i think we're going to be just fine i said [Applause] we're going to be just fine so if our if our core audience is making that uh must-see viewing i said we we've got some communication issues that we that we've got to address uh great to see all you guys thank you so much we have an amazing friend tonight and we're going to dive into it quicker than usual i just want to thank all of you that have been so engaged and so involved in what's going on in the arizona house there's some very important voter integrity bills that are passing to the arizona house and arizona senate right now and just yesterday the arizona house just passed a bill that we want to make sure this church gets behind that says churches can never be shut down again in emergencies like cope at 19. we're never going to let it happen again we want to make sure that gets to the governor's desk and we're tracking that bill and many others and so they're working very hard but when you guys contact your local representatives and you track what's going on i know there's a lot of confusion happening uh with these bills but the local politics the local level matters so much and you know tonight i know for those of you who could watch the re i'm just going to watch the recap of whatever happens tonight in the state of the union and honestly that matters less to me than ever before and i think you feel the same way uh because i feel that there is this revival of grassroots citizenship and you know when we first talked about this you know angel and uh the entire dream city team i said you know i really want this community to become one of the most active communities in the country to understand what it means to be a citizen again not a surf not a subject but what it really means to be a citizen and sometimes that means you have to stop watching the propaganda on tv and actually getting into the getting into the weeds and worrying about what's happening around you and the education of your children and you're starting to see that happen in a very profound and serious way and so thanks to the success of what we've been doing here at freedom night in america we are now seeing churches from all across the country do biblical citizenship classes in fact tpusa faith we now have over 50 churches that are doing biblical citizenship classes and growing across the country inspired by what we're doing here very exciting and so what i just want to say and you guys can look into all the different bills and things that are happening is that you know we could talk about the public approval rating we could talk about the popularity which is you know all record low and i understand there's a lot of doom and gloom on the news right now but the american person the citizen whether it be the truckers that are on their way to dc right now which is very very exciting i know you've been watching that that the people in charge realize that the ground that they have been standing on is a lot shakier and fragile than ever that regular normal everyday people are starting to rise up i want to talk a little bit about you know what was some of the remarks earlier on the russian ukraine situation and by no means going to say that i'm an expert on this but what i find to be so stunning and one thing that could unite the entire country regardless of your opinion of should we send u.s troops or not i'm probably not there to be perfectly honest that we should send us troops there however that doesn't mean we should do nothing and i think the first thing that we should do and it's kind of not that complicated why are we still buying oil from russia it's a pretty simple question right which is if we wanted to starve the beast why don't we use the amazing oil and gas assets and blessings that god gave us here in america and it would accomplish four or five things immediately it would create millions of jobs it would give the european union leverage in a bargaining chip to no longer have to export or import oil from a totalitarian dictatorship that is invading sovereign countries it would also give us the opportunity to be energy independent which we were just a couple years ago until the radical environmentalist decided that we shouldn't do that um this right there is going to prevent future wars as they come and so it's very complicated situation i think it's important that we all look a level deeper but it shouldn't actually be that complicated to say wait a second we have more lng we have more liquefied natural gas we have more you know assets at our disposal than any other country on the planet why are we not using it and the answer is very simple we know that it's because the radical environmentalists have captured this government and they want to try to have no fossil fuels and no energy well guess what you have no fossil fuels and no energy extraction you get a strong putin you can't have both you can't you have to have either one of the other and quite honestly we look at this situation right now he only feels as emboldened as he is right now is because he's actually incentivized to invade because the price of oil goes up even more so he gets he actually in some ways has the petro dollar get strengthened and increased this is a very important point and very important takeaway as we look at public policy from a christian perspective which is if you if you view the earth as a god itself and not as something that we should use for the betterment of humanity then you have completely inverted actually what is your god now we are called to be fruitful and multiply the earth we should preserve and conserve but first and foremost we should use it for the betterment of humanity we are not here to worship earth we are never called to worship earth at all we're here we're supposed to worship god almighty however the other side they almost have an earth-worshipping kind of inclination to them where they believe that we should never touch anything happening in the planet all whatsoever well guess what then all of a sudden someone that is filled with i believe an unclean spirit a satanic type spirit is going to capitalize on that and invade a sovereign country and bomb citizen centers all around there so i think that's a very agreeable thing that 90 of the countries like yeah wait a second we're putting all these sanctions on but why are we still buying oil from the very same person and i think a very simple thing is before we send us troops we should say no more oil at all we should extract our own oil and gas here at home something we can all agree on so when we were thinking about who to have here tonight um he's just spectacular many of you have seen his movement and it's a real movement so during the lockdowns uh there were people that decided to just kind of stay at home and do nothing this church opened up as a and was courageous and bold but this man started a movement now i know you're going to get kind of confused when he comes up on stage some of you that don't know him he looks like a liberal i give him a hard time all the time he's got long hair he looks like a 1960s hippie he's got but it's okay we'll give him a hall pass i'm totally kidding but he went around the country and in these open-air revivals that brought thousands of people to the lord in the midst of the lockdown and i started to get these messages from people and they said charlie you gotta look at the sean floyd guy so i endorse sean back personally when he ran for congress in california and i was so moved by his story and i started to see sean attract crowds of thousands and then tens of thousands and then i saw the opposition i saw the sudden local governments try to lock him down i saw the satanic response to what sean was doing when everyone was supposed to stay at home he was bringing people into the streets to go glorify the lord and sean you know he'll do a better job than i will of actually talking about how this is not a political thing at all it's about glorifying god but guess what politics actually started to involve himself in his ministry because you had secular politicians that say hey you can go protest in a blm rally but if you're coming to go glorify god you're not allowed to do that and he was the tour that he put on in the last year and a half you should it's unbelievable the most ambitious and one of the and i'll say this i will put him up against anybody and i'm by no means know everybody in the space but i don't think anybody worked as hard and did more effective open-air revivals in as many cities as sean floyd did in the last two years and it's a great honor to have him here tonight sean get on up here [Applause] see you see the hair so just tricks people yeah there you go sean welcome to dream city man and just god bless you for all the work you've been doing seriously this church is amazing you guys are incredible thank we thank god for you all across america pastor tommy thank you so much beautiful place so sean tell us about your movement let us worship it was a brilliant um idea that you then put the work into i mean you spent hundreds of days away from home over the last year and a half and you came under intense opposition just walk us through all that yeah so leading up to the pandemic i had spent um about 20 years investing into really the most persecuted closed nations in the world my parents are both full-time medical missionaries so i grew up in a missionary home and so um i had been in places like north korea afghanistan iraq saudi arabia a lot of places across across the world and i didn't really care that much about america to be honest i mean just truthfully i was just like you know what america's heard the gospel let's move on you know they had their chance you know and then i started having kids and i have four now ages 11 9 7 and 3. we've been fruitful we've multiplied and i started to think about what is this nation going to look like for my children and i started to get concerned and of course i'm living in california where the polarization is great and where you know the intensity is great but yet also the revival history is great and um so anyway when the lockdowns happened uh i wasn't shocked because i just run for congress right in a very very perp well they told me it was a purple district it was actually blue district which i found out um in the bay area and i i discovered i peeked behind the veil right of gavin newsom and pelosi and all this stuff happening in california and i knew that there was an agenda at play during the lockdowns casinos were open strip clubs were open it was fine to go to costco but the church was the super spreader you know and so i thought okay let's start a let's first galvanize people right because i wasn't shocked the government was doing what it was doing i was shocked that so many people were complying so i'm sitting there in my house right this is this is i don't know if i've ever told this story like this but i did a pledge i called the pledge let us worship i circulated it online really sent it for all my friends in new york california states that were really locked down so sign this pledge let's take a stand and then i was sitting at home and i was getting these direct messages from my underground church pastor friends in iraq in india in afghanistan and they were saying you're not going to let the governor do that to you right sean come on you spend enough time with us you know what to do and they were egging me on and so i said okay we got to do something let's put feet to this pledge and so i put a post up on on social media and i said let's join me at the golden gate bridge tomorrow let us worship and i didn't know if anyone would come san francisco was really locked down and um we showed up and 400 people showed up on the golden gate bridge and i want to share this and then and then i can you know you can ask me more questions but what really shocked me guys was when we walked onto the bridge and and you know first they were like what are you guys here for what are you marching for and we said we're here for jesus we're here to pray and they said what took you so long we met these policemen that were on suicide patrol they had bicycles and they were on suicide patrol across the golden gate bridge and we told them we came that are praying and they started breaking down weeping they said you have no idea what we're experiencing people are jumping to their deaths so many people every day we can't stop them all and i had i've begun to realize the toll that this pandemic was taking on americans the story we weren't seeing the story of isolation depression heartache discouragement despair and how the church wasn't even open to meet those needs and so that really motivated us we we launched an accidental movement the next day we showed up in huntington beach a thousand people were there a few days later we showed up in san diego 5 000 people showed up on the beach in san diego and a movement was born you went to portland or was it seattle where they unplug yeah seattle and portland antifa showed up real strong and destroyed our gear threw our stuff down we got mace we got pepper sprayed we got harassed we had blood poured on us from satanists i mean we went into and you know because i had gone into some of these gnarly places around the world i felt like like we can't just look at seattle and portland and think like that's just like a north korea like we're called to bring light to darkness so we didn't go to the suburbs in seattle we went into chop we didn't go into the suburbs of portland we went to downtown right near the courthouse where they were burning copies of the bible and and did the government give you some pushback what was the what was the process of getting through yeah well i mean in seattle they kind of defunded the police so we took that to our advantage um in portland the uh in portland the police just didn't show up at all which was kind of like all right uh we'll have to fend for ourselves but in in portland you know that the chaplain of the police department called me and he was real sweet and he's like man we can't protect you it's crazy there's a gang of of teenagers that are knifing people at night we can't even find out who they are there's so much murder don't do this um and and and but then when we went back to seattle the second time the city barricaded the park in chicago we had a hundred lightfoots and a hundred police officers after us to close a park down um in tempe arizona i got i got a court case here in this i still have a court case here because of what we did in 2020 and a big fine i got to pay so yes we have faced resistance tell us about that one the one here yeah well it was weird because people were so sweet and so nice and we showed up and and you know i think they were having trouble issuing a permit and i said well you know they just had a you know protest rally here we're just going to do a protest for jesus you call it a protest and get away with it you know so we had 10 000 people that showed up in tempe the police we invited the police on stage we had a beautiful moment where we prayed over the police they prayed over us and the city began to interview the police and ask him they wrote up this really nice report this was the most amazing event we've ever had and then the city fined us thousands of dollars so anyway tempe yes tempe yeah um not shocked uh so so this movement in some ways you started with a lot of enthusiasm a lot of response but then sean you started to see some of the fault lines that already existed in the church so first came the controversy of whether or not the church should be open talk a little bit about kind of what you learned in that process of churches that were seemingly pretty bold previously and then they just shut their doors and they wanted nothing to do with you in fact they might have attacked you yeah yeah i mean that was really sobering you know i think you know i'm a worship leader too and so you know we write songs about you know we're slaying the giants in the land and we use all this language you know i'm no longer a slave to fear but i'm afraid to go to church and it just our theology was not lining up like our songs weren't lining up with our actions you know it was like it was like we sing about this sick being healed the dead being raised people getting touched like the light invading darkness and the moment where we can actually prove our songs many of us didn't show up and so you know and i'll say this too and i love the worship movement and i love the creatives and i am one but they were probably hit the hardest you know whereas they felt like they had to kind of form to a certain a a agenda shall i say and that compassion looked like putting a mask on and watching the live screen at home in your room when and people actually tried to build theology around that like this is what jesus would do and i'm like what jesus are you reading i mean he walked into sickness he walked into darkness he walked into the demonic and he brought freedom and he brought healing and he brought hope and so you know that that was the first thing that shocked me i'm like i'm like this is testing the core of our theology do we believe in the very songs we sing and so it was yeah it was crazy and then the great awokening happened right and so it was lockdowns and then the great awokening where all of a sudden you automatically sean had to be posting a black square you had to be apologizing for things you never did because of the color of your skin and in some of the church circles you run in that was a pretty prevalent kind of you must do this we're going to show up at 8 a.m on saturday morning and do the blm march and if you disagree you're a bad person you're a racist all the while you're trying to get people to say wait a second can we worship no no we don't do that the church is closed but the protest is open like walk us through that and kind of because you took a pretty hard stance against kind of this whole woke crt you know anti-family belief of blm yeah i mean to to me i think um you know the the woke agenda was was really a cop-out because it's like people pretending that they're virtuous and they have compassion and and and they're trying to guilt people like it's a guilt mechanism right that's not how the gospel works right there's grace there's freedom there's love but wokeness demands that you comply to a certain narrative or we shame you in churches we're using this we're weaponizing this you know and you know it's not like i i have the personal history of being in the nation's personal history i mean we have a team right now of 32 doctors on the ground in iraq in a refugee camp you know and it's like none of that mattered because i was white and i was this white supremacist and i was trying to capitalize on the pain of whatever thank god that we had such a diverse beautiful group of people i mean every gathering we had was incredibly diverse and i think that alone shattered that you know the the media and and the woke powers that be want you to buy into the narrative that we're disunified according to our race i've been to 160 cities across america to testify something different you know um one of my favorite things one of my favorite moments and this happened a bunch but we were in chicago and you know these blm protesters came out they probably said they were christians i don't know and they came out to protest our meeting in south chicago and and they were screaming and yelling and screaming my name and everything and they didn't know that like that day we had three black pastors that were preaching the gospel so the first one got up and he said hey man young man let me tell you something and he started preaching the gospel forgiveness you need to release your offenses and that white angry protester came down the altar gave his life to jesus we baptized him in the back of a truck bed and so what i found is that is that people were sucked into this narrative because i think genuinely charlie like i think our generation is born with a with a with the call for justice right i think we're just born with that we want a cause to live for we want to live for justice we want to do things for the kingdom and the the world just literally perverted that in this last season and told us the only way to do that is according to our rules the only way to do that is according to how we say and it was a guilt shame mechanism that many people fell for and i'm telling you we got to get back to the centrality of the gospel which is forgiveness and grace we don't mandate that people comply with some black square thing or whatever it was you know it was very manipulative in my opinion and it was all rooted in guilt and it was people that didn't know how to deal with guilt right a a legitimate christian a real christian you should be walking around without guilt because you're born new you're born free god can't even remember your sins what the scriptures say once you are born new um so let me ask you go ahead well no it also demanded it it wanted wokeness wanted love without truth you know it wanted it wanted a measure of love you know love is love is love is love is love is love is love without the truth of jesus without the truth of the gospel without the truth of salvation and so many people fell for it yeah so a lot of churches fell for it a lot some pastors fell for it it's where do you think we stand now with that you know how how deep is the woke infiltration of the modern church obviously this this church stands on the gospel and stands on truth and fights for liberty but you know sean you visit a lot of churches i do too but you probably have a better picture where does it stand now you know i i think we're there's definitely a polarization um i don't think we have to you know talk about certain movements that once had galvanized the church because even the press is annihilating them as being frauds right i think right now the biggest issue is people feel bad but they don't want to repent or change because of their pride from what they believed in before they're just trying to carry on like nothing happened and i'm kind of like well hey listen remember we warned you about that hello hello hello you know so there is a polarization i think in the church um and you know to be honest i think if you look at you know revival history or if you look at uh moves of god in the past i think polarization has always preceded revival so i used to hate it i don't hate it as much anymore so walk us through that that give us some examples how polarization precedes the revival well me and in pastor we're talking in the back there i mean revival rarely comes in in times of perfect peace it really comes in times of prosperity it really comes in times where i mean you know matthew 24 says that jesus pulls no punches he says listen it's there's going to be wars there's going to be rumors of wars hello season we're in there's going to be famines there's going to be earthquakes there's going to be all this stuff but take heart don't be alarmed tell someone next to you don't be alarmed don't be caught up in the hysteria it's going to happen and guess what i got news for you it's going to get worse but that's okay because we were born for such a time as this right but but the thing that charlie it says in matthew 24 then jesus says a couple verses later he says and and the increase of wickedness will cause the love of many to grow cold because of the increase because of the chaos because of the confusion because of the agendas many people are going to get caught up in it and the love of many is going to grow cold i mean how many people do we know in lockdowns or in the civil unrest they just left the church they just left god they just left everything you know the love of many will grow cold but then it says this promise that the gospel of the kingdom will be preached in every nation tribe and tongue it's going to happen not an emperor not a governor not a man i mean that's the thing we stood there in the capitol in in sacramento and we were you know we gathered 12 000 people in sacramento on the steps of the capitol our permit i think was only for 500 but and and i just said listen i wanted to sing that song you know that song you you learn as a kid pharaoh pharaoh ooh baby let my people go book come on any assembly of god people out there you know what i'm talking about because i'm like gavin newsom who do you think you are the church never allows the government to tell us when and how to worship god you know and the polarization the government the intensity you know i mean we're living in it right now and i think it's gonna get worse joel prophesied joel 2 it says it's the great and terrible day of the lord you can focus on how terrible it is but you can focus on how great it is i love to focus on how great it is because it is a season of historic revival so sean you know some of both of our um kind of christian counterparts they would they would push back they'd say you know you guys talk about america and politics too much just focus on the gospel you know you're but we're talking of course to sean who's brought thousands of people to the lord and you know we talk about the gospel every single week on our podcast on our radio show you know it's a big part of what we do how do you how do you navigate that how do you push back against that and you have an american you know flag patch on your sleeve you're unapologetically american you talk about the virtues of this country and you're able to weave that into the teachings of the gospel you know a lot of people in this audience probably have people in their life that other christians that say i'm not into that i don't care about america come on i i just care about the gospel help us through that well one funny thing is you know we get called everything christian nationalists this has said that and then all of a sudden those same people are like stand for ukraine anyway i won't go down that that i'm not going to go down that you guys know what i'm talking about but you know what happened last night is a perfect example charlie every senate democrat but one every single senate democrat but this is the polarization i was telling you guys about right now every senate democrat for one voted for the most fanatical extreme abortion bill in the history of our nation everyone but one voted yes on it last night in the senate to allow abortion up until the moment of birth that would put us in great company north korea china so you look at that and you think how how like how can we as believers how can anybody as a believer vote on that platform when every single person on that platform comes into agreement with the shedding of innocent blood this is not the the blue dog dems of the of the you know this is a season of incredible polarity and so i think you know and and charlie i'm saying this as somebody that dude i organized prayer meetings across america for years you know we did 24-hour prayer meetings we gathered in 2000 with five you know almost 500 000 people on the mall in dc we prayed for the ending of roe v wade and at some point i felt the lord say hey it's great to pray about it why don't you do something why don't you put feet to your prayers why don't you engage you know and so that's why i ended up running for congress and i feel like this is the season of action like we can't we can't stand by america is an amazing nation you know i've been to 70 nations around the world there's not a place like it historically it's brought the greatest propagation of the gospel of any of any nation in the history of humanity it's not even debatable and so why should we not fight for the destiny of this nation just like you know david you read the book of psalms there's a lot of psalms where david's singing about israel he's singing not songs to god songs to israel telling everybody how much he loves israel telling everybody how much he wants to see god's promises over israel why should we not want that in the nation where our kids are going to grow up in why should we not want this to be a prosperous nation you know so i feel like it is a time to engage we have to we're salt and light we cannot allow the political space to be the one sphere where christ is not being felt and known and seen [Applause] and that's part of the the spirit that we want to try to instill um america is a different type of country our core tenant is liberty in god we trust e pluribus unum it's the american trinity so we all know the christian trinity god the father god the son god the spirit we don't talk about the american trinity and this is dennis prager's theory which is just phenomenal which is on every coin you can see the american trinity and all three are biblical values liberty god wants you to live freely in god we trust that's a core value of the christian faith obviously you know in it's all throughout the bible uh and then number three is e pluribus unum which is a latin phrase which means out of many one and it goes to a christian verse that we all know which is nor slave nor greek nor jew we are all free in jesus christ america was founded on those three ideas liberty and god we trust in e pluribus unum they're minted on our coins they're on our currency everything that we believe comes from those three ideals show me any christian doctrine that is widely accepted that you know in mainstream christianity that would not say we believe in those three things and show me another country where those three things are said that's that's so important we're going to put it on our money on our currency it doesn't exist and you know god wants us to live in a state of freedom he wants to set the captives free that's why i love the story of exodus so much and you know kind of very similar to what you're talking in sacramento is there is a yearning in the human heart to want to be free and what came after the story of exodus is uh equally as important it also is in the book of exodus which is once people are free which you're seeing right now now that all these restrictions are lifted sean what happened once the the people of israel were in the desert they started complaining again they said wait a second why are we in the desert who's this moses guy you bring us back to egypt because at least we ate meat when we were in egypt they basically said we want to go back to slavery because we had better food and so there is this tension in the human heart to want to be free and want to be taken care of and it would be easy sean you've traveled 70 countries to just have someone want to take care of us to give us stuff to be able to blame people for our problems um and so sean help us through that from a biblical theological perspective give us some more support kind of that informs your you know your not political but philosophical approach to these ideas no that's that's amazing i you know i always think in america you know the church gets so geeked out right when cooper cup scores the game-winning touchdown in the super bowl right well not in arizona but in l.a right socal and and then he gives this speech about how much he loves god and he has this amazing story about how him his wife do bible studies and he's a good guy right we get pumped when kanye west does an album jesus christ it's king or whatever with jesus is king or whatever we get pumped when you know a a billionaire professes their faith and we're like that's our god that's our gut yeah that's amazing but the moment a christian runs for politics like i live this okay so i have a little bit of authority to talk about it like the moment that a cr like everything else is fine all other spaces are fine but when mama when a christian runs for politics i mean i have friends that i like i was like these guys gonna back me right we talk in the back room about these issues we're all in one accord the moment a christian takes a stand apologies like oh i don't know i don't know i don't know about that what's he doing this for i don't know but that you know and and it's like it's on i think it's actually demonic man i think that there is this thing in the church where the enemy has so messed up our churches and our theology to not allow christians think about it say there are seven spheres of society right there's only one sphere that regulates all the other spheres we experience that in kovid who controls our lives where you can go when you can have church what you can do and if we don't have christians represented if we're not salt and light in the one sphere that controls all other spheres how are we faithfully responding to the great commission so growing up as a missions kid i just thought well i'm going to be a missionary in congress like honestly that was my heart like i like the lord sent me into closed nations before god can send me wherever he wants to go when i gave jesus my yes i told him i'll go anywhere the greatest price i ever had to pay my family ever had to pay when i gave jesus my yes to go into politics the darkest space i've ever encountered out of any nation in the world is a space of politics and it's because christians are afraid to represent jesus in that space anyway that's intense but it's true why do you think that that's the case i think because because there's too much dualism where we separate that we separate politics from our faith and it's like that's not actually the hebraic way all of our life right jesus gets all of our life every space of our life don't bring jesus into the ballot box oh yeah bring jesus into the ballot box don't bring jesus into your politics yeah bring jesus into your politics i mean look at the founding fathers you know i mean this is our call as christians and so you know my pushback against that is when you see like what happened last night in that senate vote it's impossible to be a believer and not like absolutely rise up go hold on a minute what every single senate democrat but one wants babies to die up until the moment of birth i'm not okay with this we gotta hold the line turn to someone say hold the line so so sean before we open it up for questions um kind of just give a charge to the regular everyday people people that are homeschooling people that are on the front lines you know you've seen and heard a lot you know give a word of encouragement what you're seeing happening across the country right now in the fight for liberty yeah so so guys i'm i'm so encouraged um you know i'm encouraged because the enemy overplayed his hand and this is not like i'm not just you know making like this is preachers that no i've seen it i've seen seven thousand people gather in downtown portland i've seen ten thousand people gather in nashville we had the largest church service in 2020 in america forty thousand peep believers showed up at the height of covid 45 degrees in the rain the enemy overplayed his hand he wanted to kick us out of our church and we just said okay fine the church has left the building we don't want just the church anymore we want it all we want the gospel of the kingdom to invade every part of society we want to see jesus in the schools again we want to see prayer come back in schools we want to see the presence of god in business we want to see and this is the season we're in it's a revival in our society it's a revival in our society we're not going back to the way it was we're not going back to the pre-coveted church we're not going back we're not going back and i'm telling you and i'm just going to pray over you and then we'll do q a i want to pray for you just stand up real quick i want to pray over you because i want to pray over you listen i'm not saying this this is not just nice you know rah-rah you know speech i have seen it with my own eyes you name the hardest city in america i've seen god move there no place is too hard and no place is too dark and we can't even be in you know i was i was in miami over new year's we had governor desantis come who's amazing and had him come and he looked at me and he said he said well why don't you just move everything to florida we're the free state we're free everything's free and i'm like well i'm like that's amazing i would love that but who's going to fight for california we also can't be the conservatives and the christians that run to places that are easy that's not the gospel either he's sending us into the difficult places and i believe this is the year where we're going to see a turnaround we're going gonna see it politically but we're gonna see it spiritually amen so god i just thank you lord that there is an awakening happening right now in our nation lord and i pray over every person out here god these beautiful people that love america and they love you i pray today god that you would fill them with boldness lord we thank you that it says in proverbs that the righteous are as bold as a lion i pray today god that they would be filled with boldness and courage and optimism even right now we don't even know what's going on with the state of the union praise god but lord we tell you we have a better report we have a better report of what you're doing on the earth and i pray today it would be a day of boldness it would be a day of courage and lord based upon the testimony of what i've seen across america we say this is the year of awakening in our nation we believe it we believe it in jesus name come on just give a shout just give a shout tonight sean floyd everybody everybody please take a seat let's do some questions you guys can line up in the aisle and uh as people line up sean uh talk a little about how people can follow you and support the great work you're doing we have two lines of questions and students get priority so if you're a student yeah you guys uh get priority we want to hear from you hear what's going on uh sean really quick how people can follow yeah and then we'll start over there i think they have some slides you can throw them up if you have them but um you can follow us on social media on your way outside you can grab some of our let us worship merch and gear and hoodies these are the cities we're going to throw them up there these are the cities we're going to be going to 12 cities across america that kicks off in lafayette and the cajun dome and it ends in on the national mall in washington d.c we just secured the permit for the national mall a week and a half before the midterms so i expect all you sunny arizona people to join us for a wild party of course we're going to new york philly we got the uh we got the uh square the independent square where the liberty bell hangs we got that reserved it's going to be an epic year we're going for broke we're going for revival go to the next slide i don't know what what else you guys got but anyway and it's uh let us worship.us yeah lettuceworship.us.org.com oh one more thing we're getting heavily censored right now of course shadow band because you know dangerous content the gospel's dangerous you know so um follow us on on on social media but you can also text 20 22 1 sean to 20 22 1 if you text that you can join our our our text thread and in our email list and all that kind of stuff so do that and it would be amazing perfect all right let's start here hi so recently there's been a lot of talk of a national divorce and i was just wondering what you think about that slash do you think we're headed for a civil war yeah so i've done a lot of uh talking about this and i'll i'll do some more by the way um we had uh yeah sean doesn't want to answer this that's fine let him answer that's fine i i specialize in the tough stuff so um i'll bring i'll bring sean back to pray and then i'll do the old stuff so um yeah national divorce you know civil war sure why not um so yeah look i've done a couple podcasts on this so let me first i have to preface by saying this a national divorce would be awful it'd be terrible i don't want to see this country torn apart we are a union of 50 states the states created the federal government the federal government did not create the states but we'd be fooling ourselves if we did not take a step back and ask ourselves what are the ties that bind us together to our fellow countrymen in manhattan and san francisco right now let me give you an example we believe the constitution is a wonderful political document they think the constitution is trash most of them we believe marriage is one man and one woman they believe that marriage is whatever you want it to be we believe in rights given by god they don't even believe in god we believe in borders they don't believe they believe in open borders i could go on we a lot of times we don't even speak the same linguistic language right where english becoming an increasingly minority language in some of these areas so you have to ask yourself the question what is it that ties us together to your fellow citizen well it's the dollar okay well what happens when the dollar becomes increasingly devalued which we're seeing in real time and you might have a currency reset the point that i'm getting at is we're in a much more fragile cultural footing than i think people actually want to say out loud when i go to los angeles i have to go with armed guards and the whole you know whole thing for death threats and all that i don't feel as if i'm visiting a country where i share values with in any way shape or form i see more schools that are protesting in favor of blm you know this kind of woke lgbt agenda and i asked myself you know half the country looks at that completely different now the way we avoid a national divorce and i'll get to the civil war question in a second which would be a tragedy is actually if the other side just decided that they don't want to impose their viewpoint on us a lot of this would simmer down right a lot of this would simmer down if you have difference of opinions like okay the people in alabama they see the world the one way we in malibu we see the world one way whatever we're not gonna go anywhere the problem is they are relentlessly trying to push this stuff outwardly in places that don't share their values and they're almost trying to provoke a response so they're going to birmingham or they go to scottsdale and the next thing you know is they're having your children in scottsdale fill out forms that could potentially tattle on their parents on whether or not they're being compliant with crt type guidelines or woke agenda which was something they mistakenly said you know sent into parents so there's almost this imperialist mindset by the american left and so the way we must respond um and we must respond by saying that we want to keep the country together there's more that unites us than what divides us but i have called for quite some time we must realize that the center of power on the american left is actually not a majority of people i really don't believe a majority of people believe men can become pregnant i don't however i believe that the people that believe men who could become pregnant are powerful people they run apple for example your apple iphone has a pregnant man emoji i don't know if you know this or not it's a huge debate they came out with it obviously don't update yeah don't update obviously one of the most important things apple could be worrying about right now there's all that can only go on for so long i have called for a while that we need a political extinction event of the woke left we need to make it unacceptable to believe for example that we should judge people based on the color of their skin that men can become pregnant that we should have segregated classrooms like in colorado they have play time at playgrounds only for black families and white families are not allowed but this garbage has got to stop and i believe most americans are looking for an outlet or a vehicle to repudiate that and want a return to team reality the civil war thing here's what i do believe most americans don't want a civil war i don't think we will get to a civil war unless for whatever reason the other side tries to provoke people and the people on the right aren't disciplined enough to realize that they're trying to tempt you into something fake to justify a securities responsive return i've said this openly before don't take the bait satan would love nothing more than to try to have you get into a conversation or political dialogue that would then all of a sudden say hey we have to get more power at the fbi or doj to take care of these people that want to tear the country apart we must be explicit unifiers we must be always trying to bring people together on things that are agreeable and they're a part of the american trinity how's that for addressing a pretty controversial topic all right thank you [Applause] hey i have a question for sean um how did you get your start with bethel music and what was that whole experience like uh what were some highlights of that and do you have a method for getting alone with the lord and getting in a creative space whether it's lyric writing or uh on guitar or just that in general yeah um i never wanted to be a worship leader or like all my family are doctors like besides me i don't i guess i couldn't measure up um but i i really did love worship and i loved the presence of god and i loved um the fact that i could learn a few chords and and have that time of worship in in myself and so anyway one thing led to another and i started leading worship and never wanted to be on a label but god just opened doors and i think that for me um i think especially in covid and even the lettuce worship movement if you guys have ever been that's a big part of what we do you know it's just worship it's not a precursor to something it's not a get us ready for the preaching thing it is the main thing you know it is how we bring heaven to earth it is how we change our hearts it is how we can live with sanity in this crazy world you know um so for me i think you know i have to make sure to carve time to get to get along with the lord and to be intentional about it i wish i could say there's some you know magic way to do it but i think it's just comes down to being really intentional and i have four kids in a crazy world but you know i have to maintain that creative space and i think the on the creative end opportunities will come and opportunities will go but whether i'm on a label or off the label i actually kind of like it better now because i can do whatever i want um uh you know i just just follow the lord in the doors that he opens so i hope that answers it yeah thank you hello sean and charlie i just want to know because you guys are very influential with people and you guys are able to speak with people so well and just want to know like how can like a person like me be able to speak into the hearts of people and to really attract them yeah so look your shirt's a good start i like the shirt you're doing good there um yeah so i you you said specifically just about speaking you know someone asked me the other day um you know i was just getting an iv at prawn i think our prana friends are here somewhere if you guys ever need an iv in the valley they're amazing check them out i was just there a couple hours ago uh there are back there and uh they're wonderful and i would you know they said that i'm a good speaker i said look when you do 15 000 20 000 speeches you know it's hard to be bad at it after that um you know it's i used to get nervous when i had to speak way back when um you know 10 years ago and you know 12 years ago when i first started this and it's perfectly normal it is um and i say this i believe any person can become a good public speaker i really believe that um and you need to have passion and you need to be interesting and you also need to prepare a lot of public speaking is preparing and knowing what you're talking about ahead of time and there's a multitude of opportunities is what i tell young people all the time they say you know charlie i don't know what i want to do i say if you be if you get okay at public speaking you'll be a very successful person because most people don't want to do it most people don't want anything to do with public speaking it's a huge differentiator so you ask specific about speaking into that uh that's really important but also um you know you have to know what you believe and why you believe it and to spend a lot of time learning and diving deep into those ideas sean yeah um i i would just say i think a lot of the the gifts and and you know that you want to excel at or you want to get become better at i think it comes down to stewardship you know and it's like what do you have in front of you who are you influential to right now you know and how can you steward that influence you know to be all that god's called you to be and it's amazing how the lord will begin to build that because you know despite the popular belief god doesn't doesn't run on communist principles everyone's not given the same i mean it's just the bible some are given five some are given ten some are given i'm not given charlie's brain right and i don't have his hair that's true perfect example perfect you know and and and so but yet but yet the lord actually takes from the one that does nothing with it and it gives the one that is a good steward and so that's my encouragement to you man is like wherever that sphere of influence is you know do everything that you can do to steward that well and watch god bring an increase to it yeah and i'll just say this is that you know this is just more general advice to young people is that some people get resentful because they say i don't have the skills that other people have you know i grew up with some superstars that were so unbelievably talented and they made some decisions and they're not superstars anymore they had the raw talent where they could have been ceos and they could have been unbelievable but the people that you know i grew up with some of them that were always worked hard but they would have just been you know i don't know if i have all the skills and they're like rock stars 10 years later i tell it's about work ethic it's about values it's about integrity it's about application of those things and constantly trying to be a better person so i hope that's helpful thank you hello so my question revolves around something that was mentioned earlier the idea that the political sphere is the only sphere that christians really aren't trying to dive into uh or i should say kind of fear but as we've seen with life we see that the music industry the uh entertainment sports even like with all the criticism against tim tebow all these industries and spheres that are so influential on our lives are being attacked constantly and so for i'm in speaking for everybody in here we don't necessarily have the influence that you guys do so kind of bouncing off the previous question as well how do we as individuals with lesser influence attack these fears that are so secular and start bringing jesus into the hearts and minds of the people around us you know what flip virginia you know i lived in virginia throughout high school it's been blue blue blue who flipped virginia wasn't trump it was parents right that were unafraid to raise their voice you know and i'm telling you this i believe this and i don't know charlie if you agree with me but i think 2022 is the year of parents man parents are not playing games and they're just normal people ordinary people they don't have big social media followings they're not you know but they get up there i mean you don't mess with a mama bear i mean for real you do not mess even jesus was you know his mom remember the story where jesus was like hey it's not my time and his mom goes oh i'll tell you when it's your time you're going to turn that water into wine right now you know so that's that's my mother's day sermon it's a good one um i'll come back and preach preach my mother's day sermon no but my going back to it i i think you know we underestimate the power of boldness in what it does it just takes one person to take a stand and that's what we saw in virginia to flip the whole state so i think this is here we're going to see that more yeah and i'll just expand on that is that you know don't don't look at influence as numbers as men as many people as you can i know a lot of people that have big social media followings but they really don't influence that many people it's just they have people they follow them because they're clowns or whatever it you know it's it's better to have five or six people that you influence on a very quality way and god will bless that and honor that and if you are trying to look for the numbers like i want to influence millions and millions of people first you have to understand that comes with a tremendous cost i just have to just say it takes a lot of work and you'll come under a lot of attack maybe that's something you want but it really is not something that is impossible for the everyday person if you apply in that way become a master at one or two things a topic that really interests you right it could be immigration it could be abortion it could be whatever it is you're like no matter what like i might not be able to know everything about every topic but i'm gonna try to win influence in this one thing and anytime this thing comes up i'm going to be the mover and the shaker in that category or that topic or that issue um and i think that's really important because if you look at to kind of piggyback off sean's example it was all around education in in virginia right it was all about parents getting involved in education and kind of all all the involvement in that so thank you so much your question really appreciate it i just want to ask what was the tone that attacked you and rejected you the most when you were protesting and why who was the one that attacked me the most oh the town sorry the state the what the state well we were number one uh on the governor's website in the state of washington we were the number one covet breakers um on his website um you know gavin newsom released these ordinances they called the sean rules um i could go on and on no i i think honestly the the what shocked me the most was the sheer demonic violence that i witnessed in seattle and portland i've never seen that in america before and you know the the the fact that p like that was actually a spirit right people like i mean the they're crazy right they were they were macing and pepper spraying babies that showed up at our events they were throwing spikes in the road so that car tires would explode as people left gathering to worship you know surrounded my wife and kids at one point with knives in their back you know we have we have a documentary coming out not to plug that but sharing the whole story you know it's going to be wild for americans to really see what happened and yeah a lot of a lot of intensity but you know we persevered and and and we stood up and we worshiped god and breakthrough came and people got saved and people got healed and people got delivered and so it was really worth it it was really worth it i like your hat thanks man thank you all right uh my name is kenny uh so you both are fathers so i guess i'm just asking not yet he's a father i'm a husband so you're being prophetic though he might be a father there we go soon to be father then uh what advice would you give to parents uh in today's society on protecting their children as far as parenting like obviously going to schools but as far as parenting as protecting our child our children from the lies that the society is trying to tell them yeah i mean you know i was watching my kids the other day actually just yesterday and i don't know just having a moment maybe some of you parents have felt this and i just kind of overwhelmed i'm like they are facing things that i never faced man grew up in the 80s and 90s i mean we had some stuff but nothing like they're facing you know the perversion the levels of of of that they want to mess up their identity and i was just yeah the gender stuff the confusion the and i just was i was like god how are they gonna make it and you know they're i have all blond-haired kids that's all we make it's like blond-haired blue-eyed kids and and they're just running on the beach in their innocence and i'm just thinking they don't even know what they're up against anybody ever felt like any parents ever felt like that and i heard the lord say really and this was like powerful to me like i heard the holy spirit say sean i created them for such a time as this i created i fashioned them and so i think one is never never parent from fear never parent because you're afraid of the boogeyman and the enemy right be cautious be careful but know that god's given them a spirit inside of them that is powerful right my daughter she's 11 years old she is a praying prophesy machine she will walk up to any all in here and give you the greatest prophetic word you've ever had in your life you know she knows jesus right and and we just keep getting them in the atmosphere where they can get filled up by god where they can encounter god where they can get marked by god i believe that's the difference maker and then of course don't let them learn any of that crap you know and secular and public education we wanted to control and covet we really wanted to control and and be able to steward the environment right of them as they walk through the pandemic and so we took them out of school because one day you have to wear a mask next day you can't go one day you know it's like we're like you know what we're not going to do this we are going to party with god and so we took them on the road with us and they experienced revival across america we home schooled in a camper we did it out of hotel rooms and they'll never forget that season so i i that's my encouragement is just don't do it don't parent from fear know that god's got you but also use wisdom it's awesome well i could just i mean i'm not not a father yet but i could say that um from the from the turning point perspective of helping parents all across the country you know with the educational piece uh which is so incredibly important um you know parents i say if you spend one hour a week this has been a challenge we've said before spend one hour a week with all the devices off and teach your children something about american history or philosophy you might say well that's awfully intimidating i'm just going to keep on plugging this and we've talked about some amazing educational options together but one that we've partnered with charlieforhillsdale.com i've said it before it's a way that you guys could take these online courses teach your kids the constitution or american history it's very important um and so take ownership of your kids education it might not be homeschooling by the way i think homeschooling is a great option and god bless our homeschooling parents but it might not be the right option for you i get that then it's got one hour a week if you can't dedicate one hour a week then you know the battle is already lost but think about that that one hour a week is 52 hours a year that will be all about things of instilling those values that really matter that will really make a tremendous impact okay next question hi um how hard was it to like stay faithful to god and not have the urge just to go home like after all the struggles oh the struggles um you know i think the hardest part was you know it wasn't the opposition of you know the governors or mayors or antifa or protesters it was the distance of friends and i think the distance and the desertion of friends the relational component um i think was i think it was really hard for jesus you know in the garden where he's like man you guys couldn't just stay up one hour and have my back you know and i think that he you know he walk he hasn't walked through anything that we we don't walk through right that's why he can meet us in our place of need you know and i think that that for me in that season for me my wife that was the most difficult thing but on the flip side the most incredible thing about that was as it got open new doors and new relationships and new connections and you know here i am with charlie talking about the amazing thing god's done and i don't know if i would be there if we had not have taken that stand so sometimes the relational disconnect is is hurtful but it's necessary i don't know if that's helpful to some of you guys i mean i'm like i'm a i'm an eight seven on the enneagram like i'm an eight challenger but the seven is like let's party i want everyone to party like let's just party let's rage together this is awesome but this was a season where the eight came out and it was like no we need to challenge this spirit you know and i'm gonna lose some friends in the meantime but but i i we found god in it so the hardest was the relational thing i don't know i'm sure you guys can identify that's always the most difficult at least for me but sometimes it's necessary thank you man appreciate it thank you next question hi um my question for you guys is i'm vice president at my school i'm in student council and people look up to me as a role model and a leader but there aren't many christians on my school maximum probably seven and it's very sad as me as a 13 year old so my question for y'all is how can i help them become christians but also be strong in their faith what a beautiful question isn't that that's so terrific first i just want to encourage you that um being 13 years old and going through this uh you're going to be a formidable force for jesus when you're 18 20 or 30. i'll tell you what [Applause] um i'm going to tell you the truth you're going to lose friends and you're going to get bad things set at you maybe that's already happened right christians will get bullied it's part of what we are guaranteed it's part of our bargain you know we get salvation and we get suffering here in life quite a quite a momentary deal some people why would you do that well look we we know what's really going on here but here's the thing is that you could rise above all that and you should rise above all that and i would just you know stay really anchored in the scriptures um you know my my wife does a bible in 365 ministry that helps people read the bible in one year she does a great job of that um and i would the more you dive into that and you are a ambassador for what it means to be a christian and to be christ-like um because that seven i guarantee you is actually probably even more because some people are probably scared to say that they're christians they're scared to say that they believe what you believe um but let's pretend it is just seven there's no reason why that seven can't become 14 or 70 very very soon and to multiply and when jesus talked about the parable the talents and he's talking about people like you so you have the good news you know jesus is your lord and savior but you're in a pretty tough environment right well you're also in a position of leadership though that's awesome so people are going to look up to you in times of pressure so a good rule for life is pressure is when your values come out okay so you could hide your values when you're like on vacation well vacations are really stressful but like you know what i mean like you could hide your values when it's not tough but when you get under pressure and there's a due date and you've got to get your homework done and your friend doesn't have the homework done or you don't he's like hey let's just cheat and get the answers in that's going to be pressure to find out whether or not you actually believe it or not right and that's going to be an opportunity for you as a leader like hey we're going to take the bad grade because it'd be worse to lie than to get a good grade with you know it would be worse to to lie with a good grade than to not so but i just want to encourage you you're you're 13 years old and i'm telling you this is a great example before sean chimes in there's a there's a generation of superstars that are rising up i'm telling you that our younger and are tougher than anything we've seen sean we're so proud of you you're amazing you're gonna be just fine thank you god bless you thank you so much hi my name is megan um thank you guys for what you guys do i just had a question in regards to something that i feel like has not touched on a lot and it's like with the f joe biden and the let's go brandon so i used to kind of like say let's go brandon a lot and my brother challenged me like let's try to like revert away from saying that and i'm like why is that he goes because as a christian like we want people to be known by our love and at the end of the day like we want justice to be shown bu