Charlie Kirk and James Lindsay Expose Marxist Grooming Agenda Targeting American Children at Dream City Church

we have a very special guest tonight and I love dream City I gotta tell you this is a really special place that is worthy of Applause please clap as some people would say I I want to share two things and then we'll get right into our guest and our guest is um not someone that you will always hear at a church he does speak at a fair amount of churches and he's become a very good friend of mine uh but first I want to I want to just share with you and I'm sure some of you agree I believe self-control is one of the fruits of the spirit not just I believe it says it and I am I think like perpetually Furious is the best way I could put it at the mockery of the idea of justice of what I'm seeing in our country right now this is not a political thing okay not at all if you have a love of the Lord and a love of decency this is an insult to our customs our Traditions to our reason and quite honestly every Pastor in America should be speaking out about this it is so grotesque it is so terrible and I mean you you know what I'm talking about and all the while we have child sex trafficking which praise God Dream City does such a great job to stop and we have to turn a blind eye to that and I have to be lectured about somebody thinking something and correctly and be indicted by our government so it takes a fair amount of self-control um and I think for all of us but I think it's really important that we stay disciplined and understand that this is evil that this is not rational Behavior this is not justifiable behavior um you could have all sorts of mixed opinions about the former president right you could say every insult I've heard them all but to use the full force of the government to go after somebody who then wants to challenge the current Administration it's never happened in American history it's completely unacceptable and honestly these people these people are low lives of what they are doing and I know that you're not allowed to say that at a church but I'm sorry they're lowlifes what they're doing and I try I try to stay restrained from it because what does it say in Jeremiah 29 7 which is our theme verse demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare and when your instruments of Justice can just be deployed against dissidents people that have differences of opinion I get asked all the question Charlie what can we do and honestly in that situation you could pray you could fast but the most important thing we can do is we can dive deep into these ideas organize our communities take education seriously of our children and understand that you are living through a mass demoralization campaign the most important thing you can do is remain cheerful and joyful and not give up they are doing this to make you try and surrender you need to act the opposite do more show up more pray more because I I'll be I watch this and if it was not for my faith and for my why yeah I get you more alive I'll be honest it's like my goodness I lose track of the indictments and I do this for a living superseding indictments document it's on but it's absolutely unbelievable and but why do we get involved do we get involved because we think we can win or do we get involved out of obedience if you do what you do out of obedience then it does not matter if all of a sudden it gets cloudy and if it gets negative you do it because you love God and he loves you that's why you stay involved that's why you organize and so I've been studying and now this is the second thing I'm going to talk about and then I'll welcome James I've been studying the Old Testament uh Dennis Prager did a series of lectures over a course of 15 years how great was Prager when he had him by the way was that not a great time it was so good and he he's he's a Jew but in some ways I actually like you know it's I mean obviously something wrong with it I mean it's he's he's a bible-believing Orthodox Jew and some people criticize oh Charlie you're learning the Bible from you know someone who's Jewish I said actually you know enjoy that because they know the Hebrew and they can teach it from an original intent standpoint and then you could pick and choose what you want obviously from a Christian lens but I find it super interesting and Incredibly deep and he put so much work into these lectures so I'm now on finally into Deuteronomy after 600 hours of listening to his lectures and had an easy accomplishment if you if you want to just give up study Leviticus in the month of June they say holy moly the Priestly garments of Leviticus 12. how does this apply to my life well Prager applies it to your life it's pretty amazing so I've just finished again one of if if one of my life's our team at TP USA faith is here they know that one of my my life missions is to actually have the book of numbers called what it's actually called which is in the wilderness I think more people would read the book if it was called in the wilderness numbers sounds like a math book right like parameters like measuring the ark or the Tabernacle outside of like the first six books of numbers which is where we get the book it's all naming tribes it's an incredibly interesting book you have spies you have Rebellion you have treachery you have covenants you have tonking donkeys you like you got all sorts of crit no it's literally you got balaam's donkey and numbers 19. so I've been I just finished studying it and I love the word of God because it speaks back to you right and it's just this incredible thing if you're if you're not a Christian I highly recommend it uh it'll change your life um so this one part really stood out to me and it's just kind of been this there's so many different ways to interpret this and just apply it to your life not interpret it so it's num it's number in the wilderness 11 or numbers 11 right where you remember the context right God delivers his chosen people out of Egypt they need or want for nothing right they've seen the Red Sea parted they've seen the Nile turn to blood I mean they've seen incredible stuff and they're doing nothing but complaining and not once I mean they're complaining like every other chapter right and this one is just so incredible which is a good trivia question which is true or false cucumbers melons leeks onions and garlic are mentioned in that order in the Old Testament true yeah they're literally complaining that when they were slaves in Egypt that they ate better I'll read this in a second and I think there's a couple there's a couple lessons I'm going to apply it especially to the news I led with numbers four now the rabble that was among them had a strong craving and the people of Israel wept they wept they were crying and said oh that we had meat to eat we remember the fish we ate in Egypt that cost nothing let me stop there why did it cost nothing yeah they were slaves yes they were slaves everything is free when you're a Slave that's awfully wise when people say they want everything to be free isn't it cost is not our labor we the Cucumbers the melons the leeks the onions and the garlic but now our strength is dried up and there's nothing at all but this Manna to look at they had all the food that they needed and yet they were filled with ingratitude and it literally is the name of the chapter is the people complain now it goes on God was so displeased with this and he comes down with fire God does not like complainers at all and if I were to just give a little bit of a sterisk on this the entire American left is basically weaponized complaining this is indistinguishable from the Marxist left I just gotta be honest I don't have health care I don't have birth control I'm not happy okay great human nature doesn't change but let's make sure that we are also making sure that we don't become the complainers it's so easy right because what was I doing I was man I'm upset I'm angry and the Injustice what is the way to handle what's happening right now it's not to complain you can point out the Injustice but it's to do good it is to do good things not to complain and be filled with ingratitude we still live in a free Society we still live in the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world and there's still a lot of fight left in this country let me tell you what and I think we have to be the lesson for me is we cannot become expert complainers we need to become doers whatever that means in your life and whatever that calling means so our speaker tonight is is really special I've done a series of speeches with him across the country on campuses and other venues and so we have up until this point every speaker Dennis Prager being you know a a practicing Jew is the only one that wouldn't fit this criteria has been a bible-believing Christian James Lindsay at one point was part of the new atheist movement and he's now agnostic so we're making progress right James we're moving we're moving along we're moving now I I got to be honest it drives me nuts and I don't care if you know anything about me but it does drive me nuts temporarily because I get these sanctimonious emails from certain pastors and churches Charlie how dare you you know like to Greta funberg you know talking to me how dare you talk to James Lindsay at a church about whatever I said well let me first tell you about James Lindsay he knows the Bible better than most pastors I guarantee you that okay number one number two he loves the truth number three he is the number one expert in America on Marxism and critical race Theory number one if I told you I could bring an expert up here that could tell you how to solve and properly diagnose a societal ill I think you'd welcome that person to the church I think you say you know what what can I learn where do I agree where do I disagree he has unbelievable respect for the church and every church that welcomes him I could tell you is infinitely blessed and you know I dream city deserves so much credit I called Joe and they were like you know what Charlie this is great this is awesome you know we're going to learn here and I just think how broken the American church is where they are so worried that I'm having James Lindsay come and they will not even at the same time simultaneously speak out with truth against all the other stuff like go take a hike there's lots of trails around here okay this man I'm telling you he's in the trenches he travels like 300 days a year the books he has published will blow your mind race Marxism the marxification of Education cynical theories I don't say this lightly he is the number one expert at being able to explain to you the threat of how how and why they're grooming your children what is this LGBT thing and what is behind it what is critical race Theory what drives the Marxist and most importantly he teaches us how to win so let's give an enthusiastic welcome to my friend Dr James Lindsey so James welcome to Dream City yeah well thank you all for having me such a warm welcome thank you for the introduction Charlie uh that was actually very nice you would think some of these people would be happy that I come to a church as opposed to upset that I've come to a church but I think it's awesome that James is in a church right now I think that's so cool right so you said that every time I come to a church I bless the church that's very kind to me but the church always blesses me back I learned something new every time for example 10 days ago the previous Sunday last Sunday I think I was flying home from the swamp uh so I wasn't at church but the previous Sunday I actually went to church in Tampa Florida and they were doing a sermon on the book of numbers and so you were just talking about the importance of obedience the importance of doing the complainers in chapter 11 and the pastor is preaching out of chapter 14 and He was discussing that God was very displeased I gave them tens I showed them 10 times I'm never delivering them to what they think they want that was the message he's not going to let him go to Canaan like sorry you complain too much and and so when you compare this to the Marxist left that they're The Perennial perpetual complainers and in fact that's kind of a definition a working definition for the woke is complaining about everything all the time we can be sure that they're not going to get what they think they want they're not going to get delivered to the land they think that they're making that the the promised land that they think they're going to have is not going to be given to them because of the complainers and I love that so James let's take a little step back you have a PhD in mathematics how on Earth did you get into the space where now you are the armor-piercing shell against the degenerate Marxist left I usually get called the tip of the spear so armor piercing shell is way cooler I very much like this thank you that's really awesome so yeah I do have a PhD in math I actually got fed up with the university the last two years I was teaching the last year I spent in the University was 2010 to give you some some timeline on this so the issue was that they were focusing on student retention especially for freshmen and sophomores over all other priorities don't give them bad grades don't make them feel bad don't fail too many of them these are the kinds of instructions that we were getting if you fail too many kids you're going to have to come justify it in the faculty meeting or something and you're gonna have to show why they did that badly and I thought I can't teach math I mean I make the joke like they took away my one joy in life as a math teacher which is failing kids but I actually didn't like failing kids it's just a math thing um it's hard math is hard but I couldn't teach in good faith that way so I left the university this led me to get a job I was a massage therapist believe it or not I worked with my hands and I worked that for 10 years professionally and it's a humbling thing to step from PhD to massage therapy until I realized that I'm actually helping people and that's better but I got academically bored so I started fighting with people online as one does and then I encountered feminism and I saw that it was a problem but rather than just thinking wow this is mean this is kind of you know sort of man-hating this is really kind of messed up I thought why do they think this way so I started asking some of the feminists who would actually yell at me some questions where do you get these ideas and they would send me papers and I would read the papers and I was like whoa this is way more messed up than I thought but more importantly I said this is what's in the academic published literature which is what our society as a secular institution treats similarly to a Canon of Literature Like A Bible where this is what objective truth is supposed to be reflected through and this is just poison getting dripped into it so I attacked it I wrote a series of fake academic papers this is one of the coolest things so he you do this quickly James because we have not unlimited time but so you you basically punked the university by playing their making them live up to their own standards by writing a series of academic journals that were so insane that they actually thought they were awesome yeah so you guys have probably heard of The Babylon B I basically did The Babylon Vita Academia in 2018. give some examples am I allowed to say some of these examples in church let's see um so I apologize to the pastors and everybody in the world for the first one but it's the most famous one so I'm going to mention it we actually wrote a paper that said that we could determine what's going on with rape culture so that's that feminism again if we were to examine canine rape culture dog parks so we would go and examine how dogs dog each other that they thought this was brilliant oh they thought this was the best thing in the world they won an award for excellence in scholarship in the leading journal in the field and the conclusion was that we can beat rape culture in society by training men the way we train dogs like out of obedience manuals and but the peer review was like this is brilliant this is amazing like professors were loving what he was publishing that's right yeah it wasn't that paper they loved that paper another paper got called an important contribution to knowledge which is my favorite sentence in English I hope that was a that I don't know if I can talk about that one at church but that was a paper that said that the reason that men are uh transphobic is because they don't practice putting things in their um number two and so if they practiced then they would be less transphobic and that was called an important contribution to knowledge by an academic journal in good standing by a college professor uh reviewing the paper I just have to interject what James is doing is going after those false gods as it says in the Old Testament and just crashing them and mocking them that is such a blessing because James they take themselves so seriously and eventually you got exposed with this but how many did you get published so the the publication process just to be really clear because this is a little confusing the publication process in Academia is really slow it can take over a year from when when they accept the paper until it gets published so we actually had seven of our papers accepted and we had seven more that were still under review but four had actually been published out into the world and that's how we got caught and so the Wall Street Journal started thinking that that dog paper probably wasn't legit started asking some questions so a journalist at the Wall Street Journal figured out what zero academics could figure out that that paper had to be not real and so then you wrote a book cynical theories right with Helen pluck Rose and then our paths crossed during floydapalooza where the the national religion became CRT for a short period of time and I came across James Lindsay he came on my podcast and I was blown away I was like holy moly this guy has read all their literature he knows their stuff he knows their trap doors he knows they're one-liners he knows their next move I was like no one in the church knows this very few people on the right know this especially from an academic approach and then James Affair to say you basically made it your mission in life to crush modern Marxism yeah I literally you talk about courage and obedience I went to my wife and I said hey honey I think this is going to unravel Western Civilization she's like all right uh you okay and I was like can I quit my job and dedicate every moment of my my Waking Life to reading this studying this exposing this talking about this so that hopefully we can stop it before it gets too late and she is a woman so she said can you make money doing that and I said I don't know and she said you have 18 months and I said okay but she's a woman so that means I see because I do know what a woman is a woman is somebody who says you have 18 months to figure out how to make money and she means 15. is what she really means like Jordan Peterson Jordan Peterson said if you don't know what a woman is marry one and find out and that's right that's the gospel of Jordan and so we got it we got the plane off the ground though and so since I guess that would have been 2018 I made that ask of my wife I've been doing nothing I was reading another one of their stupid books on the plane here yesterday it's I don't stop I I'm always reading their stuff find out how they think what the next moves are so James bring us into the mindset what what series of things did you read where you had that shift you said I've quit my job but what did you see what was the threat The Harbinger the canary and the coal mine to the people that might not believe the threat what did you see that you said this is going to destroy Western Civilization well I mean I've been reading the whole Canon and I already saw that this was so there's a very famous paper from 1989 but this isn't the thing by this woman named Kelly Oliver and she said that it doesn't matter whether we're gonna we've come to a point now where we don't have to worry about whether our theories are true or false it just matters whether they're strategic and I thought well that's really bad and what really changed me though is I wrote one of these papers one of the fake academic articles it was about education and we said what you have to do is take the privileged kids find out who they are with these little tests then when you figure out who the privileged kids are you abuse them out of their privilege but we're going to do it with compassion because it's supposed to be funny and the peer review so some Professor from very highly established Journal uh this is hypatia for anybody who cares to look this up it's a very famous very established Journal a very high ranking and respected journal and feminist philosophy wrote back and said well we love the idea of this abusing the kids out of their privilege and the white fragility that you used but you can't use compassion because it may re-center the needs of the privileged students and thus multiply the problem and I thought this ends in genocide if you are going to use abuse to overcome a character defect and compassion is not allowed to be directed toward the people in case it makes them the center of attention again this ends nowhere but somewhere very bad so I sat at that I said it was a seed of a genocide God I got criticized for that and I thought for about two or three weeks then I thought I have to I have to do this I have to and I went to my wife and I already told you that part of the story and so it was something the peer reviewers said to me that made me do this and James you kind of got known as the critical race Theory guy and then you got into the trans thing and then the queer Theory thing so many different dimensions for us to unpack here but if you were to describe critical race Theory as succinctly as possible how would you do that well I wrote a book called race Marxism that you just talked about in the first sentence I wrote a preface but after that the first sentence of the first chapter is critical race Theory noun like it's a dictionary calling everything you want to control racist until you control it and that is the definition of critical race theory if I want to control this church I call it racist until I'm on the board if I want to control a university I call it racist until I'm the university Provost a military if I want to control the military if I want to control you I call you racist until I control you and if you give in and say well yeah okay maybe I messed up I recognize my crimes from the perspective of CRT and I apologize and I promise to do better they've got you they're controlling you they have controlled you and you've already forfeited that portion of your soul to them queer Theory queer theory is the exact same thing it is calling everything homophobic or transphobic until you control it that's all this comes down to over and over and over again queer theory is actually a little more subtle it is a war an all-out war on the idea of the normal that anything can be considered within bounds as normal behavior and other things can be considered out of bounds as deviant or perverse or abnormal behaviors that include pedophilia that definitely includes pedophilia absolutely includes pedophilia that if we stigmatize that well that means that somebody gets to say hi Charlie I'm normal and I think that's bad therefore I'm just exerting my power as somebody who declared myself normal to be able to keep the pedophiles out of positions of authority and acceptance and celebration and where do drag queens come into this drag queens are like the priests doing a baptism or an initiation so one of the key ideas of queer theory is that there are these weird binaries you know masculine feminine gay straight you have that idea but one of the key binaries that they focus on is what's called innocence like childhood innocence innocence versus initiation and so drag queens in a paper they wrote themselves called drag pedagogy about what they do are meant to be a preparatory this is their words I'm quoting from memory a preparatory introduction to alternate modes of kinship and living queerly so sometimes I get in trouble because I said that okay groomer thing I got kicked off Twitter for okay groomer for a number of months until Elon brought me back and the left was very upset about that when I came back so I get these interviews I did this interview with a BBC reporter one time I'm on the zoom with him or whatever and he says well don't you think that the word groomer is a little bit inappropriate and I was like let me read to you from this paper and I read the Preparatory introduction to alternate modes of kinship and living clearly and I said I'm fine I accept whatever you say what you say tell me a better word for that than groomer and he said well yes but don't you think it's still dangerous to point it out and I was like no it's dangerous to not point it out and they did cut that out of the interview [Applause] so we have queer Theory we have the groomer stuff we have the critical race theory is it fair to say that children are being intentionally targeted for let's just say sexually perverse means to strip them their innocence away and destroy the American family that's 100 accurate it's also to strip them of being able to to find Solace or or or hope or uh ground under their feet in their faith if you get people worked up especially children worked up in their sexuality they're not going to be mentally well we've talked about before early childhood development knows that children separate the world into some pretty tight if anybody who has kids knows it's pretty serious with the distinctions it turns out the distinctions that children draw out are adult versus child and male versus female and these are their first ideas of identity I'm a boy you're a you're a man you're a woman they know those four categories and they're really strict about it if you ever talk to a kid they get a little weird about it in fact but the what that's natural and important because they're learning to build an identity queer Theory confuses that and it gets them lost as to who they are so that they have to defer to say an expert or a teacher or a trusted adult in order to figure out basic questions like what is a woman we all laughed when the contingency Brown Jackson the Supreme Court Justice couldn't answer what is a woman on the spot in front of Marshall Blackburn Senator Blackburn we all laughed but the point was what kentas Jackson said is I can't answer the question for myself I have to ask a guru I have to ask some wizard who can tell me when because if I if Charlie right now stood up here and said for the remainder of the evening I identify as a woman Media Matters is going to write an article before we get off the stage explaining why Charlie Kirk wasn't really doing it in good faith so it didn't count they know when it counts and they wouldn't know when it doesn't count so we have to ask a guru who's going to tell us well you do this to Children you get them worked up in their identity they're forming their identity it's all confused well I can be a boy today a girl tomorrow I don't know who I like and it's okay to do whatever I want and I have a special relationship with my trusted adult and they tell me to keep secrets from my parents what's a good word for that groomer uh what they're going to do is they're going to come home and when you say I don't think this is good the school's already taught them and the media have already taught them well your parents are going to reject you so your parents are not the trusted adult the school is going to protect you from that they separate you there and then they say well we're going to take you to church and get you straightened out and get you in a good healthy Community or something like this and they say well the Bible's outdated the Bible's patriarchal the Bible's homophobic the Bible blah blah blah and then you've separated them from family you've separated them from faith and you've confused their mind so they don't know who they are and have to ask a trusted adult to know who they are pretty good and it's all set up by screwing around with their skin color first so that they feel like that's the way they can have a positive sense of self you tell them that they're awful for their skin color using critical race Theory and if they try to be an activist or an ally or whatever it's not good enough they're doing it to satisfy themselves or doing it to escape more criticism but if they adopt a gender or sexual identity outside of the norm all of a sudden they get celebrated they get held up on a pedestal nobody can question it whatever they say they are in this hour or this week or this day is what they are and they find a sense of positive self-worth we just ask that the TP USA chapter leadership we you asked there's a room of 700 college and high school top leaders top leaders and you said how many of you go to a campus where you feel like the social environment makes it cool for you to be homosexual almost every every hand goes up that it's not just okay there's an incentive structure you get extra points rewards and privileges if you're gay or trans and if you're great you get punished or treated differently that's right so why would they want that why do they want a gay country James well they don't they don't want a gay country Charlie they want to destabilized Country because stability prevents revolutions so what they want is they want children who don't know who they are but know that they need to be radical and fight against the society this just doesn't make sense and has been cheating them and people like them all along in other words just like when Mao Zedong radicalized the youth and created a red guard to go tear down old Society they want to create a rainbow guard who's all hopped up in these sexual identities and tend them out to to tear down Society but they also want them to not have any Landing Pad they want them not to be able to go to their parents not to be able to go to their their families not be able to go to their church not be able to go to actual you know stable places that they might have in their lives with actual genuine authorities who love and care for them to be able to find themselves what they need is a population a generation of completely broken and destabilized people who are ready to flip over Society because they feel like they've been cheated Marxism always tries to destroy three things if they do these three things they get in power family religion property you can describe that in 10 seconds or less to every one of your family or friends you can make a bumper sticker Marxism Must Destroy family religion property family religion property those three things they could do that they're in charge James some people in this audience might be saying all right James you're over exaggerating this is not happening in Scottsdale this has not happened by the way it's happening at Scottsdale Unified School District they are grooming your kids they're coming after them and they're turning them gay and Trans in a way that you might not believe but some people I hear oh my church you know my school is wonderful unless it's Dream City Christian Turning Point Academy I roll my eyes um James is it widespread is this is this just like on the edges or how widespread is this exactly um this is to use one of their favorite words they have made this systemic it is virtually everywhere it doesn't matter how allegedly red your state is this is virtually everywhere and Arizona unfortunately is one of these kind of purple looking States it's very red though but it's weirdly purple so it is most definitely here in Arizona uh I'm I'm speaking next in a couple of days into your neighbor to the North in Utah actually in Salt Lake City which they affectionately sometimes now refer to as a San Francis of the desert it is most definitely all through that that's supposedly very conservative Mormon country it's all through that uh the fakest red state in the country is Utah um it's in my state of Tennessee for absolute certain it's in Texas all over the place they're provoking in Texas I do a lot in Idaho it's there's one of the reddest Oliver Idaho it's all over Idaho so James if there was a devil I believe there is a devil would he make would he make queer Theory I mean yes that's exactly the thing you would want to you you'd want to make you would want to lure people into initiation that separates them from their family that separates them from their faith it confuses them about who they are that makes it impossible for them to discern the truth for themselves to understand objective truth without deferring to you know some evil priest or something the these gurus or Wizards or whatever we want to call them gender studies professors that's exactly what you would do and then at the same time I mean from a Biblical perspective you're inviting them into sin after sin after sin after sin well and so James I want to zero in on this why is the church in your estimation you're a guest speaker at churches why is the church so unbelievably cowardly and largely silent on these issues I mean everybody wants to get along and go along and be nice and um frankly it's been a little while since people have been really drilling down as far as I can tell into the truth is in this huge movement for the last 10 years looking from the outside of I mean it's changed in the last couple of years thanks to you and and the pastors that you've been working with and some others out there but there's just been this you know oh yeah that's great you know whatever whatever you're into yeah that's great then there is no like let's drill down to what's really true let's drill down to what it really says and nobody wants to offend anybody there's this kind of what is it uh perfectionism and winsomeness and all of this stuff that's kind of infected the church like like I don't get it Charlie I mean I get it I don't want to step up here and in a church and be all like let me interpret the gospel for you but I don't think that like nice was like Jesus's brand um he's flipping over tables this is one of my this is actually pertinent for like a an action item for people too it's not really I'm kind of wedging it in a little to be to be frank with you but in Matthew 10 14 Jesus very famously says if you go and you tell them the words I don't have the this word for word I apologize but if you go and you tell them your order they won't listen to you when you leave the house Shake the Dust off your feet it's a very famous passage in Matthew what's he saying well you go and you try to plead with somebody you try to get them to hear the truth and they don't want to hear it and you're like okay and you turn and go you don't plead with them you don't beg with them you don't bend the truth to try to get them to come in to come to the to come to your your house to your words or whatever it is to your church and this is relevant to what we were actually just saying because sorry because um when you what when you said would the devil make queer Theory I've been pretty well convinced over my couple of years now studying this is that the way that somebody sells their soul there are a number of ways but the primary way the easiest way that people sell their soul they don't come over here to the table and have a contract with like a guy it's all black with fire and you know a gold and Fiddle or whatever they they don't sign that way what they do is they tell a lie to fit in they tell a lie to fit in they give away a little bit of their soul I just want to be in a place where everybody feels like they belong so I'm going to not tell the truth to make more people feel like they're welcome here and that's selling a little bit of your soul now when an individual does that it's bad and there's a way to fix it it's called repentance and then you can come to forgiveness but when a church does it or no that's there's something just brutally bad about that nice it's nowhere in the Bible the word does not exist it is a new age 1500s Latin word that means ignorant literally the etymology of nice meant stupid person they did not kill Jesus because he was nice they killed Jesus because he told the truth and he rose from the grave because he is truth and he is the Son of God and so Charlie the truth isn't nice the truth is not nice now we must who's Loving in our presentation but you cannot have love without truth yeah otherwise it's lies which is exactly the truth is not nice though you have to I mean it says fear God you have to fear the truth in exactly the same way if I became convinced of a delusion right now that I could climb up here on the balcony and jump off and everything's gonna be totally okay like nothing bad is going to happen and I firmly believe that reality the truth is going to correct me when I hit the ground the truth is not going to be nice to me and Charlie's saying yeah your jacket works just like wings you'll be great James going up he's not loving me in that moment he's like James brother you're not okay something happened I don't know maybe the the bubbly water you drank was spiked or something we got to get you to a hospital we got to figure out what's going on that is what truth looks like and that's what actually loving and caring for the American Church says oh I don't want to judge Happy Jump that's the American church because they don't want to be deemed unloving when their flock is about to jump off the balcony they're afraid that they're going to offend them before they commit suicide that's the American church so James distinctions let's talk about this then we'll do some questions yeah you and I really harmonize on this distinctions are what keep us free distinctions what make sense of an otherwise very confusing word world uh the distinction set up in Genesis 1 through 11 man and woman good and evil holy profane God and nature Griffon this a little bit well I mean yeah I was reading Genesis while you were talking to the group upstairs a little bit by the way and I noticed the Genesis 1 1 already has a distinction in it God created the heavens and the Earth which means they're not the same thing you're already distinguishing Heavens from Earth those are two different things and he separates the waters on the second day and then he's creating light and dark morning and evening they're not the same we have man and woman they're not the same now when you start to confuse distinctions which is what the left modus operandi is it is to confuse distinctions it is in fact rooted in an ancient heretical evil religion that's called hermeticism we don't have to get into the details of that but the the general thrust of that religion which is Marxism woke all this are just today's manifestations of that heresy they believe that the true God is completely unified and perfectly unified with no distinctions no uh no separation of anything we are all one this kind of mentality and the idea is that all the distinctions in the world are actually illusions that were put forth by people who don't want us to understand the full truth or don't have the full truth so we have to transcend the distinctions the Marxist word for this in German is alphaben and the translation of that in Marxist English is sublation we're going to go to a higher level and understand that the distinctions are actually not real so man and woman are not truly different from one another why are they not truly different from one another well there's sometimes a man can be a woman and sometimes a woman can be a man and we've got to have a gender studies expert to tell us when it's real and when it's not in other words we've got to have a special priest who has magic powers who can tell us reality for for us good and evil well simple right and wrong simple those are relative now they're not and enable it's it's very it's the exact same story again and again so what what you have in the Bible and what you have in reality are distinctions wisdom is actually very clearly understanding distinctions the Bible is a great guide to understand it starts off with this huge amount of here are some really important very basic hey kids this is some basic distinction well and it's important everybody because every other belief system prior to the word of God prior to God's chosen people they believed a variety of different things that are exactly the same things that we're fighting right now what are those things such as Pagan river civilization type beliefs where you worship the Earth right where you worship the sun you worship nature the Bible says no no God spoke nature into existence that you don't worship it God is above nature how about this morality where do you find such morality the river civilization would say that the high priest would tell us what is right or the pharaoh who would tell us is right and wrong no no we no right or wrong because God tells us what is right and wrong through his revealed law and it wasn't that way immediately it started with Consciousness wasn't enough no way of Covenant was it enough and then endless amounts of rules and rules and rules and more rules and 600 and I think 13 rules and then eventually we get you know to to the New Covenant the Ten Commandments in particular though shall not shall not do not do not it's very clear that we're fighting our own broken nature but this is what's so incredibly important everybody is that if you read the Old Testament the first five books of of the Bible but especially Genesis 1 through 11 it is an all-out war on the woke and I'll prove it to you they want to worship the Earth and they use an excuse of climate change we're told to take dominion over the Earth what'd they just do they just said they're going to have to sacrifice 200 000 cows to the Earth God to stop climate change and was it Ireland or Scotland or whatever they believe human beings are an accident of darwinian evolution there's nothing unique we believe in Genesis 1 26 and 127 where God said let us make man in our image by the way [Applause] it uses the plural Elohim and that's the Trinity right there in the first book of Genesis it's a nice little nugget of uh biblical trivia for you how about the distinction between holy and profane this is really where the Book of Leviticus I think the best lesson can be told that there must be distinctions between things that we deem holy think about how many things in society that used to be holy that aren't the American flag being one of them used to be where you wouldn't even dare think about burning a flag putting it on the ground now you can just see it kind of cast aside the new holy object is the trans flag and you can't profane that you what would happen if you profane the trans flag James you go to jail you you in some countries you will crime hate crime every society needs something holy and the holy and the ethical are directly tied together and I'll prove it to you Leviticus has all these rules you're like goodness what the priests wear and what you eat and shellfish and then boom out of nowhere Leviticus 19 love your neighbor as yourself how many Christians know that when Jesus said all the laws of the Prophet hang upon these two things love your God with all your soul strength and mind and love your neighbors yourself because the holy and the ethical are directly related if you do not have the Holy you cannot have the ethical the Hebrew word for Holy is separate different protected if you don't have distinctions by definition you cannot have rules for life James final thoughts well I mean they call themselves Progressive but what they are is transgressive and that's exactly what they're transgressive of they are trying to elevate the profane and what the way that they do that is by trying to inject some they call this progress but what they're doing is injecting some profanity into that which is holy over and over and over again this is called transgression it is not called progression and that is actually one of the chief deceptions and I say that with a capital d uh that they possibly could could voice on Humanity then they follow that up if you you ask me what would happen if you were to profane the trans flag they come at you and call you a transphobe and did you committed a hate crime in other words they are capital A accusers so you have deceivers who become accusers the second you call out their lies for what they are and so again I Circle back to the big Point Charlie you asked me would the devil create these things I don't know given what I know about what's said about the devil what else would be created this is the usurping of worldly Authority rather than true Authority in order to distract and distort people and pull them into perversion and pull them away from the truth and to pull them away from repentance and pull them away from the holy what else would the devil make there's no better definition Genesis job Matthew Revelation what we do what do we know about Satan he's a Deceiver and Satan means literally prosecutor in the Hebrew and what does it say in Revelation he led a rebellion against the Lord a in fact the original Greek is usurpation James a usurper he's unsuccessful Paul calls Satan the God of this world Jesus called him the prince of this world we are on enemy occupied territory if you were Satan you would launch queer Theory and critical race Theory and go after children if the church doesn't stand boldly for this the church is good for nothing everybody this is a spiritual war in front of us let's do some questions and keep this going so let's start lining up and James while we line up for questions here uh and please uh let's keep the questions around these topics if we can um James how can people support you books podcast all that stuff I have a website that is newdistcourses.com I put out lots of podcast articles all the books are listed there you can find it all there new discourses.com there's a support button if you care to do that I'm not asking for it uh you're more than welcome though you can go there newdiscourses.com everything else is is easy to find from there okay let's get let's dive in we have a limited time we went to as many questions as possible we'll start here we'll get going g'day Charlie and James I traveled all the way from Australia last year for the elections to knock on doors and the heath and stand for six hours outside of a polling booth and whilst I was here I got to leave Charlie a soft toy koala for your daughter who was newborn at the time I hope you got it if you didn't yes staffer got some explaining to do but my question is God doesn't make mistakes so why do we have Katie Hobbs and Joe Biden okay great great question um God doesn't make mistakes but we certainly do as human beings so God loves us so much that he gives us the freedom to say no to him otherwise that's not love with that being said I also believe that um remember we're an enemy occupied territory that Satan is the prince of this world Prince of the air why do we have these treacherous fools occupying honestly I could go through the elections and all this it's because the church has not played its role if the church was active we would not have these people in government positions it's just the way it is 30 to 40 million Evangelical Christians did not vote in the 2022 midterms they did not care to vote and the numbers show it it's irrefutable so the Christian church does not care enough to save the civilization I'll made one other thing how do we act when we get a miracle this is why oh boy I just love the Bible it's so beautiful because I'm sure many of you say okay if I saw God split the Red Sea I would be a believer okay that's all I God send me a sign okay come on notice that no look at look at the Old Testament how many miracles did God have to perform and like two days later this God and I'll prove it to you how many Christians even acknowledged the irrefutable miracle that within a couple years we were able to overturn Roe versus Wade that is a modern Miracle period the fact that you have a guy go down a golden escalator that's never run before say some very colorful things and still win a surprise election to give you three justices you know 99 of American churches did not even mention that Roe versus Wade was repealed let alone say thank you so God does not make mistakes but I'll be honest America is in a state of rebellion against God thank you so much we'll get to the next one actually if I might Charlie uh pull back to that numbers 14 thing I saw at church like last week or whatever um the the truth is that you know the story there is that God's given 10 signs 10 is this you know symbolic number maybe there were more or whatever but 10 signs that we're supposed to be unambiguous and what you have is a bunch of people who didn't believe the signs I can tell you right now not to compare myself to anybody in these stories but I can tell you right now having spoken up about this issue for a very long time it's been very difficult to convince people that things that are happening are actually happening I I told people in early 2020 February 2020 that worked for the the Pentagon I said there's a cultural revolution like China had coming using critical race Theory within the next six to six to 12 months and they were like no that's not possible and of course it kicked off three months later in May and so I think that it's actually very important for us to realize how much more visible a lot of these things are and how many more people are going to be activated when the hard part starts which is still coming because we have these examples so clearly in front of our face and I think it's very important pulling back to the the lesson the pr the pastor at the church that preached about numbers 14. it's very important to understand that we have to realize if we're especially if you guys are believers you have to realize that all of those signs weren't given just to kind of like show off he wasn't doing fireworks it was the point was you should have been able to trust me before I've proven myself you should be able to trust me now and that's where Deliverance is going to come from on the other side so you've got to be able to trust that this is a eye-opening experience and we have to take advantage of these high crimes and treasons that we're seeing happen all around us so that we can awaken our fellow people to say no so that we don't get tricked say like we did when they told us there'd just be two weeks to flatten the curve and we all were like oh yeah two weeks okay that sounds great okay yeah two weeks next question hi James I want to thank you for reaching out to moms and befriending moms I run the Twitter account for Arizona women of action and I thank you so much when you amplify my messaging one of the most serious things coming to education is Community Schools as you've talked about many times we have a good conservative superintendent of Public Instruction how do we get the message across about how serious that is I mean so as somebody who's gone around the country over and over and over again and uh tried to get people to understand important messages what I've learned is that there is if you keep saying it people start hearing it especially as it becomes more visible kind of even reflecting back off the last question so the way that you're going to practically speaking the way that you're going to get the message is that you don't quit you keep saying it you keep sharpening your message you keep paying attention getting the feedback what works and what doesn't what's reaching people what's what's making people ask questions uh and you have to keep putting the information out you have to keep doing everything that you can I'm happy to continue to amplify what you're doing I think it's great so thank you for that I think in I don't want to get lost in the topic of Community Schools but I think that what we have to start doing is a broader bigger picture topic and it doesn't matter whether you're invested in this education fight or whether you're not in the invested in the education fight what we have to start doing is anytime you hear some word that sounds like it came off of a government sheet like Community Schools maybe it's time to start asking questions and it's time for you to start telling your neighbor hey that term sounded awfully like it came off of a un watch list or something maybe we should ask what that word really means let's dig into it let's stop taking their terms at face value oh Community School it's about the community it's good no dig deeper and just keep pushing that theme dig deeper dig deeper dig deeper and I think that it cracks through you just have to keep going the truth will win next question Dr Lindsay thank you so much for coming I first heard about your name and because my professor at Colorado Christian recommended two of your books and next semester we get to read cynical theories for literary criticism and so I really look forward to that but my question for you has to do with maoism would you elaborate on your view of maoism in America and maybe offer some resources books or podcasts for people who want to write on it further yeah I mean so what's happening in this country right now is a maoist style cultural revolution if you don't understand that then you probably need to start studying the history this isn't a hard thing believe it or not I'm not usually a big promoter of something like Wikipedia but you can actually start there and look up Mao's Cultural Revolution and learn the history there are going to be resources and the verbal I already are some resources coming through Turning Point Charlie and I've been talking about we were thinking about something around the term American maoism because I think it's perfect we overplay the Nazi references and the USSR references and we underplay The Mao it is way more maoist than it is anything else right so earlier when I was referring to the idea of creating a rainbow guard by using critical race Theory to pressure identity categories into adopting a particular revolutionary identity category in the trans or the gender minorities or sexual minorities whatever uh that was a maoist tactic for example malused identity politics and identity politics push was maoism he created red classes for communism the revolutionaries and black classes he bullied the people who were in Black classes sometimes very viciously he had the youth be the Rebellion that did it and all you had to do was sign up to be a revolutionary and start going through thought reform or brainwashing and then you could be in the red class and get treated marginally better or even a lot better if you ended up joining the party that's a maoist tactic another maoist tactic that should feel very familiar he stated a formula he used to consolidate power in the CCP before he took power in 1950 or 1949 he used this formula and he used it again and again and again throughout the 1950s and he used it again and again in the cultural revolution which is called Unity criticism Unity so we're gonna he said create the desire for Unity followed by teaching people right from wrong through criticism and struggle followed by you a new Unity on a new basis and the new basis was socialist discipline that you'd have to accept upon yourself and then you could have freedom well we call it we just want to make a church where everybody feels like they belong and that's desire for Unity but we can't have Unity because there are some racists and transphobes here who make it feel like somebody can't belong so we've got to go ahead and criticize racism systemic racism transphobia homophobia we've got to all do it from our critical perspective so that we can understand that blah blah blah and we're going to struggle session anybody a pastor a member of the church or whatever who doesn't get on board until they adopt the new basis of understanding racism according to CRT understanding transphobia according to queer Theory and so on and then we can have a new unity in the church on a new basis and if you remember when Mr Biden took office I almost said got elected when Mr Biden took office the first thing he pushed was now we're going to have Unity we're going to have unity and conservatives you didn't know you won a giant war against that Administration that day said according to who kind of as a nation and we rejected the idea that after all this pandemic of the unvaccinated stuff all this division all this things that he did that they're admitted that the Democrats had been doing and that they had been doing for so many months before when we rejected that and said we're not going to accept your basis for Unity as the unity for the country we beat that and they never talk about Unity anymore at all because we beat that initiative and that was maoism that we beat a huge malice initiative and the parallels are are overwhelming I encourage you to look it up I encourage you also to listen to a friend of mine named she van Fleet oh she's amazing she is spelled x i van Fleet is spelled the way you think it is she's incredible she's incredible she's got Talks on YouTube she does things she has an amazing historical Twitter account uh you can go find her very easily she van Fleet and look up some of her talks where she does the pair parallels it will open your eyes in a way that will just completely blow your mind you've got to check her out yeah and just to add on a little bit it's also ongoing because the maoist regime actually has not lost power it's the same philosophy a little bit more gangster than it was back then less ideological more gangster would you agree yeah that's right yeah I picked up also this fake Market they have going on from Deng Xiaoping they've got a whole plan for this like this program is is Mao's project and so it's ongoing social credit system mercantilism it's ongoing and I would encourage you I'm going to post this on charliekirk.com you can actually find it currently on dennisprager.com and a very hard to get biography of Mao that actually has been memory hold because it's so good it was written by someone who actually knew his family and you want to get a picture into someone who I believe is the closest thing to Lucifer Joseph Stalin and Mao are the Hitler are the three most evil people of the 20th century and they're as close to like manifestation of unclean spirit that I think you'll ever see I'll stop there but um I'll just add quickly to really encourage you to look up she because she lived through the cultural revolution she was classified as black class in the cultural revolution her family had too much money uh which was very little and so she was she was bullied as black class in in the cultural revolution so she lived through it came to this country in the 1980s loves this country uh is trying to save this kind countries putting it all on the line for this country so she has lived experience of maoism and it believe it or not the left doesn't care about her lived experience because only theirs counts all right here we go hello my name is Rebecca Jensen um and as a 13 year old what can I do to help my country as a 13 year old by the way she's homeschooled she does a great job classical conversations right you do a great job so James I mean I could say get involved with Turning Point USA obviously but James this is an interesting thing we actually need people younger and younger to start to care and fight yeah yeah well what you have to understand since we just talked about Mao is that Mao used people your age to overthrow society and people your age are extremely sensitive for reasons that are mostly pretty good to their social environment and so creating a social environment where everybody's just kind of trending into the left Progressive view has been something they've been very successful at using the schools using entertainment using just uh social media and all of this kind of bullying we talked you know Charlie mentioned earlier that there's a new study showing that cons that young men are trending more and more conservative but the same study actually showed that young women are still trending more and more left well it's very important for people in your age group to become somebody who stands out from that crowd which is very hard at your age it's very hard to stand up to to your friends and say you know what this isn't good this isn't true this isn't right this is actually dangerous and so what we need are people in that Social Circle it's one thing for an old dude like me to sit up here on this stage an old dude like Charlie that's on the stage and rant down at the at the kids they won't listen the same way as if it's their friends so people your age getting getting together and saying you know what no we're gonna we're gonna do right and wrong we're gonna do good and evil we're going to do true and false and we're going I care about those things there's going to be a huge difference in putting the brakes on the strongest wedge that they have to take away our society and in the immediate get as many of your friends to come to America Fest in December tickets are now available it's amfest.com it will be the most extraordinary speakers ever and we're going to partner at Dream City on some stuff we're going to be promoting it get your early bird tickets Luke is going to speak there we're going to do also we have worship night we're gonna do all sorts of fun stuff it's a great opportunity to celebrate the country James speaks speaks every year it's amfest.com if you have no idea what I'm talking about it's right near Christmas I think it's after all of your Christmas services Joe right and it is very important uh Phoenix Convention Center the dates I'm gonna mess up amfest.com get as many of your colleagues to come okay and uh you already have your tickets and yes students basically always get in free um it's you guys that have to pay so yes next question my man from Dream City Christian at Turning Point Academy hey Charlie I was just wondering what would you say to someone who feels mixed up inside and wondering what gender am I and what am I yes so that that is not your job so your job is to be a friend to that person and to love on that person uh an adult needs to step in and correct the error very quickly hopefully a parent or an actual trusted adult let me let me Point more broadly to all of you there is a unbelievably great book out right now by Dr Miriam Grossman can't remember the name of it it's trans something but I know the author she was on my podcast translation or something I think it's like Lost in Translation that's exactly the same transmission and I hope all of you are able to really understand the gravity of how basically the entire pediatric industry has been captured by this trans ideology it is now trained pediatricians are now trained to ask kids when their parents are out of the room do you feel as if you're a different gender they are trained they are actively seeking out new Trans patients there are hundreds of chemical castration and medieval butchering clinics now across the country here's what I and I know this is different than your question but it's an important thing I got an I got in a pretty heated argument with somebody who said Charlie I'm sick of hearing about the trans stuff you got to stop talking about it it's going to go away it's becoming less popular and I said well I'll do respect you're a I I mean that it is an industry that now pharmaceutical companies are making billions of dollars on this is not some fad this is now a profit model for the most gross people in America Pfizer is going to make billions of dollars on kids in this state and so adults need to step in the way that we used to handle what's called gender dysphoria is through a clinically proven thing called watchful waiting which is in almost every case kid who's 11 years old almost every single time has some sort of parent trauma was molested father left them or something okay has some it's really misdiagnosed puberty anxiety is what transgenderism is it's like young ladies that might be going through a lot of body changes very quickly and they are not socially accepted the way we want to they see a tick tock video I think I'm a man a pediatrician is now no longer allowed to say no you're not they will lose their license in Washington they will lose their license in Illinois they will lose their license in New York instead of saying no no let's have a conversation let's slow down there are required by law to refer refer them to a gender-affirming clinic which will give them irreversible pharmacological agents that will slow down their puberty and castrate them so what are you supposed to do you're supposed to love on those people and be a friend to them but also say hey it's ma