Charlie Kirk and Pastor Rob McCoy on Biblical Foundations of Politics, Trans Ideology, and America's Role in Global Conflicts

[Music] good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to Freedom night in America [Applause] [Music] this is the freest place on the west coast at this moment right now yeah hey we were saving some spots just taking care of a few uh details we have these spots now if anybody wants to move up and get a little more front row seat please don't trample anybody to death but come on up and we're going to take care of this before we get this event going right on there we go little moving get the red meat eaters up here on the first row way to go for those who went down on the corner of Reno and borchard they heard you were coming and out and Tifa never even showed up right I heard there were a couple of people right out here but uh you know when we do these things you guys God in his grace just has his hand on us and so we're we're unafraid the righteous are as bold as a lion but the Wicked Flea when no one pursues them all right now settle down all right let's open with the word prayer father thank you so much for your goodness thank you for this Freedom that we still have in our nation to have an event like this with the god without the Gestapo coming in and arresting us Lord we pray that you would fill our hearts with your love and your courage to be voices of Truth in these dark times so Lord we it's not just a phrase Freedom night in America Lord we truly know Lord Jesus you have set us free and the truth sets us free and so we pray as Charlie and Rob share with us tonight Lord we just pray that there would be illumination by your spirit there would be Insight that there would be blessing on this time and we ask it in Jesus name amen hey uh there's a book out there for any donation that Charlie's just come out with it's called the college scam you can stop by the table out there for any donation be generous let's keep the work going also um there's an incredible work that's going on here at the church if you haven't tapped into the Guardian newspaper Amy Chen came to Pastor Rob some time ago a few years ago and said hey we need a conservative voice and so we're gonna put a this QR code if you want to help them out I mean even if you gave 10 bucks a month that gets uh I mean 25 people are going to get newspapers but the left so hates this newspaper they're going around and stealing them out of driveways or wherever when they get delivered because the the lies can't handle the truth they just can't handle the truth so it's a it's a beautiful thing and and there's been investigations in various things so you know you're over the target but we'd love to expand this right now there's 46 000 um issues that are going out and we would like to expand that work we're still thinking let's just give a round of applause to all those who are folding those papers the editing staff Amy Chen Amy are you here Amy Amy stand up Amy's the rock star that made this happen right here all right I don't know if you made your way into the room with a small child or not but if they begin to fuss could you step out so we can have a peaceful meeting also uh please double check your phone right now and put it on silent because we're gonna have a special time for the next uh hour plus and we really want to have a focus on that well as you take care of that no further Ado these two don't need much of an introduction we're at godspeak but please welcome your own Pastor Rob McCoy and Charlie Kirk [Applause] thank you everybody I wanted to uh also add in regards to what Pastor Rick was sharing about the guardian first of all I want to welcome now this is a for-profit newspaper but to their credit they show up they come to the sanctuary they get the story and the Ventura County Stars here Tom kisskin and the photographer and I just want to say thank you for coming God bless you guys you can clap please uh a local newspaper that doesn't show up or come to our place they're upset they think that we run the Guardian newspaper we don't this is independently operated and we have the chance to know Amy I'm blessed by her and when they get advertisers they they have a concerted effort to go after the advertisers of the of the guardian and attack them so we're just gonna if you want to advertise in Your brave great there's some that don't mind it but we're going to make it a self-supporting paper meaning you just 10 bucks a month use that QR code we'll have a newspaper that isn't beholden to profit but truth amen [Applause] I want to say thank you to all the folks that showed up we heard that antifa was coming and they they didn't because they were sworn by all of you and I just am so blessed by you so congratulations it was um it was it was your welcome it was bizarre I love these signs and I saw some driving down the street I'm not used to that usually it's the opposite and it was amazing I just want to say there are so many friends here and Rob you do such an amazing job and you should be really thanked for your courage and for your stance Rob truly uh and the whole staff here Pastor Rick at godspeak I see the bondarenkos here I see Pastor James and Pastor Greg and Doug and so many friends here uh it's like coming home and I make a point to come here at least once a year it's a crazy schedule but you really have been so generous and supportive of Turning Point USA uh of our podcast of our program and you guys know we've been in the trenches the last year we're going to update you on that of The Good the Bad and the Ugly but understand the impact of this church the prayers the ties the offerings the energy the enthusiasm it is exported all across the country and it's making a very serious and significant difference so thank you and God bless you guys Charlie you brought up the bondarenkos and in the audience and and I I never want to miss the opportunity to acknowledge Joseph bondarenko he spent 10 years in a Soviet Gulag 23 hours a day in solitary confinement for being a preacher during this the Soviet era um and and and from the Ukraine and in the bondarenko family um it everyone is confused about the Ukraine and we're spending we're sending billions of dollars to the Ukraine uh Germany Senate I mean what's going on there do you have any insight on that I got a couple of thoughts uh I just I'm just I'm here to tee it up tonight so yeah I mean my opinions are actually rather heterodox on this however whenever I say this I get the warmest emails from ukrainians telling me that I'm actually right over the target it's really weird actually that you would think would be the opposite look I make it very clear from the outset Putin should not have invaded Ukraine it's wrong to invade a smaller weaker country Sovereign Nation but zielinski is not a good person and we should we should say that out loud and and if if you don't believe me talk to the people that are actually serving on the front lines there and so two things can be simultaneously true I I am someone who when my earliest childhood memories was 9 11 we were all repulsed by that and I think all of us were also very disturbed at the money the time the treasure and the lives that were lost not really a clear goal that came out of the Quagmire in the Middle East I'm not a fan of endless Wars I think great countries stop being great when they get involved in Endless Wars history tells us that very clearly repeatedly and while all those things being very clear I I have a I have a series of very short simple questions that the American ruling class dodged at every single Senators that come on my show I just ask I say what does success look like what are you willing to do to get to that line of success and will you ever be willing to disengage if all of a sudden the stakes get too high or you get too close to failure those three questions are what adults ask before you do anything meaningful by a piece of property get married buy a car anything we have not asked that question and got an answer on any of those okay so right now what does success look like you get answers all across the board and usually you get platitudes from our leaders they say well the success is to support the Ukrainian people I agree I mean they're worthy of success as a support but what does success look like so Lindsey Graham says success is driving Russians completely out of Ukraine that's really stupid let me be very clear that's not going to happen eastern Ukraine wants to be part of Russia they speak Russia they're ethnically Russian they want to be part of Russia you might not like that Washington DC might not like that they've repeatedly said they'd much rather be under the Russian Federation than under zielinski but Washington DC says no no we know better than you okay then what are you willing to do to spend we've spent a hundred billion dollars so far 100 billion dollars in fact we're now sending the most sophisticated Weaponry we are Germany says that we are in an all-out hot war with with Russia that's a NATO member telling you that your son or daughter might have to be drafted sometime soon that that's what it is you read article 6 in NATO a NATO member says we're in a current war that means one is attacked we're all attacked I don't know about you but I'm not exactly enthusiastic about sending our best and our brightest and our youngest and our most with the highest potential into a hot war with a nuclear power a powered nation that should by the way be a soft Ally in the fight against the real threat the Chinese Communist party that is legitimately taking over the world and the the third the third point that I want to make will the American ruling class ever say hold on maybe this is not a good idea and no because if you know anything about how the American ruling class operates is that they operate with Hyper aggression never apologizing or admitting a failure ever and it's always your fault always your fault it's the middle Americans fault it's your fault that your jobs got shopped shipped overseas to China it's your fault that you didn't take the vaccine it's your it's always the American people's fault and so I take a step back and I don't trust the people in charge nor should you after the last couple years and I certainly don't trust the very same American foreign policy establishment that was unable to have success in Libya in Syria in Iraq in Afghanistan in every theater they engage in themselves and in fact I think they're getting us closer to a state of permanent conflict with again let me repeat this Putin is not a good person I don't think highly of him I think that he should be condemned for his actions but sometimes in geopolitics you have to be willing to have temporary Partnerships against the greater evil and the greater evil it's not a little bit it's by far the ccp's conquest of the western world and the modern world so while the CCP is dumping fentanyl into our schools spying on your kids by a tick tock dumping steel and solar panels involved in hyper sophisticated technological War we're worried about a 800-year family dispute over an arbitrary border 5000 miles away because Lindsey Graham tells us I'm sorry pal you've been wrong about every in the last 20 years I don't care the way you think I should in fact we should not send another dime we should just send humanitarian assistance and guess what when was the last time I'll close with this when was the last time you heard anybody say we're close to peace have you noticed that nobody on television says here's what it's going to take for peace in a mature and adult civilization when there's a hot war with very high stakes with NATO member countries shouldn't there be negotiations going on all the time no it seems as if our foreign policy establishment does not want peace they want war they want permanent war that can make the defense contractors a lot of money and continue in this Perpetual Quagmire and guess what they transitioned from one war to the other from Afghanistan into Ukraine and I don't know where all the anti-war voices on the left have gone they've seemed to have disappeared but I see very clear what they're trying to do they're trying to make us care more about the invasion of a foreign country which by the way final Point our own country is being invaded every single day [Applause] that's okay I was so into what you were talking about I forgot that I'm up here with you like I just have a better seat you know so Charlie we were we just had the privilege to be with some pastors especially some that stood um in defiance of the tyranny of Governor Mussolini uh there in L.A County we had some up in Ojai which you know that's no conservative Bastion up there and they came here tonight and traveled at distance for themselves and their their they're committed to to Liberty and they understand Liberty's not man's idea it's God's idea and we had that conversation back there and and Pastor James Cadiz and and and and Professor Greg and denim some of the insights were just profound and and you you shared about a commentary in Genesis can you share with the folks that because I I was back there captivated well listen to all you guys share sure thank you rob that's that's kind so I a couple thoughts the first uh I came across an author by the name of Tom Holland who's actually a secular writer but he's very fair and he just he makes an argument looking at history very honestly that what we consider to be common sense in the west is anything but common sense right so I could list off five things and someone in secular society would say oh yeah every society understands that for example not touching children or taking advantage of them giving money and charity to the poor natural rights the fact that the strong should protect the weak I could go through one after the other and the argument he makes is that in the west we're actually inheritors of a Christian inheritance that without a Biblical construct the world does not know these things as quote unquote common sense and it's how you don't need any more evidence than what you see happening in the underdeveloped world or in the Islamic world or in the hyper secular world if you do not have codes or Customs that are put in place it is almost the norm to take advantage of children look what happened in America right now where they're going after children with this incredibly Insidious transgender ideology with medical mutilation or the chemical castration of children the idea that children should be protect affected by adults is a uniquely Christian idea and no one really has the courage to say that out loud but going back even further what I said previously and understanding that it's if you want to know what the left is trying to achieve they're trying to obliterate many of the distinctions that are laid out in the first 11 books of Genesis so I'm having a great because I'm sorry verse 11 chapters of Genesis thank you um so I have the opportunity and you guys should do it too if you have too much free time on your hands like I do uh back in 1992 Dennis Prager who I adore uh taught the entire Torah it's 400 hours um it's well worth it it's way even deeper than his rational Bible I actually think it's easier to listen to and work through I can't recommend it highly enough um and I'm learning so much so I'm studying the Torah via him 30 years ago you know what's so amazing though this shows the Eternal promise of the scriptures what he's saying 30 years ago is just as applicable today as it was then because humans don't change and the truths are Eternal it does 300 years from now someone will be able to listen to this be like oh yeah of course of course of course and so one of the arguments that is very clear in the tour of the first five books of the Bible and the first 11 chapters of Genesis is distinctions so if there's just one way you want to describe why the Bible is different than any other religious book it's that it's very clear about distinctions and maintaining those distinctions so a distinction for example is the distinction between God and man that we are not God and there is a God pretty simple not everyone necessarily believes that distinction between man and woman that man and woman are different distinction between man and nature what is man well man is made in the image of God what is nature nature is there for us we're not there to worship nature we're not there to serve nature we're there to actually use nature to help man that is completely heretical to the environmentalist religion that is all over our schools right now the Bible is very clear about that the distinction between good and evil the distinction between adult and child these distinctions are there because distinctions actually make you free and the law is supposed to honor those distinctions to understand our broken human nature so we can flourish and glorify God everything the American left is trying to do right now is try to destroy those distinctions one at a time and almost simultaneously that there is no good and evil that you could do whatever is right in your own eyes that there is really no difference between man and woman that there is no difference between man and nature in fact no we must be subservient to Nature and you could just go through the first 11 books of Genesis and you'll see very clearly that those distinctions the core Canon of our existence is predicated on us honoring those distinctions and teaching them and defend ending them but do you know what it takes courageous people to defend those distinctions because the enemy and the world wants to do everything it possibly can to shred them let's just take one of those very clearly that's happening in this community and across the country the distinction between man and woman what a very simple biological distinction that you are you you could you could be taught now that there is no difference in man and woman you can be whatever you want to be what an amazing agent of chaos the enemy is to get us into a place of permanent Discord and confusion and I mean it's such a silly idea that you have to go to college to believe it uh which by the way check out my latest book it's it's great um if any amount you could get at College scam outside but what are the ramifications of this you know we always say well you know it's going to give you chaos temporarily the end game is not chaos the end game is what comes after chaos which is tyranny and control chaos is a means to the end they don't want you to live in chaos they want to justify a totalitarian regime that then can take over because they've decided they've decided and they've been able to destroy what we call a free society and so I've really been pouring over what I think far too many pastors do not teach which is Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers in Deuteronomy which if you look at the founding fathers the founding fathers cited the book of Deuteronomy more than any other source in writing the Declaration of Independence The Federalist Papers and the Constitution and so did Jesus he quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book and Jesus when Jesus was alive and it's still the same today the most holy thing a Jew can do is to study the Torah so our Lord and savior God in flesh loved the first five books of the Bible and yet so many pastors across the country intentionally avoid it and tell us that the first five books of the Bible are irrelevant Andy Stanley who's a pastor in Georgia says that we should not we shouldn't take seriously the first five books of the Bible that Genesis Exodus Leviticus Deuteronomy are are irrelevant and not worthy of study or appreciation and so as we try to look at this time of chaos and confusion which is widespread in our nation I find it so comforting personally to go back to that these are Eternal fights that these are fights that predate us and they're going to be you know here long past us but the the order that can be restored is very clear which is to establish the distinctions and to protect them but it takes courage to do so [Applause] now for those of you who call godspeak home I want you to forget everything Charlie just said because I'll be preaching that the next Sunday I'm no you could take it yeah if it yeah uh you know we've had the privilege to know vishna Magna waldy's amazing and in his comment that when he had come from India and he's driving through Quaker Pennsylvania and he sees a a stand that says you know uh free or no milk five dollars just leave the money in the Box he said if that was India the box would be gone the money would be gone the milk would be gone and so would your cow and we we just we take that for granted as though man is innately good we're not it's the principles established by our Founders um Charlie when when uh Pastor James Cadiz had shared about this idea of John 1 and Genesis 1 bridge that for us because that was profound and also this idea of politics when when Pastor Greg had talked about you know the the concept that you share from Aristotle that that politics is uh the highest form of of community because it combines morality with sociability but you know most people say Paulie meaning many ticks meaning blood sucking you know parasite they have such a bad understanding of politics and the one thing I was going to add is if God didn't intend us to be in politics he would have never invented marriage I mean we have to get along we have to figure out how to do that well and that's that's the case for why we should defend heterosexual marriage by the way is that marriage needs to be the union of different parts and so anything that tries to say that marriage should be the same Parts it's not marriage it's something else certainly is not marriage it's that it's supposed to intentionally be the union of the distinct that's what marriage is supposed to be it's beautiful when you really appreciate it and obviously the secular world and far too often the Christian World kind of appeases that so John 1 it's amazing it's incredibly deep and it's filled with profundity in the beginning was the word and the word became flesh and flesh with the god became flesh and the flesh became the word was the word became the Lord was God and the word became flesh thank you and this the ideal word is really the word logo so we could do a whole hour on what logos is and what that means it could be dialogue spoken truth reason these are all replacement filler words but if you kind of put the two creation stories Genesis 1 and John 1 they're both saying the same thing which is that spoken truth has incredible importance to our existence because if Genesis 1 26 and 127 is true which has let us make let us make man in our image right therefore and God spoke things into existence right and God said let there be light and God said let there be expanse and God said let there there be man therefore in the logos being spoken word is that our ability to be made in God's image is our ability to speak truth that's a very big deal and so you look at that in today's time and you look at the two creation stories Genesis 1 and John 1 what is the thing that they're most obsessed with right now is making sure you can't speak the truth in essence they're the only way you can challenge lies is to have the courage and the ability to speak truth to try to go up against it to challenge it to dissect it to cross-examine it and so we I believe we get closer to the Divine through actually using the logos and Jesus did not just say true things he was the logos that's what's so amazing is that he was the truth he was the he was the embodiment of all things true never sinned never said a faulty word and so we apply that to our own world and how we're supposed to live out people say well Charlie you know I get accused of not being Christ like sometimes that's totally and completely true but at least what I am attempting to do is I'm trying to speak truth every single day and if you want to be more like Jesus that's the most christ-like thing that you can do is to speak truth every single day regardless of the cost or the circumstance or the penalty or the punishment is to speak truth and so to be made in the image of God you think about how powerful that is and if you also just want a little early hat tip to the Trinity it says in the original Biblical Hebrew let us make man in the image of God and in our image yes and you think about that it's interesting because if you read the rabbi commentaries they don't really know what to make of that so there's all this kind of folklore they say oh it's God talking to the Angels or God talking to the animals we have a very clear answer it's the trinity and it's it's kind of a foreshadowing of the Fulfillment of this idea of the Trinity and but the the thing that how God created was through rational speech and through speaking things into existence he just said it and also understanding that when the first five books of Moses were written it was written when the world was largely Pagan the idea of a monotheistic God that just spoke things and they happened was an unconscionable concept at the time it was all these polytheistic Gods the god of the son the god of the mood the god of the river the god of the flowers the god of the and this idea that there's one God and omniscient I'm the present and is able to speak things into existence it was it was a foreign concept it was hard to wrap your head around and it wasn't until the Greeks that they realized that man is significant over all other creation or even creation itself over all other distinctive animals and so they started to celebrate man as being distinctive special and that's that's where we get the the original language of the scriptures and so because that's the language of the greatest philosophical thinkers of all time Socrates Plato Aristotle this is fascinating today epiquitous Marcus Aurelius one last thing because you can go all day on I I stopped it the ones I knew um Santa Claus you know Cicero I'll go crawl in a hole Cato the younger anyway sorry no the idea of Elohim uh let us make man Elohim it's it's interesting it's singular plurality and unified diversity where you get the the word university uh diverse Realms of study for a unified purpose to glorify God I mean the name itself is fascinating and so keep going I I'm getting stretch marks on my brain and I'm digging it no but I I if I were to tell a so I I get plenty of emails Charlie I'm a Christian I don't care about politics it's a waste of time and I find that argument silly obviously but if you just study the first 11 chapters of Genesis they're overtly political it tells you the most important questions is there a God and are you him nope but there is a God and you are not him okay gotta answer that one what is man an image Bearer with a soul and a date with eternity that's a big deal is man naturally good or naturally bad so bad that God had to press the restart button and the first thing he says after he restarted is like you know you guys are really really bad he said he said man is flawed from the beginning his heart is wicked as blunt and as clearly as it could be said the other question is what happens when you try to centralize power and you forget about God Genesis 11. it's a very it's a very interesting almost unusually placed chapter because you have the story of Noah you have Canaan you have Cain and Abel then you have Noah and then it kind of takes this a little bit of a detour which is it's not a story about the Jews it's kind of just something they observed which is the people of Babel Babel being confusion or God confuses and it's not the Tower of Babel it's the city of Babel it's interesting they did build a tower but it says the city and they wanted to build something big but they didn't do it in defiance to God they just ignored God we could do it without God we don't need God we don't think it's important and it's the it's the people who eventually in the next the next chapter 12 is God saying to Abram get up and leave your father's home like this doesn't fit it's like what is it goes from Genesis 10 perfect line of secession and then all of a sudden the story about Babel and then Abram it's like where is this and it's very clear what it is it was such a powerful story of what happens when you try to do something that ignores God that is secular that God will not honor that it sticks out like a sore thumb intentionally and Boyd is that not the world economic Forum right now is that not the great reset right so you read this biblical story and it's kind of fitting and all of a sudden the story and it's very clear that God will sow confusion in the ranks of man if you do not honor him and if you do not understand the hierarchy and the distinction between between God and man and and what is so amazing is the only reason we know about the story of Babel is they had this massive City and I'm sure they had Scrolls Galore and Scholars was this little ragtag Bedouin group of people that later became Jews that saw it happen that's the only reason we knew about it is that they didn't write any texts they had no record no it was just the story of yeah these people said that we're going to do this without God and we're going to build something so high to the heavens nearly challenge him and I believe firmly that what many of The Architects of the world economic Forum are doing one world one language one currency is trying to reunify Babel and there's that's a very deep topic happy to explain it but Thomas Jefferson and the Torah both did not like big cities or centralized power the founding fathers all they had to do and they wrote about this was read Genesis 11 and say we need checks and balances we need separation of powers because it's not good for one person or one people to be this clustered this centralized with that much power and I have to hear Christians tell me the Bible doesn't tell you anything about politics [Applause] the idea of doing something apart from God bringing confusion and I and I think about that uh you know we we have biological males now dominating female sports and and I wonder where the feminists are because men now dominate women's sports the patriarchy is taking over we just have to say we're a woman this is a super important point though because if you take secularism as your dominant worldview why is that wrong and you can't answer that question we can answer it because we believe the strong must protect the weak it's very simple we believe in distinction of man and woman but the feminists the reason they haven't spoken out is they have not been able to agree in harmony because from a secular worldview why is it wrong for someone with power to exploit someone that doesn't have as much there's no answer to it and they'll they'll fumble their words and they'll say well it's because uh you know it's the right thing but right according to what standard you mean right according to the inherited Christian tradition that you think is normal and Common Sense you see this is where they all of a sudden are buttressed up against this idea of you could do whatever is right in your own eyes right there is no response to that and so therefore this is why the trans thing is so important and you have to keep on fighting on it and you cannot give an inch because it's a perfect example of what ends up happening moral chaos into moral totalitarianism immediately from one to the other starts with moral chaos right the original argument was oh man can be whatever they want they're gonna men are going to go into female locker rooms and what would say they have chaos and blurring of distinctions that is all true and then what then you get people that have power that bully and punish people that don't have as much power and absent those of us that are able to then protect those that can't protect themselves you're going to then live in a very perverted form of a tyrannical regime so with children it's very simple there are three types of people in this world I know you say Charlie there's more than three for this there's three okay there are infants there are Protectors of infants and there are predators it's that simple you're one of those three people the infants are people we know we know who they are right sometimes they could be 25 sometimes they'd be 45 sometimes they could be eight right then there's the protector of infants this is a new category that is uniquely Western most civilizations had zero understanding as to why children should be protected if you read your Bible I guarantee you one of the things you remember most is the harsh clear teaching of Jesus about not touching children right one of the harshest penalties communicated by our Lord and savior is what happens if you go after children but then there's Predators there have always been predators and there will always be predators in Greek times boys were for pleasure and women were for child making in the Aztecs the Mayans the Sumerians the the river civilizations children were for sacrifice what does the Torah have to say about that a lot God puts Abraham to the test that's the first thing it says you have to understand God never intended to allow the sacrifice to be fulfilled okay it's very important it's some Christians like well God wanted Abraham he never the first thing it says is God put Abraham to the test okay and then he says right there very clearly child sacrifice is wrong he also he also told the servants the boy and I will return Yes and there's yes I there's a it's an interesting uh commentary on that but basically maybe Abraham knew at his core that he was being tested that's that's how I read it but why is that important that's the first ancient document that explicitly says you do not get closer to God by killing your young that's a big deal every other tradition was about killing your young to try to win the favors of the Gods temples that still existed today in Central and South America erected just for that purpose and so now you fast forward today you're like oh that doesn't apply to me today it does not apply today well okay a million abortions a year we'll put that aside but also with infants Protectors of infants and predators if the Protectors of infants are afraid to be calling bad names bigots homophobes or whatever nothing will stop the Predators from going after the infants and that is the great struggle of our time it's the feel behind the parents party it's the feel behind the sexualization of our curriculum it is the field behind CRT behind pornography in our schools behind all of these things is what will the people that are tasked to perfect protect infants do against the Predators I could say this as a new father I want to go Old Testament on these people and I don't care what they call me [Applause] all right um yeah let me just kind of one more thing before we do questions um I just wanna I've been super blessed by diving back into Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers in Deuteronomy I don't think enough Christians have had really the time to do that as much Rob has taught through it really well especially the Civic and moral implications our Lord and savior loved the Torah and I think you'll be blessed I have to give him a shout out he's the best Dennis Prager has done unbelievable work that I think is just as applicable to Jews as it is to Christians and I see I see it in such clear detail like wow the country that I love the country that I fight for every day was birthed out of a appreciation for the books that so many American churches say they're not worthy of study that's really interesting isn't it when I hear a pastor say that I don't want to get involved in politics I'm like that's someone that has not really studied Leviticus or Deuteronomy it's very clear okay let's do some questions all right uh so there's ground rules for questions that God speak and if you violate them all the chairs are wired you'll be electrocuted you think I'm joking uh you're asking a question we're not we didn't invite you to come and speak tonight I'm serious that we don't want you to bloviate and give us your opinion on um whatever ask a question a question ends with a question mark okay every is there anyone who doesn't understand that because I will stop you if you because we anyone we've had some interesting experiences we have yes all right we've got a question we want to line up yeah yeah line up uh just line up right here on this side if you would and then uh yeah just come on up not all at once yeah nobody cares oh here we go we won't make him walk all the way around be nice we'll meet you halfway yeah I grew up in this country in the 1950s well we were taught in school was patriotism the things that you're talking about okay question changed a lot do you feel that God is perhaps not as favorable towards the United States as he once was because we have deviated from our founding fathers and those precepts it's a great question um the answer the answer yeah that was great thank you there is definitely a lot of evidence to show that I hesitate to answer it explicitly uh because I think a blunt answer can and will create cynicism if I were to say you know what God's favor is no longer on This Nation then you'd say what what is the the what is the meaning of fighting anymore why even fight if I think that it's over look a couple things removing prayer in schools removing Bible study the secular secularization of society all these things I think might be the case but the most operative way I can answer it is what does that mean for me and for me it means I have to fight harder to try to create a new Awakening a new Revival and movement around patriotism and goodness and truth and virtue and Beauty I'm afraid I hear far too often and I get a lot of these emails Charlie America's over with God has turned his back on this nation why are you fighting just give up I actually find that to be a morally evil argument as Christians you are not allowed to engage in surrender or cynicism that is a secular belief to be cynical you must be hopeful optimistic yes realistic but also courageous in your action always hi Charlie um I got to tell you I was born and raised in California you know being the age I am I'm 29. it's really hard being out here uh what do you recommend to fight against just all the leftism that we see from just the people we meet to the friends that we have how do we fight back it's tough out here yeah it yeah it is and look I want to say some of the hardest fighters in the country are right here in California I have so much respect for all of you it's incredible and I want it to stay that way look I I get asked about California all the time we are now I live in Arizona we are the victims of your best and brightest moving to Scottsdale and um I don't think it's made this place any better or are any better I don't know who's feeling it for the better actually I know some of you say oh you can have them Charlie I'm like I don't know if you want Arizona to turn I don't think that's exactly that's exactly good look I'm going to answer it the same way which is what can you individually do study honor God be courageous in your action try to flourish in your individual life try to understand what God's purpose is for you and then you have to fight Psalm 97 10. if you love God you must hate evil and there's a lot of evil to hate right now it's my one of my favorite scriptures and that that means that loving that means that hating evil is actually Part of Your Love of the Divine in Ephesians it says we must expose the darkness and the dark Deeds of the enemy there's a lot of Deeds to expose and so look this is why Community matters this is why this church matters and look California can and will continue to make huge impacts on the nation um but I also encourage it's very interesting when I get I almost only get that question from Men is the macro question like oh Charlie how do I save California like they're trying to reconquer Persia right the questions I get from women are how do I make sure my child shares my values totally the opposite right one wants to reclaim the Arabian Peninsula the other wants to make sure a single human being's life is ordered that's why marriage is such a beautiful thing right it's one it's like completely different one is worried about the conquest of the Stars so I would just I would say that focusing smaller and more micro right how can I improve myself how can I make myself physically stronger how can I make my faith stronger that's the best advice I can give to people I have no idea what is coming next people say Charlie are we going to Civil War I pray not that would be terrible are we doing this all I know is this is that if you take time to strengthen yourself no matter what happens that will give you an advantage no matter what ends up coming around the corner I'm gonna I'm gonna add to that as a Californian I'm gonna add to it Victory is not determined by the outcome but by The Obedience you can't be discouraged because we're in California and and there's little victories and as Charlie pointed out on his show that the house is Switched and it's because California overperformed so just keep fighting and we'll win no we've already won we're not fighting for victory we're fighting from Victory and just stay the course amen Frank Charlie it's good to see you good God bless you and your family on your new addition I don't know if you have an answer to this question but my heart is grief for fathers we live in a time where fatherlessness is normalized you're a new dad if there's anything there I mean you're known for your fight your tenacity and your knowledge and as a dad now has that changed your view at all your lens about culture about fatherlessness about men anything there I'd be blessed to hear yeah uh thank you it hasn't changed but it has clarified and deepened so we have a five month old amazing praise God super healthy and just vibrant full of joy and just incredible and one of the things you learn almost immediately and I'm sure there's a lot of other lessons around the corner for me as I hear from other people is that you really don't matter in this equation and it is and this is why fatherlessness is so high because the whole culture is about you and your feelings not about Duty or obligation and that's a completely different moral construct that we should talk about so it doesn't matter if what I want to do it's what I ought to do which is to raise good people and to make sure that my daughter is well served and that I'm present and my wife is supported it's completely irrelevant what I feel that is very clear when you have a child and it's also clear why weak cowardly men that have been fed a steady diet of secular indulgent narcissism abandon their wives because we've been told them that you matter you're all this yeah look you do matter but it's less about how you feel and it's more important about one of my favorite words Duty we are a dutyless nation right now and young men have not been told Hey listen pal you have an obligation to that child and your wife and anything less than that is is challenging the Divine is Waging War on nature and is you is you is you not being the best version of yourself right now that doesn't mean much to most men anymore unfortunately that's clarified the second thing on masculinity which is really important is people say well Charlie how do you juggle it all you know last five months I'm I'm busy I'm still doing three hours of radio day raising a bunch of money for turning point I have 350 employees at Turning Point USA and all this but I prioritize being a father and being present saying no to a lot more stuff shamelessly by the way but also there is a secret that I'm so just thrilled about and it's right in front of our eyes it's so simple and it you have to honor it just like Jesus did and just like God did which is the Sabbath people say Charlie how do you make time I say God told me to make time it's very simple Friday night Rob knows it Mikey knows it the whole team knows it I am unreachable period phone goes off all that matters is family for 25 hours period non-negotiable Friday night to Saturday night and guess what it makes it makes the other it makes the other nine Commandments easier it is the Gateway commandment it is the Commandment that makes it easier to do all the rest I count down the days to Sabbath I could push myself harder on Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and the phone goes off I say in the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth which is the kadush they do it they've been doing it for three thousand years and I have nothing but 24 25 hours of family time that's more than most families actually usually get in a given week regardless right now how does that mean for me it means that I I first I think that us kind of de-emphasizing the Sabbath has been one of the great mistakes of secular modernity I think we should bring back blue laws I think whoever runs for president should run on at least an optional day of rest and celebrate it and talk about how we're moving way too fast we're hurrying our life and we're more depressed and we're more suicidal and more anxious than ever and the scriptures have the key which is to shut everything down for 24 hours once a week I think it will solve a lot of our problems just by doing that alone I'm writing a whole book on this by the way because I think one of the great failures of modern Christianity is no longer honoring the Sabbath I really do and I don't know how we got that way it's become way too consumeristic and secular maybe one regard but that it's deepened and now I realize oh wow the Sabbath was made so we could have families it's like it makes perfect sense uh there is nothing that can distract me and so I have a built-in Advantage I encourage every family to do it you want an extra 25 hours act as if God will judge you if you do not honor the Sabbath you're like well Charlie I don't believe that God judges me where do you go to church like of course thankfully you have Grace and Redemption and mercy but I mean so anyway that's I could go on at length ad nauseam in that way but I am a recipient of a blessing God rested after creation and I think we should too [Applause] um so how would you recommend proceeding when you have trans people in your family that obviously you love and you care about these people but you don't agree with these things and you don't support these things but you still care about these people that that's a great question so and Rob we can go till like 7 45 8 so I don't want to turn people away if they have questions okay look that's a really hard question and and I my heart goes out to you because in some ways it is uh it's easier it's easier for me to kind of be uh blunt on the trans issue because it's a distance right in some ways I don't have to live with it I think I I don't I I don't know who in your family is dealing with it but let me say this as let me just say it as bluntly as possible it is not loving to validate somebody's Indulgence in a mental illness it's not it's just not and the loving thing to do would be to get them to support the care that they need through spoken truth to tell them that how you feel is not consistent with your biological reality and those who argue with reality live in hell I didn't come up with that that's Saint Augustine by the way okay it just sounds so good so I do a pregnant pause those who argue with reality live in hell it's one of my favorite things but the pregnant pause makes it seem like I came up with it so it's really cool um but I could go in at length with this and this is where I lose a lot of people in the secular world but I don't believe love is the acceptance of a war on God's creation or acceptance of sin okay this is one of the reasons why I don't like the word empathy it's a new age term sympathy is fine empathy is nowhere to be found in the Bible right sympathy and empathy are two different words but let me say this though that I believe love is knowing somebody well enough for that they have not reached their full potential and then Having the courage to tell them that they should not stay in a certain pattern so I don't know if you have the trans person is thinking about hormone blockers or puberty blockers or chemical castration or Lupron here's what the data does show us it shows us that that starts at Cascade of interventions that increases the rate of suicide self self harm misery what we do know is that from people that have escaped that Cascade of interventions that true Liberation and true Freedom actually comes from proper reconciliation um with probably someone who harmed them right because that's usually one of the reasons why they go through this and I'll say this the final I don't know how old this person is that's dealing with this the vast majority of people that are coming out as trans right now in America are actually young women experiencing puberty that do not have a father figure at home and they think puberty means that they're actually a male and they're preyed on by groomer predators in school prescribed irreversible drug treatment that then puts them into this cycle what's all of that I'm not one to say it's easy what you have to do but what I would encourage you is to love like Jesus would which is not to accept the sin to always still dialogue and to be there for small favors or to be there for dinners I would not shut off communication or conversation I think that'd be the worst thing you could do but when the rubber hits the road and they seek validation because they will they will always seek validation this is why the trans movement is tyrannical at nature it's not enough that they chop off their parts they want you to tell you that they're doing the right thing that they're chopping off their parts it is by definition always seeking of the validation of the other because they know what they're doing is wrong so they need to get up it's exactly like where you know you're doing something wrong like hey yeah I'm doing the right thing and your friends like I should know you're doing the wrong thing right sin always tries to seek out validation from others and so that's where I encourage you to have the courage to say I love you too much to tell you what you're doing is right God bless you [Music] thanks Charlie for being here question we all know that leftism is permeating our culture our entertainment industry the schools the government what do we do Charlie when we see leftism creeping into the church like it is and some of the biggest resistors are pastors they're pastors that were continually battling against what hope is there for Revival and reformation and revolution in the church what a great question I I have to answer it first by honoring our pastors that are here tonight in attendance and are here to [Applause] because there are so many good ones there are and they need to be repeated they need to be talked about in lunches and over coffees and text message you need to say their names you need to celebrate them on social media you need to pray for them because the enemy is targeting them he's trying to winnow those ranks and we you know James Kitty's Greg Denham Jack Hibbs Pastor Jurgen we could just go through the list right praise God for these people because there's not enough of them I was joking around earlier I don't think it's 10 percent of pastors that are courageous I think it's maybe a strong and mighty one percent praise God it's a strong and mighty one percent right and growing we're going to double that all right but [Applause] uh so what can we do well first let me further diagnose the problem because I've really labored over this topic and this issue I've said this many times those that listen to my podcast and my radio program you've heard this story before so you have to just entertain me and back in the spring of 2020 I made the worst prediction in the history of American radio so bad they should have kicked me off the airwaves I made this hour-long Proclamation I did this whole podcast where I said listen okay they're trying to lock down America and the pastors love Liberty and the churches aren't going to put up with this and American Christians are going to fight back and the lockdowns are not going to last a week and American Christians are just going to tell these tyrants to go to heaven and to get out and it's going to be this huge thing it was the worst prediction I mean I was the opposite right the leaders of the lockdowns were Christians quaking in fear wondering what side you know I was just this again I was coming after it as a political guy assuming that Christians loved and understood Liberty and I was totally wrong now you guys do and you're a rarity and you know you're a rarity and your exception and Rob I mean just understand I don't think you all remember this I was watching on my live stream this thing it was it was not Easter but it was it was it was a good it was Palm Sunday do you remember this Insanity it was Palm Sunday and Rob I think had like one row of chairs with people in hazmat suits with no this is a real thing they were wearing hazmat suits straight out of Chernobyl was impressive how he got them I don't know how he did it with they had went they had like disinfectant three masks on they had oxygen machines every door was wide open and like one person was allowed to come in at a time and like take communion for Palm Sunday and then leave and then they would I literally in the live stream you'd watch that they would spray the chair and then wipe it off and it was it was amazing to see on the live stream it was like a machine it was like someone comes up has mad suit comes in and for this Rob was just villainized in the media as if he's Dr Kevorkian Dr Death he's trying to kill people and I was just impressed by the logistics of the operation it's like a well-oiled machine it's like this is military tiles you know and and I was just I I I I I was one of the early adopters that this coveted thing is way overblown and not what it needs to be and totally insane and I was censored on social media many of you guys were too so I had very little patience of this and I really understood totalitarianism well I studied literature I got my start so I was cheering Rob on from afar like open up your church like these people are the worst at all this and I came to your defense and all that but and I know there's other examples of that but it was very rare and it was so instructive to me that we have we have a church that from it has might have biblical gospel views but certainly has secular political views and that was so Illuminating to me and look I think that we're in a better spot now than we were a couple years ago I think that's definitely fair um but okay to answer your question because that was a little bit of an appropriate detour what can we do about it there's three types of churches there's the courageous there's the cowardly and the complicit you are in a courageous Church praise God you are in a courageous church right you are Eric and I tied to this church we love this church you should support this church find a courageous church and support them it's not Rob find One support them praise God number two there's a cowardly church I'll be very honest I am losing my patience with the Cowardly Church I had and I'm very honest with my you know my struggles there's some fruits of the spirit that come easier me than others patience recently with cowardly pastors is wearing very very thin and so I had somebody recently that said to me well Charlie what do you have to say to a pastor that's still undecided about things I say hold on a second after the lockdowns the forced vaccines the MRNA Gene altering shot the masks on kids most suicidal generation in history wide open border crashing the economy manipulation of social media spying on a president removal of a president you're still kind of in the neutral zone at this point I don't know I need to see more information to proceed like I'm gonna need more time to figure it out right it's it's like the most compressed master class on political totalitarianism in American history like a two-year compressed like we're gonna throw it all at you we're gonna lie to you we're gonna shut you up when you call out our lies we're gonna throw you in prison if you talk about the fact that we're shutting you up because we don't lie about our lies Meanwhile we're going to allow people to burn down Wendy's for sport we're going to call it racial Justice say it's mostly peaceful displace a president and call it an election and Pastor saying I'm gonna need I'm gonna need I'm gonna need more time yeah I have no patience for that okay you shouldn't be in the ministry at this point honestly resign get out of the ministry if you're still saying you're on the fence after these last couple years you shouldn't be a pastor anymore [Applause] you've had your chance man all right there's your answer well I I didn't finish oh he's not finished my bad and then finally the complicit sorry the complicit are the people that work actively against our interests gay pride Flags BLM Flags they should be rebuked and all that sort of stuff we got to find the Cowardly churches give them one final warning and then we should just hope those churches close I'll be honest I don't care if they have good Easter Service I don't care if they have a beautiful Christmas service I don't care I don't wish them well I want the courageous churches to stand and fight or else we're not going to have a civilization and we're all going to be having robust theological disputes from prison sorry interrupted all right now I know I'm taking two people because the last one was my question this will be my last one on my side you can have all the rest um it's 7 35. okay okay 20 more minutes uh this is exciting for me this is Nina she's from South Korea and she heads up the Turning Point conservative movement in South Korea hi Charlie thank you rob um South Korea is a free Nation now thanks to American soldiers and we have also adopted biblical values same values of America when founding our own country and yet these days a lot of leftist ideologies from America and that have been destroying American values are also flowing into our country and destroying our foundation as well and do you believe this Freedom Movement that you're in right now Christian truth movement should spread out to the world and if if you do then how can we achieve that and she also wants to know if you'll go to Korea with me because I'm going to go with and we're going to do a go to Seoul yeah we're going to go a soul yeah we're gonna have a yeah let's do it all right first of all God bless you there is no and this is why I I'm done with these pastors there is no greater demonstration but the moral need to engage in politics than looking at a satellite image between North Korea and South Korea it's that simple one is politics properly formed and one is politics a morally formed I I get so fired up my blood pressure Rises when a pastor says it doesn't matter you've got concentration camps death camps propaganda people being massacred in the streets and complete totalitarian regime in North Korea and a robust Christian Nation that is the rule of law separation of powers and a constitution freedom of speech Commerce some of the most valuable companies on the planet in South Korea and you're trying to tell me politics doesn't matter if you believe in a God that loves people and God looks at it and he says which one do you think is closer to glorifying him that has more people being able to be free God looks at North Korea or South Korea only politics is to answer for that question and yet Christians say repeatedly it does not matter it does not matter what an unbelievably entitled elitist strictly Western belief to think politics don't matter answer your question yes I want to see this Freedom Movement be exported across the world I would love to have some good American exports because you touched on something super profound not enough time to get into it tonight right now we are the worst on the planet on the trans stuff other countries think we're insane with what we're doing like out of control insane the Japanese they they don't understand it at all like they're like what trans you could think whatever you are and you're going after children even the Europeans think we're taking this trans thing too far the French Emmanuel macron who is no lover of America or American values says that this American mind virus of wokism I'm paraphrasing is destroying French language culture and he's not wrong so our net export right now is ideapathogens that are destroying other civilizations and cultures I'm not going to do this for the rest of you she came all the way from South Korea let's go get in here come on [Applause] God bless you thank you you agree with Putin when he said he was Gog of Magog and also what do you think America's place is in this global conflict biblically speaking okay say the first part again sir do you do you agree with Putin when he said he was Gog of Magog god with makeup Gog of Magog oh okay I'm not familiar with Putin's theological views so I'm not going to comment oh he actually he he quoted the Bible by oh okay saying he was that yeah do more research on that um but yeah so the second part what is America's role in the global Affairs right yeah look I I believe that America needs to be a leader of course I again I think this Ukraine mess is not worthy of our inner intervention in one way shape or form except the fact that we should be leading for the brokering of Peace we should every day be hosting meetings why are we not getting closer to peace we're getting further away from peace and by the way you know who's the impediment to peace yeah Putin can't be trusted zelenski is the one that is denied reasonable peace negotiations time and time again don't believe me talk to the people on the ground in Ukraine this whole War could have been prevented if Joe Biden the Central Intelligence Agency in zelenski would have taken a very prudent deal to allow the eastern part of Ukraine which are 99 Russian speaking ethnically and homogenously question to just allow that to happen and this displacement this Refugee crisis never should have happened now what is America's role look first I would love to talk about wars abroad but first we are a broken nation and we're further getting we need to secure our border first be energy independent get our recession figured out not have a hundred not have a hundred seven thousand drug overdoses every single year not have the leading cause of death for kids 18 to 30 be suicide I think it's insane to even been talking about these Foreign Wars of abstractions when our own country is falling apart you know your regime is not serving your best interests when they're more worried about war games abroad when your own country is being shattered into a million pieces thank you in our current level of political corruption could our leaders take a position that could get them assassinated well uh well that's interesting yes they they could I do think though I mean look I think Kennedy was assassinated by Deep State forces I did a whole podcast on that I don't believe Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide so I'm I tend to be more open-minded on these things so I I do think though that and this is my current theory that assassinations tend to create Bedlam and Chaos the new maneuvers of the permanent administrative State tends to not be as blunt measures as what we saw in Dallas but instead it's what they did to Trump which is we are going to remove You by other means we are going to pretend like it's peaceful and that it's within the Constitutional Norms we're going to use the Intel agencies we're going to indict try to indict you use blackmail and I think they're trying to do that to Joe Biden right now as well and so to answer your question is there something that that could be done to necessitate an assassination attempt hard to answer that correctly I will say this that there were people and this is going to get written up by the by the media so I'd be very clear I have to say this there were people within our government that if they could they would have killed Donald Trump period and I know you're not allowed to say that out loud but it's true just read the Peter struck text messages for the deep-seated contempt so not everybody in the government wanted to see Donald Trump killed not everyone wanted to see him taken out therefore I believe there was a mass agreement that we could take him out using Facebook Zucker bucks Mark Elias mail-in ballots FBI CIA DHS so I believe that Donald Trump was such a threat to the administrative State the fourth branch of government the status quo that they had to throw everything at him and unfortunately as the chapter is still being written they were successful and we'll see if they are successful at the end of the chapter really quick follow-up great answer oh okay thank you on the topic of protecting infants and also those people that have been trafficked are you aware that the military tribunal