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Charlie Kirk Reveals Five Critical Lessons From A Year of Lockdowns and What the Church Must Do Now

Charlie Kirk delivers a message at Legacy Church in New Mexico about the five transformative lessons learned during pandemic restrictions. Speaking to a packed congregation, Kirk addresses the weaponization of science, the importance of state sovereignty, the weakness of the modern American church, humanity's resistance to freedom, and the critical crossroads facing believers. Kirk challenges pastors who remain silent on cultural issues, defends Pastor Steve Smothermon's decision to keep his church open despite government orders, and makes the case that Christians must actively contest in every sphere of society, from school boards to Congress, or risk losing religious liberty entirely. He argues that the church built America and warns that secular forces fear nothing more than an active, engaged body of believers who recognize that their ultimate authority comes from God, not government officials.

March 8, 2021

The Myth of Separation of Church and State

Charlie Kirk opens by addressing a phrase he hears repeatedly from pastors who refuse to engage politically: "separation of church and state." Kirk argues this concept is neither biblical, constitutional, nor moral. He challenges pastors to flip the script: if they truly believe in this separation, why aren't they demanding the state stay out of the church? Kirk emphasizes that historically, the threat has never been the church taking over the state—it has always been the state taking over the church.

Kirk identifies as an evangelical Christian and states that his faith is the most important thing in his life. He explains the gospel simply: Jesus took his place, substitutionary atonement, grace. He distinguishes between justice (getting what you deserve), mercy (getting less than you deserve), and grace (someone else serving the punishment you deserve so you can live free). This foundational belief, Kirk says, drives everything he does at Turning Point USA and motivates him to speak in churches across America.

His mission is twofold: spread the gospel and preserve the freedom necessary to continue spreading it. Without that freedom, Kirk warns, Christians will be sharing the gospel from prison—a pattern that has repeated throughout history.

Lesson One: Science and Reason Are Dying

Kirk's first lesson centers on the phrase "trust the science," which he calls one of the most pathological developments of the past year. He argues that those demanding blind trust in science have abandoned actual scientific inquiry, which requires constant questioning and challenge. Kirk points out that the more we explore the scientific world, the more it proves biblical truth. He references Thomas Aquinas and notes that concepts like a spherical earth, quarantining the sick (not the healthy), and life beginning at conception all appear in the Bible thousands of years before modern scientific discoveries.

Kirk singles out Dr. Anthony Fauci as someone with "no wisdom, zero." He explains that wisdom begins with the fear of the Lord, as stated in Proverbs, and argues that removing God from schools has eliminated wisdom from public discourse. Fauci, according to Kirk, represents this perfectly—full of facts but devoid of wisdom, operating instead on power, fear-mongering, and what Kirk calls "safetyism."

He challenges the audience with simple questions: If you've already had coronavirus, why must you get vaccinated? Why did mask guidance constantly change? Kirk clarifies that he is "mask agnostic"—people who believe masks work should wear them, those who don't shouldn't be forced to. His opposition is to mandates, which he finds philosophically ironic coming from people who say "my body, my choice."

The scientific method, Kirk argues, has been replaced with unchallenged premises enforced at all costs. While he acknowledges the initial uncertainty justified a brief pause, once mortality rates and risk factors became clear, every school should have reopened immediately. The phrase "trust the science" has become a conversation-ender designed to prevent legitimate inquiry—the exact opposite of how science should function.

Lesson Two: The Difference Between States Matters More Than Ever

Kirk's second lesson focuses on federalism and how different state responses to the pandemic have produced drastically different outcomes. He points out that New Mexico, California, New York, and Illinois remained shuttered while states like Florida, South Dakota, and Texas opened fully—without masks, social distancing, or mandates—and saw better results.

Florida, with the second-oldest population in the country, has lower hospitalization and death rates than many locked-down states. Kirk emphasizes that rates matter more than total numbers, mocking someone who compared Florida's total deaths to New Mexico's without accounting for Florida's vastly larger population.

The consequences of New Mexico's approach are severe: increases in crime, carjackings, violent crime, teenage mental health crises, drug overdoses, suicides, and the permanent closure of 40% of small businesses. Kirk directly addresses New Mexico's governor (refusing to use her name because "she's not worthy of remembering") and says she will have to answer for keeping schools closed, for the overdoses, for the suicides, for the destroyed businesses.

Kirk praises the American federal system, explaining that the states created the federal government, not the other way around. This is different from European models where centralized governments issue orders to powerless provinces. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis called states "laboratories of democracy," and Kirk argues this past year has provided a powerful civics lesson: elections have consequences. New Mexico has not had a Republican legislature in 90 years, and the results speak for themselves.

He notes that elected officials who impose strict mandates constantly violate their own orders—like California Governor Gavin Newsom dining at the French Laundry with friends while keeping restaurants closed. This proves they don't actually believe what they're preaching.

Lesson Three: American Christians Have Lost Ground to the Left

Kirk's third lesson is sobering: over the past hundred years, American leftists have been far more successful than American Christians. The fastest-growing religion in America is leftism. Evidence of this includes the number of churches embracing Black Lives Matter Incorporated and pastors adopting secular ideologies.

The secularization of America has reached a critical point. Kirk argues that if you don't believe in God, right and wrong become merely opinions. This drives atheists crazy, but he insists it's true. When he asks college students whether people are naturally good or bad, most say naturally good—a foolish belief that only comes from growing up in a wealthy, benevolent society like America where things generally work.

The Bible clearly teaches original sin and distance from God. Kirk proves this with a simple observation: you must teach goodness to a three-year-old, but they naturally know how to lie, steal, cheat, and manipulate to get what they want. Creating good people requires schools, academies, repetition, and discipline because it's hard work—something most countries have failed to do.

In the 1940s and 50s, America taught young people "you are the problem and America is awesome." Now we teach "you're awesome and America's the problem." Students are no longer told to improve their lives but to destroy the country around them. There's no gratitude for what came before.

The American church has grown weak, complacent, and complicit with sinister political movements. Kirk acknowledges this is a tough realization, but the church founded this country—that's not debatable. The Founders were God-fearing, Bible-inspired, courageous men and women who built a nation on Judeo-Christian principles drawn from Blackstone, John Locke, and biblical teaching.

Kirk calls out pastors by name, starting with Rick Warren of Saddleback Church. While Warren had an impact on Kirk's journey to faith, Kirk says Warren is currently failing the test. Warren claimed God doesn't care how you vote and there's no difference between the two parties. Kirk counters that God cares about everything you do—what you say, who you marry, how you act, what you eat, where you travel, what work you do. The idea that God gives a moral pass on any action is completely antithetical to belief in an omniscient, omnipotent Creator.

Voting reflects your values. It's getting into the public square and saying "this is what I believe." And voting is the bare minimum Christians should do in the public square. When pastors like Rick Warren or Andy Stanley from Georgia say Christians shouldn't be involved in politics, Kirk calls it "the enemy whispering in your ear." It's unbiblical.

He references Daniel, Mordecai, Esther, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, and Joseph—all examples of God's people influencing secular government for His purposes. In Daniel 6, the king forbade following Jewish law and prayer. Daniel responded by going home, opening his window to the city, and praying publicly. This was Pastor Steve Smothermon's "Daniel moment"—defying the governor's order and opening the church.

Christians are called to be counselors to the king, always influencing secular government for God's purpose. They should run for office, vote, run candidates, participate in media, and constantly engage. The left fears an active church more than anything because an active church means people spending 30 minutes worshiping something other than government. When believers worship, they acknowledge that the governor matters less than the Lord—they take orders from God, not from politicians.

Lesson Four: People Don't Want to Be Free

Kirk's fourth lesson is philosophical and sobering: most people don't actually want freedom. He proves this biblically through the story of Moses liberating the Israelites from slavery in Egypt. Just two chapters after their liberation, they complain and ask to return to Egypt because "at least we had meat." They preferred comfortable slavery over dangerous freedom.

Freedom is hard. Freedom and responsibility are directly tied together. Many students claim to care about freedom but define it merely as putting whatever substance they want into their bodies or making any moral decision without consequence. That's not true freedom—that's slavery to impulse and appetite.

What makes Christ philosophically unique is that everything He stood for was about liberating people from past choices. This is extraordinary. The purest form of torture is dwelling on a past mistake without redemption. Jesus offers liberation from sin, setting people free from their past—but that word "free" is difficult for many to accept.

Christians understand freedom differently than the rest of the world. Most people, given the choice, would rather be taken care of than be free. Dennis Prager argues that freedom is not natural—left to their own devices, people become either terrorists or terrorized, slaves or masters, oppressors or oppressed. Western civilization changed this pattern, but freedom must be taught.

Having children is also a value that must be taught. America is on pace to have 500,000 fewer births this year than last. Experts predicted a baby boom during lockdowns but got the opposite because children are no longer valued. Why have children if you don't believe in replicating your values? People participate in the act but use technology to prevent conception.

We are on the verge of population collapse because we haven't communicated the need to have children. Christians have a biblical answer: it's commanded to be fruitful and multiply. But for the secular world, if you believe America is terrible and the world is broken, why bring another life into it? Everything is a value—freedom, children, all of it must be actively taught and chosen.

Lesson Five: This Is Either the Beginning or the End

Kirk's final lesson is the most important: America is at a critical crossroads. Almost every institution has been delegitimized—news media, tech companies, colleges, teachers, curriculum, even many churches have gone astray. When God scatters and chaos reigns, what should believers do? Hide and retreat, waiting for Jesus to return?

Some Christians use eschatology as an excuse for inaction, believing Jesus is coming soon so engagement is pointless. Kirk respectfully disagrees. Instead of saying "the house is on fire, get the kids out," he asks: why not put out the fire and rebuild?

People are searching for truth more than ever. This is the moment when the church, Christians, and freedom-loving Americans must be courageous and bold, not fearful and cowardly. Kirk offers concrete action steps:

  • Run for school board
  • Run for mayor's races
  • Start taking terrain
  • Take the education of your children seriously
  • Homeschool if possible
  • If retired, help homeschooling parents
  • Support private schools doing good work
  • Volunteer in education

Education comes from the Latin "to lead forth." What happens on college campuses soon happens in Congress and corporate boardrooms. If America doesn't reverse educational decay, nothing else will be solved.

Kirk references the Genesis 11 principle—when people push the boundaries of what God allows, He scatters them like at the Tower of Babel. The question is whether Christians will hide in caves and catacombs or contest and occupy by building new companies, starting new endeavors, getting married, having families, and refusing to be intimidated by local tyrants.

When believers step into the public square—the ecclesia—they participate in what Jesus called for. The word Jesus used when He said "on this rock I will build my church" was "ecclesia," a Greek word for a political gathering unified around freedom and equality. Jesus was calling for public square engagement, not compartmentalized Christianity.

Kirk calls for comprehensive Christianity across every sector: if you don't like the music your kids listen to, support Christian artists or become one yourself; if you don't like their education, step up and provide better. Christians must be participants, not spectators.

This is a moment for not just a great awakening but a revival unlike anything America has seen before. But it will only happen if believers step into the public square. Kirk encourages those who haven't been to church in a while or don't believe in God to consider that the most fulfilling thing a human being can do is come into relationship with their Creator. After that, everything makes more sense.

The Bible is the greatest book ever written, the Word of God. Kirk recommends starting with Proverbs or John. He urges believers to be courageous because this time is for them—this kairos moment, a Greek word meaning "action point." Kirk asks the audience to subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast, explaining that subscriptions help him stay uncanceled and uncensored. If everyone subscribes, he says, they would beat the New York Times podcast by morning—which he calls "a moral thing to do."

An Altar Call for Action

Following Kirk's message, Pastor Steve Smothermon gives an altar call. He addresses those who may attend churches "doing nothing" and expresses sadness that people support institutions that aren't standing for anything. He declares that Legacy Church has taken off all shackles and will be who God called them to be.

Smothermon emphasizes that the progressive left is unashamedly pushing immorality and ungodliness, so Christians must be equally unashamed in proclaiming truth. He clarifies that while many claim to believe in God, there is only one true God—the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ. Only through Jesus do people get to heaven; there is no other way.

The pastor explains that too many people want to be saved without making Jesus Lord. The Bible says you must believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the lordship of Jesus. Salvation requires submitting your will to His. Smothermon challenges the congregation: if you don't have courage to stand for Jesus in a church that supports you, how will you walk with Him when you leave and face a hostile world?

He leads those who raised their hands in a prayer of salvation, asking them to confess Jesus as Lord and commit to following Him with intention—not just seeking fire insurance from hell but genuinely serving God, making church a priority, and getting into the Word. The service concludes with dozens across the sanctuary, balconies, and online raising their hands to receive Christ and begin walking with God.

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