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Charlie Kirk Reveals the Five Fake Religions Seeking to Replace Christianity in America
Charlie Kirk addresses a packed church in San Marcos, California, exposing five dangerous ideologies masquerading as religions that seek to fill the void left by declining Christian faith: Earth worship, the cult of diversity, the religion of tolerance, worship of power, and scientism. Speaking as a new father, Kirk connects ancient pagan practices to modern movements, from environmentalism to DEI initiatives, arguing that each represents a repackaged Luciferian desire to replace biblical truth. Drawing from Genesis 1-11, Kirk explains why Christianity must recognize these competing worldviews and respond with courage rather than retreat into end-times pessimism. He challenges believers to plant apple trees even when the world seems to be ending, emphasizing that the strong must use their power to protect the weak, a uniquely Christian principle under assault.
The Five Fake Religions Replacing Christianity
Charlie Kirk identifies five dangerous ideologies that are filling the god-sized hole in American hearts as Christianity becomes less popular in certain sectors. These aren't simply secular movements but full-fledged religions with their own systems of worship, atonement, and promises of salvation.
Kirk emphasizes that throughout history, the norm has been believing in false gods, not atheism. The first five books of Moses were written as a refutation of pagan polytheistic river civilization religions. Today's fake religions are simply repackaged manifestations of these ancient practices.
Earth Worship and Environmentalism
The first fake religion Kirk identifies is earth worship, manifested in modern environmentalism. He explains that the God of the Bible can be described in four key ways: God is above nature, God is moral, God is personal, and God is Holy.
Genesis represented a profound breakthrough by teaching that God spoke nature into existence rather than being found within nature. This contradicted the pagan belief that divinity resided in mountains, rivers, and the sun.
Modern environmentalists have returned to this ancient error, believing that trees, rivers, and animals matter more than human beings. Kirk describes this as inherently anti-human because when decisions must be made, environmentalists consistently choose to reduce human activity and population to save nature.
The hierarchy matters tremendously: nature, man, God. We are above nature and below God. Radical environmentalists reject this, viewing humans as polluters of nature rather than stewards created in God's image.
The Cult of Diversity and Religion of Anti-Racism
Kirk identifies this as the most dangerous of the five religions in the immediate term. This ideology has taken Christian concepts like original sin, atonement, and community and perverted them.
Instead of original sin being the fall in the garden, the new original sin is melanin content—how people look. Organizations like Black Lives Matter have created a quasi-religious structure with meetings, tithes, offerings, and confessions.
What makes this particularly insidious is that it's primarily led not by minorities but by white liberal suburban women who find meaning in hating themselves and believe they can atone through donations and public apologies.
Kirk notes America has a supply and demand problem with racism—the country is so un-racist that people fake hate crimes to create the racism they claim to be fighting against. Yet this religion paralyzes good people through the weaponization of name-calling, preventing them from acting against evil for fear of being labeled racist or bigot.
The Religion of Tolerance
The third fake religion is tolerance, which Kirk sees as widespread even in weak Christian churches. He makes a crucial distinction: Christians should be compassionate and loving, but they should never tolerate evil.
Psalm 97:10 states that if you love God, you must hate evil. Hating evil demonstrates how much you love the Divine.
Kirk uses the example of biological men competing in women's sports. Society is being told to tolerate mental delusions and reaccommodate everything for people struggling with issues. He compares this to someone demanding two airplane seats for an imaginary friend or an anorexic person demanding liposuction.
The religion of tolerance demands that the strong accommodate the weak in their delusions. Kirk contrasts this with Christianity, which uniquely mandates that the strong use their power to protect those who are vulnerable—not to enable their destruction.
The Worship of Power
The fourth fake religion is the worship of power, manifested both in political elites and what Kirk calls micro-tyrants.
He explains that stupid rules require stupid people to enforce them because good people refuse to enforce stupid rules. During COVID lockdowns, an entire subgroup of people emerged who found religious significance in enforcing mask mandates and arbitrary regulations.
Kirk describes Starbucks baristas and other service workers who suddenly had power over others' breathing and behavior. These people got excited about enforcing dumb rules because it made them important for the first time in their lives.
If Christianity was in these people's lives, they would see themselves as sons and daughters of the Divine, and these rules would be viewed as cruel ways to treat others made in God's image rather than opportunities to exert power.
The Religion of Scientism
The fifth fake religion is scientism, with Anthony Fauci serving as a potential archbishop. Kirk distinguishes between trusting science and trusting scientists—two completely different things.
He traces the heritage of modern science to Bible-believing Christians like Sir Francis Bacon, who invented the scientific method, and Sir Isaac Newton, who wrote more about biblical prophecy than physics. The inquiry into the natural world is uniquely Christian because belief in a logos—a cosmological harmony—makes the universe worth exploring and understanding.
Something changed in the 1800s with German historicists who decided not to understand nature but to remake and dominate it. This is fundamentally different from the Christian scientific tradition.
Kirk argues that the religion of scientism explains the demonic fixation on both abortion and transgenderism. Both represent the will of man exerting itself over God's creation—deciding who lives and dies, and whether someone is male or female.
The MRNA vaccines, hormone blockers for children, and attempts to alter what God naturally created all flow from scientism's dark spirit of contempt toward creation, believing humans can do it better.
Genesis 1-11: The Foundation for Everything
Kirk believes Genesis 1-11 should instruct every Christian politically. These chapters are the shield and sword against the five fake religions.
Genesis 1:1 establishes that creation matters, there's purpose to existence, humans aren't here by accident, there is a God, and we are not Him. This single verse should crush all five pagan religions.
Genesis 1:26-27 addresses what is a human being—the most important question. Secular humanists say humans are mistakes, combinations of cells from Darwinian evolution. Christians believe humans have intentionality and purpose, made in the image of the Divine with souls.
This necessitates human equality, human rights, and that government cannot crush human beings who reflect the divine order.
Genesis also clearly teaches that the heart of man is flawed from birth. Evil comes not from systems and structures but from the human heart. This is crucial because secular religions claim evil comes from Western society, Christianity, and the patriarchy—therefore these must be destroyed to achieve goodness.
Genesis 11 and Political Power
Kirk's favorite political verse is Genesis 11, the Tower of Babel. This chapter appears immediately before God calls Abram, serving as a final reminder about how to build political systems.
The people of Babel (meaning God confuses) said they would make a name for themselves with a tower touching the heavens. Both the American founding fathers and God oppose major cities that want to make themselves gods.
God's response was to scatter and confuse them, offering judgment to warn against building centralized metropolitan governments to honor ourselves rather than God.
This teaches that when building political systems, power must not be centralized. The heart of man will try to terrorize others, so power must be separated with checks and balances and consent of the people—principles embedded in the Constitution.
Fighting End-Times Pessimism
Kirk addresses two categories of defeatism among Christians. First are well-meaning believers who write saying Jesus is coming soon so there's no need to act anymore.
He responds that this is poor theological reading. Even if we're in end times, the day and hour are unknown. If you believe Jesus is coming back soon, you should lean in harder, take more terrain, act more courageously—not retreat and surrender.
Martin Luther said even if the world was ending today, he would plant an apple tree. Ecclesiastes teaches not to just look at the winds before you sow.
The second category includes those saying they wouldn't bring children into this dark world. Kirk finds this preposterous, arguing that children might be the ones to light up the darkness.
His main message: You can be disgusted at the macro level, but you have zero excuse not to act boldly in the micro. Continue building big families, strong churches, and expanding businesses. The enemy wants to paralyze believers—the last best hope for liberty.
The Role of Fatherhood
As a father to seven-month-old daughter Gigi, Kirk says fatherhood changes everything and radicalizes people. It gives increased purpose and meaning.
In the current culture fight, so much involves children. Throughout scripture, evil tyrants filled with dark spirits go after the firstborn and children. Having a child of your own motivates winning and crushing evil people more than ever before.
Confronting the Micro-Tyrants
Kirk explains that during COVID, society discovered an undercurrent of people who find religious significance in enforcing rules and terrorizing others. These micro-tyrants never ran for office or held traditional power positions.
When arbitrary rules emerged, these individuals volunteered to enforce them, becoming incredibly important for the first time. A nineteen-year-old college student suddenly had power to police people's breathing in Starbucks.
The religion of power is attractive as Christianity becomes less popular because these individuals lack the understanding that they're sons and daughters of the Divine. Without that identity, enforcing rules becomes their source of meaning and importance.
The Conservative Answer to Homelessness
When asked about San Diego's conservatorship program for homeless people, Kirk points to Rudy Giuliani's success in New York City as the conservative model.
This falls under the religion of tolerance. Society should not tolerate public degeneracy or depravity on streets, though we should have compassion for individuals and find healing for them.
The activity itself—public nudity, defecation, encampments—should be considered intolerable. The solution is drawing a fine line, making certain activities illegal, and consistently enforcing rules humanely while expanding homeless shelters.
Giuliani found that after a messy nine months, homeless individuals learned and followed the rules, and homelessness decreased dramatically. You get more of what you subsidize—if government provides housing and money without requirements, you get more homelessness, not less.
Society should not have to accommodate clean, safe streets being compromised because of someone else's problems. The same principle applies to the transgender issue.
Fighting DEI in the Workplace
When an HR professional asked for main points against Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion initiatives, Kirk provided a framework of questions.
First: What matters more—things you can change or things you can't change? When creating moral dimensions, things you can change matter more. So why emphasize things you can't change, like race?
Second: Do we believe separating people based on things they can't change is evil and wrong? If segregation is wrong, then DEI's preference for segregation over meritocracy is wrong.
Third: What matters more—melanin or merit? Society must choose whether HR culture will be based on melanin or merit. Currently, merit doesn't matter but melanin does.
Kirk advocates for returning to Martin Luther King Jr.'s ideal of judging people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin.
Protecting Children from Technology
As a new father, Kirk plans to prevent his daughter from having a smartphone until she's seventeen or eighteen. He didn't get a smartphone until twenty-one because they didn't exist yet.
He wants to create an existence of awe and wonder—playing outside, using imagination, not scrolling through TikTok. While he might fail, he feels a moral obligation to try.
Kirk believes America has too much faith in progress. The fruits of modernity are currently poison. Society needs to slow down and return to the roots of classical education.
He plans to limit screen time aggressively and create an existence for his daughter similar to the 1990s. He encourages every parent to do the same despite the challenges.
The Call to Action
Kirk emphasizes that if you haven't lost anything significant in the last couple years, you're a spectator, not in the arena. Participants are judged by how much they've lost, not gained.
While Turning Point USA has gained much, they've also lost friendships, family relationships, and time—battle wounds and scars from fighting. But losing those things has freed them to fight even harder.
At Turning Point USA, they're planting apple trees: starting more high school chapters, college chapters, homeschool hybrid groups, doing more campus tours, church partnerships, and pastor summits.
Christians aren't allowed to be nihilistic or cynical. The battle is already won. It's time to get in the arena and start the fight. While things look troubling, each person must ask: What else can I give? What else can I do as an act of obedience and worship to the Lord?
Video Transcript
foreign hey guys Pastor Jurgen here I'm so glad you're tuning into one of our powerful messages that is guaranteed to absolutely elevate your life to another level at awaken we only want to preach fresh real powerful to help you grow stronger in your walk with God develop your faith so you can take more territory I'm praying that God blesses you and enriches your soul as you listen to this amazing word from God God bless you I want us to give an incredible welcome to Charlie Kirk the amazing amazing man of God come on put your hands together give him a great great Shout [Applause] ing wow come on let's give him one more great shout come on he left these beautiful bride and [Applause] thank you Charlie thank you for taking time away you're a daddy now I am praise God how old is beautiful little Gigi uh seven months she is seven months old and cute as a button so beautiful has that has that how's that impacted you oh it's it changes everything and um if some if you thought I was Radical before nothing radicalizes you like fatherhood I'll tell you what and um what do I mean by that it not only gives you increased purpose and increased meaning but also you know in the culture fight that we're in right now so much involves children there's a reason for that we could talk about that and it's all throughout the scriptures of evil tyrants filled with dark Spirits going after the firstborn going after children and when you have a child of your own it motivates you to want to win and Crush these evil people more so than ever before thank you well thank you so much for taking time away from beautiful Erica and beautiful I I was looking forward to this for quite some time we're also going to awaken Utah next week which I'm really excited about that and you know Jurgen both you and Leanne deserve such great credit you know I speak I really mean this you're being led very well here you are and boldly and courageously and biblically you really are very very kind thank you thank you well I mean that it it really is a time where we're seeing the separation of people that are courageous and cowards and again I speak all across the country and one of the common questions I get Charlie where do I find a pastor I never get that question from people in San Marcos I I just don't and we have some other good friends here Pastor Greg Denim and some other good pastors that are fighting great people Beautiful People beautiful magnificent Warriors but there is something I really special about what God is doing in California I know it seems overwhelming I know there's so much but it's amazing when I visit some of these other states even though they might seem Freer politically they do not have a spirit of boldness or action or community that you have at this church you have a lot to be thankful for you have a lot to be thankful for at this church thank you you know the Bible says that the righteous are as bold as a lion and uh you know it's sadly we didn't you know we're seeing the righteous beginning to rise and when the righteous rise the lion roars I've got got some questions if is that okay if I if I jump you can do whatever you want yes well you know uh where you know whenever the media prints something I always believe the opposite is true right now because they're they're freaking Liars so they tried to they tried to print a couple of hit pieces about how Christianity is dying in America and people are leaving the church in droves that's certainly not not the expense from the pastors that I'm talking to Christianity it to me is is rising in America but I heard you on a podcast talking about the five different religions that are seeking to replace Christianity can you open that up first yeah so there's um we are all inheritors of a Christian tradition whether we like it or not and we should be so thankful for it things that we take for granted that your secular non-religious friends would act as if is common sense protection of children for example or natural rights the idea of borders the idea of private property these all come from a Biblical Christian inheritance and so as Christianity has become less popular in America and certain churches are seeing Church attendance go down this one's increasing because you're not woke and you're biblical and you have great leaders but in certain churches they are seeing it go down and that that's important to note that we have a god-sized shaped hole in our heart and something will always seek to fill it and so if you read the first five books of Moses Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers in Deuteronomy through a very specific lens understanding the context of which It Was Written was a refutation of pagan polytheistic river civilization fake religions fake religions are the norm there's only one true way and that is Jesus Christ we call that Christianity now the way that we teach our children though is it's as if oh there's Christians then there's non-religious this idea of not believing in God is a hyper radical kind of new phenomenon the norm is actually believing in fake gods and so this idea is saying I don't believe in God is very modern and it's actually not very sustainable atheism is a problem but a bigger problem is somebody that creates a fake God or a fabricated version of Christianity uses some of the worship elements tithing offering Community atonement promise of the afterlife appropriates Christian promises and puts them under a fake religion that's actually much more attractive and actually will grow a lot more this idea of convincing wide swaths of people that there is not a divine order or there isn't somebody in charge or some reason for existence actually is probably going to fall flat on his face I'm not saying it's totally unpopular but the greater threat is the five fake religions that are filling the void I I did a whole speech on this earlier in the week I'm writing a long essay on it I might even write a book on it because I I really haven't heard many pastors lean into this because if we then acknowledge that Christianity needs to get more popular I think we can agree with that what are the threats up against it well let's go to one that is really dominating our time Earth worship otherwise known as environmentalism this is not new by the way so if we were to say Charlie can you describe God the god of the Bible to a Layman someone that doesn't understand God is a many things here's the best way I could describe it God is above nature God is moral God is personal and God is Holy those are four characteristics of the god of the Bible you can get to know God God is Holy not profane also God is moral God will tell you what is right and what is wrong God makes judgments but also God is not in nature this was a profound moral breakthrough of Genesis especially because prior to the Hebrews prior to the people of Israel prior to the beginning of the truth developing in written form God was supposed to be found in nature you worship the son you worship the mountain you worship the river that you go seek into nature to go find God the the argument made in Genesis the truth says no no that God is so powerful he spoke nature into existence that that that you do not worship nature you worship God who created nature that is a completely different way of viewing our existence now why does this matter the environmentalists that are really Earth worshipers are doing the very same thing that Gnostic hermeticists did 2000 years ago where they say the world is about and about to end and the tree the Delta smelt the river the cacti they matter more than man so there's a hierarchy okay nature man God we are above nature and Below God that's very important the radical environmentalists do not believe that they believe we are the polluters of nature now one of the things that drives me nuts is when people say well Charlie it is then it's a natural thing to do uh to to you can't prevent somebody's nature we must understand nature but civilization by its definition is us trying to restrain our nature I'll give you a great example you must teach a child manners at dinner the nature is to be rude and to burp and to Belch and to the the idea of manners where does that come from it's kind of a silly example I think it's out of the respect for others because of human equality that they do not want to hear your bodily noises they want you to act in a certain code of conduct now but if we were to say that nature matters we would never have rules Customs codes or Traditions that would restrain you your own Pro your own pre-programmed way of contact conduct at either at a dinner table or otherwise now the when you say that God is above nature this is very important nature is not moral nature is not holy and nature is not personal if you go out in the woods you will not find any three of those things and so one of the fake religions it's so attractive to young people because God did such an amazing job of creating nature it's the closest thing they can try to find to the Divine but the the way the the unattractive element or the pernicious element the evil element is that it is inherently anti-human because when there is a decision that needs to be made they will say we must reduce the Earth's population we must reduce human activity to try to save nature so that's one of five I can keep going you're again on that but Earth worship is one that dominates our time the second one that I think is probably the most dangerous and the most widespread is the religion of anti-racism or the cult of diversity um this is largely this is the most dangerous of all five in the immediate uh and so how does this Manifest this manifests in a lot of different ways hyper focused on Race black only dormitories Grand Valley State University for example Columbia University they have black only graduation ceremonies now Jurgen where they do not allow whites to go to these graduation ceremonies and what's so perplexing about the religion of anti-racism is that this is not being led by Hispanics or blacks that that cleric the the the people the clergy of the religion of anti-racism are white liberal Suburban wine moms and that's what's so strange about it right is that this is not being driven by your average middle class black American these are people that reject Christianity engage in secularism realize they're empty find something that looks like a religion and their meaning then is to hate themselves and they think they can atone for it by donating to BLM or apologizing for how they look that gives them almost a quasi-religious experience if you dive into the BLM code of conduct they basically have taken Christianity and they totally they put it through a lens they say okay we're still gonna meet we're still going to tithe we're still going to have offerings we're still going to say you have original sin you see the cult of diversity and the religion of anti-racism takes this idea of original sin they just say the original sin is not the garden the original sin is your melanin content the original sin is how you look so they take all these elements of Christianity and they pervert it and here's what what's so dangerous is why I think it's the most dangerous is that it's the one that people are the least willing to fight on if I go through the five you'll realize that summer wow that this is the one that paralyzes people and they do it through the weaponization of name-calling and more so than any other time in American history have we seen good people that are afraid to act because of a name that they might be called it is unprecedented we have never seen so many people that know something is evil happening around them and the cost is being called something they wish they would not be called racist bigot let me be very clear racism and bigotry is mostly coming from the left however if you are a racist or a bigot I hope you guys find help with that but you're probably not because we have a supply and demand problem for racism and bigotry in America we are so unbelievably not racist when you see a hate crime hoax most of the time it's a hoax of somebody that is actually trying to create racism out of nowhere we are such a decent not racist country that the incentive structure is to fake your own hate crime so that that's the second one I'm sorry Jurgen you can interrupt me at any time okay I'm loving this okay this is this is like Bible College 101 yes so well I think it's important because pastors and Christians you must know the religions you're competing against right and so anyway that's the second one the the cult of diversity and the religion of anti-racism the third of which is a very broad one but it applies directly to the trans thing which is the religion of Tolerance this is one that I see this is probably the most widespread in Weak Christian churches right where they say we must be tolerant of others that is not correct you could be compassionate and loving you should never tolerate evil period you should never tolerate evil in fact Psalm 97 10 if you love God you must hate evil that hating evil actually shows how much you love the Divine the religion of Tolerance gives us insane pathological ideas that are institutionalized into our culture institutionalized into our system and our code of conduct where good people know it's wrong and they do nothing because they say they must be tolerant for example Thomas the swimmer that competes and wins a NCAA Championship as a man against other women and we say we must do nothing we're track Championship after track Championship are being won by biological men competing against women and so and not just competing but winning and they're they're bullying them and they're antagonistic and they're narcissistic and they're cheaters and all those things and so some you know criticism I receive is well Charlie aren't you a Christian don't you love that person of course we do that person's made in the image of God we should have compassion for that person however the question is then what do you do with somebody that is suffering with a mental delusion if somebody shows up at the airplane ticket counter and says I have an imaginary friend I demand two seats on a plane you would say well I need to charge you for two seats no no it's my truth it's actually I'm a dual personality you say you're insane if someone is anorexic and says I need liposuction you'd say no no you're suffering under a mental delusion if somebody says I'm offended every single time I see other people eat in public do we stop eating in public do we now reaccommodate Society for other people's mental struggles or issues what we are living through is that we now have to change our customs our code of beliefs our behaviors for people that are personally struggling with something that is evil everybody that is wrong it is the tyranny of the minority and we see we're seeing this all over and so the religion of Tolerance tells us that we worship this idea of Tolerance because it's really I think I'm a good person religion when in reality you are weak you're weak and you're weak in the side when you see the strong that are willing to crush the weak and that is the question of a society are the strong willing to use their power to protect those that don't have as much strength only Christianity mandates the strong to use their power to protect those that are not as powerful that is a uniquely Christian principle going back to what I talked about nature though if you look at nature what does nature tell you that the strong gets stronger and the weak die the religion of Christianity says no no no we stand up for the least of these in our society we stand up for those that can't defend themselves okay number four is the worship of power uh this one is very dangerous um there's several examples of this mostly in our political Elite these are people that have made it their life's purpose to dominate others I will get to fauci in the final one because he could qualify there but he he really is the Archbishop of a different religion I'm going to instead I've talked about this religion before at this church but I'll expand on it I'm actually going to go more micro than macro because I could talk about James Comey and I could talk about Andy McCabe and I could talk about majorcus and people that worship power but a different subcategory of the population actually worship power and all of us have experienced it they find their purpose their meaning their Drive in being able to terrorize others we call them micro tyrants so the more stupid rules you have the more stupid people you need to enforce the stupid rules because good people refuse to enforce stupid rules so when during the lockdowns during the covidian Tyranny when we had all these rules all of a sudden an emergence of a new subgroup and undercurrent we never knew existed of people that find their religious significance yes and in in enforcing whether or not you're wearing your mouth ask correctly right and these are people Starbucks Baristas who were never ran for elected office and we've never knew them before they've never had to really be in a position of power for any other reason except they happen to work in Starbucks but because a silly stupid rule all of a sudden came out of nowhere they look around they're like well someone has to enforce it we're going to have this 19 year old North African lesbian Studies major from San Diego State University have all this power to police my breathing when I'm trying to get a cold brew and you go and you try to pick up the cold brew and your mask is a little bit down and that person she whatever pronouns that person uses ridiculous what's happening our society this person gets off and is excited about enforcing the dumb rule because they become unbelievably important for the first time in their life [Music] that's a mic drop moment [Music] okay when if Christianity was in that person's life that rule would not be as important because they would look at themselves as a son or a daughter of the Divine that rule would then be looked at completely differently not as a way to exert Power Authority but instead as well that's probably a cruel way to treat another person made in the image of God right so that the religion of power is very attractive as Christianity is not as popular okay the fifth religion is really the religion of scientism and that's where fauci could be the Archbishop he he's in both the religion of power and the religion of scientism very important never was it about trusting the science it was about trusting the scientists that they liked over the last couple of years those are two completely different things and the religion of scientism um has been around for over 100 years the entire fourth branch of government really came to be with this idea of the Council of experts that there are people that know better than you that committees that you'll never come in touch with can meet privately and they're going to make decisions and they'll be able to get our society closer towards a Utopia this came from Woodrow Wilson there's a long tradition here I don't need to bore you with all the details but we've seen how dangerous that religion of scientism is able to be enforced but what was even more disappointing is not just the people that enforce it Francis Collins wolensky Pfizer astrazatzenica moderna Johnson and Johnson is that the religion of scientism could actually be more broadly into really kind of the idolatry of experts is another way to put it which is the experts have told us to do this even though you know the rule is so silly or you know the rule again is stupid and again so we live through this and again scientists will actually accurate historians are going to go back in time the ones that have any sort of you know courage to find the truth and they're going to be perplexed they're going to say wait a second help me understand this so you lock down all of society and then you allow people to go on airplanes and you hyper enforce the mask policy except of course when they're eating or drinking right because when they're eating or drinking the virus is just in complete suspense and here it stops right when you're not eating or drinking you have to wear the mask properly and you could do that at 35 000 feet with 350 people packed like sardines but the restaurants are closed in Newark New Jersey New Jersey and the restaurants are closed in Los Angeles the two cities you're flying from but shut up and Trust the science and you really have to wonder is it actually about science and this is what's so important we as Christians must understand the heritage of modern science came from bible-believing Christians but it changed I'm going to tell you how it changed Sir Sir Francis Bacon invented the scientific method Sir Isaac Newton wrote more about biblical prophecy in Isaiah than he did even about physics so this idea of the inquiry into the natural world is a very uniquely Christian idea because if you believe that there is a logos a cosmological Harmony to our existence then therefore the universe is worth exploring and understanding those words are very important remember them exploring and understanding something changed in the 1800s with the hegelians and the German historicists where they decided to go a completely different direction they said we do not desire to know about nature we desire to remake and dominate nature that is completely different right that it's not as if we want to try to understand why is it that you know where does wind come from or we know why are temperatures increase or decrease or you know germ Theory or how can we possibly create you know better resistance to um to viruses or antibiotics no no instead they said we want to remake The Creation in our image and the religion of scientism is exactly why there is a demonic pathological fixation on both abortion and the trans issue both of them are the will of man exerting themselves over the creation of God both of them that I get to decide who gets to live and die that I get to decide whether or not you're a man or woman and so the religion of scientism is not about understanding the natural world or saving lives the religion of scientism is that the will of I is going to dominate what the Divine created and we this is exactly what unpl you know played out the last couple years that's the MRNA Gene altering shot that is why they they're trying to put hormone blockers in kids hands is because they're trying to make it possible in the scientific Arena that you can change what was naturally put into place and so science made a complete diversion so I am a big fan of science if it's done under the correct presupposition which is do we believe that there's a logos and we desire to know and understand and stand an awe and wonder of the Beauty and the intricacy of what God created or are you going into science instead with a spirit to alter with a spirit with a spirit of contempt this the religion of scientism is filled with a dark Spirit of I can do it better incredible incredible incredible Charlie uh sorry I took so no are you kidding I was that was that was just exceptional so um all five of those religions actually uh uh have their their Genesis their seed in Genesis 1 to 11 you know Nimrod um was the one who wanted to dominate he was he set up an empirical kind of society where men dominated men God never created man to be dominated by other men um as someone who obviously is very very learned and uh studies tell us Genesis 1 to 11 you I know you've got some wonderful thoughts on that sure I'll uh we have a couple minutes before we go to q a but I think it's the most important part of the Bible I also think it should instruct every Christian politically um Genesis 1 through 11 is the whole ball game so let me just kind of isolate a couple verses okay Genesis 1 1 in the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth that verse means that your creation matters there's a purpose to your existence we're not here by accident and that there is a God and you are not him that's a big deal Genesis 1 20 says that alone would help so many people that alone Genesis 1 1 should crush those five fake religions Genesis 1 1 is the shield and the sword against those five Pagan river civilization religions Now understand that those five religions are not new they're just they're just repackaged manifestations of a unclean Spirit a luciferian desire of all sorts of different type of pagan River civilizations in Egypt and Mesopotamia that the Hebrews were fighting and challenging against you have to understand this idea of monotheism one God is so unbelievably rare in the history of fake religions I mean there's all these fake religions and all of a sudden monotheism comes along and God spoke it into existence we mean God's above nature and not only that but God chooses people not based on characteristics that we think matter Beauty or how they look but instead on moral character God chose Noah because he was a righteous man in his generation the Pagan river civilization of Mesopotamia said the gods would choose based on the best looking now why is polytheism so dangerous by the way and these are all polytheistic in nature Pali meaning many many gods many moralities if you have one God there is one morality you want to prevent man from doing what is right in his own eyes you must restore the promise of monotheism which is Christianity so Genesis 1 through 11 creates that entire moral Foundation Genesis 1 26 127 what is man if I could set every Pastor down I think I could persuade many of them and they say well I don't do politics and I'll say well why are you trying to not be involved in something that human beings are engaged in and I and you have to ask them anyone that has a pastor like this ask them to Define politics they cannot Define politics politics is so simple to Define politics is deciding who gets power and when they get power and how they're able to use the power that's it politics is a question of power in human beings okay you might say well I don't care about that question that is such a silly thing to say because the Bible has a lot to say about who gets power and how they get power and when they get power in fact the Bible says that power should be separate that there should be checks and balances that the people need to have consent if only a country adopted those ideas and put them into their Constitution which by the way is why the Constitution's the greatest political document ever written ever written ever written and so let me just kind of just dwell on that a little bit more is that what is a human being you can choose to answer this question obviously with the secular humanist way or the Christian way the secular humanist says a human being is a mistake a combination of cells darwinian Evolution roll the dice we happen to exist we believe that human beings have intentionality purpose you're made in the image of the Divine you have a soul therefore that that necessitates human equality human rights and that government politics should not be able to crush that human being that that human being is a reflection of the divine order as we know that's such an uh that's a huge concept you could spend the rest of your life just mulling over and praying over so the question of what is a human being is the most important question because the secular humanists all five of those were fake religions would not answer that a human being is made in the image of God they would say that a human being is a mistake or we don't know or that it's a mystery so it is right there so Genesis 1 1 and then Genesis 1 26 and 127 then the next question should be okay we know what a human being is are human beings naturally good this is an unbelievably important question if human beings are naturally good then we must be able to explain all the evil in the world and by the way the secular humanists the scientists the Earth worshipers The Cult of diversity the anti-racism folks they explain evil not in the heart of man not with original sin in the fall they say that evil comes from the systems and the structures that we have inherited therefore we get rid of Evil by getting rid of Western society and getting rid of the patriarchy and getting rid of Christianity if you can't answer where evil comes from then you're going to make really bad political decisions afterwards because they say we must tear all this stuff down and then we'll be able to usher in some form of goodness Genesis says clearly the heart of man is flawed from birth that we know that we are dealing with a broken raw material therefore we should have awe and wonder anytime we do anything right or good in fact we should say wow the fact that we aren't tearing each other apart every single day is a mess of moral advancement let's figure out how we did that yeah Christianity and and then finally and Jurgen you alluded to this my favorite political verse of my political chapter that I wish every Pastor taught correctly is Genesis 11. Genesis 11 is exactly what happens when you try to build a Metro a metropolitan centralized government to honor yourself and to not honor God as it said very clearly there in the people of Babel which means god confuses by the way um it they said that we are going to make a name for ourselves that it will come and touch the heavens both the American founding fathers and our Lord do not like major cities that want to make themselves Gods the American founding fathers believed in decentralized power and so a pastor says I don't believe in politics then why on Earth would God put Genesis 11 right there that's the final thing you read before God calls Abram the last thing you read before that we know is recorded history because for Genesis 1 through 11 you could debate of the exact time we know exactly down to like 100 like 30th year when Abram was called and so history starts in Genesis 12 as we know what Genesis 11 because that final reminder that God has given you the interlude the bridge is hey when you build a political system when you build a city you better believe that that power is not centralized you better believe the heart of man will try to do something to terrorize others so how does God handle it he scatters and confuses them he offers judgment as a way to say to us hey you try to build something in your own your own way World economic Forum globalism great reset that that will be scattered and that will be Dishonored that is a political teaching come on mic drop mic drop mic drop mic drop all right we're going to do question and answers I've got one more question before the question answers but we're going to line up on the sides of the stage and we're going to have Mike's how we're going to do that is Samuel dooth and who else and Mike Finn the the two most handsome men in the church come on it's like El Guapo El Guapo I know this just just just one one question on that um just like in the Days of Elijah there were 450 prophets of Baal 400 prophets of Ashura the Bible says that they were fed by by Jezebel at Jezebel's table meaning that these were government PBS these were government-funded government sustained and they were voices there was one voice crying out for God 850 voices giving everything else uh there was there was an incredible pessimism in fact when Elijah comes to the people he says how long are you going to falter between two opinions they answered him not a word so the the people were really so discouraged they lost their voice I know that you've been talking a little bit lately about a rise in like almost like a pessimistic nihilism hopelessness of the world's gone the evil are in control the darkness what give us one thought like why should we not quit why should we not give up of course so so two thoughts on this and then I do want to get to some questions the first category are really well-meaning Christians that write me emails I have a human laboratory because I host a radio program every day and thank you by the way those that watch on real America's voice and podcasting thank you you guys make our show possible and we work very hard and and you blessed me with your emails your thoughts and your prayers but there are fair amount of emails I get sometimes hundreds a week Charlie Jesus is coming next Thursday stop all this melodrama he's coming soon we don't need to to act anymore and I always respond are you sure it's Thursday I always respond and they don't like it it's not not always a fun exchange but I read every email when I say I read every email at Freedom charliekirk.com I mean it I don't respond to every email but I read everyone and I learn so much about Humanity you read a week you learn you learn more than any pollster could ever tell you so I have a pretty good heart kind of understanding of the heartbeat there so it is it is a bad theological reading a poor theological reading is a better way to say it poor theological reading to say that I am not going to act I am not going to be bold because I believe that we are in the end times you might be right but the day and the hour is unknown I do believe that Jesus is coming back but if you believe this is what's interesting if you believe that Jesus is coming back soon you should have the opposite view you should be leaning in you should be taking terrain you should be pouring in you should be acting more courageously and boldly not retreating and surrendering second the second that I need to talk to is an unfortunate thing that really manifests in the last two weeks where there is just kind of this Charlie I don't think that my grandkids should have kids I would not bring kids into this world I I find this to be Preposterous the great Martin Luther said even if the world was ending today I would plant an apple tree what a beautiful beautiful quote and there's a verse from Ecclesiastes that says something very similar which is you don't you don't just look at the Winds of whether or not you sow it too many people I think check the weather in the stock market before they say I am going to act my main message to every church every campus every believer is that you could be disgusted depressed disgruntled at the macro but you have zero excuse to not act boldly and courageously in the micro you must continue to pour in to build big families to build strong churches to expand businesses the enemy would love nothing more than to create a sense of paralysis amongst Believers the last best hope for Liberty because things look really Bleak on the outside uh of course there's a lot of negativity we could talk about it we could that's actually irrelevant to what I try to end every speech with which is what are you going to do and if you ask the question well Charlie what else am I doing we'll talk about at the end of what you can do it's a very simple question which is if you have not lost anything significant in the last couple of years you're a spectator and you're not in the arena it's that simple you can judge ouch you can judge a participant versus a spectator verse on how much they have lost not how much they have gained now we've gained a lot at Turning Point USA you might say well Charlie what have you lost friendships relationships with family members time we've lost a lot we have the battle wounds and the scars to show it praise God we fought through it and we're leaning in and doing more but I find the people that are doing the most are saying Charlie I'm glad I lost those things because actually God has now freed me up to fight even harder to be able to win thank you Charlie come on put your hands together thank you Charlie thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you what a voice great wisdom great courage great clarity I honestly believe that Charlie is a prophetic voice to our time Samuel are we going with you first Samuel maybe there we go there we go all right here we go first question hi Charlie my name is Kiara we've met before um I I go to San Diego State University with the I go to school with the North African gender studies Barista at my school that you had mentioned earlier and she says hi so my question is related to homelessness for I'm from San Diego but I do live out here near Temecula but in San Diego our mayor Todd Gloria has worked with Gavin Newsom to start a conservatorship program where homeless people would be basically taken off the streets and given to the hands of government where they would be given prescribed medications provided housing provided Psychological Services all at the expense of taxpayers on the surface this program does seem like a good idea to someone who's not like us but my question is what is the conservative answer to addressing homelessness without using big government big brother to take them off the street and address their alcohol drugs and all their problems that's a great question so I mean first of all that program will be way over budget and totally messed up by the California government but that's that's not that's not even going to be my answer we don't have to think too deeply about it because conservative Mayors like Rudy Giuliani they've solved homeless Christ homeless homeless crisis so let's Okay so which one of the five fake religions does this fall under the religion of Tolerance we should not have tolerance for public degeneracy or depravity of our streets we should have compassion for the person and find healing for that person but the activity I have no tolerance for somebody that goes around and exposing others with public nudity or publicly defecating that act should be considered intolerable so what is the conservative solution you should you should draw a very fine line you should make it illegal you have to throw them in prison but yes you should spend time and energy and resources to continually say you can't go there you can't do that this is not your street you can't do that and what New York City found under Rudy Giuliani is yeah it's a messy nine months but you do it humanely you expand the homeless shelters but eventually the homeless learn the rules and they follow the rules and homeless when homelessness went down dramatically you get more of what you subsidize so if what you're telling me right now is the government is going to come in with housing and money you're going to get more homelessness not less homelessness and and finally it's a very complex issue I have spent some time in homeless encampments and going through it there is a there's a group of people there that of course are mentally you know going through struggles and they need help and they need Compassionate Care however this goes to the entire trans thing as well we should not have to accommodate clean streets Safe Streets and a society that functions because of somebody else's problem and so you think about it it's exactly the same thing as the trans thing right that I have to go walk through you know I don't know how San Diego is but downtown L.A where you it all it depresses your mood it brings down your spirit it makes you feel as if we can't solve problems we're not even able to issue care I think it creates a bad standard for our children it creates a messy Society I don't like any of it and so I don't think we should tolerate the act of public encampments all the while having of course a moral prerogative to give the people Compassionate Care that's my answer to that thank you very much absolutely brilliant absolutely brilliant Mikey Finn Mike's Mike hello there we go worship team how's that sound we good all right there we go hi Charlie hi my name is Josie I'm a registered nurse I'm a mom I'm a born and raised Christian immigrant educated my question actually two things when are you running for office [Applause] and then number two so I have two kids one is in elementary and then one is in high school so with the published the the school district right now um with the CRT and then gender equality so the parents right now are being labeled as a domestic terrorists what can you what advice can you give as parents or what can you do to help us fight the our fight because we're kind of losing the battle with the with the um the the school district right now um with the the the books that are in the library right now that we cannot really um um we cannot really you know what I mean so what what can you help what can you do to help us sure uh so the first question I I'm not running for office that's not going to happen but let me tell you what if you guys say Charlie what do you do I I think we're just I'm just beginning if God wants me to continue on this path hopefully a very meaningful and purposeful daily task of educating people millions of people three hours live on radio podcasting I feel called to that I love it we're bringing people to the Lord every day we're bringing people away from these left-wing lies every single day um I have absolute freedom to say what I want whenever I want to say I have zero I mean zero reservations about speaking my mind um and I I see it impacting and while I I rather why I while I appreciate the compliment Charlie you're going to run for office I would rather have a program and an organization Turning Point USA and turning point action all working in harmony to be able to rise up a new generation people to run for office and hold the people that are already elected that have run for office and then be able to be a daily drum beat to hopefully encourage you clarify the lies and challenges so that's what I feel personally called to in this my life and I think and I pray that actually might be a bigger impact than just being a single office holder in Washington D.C I I I I believe that but okay so as far as the CRT you have to fight who cares if they call you a domestic terrorist keep on showing up at these meetings we need to flood these school board meetings and look I I personally am never going to send my daughter to a government School we're homeschooling we're not doing any of this nonsense it's not going to happen Okay we're not doing it but I wanna I wanna say you have a beautiful heart because your kids are being taught outright lies and you could turn that negative into a positive but you have to remind your kids every day that they are lies and if you do this correctly your kids will graduate tougher and more resilient because of the nonsense being thrown at them so while the situation is not ideal I don't have any sort of profound plan to be able to remove CRT from a local school board because even taking over the school board they have ways to dodge it and all that what I can tell you though is that your daily hourly involvement your child's upbringing can create them with a missionary Spirit to be in that high school to separate the LIE from truth and they will be so tough by the time they enter College if they go they probably shouldn't but if they go to college they will be battle ready to fight for righteousness [Applause] so as we're doing this just one way that you could personally Bless Me by the way it's no charge um it's just to follow this QR code And subscribe to our podcast uh we work very hard three podcasts a day in addition to all the travel and turning point USA so you just take out your phone if you do that throughout as we're answering questions it's a way to personally bless us uh and me uh here tonight so I'll make one other plug in a second but thank you for putting that up Jurgen it really is sweet yes awesome here with Grace um so I'm 11 years old in sixth grade and I just want to ask you what you can say to the youth directly on how we can um show wisdom in these schools and show um how can we fight for our battle in this generation as well that's hope for the future right there look I I when people tell me to stop having chill you know stop having children I say really they're your hope they say I don't want to bring kids into this dark world I say well maybe they might light it up yeah the fact that you're 12 years old and you're even dwelling over this uh shows how dark our times are about how necessary you are first get involved with Turning Point USA immediately and we'll help you out because we do this better than anybody else it's our bread and butter to Empire Empower young Patriots to fight and to scrap for Liberty even in the most hostile environments will help build the community you'll find friends for a lifetime it's what we do it's my heart for the nation's young people praise God we've had hundreds of thousands of lives individually changed at Turning Point USA it's been a move of God but let me just tell you something that I want to really zero in on where you said wisdom and I'm glad you said wisdom that means somebody educated you there's a difference between wisdom and knowledge okay and there is no wisdom in the academy there's no wisdom in universities what is the difference knowledge is facts and figures what's the capital of California who's the governor all that's knowledge okay you could fill a young person's mind with knowledge but their devoid of wisdom wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change wisdom means that if you teach it today it will be true 100 years from now a thousand years from now as it says in the scriptures where does wisdom come from from the fear of the Lord comes wisdom therefore if there's no God there's no wisdom which is why there's no wisdom at most universities because there is no God and so continue to dwell on that question of what is wise and here's how you just asked that question will this be true 100 years from now if the answer is yes you have found something wise if the answer is no it matters but it's not as important we must steep our children in wisdom how do you do that you read the great books you study Socrates Plato Aristotle Aquinas Augustine Hume Burke Machiavelli properly you know you study the great the thinkers of the West what they were right about what they were wrong about and then of course the scriptures and this is why the founding fathers I believe people say Charlie how do we restore America the founding fathers gave us a road map we just have to take a U-turn and go back to the starting point of the promise of the Declaration and the Constitution the more I study the framers and the founders the more thankful I am to God that we live in this country I can't tell you how profound I believe divinely inspired I truly believe that you look at Genesis 1 1 Mount Sinai the resurrection of Jesus and then you could go fast forward in time the creation of America are some of the most important moments in history and of course the resurrection is much more important than the creation of America but there's nothing quite like America in the history of self-government why it's because the founding fathers wrote everything based on things that will always be true not but things that happen to be true then they did not base the Declaration or the constitution based on what the weather was like today they based it on principles of Eternal importance and that should always be our true north unbelievable thank you hey Charlie I'm just I'm just so impressed man at the remarkable life you've lived so far um but you did touch on a very simple hierarchy earlier you said God man nature and I'm just curious what what would be your explanation as to why there is such a such an attack on the seemingly infinite human hierarchies that we have in the world yeah that's a really important question so uh they say they want egalitarianism but in reality they want to be on the top of the hierarchy these are people that have the religion of power they won't always tell you um Joseph Stalin I believe was one of the most evil people ever to live Joseph Stalin was a very interesting person I could talk about Stalin at length if you haven't studied Stalin you should but was so perplexing is he was a Seminary Student and he was number one in the Seminary he knew the scriptures he knew God and he decided to challenge him uh and that that's very sick if you think about it I really believe Stalin had the spirit of Lucifer knowing god and rebelling and trying and by the way he was a miserable paranoid man Stalin created a movie he inherited Lenin's movement but he always said egalitarianism equality that's not true Style at a hundred thousand personal armed guards because he was afraid of somebody going after him it was it was equality of poverty for you and the spoils and the wealth for me so the reason I want to disrupt the hierarchy is they want to be in charge why because Stalin aside because he didn't believe the promise of the scriptures obviously but he did he did outwardly want to challenge God is that they believe this is all there is and they believe this is the whole ball game if you look at your existence that there is no eternity and there is no judgment then you can get to yourself to the belief of I better collect as much stuff and as much power and make myself like God today that is what motivated Pharaoh that is what motivated every Caesar King and Tsar Alexander the Great but if you then believe a little bit that even no matter how many land spoils you know pieces of gold or silver that you might accumulate that there is a God above you that should then restrain your action just from temporal material accumulation why are they trying to get rid of the hierarchies not that they don't believe in them is that they want to be on top of the hierarchy these people are driven to become tyrants unbelievable unbelievable have we got time for one more one more questions okay okay all right yeah it's interesting I I have to get on a nationwide prayer call with the great Jack Hibbs and so I have a very specific for the Nashville shooting of a very specific end time but I'm going to go right up against it and then push it a little bit even beyond that so we'll do another is that okay another question one one get your best one ready over there Mike this is Katie um I'm in the HR industry and I'm in the hiring space and in a few weeks I have the opportunity to speak at an HR event where I'm pushing against Deni which is diversity equity and inclusion and I'm I'm encouraging other HR leaders to disrupt hiring practices based upon race and gender if you could give me one to three main points of uh what you why you think why de and I should stop what would those be well first of all God bless you I mean with the the essence of your question is um like trying to reclaim some of the most totalitarian Corners I I can't tell you how much damage HR departments have done to Once functioning companies here's a couple questions you can ask your fellow you know HR commissars you're not that fellow but you know there happen to be somewhat let's just say um Soviet so the um question what matters more things you can change or things you can't change ask them that question when we're trying to create a moral Dimension or a landscape what matters more things you can change or things you can't change they will answer that correctly because they don't really really realize it they'll say oh things you can change well then say why are we emphasizing things you can't change like race can't change your race so why does it matter number two the the next important question is do we believe that separating base separating People based on things they can't change is evil and wrong they should say yes say like segregation is wrong if they say yes then say okay then the spirit of Dei puts a preference of segregation above that of a meritocracy that's the final thing which is wouldn't it be beautiful if we restored the ideal that I don't know existed 10 years ago in HR departments that Merit character commitment matters a lot more than melanin so the final question I would ask with you is you have to ask your people and you don't have to be confrontational just be clear what matters more melanin or Merit melanin or Merit you got to choose guys are we going to have an HR culture based on melanin or Merit because right now we are saying Merit does not matter but melanin matters and then finally you should say I personally find it objectionable and wrong that we are going back into a trend where all of a sudden we think that Race Matters and decisions should be based on race I want to live in America where Martin Luther King said very clearly I don't care about the color of your skin but the content of your character that's what I would say at your confidence oh my my my my my my how many people can see you at the Spirit of Solomon resting on a young man over here wow Mikey you got one more questions final question all right hi Charlie um so since you are a new father I was wondering a personal question but if you're a kid in um you know homeschool what are you going to do with the internet phones and the newly established Ai and its biased information it gives kids high schoolers for papers and all that type of stuff okay so what am I going to do about internet like phones and AI with your so uh we're gonna do our best to not have our daughter have a smartphone until she's 17 or 18. um and you can laugh all you want I didn't get a smartphone until I was 21 because they didn't exist until I was 21. I'm gonna try my best and I might fail to create an existence of awe and wonder of playing outside and using your imagination not scrolling through tick tock and I might fail you might be able to pull this up 14 years from now and I might totally fail um I I believe that I believe that we in America have way too much faith in progress I think that the amount of the fruits of modernity currently are poison and we have to slow down and go back to the roots of classical education and I feel an obligation and we're going to be Hawks with this and every time oh yes my mic went off screen time all that we're going to limit all of it and we're going to try to create an existence for our daughter of the same one that I grew up in in the 1990s and it's going to be a challenge and it's going to be a battle but um I believe a moral obligation to do that and I encourage every other parent to do the same amen amen amen amen please say while I sing absolutely you can if if you feel moved please follow the QR code I know it sounds silly but it's a way that we actually fight back against big Tech censorship it's how we're able to say not canceled I know it's like oh Charlie come on it's self-promotional it is but it also could bless you Jurgen you send me beautiful notes about our podcasts at times and that really blesses me this whole conversation will be re-aired actually on this QR code uh coming up on the weekend if you're okay with that you're again I imagine yes absolutely 100 and let me just end with this note which is I I did tease this so you probably some of you probably tonight and I've seen you because I watched the audience probably one out of every 30 of you you kind of cross your arms and say I've kind of heard this before Charlie I've done everything that has been asked of me I watched Tucker Carlson I bought the pillow I've done everything that has been asked of me who bought the pillow promo code Kirk by the way and those slippers are terrific I have relief factor I reverse mortgage my home I have that thing that goes up the stairs Charlie I've done everything that's been asked of me my challenge for you here tonight because you already go to an excellent Church you have a fabulous Pastor you have a great Community is to dig deeper pray fast this Easter season and ask the Lord to say what else can I give what else can I do maybe you've gone off the path a little bit you need to recommit maybe you've gone so far and extended you need to pull back and reevaluate if it's the best use of your time all of those are good ways to look at it but the broader the question here is yes things look troubling but what am I going to do as an act of obedience and worship to the Lord here's what I'm here's what we are going to do at Turning Point USA we're starting more High School chapters we're planning that at that apple tree we're starting more College chapters we're starting more homeschool hybrid groups we're doing more campus tours we're doing more Church Partnerships we're doing more Pastor Summits we are planting that apple tree today even though it might look like the world is ending because guess what we as Christians we're not allowed to be nihilistic we're not allowed to be cynical the battle is already won so it's time for us to get to the arena and start the fight God bless you guys thank you so much come on how good was that would you put your hands together come on come on come on wow what an amazing word I hope you enjoyed that as much as I did Hey listen for more information about our church go to www.awakenchurch.com or subscribe to our YouTube channel if you haven't already and download our app it is amazing it is chock full of incredible messages this information from upcoming upcoming you can even support our ministry if you feel so inclined we loved having you with us today we look forward to seeing you again God bless you live a life that is transformative bye for now [Music] thank you