I Discovered Even More Lies In Erika Kirk’s Interview - They All Told A Different Story!

[00:00] It's pretty insane that every person at

[00:01] TPUSA told us a different story of what

[00:04] happened on 10th of September and even

[00:06] before that. You'd think that at least

[00:08] over time as they speak about it over

[00:10] and over again, they would stick to

[00:12] their stories, but nope. It's not going

[00:15] to come as surprise that we are

[00:17] discovering new lies and new

[00:18] inconsistencies in Erica Kirk's speeches

[00:21] and interviews. Last night, Candace

[00:23] Owens episode was explosive in itself

[00:26] because she discovered more lies that

[00:28] came from Erica. So, of course, I had to

[00:30] help out and find even more. And those

[00:32] are interesting because they involve

[00:33] Charlie Kirk's necklace, Mikey McCoy

[00:36] phone calls, Frank Turk's testimony

[00:37] about Erica's heroic behavior in the

[00:39] hospital that day. Of course, he called

[00:41] it heroic. We call it suspicious. So,

[00:44] let's dive right in. You remember in one

[00:46] of my recent episodes, I talked about

[00:48] the same clipping from a New York Times

[00:51] article that Candace did. It's this one.

[00:53] The president's tone, she said, was soft

[00:55] and embracing. I could tell he wanted to

[00:57] hug me. Others have responded in the

[00:59] same manner to Mrs. Kirk, now left to

[01:02] care for a three-year-old daughter and

[01:04] one-year-old son. That new life, Mrs.

[01:06] Kirk said, is actually the least

[01:09] traumatizing thing for me since she

[01:11] herself had been raised by her mother

[01:13] after their parents divorced when she

[01:14] was young. I said this was weird. This

[01:17] is only 8 days after Charlie's

[01:18] unaliving. The sentiment and this choice

[01:20] of words, not to mention that this was a

[01:22] sitdown interview. So I got a free trial

[01:25] subscription to New York Times

[01:26] suspecting that there is going to be

[01:28] much more weird stuff in there in that

[01:30] article. See at the beginning those

[01:33] first week's interviews and testimonies

[01:35] are raw, fresh, more bold. Now that they

[01:38] know we are on to them, they are much

[01:40] more careful with what and how they say

[01:42] things. That's when we catch them lying

[01:45] somewhere in between. So let's read bits

[01:47] of this interview together. I'm allowing

[01:50] myself to feel this so deeply, she said

[01:52] without medication, without alcohol. The

[01:54] Lord is giving me discernment. She sat

[01:56] in workout clothes with her legs folded

[01:59] under her on a couch in a rented

[02:01] condominium in Scottsdale, Arizona. Her

[02:04] husband often used this condo as a waist

[02:06] as a way station between their home in a

[02:09] gated community outside Scottsdale and

[02:11] the Turning Point USA headquarters in

[02:13] East Phoenix. Around her neck was the

[02:15] pendant of St. Michael that her husband

[02:18] was wearing when he was shot. The medics

[02:21] had ripped it from his body while

[02:23] attempting to stop the bleeding. A trace

[02:25] of blood remained in the crevice of the

[02:28] cross. The medics had ripped it. Are we

[02:32] sure? Because I've seen that necklace

[02:34] with my own eyes in 4K flying off of

[02:36] Charlie's neck. People first thought it

[02:38] was some cables, but it was confirmed

[02:40] later that the chain broke upon impact.

[02:43] There was not medical team working on

[02:45] Charlie at UVU as soon as he went down.

[02:48] It was his security team who are

[02:50] supposed to be trained to perform first

[02:52] aid, but that's not the same as medics.

[02:55] And by the time Charlie got to the

[02:57] hospital, his necklace was allegedly not

[02:59] on him anymore. Why am I hyperfocusing

[03:02] on that? Ah, nothing. Just that Frank

[03:04] Turk told us a completely different

[03:06] story. Take a listen.

[03:08] >> When we were about to leave, we finally

[03:10] got access to the car again. And Erica

[03:13] was asking for a necklace that Charlie

[03:15] was wearing. It's a cross necklace and

[03:17] had some medallions on it. And when I

[03:19] went into the backseat of that car, I

[03:21] pulled my bag out and that necklace was

[03:23] attached somehow just kind of draped

[03:26] over the bag.

[03:28] So I gave it to Mikey and I said,

[03:29] "Mikey,

[03:32] I want you to give this to Erica." It

[03:36] was a comfort to

[03:36] >> So which one is it? Was it the medics

[03:39] that took the necklace? Was it Frank

[03:41] Turk climbing into the backseat of the

[03:43] car, grabbing it from there,

[03:44] miraculously having it wrapped around

[03:46] his bag? See, there is one more detail

[03:48] in the story that he talks about, and

[03:50] this is all one evening. They are all at

[03:52] the hospital. They waited for Erica, who

[03:54] Turk said got there at around 400 p.m.

[03:57] They are all there, including Charlie's

[03:59] parents. And this is how he describes

[04:02] what was happening.

[04:03] >> Meanwhile, the car that we came in had

[04:05] been

[04:07] considered a crime scene for whatever

[04:08] reason. I don't know why. We were had

[04:11] nothing to do with the crime, but we

[04:12] couldn't get anything out of it. So, I

[04:14] couldn't get couldn't get my wallet out,

[04:15] couldn't get my bag out, couldn't get my

[04:17] computer out. Charlie was actually

[04:19] laying over my computer bag on the way

[04:22] to the hospital. And so, we really

[04:24] couldn't do anything or go anywhere. We

[04:26] were just there to support. Meanwhile,

[04:28] the hospital staff brought us food.

[04:30] Anyway, when Erica did come down into

[04:34] the hall where I was,

[04:37] she [snorts]

[04:41] She came up and she said he loved you

[04:43] and he was doing what he wanted to do

[04:46] and then we just held one another and

[04:49] she

[04:51] expressed that she wanted to keep

[04:52] Charlie's legacy going.

[04:54] >> So was the car a crime scene or it

[04:56] wasn't? Did they have access or they

[04:58] didn't? Or maybe one hour they did, the

[05:01] next hour they decided, oh maybe not.

[05:02] Maybe. Which one is it? They couldn't

[05:04] get the stuff out of the car or they

[05:06] could freely climb in and get strictly

[05:08] just the jewelry because it can't be

[05:10] both. Either the necklace was locked up

[05:12] in the car as evidence together with

[05:14] Frank's wallet and laptop or the medical

[05:17] team ripped it off Charlie's body or

[05:19] there is something else that happened

[05:20] with it. See, if that necklace broke on

[05:22] an impact when Charlie was fired at,

[05:24] then it's evidence. It should be in the

[05:27] police's possession, right? So, how is

[05:30] it possible that we have multiple

[05:31] stories of how the necklace ended up on

[05:33] Erica's neck? Because yes, she's wearing

[05:35] it now. And also, what do you mean

[05:37] Erica? So, Frank hugged him and what

[05:40] came out of her mouth wasn't, "Oh, I

[05:43] can't believe it. What am I going to do

[05:44] now? How did this happen? Who did this?"

[05:47] No, she says, "I want to keep Charlie's

[05:50] legacy going." Did that really happen?

[05:53] Did she really say that? And I noticed

[05:55] another thing. It's a trend whenever

[05:57] they speak at the beginning in in their

[05:58] interviews, they have this need of

[06:00] saying, "We had nothing to do with the

[06:03] crime. We didn't do it. We're not

[06:05] guilty." Everyone is just like casually

[06:08] throwing it in there. I don't have a

[06:09] need of saying it. I don't know anybody

[06:11] that would have a need of saying it.

[06:14] Why are they saying it? Notice when they

[06:16] all speak about those events, it reminds

[06:17] me of reading a book. It's not natural.

[06:20] It's not organic. and thee ascended and

[06:23] spoke his legacy shall continue. I know

[06:26] not like this this level but I keep

[06:28] getting this from Erica Frank Andrew

[06:30] Kovette. Either they are all advanced

[06:32] speakers or this was practiced and

[06:34] written to sound much more heroic,

[06:36] dramatic and elevated. They all speak

[06:39] like Tyler Robinson in those messages to

[06:43] his BFF

[06:45] boyfriend fairies forever. Now, I want

[06:47] to bring up the timeline that Candace

[06:49] created and talked about on her show.

[06:51] Just quickly, September 8th, Charlie

[06:53] Kirk's schedule, local time, 10 to 11,

[06:55] Charlie appears from his home studio

[06:57] live on Charlie Kirk show, Salam

[06:58] Network. 3 p.m. to 4 p.m. Erica woke

[07:01] Charlie up from his nap for his Fox News

[07:03] hit. According to Erica, 400 p.m. to

[07:06] 5:00 p.m., Charlie Kirk appears from his

[07:08] home studio on Ingraham's angle. The

[07:11] show is shot from Charlie's home studio.

[07:13] This is also the day the article appears

[07:15] in Jezebel regarding a witch's curse. So

[07:17] like someone paid on Etsy to some witch

[07:20] to curse Charlie apparently. 5:24 p.m.

[07:24] Erica arrives home per her alibi given

[07:27] to Candice. 6:06 p.m. Erica claims she

[07:30] made dinner for Charlie after arriving

[07:32] home. But where was she? That's the

[07:35] question. 8:00 p.m. Per Frank Turk.

[07:38] Charlie went to dinner with family and

[07:40] then went on a walk with Frank around

[07:42] 800 PM. He also says he saw Charlie

[07:44] earlier in that day at Charlie's home,

[07:47] but unclear when Frank says this was a

[07:49] long walk to figure out how to talk to

[07:51] students about the resurrection of

[07:53] Christ and also about family. This seems

[07:56] implausible. Source Megan Kelly show

[07:59] episode 1153.

[08:02] 9:00 p.m. Charlie is seen with his

[08:04] bodyguard and accompanied by a tall man,

[08:07] not Frank Turk, spoke with his neighbor

[08:10] for a few minutes about his upcoming

[08:12] tour and said hello to her dog. Who was

[08:14] this man? Some tall guy next to him.

[08:18] So on September 8th, RCH72

[08:22] leaves Colorado is the plane leaves

[08:24] Colorado Springs for Tucson on the

[08:26] ground for less than five hours. It then

[08:29] takes off at 4:19 p.m. local time before

[08:33] turning off its transponder and 4:32

[08:36] p.m. to go to Fort Wuka airspace. Then

[08:39] September 9th,

[08:42] there is a lot going on on September 9th

[08:44] and I discovered a lot of things. 1 p.m.

[08:47] Charlie Kirk appears on the Will Kane

[08:50] show from his TPS USA office studio. 3

[08:53] p.m. Erica says Charlie had the call

[08:55] with Josh Hammer around this time. Erica

[08:57] told me she was getting her nails done

[08:59] around this time.

[09:02] Okay.

[09:03] 3:54 p.m. Charlie sends out It's weird

[09:06] because didn't didn't Andrew Kovet say

[09:09] that they spend all day in the office.

[09:12] Yes, he did together. 3:54 p.m. Charlie

[09:15] sends out texts regarding leaving the

[09:17] pro little hats land cause. 6 p.m. local

[09:21] Josh Hammer and Rabbi have a Zoom call

[09:23] with Charlie. 7 PM onward, Charlie will

[09:27] have dinner with the priest Erica and

[09:29] his children. He will also send out a

[09:31] text message to both Dan Flaud and

[09:33] Andrew Kulv indicating that they are

[09:35] going to Other notes that Candace put

[09:38] here say Erica says Charlie was at the

[09:41] office all day and they met up for

[09:42] dinner with a friend to pray for them.

[09:45] This slightly disputes what Andrew said

[09:47] via text to Paramount Tactical. Andrew

[09:49] Coven wrote that both Erica and Charlie

[09:51] were at the office all day. Erica never

[09:53] made this claim. Erica Erica claims she

[09:56] was doing her nails. And then Erica

[09:58] tells Megan Kelly she had a priest pray

[10:01] over them for the Jezebel curse article

[10:04] dinner at a restaurant. Erica and the

[10:06] kids both confirmed present at the

[10:08] dinner by multiple locals. They are with

[10:10] their kids. So obviously we know Erica

[10:12] lied twice in this instant. This is the

[10:14] first time. It's interesting because we

[10:17] always we have I mean I still I have

[10:20] unbelievable amounts of death threats.

[10:22] My kids have kidnapping threats, death

[10:25] threats. Our whole team has death

[10:27] threats. We we knew that there was

[10:29] always going to be a threat. But Charlie

[10:31] and I always we promised each other we

[10:33] would never live in fear.

[10:34] >> And he would say, "If they're going to

[10:35] get me, they're going to get me." But he

[10:37] was not messaging people the day before

[10:40] saying, "I'm going to be murdered.

[10:42] They're coming after me. someone's going

[10:44] to kill me. He didn't he didn't say

[10:46] that. And I have his cell phone.

[10:48] >> So, the obvious lie is that he didn't

[10:50] message anybody that that night about

[10:52] being afraid they were going to. He did.

[10:55] She then lied to Candace again, saying

[10:57] that that message was sent from a

[11:00] different app, not iMessage. That's why

[11:02] Erica didn't know about it. But Candace

[11:05] went back to the source and confirmed

[11:06] that those messages were sent via

[11:08] iMessage. It looks super shady already.

[11:10] Well, I am going to pack on top of that.

[11:13] Look at that.

[11:14] >> Didn't say that. And so, what I do know

[11:18] is that we believe in the power of

[11:19] prayer. And what I do know is that we

[11:21] believe in our sovereign God. And what I

[11:24] do know is that that night before we did

[11:27] what we usually did before tours, we

[11:30] said our prayer and we asked the Lord to

[11:32] protect us and we asked the Lord that

[11:35] his will be done. That's what we did.

[11:38] >> That's all they did. They prayed and

[11:40] hoped to God everything will be fine.

[11:42] Well, here is what she said in the New

[11:44] York Times interview about the same

[11:46] evening. On the evening before, Mr. Kirk

[11:48] traveled to Utah. He and his wife met

[11:51] for dinner in the Phoenix area with a

[11:53] friend who was a faith leader. The

[11:55] purpose was to pray together over Mr.

[11:57] Kirk's imminent tour of roughly 20

[12:00] compasses. Both Mrs. Kirk and the friend

[12:03] were worried. Mr. Kirk, whose

[12:06] appearances on college campuses drew

[12:08] ardent support on and fierce

[12:10] condemnation, had received numerous

[12:12] death threats over the past year and had

[12:14] been traveling with the security team

[12:16] for months. Over dinner, Mrs. Kirk

[12:18] implored her husband to start wearing a

[12:21] bulletproof vest. When he demured, the

[12:25] friend suggested that Mr. Kirk speak

[12:27] behind bulletproof glass.

[12:29] Why not to say it in all the other

[12:31] interviews? Why not to say that she was

[12:33] asking him to wear a vest? Why after

[12:35] this interview they make it seem like

[12:37] they just left it to God and didn't look

[12:40] back and why were they so insanely

[12:42] worried that night? Obviously not

[12:44] because of some witches from Etsy. Like

[12:46] Candace said, it all points out at

[12:48] little hatwearing donors. Charlie said

[12:50] that day that he is leaving the pro

[12:54] cause then has a call with Josh Hammer.

[12:58] Then texts Andrew Kvette and Dan Floa

[13:00] they are going to kill me. And then he

[13:02] has a dinner with his wife and the

[13:04] priest. And both of them are like,

[13:05] "Well, maybe you better wear a vest or

[13:07] have a bulletproof glass tomorrow at

[13:09] UVU." All of this allegedly, of course,

[13:12] but this timeline, at least for now, is

[13:14] the most compelling one I've seen in

[13:15] this investigation. Here is a bit of

[13:17] candies for you guys. There's nobody

[13:19] that can explain it better.

[13:20] >> I don't buy any of these stories. I

[13:21] don't buy Charlie suddenly need advice

[13:23] from a pastor, a priest, and a rabbi. It

[13:25] sounds ridiculous, okay? I think

[13:27] something was happening. I think Charlie

[13:29] was fearful of his life. don't think it

[13:31] was about a Jezebel curse. I think

[13:32] everything that was going on in his day

[13:34] reveals that Charlie was stressed out

[13:37] about pressure that was being put on him

[13:39] regarding Israel and he was instructing

[13:42] to his team that he was done with them

[13:43] and he was happy to lose money. So it

[13:45] would not track that then after dealing

[13:48] with this having a call with the rabbi

[13:49] who should be asleep in Israel but is

[13:51] staying up to give you advice on a

[13:53] debate like this couldn't have been a

[13:54] freaking email. It would it would follow

[13:56] that he then sent to Andrew Kovvat and

[13:59] Dan Flood that they meaning the were

[14:03] going to kill him. That's what I

[14:05] believe. That's what I believe happened

[14:06] on that day. And as far as why Erica is

[14:10] lying and covering for Dan Flood, we're

[14:12] going to we're going to need to get to

[14:13] the bottom of that. These are not little

[14:14] lies. These are huge lies. These are big

[14:16] lies. She's covering up for bad people.

[14:18] >> You know what I'm also wondering about?

[14:20] Kenny spoke about her dreams. Everyone

[14:22] made fun of her. Then she spoke about

[14:24] Charlie who was saying that he was a

[14:27] time traveler. It was just like an

[14:28] innocent friendly conversation when they

[14:30] were at the meeting and he was she goes,

[14:32] "I'm an alien. I don't fit in here." And

[14:34] he's like, "I'm a time traveler traveler

[14:36] and I came to find you." People also

[14:38] made fun of that. But it's perfectly

[14:40] acceptable and super [clears throat]

[14:42] real to people that Erica Kirk said they

[14:46] believed that some Etsy witch put a

[14:49] curse on Charlie and that's why they did

[14:51] the dinner and they prayed and they I

[14:54] don't know if they did some kind of

[14:56] sance I whatever they did this is fine

[14:59] this no nobody's crazy in this story

[15:01] right okay but did everyone close to

[15:04] Charlie knew what was coming on that

[15:06] evening of 9th of September when he was

[15:08] being asked to wear a vest or speak

[15:09] behind the bulletproof glass. Were they

[15:11] maybe speaking about what they would do

[15:13] if the worst happened? That's why they

[15:16] keep pushing this narrative that Mikey

[15:18] McCoy was instructed and trained by

[15:20] Charlie that if that happened, if the

[15:22] worst happened, he is supposed to pick

[15:24] up the phone immediately and inform

[15:26] Erica. Hi, Erica. You know, in the

[15:29] article, she recalls Mrs. Kirk was

[15:31] sitting in her mother's hospital room at

[15:33] 11:23 a.m. That's the local time in

[15:35] Phoenix. when she was uh when she saw

[15:37] the number of her husband's longtime

[15:38] assistant, Michael McCoy, appear on her

[15:41] phone. In retrospect, she said she knew

[15:44] the words he's been before Mr. McCoy

[15:48] screamed them. Okay. And I want to

[15:51] remind you his call log that we were

[15:53] presented say something like 12:23, that

[15:57] would be 11:23 Phoenix time, Charlie

[16:00] Kirk shot at Utah Valley University.

[16:02] 12:24 Charlie is brought to the SUV by

[16:06] security. TW 12:24

[16:08] Mikey McCoy calls Elizabeth McCoy, his

[16:11] wife. They stay on the phone for 10

[16:13] minutes. 12:24 Blake Nefusa producer

[16:16] calls his mother. 45 second call. 12:26.

[16:20] So not 12:23. 12:26 Mikey McCoy adds

[16:24] Erica Kirk to the call with Elizabeth.

[16:26] Three-way lasts two minutes. 12:28. Mike

[16:30] Mikey drops Erica from the call. Did

[16:33] Erica say 12:23 or 11:23 where she was

[16:37] just to be more dramatic. And from the

[16:39] call logs, we see the conversation

[16:41] lasted 2 minutes. After that, it said in

[16:44] Candace's timeline, Erica ran out into

[16:46] the parking lot and collapsed screaming.

[16:49] I find this reaction very weird.

[16:50] [clears throat]

[16:51] And I know that to some of you this

[16:53] would seem like the most normal reaction

[16:54] because it's at least a sad emotion

[16:56] pouring out. But if someone called me

[16:58] with news like that about my loved one,

[17:01] I'd start crying, but I'd be running to

[17:03] get to them immediately. I wouldn't run

[17:05] out to the parking lot and collapse and

[17:08] start screaming. Unless that someone who

[17:10] called me told me that person that was

[17:12] hurt actually didn't make it, then I'm

[17:14] collapsing. Then I'm like, you know,

[17:16] leave me alone. I'm staying here

[17:17] forever. And we know there was no way

[17:19] for Mikey to know that, right?

[17:23] Well,

[17:24] >> they just shot Charlie. They just

[17:27] Charlie.

[17:31] >> God help him.

[17:34] >> If he knew, maybe everyone knew. Who

[17:36] knows? Nobody. But as usual, I want to

[17:39] know what you guys think. Do you think

[17:40] Erica is lying? And if she is, is it in

[17:42] good faith or to cancel something

[17:44] sinister? Let me know in the comments.

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