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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeJD Vance Reveals How Donald Trump Destroyed Iran's Nuclear Program Without Losing A Single American Life
JD Vance provides an inside account of one of the most significant diplomatic achievements in recent history. The Vice President details how President Trump destroyed Iran's nuclear program through precise military action, then brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Iran within hours, all without a single American casualty or boots on the ground. Vance describes the tense 24-hour period when the ceasefire nearly collapsed, Trump's explosive public intervention that salvaged the deal, and how this operation represents a complete reset of a generation of failed American foreign policy in the Middle East. He also discusses the administration's domestic priorities, including mass deportations and the push to pass legislation eliminating taxes on tips and overtime.
A Historic Achievement in the Middle East
Vice President JD Vance joined Charlie Kirk to discuss one of the most remarkable diplomatic and military operations in recent American history. The Trump administration successfully destroyed Iran's nuclear program, brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Iran, and accomplished all of this without losing a single American life or deploying ground troops. Vance emphasized that all credit goes to President Trump, who had a clear vision from the outset: destroy the Iranian nuclear program and then get out of the Middle East.
"He wanted to destroy the Iranian nuclear program. He did that militarily. Of course, we tried to do it diplomatically, but the Iranians were not willing to play ball," Vance explained. "But he also wanted us to be in a very narrow, very defined operation where once we solved the problem, he wanted to get the hell out and not have to deal with the Middle East anymore."
The 24-Hour Diplomatic Sprint
Vance provided a detailed timeline of the ceasefire negotiations that culminated in the agreement. On Monday morning, he entered the Oval Office to find that both the Israelis and Iranians had made contact with the administration. The Israelis communicated that they were exhausted, had achieved their military objectives, and did not want to continue fighting. The Iranians, meanwhile, indicated their planned counterattack would be largely symbolic and even telegraphed exactly where they would strike to help the U.S. protect its troops.
"The president basically said let's figure out what the Iranians are actually doing. Let's obviously do everything that we can to save our troops and then after the attack, let's reconvene and see where we are," Vance recounted. Around 3:00 PM, President Trump gathered his senior team and assessed the situation. The Iranians had clearly not intended to cause casualties, and the Israelis had confirmed they achieved their objectives. Trump's decision was immediate: get a ceasefire done.
Three hours later, the ceasefire was accomplished. Vance was coordinating the final details while traveling to do an interview with Bret Baier, and President Trump finalized the agreement while Vance was on air. "A really big day for America, a really big day I think for Israel and Iran, but just a big day for world peace," Vance declared.
Trump's Explosive Intervention
The ceasefire nearly fell apart the following morning. Vance described waking up to discover that what seemed secure the night before was now in jeopardy. At approximately 6:30 AM, he genuinely feared the entire agreement would collapse. What followed was one of President Trump's most memorable public interventions.
Charlie Kirk noted that he had never seen President Trump as publicly angry as he was that morning, when the president essentially dropped an expletive heard around the world directed at both Israel and Iran, demanding an immediate end to hostilities. Vance explained the situation: "Ceasefires are always a little bit of a mess, Charlie, and we don't even know fully exactly what happened."
According to Vance, there appeared to be one errant rocket that the Iranians fired at the very end—it did not land or cause any damage—but the Israelis perceived it as a breach and were preparing a massive response. President Trump had reached his limit. "I called him five minutes before this press conference and we talked about it. And I think the president was just like, 'This is ridiculous. These guys are exhausted. Both of them want to stop fighting. This stupid tit for tat is unacceptable. And I'm just going to go out there and I'm going to make it very clear to each party that this needs to stop,'" Vance recalled.
The forcefulness of Trump's public statement actually changed the trajectory of the morning and saved the ceasefire. "The president got it back on track as only he can do. It was really amazing," Vance said.
Pitching A Perfect Game
Kirk emphasized the extraordinary nature of what the administration accomplished, describing it as "pitching a perfect game." The operation resulted in no nuclear program for Iran, no troops on the ground, no nation-building, no U.S. troop casualties, and no protracted conflict. This combination of outcomes is virtually unprecedented in modern American Middle East policy.
Vance agreed enthusiastically: "That's right. It really is a dream, Charlie. And I think you and I are similar age. We grew up in the same generation. I think a lot of people in our generation assume that every single time we do anything in the Middle East that is necessarily going to lead to some protracted quagmire."
The Vice President emphasized that President Trump was simply not interested in that outcome. "I actually think he pressed the reset button on a generation of failed American foreign policy. He basically said it is actually possible for Americans to go and do important things in the American interest and then to get out."
The Military Operation
Vance provided details about the remarkable military precision involved in the operation. B-2 bombers flew halfway across the world and dropped 30,000-pound bombs—twelve of them—on ventilation shafts literally the size of a washing machine. The bombers then returned without ever landing, using aerial refueling throughout the entire mission.
"It's an amazing testament to American military power," Vance said. "But the president used that military power to accomplish something that mattered to the American people. He's been saying it for 10 years. We can't let Iran get a nuclear weapon. He accomplished it and now he's moving on, I think, to build more peace and more prosperity all across the Middle East."
Rejecting False Dichotomies
Vance addressed the criticism the administration has faced from various quarters. "You of course have heard some of the president's supporters and even the president himself, me, have been attacked as isolationists. And then you had people sort of attacking us and saying that we were going to get involved in another forever war."
What he witnessed was a president who asked a simple question: "What do we need to do to accomplish America's interests? Let's go and do it and then let's get out." This approach, Vance argued, demonstrates that there is a third way between isolationism and endless interventionism—a path that uses American power decisively for American interests and then disengages.
Domestic Priorities Moving Forward
Kirk shifted the conversation to domestic policy, noting that much of the base is now demanding attention to domestic wins. Vance outlined the administration's top priorities, starting with their major legislative initiative: no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime, and massive funding for the border wall and immigration enforcement.
"It's impossible, I think, really to do mass deportations unless you get some more money into border patrol resources that have been really depleted under the Biden administration and not reinvested in our own security," Vance explained. He identified immigration as the most important domestic policy issue and the primary reason Donald Trump is the 47th president of the United States.
Vance pointed to a key metric: net migration numbers. "For the first time in a very long time, we have fewer people coming into the country than we are getting out of the country. That shows that we've stopped the flow of illegal immigration and we're starting the deportations."
He acknowledged that courts have attempted to block some of these efforts, but the administration is starting to accumulate wins in the judicial system. Once the "big beautiful bill" passes, Vance predicted an acceleration of deportations as the administration implements the most important part of its agenda.
Kirk's Reflection on JD Vance
Following the interview, Kirk reflected on why he and others worked so hard to support JD Vance as vice president. He praised Vance's prudence, precision, temperament, and comprehensive understanding of issues, calling him "a thought leader for a generation."
Kirk noted Vance's exceptional ability to articulate President Trump's agenda and his complete alignment with the president's philosophy: violent, precise, short action without long quagmires or continued conflicts. He described Vance as "a masterclass communicator" who represents the best future of the Republican Party.
Kirk emphasized an important aspect of Vance's selection that often gets overlooked: "JD Vance was not a Trump supporter originally, and that was actually the argument I made to the president as to why I think JD Vance would make a great vice president. It shows that there can be reconciliation and that people can come on board."
The Class Traitor Dynamic
Kirk drew attention to what he sees as a profound connection between Trump and Vance despite their vastly different backgrounds. Trump was born into wealth and redefined the New York skyline; Vance came from a broken home with no money in Appalachia and was, by many measures, destined for failure before he rose above his circumstances.
"However, they do have something in common that people forget. They are both class traitors. Both JD Vance and Donald Trump, they have defected from the ruling class," Kirk explained. Vance had been embraced by the establishment after "Hillbilly Elegy," speaking at prestigious venues like the Aspen Institute and receiving a Netflix movie. Yet he defected from all of that to become Trump's vice president and a steadfast defender of the MAGA agenda.
The Vice President's Diplomatic Role
Kirk stressed an often-overlooked aspect of the vice presidency: extensive involvement in diplomacy. Vance was intimately involved in the peace settlement between Israel and Iran, working directly with the Qataris and serving as the president's right-hand man. Kirk contrasted this with what a different vice president might have done: "Mike Pence right now would be beating the drums of war, saying that we need regime change privately."
Vance's consistency with the MAGA base, Kirk argued, stems from his lived experience. He is from Appalachia, from the hills of Ohio, from a broken family. He understood de-industrialization, drug abuse, and hardship. He served in the military, attended Yale, educated himself, and never forgot where he came from. "It's one of the most incredible authentic journeys and stories we've ever seen," Kirk said.
A Personal Endorsement
Kirk shared his personal perspective on Vance's character: "There's so much that gets said about politicians. He is a great person. You know, when JD calls me, it's just like talking to a normal guy. It's not like talking to one of these senators. It's just so exhausting. It's so scripted. It's real. It's raw. It's authentic. It's personal. He's always asking, 'Hey, how's your family? How are your kids?'"
Kirk gave President Trump credit for going out on a limb during the vice presidential selection process. There was major pressure from various quarters, but Trump resisted and chose Vance. "It was a huge risk and he was attacked out of the gate," Kirk recalled. Now, Vance's favorability ratings exceed 55 percent, and he is becoming a true statesman.
The interview and Kirk's reflection together paint a picture of an administration that has accomplished something many believed impossible: decisive action in the Middle East that advanced American interests without the quagmire that has characterized U.S. policy in the region for generations, combined with a domestic agenda focused on immigration enforcement and working-class economic relief.
Video Transcript
Joining us now is the vice president of
the United States, JD Vance. Mr. Vice
President, thank you for taking the
time. Congratulations on what you and
the president achieved yesterday. Walk
our audience through the significance
and the profoundity and your role in
helping achieve peace between Israel and
Iran.
Well, thanks so much, Charlie, for
having me. It's good to talk with you
and and really all credit goes to the
president here. He had a very clear goal
in mind. He wanted to destroy the
Iranian nuclear program. Uh he did that
militarily. Of course, we tried to do it
diplomatically, but the Iranians were
not willing to play ball. But he also
wanted us to be in a very narrow, very
defined operation where once we solved
the problem, he wanted to get the hell
out and not have to deal with the Middle
East anymore. And I think that's what
you saw here is you saw bold, decisive
action, but you also saw a willingness
to sort of press the brakes on both the
Iranians and the Israelis. Yeah. What
what what happened I think it was very
interesting. I I came into the the Oval
Office on Monday morning and we had just
received calls from both the Israelis
but also from the Iranians and from the
Israelis they were basically saying look
we're exhausted we don't want to do this
anymore and we've achieved our military
objective they were quite successful as
you know but they didn't want to keep on
going and I think from the Iranians they
were saying well we're going to do this
counterattack but it's going to be
largely symbolic this is where we're
going to strike they basically
telegraphed exactly what they were going
to do so that we maximize uh our ability
to save the the lives and the health of
our troops. And so what the president
basically said is let's figure out what
the Iranians are actually doing. Let's
obviously do everything that we can to
save our troops and then after the
attack, let's reconvene and see where we
are. And so we went to the Oval Office
around 3:00 or so yesterday afternoon.
The president kind of gathered up the
senior team and said, "Look, the
Iranians clearly didn't mean to kill
anybody because they told us exactly
where they were going to attack. The
Israelis are telling us they've achieved
their objectives and they don't want to
do a long protracted war. Let's go and
get a ceasefire done." And then 3 hours
later, that's exactly what we had
accomplished. And hilariously, uh, we
were working on confirming and
coordinating the details of this as I
was on the way to do an interview with
Brett Bayer. And then I think the
president got this over the finish line
literally while I was on air and then it
was read to me right before we actually
started recording the interview. So a
really big day for America, a really big
day I think for Israel and Iran, but
just a a big day for world peace.
Charlie, I mean, I I I can't emphasize
how big of a deal it is that we took the
Iranian nuclear program, we destroyed it
without losing a single American life
and without getting the United States
involved in some protracted Middle
Eastern conflict. It's kind of a
win-winwin all around. And and so, Mr.
Vice President, I've I've known the
president for about 10 years. I have
never seen him this mad publicly where
he dropped basically the fbomb heard
around the world at both Israel and
Iran. What what do you think led to
that? He wanted the ceasefire so badly.
He wants peace. His driving force is
peace not war which is such a sea change
versus the prior Republican party. Can
you comment on President Trump this
morning as he was demanding an end to
all conflict and it worked please?
Yeah. So I I mean look ceasefires are
always a little bit of mess mess Charlie
and we don't even know fully exactly
what happened. I mean our understanding
is that you know the Israelis obviously
tried to ramp up their campaign towards
the very end. The Iranians took a lot of
shot at the Israelis at the very end.
You know there are some concerns here
because you know even after the senior
leaders agree to a ceasefire it takes
some time for that message to get down
to the commanders in the field. you
know, even though if the leadership of
Iran, for example, says yes, okay, we'll
stop shooting. It's totally possible
that there's a guy they can't reach who
doesn't realize that. And and so it's
not even clear totally what happened,
but there appears to be one errant
rocket that the Israelis perceived was
fired at them. It did not land. It did
not do any damage. This was the very
last rocket the Iranian shot. And then
it seemed like the Israelis were going
to do this massive response. And the
president, you saw this morning, had
just been and I called him five minutes
before this press conference and we
talked about it. And I think the
president was just like, "This is
ridiculous. These guys are exhausted.
Both of them want to stop fighting. This
stupid tit for tat is unacceptable. And
I'm just going to go out there and I'm
going to make it very clear to each
party that this needs to stop." And and
obviously, you know, it's it's it's an
amazing thing to have an American
president who just goes out there and
says, "This is what's in America's best
interest. this is what's smart. The
parties should choose the smart path and
not the dumb path. And he said it so
forcefully that I actually think it
meaningfully changed the trajectory of
this morning. Charlie, I mean, just take
you through my own psychology. At around
6:30 this morning, which is I think
right around the time the president was
going out, I was worried that this
ceasefire would fall apart. You know, it
was it was hard one. There was a lot of
a lot of background that went into it.
You go to bed, you think things are
fine, you wake up and realize that
they're not. And and I really thought
around 6:30 this morning, the whole
thing might fall apart. The president
got it back on track as only he can do.
It was really amazing. Extraordinary
last night. There were a lot of doomers,
Mr. Vice President. There were a lot of
doomers. Yes, there were. And they were
like, "Oh, this thing's falling apart
and Persia's launching rockets and has
passed this." And I I I honestly I
turned my phone off at 1 1 a.m. Eastern.
I said, "I'm done." I said, I'm just
going to trust the Lord and trust Trump,
who I think has the hand of God on him
to settle this thing. So, Mr. Vice
President, I I want to ask you the the
complexity of being able to have no
nuclear program for Iran, to have no
troops on the ground, no nation
building, and no US troops. I mean,
that's pitching a perfect game. I hope
everyone in the audience understands how
unique and rare this is. Mr. Vice
President, can you can you add more
detail to that? Because to have all
those nos, no troops on the ground, no
permanent war, no quagmire, no US troops
dead and no nukes for Iran. That is a
dream.
Yeah, that's right. It really is a
dream, Charlie. And I think you and I
are similar age. We grew up in the same
generation. I think a lot of people in
our generation assume that every single
time we do anything in the Middle East
that is necessarily going to lead to
some protracted quagmire. Totally. And
the president was just not interested in
that. And and I think that, you know,
yes, the president deserves great credit
for destroying the nuclear program and
pressing the reset on the Iranian nuke
program, but I actually think he he
pressed the reset button on a generation
of failed American foreign policy. He
basically said it is actually possible
for Americans to go and do important
things in the American interest and then
to get out. Hold that thought. Something
that's really profound. We'll be back in
10 seconds. Hold that thought. We'll be
right back.
Yep. Okay. So, Mr. Vice President,
sorry, we had a radio break. Mr. Vice
President, continue that thought here,
though. Yeah. And and comment further.
Sorry to cut you off, but our generation
understandably has a ton of skepticism.
We think of Middle East long, expensive,
we're warary, and we're demonstrating
under the MAGA doctrine. Actually, there
is a third way.
That's exactly right, Charlie. And you
of course have heard some of the
president's supporters and and even the
president himself, me, have been
attacked as as isolationists. And then
you had people sort of attacking us and
saying that we were going to get
involved in another forever war. And
what what I saw privately and publicly
was a president who said, "What do we
need to do to accomplish America's
interests? Let's go and do it and then
let's get out." And and that basic idea
that you can go and do great things. The
American military is incredibly
powerful. I mean, what these B2 bombers
accomplished, Charlie, is really
extraordinary. They flew halfway across
the world, dropped 30,000lb bombs, 12 of
them, on ventilation shafts that were
literally the size of a washing machine,
and then got out without ever landing.
They never landed the entire mission.
They did aerial refueling. It's an
amazing, you know, testament to American
military power. But the president used
that military power to accomplish
something that mattered to the American
people. He's been saying it for 10
years. We can't let Iran have get a
nuclear weapon. He accomplished it and
now he's moving on, I think, to build
more peace and more prosperity all
across the Middle East. I think he
showed the Iranians that they're not
nearly as tough as they might think that
they are. I think that he showed the
Israelis that we're willing to use
American power for our interests, but
we're not going to get involved in
another Middle East quagmire. And and I
think that that combined message is
going to hopefully lead to a period of g
great peace and prosperity in the Middle
East, which of course will be great for
the United States. That'll mean, you
know, more investment, more prosperity,
more people building businesses in the
Middle East is great for America. More
war is terrible for America. And the
president threaded the needle perfectly.
One one final question. I know I have to
let you go, Mr. Vice President. A lot of
the base now is saying we need domestic
wins. Domestic, domestic, domestic. And
by the way, we had we had to do this
whole Iran Israel thing the way the
president handled it. What are the top
domestic priorities for this
administration? Mass deportations, no
tax on tips. Walk us through the
marching orders for this audience so
that we can really put the thrust and
the energy and the velocity uh here
domestically.
Yeah, of course. We have our big
legislative priority, which is no taxes
on tips, no taxes on overtime, but also
a massive amount of funding for the
border wall and for other immigration
enforcement. It's impossible, I think,
really to do mass deportations unless
you get some more money into border
patrol resources that have been really
depleted under the B administration and
not reinvested in our own security. As
as you know, Charlie, I think the most
important domestic policy issue, the
reason why Donald J. Trump is the 47th
president of the United States is the
need to one stop the mass invasion and
two, deport the people who were let in
during Biden's mass invasion. The
president's very committed to that. And
the number that really matters, Charlie,
is net migration numbers. If you look,
for the first time in a very long time,
we have fewer people coming into the
country than we are getting out of the
country. That shows that we've stopped
the flow of illegal immigration and
we're starting the deportations. And
that to me is is the is the most
important thing. It's the metric by
which we'll be judged. Obviously, you've
seen the courts try to stop this stuff,
but we're starting to get enough wins in
courts that I think if we get the big
beautiful bill passed, you're going to
see an accelerating approach to
deportations as we implement that most
important part of the agenda. I love it,
Mr. Vice President. Congratulations on
playing a role in history. We have your
back. Keep up the great work. Thank you
so much, Charlie. Thanks, man. Take
care. There's a lot of talk of what's
happening in Israel right now. Hostages
being released, terrorists resurfacing,
Gaza plans, and so on. But there's one
thing we tend to overlook. The people of
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physical and emotional toll on the
Jewish people. And that's why I want you
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reasons why we work so hard to get JD
Vance as vice president. His prudence,
his precision, his temperament, his
understanding of all the issues. He
truly is
a
thought leader for a generation. Now,
whether he will be the next president or
not, it's too early to do that. Look,
I'm 100% behind him if that's what he
decides to do. We We have governing in
front of us. We have to pass the big
beautiful bill. We have to get to mass
deportations.
And what President Donald Trump pulled
off the Middle East is extraordinary to
say the least. It's extraordinary. It's
breathtaking. JD Vance's ability to
articulate the president president's
agenda is second to none. And understand
he JD Vance is right in alignment with
the president. He is about violent,
precise, short action, but does not want
long quagmires or continued conflicts.
And he is a masterclass communicator
as we are putting together our summer
program, our student action summit
program. I don't think JD will be able
to join for this one. Maybe, maybe not.
But, you know, he's got a lot of stuff
going on. summer is by the way a lot of
times people joke around in government
summer doesn't happen a lot this is like
a rapid pace summer you got wars you got
big beautiful bill you got taxes you got
border you got deportations
and JD Vance represents the best of the
future of our party
and just so we just so everyone
understands we we have we've taken a
leadership role the last couple of weeks
we have not engaged in name calling
except I that's not true I did name call
two people Lindsey Graham and James
Langford I I that's True. I I did I did
name call Lindsey Graham and James
Lightford. Besides that, it's been very
nasty online if you haven't noticed. You
know, people hurling insults and all
this stuff after each other,
but I think that there is a moment of
reconciliation.
JD Vance was not a Trump supporter
originally, and that was actually the
argument I made to the president as to
why I think JD Vance would make a great
vice president. It shows that there can
be reconciliation and that people can
come on board. We want former people
that weren't Trump supporters to become
Trump supporters. I mean, look at that
shot right there. That's team America
right there. That's team peace. That is
team Western civilization.
Secondly, and I think it's a very, very
important point that is lost on people
is that the vice president does a lot of
diplomacy. Do you know JD Vance was
intimately involved in the peace
settlement?
intimately involved with the peace
settlement between Israel and Iran,
working with the Qataris, the right-hand
man. And what a difference it is from
Mike Pence. Mike Pence right now would
be beating the drums of war, saying that
we need regime change privately.
Publicly, he'd send out some statement
that is just superficial and
nonsensical.
JD Vance is consistent with the MAGA
base because his lived experience is
MAGA. He is from Appalachia. He is from
the hills of Ohio. He is from a broken
family. He understood
de-industrialization. He understand drug
use. He understood abuse.
Served in the military, went to Yale,
educated himself, never forgot where he
came from as becoming Ohio Senator. I
mean, it's it's one of the most
incredible authentic journeys and
stories we've ever seen.
a blueco collar upbringing all the way
up to the vice president of the United
States. Just look at that picture right
there. You could not fathom two guys
that have more in common and more not in
common than Donald Trump and JD Vance.
One born to a broken home with no money.
Donald Trump, billionaire. Look at that
difference.
One was destined to redefine the skyline
of New York. The other one was destined
for failure, but he rose above it.
However, they do have something in
common that people forget. They are both
class traitors. Both JD Vance and Donald
Trump, they have defected from the
ruling class. JD Vance was a well, he
spoke at the Aspen Institute. Everyone
loved him. Hillbilly Elegy. Oh my
goodness. JD Vance tell us about, you
know, how great everything is and Donald
Trump's terrible. And explain to us why
white workingclass people are in such a
in such revolt. He got a Netflix movie.
And yet JD Vance defected from all that
to become Donald Trump's vice president
and a stalwart defender and just
honestly he's such a good person.
There's so much that gets said about
politicians. He is a great person. You
know, when JD calls me, it's just like
talking to a normal guy. It's not like
talking to one of these senators. It's
just like so exhausting. It's so
scripted. It's real. It's raw. It's
authentic. It's personal. He's always
asking, "Hey, how's your family? How are
your kids?"
And Donald Trump is very much the same.
But we are blessed and we are lucky and
Donald Trump deserves credit because
he's really he went out on a limb.
Remember there was this major pressure
campaign during the VEP stakes and we
did everything we could on this program.
I mean we were all in at like a
hyperaggressive level both privately and
publicly
and and President Trump he resisted all
of the yammering all of the clamoring
and he said you know I think JD's the
guy. It was a huge risk and he was
attacked out of the gate. And now JD
Vance's favorables are 55 plus percent
as they should be. He's becoming a true
statesman, and I'm honored to call him a