Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. >> The Joe Rogan Experience. >> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT. All day. >> Who? Me? [laughter] >> Sorry. I didn't know you were talking talking to one of >> There's only three of us in here. Yeah. Are there [laughter] >> I don't know, dude. >> The glasses, man. What's the new sophisticated look? >> Yeah, I got them. >> What's going on? I I I see I see you got them. Yeah, they're great, man. My buddy Joseph gave it gave them to me. I got them from him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And they're popping. And they help, too. >> Yeah. Are you losing your vision? >> I don't think so. But I think these just make it even better. >> Okay. Let me see. Let me try them. See how bad your eyes are. >> Try them on, big dog. >> Oh, barely. >> I could get them weighted, too, so you could do a neck workout when you have them on. >> Why would you do that? This is uh God, I can't I can't tell the difference. Are you sure these are real? >> I think they are. >> I don't think these are real glasses, dog. >> Let me see. Try. Can >> I don't think they Jamie, put these on. I don't. First of all, they're smeared as [ __ ] >> Yeah. Somehow they keep getting grease on them, dude. All I've done >> You got greasy [ __ ] fingers and you keep touching them. You're not supposed to. Look at you. You're rubbing your head. You're rubbing your greasy face. >> I don't even go in the kitchen. >> You don't need grease. You don't need to go in the kitchen for grease. Barely tell the difference. Right. >> It's doing something, but >> barely. Barely. This is psychological. >> It's like it's if it's if you're 20 if you're not 2020, you're 2025. >> These are these are psychological, dog. >> You really You don't think they're good? >> No. No. I'm No. What I'm saying? I mean, they're fine, but they're psych, right? Like I've been reading too much. >> Um they're uh I think it's a psychological thing. >> Yeah, it could be. >> You got to believe that they make you see better. >> My vision's okay. It's not as good as it was when I was young. >> I got to read the packaging again. But it's a lot better than it used to be. I started using red light, a red light bed. Makes a giant difference, man. Huge difference. Yeah. I don't need reading glasses anymore. I needed reading glasses for a while. Like look at my phone. Like it was fine text. I don't read it. I don't need it at all anymore. >> And that's because of the red light. >> Oh yeah. 100%. >> Yeah. Red light therapy and certain vitamins like luteine. There's a few different There's a company called Pure Encapsulations. They make a formulation called macular support and I I take that stuff. But those two things for sure have had a a big impact. I think it's the red light though more than anything. That was the big that's the big factor. >> I've been doing sauna and I've been getting in there. >> It feels good. I feel like a little dumpling when I get out of there. >> Yeah, it's good. Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah, it feels good. Yeah. >> Get that body all heated up and everything just kind of flows out of you. I saw a protocol of what you're supposed to do before you get in there and I've never done any of these things, but it's like how much water you're supposed to drink before you go in. [snorts] >> [ __ ] all that. 45 minutes you're supposed to go you're supposed to drink uh like a liter of water with electrolytes and some magnesium. >> I don't know. Some guy made this. That's the problem. Like everybody's an online guru. >> Yeah. Well, everybody everything they watch it's like they think you're trying to get in the Olympics. It's like [ __ ] I'm just trying to [ __ ] get to work. [laughter] You know what I'm saying? [ __ ] I'm just trying to [ __ ] >> I just want to feel a little bit better. >> Yeah. I'm just trying make it out of my garage. >> Give me an edge. giving an edge on this cold, hard world. >> Yeah, that's the only thing, man. >> That's all I'm looking for. >> But good to see you, dude. >> Good to see you always, my friend. >> I'm glad you're still alive. >> You, too. I'm glad you're still alive, too. >> Amen. >> We've both been interviewing dangerous people. >> Have we, you think? >> Uh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. >> You really have. [laughter] >> Who have I interviewed that you have it? It's more dangerous. >> Oh, I don't That's a good question. I mean, I did I don't Yeah. I don't think I have people that's that dangerous. Maybe Thomas Massie. >> Oh, do you have him on? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They all hate him right now. It's uh this is a sad thing about both political parties, not just the the right, but the left, too, is they decide that they're going to gang up on someone for not towing the line. >> Yeah. >> You know, like whatever happened to having different opinions? whatever happened to having different perspectives and being able to argue your perspective. >> But then they have these goofy ass bills, which by the way, they just [ __ ] they slipped something into this last bill that uh Mitch McConnell guy did, I believe. Check make sure that he did it. The hemp thing. They slipped this thing in where you can no longer buy CBD with like it has to be like the lowest trace amount of THC in it >> which is for a like like my wife's mom you know she's an older lady and she takes CBD for pain for joints and stuff like that. >> Does she smoke it or she does the ointment? >> No, she takes like uh oil like CBD oil. >> Yeah. He snuck in [ __ ] dead turtle. He's a leaning proponent of closing a 2018 Farm Bill loophole allowing intoxicating THC to be sold in low doses. See, but he's got a couple of [ __ ] milligrams in his neck. Look at that [ __ ] >> He's got something going on. They definitely got him medicated. There ain't no way that guy's sleeping without help. Everybody hates him. >> It looks like he hit a joint. It won't leave him alone. >> Go back up [laughter] and show him. >> Like took an edible. He like Joey Diaz dosed him. >> He looks like he's on the church. He's on the church of what's happening now. And Joey Diaz sucker >> Joey Diaz and Lee are just staring at him. H Yeah. Um they gotta change that. That's uh really bad. >> Why is it bad? Because of what they >> Because for people that are getting benefits from CBD, the the THC along with the CBD. And by the way, we're talking super super low amounts. But there's something about how CBD and THC work in a synergistic way for people that are in a lot of pain. Um, I know a lot of people, like I said, my wife's mom, she says the stuff with the THC in it works better and it's not getting her high. Like, this is the misunderstanding. This stuff's not going to get you high, but it what it will do is it helps with anxiety for a lot of people. It definitely reduces inflammation and uh for people that have like joint pain like my friend Dave Foley, >> Dave Foley from News Radio, kids in the hall, Dave Foley, awesome guy. Uh Dave had like pretty severe arthritis in his hands like where, you know, he was really having a hard time opening his hands. Started taking CBD oil. >> Did he open a jar or anything like that? You think? Was it hard? >> He was in pain, man. It was it was bad. Um but now it's gone and it's gone because of CBD. It's really effective, man. It's really effective. And so what they're saying that they don't want you to Why Why are they doing that? Cuz they want to control it. >> It's the alcohol lobby. It's the same people that are trying to keep um marijuana illegal in Texas. It's the alcohol lobby. This is the fact. The fact is when people start smoking weed, they they drink less. >> And you know, I mean, it could be because they just decided to get high and not get drunk, or it could be that they smoke pot and they get a little paranoid and they go, "Oh my god, why am I poisoning myself 5 days a week?" Well, a lot of people now I feel like are just doing like cocaine and saunas. It seems like >> I don't think they're doing those together. Maybe in your neighborhood. [laughter] >> Not in our area. >> Maybe it's your town. >> I want my neighbors to know that. >> Maybe your neighbors are coming over their underwear with a [ __ ] baggie. [laughter] Let's go, Theo. Let's go. Let's get get that [ __ ] up to 185. Let's [laughter] go. There's a place up ahead. >> Throw that water on them rocks. I'm ready. I want my [snorts] nasal cavity to be opened wide. Get that lucalyptus in the air, [laughter] bro. Dude, the best is Yeah. If you have if you have a good brother or somebody, they say eucalyptus, bro. >> Eucalyptus. Get the eucalyptus in the air. >> But yeah, I don't know if a lot of people are even drinking that much anymore. Do you think >> lot less people are drinking, including me. But I did have a drink the other night before I went on stage and I felt great. Woo! I haven't done that in a while. I had a little whiskey before I went on stage. But I gave up on drinking entirely for many months. I forget how many months, but it was quite a while where I didn't have a sip of alcohol and I felt way better. You did? >> Yeah. But I don't think there's anything wrong with moderation. You know, like uh when I was in uh New York, I went to this place, Teresi. Oh my god. >> For MSG, you mean for for the pipes just now? >> Oh my god. There's this Italian restaurant in New York City called Teresi. It's so good. >> Well, remember that place you took me to? >> Oh, yeah. Ganos in Vegas. Oh, so good. >> Thank god the the little >> Oh, bro. All handmade pasta at Gaitanos, man. >> What was that little thing? It's like a little square. Looks like >> raviolis. Oh my god. Right. >> Like a shingle fell off the roof of heaven and landed in. >> Yeah. With that sauce just perfect soft. >> And Gaitanos is uh like a lot of it. It's It's like the best ones get their flour from Italy cuz it doesn't [ __ ] with your stomach. Our flour is all messed up, man. Our wheat's messed up. >> Oh yeah. A lot of our wheat's from Memphis, dude. A lot of our wheat has like Yeah. >> All kinds of pesticides on it. A lot of it has. >> Yeah. A lot of it has guns. It is like [ __ ] bullet holes in our wheat. >> You could test positive for coke just from that. Just from eating wheat, just from having bread. >> Do you know how many dollar bills test positive for coke? It's some crazy number. >> Yeah. I could imagine that that's probably true. This guy tests positive. Huh? >> Is that your stepdad? >> No, that's Art Bell. >> You don't know who Art Bell is? Coast to Coast with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Nigh. >> Yeah. Perup Nevada. That's him. >> Yeah, that's Art. He's the godfather of fun conspiracies. >> Yes. He's like UFOs, >> the radio station, you could listen at night, >> dude. He was my nighttime jam coming home from the comedy store. >> I could see that >> always cuz you're coming home from the comedy store, it's like, you know, 1:00 in the morning and the art coast to coast with Art Bell is on. The guy calls up, "At I'm a time traveler." [laughter] >> HE HAD A TIME traveler hotline. >> Yes, he did. >> He was you. He was you, you freak. How many time travelers you've had in here? Probably a couple. >> Oh, yeah. At least one. A couple that probably can't find their way home to >> at least one. I've had at least one time. >> No, dude. That's you. I could totally picture it now. You like you get a car with some speakers in it and you're the only one driving around listening to Art >> Bell. Oh, there's a lot of people listening. He was really popular. >> Oh, no. I know how popular he was. But I mean, at a level where you would bump it with bass like you loved it, >> right, right? Yeah. I loved it. I loved it. You know, it's like the perfect stuff to occupy your mind coming home from the comedy store because occasionally it was like real [ __ ] Like occasionally he'd have some people talking about some really fascinating things, you know, like asteroid impacts and and he had Terrence McKenna on a few times. He had a lot of interesting people. But then every now and then he would mix it up with a dude who says he's a werewolf. [laughter] >> And Art would never go, "Man, you ain't a werewolf." He would go, "Interesting. Tell me more." [laughter] He let dudes talk. >> He let dudes say the most ridiculous [ __ ] It was [ __ ] great. >> I got to do his show once. I got it. I did it. Yeah, I did it when >> I did it when it was on the radio or on the internet rather. He wasn't on the radio anymore. He had an internet uh radio show for a while. >> Did he know who you were at that point or No. >> Yeah. Yeah. Luckily, but uh to me it was like [ __ ] yeah. It's like a few things in my life where when I did them I was like yes, you know, that was a big one. I hung up the phone. I had a giant [ __ ] smile on my face. >> I just did the Art Bell show, son. >> Dude, that's so cool that that's him. I can't tell if I can see him better with or without these on. >> I think it's psychological. I'm telling you, those glasses don't do a damn thing. They don't even change the shape of your face. You know how sometimes people put them on and I always go, "How blind is this motherfucker?" And I'll look to the side and I can see like their face cakes in like [laughter] like a half a foot because they got giant magnifying glasses over their eyeballs. But with you, it looks exactly the same. The line of your face doesn't change at all when you turn side to side. I think they're [ __ ] with you. I think they think you're crazy and they're like, "His eyes are perfect. Just give him some clear lenses." You're like, "Yeah, I think I think this works. I think I see better than these." >> I think Y'all got a vape pen? [laughter] >> Yeah. Let me hit that vape, homie. There is something about when uh people wear them, they look smarter. >> Oh, for sure, dude. My friend was wearing them the other day. This girl, and I was like, "Dang, this girl is >> she must be a genius." >> Yeah. >> Hot secretary or hot professor. Hot lady professor. >> Let me do some homework up in them undies. That's what I was thinking. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, let me get up in that study hall, baby girl. >> Let me get extra credit points. Let's go. >> Yeah, dude. >> But if you're a dumb dude with glasses, that's a bad look. >> Cuz not only are you blind, but you're [ __ ] stupid, too. >> It was like Stephen Avery's cousin, that little fellow that stood by the like was grilling hot dogs on that burn barrel in the uh remember when they when they >> Who's Stephen Avery? >> The um >> Who's Stephen Avery? >> Describe him. the murders from the the like Netflix thing from the I think it was a pandemic, wasn't it? >> Making a murder. Was that him? >> Yeah, >> I can't remember. >> What was his case? >> He was a murderer. Well, they said he was. Was he the Yes, he was a murderer. >> He's in jail for it. >> He's in jail for it. And he had his little cousin. >> Oh, this is the guy that's a little mentally challenged. Yeah, I read some stuff. >> And his little cousin, that's him. Has shades on. >> Brendan Dassy B Dassy, >> who's actually We did a little bit of pen paling with him. tried to. Anyway, >> what do they think about this? Do they think that >> I think he did it. I think there was like I I believe people said that the Netflix thing got like edited strange and left stuff out that >> that's the thing. You can't tell what's real anymore. Who knows? >> Well, selective editing is crazy. It's crazy that they still do that. >> Well, everything's crazy right now. >> I know. >> I mean, I feel like this is the year. Do you feel like this is the year that um people realize that like ne both of the neither side of the government is working for us? Is that a weird thing to say? >> Well, it's true. It's pretty obvious that it's true. Okay. They're all working for the people that got them in. So, no matter what they even if they're good people that want to do well for you, their obligations when they get in there are the people that help them get in there. They're the campaign contributors. to the military-industrial complex, the military contractors, the big money, big money banks, big money. That's what this all this government shutdown [ __ ] was all about, man. It's all about healthcare, right? So, it's all about how much money is getting funneled through these corporations. If you really think that what they're trying to do is make sure that people get health care, you're [ __ ] naive. >> Yeah, you're ridiculous. >> What they're doing is they are protecting some kind of slush fund. If somebody digs into this and finds out where that money's going and finds out how this money's distributed, it'll make more sense because there ain't a [ __ ] chance in hell that they're keeping the government shut down to protect your health. >> Yeah. >> There's not a chance. There's not a chance they're shutting down the [ __ ] air traffic controllers. [laughter] Not a chance. They're shutting down NASA cuz they're worried about you getting the flu. That [ __ ] is not happening. That's not what's going on. >> But I think everybody's starting to realize that. Dude, I went to the post office. Have you been to the post office recently? >> I have not. >> Okay. >> Not since I voted. That was the last time I was at the post office. >> Okay. Well, it's over. So, [laughter] if you want to know what the post office is like, dude, I went I'm not even joking. I went to the the closest branch near me in Nashville. There was two birds. There was two crows in there. Two. One of them was a crow. Definitely. One of them was a pretty big bird, and I thought it was a crow, but he had some discoloration or whatever. So, maybe like a mulatto crow or mixed crow or something. I don't know. >> Okay. f pulling a [ __ ] like fighting over a [ __ ] box in there and there's a lady um kind of like a darker woman in there and she's spraying [ __ ] Lysol trying to get them out of the [ __ ] post office. I was like >> Lysol. >> Yeah. Or like a fabuloso like a [laughter] cleaning spray like a disinfectant. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, got it. >> Like she's standing on a little stepladder trying to [ __ ] get these two birds who were fighting over a [ __ ] package. I was like we're [ __ ] >> We're [ __ ] man. That's and that's that's the government, right? That's biblical. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it seems like a Stephen King outtake, you know? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But I'm like, this is where we are. This is >> this is how like everything's privatized now. It's a wrap. >> Do you feel like it's a wrap? Like, I've been thinking for years that America just feels like a Shell company, like a Shell LLC. >> Here's the thing about it being privatized. Some things probably should be privatized because they work better. >> Okay. They were like FedEx came along, UPS came along, so those came along. >> But the post office still does a good job, man. You know, the >> I'm going to disagree with that. I'm sorry. I never disagree with you. I don't think >> the post office is the only people that are sending sending letters for you for like 30 cents or whatever it costs. And then the post office are the only way that you could ship chickens, live chicks, like little baby chicks. They have to do it through the post office because they know what to do and they keep them alive. They know they're chicks. >> Oh, that's nice. I didn't know that. All the we've had chickens, you know, and every chicken we get when we get them, they're baby chicks >> and they come in the mail. >> They get them through the post office. Post office delivers them. >> Can you hear the package like that? It's like >> Yeah, bro. The post office it works. It's not perfect because it's the government and there's no government programs that are perfect. You know, >> it doesn't work that good anymore, though. I think it's [laughter] it's gotten so bad, dude. >> The post office >> maybe, >> bro. It's gotten bad. I sent my niece a birthday card, dude. She never got it. She never got it. It had money. It's gone. It's gone. She'll never get it. Bro, you know what always? Nobody's getting anything. >> The videos of these people dropping off UPS packages. They take a picture of the package and then they steal the package. [laughter] >> I've seen that. I've seen videos of that. I think people are kind of hip to what ring cameras could do. But, bro, there was a quite a while where people were doing some really [ __ ] horrible [ __ ] right in front of those cameras cuz they didn't know. >> They didn't know. You can't be just stealing people's packages after you drop them off like the [ __ ] UPS driver, you know? >> It's a [ __ ] wild time. a lot of videos of that man. They put him down, take a picture, and they pick him up, take him back to the truck >> and take him back, >> and then the camera's like, "Hey, [ __ ] face." >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Hey, [ __ ] >> Yeah. This This episode's brought to you by Visible. 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Yeah, >> that's one thing I like about living in a state where there is the ability to express something. >> You're talking about guns >> bulletarily. That's how I like to say [laughter] it. There's the ability to express something bullarily to somebody if you disagree if their behavior see is illegal. >> Yeah. You got to be careful about what that though the laws are different in different places. Like even if someone's stealing something, you're not allowed to kill them. >> Yeah. Um, a guy just got in trouble because some dudes, I think there was three dudes, broke into his garage and he uh went into his garage and they went after him and he shot them and he killed one of them and now they're bringing him up for manslaughter cuz I guess they're saying he didn't have to shoot them. He could have just scared them or he didn't have to kill them. He could have just retreated back into his home. Like in California, they're [clears throat] literally telling >> stuff like a like a >> I was just scared of them with a gun, I guess. >> I guess. But like you don't know what they have. You don't know what's going on. These are split-second decisions you're making with your life in danger. And then if you have a wife and children, bro, you're going to shoot first and ask questions later. You're not going to make a mistake that's going to have your your kids killed. >> Yeah. You can't be like, "Are you scared or what?" You can't say that kind of [ __ ] >> No, bro. It's scary. Someone's breaking into your home. You have no idea what they have. If you have no idea if they're there to kill you, if you no idea they're there to rob you, if they're going to duct tape you and torture you for a week, you don't know what the [ __ ] is going on. And if you have a gun, you're most likely going to use it and you're going to shoot them. And the fact that these people broke into his house, they were committing a crime in defending his property and maybe his life. He's getting charged with manslaughter. That's that's ridiculous. This is the This is the problem with liberal politics. >> [clears throat] >> And this is where I would get really confused because I'm like, I don't know what they're trying to do. But if I was going to try to destroy civilization, that's how I would do it. >> Yeah. >> I would keep keep letting violent people out, keep saying it's racist to keep them in jail, keep saying, you know, they're a victim of systematic racism and keep and just like let the violent people stay being violent, and then when people defend themselves, lock them up, have everybody scared. Like, if you wanted to destroy society, you would do it exactly this way. And I don't understand that. I don't understand. Like it's I understand being a kind, compassionate person doesn't believe in gun violence. Absolutely. But if that's the case, like there's no better deterrent to gun violence than someone who has a gun and you can't get to their house because they'll [ __ ] shoot you. Okay? Like that's that's a really good deterrent. Unless you're going to have police everywhere and you don't. So like, who's going to protect people from bad people? If you're going to admit that bad people exist? If you want to stop bad people from happening, that's a conversation I'd love to have. That's a real conversation. Like, let's figure out how to clean up a lot of these neighborhoods and figure out what's causing all these problems. >> But nobody wants to do that or it would have been or would have been done by now at this point. People just want to kind of keep these higher powers. They know what they're doing. It just starts to feel like the experiment, like we're just really seeing the experiment, you know? It's almost like say you were playing the game Mario or something and one day Mario instead of just going this way on the screen, he [ __ ] turns and looks at you >> and he's like, "I see what you're doing." That's what it feels like we are right now. Like we're we're looking right >> at the people controlling everything and like >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> that's all because of the internet, dog. >> But [clears throat] it feels like >> if it wasn't for the internet, no one would be looking because we wouldn't be getting these conversations, >> right? We'd still be we'd still be people would still be disillusioned. >> You'd be getting CNN. You'd be getting some horseshit version of what's actually going on. But because the internet and real independent journalists and and people that are breaking things down, you start to go, "Wait a minute. What the [ __ ] is going on?" >> Yeah. >> Who is who is doing this? Why are you doing it? >> Want some coffee, dog? >> Can I have some? >> [ __ ] yeah. Of course you can. >> Oh, thanks, buddy. >> Um >> Yeah, man. >> I mean, we're the first generation that has had Cheers, my brother. Cheers, man. Good to see you, dude. >> Good to see you always. >> Really am excited to see you. >> I'm excited to see you, too. Always. [clears throat] >> And I'm excited to see you a little clearer than I did. >> I don't think you are. I think it's I think they got you. I think they're [ __ ] with you, man. I think they're giving you placeos, too. >> Really? >> Yeah. I think they gave you a Let me take some whatever pills they give you. Let's see what happens. >> No, these are 15s. I think these are good. >> 15s. What does that mean? >> I don't know. Oh, this you fogged up. >> [laughter] >> You fogged up from the coffee. Gotcha. >> You [ __ ] gave me this molten coffee, dude. >> Black rifle in the house. >> Is it >> always? That's all we drink, >> dude. I went uh Oh, yeah. Well, there's Yeah, I'm just at the the journalism now. I can't I know this is too hot for me right now. >> It's not that hot. Look, >> I'm going to need glasses for my tongue after I drink this, dude. >> No, it's not that hot. No, no, it's an illusion. It's warm. >> It's decently hot, you know? Like nice. Nice. >> Yeah. Refreshing. >> Yeah, like refreshing. Not like ouchie. Why can't Starbucks figure that out? >> Because it I don't even think that's coffee anymore. It's almost become like McDonald's. It's just a It's a >> It's burnt. >> It's a taste. It's just a thing. >> I drink black coffee. That's what I drink. That's what I like. I got into it a while ago. Like Rick Ross, bro. It's like Rick Ross. >> You know what I got into it, Jamie? Remember when we had that guy Peter Giuliani on that was the coffee connoisseur? That got me into I started drinking black coffee from then on. That was a long time ago. At least 10 years ago, right? >> I had a real coffee connoisseur on. Yeah. cuz I wanted to know all about coffee. >> Samo kind of. >> Yeah, man. Dude, it's f He brought in a bunch of different coffees. We were tasting like these Ethiopian blends that almost was like lemony. >> He was like, "You taste the hints of lemon?" I'm like, "I do." >> Yeah. >> Did you know all coffee comes from Ethiopia? >> Uh-uh. >> Yes. >> Some of it comes from some of it comes I know from um there's Kona coffee, isn't there? >> Right. But it all originated in Ethiopia. That's where the plant originated. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. So, they moved it into South America. also like they started making it in Colombia. They make it in Hawaii has bombdiggity coffee. Kona coffee is some of the best coffee in the world. I guess probably the soil like something about the in Hawaii. If you if I [ __ ] drink my own piss in Hawaii, I'm still [laughter] it's a little better than if I'm drinking it in [ __ ] outside of Akran. You know what I'm saying? >> A smoke stacks in the background. Can't be drinking a liter of piss before you get in the sauna with your neighbor. [laughter] >> Yeah. Or I get a little bag for my for my >> Someone's got a urine therapy protocol that you have to take with your cocaine. >> Dude. Yeah, bro. Even a hot batch of piss in Hawaii tastes way better. >> That's so true. But I drink it in America. Like I I used to order cone of coffee. >> Yeah. [snorts] But yeah, I mean >> before I went Black Rifle exclusive. >> Yeah. Well, I met the guy from Black. He's a good friend of mine. >> Nice guy. >> I love him to death. >> Yeah. He took me around whenever whenever I was there. >> He's one of my absolute favorite people. Oh, I'm wearing one of his shirts. Look at that dog. >> He treated me super well, dude. He's the best, >> dude. Somebody Oh, Candace Owens sent me that thing. It was a um >> You got notes. >> She sent I just >> You brought notes. >> There's things I wanted to talk about. I just want to forget [laughter] them. >> Okay. >> My my [clears throat] It's been hard for me to remember stuff. >> Okay. >> So, >> I'll help you out. >> You will? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You get some Alpha Brain. Take some. Have you ever Do you ever take vitamins for your brain? >> Nope. >> It works. >> I will take some. >> Yeah. You should there's a bunch of different kinds [clears throat] and you should try what you like. Um but another real good one is um this company uh Neuro Gum. They make neuro gum and neuromint. >> I've heard you talk about it. >> That's really good. There's a one called True Brain. They make like a little shot. That's really good. >> Magic Mind I know has one that I think is pretty good. >> That's a different one. That's a different kind. They use mushrooms, but that's a good one, too. >> I think synergistically they would all work well together. But there's legit vitamins that work on your brain. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. that work on your memory. >> Yeah. I wanted Yeah. [clears throat] >> Yeah. I'll probably I would like to >> I'll give you some before we leave. I have some Alpha Brain Black Label around here somewhere. I definitely have a few bottles in the kitchen, but that's the best. Alpha Brain. I've tried them all. Even though I know I'm associated with Alpha with on it, and I'm probably lying. I'm not this I I tell you about all the other ones. I don't make a penny off of them, but Alphabrain I think is the best one. It's the most effective >> and it's the the only one that I know of that did two double blind placeboc controlled studies with the Boston Center for Memory >> Alpha Brain. >> Yeah. So, we did that because a lot of people were saying it was snake oil. >> The Boston Center for Memory. Like, how many UCLA ass [laughter] in 2001? You know >> what year did the Socks make it into the series? >> Dude, one time I was going into a show. [clears throat] We were outside of B. We had a show outside of Boston. It's like a theater. It's like 15, 20 minutes away. Um, and I'm walking in. I'm walking in late. Everybody's already in there. I think the show had started. And so I'm coming in and a guy and his wife are walking by with pizza. They're heading in. And the guy's like, "Dothy, give him a [ __ ] pizza. The guy's starving. He's late for work." And I'm like, "I'm fine." And like, and first of all, why don't you just give me your pizza, dude? He's like, Dorothy, this kind of like kind of big back lady. She said that is muffling down a piece of pizza, dude. >> He was trying to give get you to give her pizza. his wife to give me her pizza. I'm like, >> but not his pizza. Interesting. That's a bad relationship. >> He's like, "Don't you see the guy's he's running late for work?" >> He's trying to tell his wife he's fat and he's doing it a subtle way. >> Well, he was using me. So, I'm like, "Dothy, I'm fine." You know? >> Yeah, he was using you, >> but it was just like a like just Boston thing [clears throat] >> or he was just trying to have some conversation. It might have been that. Maybe we're looking into it too much. [snorts] >> Dude, I had a dream you were an EMT, dude. Have you ever had that? >> Really? You had a dream I was an EMT? >> Yeah. And I've had it two times >> that really like I was like tending to car accidents and stuff. >> Yeah. >> Really? >> Mhm. And I think it was in Boston. I think that's what even made me think about it. >> I could have gone down that route in life maybe if things had been different. That's possible. >> I could have saw that. >> That [snorts] could have happened. I almost joined the army when I was uh 18 for their taekwondo team. There was a dude, God, I think his name was Clay Barber. Um he was one of the national competitors that I I looked up to uh when I was on my way up and he was uh in the army and he had uh like the army paid him to train and I was like oh [ __ ] you could join the army and they'll pay you to compete you know because they had an army boxing team like I believe Ray Mercer was on the army boxing team when he fought in the Olympics and won the gold medal. >> Do you have to be but do you also have like do you have to do service as well? >> Is that him? No, he was a a black guy. >> Oh. >> Oh, there's that. See the T window? So, it says right there to the right. >> Yeah, the the one with the right where it says his name right there. Click on that. >> Which one you looking at? >> The one that your cursor is over, dog. >> Clay Barber. Right there. Yeah. So, he was really good in like uh I guess it was probably like 86 or Yeah. Somewhere around I was 18, so it had to be 85 or 86. Oo, baby girl. >> But that that's the dude right there. He was an elite um national competitor in my weight class. >> He'll kick a [ __ ] whisper out of your mouth. That dude's a gangster, huh? >> Yeah, he was really good. Um but he was competing for the Army team. And so I was like, maybe I should join the army. And then I thought about I was like, I don't want to get shot. Like what am I doing? Like I I don't trust anybody. You're >> Did you try on the clothes at home or anything? Did you do anything? >> No, I didn't try on the clothes. I saluted the mirror in the mirror a couple times. >> I'm like, no, we're good. >> Yeah, dude. Yeah. I I guess I don't know if I could see you being in the in the army, but yeah, it was just a dream. It was just I think it was like you honestly I think it was like you and Gogggins I think were maybe like EMTs or whatever. >> That sounds like something Gogggins would do. >> But y'all did not [ __ ] you guys did not deal with anybody's [ __ ] Like you guys showed up and you were like get the [ __ ] up. [laughter] >> You're like what the you [ __ ] [ __ ] I think I don't even think you had any like I don't think you had even a step. You had like a whistle like [ __ ] [laughter] You know what Gogggins does that a lot of people don't know about? He smoke jumps. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Like for smoke and play high school basketball. >> That's very different. It's very different. He he parachutes into fires. >> Oh, yeah. That's not it. >> Like in Canada >> for fun. >> Uh because it's hard. >> Oh, >> literally. But because it's hard to do. Dude's worth like $30 million. He jumps out of [ __ ] planes with parachutes and and he sent me a photo uh of a giant ass [ __ ] grizzly track. This they they landed in Canada at this place and right where they landed to fight these fires was like I mean like a grizzly track >> and he was like wish me luck. [laughter] >> I was like dude get the [ __ ] out of there. You see that track? Get the [ __ ] out of there. That's a,00B wild dog. >> Wow. And he just does it cuz he wants it. >> Cuz it's hard to do. >> You're landing just in the smoke. >> Yeah. >> Now, when you get in there, do they have a plan of where you're going? Is it fire? It's firemen and fire women in there. >> I Well, there's a lot of different tasks that they do, but one of them is you're digging a fire break. So, you're dig Like a lot of what happens is embers land on the ground and then that starts a fire, right? So, what they do is they'll they'll clear the ground for a wide area where the fire is coming. So, the fire's on its way. They'll get ahead of the fire and then they'll clear a giant path on the ground. >> Baby girl, that would scare me. >> It's scary. >> That would scare me. >> Guys die. I mean, they 100% they get trapped and they die. The wind shifts, >> you know, things sometimes things are unpredictable. >> Um, but he does it just cuz it's hard. He's so crazy. Does he have to sign a con? He must have to sign something, huh, >> bro? I don't know what he does. He doesn't I bet he doesn't even tell him he's David Gogggins. [laughter] He just shows up. I'm telling you, man. He's He's a different cat. Like, he's he's the real deal. Like, he's not pretending to do all these things, >> right? >> You've seen those videos where he takes UFC fighters on workouts >> and they're dying. Like, he took Israel Adosana. Israel Adosagna, two-time middleweight [ __ ] champion of the world, one of the best to ever do it. Elite athlete. dying. I mean, d couldn't keep up. Gogggins was talking to him like, "Come on, son. Keep going." He's like, he's throwing up in a garbage can. Like, no [ __ ] It's crazy to watch cuz you realize like the level of conditioning this guy has. He's 50 years old. He's not doing it for any reason. Like, he's not getting ready for the World Series. He's not in the Super Bowl. >> What do you think he's proven it to himself? >> You would have to ask him. I mean, >> he says he's learning things. I'm downloading lessons like like he's just he's that guy, man. Like >> there's a lot of What is that? >> I found the track. Sorry. >> What is it? >> The tracks. The Grizzly tracks. >> Oh, show me. Show me. I sent it to you, right? >> Yeah, it's on my >> Put the headphones on. All right, check this out. >> Hang on one second. [snorts] >> Show me. [laughter] >> Remember that song? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> The cure. >> The cure. Yeah, they were good. They passed away. Huh? >> Did they? >> I think before they Yeah. >> I don't think Well, there's multiple members. Did that guy pass away? The lead singer of the cures. The cure rather. >> What's the matter, Jamie? >> Well, I had it on my phone. I didn't have it on my computer. >> Yeah. And I jumped the gun. >> Do it. But >> dude, if you were >> Why don't you send it to me and I'll send it to you. [laughter] And you'll have it on your computer. >> I found it on the [snorts] >> Dude, if you were an EMT, that'd be sick, huh? >> I I think it's a bummer, man. >> I don't even think you'd get with a vehicle. You'd pull up and be like, get the [ __ ] up. [laughter] You know, >> I'd probably be >> and then Gogggins would go help him. [laughter] Gogggin, get the [ __ ] off, you little [ __ ] >> Don't know how to make this. >> Well, just send it to me and I'll send it to you. >> I have it. I have it. I just bigger. >> Here it is. That's good. Give me some volume. >> Look at that. on my way. >> See this grizzly bear prince, man. >> Look at these [ __ ] dude. They're as big as my foot. >> [ __ ] huge. >> This is a massive [ __ ] grizzly bear. >> Look at that, dude. >> Massive [ __ ] grizzly bear. >> Look at that paw. That's crazy. >> How wide it is. >> This is [ __ ] a massive ass grizzly bear. And as you see, >> where's it going? >> He walks right through there through those woods. So, >> probably over the mountain. >> We are in big time grizzly bear territory. >> Bro, that's so sketchy. >> That's cool. >> That's so sketchy. >> He sent me that. >> Yeah, cuz I was like, "What are you doing?" He sends me that. This is what I'm [laughter] doing. >> Other people are like, "I'm watching football." That's right. [laughter] >> He's like, "I just [ __ ] parachuted into Grizzly country." Oh, man. There's nothing scarier than than big animals like that. Nothing scarier. >> I get the most scared honestly in my life. Um, when I was young, they had like a lot of pedophiles in our area and I think that kind of like made me nervous, but probably being in the ocean. >> You had a lot of pedophiles in your neighborhood. >> Oh, yeah. >> Like how many? >> I mean, I think at least three is enough for like a small area. >> Three is more than enough. >> Yeah. >> How come nobody did anything about it? >> They did. I mean, they put them in our neighborhood or like [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Is that what I mean? I mean, how come nobody arrested them? Okay. >> Oh, they'd been arrested. Yeah. These were guys who were like, uh, >> they were released. >> Yeah. They used to have this thing. Remember when they had this Well, I wonder when that rule was. It was like the pedophiles had to go around door todo. >> Oh. And let everybody know. >> No, they were pedophiles. Right. >> Right. That was a law that they passed. You had to alert people that a sex offender had moved into the neighborhood. >> Well, we lived our mom worked all the time and we were just at home all the time. So, you'd have pedophiles literally come to the door >> and let you know. >> Yeah. and be like, "Is your mom home?" And be like, "No." And they were like, "Well, I'm a pedophile." You're like, "Well, [laughter] >> that's a problem." >> Yeah. Come back after 6, you know. Uh, but so it was just crazy like, you know, but then at least you did know who the people were, >> but it was definitely weird that you're setting and they they don't live in nice neighborhoods. You you know, like now there's a lot of like billionaire pedophiles that our government protects and stuff, but back then >> You really think so? >> I don't know. >> I don't know either. That's what makes me nervous. I don't know. >> I mean, they just had that thing that came out about the Trump FC thing the other day. That whole thing is just a kickball at this point. I feel like, >> bro, have you ever seen that video of me and Tim Dylan where Tim Dylan is laying out the scandal that took place and like was it the 1970s, Jamie? >> The Franklin scandal. What year was that? I >> think in the 80s and 90s. >> Bro, we all dressed up like astronauts or was that one? >> Me and Tim Dylan. No. Well, no, we're dressed normal. >> Okay. He I don't even think he had the crazy glasses on back then. That was before he was protecting his eyes. Now he protects his eyes. >> 88. >> 88. Play that video. I sent it to you, right? This video is nuts, man. This was Tim laid this out quite a while ago and I kind of forgot about it until it popped up on my feed. I was like, "Oh shit." And then I said, "I could send it back to you if you >> Thank God for Tim Dylan. >> Oh my god, he's the best. There's never been a better ranter ever in the history of ranting. Ever. >> Ever." >> Sin too. I bet there was somebody a long time ago that was good, but we don't have enough of his work to really compete against him. >> He's the funniest by far. He's the most sarcastic, the most tongue andcheek, and the most well- read. Yes. >> The thing about Tim Dylan is like he doesn't just go with narratives because he um thinks that you want him to say certain things. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he's very very well read and he forms his opinions based on facts and then turns into humor. >> Yeah. >> He's the [ __ ] man. Play this. was a it was a scandal out of Omaha, Nebraska, the Franklin Credit Union, where there was a guy who was embezzling money and then he was being investigated for that, but they said he's all he has all this money because he's running an interstate pedophile network and he's pandering kids to, you know, people in Washington DC and New York and it was a a headline in the Washington Post or the Washington Times that were like callboy get a tour of the Reagan White House. unidentified White House aids in the Carter, Reagan, and Bush administrations now are being investigated for using the services of a callboy ring. The paper reports that two of the male prostitutes were given a late night tour of the White House last year. >> And you know, this was a scandal with real victims wanted to testify and then people started dying. You know, the private investigator they hired, his plane broke up. Uh, one of the girls that uh testified was found guilty of perjury and that she was put in solitary confinement. They had to use two grand juries in Omaha to get rid of this scandal. And it's one of now it's not as sexy as like a pizz or something because it happened in the 80s and '90s, but this shows you the blueprint for the government, you know, using marshalling resources to to silence people that were victims of this stuff. This is not new. Congressman, senators, blackmail being used by intelligence agencies. None of it's new. It was pioneered by the mafia. You're having sex with somebody who's underage, then they own you forever. or if they have photo, audio, video of you doing that. >> Wild. Wild. So, if that existed at all in the 1990s, okay, >> that Mitch McConnell guy was around back then. You know, a lot of these Nancy Pelosi type people, they've been around since this photos of Nancy Pelosi with JFK. Think of that. >> That was before we didn't go to the moon. >> Yeah. >> It's 1963. >> That was before Israel didn't kill him. >> You think so? I didn't say anything. >> I heard you say Israel killed him. >> You did? >> That's what I heard. Maybe. >> Jamie, did you put something in this? >> They didn't. The glasses. They didn't do it. Oh, before Israel didn't do it. Oh, I see what you did. >> I think uh >> I didn't say anything. >> I think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. >> Lee Harvey Oswald went to my middle school. Do you know that? >> No. >> Yep. >> What? No [ __ ] Was there a plaque? >> Uh, [laughter] no. We did have a thing. There was a thing >> that everybody recognized. >> Lo. Yeah. LH you guys called him. >> Yeah, >> like Elron Hubard. [laughter] >> LHR. They all salute Elron Hover. Salute LHR with a big Ever see Tom Cruz with a big pie plate medal. He got a medal for being the most awesome guy ever. >> He [laughter] did. >> Yeah. From Scientology. And he salutes the photo of of a science fiction writer. Bro, it's the kookiest thing. You never seen >> plate, >> bro. They does he even seen those desserts Scientology awards? >> Nuhuh. >> They're >> I can see him eating a lot of desserts. Really? >> They're amazing. >> I didn't even know that. >> Look at that pie. >> The times now. >> Okay. These are the times we will all remember. >> Were you there? >> What did you do? >> I think you know that I am there for you and I do care. So very very very much. >> What is this about? Is this a Marie Calendar's ad? >> Bro, what this is is amazing. Just watch this. >> Okay. Sorry. >> Guys, we're counting on you. >> Right. >> To Lrh. >> To LR. Wow. [laughter] >> Crazy, right, bro? You want a Mission Impossible guy? You want that guy? That's what you get. Okay? You don't get a normal dude who's that good at acting. You get a [ __ ] crazy person >> who's that good at being himself >> with a pie plate around his neck. A golden pie plate for being the most awesome guy ever. >> He salutes a science [laughter] fiction author who's, by the way, one of the worst writers in the history of writing. >> Elron, I've done the thing in New York where they try to electrocute you and see if you care about him or whatever. >> Oh, I I got that. >> You know what I'm talking about? I did that in San Diego. >> You did? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> When? I was filming a TV show down there and uh you know we were in the middle of a break while we're filming and um they had like a like a conference table set up. It was like free personality test >> and I [clears throat] was like what is this? And I kind of knew what it was. I knew it was dietetics, you know, which is Scientology. >> Mhm. >> But the guy was like they made him do it. You could tell he was like not enthusiastic at all about it. You know, he would like ask you questions about like has one of your pets died like that kind of [ __ ] like you hold his e-meter and it would just I'm like how does this work? Like what what is actually making this happen? You know, I had all these questions that he had no answers for [laughter] just and then I started. >> Of course you did. That's your whole life. >> Elron Huard wrote more fiction >> Yeah. >> than any human being that's ever lived. >> He wrote more things that were not true, more published fiction than any human being in the history of all human beings. that guy, the guy that created Scientology. >> And you know how he did it? It was all terrible. He never wrote a second draft. Everything was just nonsense. >> One hit wonder. >> One hit wonder. That's kind of >> typing. Uh brave. He was nuts. He was out of his mind. >> But people liked it enough though. >> Did you ever see that show? They didn't though. He wasn't successful until he really started. I mean, he was he did a lot of those like goofy magazines and stuff. This is a long time ago, you got to realize. But then once he started religion, that's when things took off. That's when like started making money. Gave himself a lot of He gave himself a bunch of awards, too. You ever see like he had he wore a jacket and he had like all these awards on his chest that he had given himself. [laughter] >> That's crazy. [laughter] >> They love to give awards. >> That's like the Golden Globes or whatever. >> Yeah, same thing. You know, it really is. [laughter] >> They give themselves awards for being the most awesome people. How cra I mean that whole it's all [ __ ] ridiculous weird but that's what I'm feel I feel like all of these balls of yarn that used to feel like they made so much sense >> and they kept us warm and they gave us senses of purpose I feel like all of them are becoming unraveled but it makes me wonder what's going to happen now are we because these are a lot of things that have felt like some of the blueprints of our existence you know >> you know what makes me nervous >> does that make any sense to you when I say that 100% >> cuz that's kind of what I guess I'm most scared about I think like even this year it's like some of my sense of purpose or like I just worry that other people don't have a sense of purpose or what's going on and it makes me kind of scared sometimes. >> Well, that's a good perspective and I think it's accurate. Um, what makes me nervous is the people that are not aware that all of our assumptions of how the government works, we're all based on [ __ ] The people that still believe that are like true believers of one side or the other, true faith in government and experts, those people make me more nervous cuz some of them are smart. That's what's crazy. When smart people are completely unwilling to recognize that conspiracies are not just real, but they're also not rare, they're they're very common. They're common and people get away with them. Yeah. especially when they're in positions of extreme power like running intelligence agencies. Like they and there's a lot of things that they do that are morally reprehensible but totally legal. Like they can do it because they're allowed to because they are a three-letter organization and they have ultimate power to do a lot of like really gross things that are in the nature or or in the the interest of national security. So like this is the whole idea behind it. They say like this is our our decision. This is the best move for national security. This is how we compromise assets. This is how we gather information. This is how we keep America safe. >> But are they're not our why is it our FBI and CIA are working against us? That's what it feels like. They're just tricking us about everything. It feels like >> they're tricking some people um on purpose. >> But why why is that even their goal? Like I thought that they >> because they're trying to arrest people. So this is the problem with your career. Like, and this has been explained to me by a lot of people that are experts and people that know. John Caracow explained it this way. Your your reputation is based on how successful you have been arresting people, cracking cases. >> And so, people set up cases so they can break them. >> They basically set up an escape room and they're like, I know how to get out of here. [laughter] >> And they pretend that they're just like a regular wizard that stumbled into the escape room. No, you set the whole thing up. Yeah, that's what it is. Well, it's the same as like >> there's a bunch of those stories. >> Oh, I think it's the same as even with like Hollywood and you know, I remember one day I was walking in the Century City Mall over there. It's in Los Angeles. It's off of Santa Monica Boulevard >> and there was a uh like a blueco collar guy walking by. He had him like he was working construction. They were building something there. And I was like he's like Theo, what's up, man? So, we're talking for a minute and I was like, "What are y'all building?" He's like, "Dude, you're never even going to believe this. we're building. He's like 10 10 floors, 20 floor building. He's like, 10 floors are uh uh talent agency and the other 10 floors are for the CIA. And I was like, what? I was like just in the same building just happened to be that's what you're building. He's like, yep, that's what we're building. And he wasn't lying. I don't think he was lying to me. It just seemed like a it was just >> a weird mixture. >> Yeah. >> Right. But I think that this starts to happen. News stories get created, right? things get whether they're fictional, whatever goes on, you don't even know a lot of times what's news stories. You can send actors out to create a scene. You see a video, you believe it. Um and then they make movies. >> That's been done before, >> right? That's been done before. >> Oh, yeah. There was but then you see movies and stuff come out later about it. So, it's like you're almost creating your own um news to then make like a uh based on a real story. You know what I'm talking about? >> Yeah. >> Like it's all just a >> I guess. [laughter] Yeah. Like they they let the talent agencies know that they're about to do this so you can start casting the the dramatic. [laughter] >> It makes sense cuz it's like then you're just you're >> God. >> But it's just like what do we do? You know, >> well they've been doing this forever. They've been doing this forever and you know they've been shaping our views of war and you know that's one of the reasons why they started making all these war movies. >> Do you know that? [clears throat] >> Okay. So, in World War I, one of the problems that they had was people didn't want to be over there killing people. Yeah. >> And so, people were shooting, but they weren't shooting at the actual enemy. They would like shoot over their heads or shoot to the left of them and to the right of them. They didn't want to kill people. >> And they realized like that you take people just regular people from the city and from the farm and put them in a uniform and tell them they have to go kill people. This is no YouTube back then, no television back then, right? So their ideas of what's right and wrong are all based on their life. Yeah. Their actual life. And so then they realized, well, we've got to do something about that. And so after that, they started creating all these really patriotic war movies where the guys are heroes. They go over and they shoot all the bad guys and then they're awesome. So then the next group of people that go to war are all going to be indoctrinated with these films. And these films are that America's the best and we're number one. We're going to go over there and this is how you get all the girls. You be a [ __ ] hero and go over there and shoot those Germans. >> Yeah. And come back and play with a tit. >> Exactly. Come back and get ridden like a [ __ ] cowboy. >> Yeah. >> Tits will be here when you get off the boat. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> baby girl. >> And that's uh that's what they did. They they mean >> makes sense >> for sure. Advertising. >> The CIA and you know various federal organizations have a say in how America's portrayed in movies, right? Right. It's like if you're going to get access to if you're going to do some film on the, you know, the Pentagon or something like that, you you bet [ __ ] this better make us look good, you know? They're not going to let you make them look like a bunch of bumbling [ __ ] retards that are just doing it for their career. No, you better make us look good. You can't fake what the Pentagon is, [ __ ] You know, and you're like, "Okay, sir. What? Tell me how you'd like Mr. Cruz to talk about his work." >> And you know, you'd make them look like the most awesome human beings that have ever been. So that way you like you want to support them, you want to fund them, and you want to listen to them when they talk it on the news. >> Well, in a lot of like the projects, I think they have to have people from these organizations that come and like oversee how the organization is presented, right? >> Yeah. So, it's like if you want to do something where the Navy's involved, you have to have people there from the Navy that are like overseeing it and making sure that everything is uh presented um to, you know, to be true to the Navy, but also like there could be maybe some manipulation there. But we just had Gary Sice was on the podcast. Man, it was really cool. >> Oh, he's cool, >> dude. If you ever want to donate to something or people do, man, what just an impressive his whole organization is >> What is he doing? >> Well, he does a lot of stuff for veterans, right? He does a lot of stuff for first responders, you know, or EMTs. >> Um, he does a lot of stuff for um >> he does this thing where they take kids who have lost a fan a parent to the in uh military action. Um he takes them to Disney World every year like this big group of them, you know. Um >> just but just like really >> like does it, you know, like he has a band that plays. He there's a bunch of organizations. cuz he was like one of the first responders of um out there feeding people uh feeding the first responders who were there at the Palisades when that happened. Just like a lot of neat stuff, you know, did >> you ever think you'd be in the position you're in where you're just having all these weird conversations with interesting people? >> Cuz this is not like >> No. >> When I first met you, I would have never suspected that this would be a path that you would go down. >> Yeah. Not at all. You know, it's interesting that you went down that like how what what led you to want to start doing that? >> Well, I think a couple of things. I think um >> well, I think I I didn't know I was kind of competitive in some ways, >> you know, like I think um I think I'm kind of competitive. Like I want to see what's possible that's maybe inside of me, >> you know? [clears throat] >> So competitive with yourself or competitive with other people that are also doing it? um just competitive because I think I I there was I felt like maybe some people thought this thing like oh this guy can't do it >> you know interesting >> I don't think that's I think there were some people that maybe like oh I'm surprised that this guy enjoys this or likes doing it but I think there was like yeah that this guy can't do it and I just never had a voice when I was a kid you know I never had a voice >> like >> you know so much of my childhood I think I just couldn't even speak up for myself I didn't even know what I wanted to say. I didn't even know what my feelings were, right? I just >> right. >> I was just like this. I just >> it it just felt tough, you know? And so I think when >> yeah, when I started to kind of get into podcasting and have a little bit more of a voice >> and then >> to get to talk to some people that I that that that I felt like were important that weren't getting voices, like even like we had a doctor from Gaza on last year >> or this year and that was like a moment for me. I was like, "Oh, this is important stuff." You know, like um other people aren't putting this voice out there, right? Some people are, but like the mainstream media I don't feel like was doing a good job of it. This episode is brought to you by blinds.com. You ever notice how much your environment affects your mood, the way your place looks, the lighting. Nothing kills the vibe faster than bad lighting. Blinds.com makes upgrading your space ridiculously easy. They've basically blown up the whole old school window treatment game. No pushy salespeople coming into your house. No hidden costs. With Blinds.com, you're in control. 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I mean, the the reason why we can do what we do is because there's not really anyone over there doing they never figured this out before. They never figured out that hey, there's a lot of people that are in their car for hours every day. They're on the train for hours every day. They're in the gym. They're doing different stuff where they want to listen to things. Or when they come home, they don't want to watch late night TV. They want to watch an interesting conversation, you know, >> and that just they didn't know that that was a thing. That's all that was. We snuck in. I think we snuck in. I think they had no idea. They thought this was just shitty radio. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> and I think my whole life, I think people looked at me and thought, "Oh, this dude's just [ __ ] shitty radio, >> you know, or off the beat like that in a way, you know." Well, I think like when was >> and I still think it is my show. I mean, look, I feel lucky to have a show. We work hard, you know, with podcasting. I feel lucky to get to talk to a lot of people. I don't think we do a lot of information type of stuff, you know, and I wish we could do better with that sometimes. I think maybe that's a goal of mine next year is to try to learn more stuff just in the day-to-day so I can have conversations that are maybe more important, but then also maybe that's not what I'm supposed to do and I'm just supposed to be just having conversations that are fun. And so, >> well, I it's what you're supposed to do if that's what you want to do. >> But what I think is the only important thing, the only important thing >> is what you want to do. >> Yeah. And >> to be genuinely curious about whatever you're talking about. >> I agree. >> You know, and then hopefully be talking to someone who's telling the truth. That's where it gets weird. >> You know, sometimes people will be charismatic and they'll be very persuasive, but it it turns out they have an agenda. They're not telling the truth. And you might not know that. that that becomes a problem. Yeah, I realize some people are taking advantage of the fact that uh that they'll come on and I I sometimes have been a little bit naive to think that somebody would do that, but people do do that. >> Oh, 100%. Like heads of state, you know, like if you're going to
