Jon Aaron Bray Presents Technical Analysis of Charlie Kirk Incident Using AI Enhanced Frame by Frame Investigation

This is my [music] [music] feel. [music] >> [music] [music] >> Hey everyone, how's it going? Let me turn this music down a little bit more. We have John Bray in the house again. I know a lot of you guys are excited to uh hear his updates. We'll give people a few minutes to to come on in. Yeah, I'm not People keep saying that uh they don't know what time it was at, but it said six on the the invite and all that stuff and it said six on YouTube. So hopefully that's all working correctly. You know how the platform tends to mess with people. Jordan Henshaw in the house. Say Kimberly allegedly maybe perhaps welcome Oxy 18. Lacy Tulip, nice to see everyone in here. And while you guys are on your way in, make sure you hit that like. And if you have a chance, make sure you hit that poll, too. It looks like about 86% of you think that John's theory is still the leading theory. I think it's Let me see. Yeah, 83%. It's pretty high. It's pretty high percentage. And let's see for you. I want to see what the second leading one is. So, it looks like official narrative is 1%. So, 1% of people believe the official narrative. Alternative shooter or position is 6%. Mike theories 83% and it was faked is about 10%. Very interesting. All right. Everyone says, "Hey, good to see you, John." If you guys haven't met John Bray, he is the um the leading researcher and one of the originals on the microphone theory. And there are certain words that we can't say due to the platform, but it's the microphone that was on his chest that may have had an event. That is what we're talking about here today. And make sure you go check John out as people are coming in. We have John Bray on X. It's John Aaron Bray. A A R O N. And then of course he has his website, which we'll be getting to in a moment as well. And uh they do health products like uh what would you call it? Health and wellness products. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> All right, we'll go ahead and I'll do my little my little intro and then we'll get [laughter] started. Tonight, we're diving into the newest update surrounding John Bray's technical analysis, the slowed down footage, waveform discussions, frame comparisons, and the questions that are now being asked by people on both sides of this debate. This is moving fast. New angles are being posted, and new enhancements are being shared. and what some are calling previously unnoticed details are now front and center, including old evidence that is proving to be something that should still be pursued. Now, let me be very clear. We are not here to make definitive claims or accuse anyone of wrongdoing. These are John's opinions and findings. We're here to examine John's material. His theory has been well researched, very well researched, and he's going to walk us through his discoveries and testing. And he's going to walk through the physics and timeline step by step so you can make up your own mind. because whether you agree with John or not, his work has forced a deeper technical conversation that people can't ignore. So, we're going to go through his latest updates. We're going to talk about key clips. We're going to talk about data and testing he's done now with you said Claude and AI, correct? With Cloud AI. >> Yeah. A lot of different agents, uh, Claude, Kimmy, uh, Gro. I kind of use them use them all in conjunction. >> So, he basically took the stuff he was doing before and supercharged it. And he'll get more into that. And then we're going to talk about what the data does and does not show according to John and his uh agents. And then we'll take questions live obviously. So quick announcements. Make sure you guys hit that like so YouTube pushes this out. And then thanks to all the moderators and channel members for your support and we will take questions at the end. Super chats always get priority. Let's get into it. John, did you want to do a quick introduction of yourself for people who have never met you before? >> Yeah. Uh you know, I was brought into this. I saw the video the day the event happened. It It didn't look right to me. My background's in body armor. I thought he had a vest on when I first saw it and it ricocheted. So I, you know, immediately started kind of creating the code so I could um identify where in the vest he was struck. And before I even finished that code, I realized that he didn't have a vest on. So then I modified the code just to show me kind of like where the epicenter of the event was. And that led me down the whole rabbit hole of figuring out why the epicenter of the energetic event we witnessed was, you know, right around the location of the microphone that he was wearing. And it's really interesting because a lot of people obviously there's still theories that are going around and people are defending their specific theories and, you know, they put a lot of work into it so it makes sense, but there's a lot of things that supported it. For example, there were images that came out from Candace um that I believe you supplied to her that show little particles that were flying out of his shirt and things and um you know, black particles that were on the floor of the vehicle. We see uh you know, things that might resemble possibly burns or something similar in certain areas of his body and his shirt and things like that. So, there's there's clues that also support this, but you're going to get obviously much more in depth into specifics and science back stuff and um AI testing and things that you did, but what made you go down this path in the first place? >> Well, really just, you know, I have a teenage son and I know how easily, you know, teenagers are swayed and uh I felt kind of empathy for Tyler and his situation. you know, all the stuff that they were leaking out about him was just a the famous character. Like I felt like there was no one defending him or or you know, trying to at least you give him the benefit of the doubt and allow the evidence to show you know what who was really responsible. Um and so, you know, just a parental empathy of understanding not only, you know, the situation he was in, but the situation his parents were in, I just felt like I could I could help him. and there was nobody else willing to. So that's really, you know, what what drew me to to do it. And then seeing, you know, Charlie's legacy kind of eroded away by the actions of his his, you know, organization after he passed, that just led fuel to the fire and, you know, kept me motivated to keep looking. And the more suspicious they acted, the more convinced I was that, you know, they possibly had something to do with it. And just really quick for people that are new, what is your what are your biggest arguments against the official narrative? >> Well, I think that the order of events energetically. So, you know, you you have there's different signatures that we have from all the videos that we have. So, you have the the sound, right? And that's that's pretty obvious. And then you have the actual physical actions of the the garments that he was wearing. Then you have the physical action of the devices and the jewelry that he was wearing, his necklace and the microphone. And then you have his physical action. And when you analyze all these independently, and none of them really each one of them have an issue with the official narrative, but when you combine them together, they all point you to a direction that's the opposite of the official narrative. Um, you know, it it at a glance it could appear, you know, if if you didn't look in to it other than just the surface that the official narr could be plausible, but as soon as you start peeling back the layers, it's just every layer makes it less likely that we're being told the the full story of what unfolded that day. >> Now, did you know that Tyler's defense actually brought up some of these other um opposing theories to the official narrative? Did you know about that? >> Yeah, I did. I tracked down his defense. I've been sending them prisons packages. I've been making, you know, official, you know, like like I'm working for him, sending it to them, hoping that they'll do something with it. I would imagine that not a lot's going to happen with it. So, that's that's part of the reason I um I made the website to make this information public so they can they can't say that they never saw it and they didn't know anything about it. the same packages that I provided Tyler's defense team, I'm gonna make available to download for everyone so they can look at it and and you know, make their mind up for themselves. But I'm not going to allow, you know, the kid to be railroaded and not have any defense. You know, even if it's a frugal attempt on my on my part, I'm going to make an attempt to at least try to prove his innocence. >> And that's a a little teaser. He may or may not be working on a site that may be coming out here shortly and uh putting a lot of work into it and it's basically going to package all this nicely into a a domain. Correct. >> Yes, sir. It'll all be available all all my forensic work, all my files, all my maps, all my all my data be available for everyone to see and download and you know do what they wish. Um, it's the only way that we can really, you know, fight against the the the banana courts and the closed court cases. We can't really depend on hearing all the facts that are presented. So, if I can, you know, shed light on things that won't be otherwise exposed, it's it's my duty to do so. So, I'm I'm taking the extra effort to make sure that, you know, everything's clean and everything's, you know, well documented and available for everyone. Awesome. And I know a lot of people are very appreciative of your work, you know, the research that you've done. And uh there's other things that are tied to this for people that are newer. For example, um there's a a factory that blew up in Tennessee, and it may or may not have connections to this. And they made um they made objects that could have been used for something like this event. And shortly after they were brought up or kind of discovered as possibly being connected, they strangely enough had the entire factory go up. Yeah. So, 20 days later, 20 days after I I I brought up the possibility of the devices that that they that they manufacture possibly being, you know, associated with the event. The the whole manufacturing facility, production manager, 16 employees all, you know, literally to the the the slab of the building. There wasn't a wall standing left anymore. like all the evidence that could have been gathered, all the witnesses that could have, you know, shed light on what they were doing or what they produced or when they delivered it gone. So, which is obviously a terrible situation. And there were some interviews afterwards, too, of the ones that survived. They weren't there, but they left right before. And uh even those interviews are a little strange. They almost seem rehearsed and uh maybe like actors, but you know, it but either way, it's terrible loss. That's That's a horrible thing to happen. >> Yeah. >> Now, I'm just looking at >> I'm just looking at questions here really quick. Some people are asking um so obviously you're on X. Do you also do you have a a direct email that people can send to or >> Yeah, John Aaron. John Aaron Bray at MSN. I'm very creative with my name [laughter] or it's at Gmail. Sorry. Uh yeah, John Aaron Bray at Gmail. And then uh John Aaron Bray Instagram too. my um I did uh the latest video I put on Instagram. It's done really well on the reels. It's like over a million views. So um I finally figured out how to present things where they don't get, you know, deleted or smashed or Yeah. or just shadowed. So >> yep. So if you want to follow John, it's John Aaron Bray. It sounds like he's on Instagram. It's John Aaron Braygmail.com. And then also he has his uh his website. And we can show that here really quick and then we'll get into everything else. So, we have Blue Mountain Farms. It's blue mountainfarmok.com and I have that down in the description of the video. But he does like health products, health and wellness. So, they have beverages. Um, a lot of people are loving the tallow. >> Yeah, my wife has she's always had very sensitive skin. So, we basically, you know, started this company to make products that she needed. And uh it's a problem that a lot of people deal with. You know, there's, you know, you don't get much answers from a dermatologist or regular doctor. They just want to give you steroids or something other. Um so we make good clean alternatives to kind of the corporate slot that you find in the grocery store. And the support's been incredible. Your your um you know, your viewers have have been you know, it's a life-changing amount of support. And my work has been greatly, you know, helped by that. I've been able to buy things, the, you know, computers and pay for Macs of the of the AI agents. I wouldn't been able to go as far as I have if it wasn't the for the support of everyone that's, you know, even if it's just a lip balm, everything makes a difference. And it's really changing my family's life for the better. And uh I'm gonna make sure I keep working for the truth and keep pushing forward and applying, you know, the the support that you guys have and keep making good use of it. >> Yeah, that's awesome. I think we uh got you sold out a few times, too, didn't we? >> Oh, yeah. We've been working working very hard just to keep up with it all, but it it's great. you know, we've been able to scale up and uh buy the things we need to really, you know, keep up with the the business and it ends up, you know, every dollar that they spend ends up making our lives a little easier and then I get some free hours that I can spend on you trying to figure out more about little details. Every little bit, you know, puts the puzzles together and the picture comes clear and, you know, I feel like that we'll be able to make a big difference by the, you know, the end of this [clears throat] before the court case is over. if if it doesn't make any difference in court, at least the public opinion, I have a better idea of what really happened that day. >> All right, awesome. So, now that we've done the intro and everything else, um, this obviously this whole thing is not an infomercial for your website, but I always share that because obviously it helps you out. That's the best way people can support you. And then if anyone wants to contact you, um, it sounds like the best way is X. And if you don't have an X account, then you can do John Aaron Bray at Gmail. But let's go ahead and get into it. So since last time we talked, you've had quite a few updates and changes. So do you want to kind of explain to the audience and myself the the technology piece that you've brought in and kind of the agents that you've set up? >> Yeah. So um basically like the analysis you the we hadn't had any new assets, you know, available to us. We're all reviewing the same the same videos, the same information that's been available. There's been little little things here and there like Candace with the video with the pictures of the floorboard of the SUV, but really just kind of go digging in deeper to what we already have to pick up details that we missed the first time. You know that you know there's so much in those few seconds of video um that you could really miss it and you know every angle has a different key factor in kind of explaining what happened that day. So, just rehashing over going back over the videos I've already reviewed, developing new code. Um, so I developed a new heat map code that's a lot cleaner. It's a lot better at detecting just the the movements of the epicenter. Um, and that that helped really kind of not only reveal the um the area of the epicenter, but the kind of the order of events. So, you know, every angle kind of has a little different details that you can pick out. Um, and that led me to kind of really hone in on the first few seconds or milliseconds of the event. really like go in frame by frame and analyze every single frame from every single every single camera angle that day at the very beginning of the event because that is going to lend more credibility to where it where it originates. And so that um that original kind of like analysis of the very first reviews immediately I go to the highest quality video available which is Cubs which is 1080p 60 frames per second on an iPhone 15 Pro and it's almost like directly sideways from so you're seeing like a complete profile view of Charlie. So, it gives you a really good um kind of uh analysis of the initial movements. And so, from looking at that, I was able to kind of use uh Charlie or Cub's angle and then Mark's angle, which was recorded with the exact same model phone, but running at 30 frames per second, and combine those together to basically give the the in between shutter speeds. So the event happened so fast that even the 60 frame per second camera couldn't capture at all. But because there was two cameras of the exact same make recording the event, the shutter speed difference between the two, they basically fill in the blanks for each other. And because they're offset slightly, it gives you like a stereotropic view where it's almost like you can combine the two and get a depth perception of the event. So, I took the two views and I combined them together and mapped the energies of kind of like where the shock wave uh travels and the effects it has not only on the shirt but the flesh, his hair. And I was able to really hone in on um where the u the the first effects of the shock wave come from. And it when you really follow that back, it even pinpoints it down into a smaller area. And this is the new code for the the mapping. It's a lot cleaner. It shows you just the movement of the of the shirt. So you see just the the heat mapping of the areas that move the most. And so it gives you a a much better impression that the collar was the um the item that had the most dramatic movement. And um the speed of which it moved was well before any of the other areas of the shirt. And it all originates from the right side which you know and then you have you see the sleeve it's it's not only because it's such a dramatic movement on the the right side collar that it ends up affecting the sleeve also. So you basically have gas escaping from all directions on that right side. So you have the the front collar, the rear collar, and the sleeve affected from it because it's looking for the path of least resistance to escape out of. So everywhere where gas could quickly slide underneath the shirt and escape out, you see dramatic movement. So that's why you see that that sleeve pull up dramatically. You see the back of the collar, you know, get blown out and stretched. And then you see the front of the collar kind of jump up and then move kind of trajectory across his his body. Then you combine all this >> with the um the necklace. [clears throat] So you know the necklace in a single frame it goes from resting on his chest to being snapped and almost halfway over his face. And so I combined all that movement and basically calculated how much energy it would take for that to happen. And so you know the the idea is we know the area that it came from. Now we have to kind of theorize where the energy source could have came from. And so the lithium battery in it could produce a if it had a runaway effect, right? if it had a battery failure, it could produce enough energy to technically snap the necklace and fly it over his head, but not at this speeds that we saw. So, it's it at least eliminates that as a possibility. And so, now we're left with All right. So, now we're in this general area where this device was, we have enough energy to snap a necklace and throw it up over his head in a single frame, which is beyond the amount of energy that the the battery in it. And you know a cascade battery failure could create. We have massive deformation of the shirt. We have gas escaping out from underneath the shirt and all the available you know areas it can the sleeve the collar front and back. And we have a shock wave that travels over his flesh. All this happens within, you know, the the the a single frame of a 60 frame per second video. And in between the shutter speeds of two cameras that are watching from the same angle. So the the the speed at which we see it, you're only left with a few options of things that can create that sort of effect at at the speeds that we saw. Um, and none of those options could be explained by a rifle impact on the opposite side of his body in zone two of his neck, right? You know, there's no amount of cavitation that would cause, you know, gas deformation on the shirt and uh the the trajectory of the microphone across his body. >> Well, there's the pieces here like for example, I'll pause it if I can in the right spot. Like the freedom. >> Yeah. I mean that like you can get shot all day long. It's not going to deform the shirt like that. Especially before you see the wound. >> Yeah. And it's not going to pull your collar up around your face with a square silhouette under it. You know, it's it's obviously that we can see the general trajectory of the movement that was underneath the shirt by the movement of the magnetic clasp that was attached to his shirt. And you see the magnetic clasps, it it it lags behind the movement of the objects, the battery and the circuit board that was underneath the shirt because the the whole device was mounted underneath the shirt. So the magnetic class is kind of the key to see where the where the energy traveled before it it's it's just has the leftover trajectory of what we saw from the inards of the device. And so that led me to the next thing. I I identified the gas escaping from the collar of the shirt. You could see the not only the deformation from the collar, but then you see the actual, you know, distortion of the um of the the visuals of the crowd from that side view. You can see on the edge of the collar a slight movement and then you see like distortion kind of like a mirage where you know the heat distorts the the image that you're that you're seeing. You could see in the first frame of movement the same frame that cap captures the the back of the shirt collar stretching out. You see a little puff of gas that's just enough to distort the the view of the crowd that's beside them. And so >> that is >> this right here. Yeah. So then I ran. Yeah. Exactly. And you see that's that's a person's shirt that's behind them. Basically you're seeing like the shoulder of their shirt, but you see like the >> Yeah, that's his neck. And then the the hard line is the collar of his shirt. And then you see it kind of like round about. And so you can see that it's coming out from underneath his shirt. And then it distorts all the the the light that it it's basically the camera's looking through that that puff of hot gas and it's distorting the image that's behind it. And so that black spot right there and then the wispiness around it, you're basically seeing that mirage effect from that hot gas distorting the light. It's ray casting it that's traveling through. And it's a little harder to see in the other spectrums, but when you see it in movement, it's a lot easier to see. you just see the little ghosting of the red edge of the shirt there. Um, but when you see it in motion, it's a lot easier to see because it's not there and then it's there. But basically, that's the very first frame of uh of the 60 frame per second video. The 30 frames per second video doesn't capture that at all. So, you know, that is a really fast event. [clears throat] And interesting enough, the the 30 frames per second video captures the the rear shirt collar stretched out much further than the 60 frames per second video. So, you know, it had to be in between those 60 frames per second that of um that the shirt collar stretched out to such a degree that the 30 frames per second was able to capture it, you know, cleanly, clearly, but the 60 frames didn't capture it. it captured it in mid-motion where it's, you know, half as stretched as the 30 frames per second. So, you combine all these things together, we had a basically a a hot gas expanding at speeds that were quick enough to to be in between the shutter speeds of a 60 frames per second video, which is, you know, you can't really explain that any other way uh than a than a high energy event. And then the shock wave across his face, it completely distorts the flesh of his face. Like it almost looks AI the way like his whole shape of his face changes because that hot gas is not just escaping from the sleeve or the collar, but it's traveling up his face. And you see his hair blow up from it also. Um, so you know, it's gas that's not just localized. is traveling a good distance and it's sending a a a force that's basically like a a the a seismic wave through his soft flesh. Um and then you combine that with his physical reaction where you immediately see his knees clasp together, his hands close, his elbows flex out. Those first few seconds were fatal to Charlie before we ever saw a neck wound even appear. you know, the shirt collar was still raised up before, you know, the the the rectangular neck wound appears, before any bleeding, we already see signs that he had severe brain trauma and, you know, that it was fatal in those first few frames. Yeah. And then the again, you see the the shirt sleeve gets pulled up dramatically. The necklace, the same frame, the necklace is halfway up over his face. And then you see how bright that is around his shirt collar. Like the amount of energy that was displaced in that area is so fast that you know all the cameras captured a little bit different uh portion of it where it was so so quick that it was faster than the the actual steel frames could capture. But the different shutter speeds of all the different cap cameras were able to capture slightly different effects from it. And it made me actually write off a few of these video angles at first because I couldn't explain it. Like why would one camera capture a completely unique frame where another camera that was right by it wouldn't capture it at all. >> Yeah. >> And it wasn't until I looked into it, saw the speed that these these kind of uh these chemicals can react at that I could explain it. You know, you look at the the speeds of the shutter speeds like a 60 frames per second to get smooth frames. They call it like the 180 rule. The shutter speed is like 180 uh frames quicker than that. So, you know, there's time enough in between it when you're looking at milliseconds of action. There's time enough in between those different speeds of shutter speeds that you could have these these actions happen and have one camera capture and another camera not capture it. um you know the um the speed that the magnet moves was the first thing that drew me in. But at first I was convinced that the magnetic clasp is what caused the neck wound. It wasn't until I realized that the shirt collar was raised up by the circuit board that you know it made me um you know understand that the whatever caused the circuit board to move at such speed. It was a lot faster than the magnetic clasp moved and the circuit board was attached to the battery and the battery happened to be the exact same size as the magnetic clasp. So, you know, the shape of the neck wound is and the trajectory of the magnetic clasp is what led me to come to the conclusion that the neck wound was caused by the magnetic clasp. But once I actually got the device and I took it apart and I saw that the battery was the exact same size as the magnetic clasp, it made a lot more sense. It was a lot cleaner that whatever made the neck win was underneath the shirt because you know the shirt was raised up and we don't see the neck for a second and then the shirt falls back down and then he has a rectangle wound there. So whatever you know that movement and the speed of the movement it makes a lot more sense that whatever was attached to that circuit board is what caused the neck wound and the batteries obviously attached to the circuit board. to, you know, that led me to re-examine kind of like the wound effects and um kind of the flow of the blood, the delay bleeding, and that became apparent that there's no way that this was a high velocity impact. We didn't witness, you know, a supersonic impact. We would have seen blood immediately. What we had witnessed was a a wound with with you know directional deformation that took almost a half a second to start to bleed and once it did start to bleed we have like hardedged you know right angled object falling out of the wound from two different angles. So you know you can't the blood doesn't naturally make right angles. it doesn't have the same ratio of of of you know rectangle shape as as a as the battery. Um and it kind of explains not only the rectangular shape of the wound but the delayed bleeding of the wound that the battery was basically plugging the wound for you know 4 seconds and when as he fell over the battery comes dislodged and then we see the heavy bleeding come after it. And so, you know, being able to kind of color map and look at the different angles and I actually have analysis that I haven't finished up yet that I've been able to map the battery on the way down to the ground. So, you know, we we have a two different cameras that captured it falling out of the neck and then I have a third camera that sees it falling to the ground. So, you know, it's hard to refute the fact that there was a a a solid object that struck his neck and the neck wound was an entry wound and exit wound. And, you know, that that not only explains a lot of the kind of the physical traits of the wound, but the type of bleeding that we saw was obviously blood from his jugular. It was deoxxygenated blood. It wasn't pulsating. So it wasn't like driven from the the his heartbeat his pulse and you know the jugular vein is just a few centimeters underneath this muscle here >> close. >> Yeah. The way the way Charlie's arms were extended in between his legs. It kind of the SMC muscle gets flexed there and it almost makes like a hammock. You can see how it kind of like captures it and the jugler runs right on the inside of it. So, you know, with his arms extended out that the the event happens, the circuit board travels right in front of his neck and the the battery just happens to have enough momentum and the trajectory to kind of catch into that area. And you see the deformation of his neck. Like there's like a a weird bulge that happens for a frame or two and then it relaxes out and then you see this just weird rectangular shape on his neck for like two or three frames and it's just there. It's not like there's no mist. There's no like nothing on the shirt and then all of a sudden bof we see, you know, the and it wasn't pulsing blood. It was like someone pouring it out of a picture. It was cuz it was deoxxygenated blood from his brain. The jugular drains the blood from your brain. So, it was basically that blunt impact was enough to to, you know, rupture his jugular vein, but it didn't bleed immediately because the battery was lodged in there. And as soon as the battery falls out, it's just like pulling the plug off a picture. And then we see that that strange dark deoxxygenated blood. So, you know, I can understand people thinking that it's like a Hollywood squib or fake because it looks so strange like it's dark. It's It's like globbly and it doesn't like it doesn't look like you would expect blood to look from a wound like that. >> Yeah. I think it's the delay that really got my attention at first because I was looking for just like Valhalla said when you were on with Valhalla in that uh debate before, you know, one of the biggest things he brought up was in a gunshot wound, you would expect like pink mist, you you expect even if it was even if there was no exit wound. Yeah. Yeah, >> you would still expect something to come out of the entry >> and we don't we don't see that. At least not on video, right? Have been super fast, but we don't see anything like that. >> Yeah. And it's a long time. Like that's like it's like two to three frames that you just see a rectangular wound, you know, and it's just like the deformation of the the cavitation of the neck, the stretching was was nothing lined up with a high velocity impact of any caliber. >> Um >> no pun intended. >> Yeah. And you just don't the his his physical reaction precedes that. You know, you would expect to see, you know, impact to the neck and then see the the traits of, you know, the the physical reaction from that. And it seems like there was little to no reaction to the impact of the neck. Like the reactions happened before that. you know, the shirt collar is still up and you see his arms go up and, you know, the shirt is still relaxing out as he's raising his arms up and going over. It's just, like I said, the order of events is really what's most striking at it. When you really break it down frame by frame, it's hard to explain all the different things that we see like all the the physical characteristics, the movement of the shirt, the necklace, you know, is probably the hardest thing to explain about the official narrative. Like his his necklace snapping, like it's a squared link necklace. I believe it was stainless steel or sterling silver. Like they're pretty heavy links. It's not something that's easy to snap. And then you're snapping it and and like sending it flying over his head in a just a few frames. Like you don't even see it transition from rest to flying. Like it's immediately within a frame. It's flying up and over his head. >> Yeah. >> Um and it's just that it's on the wrong side. There's just it's it's really hard to explain any other way than that there was an energetic event at his chest collarbone area. Um not at the neck area. the neck was like a secondary event. So, you know, that that led me down trying to once I got to the point where you see the gas movement, you see the necklace movement. I map the amount of energy that it took to do it. There's like clearly something happening and around that area. So, let's see if we can find some, you know, cooperation, some some evidence elsewhere, some secondary energy that kind of follows with it. Um, and so that's when I started looking at all the different angles of audio from the event to see if the the timing of the movement and the physical reactions that we saw how how exactly they lined up. And um again, I went to Cub's video because it's the best quality video and it he was pretty close and to the right and I started to discover a pattern that the this the channels the you know these cell phone videos they have two channels. They have stereo sound. So you know you have they're recording two sources of audio from two different microphones on the phone. So, [snorts and clears throat] as you have a directional sound coming like from the building, a rifle shot from the building, it's going to be picked up on one channel before it's picked up on the other channel. And it's going to have a higher peak on one channel than it does on the other channel. And so, because we have video all the way around, like, you know, 180 degrees around Charlie, we should be able to get a pretty good idea of kind of where the majority of the sound came from. We can't like pinpoint where it came from. the cameras aren't, you know, you can't the sound's radial, so it's hard to say exactly where it came from, but you can say where the majority of the soundwave, uh, the direction that it came from. >> So, so what about the people that would say, so, okay, so I guess there's a couple questions. So, first one would be going back to actually I'll show the picture. So, going back to this one here, and this is with the vapor or the the gas escaping. So, we've had several people in chat, they're like, "Hey, you know, it's probably from the squib. It's probably from like the CO2 because, you know, Jordan Henchaw's been doing all that stuff, you know, puffing his shirt out with the CO2." Would you expect to see something like this in that case as well? >> The CO2 is not fast enough. So, you know, CO2 is a a gas. So you have to have it a CO2 like when you see these CO2 devices, it's liquid CO2 in a container and then you have a valve in a trigger and so the trigger pulls the valve opens up and then that CO2 gas travels down a tube and then it escapes somewhere. So there's like multiple delays um from that event and then the CO2 has to create pressure at you know as soon as say the in the canister it's it's 700 PSI and as soon as you open up that canister the the the pressure starts to lower and the only way it continues to make pressure is that it has to boil liquid to make more pressure and so it doesn't have the ability to have the sustained expansion that you we see here and it doesn't have the speed that it would You would have to have a huge valve and a huge amount of gas and like super critical pressures to be able to create the amount of energy that we see. It's just not fast enough. And my business is in CO2. I have patents in CO2. I built CO2 extraction equipment. Like I've spent my life working with pressurized CO2. I know CO2 better than most people. Like and I know what it can and can't do. And it would take a a tubing half inch tubing. It would take a a a pressure vessel with at least a half a liter of CO2. You would need a valve that's at least three quarter of an inch. You it would wouldn't be any valve. You would need a gated valve or actuated valve. Um just the amount of mechanics involved in making that possible. You would be no way that you can conceal it from any angle. >> Yeah, you could hide that. >> You couldn't hide it. It would be no way. And especially the problem with that is that sure you can create that in, you know, in one area or another, but to create all the the things that we saw at once, he would have to be rigged up like Dr. Octopus. You know what I mean? He would have to have tubes and valves everywhere. There's just no way you can create the shirt movement in the front, the shirt movement in the back, the necklace snapping flying over his head, the magnet class flying this way. It would take like a whole team of valves and you know uh a tremendous amount of gas. And that's the biggest problem. It's like these vessels are are they're high pressure vessels. They have to be stainless steel. Like they're big bulky things. You just can't like tuck one in somewhere and not have anyone notice. And then you have the expansion of the gas. It It's cold. It it makes like a That's what people are trying to explain is that you see the the the Jules Thompson cooling. When you have a gas that expands rapidly, it gets cold. It's like how refrigeration cycles work. Well, it's not just where the gas expands, where it gets cold. The whole line set gets cold. The valve gets cold, the tank gets cold. Like you would see frost and smoke coming from all over the place, it wouldn't just be where the gas escapes out of. >> So, you know, while on theory when you look at it, you could be like, "Yeah, that's possible." When you add all all the events that we saw together, it just becomes less and less feasible. And when you add the mechanics into it, the fact that we saw Charlie, you know, tossing hats around and walking around and he just sits down and it happens, it's just it's very unlikely. If they put him behind some wizard cloth and then have him come out later, then maybe like it's possible. But we just saw him like doing Charlie stuff and then he sat down and started picking up the mic and taking questions. There was just no time for them to set it up. >> Yeah, I agree. Now, really quick in chat, I know there's uh, you know, I've seen mixed stuff in chat here, but put a one in the chat if you believe that Charlie was shot. Put a two in the chat if you think it was something else, whatever it may be. So, put a one if you think he was shot and put a two if you think it was something else. And now we know, you know, a lot of people have been bringing up Baron in his uh life. You know, Baron thinks that there's a pretty high likelihood that it wasn't a shot. You know, that he wasn't a shot. He doesn't know exactly what it what it was. There's, you know, a couple different possibilities, of course, but I think a lot of people Yeah, we have a lot of twos. So, a lot of people aren't necessarily believing that it was a gunshot at all. And I know some people, uh, John, I think they've contacted you as well. What about what 17 HMR? Is that what they were pushing on X? >> Yeah. I think it could have been like a smaller round that was able to stay inside and still cause damage and all that, but a round like that is not going to cause I mean the cavitation first of all the cavitation from a shot doesn't fit what we're seeing with the shirt and everything else. >> Yeah. >> And I think even like even Gary from Paramount Tactical Valhalla has said that as well. Like it it's you know like even even if it was a gunshot, it doesn't fit what we're seeing. >> Yeah. I'll be >> I'll be more likely to believe that it was a larger caliber at a lower speed. >> It would it would fit better with the type of like cavitation that we saw, the bleeding that we saw. To believe it's a a faster round that's smaller just doesn't doesn't really fit. Um, so back to the audio, the um the left right channel kind of uh the the delay and then the uh the peaks on the left and right channel. It became really apparent that we weren't seeing or we weren't hearing a single event that originated from one side. We had one event that very much looks like a supersonic projectile and then we had another event that was a low frequency event that was coming from the opposite direction. The peaks of the channel were opposite. So we had a uh where the channels flipped in polarity. So we had a peak coming from one side and then all of a sudden it flipped and then you see a peak with delay. That's a low frequency peak coming from the opposite side. >> Okay. So which side was which side did the peak originate on? >> So the on the Cubs video is where I first discovered it. It's the most obvious Cubs and Mark's video which are which on Charlie's right side. And so the the initial wave comes from the right side. It's the first peak and then there's a there's a delay and then there's a low low frequency peak from that builds and holds sustained from the right uh from the um the left side. So we have an initial peak from the right side and then a low frequency build that holds from the left side. And >> so that's Charlie's right. >> Yeah, they they were on Charlie's right. They were on Charlie's right side. So you know the side that was facing where the supposed shot came from. We definitely see a signature of a shot >> come through there, but just a supersonic signature. then the the polarity of the channels flip and then we see a low frequency peak that comes from the area that that Charlie's at. So immediately I was like, well, there's a video on the opposite side. So if this is actual, you know, um you know that the recording should show it flip if we look on the opposite side. So then I went to the video that's furthest away from Charlie, that's on the opposite side, Charlie's left side, and it it flipped the channels. We saw the right channel peak and then we saw um it was it was not as distinct. It was more faint. But then we see that same low frequency peak come through. But what was interesting to me was that that channel on the far left side of Charlie which is furthest away. Um you know they're kind of zoomed in so it gives you the impression that they're closer than they are. But if you watch the video from the very beginning you see where they are actually standing before they zoom in. it had the most consistent soundwave for the rifle shot from the the supersonic crack to the report. So the videos from the center, they didn't even capture that. They kind of flipped back and forth. Um so you know that that left me with the conclusion that the rifle shot went over the left side. It never crossed hemispheres of the crowd. you know, we had that supersonic wave kind of like um bathe over the crowd, right? It sent that shock wave across the crowd, but the rapport was much more localized. You only really pick it up from the uh UVU camera, which was way far away, kind of like in a raised position. So, it was just physically closer to the the rifle shot. But the um the soundwave the the highest peak from the supersonic crack and the the highest peak from the rapport was on the left side. And the further you get from the left side, the less you pick it up. So it's like you can go across from the angles that were kind of like dead center to the angle that was kind of like at uh it would be Charlie's like 6 7 o'lock. um in between those two they were they gradually get less uh you know uh right channel dominant and as you get over the cubs then you see the closer you get over the cubs and mark video the the stronger you see this left channel peak kind of show up. Um the the videos in the center actually flip back and forth nine times. So from the left channel dominant to the right channel dominance. So you can kind of see like the sound waves competing. They were kind of like mixing together in the center. And they those videos those videos were the closest to Charlie. So they pick up they pick up a a huge peak from you know the the channels that are to their left. They're closer to Charlie at that that low frequency range. But they also are competing with that that the s supersonic uh crack that kind of like dominates the and precedes it slightly. And the the um the delay is is is strange too. Like you can look at the delay between the supersonic crack to the low frequency and the further you get away from Charlie the the the delay is is more is like more prominent. So it gets where it's it's the people that are closest to Charlie. It's it's a little bit tighter. So it's it's you know it's not necessarily like concrete proof that there was a acoustic trigger but at least the order of operations from the sound analysis wise shows that it's it's plausible that you know there was definitely the supersonic you know crack that that kind of went over the crowd and then after that is when the actual low frequency event and then tying that to the actual video seeing the deformation information. It It ties together that the sound wave that we see originating from the area of Charlie is timed with the shirt deformation where the supersonic crack is kind of like too early. It it it should we should see that deformation of the shirt happen right when the crack sound arrives. They should be at the same time because that's showing you where the projectile is. But there's a delay like the the the audio from the supersonic crack is like on its way out when the buildup of the low frequency starts and that's when we see the buildup of the shirt start to balloon up. So you know again like the energy the order operation of the energy shows again that it's it's not in the right order for it to be the the supersonic projectile causing all the deformation that we saw. We should see that happen instantaneously. we see we hear the audio from the supersonic crack and then we start to see the deformation and it's just not the order that we see. And you combine that with the channels, it it kind of gives you the impression that the the rifle shot was a separate event. That, you know, it it preceded what the the the the energetic source of what we witnessed underneath the shirt wasn't tied to that supersonic projectile because it came after. And you know the if we only had one recording it would be easy to to write off. But the multiple recordings Marks and Cubs from the same side and then the the two recordings from the center it just makes it really hard to just write off because they all show the same thing. They're very consistent. Now quick question for you. Um this is just because people are going to they want me to ask you these questions because there's obviously like a thousand different theories going on. So for this question, this is for so audio freak, who obviously is an audio engineer and does his own thing and has his own way that he measures stuff. He said based on what he's seen so far, the Loski center, the Sorson Center, he says he said supposedly the the exploding mic from or anything from the not not the uh uh the event, right? The event >> Yep. at Charlie's location. And then um he said the only position so far from what he's tested was basically the range day bro position that was up and behind him to the right which is kind of like the uh what is that the hollow flags. He says that's kind of the only area that so far has passed everything. He said the event that Charlie didn't pass in his testing. Have you done your own audio forensics in that area that shows it could? >> I I didn't cherrypick the audio. Ibrand all the videos and the only the only audio that I didn't include in my analysis were the was the one video that was modified. Um I don't know if they ran it through like a a program, but it was basically it was a mono channel that was mocked up to look like a stereo channel, but the two channels were identical. >> So I didn't include that in analysis. But every video that was available I used in my analysis. I didn't say I don't like that one or that one's, you know, distorted. I used them all and they all say the same thing. They all tell the same story and the biggest, you know, indicator is that you can follow it as you travel across the event. They all coordinate with each other. So as you sweep from one side to another, the channels flip and you know the channels in the center, they go back and forth. So you see the the sound waves competing with each other. Um, you know, I wouldn't depend on cell phone, um, you know, audio to be able to pinpoint anything, especially with the supersonic. You know, they're going to clip off at a certain frequency. They're not made to to capture, you know, super low frequencies or super high frequencies. So, you know, the trying to really hone in on, you know, the peaks of when this happened or that happened is a lot more difficult than looking at the the actual data that you have, which is every audio track has two different channels. And examining how they differ give you better results than just looking at the waveforms and saying this peak is that, this peak is not that, and then kind of cherry-picking what you want out of it to get the the conclusion that you want. to me like looking at them all together and having them being cohesive was a lot more important than just finding one or two that said what I liked. >> All right. Awesome. Yeah, I'm just I'm just getting questions organized for you. We have a lot of questions coming in. Um Okay. So, as far as the audio uh at least the pieces of audio that you've seen, I just want to make sure that I summarize what you're saying or what I think you're saying. So, you're saying that there was possibly more than one event. One was a shot that was over his over Charlie's right shoulder. Correct. >> Well, it would have been to Charlie's left. >> Far far to the far to the left of Charlie. The shot was >> Okay. So So if he's facing the crowd, it's to Charlie's left. >> Yeah. To Charlie's left. And it was it was it was the camera that was furthest away. So the um the the camera view that kind of zooms in on Charlie and then pans it's the only camera that's from that side. the only view that's from that side. It has a very unique. It captures what you would expect from a rifle shot better than any of the other cameras. All the other cameras have this this mystery low frequency boom that's not timed correctly that that you know is very channel dependent dependent on which angle they're coming from. So that you know it it led me the only thing I only way I can explain it is that the shot was kind of um more straight instead of coming across across the hemisphere of the event. it was just going straight across the event. And so that that one video that's basically from the you see the terraces you have, you know, one, two, three, four terraces. I believe the the person was on the third and so the bullet went appears from the audio to gone right over him, but you don't see >> Okay, hold on. So, so I want I want to make sure we get that that location. So, so where would that be on here? >> Uh, so you see like the the one, two, three different levels. the four levels >> on here. >> I believe. Yeah, it kind of in front of the bush area on the third level. >> On the third level. Okay. On >> somewhere around >> third down or third. Okay. So, somewhere around the bushes. >> Yeah. And and so, you know, it was it was kind of offset, not directly from the side of Charlie, but um definitely not in the area that kind of cuts at a 45 degree um and and further away from him than any of the other video angles where Cub was kind of on this first level against that concrete wall on the opposite side of Charlie. And then Mark would have been about 10 to 15 feet away from him than on the first level there. Um, and then the center videos were dead center in front of Charlie. I mean, they were like against the guard rail in front of them. Uh, and then the offset video was would be kind of still in the triangle portion of the lowest level. And those areas are where you see the channels flip back and forth. So, you know, they were picking up the the rifle audio and then it was competing with the audio that they were picking up from kind of the the the area right in front of them, which was Charlie's tent, where, you know, Cubs and Mark's video showed a very um immediate right channel dominance from the supersonic projectile and then this left channel dominance. just takes over and it's and it's all in the low frequency range and you know it's not um it can't be sound bouncing off the concrete wall because the sound has to pass by first before it bounces off the wall. So we would see it in the right channel and then it would peak in the left channel if was a you know a echo off the wall and we don't see that at all. we see we see a short peak from the supersonic projectile and then we see a a a low frequency boom that builds up and then cascades away. Um and so you can't really explain that by the the rifle shot. So it it it's it makes it hard for me to believe that the rifle shot crossed the the kind of uh >> the hemisphere. Yeah. Yeah, I think it went over one side. Um, and it didn't. So, you know, the whole idea of the them firing into the trunk of the car or whatever or firing anywhere near Charlie, it makes it harder to believe because the cameras that were directly in front of Charlie, they don't pick it up. you know, it's not something that it's it's not a they pick up the dominance of the supersonic projectile, but there's no, you know, there's no impact and there's no like the the dominated sound after the supersonic projectile passes comes from in front of them where both channels are showing it evenly. So, where it should have a a a channel dominance on one side or the other if it was coming from, you know, kind of behind them to the over their right shoulder. >> Okay. So, I just want to make sure that we summarize this for people. So, originally, >> excuse me. [cough and clears throat] So, originally the shot they're saying came from >> all the way back here on this right side, this building up here, all the way across the entire courtyard and hit Charlie. >> And then I know Dr. Martinson and I think Kelly Ribbon found a video too where appeared like someone might be up here on the Sorenson Center and shot from there and then Range Day bro and I believe audio freaks audio shows something from over in this area. So, you're saying that based on the audio that you're seeing, it doesn't appear as >> it could be from that left side above the trees or from where they told us the shot came from and the bullet was just going directly over the event. But, >> okay, that makes sense. >> We don't see it picked up very at all from Mark and >> but I just want to make sure. So, so people are asking it's not coming from the bush area, correct? >> No. No, it went over the top of them basically. >> Okay. So, that's where the mic picked. Yeah. Yeah, but it didn't travel over the top of the people in the center. That's kind of like the biggest thing that that I found that didn't make sense to me. So, you know, it's it's >> you you see the the the supersonic peak is it is gets diluted out the further you get away from it. And each camera that you get further away from that left side, it it it picks it up less. So, you know, it's going to be traveling that that sound travels with the projectile. So, it's hard for me to believe that that projectile went anywhere near the center of the event because the cameras didn't pick it up. We had uh two cameras that were, you know, right in that lower triangle section and neither of them picked it up as strong as the camera on the left side. And then Marks and Cub's camera, which were to Charlie's right, picked it up the least. So if you look at, you know, if you kind of like map that out, it leads you to believe that the that had to the the the projectile passed over the left side more than it passed over any of the other sides, which doesn't make sense because supposedly it hit someone that was dead center of the event. And uh we just don't see it. We don't hear the impact. We don't see the supersonic. You know, it should be as strong on the left side as it is in the center. And we just it's not there. So >> interesting. So, so we have a lot of questions. Um, was there anything? Let's see. Is there anything else that you want to show from Google Drive on any of these images or talk about anything in here before we get to questions and stuff or did you have anything else you want to share? >> The uh circuit board. So, identifying the objects under the shirt, right? So clearly like immed at first I was assuming that the shirt was raised up by his face by the pendant because we see the necklace energy. Uh so you know it's it was easy for me to you know come to the the assumption that the same energy that caused his necklace to snap off caused his pendant to raise up around you know his face and pull his shirt up. Um, but when I saw the images from Candace showing the back of them where the the necklace is basically resting on the his uh collar and then I look closely at Mark's video and Cub's video and you see that the necklace never really moves from his shirt collar on the opposite side. It swings like a pendulum around. So, it makes it really hard to believe that the pendant that's on the necklace is going to raise up but not move the necklace that it's connected to. So, then I really started examining the the shape trajectory and kind of like the um the image of where you can see something peeking out from the shirt. And when I got the uh the actual Rogue mic that he had and I opened it up, I realized that the circuit board was blue. has a blue solder mask on it. And then it it it dawned on me that if you look at this top image, the frame two of number the sequence, you can see the objects sticking out. And immediately I recognized when I opened up that microphone, you can see the circuitry on it, the little PCB chips. So um what I did was took the analysis of we have a really good tracking agent here for uh figuring out the size, right? We have the magnetic clasps. It's very visible. we have from the manufacturer the exact size of the magnetic class. So, we can take they're they're really close to each other. They're about the same depth away from the camera. So, we can take the exact size of the magnetic class, turn it to pixels, and then use that to measure this this rectangular shape that we see underneath his shirt, and it's the exact size that the PCB board should be. So, now we have a physical size to the bulge that we see on his shirt. So it it leans lends evidence to what caused the shirt to rise, right? Obviously, we saw energetic event around the the area of the microphone. We know the size, color, and shape of the inards of the microphone. We know that we saw a rectangular object around the size of the battery falling out of the wound. So then I um basically took the um the color of the the circuit board. I took a picture of it with my camera and good balance lighting and I had it analyze the color shift of the image that we see we see for one frame where the circuit boards peeking out of the shirt. And it was able to detect that there's a blue shift in not only on the area that you see the circuit board sticking out, but underneath the shirt too, the the color shifts towards the blue spectrum. And so, you know, the only way you can really explain that, especially against the the flesh there, um, is that, you know, there was an object that had some blue coloring to it. So you combine the fact that you have a blue shift in the spectrum that you see underneath the shirt, the the size of the object is roughly the same size as the circuit board. And then we we have the you know the the most important fact that it was underneath his shirt. So what's the easiest thing to you know kind of cause a shirt to bulge is something that's already underneath the shirt traveling in that trajectory. It would get caught in his shirt collar and pull up. And so >> a lot of people initially thought this was the necklace, >> the necklace pendant, right? But the shape of it always kind of bothered me because the necklace it wasn't that big of a pendant like how does it create like this this kind of like right >> because it's here too, right? >> Yeah, exactly. You see you see just the edge of it sticking out. And so it never made sense to me like how how we get such a bulky bulge from such a small pendant. And when I realized the necklace didn't move on that side, it almost made me completely eliminate the possibility that it was dependent. And so then I started uh examining the videos, the frames after cuz surely if we see it come up and across his body and it moves his shirt up around his face, then it's loose from the from the device. When after it the shirt relaxes, the circuit board has to fall back down. And so I was able to actually find the frames from Cubs video again uh where you see the circuit board fall into the shirt and you see it hit around his abdomen area and basically fall into the crease of the shirt and then as he falls out of the chair you see it kind of like relax down and and so you know as he hits the ground the circuit board is loose underneath his shirt trapped underneath his shirt. you know, it's it had to be one of the objects that you see them kind of like passing around or you know, and you know, it's just one of the many evident additional evidence of fragmentation from that device though. So whatever energetic event happened caused the the the microphone to fragment. And this is just another piece of that fragmentation um that we have, you know, multiple clear evidence of from multiple cameras um that we see it travel across his body, cause the deformation of his shirt, peek out of his shirt with the blue shift that you would expect for the size that you expect, and then we see it fall down his shirt and get caught in a fold as he falls out. So, this is more supporting evidence that the um the shirt collar deformation that we saw was caused by the components of the actual microphone. >> So, I know a [clears throat] lot of people initially it looked as though like something smacked him in the face on the left side of his face. And you you can kind of see it here, you know, like it looks like his cheek is puffing out. >> Yep. >> It looks looks like he got hit there. Someone said, you know, originally it was like the maybe the the cross hit him in the face or something like that. So based on all the videos and stuff you have and what you've seen while this is here, so like say this is the circuit board flying up or whatever it is here. So if this is there and his chain is already flying around his head at this point, right? >> His chain's already behind his head. >> So is the cross still down by his chest in the videos you've seen at this point? >> I think the cross is the only thing that held the necklace underneath his like it is basically enough weight to to stop the necklace from flying out of his shirt. Because if you look the length of the necklace that's hanging out of his shirt, it's almost the entirety of the necklace is hanging out of the shirt. Especially once they carry him away, you can see it hanging. >> Um so whatever however the pendant was attached, it must have been um you know tight enough on those square links to get caught and stop the whole necklace from pulling out of his shirt. But it it wouldn't have been enough energy to lift up his shirt like that becaus