Nick Fuentes Reflects on Charlie Kirk Assassination and Calls for Love Over Hate in Conservative Movement

[00:00] Charlie Kirk, right? And you know what

[00:02] clips are going viral with you a month

[00:04] ago. You're calling out uh um

[00:08] you know uh uh what do you call it?

[00:10] Turning point USA. And I don't know what

[00:12] you said, but you said it. You know what

[00:14] it is. I you can fill in the context on

[00:17] what you said. I'm not going to play the

[00:18] clip, but you were saying something.

[00:20] It's the clip where you're at the top

[00:21] and the other one's at the bottom,

[00:22] right? What you said before and now it's

[00:23] like, "Hey, listen. Charlie was a

[00:26] Christian. He was trying to do this. You

[00:27] were very complimentary about Charlie."

[00:29] Okay.

[00:31] And Charlie Kirk got assassinated.

[00:34] >> Mhm.

[00:34] >> And you've had death threats of people

[00:36] coming to your door, right? Uh uh and

[00:39] things happening. How much has the last

[00:42] 12 days? Cuz you know, at first like,

[00:44] well, you know, it's Israel. You're

[00:46] like, "No, it's not Israel. You're

[00:48] actually a person that I would have

[00:49] thought would have been the first to go

[00:51] there." You actually said, "No, I'm not

[00:53] going there." You know, Charlie Nick is

[00:56] a fed. All right. this person CIA. All

[00:59] right, that kind of went away. Didn't

[01:02] have a long lifespan. It's gone. Hey,

[01:04] it's the Gropers that did it. You know,

[01:06] it's your because out of the 13

[01:08] questions, 11 were gropers. Whatever the

[01:10] number was. I may be wrong. I don't want

[01:11] to don't fact go fact check me on what

[01:14] the numbers, but I read somewhere that a

[01:15] number of the people that asked the

[01:16] question were Gropers. Gropers asked me

[01:18] a question when I was at Afest when the

[01:19] guy got up and said, "How come you've

[01:21] never had Nicholas J. Fuentes on?" And I

[01:23] said, "He's got to stop saying the N

[01:24] word." And this is when you kind of came

[01:26] back and reacted to the video.

[01:28] How are you processing this with Charlie

[01:30] Kirk? I've seen the tweets. I've seen

[01:31] the videos, but how are you processing

[01:33] this?

[01:33] >> Well, on a personal level, it's uh it's

[01:36] terrifying, you know, because he was out

[01:38] there and he got blown away uh doing

[01:40] what we all do, which is a public event

[01:42] or something like that. And and of

[01:43] course, the same thing happened to me

[01:45] last year. Somebody came to my door with

[01:47] a gun while I was doing my show and

[01:49] tried to kill me. Um and so you realize

[01:52] we do really have a problem in the

[01:54] country with this kind of violence. That

[01:56] was kind of the first level. My first

[01:58] reaction is I didn't know if this was

[02:00] some lone nut job. Is there some kind of

[02:02] coordinated attack, if there would be

[02:04] copycats or something. But then on a

[02:06] deeper level, people are calling me a

[02:09] hypocrite because I had complimentary

[02:10] things to say about Charlie, even though

[02:12] he was my adversary in politics. But I

[02:16] don't see it as a contradiction. I

[02:18] disagreed with him. I still disagree

[02:19] with the things he said. And my views on

[02:22] him as a from a professional point of

[02:24] view hasn't changed. What I have

[02:26] processed is the reaction to the killing

[02:29] from all of his fans and from people.

[02:32] You see that millions of people were

[02:35] touched by his activism. And I looked at

[02:38] his activism in a very one-dimensional

[02:40] way, which is that he's pro Trump, he's

[02:43] pro Republican. He's pushing the talking

[02:44] points. We would call it talking points

[02:46] USA. That was that was kind of the joke.

[02:49] >> TPUSA talking points,

[02:50] >> right? Talking points. You know, his job

[02:51] is to go out there and sell, you know,

[02:53] the party. But seeing the outpouring of

[02:56] support, I mean, I saw a lot of young

[02:58] people that were emotional, young men,

[03:00] young women going to the vigils and

[03:02] actually distraught.

[03:04] And I think they were distraught, one

[03:06] because it was so evil what was done to

[03:08] him to see that kind of violence uh was

[03:10] really upsetting, but also I think

[03:12] people were touched because Charlie

[03:14] Kirk, it does put things in perspective

[03:17] when a person dies. I don't believe he

[03:19] was a bad man. I disagreed with him. I

[03:22] didn't like his politics. But what I

[03:25] have come to respect about him is that

[03:26] he was a very hard worker. He was kind.

[03:30] You noticed that when he talked to

[03:31] people he didn't like or disagreed with.

[03:33] He was open to other people. He changed

[03:35] his mind even when he dealt with me. And

[03:36] he was never particularly nice to me.

[03:39] Let's just say um but he was to a lot of

[03:41] people. And maybe more than anything,

[03:43] the thing that touched people the most

[03:46] was his testimony of his faith that he

[03:48] believed in God. And you know, I didn't

[03:51] like what it advocated for politics. But

[03:53] he advocated for Christianity. That's

[03:55] the part that people are going to

[03:57] remember him for. That's the part that

[03:58] people when they think Charlie Kirk,

[04:00] they don't think of the uh Republican

[04:02] debate, bro. They think about a guy that

[04:04] was preaching marriage values, you know,

[04:08] decent Christian values, Christ himself,

[04:10] and his sacrifice on the cross. He was

[04:12] Protestant. I'm Catholic. And when they

[04:14] held the memorial yesterday, I I'm going

[04:16] to tell you the truth. I thought there

[04:17] were things about the memorial that were

[04:19] distasteful. But one thing that was

[04:21] exceptional about it is the way that the

[04:23] name of Christ was proclaimed to

[04:25] everybody. And I think that, you know,

[04:28] when you see someone die like that, the

[04:29] reason it's jarring for people is

[04:30] because we realize that we're all going

[04:32] to die suddenly, unexpectedly, you know,

[04:35] and and like him, he's 31 years old.

[04:37] Nobody expects that a 31-year-old with

[04:39] that kind of money and influence is

[04:40] going to die all of a sudden. He had

[04:42] plans, you know, he had he was going to

[04:43] get on his private jet and fly to do

[04:45] another event some other time. You know,

[04:47] nobody expects that you're going to die,

[04:48] someone like that at that age. And when

[04:50] you see someone like that cut down so

[04:52] viciously, you realize how life is so

[04:55] fragile and it's so temporary and it's

[04:57] so short. Any day we could all die. And

[04:59] what that then naturally makes us think

[05:01] about is, well, what does it all really

[05:04] mean then? If you could get stopped in

[05:06] your tracks at any time like that, what

[05:08] actually really matters in life? And

[05:11] what mattered about Charlie when you see

[05:12] in the end is it's not actually the

[05:15] times when he was um maybe taking the

[05:17] piss and saying what is a woman. It's

[05:19] the times when he was sincerely

[05:21] professing his faith talking about moral

[05:23] virtues and the moral virtues that he

[05:25] lived in his deeds. And so to me I guess

[05:27] it kind of it was a change in

[05:29] perspective kind of realizing everybody

[05:31] asked the same question. How will I be

[05:32] remembered you know when when we get

[05:34] unexpectedly killed or when we die or

[05:36] when bad things happen. And it's a

[05:38] challenge to kind of live every day

[05:40] thinking, could today be the day, you

[05:42] know, and and what did I do on my final

[05:44] day? How did I act? Did I tell the

[05:46] truth? Was I courageous? Was I kind? You

[05:49] know, not just to my friends and my

[05:51] family, but also to my enemies. So, it

[05:53] it I think it brought people to the

[05:55] center a little bit. Uh centered in a

[05:58] spiritual sense.

[05:59] >> Did you at all watch it yesterday where

[06:01] you had moments of sitting there saying,

[06:05] "Sh, this was a good guy, man. You

[06:08] know, I I wish I would have changed the

[06:09] approach with our relationship. Did you

[06:11] at all have that moment?

[06:13] >> I I don't know that I would have changed

[06:15] my approach because politics is vicious,

[06:18] you know, and that's just the game. He

[06:20] was vicious to us. We were vicious to

[06:21] him. Uh but I I do think that I harshly

[06:24] judged him. I think when anybody dies,

[06:26] you feel that way. And I I think

[06:28] especially since he died, you look at

[06:30] him and you realize this guy was not

[06:32] actually the worst guy in the world. You

[06:33] know, he was kind of my nemesis in a

[06:36] way. Uh, and maybe I was his on the

[06:38] right wing, but I realized that we had

[06:41] so much more in common that we disagreed

[06:43] with, actually.

[06:43] >> So, do do you think um do you think uh

[06:46] uh when you hear the statement, let's

[06:48] find a way to lower the temperatures, do

[06:50] you in your mind say, "Ah, shut up with

[06:53] this lower temperature Stop

[06:55] it. Lower the temperature." Do you know

[06:57] what's going to do? You do you hear that

[06:59] message now and say, "Maybe we got to

[07:01] lower the temperature." Hey, maybe maybe

[07:05] if I got all these young guys that are

[07:06] following me, how Christlike am I being?

[07:09] What am I that this whole WWJD? I had a

[07:12] call with a somebody uh uh two days ago.

[07:14] I won't mention the name, but also very

[07:15] talented and capable, very

[07:18] person I believe in tremendously as

[07:20] well. And we also, you know, have had a

[07:23] challenge. But, uh, I said, "Listen,

[07:26] every time as I'm going through this and

[07:30] I'm out there, I took my kids."

[07:31] Everyone's like, "Don't take your kids

[07:33] to, you know, uh, uh, what do you call

[07:35] it? The the Charlie's me." I said, "No,

[07:37] no. I'm taking my kids. I believe in

[07:40] God. I have faith. And if I move forward

[07:43] with fear, what a coward. I'm not I'm a

[07:45] leader. I'm a leader amongst leaders.

[07:46] We're going to go there. They sit there

[07:48] proud. We're good. Of course, we make

[07:49] the investment for our security and all

[07:51] that stuff, but we got to go. We can't

[07:53] change our life dramatically where we're

[07:55] seen as being cowards, right? We're

[07:57] never going to do that. This is America.

[07:58] It's the greatest country in the world.

[08:00] I'm going to do my part. My life is

[08:02] changed because of God, Jesus. America,

[08:04] I am the luckiest human being alive.

[08:06] That is my feeling. The vibe that I

[08:08] have, right?

[08:10] But when you hear the words, we got to

[08:13] lower the temperature, what's the first

[08:15] thing you think about? I think it's kind

[08:17] of just a wrong perspective on it

[08:20] because you know I'm an intense person

[08:22] and I think that this is a decisive

[08:24] moment for America. And you know what

[08:28] what really set me what really made me

[08:30] beside myself is not necessarily that

[08:32] someone killed Kirk because there's a

[08:34] lot of crazy people out here that

[08:35] unfortunately do carry out acts of

[08:37] violence. It was that there were like a

[08:39] hundred thousand liberals who are in

[08:41] their right mind that were celebrating,

[08:43] that were glib about it, that crashed

[08:45] vigils, that danced, that laughed, that

[08:47] mocked it, that said it was a good

[08:48] thing, he deserved it. And you realize

[08:51] that it is a battle between good and

[08:53] evil. And I don't believe that when

[08:55] you're fighting evil, you lower the

[08:57] intensity. I think that we must very

[08:58] intensely fight evil because we have to

[09:00] win. If we lose, and by we, I mean

[09:02] decent people, they're going to hurt us

[09:04] and they're going to destroy the things

[09:06] that we care about. So for me, it's not

[09:08] necessarily about intensity,

[09:09] temperature. I would say intensity. I

[09:11] think we should all fight for what we

[09:13] believe in intensely every day. I would

[09:15] change it and say it's really a question

[09:17] of love and hate. It was a hateful

[09:20] action to kill Charlie Kirk. It's a

[09:22] hateful action to celebrate. I think

[09:23] that we should be intense, but we should

[09:25] also move in love. And what that means

[09:27] is, you know, I said this on my show,

[09:30] people kill each other with bullets and

[09:32] literally murder each other and take

[09:34] their lives. We also kill each other by

[09:36] destroying each other's reputations.

[09:37] When we lie about somebody, when we

[09:39] gossip about somebody, when you go and

[09:41] actually do the examine of conscience at

[09:43] confession at a Catholic church and you

[09:46] go through all the different sins and

[09:48] you say because you have to contemplate,

[09:49] you have to confess everything. Every

[09:51] mortal sin, you have to confess all of

[09:53] it. So, first you examine it

[09:55] systematically.

[09:57] Have I done this? Have I done that? And

[09:59] one of the violations of the

[10:01] commandment, thou shalt not kill, is

[10:03] gossip, detraction. It's it's attacking

[10:06] somebody with a lie because that's a

[10:09] form of killing somebody in a certain

[10:10] sense. It's a form of damning somebody.

[10:13] >> And so I wouldn't say we need to lower

[10:15] the intensity, but we should always move

[10:17] in love. And by that I don't mean some

[10:19] kind of like new age and move in love,

[10:20] very vague and non-specific, but I mean

[10:23] we should want what's good for

[10:24] everybody. We should will the good for

[10:27] us and also even for our enemies too and

[10:29] for the whole country. And so that's why

[10:31] I said my first reaction when I did my

[10:33] show, a lot of people said, "Well, we

[10:35] now got to go and kill two of theirs."

[10:37] They killed one of ours.

[10:39] >> Now we need to get violent. You know,

[10:41] now we got to go and pick up arms. How

[10:43] many is too many? I think there were I

[10:45] mean, not anybody notable, but I think

[10:46] there were a lot of people that were

[10:47] thinking that

[10:48] >> on the conservative side.

[10:49] >> I think so.

[10:50] >> You think so?

[10:50] >> I do. Are you saying gropers or you're

[10:52] saying like what what part of that?

[10:55] Because

[10:56] are you saying gropers?

[10:58] >> No. No. Absolutely not.

[10:59] >> You're saying just conservatives period?

[11:01] >> I'm saying yeah, I think that I mean do

[11:03] you think that after people saw Charlie

[11:05] Kirk get murdered there weren't at least

[11:06] some people that said we have to match

[11:09] the left?

[11:10] >> Perfect. I'm glad you brought that up.

[11:11] So my initial reaction I'm a very bad

[11:15] person.

[11:16] very initial reaction is vengeance,

[11:20] right? That's normal, initial. Um, but

[11:26] you know, that's the part where, you

[11:29] know, there's certain people that will

[11:30] come say stuff about me. They say it all

[11:31] the time. You you know, you're you're uh

[11:33] uh you're you've got money from Assad.

[11:36] We we we don't do sponsorship money

[11:39] here. We haven't take sponsorship money

[11:41] for two years. The only thing we take is

[11:42] AdSense. And that's what YouTube does.

[11:43] We don't pick and choose what it is,

[11:45] right? But they'll say stuff like that

[11:47] doesn't bother me because it's like, you

[11:49] know, if you fight it, they're going to

[11:50] do more of it. So what are you going?

[11:52] That's what bothers them. Let me keep

[11:53] going. Nah, I'm good. I'm gonna do your

[11:54] part. You I'm going to do maybe if I was

[11:56] in my 20s, I would constantly fight that

[11:58] over and over and over again. I'm not to

[12:01] me I I also think there's a moment there

[12:03] here where we have a moment. I I feel

[12:06] like within the Conservative party,

[12:08] there's a lot of different gangs. Okay.

[12:11] in a mob. If you go study the history of

[12:13] the mob with Lucky Luchiano when they

[12:15] created the commission, all these

[12:17] different families came together, right?

[12:20] It doesn't mean we're buddy buddy. Hey,

[12:23] what's how you doing? You know,

[12:25] everything's great. That's not what that

[12:26] means. It just means listen, at the end

[12:30] of the day, maybe the enemy isn't who we

[12:32] think the enemy is. Okay? Maybe you and

[12:36] Charlie 90% I don't know 80 90% you were

[12:40] on the same page. Is it worth us getting

[12:42] this nasty over the 10%. I don't know. I

[12:45] I I don't know. Uh I I feel we're at an

[12:48] era right now that I think all the

[12:51] voices matter and I think like I don't

[12:54] know what your aspirations are long

[12:55] term. Do you have any aspirations to run

[12:56] for office one day?

[12:57] >> Potentially.

[12:57] >> Okay. Potentially. Do you think Charlie

[12:59] was going to one day run for office?

[13:00] Absolutely.

[13:00] >> Absolutely. And I said that all the

[13:02] time. I think you probably have some

[13:03] plans of one day running. Uh they showed

[13:05] me a clip when he said, "I want a

[13:07] 100,000 people that are uh uh uh uh

[13:10] making money low-key underground. Nobody

[13:12] knows where you're kind of breaking

[13:13] that." Okay, great. So, you want to run

[13:15] for office one day. Great. You have your

[13:16] own certain ideas, philosophies that we

[13:18] you want to go. But I think that this

[13:21] next part,

[13:24] excuse me, I think this next part as we

[13:26] go through it,

[13:29] this is an MLK moment.

[13:32] This was the MLK of Republicans and

[13:35] conservatives. Even though Martin Luther

[13:37] King was a Republican and his wife

[13:38] called Nixon to get some help, she they

[13:40] didn't call back and then he called John

[13:41] F. Kennedy. She called and then that's

[13:43] when they flipped. I'm going to be a

[13:44] Democrat and then next, you know, and

[13:46] then you got Barry Goldwater and the

[13:47] whole thing is a mess. African-Americans

[13:49] were conservatives for many, many years

[13:51] statistically.

[13:52] >> Hi, I'm Nick Fuentes. If you want to

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