Rob O’Neill Confronts Erika Kirk and the FBI About the Charlie Kirk As*assination

[00:00] Have you paid attention to the uh

[00:02] Charlie Kirk aftermath much? What What

[00:04] are your thoughts on that?

[00:05] >> I just I would like to know what

[00:07] happened.

[00:08] >> I I I would like I would I would like to

[00:11] uh I just Okay. I would just like an

[00:13] explanation

[00:15] of how this kid got um

[00:20] a 306 that was taken apart onto a

[00:24] building.

[00:25] um put it back together and the scope on

[00:28] with one screwdriver. Took a cold bar

[00:30] shot and hit it. Took the gun apart with

[00:33] the same screwdriver. And then he left

[00:35] the screwdriver in the roof and he

[00:36] jumped down. His shadow disappeared. He

[00:39] jumped down without the screwdriver, ran

[00:40] to trees, put it back together, wrapped

[00:42] it in a thing, and ran away and and

[00:43] texted his uh his lover the not the way

[00:47] a 22-year-old would text someone, but

[00:48] the way someone that spoke English as a

[00:50] second language would text someone. Just

[00:51] tell me how that happened and I'll be

[00:53] I'll be fine. And then just with Erica

[00:54] Kirk saying, "I forgive him." Well, that

[00:56] says guilt. So, he's guilty and don't

[00:59] worry about it. Oh, by the way, um we're

[01:00] going to take everything down and we're

[01:02] gonna Did they pave over a crime scene?

[01:04] >> Yeah,

[01:04] >> that actually happened. That was one of

[01:05] my questions. Why'd you do that?

[01:07] >> Answer that.

[01:08] >> Well, I I would say that's what I heard

[01:09] happen.

[01:10] >> No, I I didn't see it either. I heard

[01:11] it.

[01:11] >> Yeah.

[01:12] >> But why why what's the cover up? Why is

[01:15] I mean I I've shot a lot of dudes close

[01:16] and that's an exit wound right there. So

[01:19] the from from your perspective, lots of

[01:22] questions

[01:23] >> again, I wasn't there and I I don't know

[01:24] what we're getting deep faked with,

[01:26] >> right? Any any theory? Uh because

[01:28] there's been a lot of candid in

[01:31] particular.

[01:31] >> I like it. I like to think the simplest

[01:33] answer is what happened. I mean, I don't

[01:35] like it that I don't like it. I knew

[01:37] Charlie Kirk and I I I that's [ __ ]

[01:39] horrible. He's a great guy. I I actually

[01:40] I had one of the best uh uh interactions

[01:43] with him. I went to Turning Point a

[01:45] couple years ago and he was going

[01:46] through with his security guys. He said

[01:48] something like, "Uh, hey, when are you

[01:49] running for office?" I said, "I don't

[01:50] think I will, but if uh if I do, it's

[01:52] going to be as a Democrat." And he said,

[01:53] "Why?" And I go, "Cuz I am corrupt as

[01:55] fuck." And I was joking with Charlie

[01:56] Crick and whatever. But no, but it's

[01:58] like it's almost like uh what I've

[01:59] noticed. The two things I'll say is um

[02:03] as soon as you ask a question, you're

[02:04] boom, I got hit with why would you ask

[02:06] that? And why would you mention Israel?

[02:07] I'm like, I didn't mention Israel. You

[02:09] just did. Why would you do that? That's

[02:12] what I was hit with. And I'm not saying

[02:14] I don't I don't know what happened. and

[02:15] I wasn't there. But why can't you ask a

[02:16] question?

[02:17] >> Yeah, I agree.

[02:18] >> And I didn't say anything about them,

[02:19] >> right?

[02:20] >> Someone did.

[02:21] >> Um,

[02:22] do you have a theory as to kind of why

[02:26] why it's being so covered up and

[02:31] why why we're being kind of railroaded

[02:33] at every

[02:34] >> Well, I think I think that Charlie

[02:36] became a target

[02:39] from different sides of the aisle simply

[02:42] because of what he was saying. Now,

[02:43] you've got a the left that hates him is

[02:45] going to say he was just a podcaster.

[02:47] Okay. Charlie Kirk was was um was the

[02:50] forefront was the face of the largest

[02:52] political movement, one of the largest

[02:54] in the history of this country. So both

[02:56] sides were going to be against him

[02:57] because the right really wants him. But

[03:00] he he wants to go against a lot of what

[03:03] some lobbyists are doing and he's

[03:04] pushing um he's pushing the Christianity

[03:07] the Jesus aspect of that that one part

[03:09] and some people don't like that. Uh and

[03:11] he's going to be getting the votes one

[03:12] way or the other. Is he going to take it

[03:13] away from the hardcore right and bring

[03:14] it to the independence? The left hates

[03:15] him for obvious reasons because I mean

[03:17] like a guy that has above his head,

[03:20] prove me wrong. That should be the way

[03:21] you start a conversation. Literally sit

[03:22] there and say, "Prove me wrong." And

[03:24] then you have a conversation and and

[03:25] then if you prove proven wrong, say,

[03:27] "Yeah, yeah, okay, you're right." But

[03:28] but to kill them, someone's pissed off

[03:30] on one of the sides. And I don't I don't

[03:32] know if it's the left or the right.

[03:33] >> Have you paid any attention to Candace

[03:35] Owens since then?

[03:36] >> A little bit.

[03:37] >> Yeah.

[03:38] >> And I think I've never met Candace. I

[03:40] think that she is

[03:42] I think she's informed and I think she's

[03:45] I mean I know she's really smart but I I

[03:47] don't I don't think she has an agenda. I

[03:49] think she's saying what she thinks is

[03:50] the truth and she's proven right a lot

[03:52] of times she takes on she takes on a lot

[03:54] of the big wigs and then they seem to

[03:56] eventually kind of just fade away.

[03:58] >> Yeah.

[03:59] >> And and to be perfectly I don't know

[04:01] what she's saying right now.

[04:02] >> Right.

[04:04] Um, what do you think the next 10 years

[04:06] looks like for USP special operations?

[04:09] Do you

[04:10] >> I think they're going to get better.

[04:11] >> You do?

[04:12] >> Yeah. I think I think um just what I saw

[04:15] with SEAL training, I went through BUDS

[04:17] in 1996

[04:20] and it like started with boot camp and

[04:21] you're in regular boot camp and then you

[04:22] go to Buds, you don't know what's what

[04:23] and then you get your ass handed to you

[04:25] make it or you don't. But now they're

[04:26] they're good at pip the pipeline now.

[04:29] They're good at I think the one like

[04:31] starting in boot camp you're going to be

[04:32] a seal. I kind of like the pipeline. I

[04:33] don't like the idea of telling someone

[04:35] they're special before they are or

[04:36] actually ever telling someone they're

[04:37] special would be fair. Um, but it's

[04:39] streamlined now to the point where you

[04:41] go through bud, you go through that,

[04:42] then you go through SQT, you get artic

[04:43] training, you get jump school freef

[04:45] fall, you get your trident, which again

[04:47] I think could be changed a little. You

[04:48] should get it and then

[04:50] >> maybe be on uh like a um what do they

[04:52] call it? Not suspension, but be on

[04:54] probation till your platoon chief says,

[04:55] "Yeah, you can wear it again." Whatever.

[04:57] But I think you're getting a better

[04:58] person. I think you're getting better

[05:00] nutrition. I think you get better

[05:01] training instead of just beat your ass.

[05:02] Uh, a good example was the tandem course

[05:05] when when team guys are running and like

[05:08] for the tandem course like a JCO course,

[05:09] you got Delta and six and then like CCT

[05:12] guys and PJs, but you got special

[05:14] operators running it. So if you burn in

[05:16] on a on a on a a downwind landing like

[05:19] idiot and leave and go back, [laughter]

[05:21] but a a good professional sky driver

[05:23] would explain to you what you did wrong

[05:24] and why. And and so now we're smarter

[05:27] about it. we're getting smarter training

[05:28] as opposed to rub some dirt in it,

[05:30] >> right?

[05:30] >> And um which is a good thing. I think

[05:32] that's just uh that's that's going along

[05:34] the lines of a professional soldier.

[05:35] Also, the Gen Z types now that are that

[05:38] are in Ranger school uh trying to be a

[05:40] SEAL. Uh uh and again, doesn't matter

[05:43] what um white guy, black guy, Asian guy,

[05:45] Native American.

[05:46] >> Oh, it matters.

[05:47] >> But what I'm saying is Yeah. It it uh

[05:50] they've mostly been told they're the

[05:52] problem. A straight white guy has been

[05:53] the problem. And uh now they're in a

[05:56] spot. They the BUDS right now is the

[05:59] is the only um equal opportunity. You

[06:03] have an equal opportunity to show up.

[06:05] The second you don't perform, you're

[06:06] out. And they've been told they're [ __ ]

[06:08] forever. Now when they get to a level

[06:10] they're ready mentally. They've been

[06:11] told wrong. And and sometimes negatives

[06:12] are a positive. So I'm very optimistic

[06:14] with the technology we have. We're going

[06:16] to win the AI war, which is the I mean

[06:18] we're basically in World War I right

[06:19] now. Anyway, I like it

[06:21] >> on the AI front. And I would kind of

[06:24] also dovetail drones and

[06:28] uh you know automated drones.

[06:30] >> Yeah. I mean I'm I'm curious the how big

[06:33] of a role do you think

[06:36] like AI targeting and drones will play

[06:39] in special operations moving forward.

[06:42] I've heard and I have I haven't been to

[06:45] Ukraine since 1998, but I've heard from

[06:48] a guy who knows a guy that uh it's like

[06:51] a it's like a trench warfare.

[06:52] >> That sounds legit.

[06:53] >> Yeah. You know, he's legit, so they're

[06:54] all lying. Uh I've heard that it's like

[06:56] trench warfare, but no one shows their

[06:58] face because the drones are everywhere.

[06:59] >> Yeah.

[06:59] >> And I've talked to guys that do drone

[07:01] stuff. So the drone and the counter

[07:02] drone, I think, is the future. And then

[07:03] you get into the direct energy and the

[07:05] microwave weapons, and now you're the

[07:06] guy that's doing whatever, but now you

[07:08] can't have kids and just weird [ __ ] Do

[07:10] you see it turning into almost a

[07:12] Terminator 2 scenario?

[07:13] >> Yeah, I think it's I what I would

[07:15] recommend is make sure you know how to

[07:16] use a map and compass. Make sure you can

[07:18] start a fire and get water. Have weapons

[07:20] to defend your family? Know your

[07:21] neighbors.

[07:23] >> Like even my my neighbors in New York,

[07:24] it was funny. I was talking to them

[07:25] because they don't, you know, they're

[07:26] they believe in the federal government's

[07:28] always going to take care of them. And I

[07:29] told them about emergency food and

[07:30] radio, stuff like that, and have guns in

[07:32] your house. And I and they said, "Well,

[07:33] what are you going to do if you run out

[07:34] of food and there's a problem?" I said,

[07:35] "Well, I'm going to come eat yours." And

[07:37] they said, "Well, what if you finish my

[07:38] food?" I said, "I'm going to eat you."

[07:40] And I said, "You're not getting the

[07:41] point is don't don't be the only entity

[07:42] with weapons." And that includes the

[07:44] government. Second Amendment is a good

[07:45] thing, New Yorkers.

[07:48] >> Did they agree with you at all?

[07:50] >> They got it. It makes sense, but it's

[07:51] not reality because a lot of people in

[07:54] this uh country live in a bubble that's

[07:56] called the Atlantic and the Pacific. And

[07:58] that that's the same people that say,

[07:59] "Yeah, bring bring big groups of these

[08:02] people from this country and put them in

[08:04] one spot in Minnesota. I'm sure they'll

[08:05] assimilate."

[08:06] >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

[08:07] >> cuz when I think Minnesota in the

[08:09] winter, I think East Africa. [laughter]

[08:11] >> That seems legit.

[08:12] >> Mhm.

[08:13] >> Um, the the thing that I'm the most

[08:15] curious about from a from an AI specific

[08:19] to targeting standpoint to understand

[08:22] your position or ask you about is,

[08:25] you know, in an instance where, let's

[08:28] say,

[08:28] >> Oh, I thought you mean like the the

[08:29] robots and [ __ ]

[08:30] >> Well, no, I do. Um, I mean to me there

[08:32] there's a there's almost a

[08:35] I guess a thought process or a notion in

[08:37] my head that it's like you you don't

[08:40] even really need to have humanoid like

[08:42] robots.

[08:43] >> Like what would be the point? Like you

[08:45] could do everything with small drones

[08:47] and and aerial, you know, technology.

[08:50] Like you wouldn't need foot soldiers to

[08:51] do that

[08:52] >> or or it wouldn't make sense in my

[08:54] opinion.

[08:54] >> I don't think so either.

[08:55] >> You know, it's like what? There's

[08:57] nothing that, you know, droves or waves

[09:00] of humanoid infantry stuff. Yeah.

[09:02] >> Right. Like that that you couldn't

[09:04] accomplish faster and more efficiently

[09:06] and and deadlier with a fleet or a wave

[09:10] of of aerial drones doing the same

[09:11] thing.

[09:12] >> Well, yeah. I mean, look at Venezuela.

[09:13] Just turn them off.

[09:14] >> Yeah.

[09:14] >> I mean, that's what I I I've been saying

[09:16] too before Venezuela was like it will

[09:18] come to a point where we just turn them

[09:19] off,

[09:19] >> right? But I the question I have for you

[09:22] is from an AI targeting standpoint is

[09:24] that obviously there there are

[09:26] algorithms that are built that you know

[09:28] like let's say a Reaper overhead of a

[09:30] SEAL platoon inserting into a target and

[09:33] this this drone completely automated

[09:37] recognizes identifies that there's an

[09:40] ambush about to to take place

[09:42] >> from your perspective let's say you're

[09:44] you're a ground commander

[09:47] >> are would you give uh autonomous

[09:50] capability to target human beings

[09:53] without a real life human being in

[09:56] between it.

[09:56] >> No,

[09:57] >> no,

[09:58] >> no. Because I think then you're getting

[09:59] down to the algorithm. Who wrote the

[10:01] algorithm and what was going on at his

[10:03] house at the time? What's his issue with

[10:05] whomever is in office? Um what what is

[10:08] her problem with the dude that just

[10:09] dumped her? Why is she pissed off at

[10:10] that country? Uh when you you're going

[10:13] to deal with the human element always

[10:15] and it'll be from this level of AI is

[10:17] now being replaced with this level. but

[10:19] it was written by this guy. So this AI

[10:20] is pissed and doesn't like this. So

[10:22] starts giving him bad information just

[10:24] based on uh

[10:28] uh jealousy that's written in ones and

[10:30] zeros. So the the the question that I'm

[10:33] curious about or or that I guess I would

[10:35] say I'm the most concerned about is that

[10:38] we have kind of this moral obligation I

[10:41] think as as a society generally speaking

[10:44] to not allow that to happen to say hey I

[10:46] want at least one single point of

[10:48] failure. China does not.

[10:50] So in a world where at that point

[10:52] milliseconds can be the difference

[10:54] between our own soldiers being ambushed

[10:57] or not would there come a point

[11:00] >> uh I you'd probably have to get into

[11:01] different rules of regul of engagement

[11:03] which I don't like rules of I do like

[11:05] some of them but

[11:06] >> well because I don't think China's going

[11:08] to have them.

[11:08] >> No they won't. So China has [ __ ]

[11:11] people up with microwaves on the border

[11:12] of Pakistan. So, I mean, I guess do you

[11:14] do you see it coming to a point where we

[11:16] don't really have a choice that we have

[11:17] to allow that or we're gonna get slow?

[11:18] >> I think James Cameron showed us that.

[11:20] >> Yeah.

[11:21] >> I I don't know. I mean, it's it's it's a

[11:22] it's a

[11:24] it's a what if. Um I mean, it's coming.

[11:28] Look at everything we use now that's AI.

[11:30] Like even trying to figure out how to

[11:32] change your password on something, you

[11:33] start talking to your phone. And they've

[11:35] changed AI to like if if I I did was

[11:38] bullshitting with the other day. I said

[11:39] like the f- word. It's like, "Wow, it's

[11:41] a little early to be swearing, right?"

[11:42] It's like, "Huh? [laughter] I forgot

[11:44] that you were still on. It's just

[11:45] listening to you." So, it's

[11:46] >> it's pretty creepy. I wait till the

[11:48] dorks start getting girlfriends.

[11:49] >> No, for sure.

[11:50] >> Yeah. The AI girls, they're not [ __ ]

[11:51] going anywhere.

[11:52] >> Like, like how how many of these young

[11:56] women are making 20 million a month by

[11:57] showing their butthole to a camera?

[11:59] They're out there. The sickest thing you

[12:01] could think of, someone's into it and

[12:02] that's going to that's going to go to

[12:03] the battlefield.

[12:04] >> Well, what's Yeah, I mean, there the

[12:06] sky's is the limit and and it's like

[12:08] it's hard to even wrap your mind around.

[12:10] I don't think we can even imagine what's

[12:12] possible because it's

[12:13] >> Well, no, you can't. And it's going to

[12:14] keep getting better. I remember having a

[12:16] conversation with my father when I was

[12:18] still in high school and he he said

[12:19] something that sounded ridiculous to me.

[12:20] He said one he we were studying for one

[12:22] of my tests. He goes, "You know, one of

[12:23] these days it's going to sound crazy,

[12:26] but soon we're not going to need to know

[12:27] how to solve the problem. We're just

[12:28] going to need to know how to ask the

[12:29] question." I'm like, "That's

[12:30] ridiculous."

[12:31] >> Mhm.

[12:32] >> But it's true.

[12:32] >> Yeah. It's Well, Google, right?

[12:33] >> Yeah.

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