Should a Mother Be Allowed An Abortion if She Didn't Want a Boy?

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[00:30] Boomer sooner you got here.

[00:32] >> What?

[00:36] >> That's good.

[00:36] >> You got to show us your hands though.

[00:38] >> Okay. Yeah.

[00:38] >> Yeah. Sorry. We have had weird people as

[00:40] you can imagine.

[00:41] >> Of course. Yeah.

[00:41] >> Get a couple different. So, yeah.

[00:43] >> My name is Dre. Nice to finally see you

[00:45] after seeing you countless times on my

[00:46] TikTok.

[00:47] >> Um, basically, you were talking about

[00:49] abortion and the rights of life earlier

[00:52] with this one girl. And basically, why

[00:54] would it be such a problem to change

[00:58] Why would it be such a problem to change

[01:02] the uh right to life after birth?

[01:05] >> Sorry, I was interrupted slightly. Can

[01:07] you repeat that though?

[01:10] >> Yeah, just go.

[01:11] >> What?

[01:12] >> No need to touch the mic. Just repeat

[01:13] the question. Yeah.

[01:14] >> Why would it be uh such a problem to

[01:16] change the right to life after birth?

[01:18] >> What do you mean by that?

[01:19] >> Well, like because if you're saying if

[01:20] right to life is before birth, then why

[01:23] don't we why can't we change the right

[01:25] to life after birth? would cause all the

[01:26] problems of legalization of abortion and

[01:28] the arguments between then and then also

[01:31] it plays into many factors

[01:33] >> I'm not tracking can you can

[01:36] >> yeah so so change the right to life till

[01:38] after birth

[01:39] >> that that's our current laws right now

[01:42] >> then why would it be a right to life for

[01:44] an abortion how could you make an

[01:45] argument against that if it's after

[01:46] birth

[01:50] no one is no one's contesting that

[01:52] >> yeah our perspective is that it's a

[01:55] human being all the way through the

[01:56] cycle of development

[01:58] >> as a human being all the way through

[01:59] cycle. But you said right to life after

[02:01] birth like after birth. So why would it

[02:03] be?

[02:05] >> You're a human being before and after

[02:07] birth. That's our contention.

[02:10] >> What?

[02:13] >> Well, you're a human being regardless if

[02:16] you're born or not. If you are in

[02:18] uterero at 2 months, you are still a

[02:19] human being.

[02:20] >> Okay. And then also I think that

[02:22] legalization of abortion would be like

[02:24] highly beneficial because you think

[02:26] about the cost of raising a child,

[02:28] bringing that child throughout adoption,

[02:30] all of that like that. And then

[02:32] >> hold on, guys.

[02:33] >> And then however, the cost of abortion

[02:35] will be a lot less. And then even in

[02:37] this crowd, there are people like before

[02:40] where they're saying like hypocritical

[02:42] comments about keep it in your pants, do

[02:44] all that,

[02:45] >> which you should. Yeah.

[02:46] >> Yeah. Still. Yeah. Like you should you

[02:48] should but like you can't control just

[02:50] like you said it's nature you can't

[02:52] control millions of people who have

[02:54] lived like 50 years of life who are

[02:56] voting on these topics highly

[02:58] hypocritically.

[02:59] >> Yeah. I'm not tracking totally what

[03:00] you're saying but um you said abortion

[03:03] is beneficial. I mean we've had abortion

[03:05] legalized in this country for 60 years

[03:07] about has it brought down crime? Has it

[03:10] been beneficial?

[03:11] I mean, if you're comparing it to the

[03:14] cost of raising a kid and seeing people

[03:16] that are alive that

[03:17] >> I mean, I I got to be blunt, man. What

[03:19] you're saying is it's okay to murder a

[03:21] human being just because you might save

[03:23] some money. That that is the argument

[03:25] you're making.

[03:26] >> Well, I've also said that's right to

[03:27] life after birth. Like, people are okay

[03:29] to make their own choices, but like

[03:31] you're you are

[03:32] >> I'm not tracking what you mean by right

[03:34] to life after birth. I I have no idea

[03:35] what you're talking about.

[03:36] >> Well, why not? because you're not is I'm

[03:39] just not I'm just not understanding what

[03:41] you're saying. Like

[03:42] >> Well, I'm saying that abortion like

[03:44] should be legalized and that it

[03:46] >> right. Abortion is legal in almost every

[03:48] state in the country.

[03:49] >> Yeah. And because of these benefits like

[03:51] it should be legalized like you

[03:53] shouldn't try to legalize it.

[03:55] >> Okay. I have a different position

[03:58] >> obviously. So when when do you think

[04:00] human life begins?

[04:02] >> Uh well I said after birth. So after

[04:05] birth.

[04:06] >> Okay. Got it. I mean, that's that, you

[04:07] know, that's an insane position. I mean,

[04:09] when a baby's at 34 weeks and responds

[04:12] to its mother's voice, has a heartbeat,

[04:13] has brain waves, its own DNA, and can

[04:15] empty its own bladder. Of course, that's

[04:17] a human life. I mean, self-evidently a

[04:19] human life.

[04:20] >> Okay. I would be I'd be able to

[04:21] compromise before that. And if it's

[04:23] >> You see how quickly though, I have to

[04:24] point you out though. See how quickly

[04:25] you can compromise like, oh, actually,

[04:27] maybe it is a human at this level and

[04:29] then at this level.

[04:30] >> Why is compromising such a problem?

[04:31] Well, because you're admitting and

[04:33] acknowledging that maybe it is a human

[04:34] being, which goes to our entire

[04:36] argument. Human dignity goes all the way

[04:38] back to conception. So, eventually we

[04:39] just march ourselves back on the

[04:41] timeline to its original point of

[04:45] creation.

[04:45] >> But what about the benefits and

[04:47] non-benefits? Can you tell me about that

[04:48] for abortion?

[04:49] >> The benefits.

[04:50] >> Benefits and non-benefits. Yes.

[04:52] Benefits.

[04:52] >> Oh, I mean, like, let's play this out.

[04:54] >> Pros and cons. Yes. So, do you think

[04:56] that if if a mother found out that she

[04:59] was going to have a low IQ child, she

[05:01] should be allowed to have an abortion?

[05:04] >> If she has the choice, yes, she has a

[05:06] choice.

[05:08] >> Do you think if a if a mom found out

[05:10] that she was having a girl, but she

[05:11] wanted a boy, should she be able to have

[05:13] that abortion?

[05:14] >> There are plenty of people that should

[05:15] have that.

[05:15] >> Yes or no? Should that be legal? Should

[05:17] sex selective abortions be legal?

[05:21] >> Yes or no?

[05:22] >> Yes or no?

[05:25] Okay. I guess I don't have an objective

[05:29] objective uh position on abortion, but

[05:33] if but you can't like if people can just

[05:35] lie to make up reasons anyways.

[05:37] >> Again, it's it's actually against the

[05:38] law to do it. How about this? If you

[05:40] find out you're having a Down syndrome

[05:42] kid, should you be able to have an

[05:43] abortion based on that information?

[05:47] >> I guess not. But that's not really

[05:48] against like the topic. your your answer

[05:50] just changed from yes for low IQ but not

[05:53] okay for down syndrome. That's weird.

[05:54] Why did it change?

[05:55] >> Okay, then I'll just I can just take it

[05:56] back. But like still like that's like

[05:59] not

[05:59] >> again again I'm going to get to the next

[06:00] question. It's respectful. You haven't

[06:02] thought very deeply about this.

[06:03] >> That's not the point of the top. I was

[06:04] asking about the pros and cons and you

[06:05] ask

[06:06] >> there are no pro. Okay. What I'm getting

[06:07] at though there are no pros to mass

[06:09] murder. Okay.

[06:10] >> Why are there no pros to abortion?

[06:11] >> Cuz it's mass murder. It's like Okay.

[06:14] Were there pros to the Holocaust?

[06:15] >> But Holocaust and abortion is not even

[06:17] close to

[06:17] >> You're right. Abortion's been much worse

[06:18] in this country. A lot more babies died

[06:20] than died in the abortion in the

[06:21] Holocaust. You're right.

[06:22] >> Yeah, but there also like there are also

[06:24] instances of life where

[06:25] >> how are they? No, like let's walk

[06:26] through it. How how are they

[06:27] categorically different? Are they both

[06:29] human beings?

[06:30] >> Uh

[06:30] >> do they both have futures? Were they

[06:32] both made in the image of God? Do they

[06:33] all have souls? How are they different?

[06:36] >> But how is the Holocaust and abortions

[06:38] different?

[06:38] >> No. Yeah. Tell me. But were they both

[06:40] human? Were all the people that died in

[06:41] the abortion holocaust human beings? Do

[06:43] they both have futures that were

[06:44] deprived? Were they both made in the

[06:45] image image of God? And that they both

[06:47] have souls. How are they different?

[06:50] >> I guess if you put it like that, but

[06:51] that's just highly subjective.

[06:53] >> No, it's not. It's objective. Okay. You

[06:55] have a lot more thinking to do. Thank

[06:56] you for your time.