Oops. Hey guys, I had just gotten over the horror of of the of the demonic possession and then Candace had to go and play a clip tonight of Erica Kirk going to Glenn Beck and then we prayed and we thank the Lord for our marriage. You know what we do, Glenn? You know HOW WE DO, GLENN. GUYS, welcome in. Welcome in. We got a banger tonight. Holy mackerel. There are so many things to cover tonight. It's going to be bananas. I got to start I got to start this way because it spilled up on my screen cuz I was watching it. Have you guys ever noticed coach is just jacked? I mean, just absolutely out of his mind on Roids. I had no idea. I had no idea. I was I was watching this video and every time they do a clip of him, he just gets more and more shredded. So, wow. Coach, I got a lot of catching up to do. I was pumping iron today, but I don't look like that. Uh, welcome jury. Welcome members of the jury. We got a lot to cover tonight. The opening statement is going to be a little shorter than normal. Going to be just a little shorter than normal. Oh, I forgot I brought in a tasty soda. This is not a sponsored segment. I just decided to do something different tonight. Instead of water, I'm going with a hum soda in my fancy Mason jar. Don't spill over. Don't spill over. Okay, good. Um, all right. Here's what we got to untap tonight. You remember when we talked about someone who may or may not have been sheep dipped in order to uh provide an intelligence cover? Well, if you liked that show, you're going to love tonight. Uh, it's going to be totally bonkers. Totally bonkers. This deep dive we're doing into the Erica France family into the now the Lori France version tonight. There's an Erica component to it. Cheers guys. These are not real sodas. Don't think I'm betraying my low carb ways. This is a hum soda. It's probiotic kombucha. Again, not a product placement, just a delicious, tasty beverage. Um, we're going to get we're going to get pretty deep tonight. We're going to get pretty deep tonight. So, I hope you have a five-point safety harness cuz you will fall off the edge of your seat. This is one of those night where you will fall off the edge of your seat if you're not cautious, if you're not careful. Uh, it could get ugly. So, I don't want that to happen to anybody. I love you people. And, uh, we're going to we're going to make it we're going to make it together. Hold on. I cannot get this font bigger. There we go. There we go. I have to get my uh my opening statement just a little larger so I can actually see it when I move screens. Here we go, guys. I have a shorter opening statement. You know, sometimes they run 15, 20, 25 minutes long. Not tonight. No, no, no. Not tonight. This one is clocking in well under a thousand words. And there's a reason. I had it long like I normally do. And I thought, how are we going to cover everything if I do a 25, 30 minute opening or 20-minute opening even? So, so I had to bring it down a little bit. So, here we go. I got to jump right into it. There's so many links tonight, so many different stories, and it's going to take me a little while to walk through all of it. So, I hope you are somewhere firm. If you're driving an automobile, be safe, cuz we're about to we're about to light the world on fire tonight. I got bad news for everybody involved. I got bad news. It's going to get ugly. Uh here's your opening statement. The country of Romania is a southeastern European nation with a population of about 19 million people. It's bordered by Ukraine, Muldova, Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary, the Balkans. WE'RE HUGE IN THE BALKANS. You people should know this. Uh it's also bounded by the vitally important Black Sea. It's capital Bucharest. It's a vibrant cultural and economic hub. The terrain features the Carpathian Mountains, the Danube Delta, and it has fertile plains that support agriculture, industry, and tourism. The economy relies on manufacturing, IT, and energy. It has a decent GDP for its size. Historically, Romania's roots trace back to the ancient Dian who were conquered by the Romans in 106 AD under Emperor Trajan. The result was what Rome called the Deia province. This Roman influence shaped the Romanian language. The Romanian language is a romance tongue in the midst of all of Romania's Slavic neighbors. After Romania's after, excuse me, after Roman withdrawal in 271 AD, waves of migrants started sweeping through the area and it forced the locals to kind of flee to the perimeter of the area. By the mid4th century, principalities had started emerging. These fledgling and loosely affiliated territories fought for autonomy and they had leaders like Vlad the Impaler resisting Ottoman incursions. You guys know Vlad the Impaler. Of course, he was the inspiration for the character Dracula. Fast forward to the 19th century, the 1800s. It brought a spirit of nationalism. The local principalities united in 1859 and formed what we now know as modern Romania. Independence from the Ottoman Empire was won in 1877 during the Russo Turkish War. After World War I, Romania expanded into greater Romania and it incorporated outlying territories like Transylvania and others from dissolved empires. World War II was brutal for Romania. They saw territorial losses to the USSR, Hungary, and Bulgaria in 1940. Romania allied at first with the Axis powers until about 1944 and then switched to the Allies just as the war was winding down. After World War II, the Soviets occupied Romania and by 1947 had installed a communist government. They abolished the monarchy and created what they termed a people's republic. By the 1980s, Romania's military landscape was dominated by its Warsaw packed membership under Soviet style communism. This severely limited engagement with Western Europe and the United States. Importantly, this left the collective West without any access to the strategically critical Black Sea as the Soviets had full or constructive control over every state on the Black Sea shores. The Communist era sputtered into repression and economic hardship that peaked in the 1980s. By 1989, it was drastic and a revolution overthrew the communist leader and installed a new loosely democratic government. Constitution was adopted in 1991 that established a multi-party republic and just 13 years later. Romania joined NATO in 2004 and then the EU in 2007. These two memberships, NATO and the EU, they marked Romania's full integration into strong historical Western institutions. Drilling into the important Black Sea area, particularly the port city of Constant, US involvement grew through the 1997 strategic partnership that elevated US Romanian relations. By the late 1990s, for example, US forces were using Romanian facilities for Balkan operations, including MK Air Base near Constant for US operations against Kosovo in 1999. After September 11th, 2001, Romania actively supported and participated in the US-led coalitions, deploying troops to Afghanistan in 2002 and Iraq in 2003, leading to NATO acceptance in 2004. As a result, the US realigned its bases in Europe. It established Joint Task Force East in 2008 for rotations into Romania and Bulgaria. This included access to MK air base near Constant and the Constanta port facilitating Black Sea operations on behalf of the United States. By 2010, about a thousand US troops were regularly rotating through Constant. The Black Sea port city of Constant became pivotal. MK Air Base, which is just about 1020 mi from Constant evolved in from a Soviet era facility into a US NATO hub. By 2005, US Romanian agreements allowed shared use of the base with Constant's port enabling logistics for Iraq and Afghanistan. By 2007, eight agreements governed operations. They covered training, security, and the environment. European forces like the French-led battle groups after the 2014 Crimea annexation also rotated through the MK air base. Since Russia's 2022 Ukrainian invasion, US and European presence in Constant has surged. The 101st Airborne Division deployed to MK Air Base. NATO allies added air defenses. Constant facilitated Ukrainian grain exports with NATO navies securing routes. US security assistance has exceeded a couple of hundred million annually and has modernized Romania's forces with F-16s and mobile rocket systems. European militaries have provided training and equipment, reinforcing Romania's eastern flank. Overall, the military transformation in Constant has transformed Romania from a Soviet satellite to a NATO lynch pin. It's safe to say Constant has emerged as a cornerstone of US strategy in the Black Sea region. Constanta now offers unparalleled access for power projection, deterrence, and logistics. Its location on the Black Sea positions it as a gateway to Eastern Europe. It also serves as a gateway to the Caucasus region in the Middle East. Constanta also crucially counters Russian influence on the vitally important Black Sea and strategically Constant counters Russian capabilities. It allows US monitoring of Russian fleets while MK Airbase supports intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions. The US views Constant as a buffer against threats to Muldova and Ukraine. Expansion plans announced in 2024 aimed to increase personnel to upwards of 10,000, making MK Air Base NATO's largest European base outside of Turkey. Baron, why you talking so much about Constanta? Oh, I'm glad you asked, cuz boy, do we have a jam-packed show for you tonight. Anybody know where Romanian Angels set up shop? Anybody have a clue? What port city? What vitally important strategic port city Romanian Angels was operating in? Anybody want to guess based on that opening statement where I think we're going tonight at some point? Yes. Yes. Yes. My friends, we will be in Constant. Not Castanza. Not like George Castanza. It's like Constanza with a T. Constant. Constanta. So, I wanted to give you the history so that you could see as we roll through tonight's program how Constant grew from a place where the US had really no presence for decades into a place where Romania sort of said, "All right, if you're going to set up bases on the Black Sea, here's a nice place to do it. Here's a nice place to do So, we're going to dive right into it. This is going to be, like I said, a vital show. An absolutely vital show. I'm going to start by showing you a map of Romania because a lot of people don't know where it is. That happens from time to time. We show some sort of a uh um an area here. So, this is Romania. If you wonder where it is in the world, that's Ukraine. That's Urusa. And then we got Poland, Germany, France over here. And we've got Romania right here in the middle. You see how vitally important that area is? This Black Sea area. This is the way that these guys get into the Mediterranean. They come right through this little uh canal right here that runs by Istanbul and it dumps them right out into the Mediterranean. So if you are Russia or you are Ukraine and you want access to the world, you get to do it through the Black Sea. For a long time, the United States had no real presence in the Black Sea. It was controlled by Turkey, Georgia, and the Soviet Union. And that's when the port city of Constant comes in. It's over here somewhere. There it is. Constant. You see this? This is a nice little area right here. This is a nice little area right on the Black Sea. Right on the Black Sea. So, I always wondered why Romania. Why did she want to go so badly to Romania? Well, we'll look at a little timeline that may help us get there. We'll look at a little timeline that may help us get there. So, let me open, ladies and gentlemen, with a patent application. This is a patent application that Nope, don't want to do that. I want to remove it and I want to get rid of it. All right, here we go. Let me get you a patent application. This will bring us to the beginning of our story. This is a patent application that began in 2010, but it was not complete until this filing right here on December of 2014. This was on behalf of Lawrence Ginta and Lorie France. There's some debate over whether they ever got married or not, but this is a patent application for really the most basic thing you've ever seen. I know it's got a lot of diagrams and it looks pretty complicated, but the reality is all they're doing on this patent application, and I can scroll down and read you the uh summary here. It's a method, an apparatus to use a computer to gather information and measure and determine criticality. Like this is a this is like a spreadsheet. This is just a spreadsheet with you you enter perceived values and it spits out whether or not a particular area is of high value or not. Method and apparatus for computerated research assessment of risk criticality and vulnerability for with respect to a site. And here is the summary of that. You've got this current asy here is AZTech International doing business as IMAT laboratories. Again, Lawrence Ginta and Lori Fransy. This is just the summary of what we just saw, but I wanted to show you this because you can see how it ties to AZ International doing business as I met Laboratories. Well, what were these people doing? Well, prior to that, these guys were lobbying. They were lobbying. What does any good government contractor do? You want to you want to do work for the government, you got to lobby. So, uh, IMAT Laboratories in 2006 was out busy lobbying. They were lobbying the defense and disaster and emergency planning avenues of government. So, we have a lobbying statement. So, we have a new product that's getting patented. They file for the patent at the end of 2004. They get their patent in '05. And then they immediately run out and start lobbying people to use their patent. Well, who is a tech? Who's AZ Tech? This is a tech is the uh was filed in this same era. So, we have the patent application. We've got the lobbying taking place. And we immediately have a let me pull that up just a hair. We immediately have AZ Tech operating in this suite right here. This suite is going to become vitally important to everything we talk about tonight. So pay attention to this suite. This is 8321 East Geling, number 101, Scottsdale, Arizona. This is going to become a hub of activity. This is ACT International operating in East Geling. It's going to become an operational hub of activity. I will show you what it looks like on a map because it's always fun to see maps. Here is your map. So, it's just an industrial park near the airport. Here's the airport, Scottsdale. This is just a little industrial park right here. And if you pull down, you can see it's just a pretty nondescript looking building. It's suite 101, which is right here in the corner. This is where a lot of activity takes place from 2006 until a year or two ago. So, what else is going on in this area right here? So, we have we're in 2006. They've opened up this business. They've got an operational location right here at 8321 East Geling. They've got themselves a patent. They've got themselves a lobbying operation. This is about the time if you go back to this ache filing, you will notice that the filing took place on Let me find the date. I've got the date right here. Yes, here we go. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. Let me go back to this one. This is the A Tech application. It took place on September 20th of 2017. That's that date right there. September 20th of 2017. That's Lori Francy's name. That's her signature. She's the CEO and president. This the the timeline here cannot be more critical. Keep in mind what was happening in the world in Romania when we were talking about this. So this is um that's not right, is it? No, it was 2007. Excuse me. September 24th, 2007, not 2017. Okay. So we have in 2007 2006 if you remember the opening we have the United States vitally trying to get access to Romania really trying to upgrade their access in Romania. You've got a patent application in 0405. You've got lobbying in '06. And then you have a um a business filed right here September of 2007. And now you have yet another business filed just a few months later. Anybody want to guess what business that is? That is this business, Everyday Heroes Like You. Everyday Heroes Like You was filed just a couple of months later. Just a couple of months later, it was filed. Here is your signature line. September. So Lori France opens AZ Tech September of 2007 and in November of 2007, Erica France and Lorie Fronveet opened the world famous charity, Everyday Heroes Like You. Now what did World famous Charity end up doing? Oh, that's right. They had access to Romania. They went to Constant, Romania, and they started traveling back and forth in that region right there. Now, I want to pause and I want to give you a break for just a second because we got to catch up. There's a This is just getting started. So, if you if you if you're not following along yet, you're going to be very lost. If I need to recap, I will. All of this so far has taken place between late 2004, early 2005, and the end of 2007. It's about a three-year period here. We've got an idea, and I will I will just spoil the surprise. The idea sucked. The idea was just a way, and I'll get to that in a second, but the idea was just a way to get a foot in the door. We got this idea. Oh, we've got this proprietary way to run spreadsheets. Now, we got to go lobby and we got to find somebody to buy our spreadsheets. The Defense Department, the the the Department of Energy, somebody's going to have to buy our ability to do spreadsheets. Oh, you want to buy it and you want to use it in Romania? Oh, we got to have a reason to get in Romania. We'll open a taxexempt charity that does work in Constanta, Romania. Okay, now that you're caught back up, let's go to Everyday Heroes Like You. Where is Everyday Heroes Like You located? Well, glad you asked because we know. Incorporated in 2007. immediately immediately took flight with numerous projects all over the world. Well, that's really convenient. I wonder if you had any access to immediate opportunities all over the world. Where was it located? Oh, East Gelding Drive. It was located in East Geling Drive. The same suite, the same area where our military contractor mother is opening up a spot. Well, that's awfully convenient. That's weird. How did that work? Can someone articulate that for me? Uh uh uh. Anyone? Any Oh, I can. I can. It looks like a sheep dip operation. It looks like a cover. It looks like you're trying to come up with a reason to be in Constant, Romania, where the United States is trying to establish operations. It gets worse. Here is an earmark. This is comes out of the defense bill out of the Army National Guard budget. This is a former representative Harry Mitchell from Arizona added this earmark. You guys know how ear marks are, right? You know what an earmark is? It's called pork. It's a way to get things into the budget. You put a line item in there and this is what happened. We got ourselves an earmark for IMAT Laboratories. You remember who IMAT Laboratories was? They're doing business as a tech, same company. IMAT Laboratories, AZ Tech, Scottsdale, Arizona. That's who had the patent. They get the $2.4 million earmark in the fiscal year 2008 budget. So again, we have a patent filed in late 2004, approved in 2005. We start lobbying in 2006. In 2007, we open up a company. In 2007, we open up a charity that can operate right alongside our company. And in 2008, we get a $2.4 million pork earmark out of the defense budget. Isn't that convenient? Well, what is this? What is J3 J6 National Military Cyber Operations? What does that even mean? That sounds awfully weird to me. That seems awfully weird to me. What? What? What? What is this earmark that's going to IAT Laboratories doing business as a tech? What What is What is What is that earmark? Well, let's look up what J3 and J6 is. This is the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This is the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the United States military. The body most senior uniformed leaders in the United States Department of Defense. Now, the Department of War, it advises the president, it advises the Secretary of Defense, it advises the Homeland Security Council, it advises the National Security Council. You've seen these guys. These are the ones at the State of the Union that sit right up front in their military garb. And they don't they don't move a muscle the whole time. They don't look happy or sad. They don't cheer. So what is these are our current members of the joint chiefs of staff. These are general general general general admiral general general general admiral. So let's scroll down and let's see if we can find out what J3 and J6 are. What are we doing over there with our stuff? Oh, here's J3. So this is the directorates of the joint chiefs of staff. These are the different departments. J3 is operations, the National Military Command Center, part of the J3 Directorate. And J6 is Command, Control, Communications, and Computers, Cyber. It's one of a group of agencies that administers cypernnet. We'll talk about what that is in a second. Other administrators include the National Security Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Defense Information System Agency. This is your spy department. Zippernet is the secret internet protocol router network, a system of interconnected computer networks used by the Department of Defense and the US Department of State to transmit classified information by packet switching over the completely secure environment. This is how they communicate without having to go over the internet. Who? Well, the NSA is doing it. The DIA is doing it. The DISA is doing it. So, we have at present a Lori France filing a patent for a basically a glorified spreadsheet and then she takes up lobbying. They they lobby the issue to try to find a contract. They open a company a tech off East Geling in September of 2007. in November uh November, excuse me, uh September 2007. Two months later, they open up Everyday Heroes Like You. That ends up operating immediately, as we read, all over the world. I can go back to that. Immediately immediately took flight with numerous projects all over the world. That's really convenient considering again you guys will recall what we covered the other night everyday hero heroes like you has never had to file a 990 because they've never raised more than $50,000. Yet somehow this random charity opened by a 17 or 18 year old girl immediately takes flight with numerous projects all over the world. And that's exactly the same time her mother gets a contract to work with the NSA, the DIA, the DISA, and this J6 command central communications, command, control, communications, computer cyber contract, and a little bit of operations with the National Military Command Center. Lest you think that's relatively innocuous, this is the command and communication center for the president of the United States and the Secretary of Defense. It's maintained by the Air Force. It's responsible for generating emergency action messages, missile launch control centers, nuclear submarines, recon aircrafts, and battlefield commanders. This is not a routine run-of-the-mill contract this woman picked up. This is deep intelligence. This is really deep intelligence. Now we go to a new company here and I'm going to have to share and then pause share and then share again because I don't want to show her address if I can avoid it. So we've got this E3 tech group also known by one other name which is AZ Tech International. So, this is the same company, this E E3 tech group. And I'm going to go back to here for just a second so I can scroll past her address. And I want you guys to see something here. This is the classification of the E3 tech. So, we know her mom is a woman. It's a woman-owned small business. If you are familiar at all with government contracting, you'll understand that that gives you intimate access to uh particular contracts. Womanowned small business gets gets advantages. There are what they call set aides and there'll be a set aside that a contracting officer might set aside and say 5% of our money or 10% of our contracting money will be awarded to womenowned small businesses. or they'll give it to a big contract and they'll say you've got to give a portion of the money to a womanowned small business or a woman-owned business. But I noticed as I was looking through here, there's a self-certified small disadvantaged business. I'm thinking this is a white woman, Lorie France. Other minorityowned business. Again, this is a white woman. Minorityowned business. economically disadvantaged womenowned small business, 8A program participant business. Well, I'm a been around the block a little while and I know exactly what an AA program participant business is. I want to show you from the code in just a second, the CFR. But I'm going to suggest to you that something's very wrong here. This was a huge red flag. The moment I saw this, I started looking at this and I thought something has gone terribly wrong because I pulled up the code of federal regulations because I'm a nerd lawyer and that's what I do. I pulled up the code of federal regulations, not the current one, but the one back in 2008. This is your CFR from 2008. Yes, this is what I do in my spare time for show prep, ladies and gentlemen. I pull up the CFR from 2008 and it's small so I may have to read it to you here but this is it right here. Part 1248A. That's why they're called ADA businesses. These are business development small disadvantaged business status determinations. And this is a way to figure out who are businesses, what businesses are we going to consider 8A businesses, which ones are we going to consider economically disadvantaged? Which ones, in other words, are we going to give priority to? And and let me just defend the federal government here for a second because I think there's I do think there's value in the ADA program. There's a there's difficulty for people to break into government contracting. It's not easy to break into government contracting. Me lower this for just a moment. When you when you want to break into government contracting, there's a ton of paperwork. You have to know how to game the system. Like the way you respond to a government contract is not I'm not someone said don't defend the federal government. I'm defending this one program. The way you break into federal government contracting is very very difficult. you have a ton of research that has to be done. A an individual response to a single request for proposal on a particular project could take months. And if you're competing against the same eight or 10 gigantic defense contracts every single second of every single day that you're doing this, you're going to lose every time because Lidos and Lockheed and Boeing have basically unlimited resources. So, if you're firing up a small business and you say, "Oo, I'd like to compete for that contract and then they look at your paperwork and then they look at Boeing's paperwork, you're going to lose every time." Boeing's going to win. Not because Boeing will do a better job necessarily, but because Boeing knows how to play the game better. So, the federal government came up with a way to do it. They said, "We're going to give certain contracts we're going to set them aside for small businesses and certain contracts we're going to set aside for minorityowned small businesses." And that's this section 8A. Whether you like it or not, that's the way the game is played. That's the way the system operates. You cannot like it. I know Tucker recently did a show on 8A. And they can be abused, don't get me wrong. But what's the purpose? The purpose right here is to authorize a minority small business and capital ownership development program. That's the purpose of the AA. Now, let's look at who qualifies. What are the basic requirements to be an 8A? You meet the basic requirements if it is a small business which is unconditionally owned and controlled by one or more socially and economically disadvantaged individuals. That's the requirement. Socially and economically disadvantaged. Well, who are these socially and economically disadvantaged? That's this 124103. Yes, I'm sorry, guys. I'm a lawyer and I'm a nerd. I can't help it. This is how my brain works. I saw that she qualified. Her business was an AA business. I've heard Erica tell everybody she owns it. She's the owner. And so I thought, well, she looks white to me. Here is the rules. Generally, socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias because of their identities and member of groups and without regard to their individual qualities. These are the members of the designated groups. There's a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially dis disadvantaged. Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, Native Americans, Asian-Pacific Americans, Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Korea, the Philippines, US territory of the Pacific Islands, Federal Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marana Islands, Guam, Samoa, Subcontinent Asian-Americans. These are people with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc. members of other groups designated from time to time. This is for minorities. 8A is for minorities. So, we go back and I want to go back and look. This is how Lorie France classified her business. An AA program participant. She's claiming to be a minority. The way I look at it. Now, again, this is all opinion based on what I have to look at. I've not heard from her. Maybe she has a different understanding of why. But I looked at a picture of her and I thought, "Is she black? Is she Hispanic? Is she Asian Pacific Islander? Is she from the Indian subcontinent? Where is she from? That she is a an economically disadvantaged woman? Where is she from that she's a minority? Where's she from that she qualifies for an AA participant? benefit. This doesn't make sense to me. It's crooked. But if you look, what you're going to find is this contract, this original contract that's right here, this E3 Tech Group contract was what they call soul sourced. Soul sourced. And because it was soul sourced, that means they didn't bid it out. It was an it was a no bid contract. And a no bid contract necessarily has to have some reason why it can't be fairly bid out. AAS can soul source contracts. They can go to the contracting officer and say, "Hey, I would like to have this contract." But where are these contracts taking place? You remember Erica said she was very active in politics in Washington DC. Well, this biggest contract that E3 Tech Group had was in Washington DC. half a million in Arizona where they live and a little under 100 thousand in California where Erica lived for a short period of time. Remember she said she lived in Venice. That could explain how one is very active in politics in Washington DC. But you would have to establish that she is somehow um somehow a minority. All right. Now, let me fast forward to something weird that's on their website. If you go to the E3 Tech website on their contact page, there's this line right here. Joint Service Achievement Medal for classified operations during Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom. Now, you remember Operation Enduring Freedom lasted, I think, until 2011 and Operation uh that was Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom was Afghanistan, I believe, and that that that lasted until like 2021. But I I saw this and I thought, well, that's weird. How would she have won a joint service achievement medal for classified operations? What are the requirements for a joint service achievement medal? Well, funny you ask, cuz I'm on the Air Force Personnel Center website here, and I found out exactly how you're qualified to be a winner of this prestigious award, the Joint Service Achievement Medal. To be eligible, you must be a member of the Armed Forces of the United States. In order to win the medal, you must be a member of the armed forces of the United States. You can't win the medal. And remember, this is on their website. I'm not saying that. I'm the I'm not the one saying it. They're the one saying she won the medal. Joint Service Achievement Medal for Classified Operations. And in order to win that, you must be a member of the armed forces of the United States below the grade of 06. And you must be assigned to organizations like the defense agencies, the headquarters of unified commands, the office of the joint chiefs of staff, the office of secretary of state. If you go back, do you remember what the original contract was for? It was J3 J6 National Military Cyber Operations. And we talked about that is an intelligence that was assigned to these NSA, the Defense Intelligence Agency. The J3 is working with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the White House, the Secretary of Defense. And so this medal makes a lot more sense. The only missing component is must be a member of the Armed Forces of the United States. Hold. I got to look. I pulled up a page and I can't remember why I pulled it up. Oh. Um, so let's let's roll out of this for just a moment. Let me close all these tabs out because I'm going to get lost and confused here. I hope you're following along at home. I hope this makes sense up to this point because believe it or not, it's about to get weirder because nothing about these people makes sense. Do you remember my opening from a couple of days ago where I talked about sheep dipping? I applied it at the time to Erica. I'm confident now that I should have been applying it to her mother. I should have been applying it to her mother. Do you remember this picture that we couldn't explain? This picture came out recently. This was Erica when she was Miss Arizona USA. She was meeting with the big dog, the highest, I think, ranking member of the enlisted forces for the United States Marines in Washington DC. There's her mother, Lauren Lorie France. And if you zoom in, everybody had trouble figuring out why she was wearing the insignia of an E8. I don't know if you can see that on your screen. I'll try to make it as big as I possibly can. You remember this? We were trying to figure out why she was wearing the insignia of an E8. It didn't make sense to me at the time. It makes a lot of sense to me now. A lot of you people are saying, "What is that?" Well, glad you asked, cuz I'll tell you precisely in a moment what it is. This is Well, I'll give you a cleaner picture of it first. Here's a better picture of what we were just looking at. You see that? That's a better picture there of what we were just looking at. Now, I looked up the best I can and every decorum website I could find said the only people who would wear this insignia on their clothing are members of the military. And if it's on civilian clothing, it's usually because they're retired, but members of the military and spouses of deceased members of the military. Short of that, nobody else wears this. And it's very unusual that anyone would wear it anyway. And this made the rounds. This made the rounds not terribly long ago. But I don't think when at the time it made the rounds, people had seen this that she claims to have won the joint or somebody at this company that she owns claims to have won the joint service achievement medal for operations. Let me show you what the insignia is. This is the insignia we were just looking at. It looks just like this in real life. This is the rank of the USMC E8 first sergeant. Don't believe me? We'll go back and show you. It looks just like that. That is the same insignia. Three up, three down, and the little diamond in the middle. That's the, as far as I can tell, that's it. Looks just like that. Well, the Here's a description. First sergeants, that's the E8 we just looked at, serve as senior enlisted adviserss, assisting the command off commanding officers in matters of discipline, administration, and morale. and welfare of the unit. They serve as the senior enlisted military in a company, battery, or other unit at a similar echelon. That is the rank she was wearing. Now, and again, just in case you forgot, it looks just like this. That's it. And I don't know why she was wearing it. But it probably has a lot to do with the fact that she claims or her website claims she won the Joint Service Achievement Medal for classified operations, which again, you have to be a member of the United States military in order to win that medal. So, let's pause here for just a second. We'll pause for a second. Let's take a deep breath because where we go from here, it gets a little weird. Could be a stolen Valor situation. I don't think it is. I mean, she's standing in the the that guy's office. I think he would look over there and say, "Ma'am, can you take that off? That's unbecoming." So, let's go to a leak that took place. Me pull up her name. Oh, that's got her address on it. Let me pull up the one that does not have her address. That one does, too. I got three copies of it. One of them does not. There we No, it does too. But I will clip it so it doesn't have her name on it. doesn't have her address on it. All right, you got to look at the bottom. There is a person here in this particular leaked document. There's a person here who is at the very bottom right there. You see that? Lauren France at the very bottom right there. Sorry. Sorry, Lauren. I don't even know if that's current, but this is a leaked document that's been out. But that's Lauren France, which is an alias of Lorie France. So what is this document? Let's go to the top. This is a document that was leaked of members of the intelligence and national security alliance. The INSA. ENSA is the premier notfor-profit nonpartisan private sector professional organization providing a structure and interactive forum for thought leadership the sharing ideas and networking within the intelligence and national security communities. INSA has over 150 corporate members as well as several hundred individual members who are industry leaders within the government, private sector and academia. It includes ex directors of spy agencies and current spies, ex white house national security staff, members and ex-members of Congress and their staff, senior military officers, senior corporate personnel and other notice notices. Uh you'll notice how many NSA people it has on here and then it starts having starts listing people down uh the way here. So Lori Francey is in this leak. Does that mean a deep state spy or anything like that? I you know Yeah. The way I look at it, it does. The way I look at it, it does. I mean, here's what I make of it. Here's my opinion on all this. This was all just fact. Just reading off the publicly available information that's out there. Here's what I make of it, though. I I tend to believe Miss France was in the military at some point for a long time. And and I believe that because her entire career is promoting things that you have to be in the military to have. For example, wearing the insignia on your civilian clothes when you go into the Pentagon or whatever office this was in where you're winning medals that you have to be an active member of the military to win. But you remember when we talked about sheep dipping, we mentioned Air America. And this was where you would take people in government employees and you would discharge them, military people, intelligence people, and you would discharge them, but not really. You would cut them loose and then they would come back on as contractors and they would fly missions. They would fly planes. That was the Air America example. Air America was a basically a CIA controlled airline that flew around uh Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War. And if anybody ever got caught, they would have um free reign to say, "No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't work for the CIA. I just work for this airline. It's a civilian airline." And they said, "Well, you used to work for the CIA." Yeah, but here's my discharge papers. I don't work there anymore. That's called sheep dipping. And if you wanted Lori France to be operational flying under the radar, you would do this. You would you would discharge her from the military and then you would give her a contract, a defense contract, and you would have her run over and set stuff up and be like, "Hey, she's just a contractor. She's just out there doing her contracting thing. She has no military connection whatsoever. no military, no intelligence connections whatsoever. I always wondered what her connection was. It never quite made sense to me that this random woman living in in Cincinnati at the time, if you hear Erica tell the story, she she she's very vague about what happened with her folks, Kent and and Lorie. Oh, they divorced when I was really young. Yeah, well, you were really about 10, you know. You know, I mean, I guess that's pretty young, but I mean, you were aware of what was going on. And you, you know, why someone asked her, "Why did you you moved to Arizona?" Well, my mom had more opportunity out there. She had more opportunity out there. There were more people out there doing defense stuff. What kind of people were setting up shop around her? Who were these people that were around Lorie France that were giving her this additional opportunity? What what's going to follow in this next segment is um some speculation, admitted speculation, but I'm just giving you an idea of what kind of people were setting up shop in this industrial park next to the Scottsdale airport. Let me pull up the LinkedIn page of a guy named Charlie Fer. Charlie Faraher. We'll we'll talk about who he is in just a second. We'll give you all the details you need to know, but I just want to pull up the LinkedIn page here so that you can get an idea of who this guy is and we'll tell you why we're talking about him. I'm not suggest this is where I just begin to speculate a little bit. I like to warn you when I'm speculating. Nothing else was speculation except my opinions. The rest of it was just cold hard solid fact. There's a guy named Charlie Farer. He's the CEO at Paradise Greens and the managing director at a company called Attacksaw. We'll talk about that in just a second. Lest you think they're not connected. Not only does he mention them there, here's a race car apparently he was driving that has both Attack Saw and Paradise Greens as a as a sponsor. Well, who is this guy? Well, for one thing we know about him is he has an FFL license. He has an FFL license, a federal firearms license. It's a type seven license right there. Type seven, which is the manufacturer of firearms other than destructive devices. Meaning you're making guns, not bullets. I mean guns, not uh uh bombs. And you'll notice his address here, 8321 East Geling Drive, Sweet 100, not Sweet 101. That was Lorie France. That was a tech. That was E3 tech. That was Everyday Heroes Like You. That was all founded about the same time. This is next door to that. This is next door to that. Well, what does a taxaw do for a living? How do we know them? Well, here's their website. They do security services, security consulting, active shooter solutions training, mobile training teams, drones, remote video monitoring, firearms, crypto tracing and recovery. They are an industryleading provider of these things. Quiet professionals who deliver proven solutions. Top tier personnel that have distinguished military, law enforcement, and executive protection backgrounds. And if you look at their services here, they have a they'll build you a pretty fancy gun. They'll build you a nice little gun. They have um great success in building precision rifles, AR and pistol builds that have been proven in the field. Proud to offer our expertise to the government, law enforcement, and military. So this is what they're doing here. If you look at their contact us though, this guy Charlie, if you look at him, he is born and bred, I mean, in Phoenix, Arizona area. Went to, again, if you go back to his LinkedIn page. He went to Arizona State University. He's been uh in this parag paradise greens and turf company since 2004. He's been the managing director at a taxaw since 2012. I mean, he seems to be a an Arizona guy, but if you look at his phone number, that is a Virginia Beach area phone number. That's Chesapeake, Virginia. There a lot of military intelligence things going on around that area over there. That's Joint Base Langley. That's that's all in area code 757 over there. What else do they do? Well, something else they do is sniper training. They have sniper training courses. And less you be confused that a tax is Armageddon. That's the A. And then Tactical Solutions is Taxol. A tax does sniper training courses. They got all this evidence here. This guy spent more than 20 years using sniper rifles. So, it's difficult for sniper schools to surprise me. So, when I was invited to Taxol's sniper experience course, I felt a mix of emotions. My excitement to get back on precision rifle was tempered with my typical skepticism. It did not take long to turn my skepticism into a very broad smile. A full-ervice training company in Phoenix, Arizona, can teach operators to use most weapon systems. The sniper experience course I attended was led by John Gibb. Well, there's your connection because John Gibb is one of the people on the formation documents for Attacksaw. He's a forming former AR army ranger as well as a proven military sniper and competitor. and Chase Straoud. Again, someone else on the formation documents, a world-class precision rifle shooter with numerous wins on the prof professional rifle series tour. These men provided incredibly broad and experienced perspective at the Legion operator training facility. It rivals some of the military bases he's visited for previous training. Has a thousand yard known distance range. 2 2500 yard unknown distance range. There are drop zones, a shoot house. Their website says you will train like a real US military sniper. This is the people whose business was next to everyday heroes like you and E3 tech and a tech for a decade. trained like a real US military sniper. Copious amounts of PT, head games, low crawls, 15 mile rucks, all absent. But all else was indicative of current training doctrine. 5 days long included lodging, food, ammo, and pretty much everything else you'd need. It's $4,000 for this class. And they were provided with a 308 sniper rifle. The day started on the thousandy yard range. Students getting solid evaluation or elevation numbers up to a thousand yards. It's very fancy. They're using computers and smartphones to to to get it to dial it in. Once dialed in on stationary targets, we engaged moving targets out to 800 yards. The 308 he was using provided incredibly accurate, making it easy for me to get solid hits on targets out to 800 yards. The optics was also incredibly helpful at these ranges, thanks in part to built-in level. He hit an IPSC size target at just shy of 1,400 yards. Then he went to a 300 win mag regular hits at 2,000 yards. Covered uh position shooting on barricades from alternate positions. He's an incredible shooter. He sounds like one. Sounds like an incredible sniper. This is just an incredible detailed description of an afternoon or four spent with sniper pros who happen to be based next door to a tech and E3 tech for a decade or so or more. Attend this one. Attacksaw has done a fantastic job of mixing practical training and just plain fun. Atmosphere and attitude is excellent. Instructions, uh, professional. And there's their website, attacksaw. Now, is this me saying one of these guys took a thousand yard shot at Charlie Kirk? No. Is this me saying one of these guys trained a shooter to take out Charlie Kirk? No. And let me give my standard disclaimer. Nobody should contact any of these people. Not Sharon or not uh um Lori France, not Charles Ferrer, nobody. Nobody needs to contact anybody. We've done our research and confirmed all this stuff. Nobody needs to call anybody, email anybody. If you look stuff up online, I'm fine with that. If you want to do a podcast and draw your own conclusions, I'm fine with that. But nobody needs to actually spend any time contacting any of these people. it would be wrong and I highly discourage it. But I don't think it's unimportant to note. I don't think it's it I I think it's important to note this stuff. I genuinely do, particularly when we have evidence that these guys are in fact also government contractors. Here they are on USA spending. There's that 8321 East Geling Drive Suite. and they've got some money, education, training, curriculum development. I don't know what they were doing, but it could have been a sniper school. It could have been anything. It's a small contract, admittedly. And in case you're wondering where the where this guy uh what this guy does in his spare time. Here is another company he formed called Global Intelligence Group. It doesn't sound innocuous to me. The Global Intelligence Group doesn't sound innocuous to me. It sounds like these guys are doing stuff. It sounds like these guys are engaged globally. This is another business he filed in February of 2015. This is again Walter Charles Ferrer. This East Via Lane I think is just a UPS store. Um I don't think it's an actual like don't you know obviously don't drive to any of these people's houses anyway, but it it does not um it does not appear appear to be a home address. So, I add all this up to myself and I think is it possible? Is it possible that we've been looking at the Charlie Kirk story wrong? Is it possible we've been looking at the Charlie Kirk story thinking his security team may have been the one that took him down. It is Is it Is it And again, I'm just using this as an example, but these are the types of people that were next door to them for over a decade. If you've ever been in any kind of these small office parks, you know how it kind of works. You you're either there for a reason and you're both there for a reason or you you get to meet people. What are you guys doing over there? Oh, we're in the defense industry. Oh, you're in the defense industry. Wow, you got some cool toys in there. I don't know that they ever met that that that attack saw may have never met anyone has anything to do with everyday heroes like you or anything to do with E3 tech or a tech or I met Laboratories or anything like that. It's it's possible they've never even met. But I but I speculate when I see that kind of a situation next door because one of my first instincts was when I looked at the UVU campus. Um, one of my first instincts was I'm not sure the Losi Center would be where I would take a shot. You know, if if I was going to take out Charlie, there are a lot better places I can think to to take the fatal shot than where the fatal shot was allegedly taken. I'll show you what I'm talking about. This is Let me make it a little smaller here so you can kind of see what I'm talking about. This is the courtyard. The famed courtyard. It's the manora looking thing here. This is the famed courtyard where Charlie Kirk was last seen living. And this is the Losi center up here where the shot allegedly came from right here. But we've already discussed at nauseium that there was no shot that took place from there. There was no 306 that hit him from that location. His head would have been gone. It would have just completely taken his neck off. That's beyond dispute. This has been tested a thousand times, thousands of times on YouTube. You can find any number of um any number of uh exemplar videos of people taking shots at various ranges, various caliber, I mean various uh grain weight, various powder loadings. every single time. Frangible, not frangible, full metal jacket, it doesn't matter. Every single time it's through and through. It just the 30 out 6 is too powerful of a weapon at that range. There was discussion that maybe something came off of the Sorenson Center. That's this building here. And that would have been a better angle. That would have been a better angle. I am entertaining the gunshot narrative for just a second. But you know what else would have been a great angle is this little thing right here. And I'll show you in a second why I say that. But this is the parking deck. So if you wanted to get up on a roof and take a shot from there to there and hit Charlie Kirk and get out of there real quickly, that would be the perch. That would be the location. Another possibility is this building back here. You actually can get a very good angle. I'll show you that in a second. from back here. This is an administrative building or something. Uh, and I'll show you the distances on these in just a second. If you drop a ruler from this point to where Charlie Kirk was, it's about a 300 meter shot. That's well inside the range these guys were shooting at the range that day where the guy said he was trained on day one, two, three, or four to take this shot at 800 meters and hit it pretty regularly. So, that's one option there. You're at 295 m there. If you go to this other little nub that I was talking about right here on the parking deck, you can go from there to where Charlie was and you're under 200 m. You're at 184 m. And I think both of those provide a better vantage point and a better uh possibility of not getting caught than as we saw off the Losi Center. This is the corner where that figure in black was seen jumping off of. You also had another situation because your library, the school library is back here. And if you remember the recordings from that day, and I don't have them pulled up, but if you remember the recordings from that day, there was somebody near the library who saw somebody in black tactical gear running away. I don't think it's unus unrelated that the Army ROC building is right there and the Center for National Security Studies is right here. That's your CIA pipeline program. But all this is taking place over here. But I I look at these two and I thought, man, that would have but that would have made it a longer shot. And in my mind, I'm thinking, well, that' been a really long shot. Especially once you get out this way, this Clark building, there was actually radio that somebody said they saw somebody jumping from the Clark building in black tactical gear or near the Clark building in black tactical gear. Well, that angle's all wrong to me, but this angle right here is really nice. This is a pretty cool little angle if you are uh if you are trying to take down Charlie Kirk. Let me switch it around. I'm sorry I'm making you dizzy doing this, but I want to zoom in here and show you how nice this little angle is and how nice this little perch is. You see that? You get right up on that perch, you've got a perfect angle. You're higher than everybody. Nobody can see you. You've got somebody watching out at the Losi Center making sure nothing happens to you. That's this building over here. Making sure nobody else is on any rooftops. And you just got a perfect little perch right down on top of Charlie Kirk. If you get a little closer, you can actually get right down on it and see how a guy standing upright would have a perfect little angle right there. And that's actually not a bad little angle um compared to the wound we saw on that side of the neck. So I didn't want to get into all that for the purpose of relitigating whether there was a bullet or where it came from or what the direction was or what the trajectory was and all that. But I do want to raise the issue that there are still a lot of unresolved unresolved problems when it comes to how did Charlie Kirk pass away? What ultimately took his life? It's beyond dispute in my opinion. It's well beyond dispute. It was not a 306 from the Losi center. That's nonsense. That's an absolutely nonsensical item. The angle's wrong and the round is wrong for that wound. But some of these other ones, I think people haven't spent enough time looking at what are some of these other angles if it was indeed a bullet, if there was indeed something there. And if you have somebody that's that professional, could they be shooting a lower paced smaller round like a 300 blackout round? Would that would that do that kind of damage? A 300 blackout subsonic round flies very slowly. It drops quite a bit. There's the wind has a a hell of an effect on it and it tends to tumble. But these guys sounded pretty fancy on that article I was just reading. These guys sounded like they knew exactly what the hell they were doing. So, I just I just raised the issue because I I think it's important that we dig into Lorie France. I think it's critical that we stop taking at face value everything we've been told about Erica Kirk's past. For example, I covered on this page uh on this show a week or so ago, maybe how Erica Kirk's real estate license, or maybe it was this week, maybe it was earlier this week, but Erikica Kirk's real estate license, she didn't actually get the real estate license until October of 2018, a month after she met Charlie Kirk. And so, she supposedly went to interview at TPUSA. Well, guess what else didn't happen until after that? Look at the date that Proclaim Ventures was filed. This is the streetear company. This wasn't filed until January of 2019. So, I think it's safe to say the streetear company wasn't making a real income at that point. Proclaim street wear was not even operational before she met Charlie Kirk. At least their filings were not operational before she met Charlie Kirk. I think it's just again one more one more nail in the c coffin of the idea that Erica Kirk is anything like what we've been told. one more nail in the coffin that Lori France face anything like what we've been told. The stories don't add up. These are This is I'm not saying they're sheep dipped intelligence operatives. I'm not saying she's a a military uh uh person who was sheep dipped into this defense community. I'm not telling you that that the Romanian angels was a cover to get into constant constant constant at the exact time that the US military was filing paperwork like this with the United States and Romania signed in Bucharest December 6th 2005. Where were they trying to go? This is the agreement. This is the They were trying to go to Constant, Romania. MK air base, right outside of Constant. And then Constantine itself, this maneuver area. This was 2005. This is when Lorie France was filing her patent. And let me tell you, read the patent. It is nonsensical that anyone needed this patent. The patent in government contracting is a foot in the door. If you needed to fake a government contract, but you needed to make it look legit, why did you just hand this woman a bunch of money? Oh, she's an ADA. She had a patent. We had to soul source it. We didn't have any choice. We couldn't bid this out. Nobody else had the patent. And the ADA gives us the hook to allow us to soul source it. And again, soul source it just a no bid contract. That means the contracting officer has an amount of money they're allowed to spend and they can just hand it to a company that meets any criteria as long as they're satisfied. That's all that means. And this is what we are dealing with. This is what a sheep dip operation would look like. Now put it in the context of her meeting Charlie Kirk. She wasn't selling real estate cuz she wasn't licensed yet till a month after she met Charlie Kirk. She wasn't selling proclaimed streetear because it wasn't even opened until two months after she met Charlie Kirk. The hell was she doing to make money? She It wasn't the podcast. The podcast wasn't making any money. I'm not even sure it was up when she met Charlie Kirk. Let me look here. Let me go back to Apple podcast and go to the first episode of the midweek rise up. I didn't know that this was happening before she met Charlie Kirk. No, this didn't even happen before she met Charlie Kirk. None of it was taking place. This is Welcome to Midweek Riseup, August of 2019. So, the podcast, the real estate, and the street wear all came after she met Charlie Kirk. They've all been used by people defending Erica Kirk to say, "Boy, she was so successful in New York City. She was just killing it. She was making money handover fist. She didn't need a job at a place. She just wanted to to do something, man. She just wanted to make a difference, man. She just wanted to preach economic libertarianism to college campuses, man. Everything's fake. It's all fake. It's all a lie. It's not true. It doesn't add up. The story doesn't make sense. The more you look at it, the less sense it makes. You know what makes sense to me? The United States government saw a recently liberated Romania that was wanting to break away from their Soviet ties and get involved with the West, get involved with NATO, get involved with the EU, help out in Afghanistan and Iraq, help out with Kosovo in 99. And the United States government said, "Hey, we like these people and they've got a very critical port on the Black Sea. We could use them. We could use these people. We just got to have a way in there. And then you have Romanian Angels just happens to open up in that exact area just about the exact same time they need it. So, I just I just hope you guys stay on this. I hope you stay on this. I hope you guys do not let this story die like Charlie Kirk died because it is it's just a devastating reality because if none of it makes sense, if she didn't have proclaimed street wear, if she wasn't selling real estate, if she didn't have a podcast, then her entire reason for being in New York City was a total lie. So, we have to ask the question, what was she doing in New York City? We're on that case. We're on that case. We just have to lay a little foundation, build the story as we go. We have to ask, what was she doing in New York City? Who was she hanging out with? What was she doing for money? We know she had that period of time where she was globe trotting with professional athletes and shacking up. We know that. But there was a period of time between the shacking up and before Charlie Kirk. And that period of time is a few years. What was she doing in those few years? And does it give us any insight into why Charlie Kirk is no longer breathing oxygen? Why Charlie Kirk has had to go to glory? We're going to keep bringing this story to you because it's it's devastatingly important. Devastatingly important. Um, well, I hope you guys enjoyed that as much as I did. Um, I'm gonna start with the grumblers here. Try not to be religious in the chats, but firing Carrie trying not to be, but firing Carrie Pjan from the White House religious liberty commission is enough. How can we send a big message to White House? We're angered. And Zion needs first needs to stop taking presidents. Um, I talked to somebody today. I'm going to let that story play out a few days before covering it. And and there's a there's a critical reason why. The guy I talked to about it, I'm also talking to, he was a personal friend of Charlie Kirk. He knew him and he knew intimately what was going on in Charlie's life and I want to talk about it with him and and uh we can't do it today. So um so I hope that I hope that makes sense here. Uh, need your perspective if the Nancy Guthrie media coverage, the level narrative curating is giving me cringe. How little I trust with the media spoon feeding. I can't watch mainstream news anymore. I respond to this because you you asked this before the show and I did respond to it. It's fake and gay. The news media coverage is fake and gay. Um, if you wanted to avoid talking about the Einstein affair, if you wanted to avoid talking about um the war drums beating on the way to Iran, that is very unpopular, you might be relieved to have Nancy Guthrie to talk about. Also, if you wanted to send the message that this is what happens to you when you cover Einstein, your mom goes missing. Because if you remember, Nancy, not Nancy Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie covered Einstein and actually had some of the victims on television and then our mom goes missing. So, keep that in mind. Keep that in mind. Uh, bear in my first super chat. Wish I could give more, but want to show my support for all your incredible work. Keep it up. Uh, love from Boston. Crisis King. I've got a Boston story coming up before long in one of my opens. I've already started drafting it. It's about the Boston bombing and how there's a lot more there than we were told that the FBI might have actually caught one of the other people. Let me say this. We got a new member today. If you weren't in the member chat yesterday, you missed a bananas show. Uh we went wild in the super chat yesterday. We talked about I don't even know. We started with Stephen Hawking and Einstein. The real Einstein, Albert, not not Jeffrey Einstein. We talked about Jeff Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking and then all of a sudden took a right turn into Mars and Venus and Saturn and the the the different explanations for humanity and early Genesis. It was nuts. I hope you guys enjoyed it as much as I did. I loved it. I loved it. Uh, yes, it was good. Yes, I will I will say that it w
