TPUSA Finally Breaks Silence on Candace Owens — And Challenges Her ON AIR

[00:06] Good morning, good afternoon, good

[00:08] evening, and good night. Welcome to a

[00:10] very quick edition of the Eron Mullen

[00:12] Show. I had to jump on and let you all

[00:15] know. Turning Point USA has finally

[00:19] snapped back. At who, you might ask? No,

[00:23] you wouldn't be because you will know

[00:24] exactly who I'm referring to. Candice

[00:27] Owens.

[00:29] For nearly three months, they have

[00:30] allowed her claims to go unadressed. And

[00:32] I get why. Why lower yourself to such

[00:36] rubbish? But finally, even for them, too

[00:39] much. [snorts]

[00:41] They've hit back.

[00:44] They've denied everything.

[00:46] They've talked about the hurt it has

[00:48] caused to everyone around Charlie.

[00:52] and they have set the challenge, thrown

[00:54] the ball back into her court, as she

[00:56] likes to say. Come on and address every

[00:59] single claim. Will she? I suspect not

[01:03] because how can she? But we will watch

[01:06] with interest. Finally, they have shut

[01:10] her down. Have a look.

[01:14] For the past two and a half months,

[01:16] there is a topic that has flooded our

[01:18] freedom inbox. It has been non-stop on

[01:20] social media, but which we have almost

[01:22] totally avoided on this show. You

[01:25] probably already know what I'm talking

[01:27] about, which shows just how ubiquitous

[01:30] it has been.

[01:32] Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace

[01:34] Owens has leveled a flood of allegations

[01:37] against people at Turning Point USA,

[01:40] people at Turning Point Action, and

[01:42] people who work for this show. She has

[01:44] made them against some of Charlie's

[01:45] closest friends and against some of his

[01:47] most dedicated employees.

[01:50] She has suggested that Michael McCoy,

[01:52] Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie

[01:54] would be murdered, was happy that he

[01:56] died, and stayed silent because he was

[01:58] told he would be the next Charlie. She

[02:01] has suggested Michael is not his real

[02:03] name. It is I have seen his birth

[02:05] certificate myself. She has called it

[02:07] suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works

[02:09] at Turning Point, helped plan the campus

[02:11] tour event where Charlie was murdered,

[02:13] which she didn't, by the way. She

[02:15] doesn't work on campus events. Candace

[02:18] has suggested the Utah Valley University

[02:20] event was unusual and its details

[02:22] suggested a quote inside job. She has

[02:26] claimed that foreign aircraft have

[02:27] followed Erica Kirk around the country

[02:29] and that Turning Point has lied about

[02:32] this happening. She has accused us of

[02:34] lying about Charlie wanting Erica to

[02:36] take over for him if he died. She has

[02:39] suggested Charlie's security team

[02:41] intentionally denied him first aid after

[02:44] the shooting to ensure that he died. She

[02:47] has raised suspicions about the head of

[02:48] our technical team because he took an SD

[02:51] card out of a camera. She has spread

[02:54] absurd claims that Tyler Boer, who we

[02:57] just had on the show, sexually abuses

[02:59] male interns. She has suggested that

[03:02] TPUSA faith affiliated pastors like

[03:05] theologian Frank Turk, who we'll have on

[03:06] in a moment, and pastor Rob McCoy, are

[03:09] part of a military quote infiltration of

[03:12] Turning Point, either because they are

[03:14] veterans or because they have family

[03:16] members who are. Even if not everyone

[03:19] has been named specifically though,

[03:20] Candace has effectively tred everyone

[03:23] here with complicity in Charlie's death

[03:25] by repeatedly saying he was quote

[03:28] betrayed by quote everyone. She has said

[03:32] Charlie's murder quote had to be

[03:34] approved by Charlie's friends and then

[03:36] suggested those friends might have her

[03:38] murdered too for quote knowing the

[03:41] truth. She has made claims of financial

[03:44] impropriety and fraud at turning point

[03:46] adding up into the millions of dollars

[03:48] which again is not true. Charlie made

[03:51] sure the organization was audited by a

[03:53] third party every year. He personally

[03:55] reviewed and he signed off on every

[03:57] expense report and literally every

[04:00] single bill paid by the organization

[04:02] down to a single United States dollar.

[04:06] We have never missed a 990 deadline.

[04:09] Candace has made other stranger

[04:11] allegations involving French

[04:12] paratroopers in maroon shirts, uh

[04:14] Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of

[04:16] Provo, Utah, and potential underground

[04:19] assassins traveling through unseen

[04:21] tunnels. At this at one point in early

[04:23] November, she started wildly throwing

[04:25] suspicion on members of Utah Valley's

[04:28] soccer team for wearing hoodies. I could

[04:32] go on. There is always something new

[04:34] coming up and none of it ever pans out

[04:36] because from the start there has been

[04:39] nothing there. The attacks and

[04:42] allegations from Candace are either lies

[04:44] or they are innuendos thrown around with

[04:47] a total reckless disregard for the truth

[04:50] so that Candace can manipulate and

[04:52] string along an audience of people who

[04:54] don't realize they are being played.

[04:57] Instead of being able to grieve properly

[04:59] after one of the most heinous murders in

[05:01] American history, a murder many of us

[05:03] had to witness, my friends have had to

[05:06] endure harassment from people who have

[05:09] gotten whipped up by what Candace is

[05:10] saying. In fact, I would say we have

[05:13] suffered more harassment from these

[05:15] people than we have from Antifa

[05:17] supporters who overtly celebrate

[05:20] Charlie's murder. And just like a lot of

[05:22] those Antifa members, many of these

[05:24] people take this delight in how gross

[05:27] and unpleasant they can be. What our

[05:29] friends have had to endure is not funny

[05:32] and it's not insignificant. It is evil.

[05:35] I have seen it.

[05:37] For months, we have received hundreds,

[05:39] thousands, I suspect, emails and calls

[05:42] asking us to respond. People have wanted

[05:44] us to invite Candace on the show. But

[05:47] for a long time, our approach was to say

[05:50] nothing. We did that for several

[05:52] reasons. First, we've first, we thought

[05:55] that her prearications were so absurd

[05:58] that nobody would believe them. We

[06:00] shouldn't have to answer questions about

[06:03] secret tunnels or Egyptian Air Force

[06:05] planes. That sort of thing is just it's

[06:07] beneath contempt to respond to. The

[06:10] second reason we've said so little,

[06:12] though, is because there's a good rule

[06:13] of thumb, which Charlie followed. Do not

[06:15] feed the trolls. Focus on the mission.

[06:18] Reviving America, uplifting young

[06:19] people, making heaven crowded. Don't

[06:22] give heir to people who want to tear you

[06:24] down. And so discord. Lastly, we didn't

[06:28] respond because

[06:31] Charlie always viewed Candace as a

[06:32] friend and we were holding out hope that

[06:35] she would return that friendship and

[06:37] stop what she was doing.

[06:40] But a week from now, it's going to be 3

[06:42] months since Charlie's murder. Candace

[06:45] has not changed her behavior. She has

[06:48] continued to spread falsehoods about

[06:50] Charlie's friends, and she continues to

[06:53] concoct new ones, about new people.

[06:55] She's using these falsehoods to enrich

[06:57] herself while dividing the conservative

[07:00] movement at an absolutely critical time

[07:02] for this country. And far too often, we

[07:06] here have heard from ordinary people,

[07:08] people who loved Charlie and who Charlie

[07:10] loved so much in return. These people

[07:12] have expressed the worry that we are

[07:14] staying silent out of cowardice or as

[07:16] some sort of tacit admission that some

[07:18] of the attacks are true. Neither is the

[07:20] case. Our silence has never been and it

[07:24] will never be equal to complacency or

[07:27] approval. Still, we decided Charlie

[07:31] would not allow this to go on. Charlie

[07:33] was not a coward. Charlie was a fighter.

[07:36] Charlie would not allow someone to

[07:38] spread lies about the people closest to

[07:41] him with impunity, and he would feel

[07:43] ashamed if other people were stepping up

[07:45] to defend his friends while he never did

[07:47] so himself.

[07:50] Candace has mentioned several times that

[07:53] the ball is in our court. So, here's

[07:56] what is going to happen. In the near

[07:58] future, there will be a live stream here

[08:00] in Phoenix where we address in a clear

[08:03] and comprehensive way the claims and

[08:05] accusations, the false accusations that

[08:08] have been made against Charlie's family,

[08:10] friends, and the people here at Turning

[08:12] Point. We plan to walk through

[08:14] everything carefully and thoroughly. If

[08:16] Candace is available, we would sincerely

[08:18] welcome her participation in that live

[08:21] stream at our studio here in Phoenix. At

[08:24] this point, we believe the ball is back

[08:27] in her court. Our motivation for doing

[08:30] this is not out of any obligation to

[08:32] Candace. It is about honoring Charlie.

[08:35] We feel a deep responsibility to protect

[08:37] his legacy, his work, and the truth. I

[08:39] feel that I owe Charlie everything in my

[08:43] life. It I feel it immensely.

[08:47] And that is why we feel compelled to

[08:49] speak clearly and openly now. We'll have

[08:52] more on this in the near future.

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome to a very quick edition of the Eron Mullen Show. I had to jump on and let you all know. Turning Point USA has finally snapped back. At who, you might ask? No, you wouldn't be because you will know exactly who I'm referring to. Candice Owens. For nearly three months, they have allowed her claims to go unadressed. And I get why. Why lower yourself to such rubbish? But finally, even for them, too much. [snorts] They've hit back. They've denied everything. They've talked about the hurt it has caused to everyone around Charlie. and they have set the challenge, thrown the ball back into her court, as she likes to say. Come on and address every single claim. Will she? I suspect not because how can she? But we will watch with interest. Finally, they have shut her down. Have a look. For the past two and a half months, there is a topic that has flooded our freedom inbox. It has been non-stop on social media, but which we have almost totally avoided on this show. You probably already know what I'm talking about, which shows just how ubiquitous it has been. Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show. She has made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees. She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie. She has suggested Michael is not his real name. It is I have seen his birth certificate myself. She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way. She doesn't work on campus events. Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a quote inside job. She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country and that Turning Point has lied about this happening. She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died. She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died. She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera. She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns. She has suggested that TPUSA faith affiliated pastors like theologian Frank Turk, who we'll have on in a moment, and pastor Rob McCoy, are part of a military quote infiltration of Turning Point, either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are. Even if not everyone has been named specifically though, Candace has effectively tred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying he was quote betrayed by quote everyone. She has said Charlie's murder quote had to be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too for quote knowing the truth. She has made claims of financial impropriety and fraud at turning point adding up into the millions of dollars which again is not true. Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third party every year. He personally reviewed and he signed off on every expense report and literally every single bill paid by the organization down to a single United States dollar. We have never missed a 990 deadline. Candace has made other stranger allegations involving French paratroopers in maroon shirts, uh Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of Provo, Utah, and potential underground assassins traveling through unseen tunnels. At this at one point in early November, she started wildly throwing suspicion on members of Utah Valley's soccer team for wearing hoodies. I could go on. There is always something new coming up and none of it ever pans out because from the start there has been nothing there. The attacks and allegations from Candace are either lies or they are innuendos thrown around with a total reckless disregard for the truth so that Candace can manipulate and string along an audience of people who don't realize they are being played. Instead of being able to grieve properly after one of the most heinous murders in American history, a murder many of us had to witness, my friends have had to endure harassment from people who have gotten whipped up by what Candace is saying. In fact, I would say we have suffered more harassment from these people than we have from Antifa supporters who overtly celebrate Charlie's murder. And just like a lot of those Antifa members, many of these people take this delight in how gross and unpleasant they can be. What our friends have had to endure is not funny and it's not insignificant. It is evil. I have seen it. For months, we have received hundreds, thousands, I suspect, emails and calls asking us to respond. People have wanted us to invite Candace on the show. But for a long time, our approach was to say nothing. We did that for several reasons. First, we've first, we thought that her prearications were so absurd that nobody would believe them. We shouldn't have to answer questions about secret tunnels or Egyptian Air Force planes. That sort of thing is just it's beneath contempt to respond to. The second reason we've said so little, though, is because there's a good rule of thumb, which Charlie followed. Do not feed the trolls. Focus on the mission. Reviving America, uplifting young people, making heaven crowded. Don't give heir to people who want to tear you down. And so discord. Lastly, we didn't respond because Charlie always viewed Candace as a friend and we were holding out hope that she would return that friendship and stop what she was doing. But a week from now, it's going to be 3 months since Charlie's murder. Candace has not changed her behavior. She has continued to spread falsehoods about Charlie's friends, and she continues to concoct new ones, about new people. She's using these falsehoods to enrich herself while dividing the conservative movement at an absolutely critical time for this country. And far too often, we here have heard from ordinary people, people who loved Charlie and who Charlie loved so much in return. These people have expressed the worry that we are staying silent out of cowardice or as some sort of tacit admission that some of the attacks are true. Neither is the case. Our silence has never been and it will never be equal to complacency or approval. Still, we decided Charlie would not allow this to go on. Charlie was not a coward. Charlie was a fighter. Charlie would not allow someone to spread lies about the people closest to him with impunity, and he would feel ashamed if other people were stepping up to defend his friends while he never did so himself. Candace has mentioned several times that the ball is in our court. So, here's what is going to happen. In the near future, there will be a live stream here in Phoenix where we address in a clear and comprehensive way the claims and accusations, the false accusations that have been made against Charlie's family, friends, and the people here at Turning Point. We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly. If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in that live stream at our studio here in Phoenix. At this point, we believe the ball is back in her court. Our motivation for doing this is not out of any obligation to Candace. It is about honoring Charlie. We feel a deep responsibility to protect his legacy, his work, and the truth. I feel that I owe Charlie everything in my life. It I feel it immensely. And that is why we feel compelled to speak clearly and openly now. We'll have more on this in the near future.