Alex Marlow Reveals Final Conversations with Charlie Kirk Before His Death and His Unwavering Support for Israel

[00:00] My last chat with Charlie was on his

[00:03] radio show the Monday before he died. He

[00:06] ended the segment five minutes earlier

[00:07] than usual. Normally I get about a half

[00:09] an hour with him and but he cut me off 5

[00:11] minutes earlier which I thought well I

[00:12] guess I didn't bring the heat today. I

[00:13] don't know like maybe wasn't maybe it

[00:15] wasn't my best day. We would speak about

[00:18] uh once a week on his show which was an

[00:19] honor. And he actually wanted to just go

[00:23] on a rant. He wanted to opine. He wanted

[00:26] to apply specifically on that young

[00:28] liberal women would be happier if they

[00:31] got married and had children.

[00:33] So this wasn't some sort of grandiose

[00:35] political statement. He wasn't talking

[00:36] about some bill that's come through

[00:38] Congress. He said, "I'm going to let

[00:39] Marlo run here because I want to talk

[00:41] about how men have a God-given direction

[00:45] to start a family." Isn't that the

[00:48] truth? Isn't that a wonderful message?

[00:50] But what's interesting in apppropo today

[00:52] because I'm starting off the Israel

[00:53] section of of the day and I'll be back

[00:55] for the media section as well. So

[00:56] hopefully all of you are here all night.

[00:58] Um my last chat with him was actually

[01:01] supposed to be on Zoom the night before

[01:04] he died. Charlie and I were in a group

[01:07] chat. It's not very big. Maybe 10 or so

[01:09] people that Charlie trusts specifically

[01:12] on the topic of Israel. And you're going

[01:15] to get a kick out of what the group chat

[01:16] is called. It's called saving

[01:18] civilization.

[01:21] So, a little grandiose, right? And when

[01:24] Charlie started it and he he included me

[01:26] in it, I was thinking, "Well, that's

[01:28] that's funny." But knowing Charlie,

[01:31] maybe it wasn't maybe it wasn't a joke

[01:34] at all. Maybe it was him being literal

[01:37] and it was an honor to be included in

[01:38] it. But the night before he was

[01:40] murdered, we were on the chat on this

[01:42] Zoom call. I unfortunately was not on it

[01:46] because I was at swim team trying to be

[01:49] a good dad, which is ironic given the

[01:51] previous conversations, but I wish I'd

[01:53] been there. It's at least to talk to my

[01:55] friend one last time. But what was

[01:57] interesting is that the subject of what

[01:59] would have been my last call with

[02:00] Charlie was actually to prepare for

[02:02] hostile questions about Israel on

[02:04] campus.

[02:06] And the way the call ended, according to

[02:08] one of my friends who was on the call,

[02:09] he said the final sentiment of the call

[02:13] was these are the pillars to save

[02:14] Western civilization.

[02:17] Jews,

[02:18] Christians, America, and Israel. And he

[02:23] said, Charlie immediately reacted with

[02:24] an affirmation. Exactly. That's what it

[02:27] is. So, since his assassination, a lot

[02:29] of anti-Israel voices have claimed he

[02:31] turned on Israel, but it's just not so.

[02:33] He's one of its starch staunchest

[02:35] defenders in my generation. I'm read

[02:38] some quotes. I'm very pro-Israel. My

[02:40] whole life I have defended Israel. He

[02:42] said this recently and no non-Jewish

[02:45] person my age has a longer or clearer

[02:48] record of support for Israel than I do.

[02:51] And let me just say this. The night

[02:52] before he died, he was preparing to

[02:54] defend the Jewish state in his final

[02:56] hours. This is why you saw rabbis weep

[02:59] for him when he died. But he did have

[03:02] this unenviable task of trying to unite

[03:04] factions of a movement, the MAGA

[03:06] movement, that's increasingly skeptical

[03:09] of Israel. So your mind probably goes

[03:12] the obvious place. What's changed? Have

[03:14] things changed? Why do things feel more

[03:16] divided? Israel is a lone Jewish state

[03:19] on earth. It's got biblical roots,

[03:21] Middle East loan democracy, its thriving

[03:23] industry, culture, whereas most of its

[03:25] neighbors have been overwhelmed by

[03:27] barbarism, Islamism, things we kind of

[03:29] all agree are not great. So the details

[03:31] of October 7th, these are not unfamiliar

[03:35] to you. Israel invaded, families burned

[03:38] alive, hostages taken.

[03:41] Maybe some of the original claims were

[03:42] exaggerated, but what's known for sure

[03:44] is certainly bad enough to merit a

[03:46] robust response.

[03:48] So things were bad enough that what

[03:51] Israel decided to do was actually take

[03:54] the war to completion. And I think this

[03:56] is one of the things that changed.

[03:59] When you see a state like Hamas that

[04:02] believes that Israel does not have a

[04:03] right to exist, then after the events of

[04:05] October 7th, it was clear to Israel that

[04:07] we cannot coexist next to this group of

[04:10] people. We can't do it anymore.

[04:13] So Netanyahu sees that he's a fighter,

[04:15] but what he's doing that's different is

[04:17] that he's trying to fight the war to

[04:18] completion. I say this, I judge it

[04:21] positively to be honest with you. I'm

[04:22] just trying to clarify what's going on.

[04:25] He's fighting a war to victory and we're

[04:27] not used to this. That's one thing

[04:28] that's changed. We're in the late stage

[04:30] of a war. We're accustomed to fighting

[04:32] wars to ceasefires. That's how Western

[04:35] countries have done it since Hiroshima.

[04:37] For some reason, we're uncomfortable

[04:39] seeing a war to victory. Maybe victory

[04:41] feels worse in some way. I don't know. I

[04:43] have I've never witnessed one. I'm just

[04:44] about to turn 40, so it's I've never

[04:46] seen us win one. So, but after October

[04:49] 7th, after the invasions, after the

[04:51] kidnapping, Israel says, "No, we're not

[04:52] going to live next to Hamas anymore.

[04:54] We're going to defeat them. Hamas wants

[04:57] Muslim control over everything, and that

[04:58] includes Israel. So, what do you how do

[05:01] you even have a ceasefire with such a

[05:02] group?"

[05:03] So the world does hate watching this

[05:07] though

[05:08] and that's why Netanyahu has become

[05:11] aware of this. He said this recently. I

[05:13] don't want stories that we have been

[05:14] beaten by our enemies for us to be

[05:16] eulogized well in the global media. I

[05:19] agree completely.

[05:22] Even Trump himself hates this. You know,

[05:23] I wrote extensively about Joe Biden. It

[05:26] was part of my research. The the

[05:28] proverbial I did the research so you

[05:29] don't have to sort of situation.

[05:32] spending a year and a half reading about

[05:33] Joe Biden. Um,

[05:36] but that October 7th, I put squarely on

[05:40] Joe Biden's feet. I do. It was his

[05:43] weakness towards Israel, the worst ally

[05:46] possible. And he staffed his

[05:48] administration with Hamas sympathizers.

[05:50] After Hamas attacked Israel, the United

[05:52] States Office for Palestinian Affairs

[05:54] under Biden called Israelis called for

[05:57] called for Israelis to refrain from

[06:00] violence and retaliatory attacks. That

[06:03] was the Biden administration's response.

[06:06] Not to mention, he abandoned those

[06:07] weapons in Afghanistan that could have

[06:09] easily ended up in the hands of Hamas.

[06:11] So Trump didn't want doesn't want

[06:12] anything to do with this. This is a mess

[06:14] that Biden made. He doesn't want to

[06:15] spend time cleaning it up. And it's

[06:17] brutal. And we're not accustomed to

[06:20] seeing all this play out on the internet

[06:22] in the graphic detail the way we are.

[06:25] So with the best the best point I can

[06:29] make here is that while Israel is on the

[06:32] front lines against Sharia supremacy

[06:35] which is coming you can see it

[06:37] throughout Europe. You guys saw this

[06:40] week that now in Dearbornne, which is in

[06:42] America, by the way, contrary to what

[06:43] might be some people might think,

[06:45] they're trying to name a street after a

[06:47] terrorist supporting newspaper publisher

[06:49] in the United States. This would be a

[06:52] five alarm five alarm fire 20 years ago

[06:54] in this country, but for now, it's just

[06:56] one line in a newspaper or on a website

[06:59] like mine.

[07:01] Charlie was aware of the Islamist

[07:03] threat. He had this tweet. I'm going to

[07:05] read it to you. It was viewed 67 million

[07:08] times on X.

[07:10] Islam is not compatible with Western

[07:12] civilization.

[07:17] 67 million. [applause]

[07:22] So what are the best arguments against

[07:24] it? In Islamic supremacist regimes,

[07:27] women are oppressed, gays are executed,

[07:30] sexual violence is the norm. Freedom is

[07:32] non-existent for most and very limited

[07:34] for everyone else. And we know what

[07:37] Charlie thought about freedom.

[07:40] What's more, Hamas is playing games with

[07:43] food aid. They're starving hostages and

[07:45] even some of their own people. Why are

[07:46] they doing this? Because it creates a

[07:48] global PR crisis for Israel. And it's

[07:51] effective

[07:53] given the media, given the global media.

[07:55] Hamas using their own people as human

[07:57] shields, storing weapons in schools,

[07:59] storing weapons in hospitals,

[08:00] effectually creating a genocide against

[08:02] their own people is asymmetric warfare

[08:06] because of the global press, because of

[08:08] the nature of energy online. They

[08:10] understand that all of it somehow

[08:12] creates pressure on Israel. It's Israel

[08:14] that drops food and leaflets to warn

[08:16] Palestinians when bombs are coming. It's

[08:18] Israel that posts evacuation maps. No

[08:21] one fights wars like this.

[08:24] They actually feed their enemies. They

[08:27] warn civilians of attacks and they will

[08:29] even treat terrorists in hospitals. You

[08:31] contrast that with October 7th and it's

[08:33] pretty clear which one's on the morally

[08:34] righteous side.

[08:37] But for me, a top argument as a

[08:39] Christian for why I support Israel and

[08:42] why I want Israel to win this war

[08:45] comes in the form of a question. I'll

[08:47] ask it to all of you. Get your reaction.

[08:49] Who would you prefer have control of the

[08:52] Holy Land, the Islamists or Israel?