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Examining Internet Theories About Charlie Kirk Assassination at Utah Valley University Without Drawing Conclusions
The hosts analyze various theories circulating online about the assassination of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University, including the transgender activist theory, the mystery sniper theory, and the controversial Israel connection theory. They emphasize repeatedly that they are not endorsing any particular explanation and are simply documenting what people are discussing on the internet. With no suspect in custody and conflicting reports about weapons found at the scene, the hosts walk through social media posts, eyewitness accounts, and breaking news updates while urging caution against rushing to judgment. The conversation reveals how quickly conspiracy theories spread when information is scarce and tensions are high.
A Call for Caution Amid Speculation
The internet is filled with theories about the assassination of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University, but the hosts make clear from the outset that they do not endorse any of these theories. They acknowledge the human impulse to react emotionally—one host admits to tweeting in rage initially—but stress that after reflection, they realized how irresponsible it can be to claim knowledge they don't actually have.
The hosts emphasize that without knowing who is behind the shooting, why it happened, or what it expresses, it's impossible to draw firm conclusions. They raise the possibility that the assassination could be the work of an external actor using the event to further divide the United States, rather than something originating from within American political factions.
The Political Nature of the Assassination
The Governor of Utah stated flatly that this was a political assassination, and the hosts agree this seems obvious. They note it's hard to imagine Charlie Kirk being targeted for non-political reasons. As one host points out, outside of politics, Kirk appeared to be a completely upstanding father and husband with no personal controversies. There's no suggestion he owed anyone money or had any personal conflicts that would make him a target.
The hosts identify two primary possibilities: either the shooter was a political enemy who hated Kirk's views on abortion, his Republican positions, or his MAGA alignment; or the assassination was orchestrated by actors outside America as a calculated agent provocateur move—a kind of three-dimensional chess play designed to destabilize the country.
Theory One: The Transgender Activist Connection
The first theory centers on a transgender individual who posted on Twitter the day before Kirk's appearance at Utah Valley University. The post from a user named Omar stated: "Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow. I really hope someone evaporates him. Literally, let's just say something big will happen tomorrow."
The hosts note this wouldn't be the first time a transgender individual has been involved in a shooting or act of violence, referring to them as "trifers" (a term used by Andy Ngo). They acknowledge that Charlie Kirk, being a Christian man with biblical views on gender, held traditional conservative positions that particularly angered the transgender community. His persuasive and influential arguments against transgender ideology made him a special target of hatred in that community.
However, the hosts express skepticism about whether this particular individual actually carried out the assassination. They suggest the social media post might have been an attempt to cause a scene online or call in a fake threat to get Kirk's event canceled—something the left does frequently. One host questions whether this person looks like they have a plan or the capability to execute a professional assassination and then escape all authorities.
Theory Two: The Boomer Radical
An older man was initially detained at the scene and released by authorities. The New York Times confirmed it was not him. However, this individual did something extremely bizarre while in police custody: he repeatedly yelled "Shoot me!" at officers.
The hosts find this behavior very strange and struggle to explain it. They float the possibility that he was trying to create a distraction so the real shooter could escape, though they admit this is pure speculation. The mystery of why this man behaved this way remains unexplained.
Theory Three: The Mystery Sniper on the Roof
Video footage shows an individual on a rooftop at a distance of approximately 450 feet from where Kirk was shot. People at the scene were seen pointing toward the roof, and footage appears to show someone running across it.
Adding to this theory, online sleuths noted that a private jet left the local airport within an hour of the shooting. Strangely, after 30 minutes in the air, the plane dropped off radar for about an hour—something that is illegal and extremely dangerous, as it makes the aircraft invisible to other planes and air traffic control.
The hosts discuss whether this would have been enough time for the plane to land at a nearby runway, offload a passenger, and take off again. One host expresses skepticism about this theory, noting that using a private jet seems like a high-profile way to move around compared to simply using a rental car. They also point out that air traffic was not shut down during this time, making the escape theoretically possible.
Eyewitness Account of Multiple Conspirators
An eyewitness at the event provided testimony suggesting that multiple people were working together. This individual had just finished talking to Charlie Kirk—only 10 to 20 seconds before the shooting—and saw Kirk shot in the neck, blood squirting everywhere.
The witness found it particularly strange that seconds before the shooting, another guest had been talking to Kirk about asking a question regarding transgenderism. Then immediately after Kirk was shot, someone with no weapon confessed to the shooting, which made the witness believe "it was clearly a setup and that multiple people were involved."
The hosts acknowledge this testimony but caution that it might simply be someone panicking in the moment who doesn't know what's happening. Still, they present it as one of the theories circulating online.
Theory Four: The Israel Connection
The most controversial theory circulating online suggests that Israel was behind the assassination. The hosts are careful to emphasize they are simply reporting what people are saying, not endorsing this view.
The theory begins with the fact that Charlie Kirk was a longstanding, vocal supporter of Israel, representing a stripe of evangelical Christianity that strongly backs the Jewish state. However, about six months before his death, Kirk began to shift his views.
In January, Kirk asserted that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent and said the Epstein files should all be released. He also began questioning the official narrative of the October 7th massacre on Patrick Bet-David's podcast. In one notable clip, Kirk discussed how Israel is essentially a fortress with surveillance everywhere and IDF soldiers every 10 feet, making it hard to believe that Hamas could have penetrated Israeli defenses without some kind of stand-down order. He pointed out that Netanyahu had been facing massive protests and was on the brink of being removed from power, but after October 7th, "all that's gone" and Netanyahu suddenly had an emergency government and a mandate to lead.
Kirk also appeared on Megyn Kelly's podcast about a month before his death, expressing frustration that he couldn't raise any criticisms of Israel without being deemed an anti-Semite—something he took very personally since he was not anti-Semitic.
In one of his most recent statements, Kirk criticized Jewish donors, saying they have "a lot of explaining to do" because they've been "the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border neoliberal quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits." He stated: "This is a beast created by secular Jews. And now it's coming for Jews, and they're like, 'What on earth happened?'" One host notes that this criticism sounds similar to arguments made by Nick Fuentes.
Perhaps most significantly, Infowars host Harrison Smith posted on August 13th—a month before Kirk's death—that someone close to Kirk told him that "Charlie thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against them." Smith later clarified that his source was secondhand information that came up during a conversation about right-wing Zionist influencers.
Jackson Hinkle, an anti-Israel activist, laid out the conspiracy theory in full, noting that Kirk "used to be an Israel loyalist, feared Israel would kill him, started mildly criticizing Israel, said Epstein was Mossad, let anti-Zionists speak at his events." Hinkle also pointed out that Netanyahu tweeted about Kirk's death within minutes—even before President Trump did—and that Jewish newspapers immediately started posting articles about Kirk that portrayed him as an anti-Semite.
The hosts acknowledge they can see why this conspiracy theory is gaining traction online, given all these breadcrumbs, but they do not endorse it. They simply note it's important to be aware that this is a popular theory being discussed.
Breaking News: Weapon and Evidence Found
While recording, the hosts receive breaking news from Steven Crowder, who obtained what appears to be an internal law enforcement email. According to this document, ATF and other law enforcement located an older model imported Mauser 30-06 caliber bolt-action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near campus. The location matched the suspect's apparent route of travel.
Significantly, the spent cartridge was still chambered in the rifle, along with three unspent rounds in a top-fed magazine. All cartridges had engraved wording on them expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
The hosts immediately recognize that this finding doesn't necessarily confirm anything. As they point out, just because someone inscribes something on bullets doesn't mean they actually hold those beliefs. It could be a transgender shooter who wanted to be identified, or it could be misdirection from someone trying to frame the transgender community. One host notes that if you were an outside agent provocateur who shot AOC, you'd carve a swastika on the bullets or write "MAGA" to direct suspicion elsewhere.
The firearm has been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions, and an emergency trace has been submitted. Multiple people of interest have been contacted or detained based on witness testimony and video footage review, but no arrests have been announced.
The Bottom Line
The hosts conclude by reiterating that until law enforcement actually catches the person responsible and finds concrete evidence about their actual intention and motive, nobody really knows what happened. They've presented the major theories circulating online—transgender activist, mystery professional sniper, and Israeli intelligence operation—along with the breaking news about evidence found at the scene, but they refuse to endorse any particular explanation. The situation remains fluid, confusing, and deeply troubling, with Americans across the political spectrum desperately seeking answers about why Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
Video Transcript
because of the lack of
uh suspect. The internet is rife with
theories about why this has happened and
we're going to talk about them. And I
want to be very very clear that I do not
endorse any of these theories. I don't
know what has happened here. And I think
that anyone who says that they do know
is someone who is claiming a level of
knowledge that they don't actually have.
And also, I think it can be quite
irresponsible. Now, when this first
happened, I was tweeting enraged like
everyone else
because I'm only human as everyone else
is. But after sleeping on it and waking
up this morning, I realized that
actually we don't know who's behind
this. We don't know why this has been
done. And we don't know what this is an
expression of. And it could well be that
it's not something that comes from
within the United States.
uh it could be something external that
is using this political assassination
which is clearly what this is as a way
of further riing up division in the
United States and I don't want to be
accused of uh doing that myself because
I actually think that might be a very
bad thing. Um so just to be very very
clear I'm not saying this is the left. I
may have tweeted that and I should
probably go back and delete those
tweets. Um, but on reflection after
calming down, I actually do agree with
those more level heads who said, "Well,
we don't know who this this was." And
that's a good point cuz I mean, I was
tweeting when it was the boomer who was
arrested. It was like, "Right, he's a
Boomer Democrat." Okay, then there we
go. We've we've got our shooter and we
know why he did it. Uh, but if it's not
him, then that actually does change the
fact. Um, so anyway, the uh governor of
Utah uh said just flat out, "This is a
political assassination." Uh, and there
seems to be that there's no doubt about
that. It's hard to imagine that there
could be a person who would want to
shoot Charlie Kirk for reasons that were
non-political.
>> There are no reasons.
>> No, he was an express exactly. I mean,
for like if if you were going to speak
about him as a man outside of politics,
he seems to have been a completely uh
cut and dried upstanding father and
husband.
>> There's there's no way that Charlie Kirk
owed somebody money, slept with
somebody's wife. Yeah, it's he is a good
and well he was a good and decent man
>> and he was reasonable. Um
>> he he was killed because somebody
somewhere was making some sort of
political point. Yes,
>> it is obviously going to be somehow
political. So I I concur with uh
Governor Cox there.
>> Just quickly build on that. There's kind
of only two reasons. One, they're just a
straight up political enemy of uh
Charlie Kirk. like hated his views on
whatever abortion or whatever, you know,
or just his right-leaning views, his
Republican MAGA views. Or the other
possibility is, as you say, something
almost entirely outside of America and
it's an
calculated agent provocator 3D chess
type play somewhere somehow. They're the
only two real.
>> It's one of those two things surely.
>> I I would assume so. I would assume so.
But until we have some information on
who the shooter was, it's really hard to
say. So the
excuse me, like I said, what I'm going
to do is just document the theories that
are currently going around at the time
without co-signing or endorsing any of
them. So the first one was um the trans
theory. So this was posted on Twitter uh
the day before Charlie went to Utah
Valley University. Uh, as you can see,
Omar here says, "Charlie Kirk is coming
to my college tomorrow. I really hope
someone evaporates him." Literally,
let's just say something big will happen
tomorrow. And apparently the person who
runs this camp is this person. Um,
>> and this
>> this is exactly what was in my head.
>> Yeah.
>> At the early stages.
>> Yeah. This this wouldn't be the first
sort of trifer, as Andy know calls them,
terror, or school shooting or attempted
assassination or anything like that. So,
this seems like a plausible
>> potential uh suspect, but you have to
ask yourself, well, is it likely that
they were just trying to cause a scene
on the internet?
>> Because a lot of people, cuz if they can
make it seem like there's a terror
threat that's being called in, then the
event would be cancelled, Charlie
wouldn't go to his university, and then
life would continue on as normal, right?
So, calling him fake threats is
something that the left does all the
time. I've been at events where they've
called in fake bomb threats and things
like that. Nothing happened, obviously.
And uh does this person look like they
have a plan? I'm not sure they look like
they have a plan. Um not sure that
they're going to be able to escape all
authorities and flee the scene and never
be caught.
>> Well, I mean may maybe when she was
still a boy, his dad took him hunting. I
don't know.
>> Yeah. I mean,
>> one thing I'll say is I would be I tend
to agree with you,
>> but you never know
what people look like uh doesn't re
betray what they're actually capable of.
>> Completely true.
>> It can.
>> It can.
>> It can, but not always. But not always.
>> But you are completely right. So, this
is one theory is that is a a radical
transgender person. And that has
plausibility because of course Charlie
Kirk being a Christian man has a very
biblical view on what a man and a woman
is. Has a traditional conservative view
on whether men and women
>> well well the trans are notching up a
number of stu shootings lately.
>> They are and they they particularly hate
Charlie Kirk because he is persuasive or
was sorry I have to use past tense. uh
he was persuasive and influential in
arguing against their ideology and so
they nurtured a particular hatred for
him in his commu in their community and
they still do and we'll go through some
of that in a minute I'm sure. Um so
that's that's one potential uh theory
that is currently doing the rounds on
the internet. The other one was the
boomer radical which uh was
um dismissed by the authorities. Um but
still I see people saying it. So I mean
it's worth just pointing out that this
guy was released. So there's no reason
to think that it was him. Uh as the New
York Times has confirmed it's not the
guy. Although he did do something really
weird which was yelling shoot me when he
was in police custody. I think we'll
watch it.
>> Shoot me.
We don't know if it's him or not.
>> Why was he yelling, "Shoot me?"
>> I've not seen that clip before. That is
odd.
>> That's really, really weird, isn't it?
And so, just why would he?
>> It's like he's going out of his way to
cause a distraction,
>> right?
>> Sure. So, the real shooter can make his
escape, you mean?
>> I I I don't know why. purely for his own
ego or
>> don't know why he's
>> Yeah. Well, we don't know, do we? Yeah.
Right. Right. We don't know.
>> But it's very bizarre indeed.
>> It's just really peculiar. Um, and like
like I said, I haven't got any
explanations for any of this. So, the
next one was the the mystery sniper on
the roof theory, which again is just a
theory. Like, we don't know that this
guy did this.
>> Right.
>> Yeah. You think he'd already be in
place?
>> There you go. You can see him at the top
there. um as you showed earlier and then
like you saw him running on the roof and
uh people pointing out this this is
quite a quite a distance four and a half
uh uh four 450 ft. So it's not terrible
but like like we've said we've been over
this so I'll carry on. Um, but then you
had people pointing out that there was a
uh private jet that left within the hour
from the local airport and that after 30
minutes it dropped off of the radar. So
it turns its own tracking radar off
>> for about an hour.
>> Didn't think you was allowed to do that
under any circumstances?
>> No, that's illegal. Yeah,
>> because of course that makes you blind
to all of the planes in the sky.
>> Crazy dangerous, you think?
>> Yeah, it's insanely dangerous. Would
that be enough time to land at a nearby
uh runway and offload a passenger and
then take off again? Probably.
>> This one feels less credible to me
because it's such a highprofile way of
moving around as opposed to just a
rental car, for example.
>> Sure. Um like I said, I don't know, but
this is the theory that's going around
on the internet that this was the plane
that got him out. And uh yeah, you you
mentioned um Oh, yeah. The the air
traffic wasn't shut down during this
time, by the way. Uh so it's plausible
that it could have been on there. It's
possible. Um and then like you say the
uh the chap jumping up which we saw
which was very strange. Um
what's that? Uh jumping up. Very very
strange. And then you have
>> actually I don't think that one is
strange. I think that's just leftists
being leftists.
>> It it could be. It could be. But I mean,
I got to be this my segment, but
>> the leftist reaction to this. It's it's
it's not how we would react to some to a
a milktoast leftist commentator getting
shot. Their reaction is is genuinely
different.
>> Yeah. But I always feel that these
people are physical cowards. So, I would
have thought he'd be at least worried
about his own skin.
Um, but then you have uh this chap who's
an eyewitness to the event, and he felt
that it wasn't just one person acting
alone, but several people working
together. What's this?
>> After I got done uh talking to him, I
really couldn't exit because there's
such a big crowd. Uh and I so I turned
around and like 10 to 20 seconds later
after uh I got done talking to Charlie,
he was I saw that he was shot in the
neck and that he was squirting blood
everywhere. But I I was piecing things
together and it was really weird because
the second guest that I talked to when
before I went and asked him the question
what I what I was going to ask him, he
was talking to him about how he was
going to ask about transgenderism or
something like that, but not and nothing
about shootings. And this is the irony
that came to me, which was like right
when he asked that, not like 5 10
seconds later, he was shot. And not not
only that, right after that, someone
confessed to it who had no weapon, which
makes me think that it was clearly a
setup and that multiple people were
involved.
>> So, but prior to that, that's all I saw
because everyone was squirming.
>> So, again, whether there's any truth to
this, whether this is just someone who's
panicking in the moment and doesn't know
what is happening, um, who knows, right?
Again, just presenting what is going
around so you're at least aware of it.
Um, and so the next thing is the theory
that Israel did it. Now,
this is something that people on the
internet are saying. Don't look at me
like that. I'm not saying this is the
case.
>> Sorry.
Um,
I am not going to pass judgment. I'm
just going to tell you what people are
saying. So the um the theory begins with
um Charlie has been a longstanding
supporter of Israel and this is
obviously very publicly and well known
uh and for a long time he was very much
their guy very much. There's a type
there's a stripe of Christianity which
is
>> yeah evangelical
>> truly biblical right where um
>> but was shifting yes that's the issue so
about 6 months ago beginning of the year
that sort of time um
>> Charlie
started making some connections for
example in this clip from January uh he
asserted that Jeffrey Epstein was a
Mossad agent uh and then carrying on he
thought the Epstein files should all be
released. And then he started casting
aspersions on Pat
Patrick met David's podcast um about the
nature of the October 7th massacre. Um
in fact, we'll watch this clip because
it's it's quite strong, frankly. So,
I've been to Israel many times. The
whole country is a fortress. When I
first heard this story, I still had the
same gut instinct that I did initially.
I find this very hard to believe. I've
been to that Gaza border. you you cannot
go 10 feet without running into a
19-year-old with an AR-15 or an
automatic machine gun that is an IDF
soldier, right? The whole country is
surveiled. And so so let me let me just
kind of go through this. We don't talk
about Israeli politics very often, and
most Americans don't know this. The last
nine months, Israel is on the brink of
civil war. It's not an exaggeration.
This judicial stuff, there were there
were hundreds of thousands of Israelis
taking to the streets because BB
Netanyahu is basically redefining the
Israeli constitution. That's not an
exaggeration, right? He said the
judicial branch has too much power.
There were protests planned this week
against Netanyahu where they anticipated
tens of thousands of people to take to
the streets. That's all gone, Patrick.
Netanyahu now has an that's all gone,
Patrick. Netanyahu now has an emergency
government and a mandate to lead. I'm
not I'm not willing to say to go so far
that saying that Netanyahu knew or there
was intelligence here, but I think some
questions need to be asked. Was there a
standown order?
>> Was there a standown order?
>> You know what I mean? That's that's
that's pretty
that's pretty hard uh for someone who
otherwise is a huge supporter of Israel
to begin
>> that is somebody shifting their opinion
quite strongly.
>> Yeah. And then you have um this from a
month ago which again is is very um
critical uh where he's on I won't
>> you and I are both uh he's on Megan
Kelly's podcast and he's saying that he
can't raise any criticisms of Israel
without being deemed an anti-semite
which he takes very very personally
because of course he wasn't an
anti-semite. Uh and then you had uh this
is one of his most recent ones.
And Jewish donors, they have a lot of
explaining to do, a lot of decoupling to
do because Jewish donors have been the
number one funding mechanism of radical
opener neoliberal quasi Marxist
policies,
cultural institutions, and nonprofits.
This is a beast created by secular Jews.
And now it's coming for Jews. and
they're like, "What on earth happened?"
And it's not just the colleges, it's the
nonprofits, it's the movies, it's
Hollywood, it's all of it. It's like,
"Time for you guys to wake up and say no
more. Draw a line in the sand. I don't
care if you hate me. I
>> I mean, that's that's
>> that's a pretty radical change from
>> from if you go back say five years when
Charlie Kirk is, you know, Israel number
one, that's that's a very hardline
criticism." So I I know we're just
reporting, you know, we're not taking
any value judgments here. We're just
reporting the things that we're talking
about. I mean, this this if this was a
foreign intel op. It's a true stepping
on the rake moment. So
>> sure,
>> but the the point is you can see that
his opinion is shifting. Honestly, this
sounds kind of Fuentes-ish.
>> Yes,
>> I thought that I thought those could be
Fuentes words.
>> Exactly. And you know, you can see how
his thinking on the subject has changed.
And this is what people are of course uh
clipping all these bits out to show is
that Charlie actually has been thinking
about this subject a lot. Um and then
you have other ones. I'm not going to
play this one. It's a bit more
anti-semitic. Um but then then you get
this from Harrison Smith. Harrison Smith
is an Infowars host. Uh but he says,
"I'm not going to name names, but I was
told by someone close to Charlie Kirk
that Charlie thinks Israel will kill
him. He turns against them." Now, this
was from August the 13th.
>> So, this was a month ago that he had
posted this. And
you can see why the conspiracy theory
against Israel is gaining steam now
because if you've got these kind of
breadcrumbs that are being put together,
then you you get this kind of opinion.
And Harrison came out and say, "Yeah, I
posted this a month ago. My source was
secondhand. It came up during a
conversation about right-wing Zionist
influencers." Yeah, I mean we I we not
giving an opinion here, but I you can
totally see why lots of people are going
down this down this route. Th
>> this is this is a popular conspiracy
theory online whether you agree with it
or not. So, it's important to be aware
of it. Uh Jackson Hingle, uh one of the
most outspoken anti-Israel activists,
just anti- everything activist really.
Most third worldest you've ever seen.
Frankly, he's a lunatic. the he he lays
out the conspiracy theory in its
entirety here. He says, "Used to be an
Israel loyalist, feared Israel would
kill him. Started mildly criticizing
Israel. Said Epstein was Mossad, let
anti-Zionist speak at his events.
Zionist media starts attacking him.
Someone shot his jugular 200 jars away.
Netanyahu tweets within minutes. Pancy
gets arrested. Next guilty. Assassin
escapes without a trace. Netanyahu
tweets along a message. And that's why
they think that this is a conspiracy."
And I mean Netanyahu did tweet very,
very quickly afterwards. So before Trump
did. Um and then you have uh Jewish um
newspapers and media outlets uh posting
about Charlie Kirk but also posting that
he's an anti-semite basically. Um as you
can see here Charlie Kirk if if he's an
anti-semite.
>> Yeah. Charlie Kirk conservative activist
who considered himself a defender of
Jews in Isra is Israel dead at 31. the
conservative activists killed in Utah at
times faced allegations of anti-semitism
from across the political spectrum which
is kind of a strange way to frame it. Um
>> so I you know this I guess maybe or
maybe not probably not we'll learn more
about this angle. I should point out
there's been a there's been a bit of
breaking news on this one while we've
been on air. Um Samson I said I put it
in the studio one link and and Carlo
sent it to you but
>> I haven't got discord on
>> we've got information from Steven
Crowder.
um and he's citing an email which
appears to be an internal message and it
would appear that they found the um the
rifle.
So yeah, in this is in the studio one
chat um Samson. But what he what he's
saying here is
>> um it's already been deleted. Dan, look
>> seriously.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, Sam and it said it's not there
anymore.
>> Oh. Oh, is that it?
>> Must have reost. There you go.
>> Here we go.
>> Sorry.
>> So, basically, he's saying that the
>> I'm just going to read it quickly. Um,
the email included a screenshot from
what appears to be an internal message
describing weapon and cartridge located
by an ATF and other law enforcement near
the scene of Charlie Kirk shooting at
Utah Valley State University. On
September the 10th, approximately 2:24
p.m., conservative political information
shot. Um, SC down. The suspect fired one
shot from an elevated position on the
rooftop in an adjacent building on the
campus and surveillance video shows the
suspect jumping off and fleeing the area
on foot. ATF and other law enforcement
located an older model imported
Mouser30-6
caliber boltaction rifle. That seems a
bit niche.
Like you think it was like an AR-15 or
something, right?
Well, you got a bolt action for one good
single shot over distance.
>> Um, wrapped in a towel in a wooded area
near the campus. The location of the
firearm appears to match the suspect's
route of travel. The spent cartridge was
still chambered in addition to three
unspent rounds at Topfed magazine. All
cartridges have engraved wording on them
expressing transgender and anti-fascist
ideology. An emergency trace has been
submitted. An ATF SLC is working leads
during by Trace. The firearm and
ammunition have been taken by the FBI
for DNA analysis and fingerprint
impressions. Upon completion of
forensics, the firearm will be
dissembled for additional importer
information. Multiple people of interest
have been contacted or detained because
Mike went to testimony and review of the
video footage. Right. Okay. Well, so we
see how this involves. I mean, just
because you um inscribe something on the
bullets
>> doesn't mean
>> that that I mean that that just means
that whoever left it wanted people to be
looking in that direction.
>> Yes. So, was it a trans shooter who
wanted the police to find this? Because
they would have found it obviously
>> who wanted them to immediately go,
"Yeah, this this was a this was a trans
shooter." Or is this misdirection as
well? I don't know.
>> If you're an outside agent provocator
and you want you shot AOC, you carve a
swastiker on the or you know, you put
>> Yeah. Or or 47 or something.
>> Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Exactly. You know,
you you know, so this doesn't confirm or
deny anything. But the the the point
being again, these are just the theories
that are out there. I don't know until
they actually catch the person and
actually find some evidence about what
their actual intention and motive was.
We don't know, unfortunately. But um
right, we'll leave that one there.
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